Comments on: Terry Bradshaw "prays" the NFL doesn't reduce Ben Roethlisberger's suspension

By: Mr Bumpy

Mr Bumpy — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:09:48 +0000

Terry… Mr Bradshaw.
The Concept of a real Player is lost, and you know this to. There might be some that can and will hang, only can not play as you have done? In the sense of the LOVE for everything that comes with this? I know that there is a great responsability that comes to people that tend to be in the light. Maybe its there own light, as the individules that pay those salaries , and do not know any better than what they see in the light on sunday. You have Roethisberger, Vick and a few others that abuse the power that Jesus has given them. As we go, there will be more , unless others like you stand and make a diffrence as you have started. The NFL will DIE if you would stop, and may you continue. I would not want my Kids to idolize a Pit bull MONGER and a LOOSER That cant even get his own tail. Maybe the NFL is already dead……..

By: Deb

Deb — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:43:14 +0000

Froggy, you’d do well to stay on those NFC North threads where you belong. We spear frogs in my part of the country. Then we chop off their legs and fry them.

By: froggy

froggy — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:59:58 +0000

Deb,
You are the biggest putz on this site.
Please stop posting.

By: Deb

Deb — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:51:42 +0000

RebaT. …
As I’ve said many times, if you don’t like my posts, skip them. I’m not the one posting at 2:30 in the morning about breaking people’s fingers and hoping my own team goes 4-12. Everyone is very clear who have the drinking problem. You’re a sad person. I feel sorry for you.

By: CaptainMarvel

CaptainMarvel — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:44:43 +0000

Amongst all the Big Ben talk, the best quote to me was how “it’s easy for Rex Ryan to run his mouth…”. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

By: RebaT.

RebaT. — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 02:31:57 +0000

Deb,
Too bad someone doesn’t break your fingers off! You will bow to the master…. unfortunately you think you are. You are just some scum from a lowlife town that thinks they have a brain. Stop with the liquor honey, probably look it too. Daddy work a minimum wage job also?

By: I_luv_the_Clowns

I_luv_the_Clowns — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 16:32:59 +0000

Findlay’s finest should beat off on Bradshaw’s bald head in a recreation of the events that transpired that fateful night. Bradshaw’s makeup team can paint a little girl on his dome, and Rapistburger can shoot rails on it. Then they can bring back Madden to draw the trajectory on the teleprompter. Fox sports exclusive baby!

By: FrankoBollo

FrankoBollo — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 20:09:10 +0000

Look up Bradshaw’s past and see how well he treated women.
Can you say “JoJo Starbuck”? I knew you could.
What a hypocrite.

By: va4favre

va4favre — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:36:13 +0000

Is it just me, but I found this story sad. Bradshaw is partly the blame for people not taking his football legacy seriously enough.

By: Deb

Deb — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:05:06 +0000

@SeaSteel …
@frostymugobeer …
She was 20. I have several friends that age who are married. If you listened to the DA’s ENTIRE press conference rather than just reading the random quotes pulled out for the papers, the DA said investigators did not even have probable cause for an arrest. Probable cause is defined as a reasonable suspicion that a crime was committed and that Roethlisberger did it.
The medical examination showed that the accuser COULD NOT HAVE had intercourse with ANYONE in the time frame of the alleged rape. The DA closed his press conference by saying that he hoped the accuser and her friends had learned their lesson. He said Ben needs to grow up but that he was welcome back in Milledgeville. Those are not the words of a seasoned prosecutor who believes a rapist is getting off for lack of “enough” evidence to convict.
The finding of the medical exam was clear as plate glass. That’s why the DA also said he did not have a case WITH or WITHOUT the accuser’s testimony.

By: frostymugobeer

frostymugobeer — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:57:21 +0000

Ben never denied molesting the underage woman.
he said he had learned alot and planned to change his behavior etc…
and yet so many hide behind the mask that the D.A.’s office didnt feel they had “ENOUGH” evidence to convict.
don’t you guys find that odd?

By: SeaSteel

SeaSteel — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:12:12 +0000

Deb says:
September 3, 2010 10:53 AM
@RebaT. …
Thought you were dead.
VERY nice!

By: Deb

Deb — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:53:54 +0000

@RebaT. …
Thought you were dead.
Won’t be bowing. I don’t worship football players or anyone else on earth. Not Ben. Not Terry. Wouldn’t curtsy for the Queen, either.

By: Deb

Deb — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:49:43 +0000

@kaisersoze … No problem–appreciate the apology. Quick background: I’m a writer/editor w/years of experience covering medical/legal issues and dealing w/rape victims. Have read all police reports, etc., researched DNA testing, and watched the DA’s full statement multiple times. A lot of the misunderstanding stems from reporting. Networks cut off the DA’s press conference after 15 minutes, papers quoted him out of context, medical findings weren’t fully reported. Accuser statements got a lot of press play, but not the refuting statements.
Med exam found some vaginal bruising and a small bleeding scratch. Bruising is consistent w/ assault but also w/consensual intercourse, hand sex, masturbation. Scratch could have come from wiping herself. Semen is thick fluid men ejaculate; DNA is genetic substance found in semen plus hair, saliva, sweat, etc. A man cannot have intercourse w/out leaving semen or pubic hair. Condoms leave some seminal fluid, pubic hair, and lubricant. Exam found NO pubic hair, semen, lubricant, sweat, saliva. Two swabs found minute traces of DNA–not semen. PCR testing can amplify pindrop samples for identity match, but these traces were too infintessimal and degraded for ID testing implying they were left earlier–as if she’d had sex earlier in the day then showered. A reporter asked if she’d had sex with anyone else; DA said he couldn’t violate her privacy by commenting.
DA told reporters he didn’t even have probable cause–a reasonable suspicion a crime had taken place and Ben committed it. He said this was an alcohol-fueled situation and he hoped the accuser and her sorority sisters had learned their lesson. Asked if Ben was welcome back in Milledgeville, he laughed and said, “Sure, if he behaves” or something to that effect. Those aren’t the words of a seasoned prosecutor who thinks a rapist is getting away.
Facts you got wrong:
* We’re not saying the DTF pin was permission to rape. We’re saying a) she was desperately trying to bag this guy and didn’t say no to anything; and b) she didn’t even have intercourse.
* The DA makes clear no crime was committed. He specifically said he had no case with or without her testimony. And she was buying her own shots most of the night.
* Yes, the NFL is a business. But if Roethlisberger being accused of rape hurt the brand, why hasn’t it hurt the brand that Eric Foster, Eric Green, and Brandon Underwood have been accused of rape this year? Why hasn’t it hurt the brand that Vince Young assaulted someone? Why didn’t it hurt the brand when Ray Lewis was charged with murder? Why doesn’t it hurt the brand when the NFL does business with slimy agents who bribe college kids? Goodell talks a good game with all this stainless shield stuff, but it’s all talk.
I have no problem with Roethlisberger getting suspended because of his recklessness and stupidity in putting himself in this position. My problem is with Goodell’s hypocrisy and the egregious length of the suspension. It should have been 4-2, not 6-4.

By: Strick

Strick — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:43:25 +0000

On Kendall Langford’s missing earring: “I hope they never find it — $50,000? Go tell that to somebody that can’t pay for his kid’s education or can’t get them into a hospital room and get them treated properly.”
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I love that man…

By: Bdrunk

Bdrunk — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:48:50 +0000

Terry’s fan club grew a bunch today! Good for him, he seems nice. Of course he partied hard in the seventies. If I was old enough to party then I would’ve too!
Unfortunately, The Bomber’s opinion on The Ben is about as relevant as The Chin’s.

By: Jaxeagle

Jaxeagle — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:38:49 +0000

nice kaisersoze not enough people take the time to apologize. But Kaisersoze would actually murder you for being sensitive.

By: bags

bags — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:21:40 +0000

The whole NFL is a big whiny farce. Letting those 2 jerks in Cincinnati play & under “their” conditions–really, 80? how bout assosphincto? It’s a thug mentality and Brad is just telling it like it is–good for him. He may not be the brightest bulb but he’s got 4 rings, now doesn’t he?

By: kaisersoze

kaisersoze — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 01:03:01 +0000

@deb
sorry for that stupid remark; it was out of line. meant to erase it before hitting the submit button, but forgot. my apologies, its all good for people to argue and all, but that stuff is just dumb

By: RebaT.

RebaT. — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 01:00:57 +0000

All you Steeler fans, especially DEB, needs to bow to the man!! #7 IDIOT will NEVER get 5 rings.. he’ll be lucky to get 3.
I am a Steeler fan and have total respect for Terry. You people have a SHORT memory or just are plain ass stupid.
If a woman is intoxicated, is that an automatic yes? MORONS! Too bad someone didn’t puke on him.

By: RebaT.

RebaT. — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:51:33 +0000

That’s the ticket Terry! Tell it like it is! He has COUNT THEM 4 SB rings. He can say whatever he wants to. Love ya TERRY!

By: kaisersoze

kaisersoze — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:23:49 +0000

@deb
you can’t be this stupid
* Georgia could have drank a 5th of Jack Daniels before any alleged assault, and it doesn’t matter. The point is she was too drunk to be an effective witness, which was the point I was making.
* She may have done everything you intimated but the fact is, it’s IRRELEVANT. All that matters is whether or not Ben initated or continued sexual contact after she indicated she wanted him to stop. All this BS about banter, initiation, and what she did/didn’t say is simply a slimy attempt to “blame the victim”
* Your comment about the medical examination is a flat out mischaracterization of the truth. According to the PPG, male semen was found on the *victim* and she showed lacerations, bruises and bleeding in the genital area. According to the DA himself, this was neither proved nor disproved sexual assault occurred.
* Actually, what the DA said was they didn’t have enough evidence to prove Rothlisberger’s guilt beyond reasonable doubt:
Ocmulgee Judicial Circuit District Attorney Fredric D. Bright said he would not pursue charges against Mr. Roethlisberger because the allegation, made by a 20-year-old woman after a night of drinking with the quarterback, “cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.”
And I don’t have enough evidence to convince 12 jurors beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Roethlisberger would be guilty of a crime of rape.”
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10103/1049925-66.stm#ixzz0yQpwb5pl
Yes, the DA did say he didn’t think there was enough evidence to sustain probable cause, but that doesn’t necessarily exonerate Roethlisberger – for all you or I know, it could simply be due to the combination of the *victim’s* intoxication and lack of DNA evidence.
By the way, just out of curiousity, what facts did I get wrong in my initial post?

By: Deb

Deb — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:12:16 +0000

@Steve W. …
Appreciate the history lesson, though considering all the comments on this page, I don’t know why you directed it to me because I’ve said nothing about Terry’s legacy being in jeopardy. I’m well aware of his history. I have his books and the only Steelers jersey I’ve ever owned from the offensive side of the ball is a retro #12. As I said, I LOVE him as the Steelers Dynasty QB. No one will ever replace him in my eyes–and I certainly never said otherwise. But off field, he has frequently been a bombastic jerk.
And while Terry’s advice to Ben regarding use of a motorcycle helmet and being careful of his franchise image was sound, his comment about Ben’s treatment of women was ignorant given that Ben has not raped anyone. The women Ben has dated haven’t said anything negative about him; I’m not sure that is true of Terry’s ex-wives.
Beyond that, I don’t feel it’s appropriate for ANYONE connected to the Steelers organization to make ANY comment regarding Art II’s pursuit of a shorter suspension for Roethlisberger. Whatever Terry’s motive in doing so the day before the meeting, it sounds self-serving … and I find it disappointing.

By: Deb

Deb — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:38:58 +0000

@David56 … Since when does getting drunk on their own time get most people fired? If that were true, every man on PFT would be unemployed.
@Cincyboy … Thanks
@Outlaw Josey Whales … Long time, no jokes. Was starting to think you’d gone to Boot Hill.

By: Deb

Deb — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:33:34 +0000

@kaisersoze …
According to MULTIPLE uninvolved witnesses:
* Georgia was drinking heavily in several venues before joining Roethlisberger. He bought shots for the room the waitress deposited on the table. She took shots. He didn’t give them to her.
* She initiated sexual contact, following him from club to club, pinching his buttocks and trying to get his attention through other men in his party. Her wardrobe is irrelevant, but she told him in front of others that she was “Down to F**K.” The DA said they were engaged in MUTUAL sexual banter.
* The medical examination showed she did not have intercourse with ANYONE during the time frame of the alleged rape. Consent is NOT an issue when NO SEX OCCURRED.
* The DA said they did not even have probable cause–a reasonable suspicion that a crime occurred and that Ben committed it. He said Ben needs to grow up and that he hoped Georgia and her sorority sisters learned their lesson. That’s not something a seasoned prosecutor says about a rape victim when he simply doesn’t have enough evidence to move forward.
The Nevada accuser was an older woman with whom Ben had a one-night stand in a private hotel room; she said nothing about him being drunk. She texted friends the following day and said she looked forward to seeing him again. A year later, she sued him for $3 million alleging rape. Her texts already have been submitted to the court.
And I have defended Ray Lewis (Ravens), Michael Irvin (Cowboys), Sean Payton (Saints), and other players being unfairly tried in the court of public opinion.
BS would be the term for idiots who call out people without bothering to check the facts.

By: Outlaw Jersey Whales

Outlaw Jersey Whales — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:59:50 +0000

Bradshaw is just a tad miffed!
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(4Mar10, 0100 hrs, The Capital City Club VIP room mopcloset, Milledgeville, Georgia.)
(Terry Bradshaw) “C’mon, Ben! Just a ‘lil sloppy seconds? C’mon, buddy! I’ll put in a good word for ‘ya again on the pre-game show this Sunday!”
(Ben Roethlisberger) Sorry, old man! The Fire Marshal sign on the wall in here reads that this mopcloset only holds a hulking drunken pervert and a coed!”
(Victim) “Mmmph! MMMPH!”

By: kaisersoze

kaisersoze — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:58:19 +0000

The people ‘defending’ Ben have been getting away with too much in this thread, so it’s time to set the record straight on a couple things.
First, whether or not the accuser was wearing a pin, or what that pin said is IRRELEVANT. She could be wearing 2 giant neon arrows pointing at her vagina and bullseye panties and it doesn’t excuse or diminish any of Ben’s actions. All that matters is whether or not Ben continued or engaged with sexual activity with the girl after she told him to stop or said it wasn’t OK.
Well he wasn’t charged so he shouldn’t be suspended, right? Wrong. The fact that BR wasn’t charged doesn’t mean he didn’t sexually assault the girl, it just means the DA didn’t have enough evidence to get a conviction. Which, in this case, could simply mean she was too drunk when the assault took place to be an effective witness at the trial. Hmmm I wonder who it was buying her shots before it happened……
Steeler fans keep getting this wrong. The DA’s decision not to prosecute does not mean there is no evidence BR is guilty, nor does it mean a crime wasn’t committed.
Also, please stop whining about player so-and-so who was arrested/charged/convicted /tested positive and got *less* of a punishment than Ben. The NFL is a business. It’s not punishing be people for breaking the law, it is disciplining its its employees for hurting the nfl brand and/or business.
If you can’t see how a *star* qb commiting/putting himself in a position to be accused of rape (not to mention the predatory circumstances or pattern of behavior) is worse for the NFL than someone entering the drug program or even some moron DT getting hit with a weapons charge, then you’re hopeless.
And one more thing – I call BS on all of you. If this was Brady, Manning, Flacco, or Brees in this situation, you people would be calling for his head. But apparently, as long as you play for the Steelers, it’s ok.

By: Flvikesfan

Flvikesfan — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:32:35 +0000

Ben get yourself a really nice dark tan and Tony Dungy will throw his support behind what a change you have made in your life.

By: bigstorm

bigstorm — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:31:24 +0000

I wear my Steelers pride on my sleeve but I even hate Bradshaw. The guy was a cancer in the dressing room and a nut job off of the field.
He was kept in check because his teams were that good and Noll kept him in line.
Obviously he is cutting the pills in half again because he is feeling better.
Easily the worst panelist on TV outside of Shannon Sharpe who sounds like Mr. Ed the talking horse. He should have the fifty extra teeth that he has removed so we can understand some of his meandering commentary.

By: FloriosHairHat

FloriosHairHat — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:19:21 +0000

Amazing how “finding Jesus” makes you forget your own past and transgressions. As I recall, TB had a problem keeping his zipper up too.