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Goodell says league "not proud" of language on Hard Knocks

With the final episode of this year’s Hard Knocks series debuting tonight, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell talked about the popular HBO series during an interview on ESPN Radio’s Mike & Mike in the Morning.

Asked specifically about the salty language from Jets players and coaches that is retained in the final product that airs during evening hours on HBO, Goodell was candid.  “Hard Knocks is designed to give our fans an inside view of what it’s like to be in a training camp,” Goodell said.  Obviously, at times you’re gonna get language that’s not appropriate for all ages, and it’s something that I guess we’re not proud of, but it is a reality of what’s happening in those camps.”

We agree with that perspective, but we’re still intrigued (and a little confused) about the inconsistency that arises when trying to reconcile the buttoned-down, No Fun League image that makes harmless touchdown celebrations a violation of the rules with the “anything goes” attitude toward the words captured by the NFL Films microphones and ultimately shared with the fans.

Frankly, we don’t mind the language.  We just wish that the same attitude that resulted in the league allowing a barrage of on-air “F” bombs would be embraced as to some of the other decisions that the NFL makes regarding far less potentially offensive behaviors that currently are prohibited. 

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  1. Zidane Valor says: Sep 8, 2010 9:06 AM

    I can’t believe how much discussion there has been over cursing on a show that airs on HBO at 10 pm.

  2. awdlmd says: Sep 8, 2010 9:10 AM

    Give me a break, these are grown men. As much as Goodell would love a boring squeaky clean league composed of 2,000 Tim Tebows, it’s not happening.

  3. AttackRaven says: Sep 8, 2010 9:11 AM

    Just the usual FARTS coming out of the Jest’s mouths. They still haven’t been able to unload their stinkin’ PSLs.
    Has Cromartie figured out his kid’s names yet?

  4. johnny1979 says: Sep 8, 2010 9:12 AM

    Is this a joke? You are going to hear F-bombs when in the locker room and in meetings. Goodell should spend more time trying to hammer out an extension to the CBA.
    This is not the priest hood , this is professional sports!

  5. Cdiggy says: Sep 8, 2010 9:14 AM

    Those “harmless” touchdown celebrations take away from the “Team” sport and makes the focus more on the individual. And it taunts the opposing team. Profanity is just that-profanity- and nothing more. Did I clear that up for you, Florio?

  6. More Cowbell says: Sep 8, 2010 9:14 AM

    Roger Goodell should worry about empty seats in 7 stadiums this year. Time to lower seat prices and lower player/coaches salaries.

  7. Fat_Old_Sun says: Sep 8, 2010 9:15 AM

    Nice stretch Florio.
    $5000 fines for swearing on the field.
    $10000 for F bomb because that’s the worst word there is.
    Im a Bengals fan and I still dont like elaborate TD celebrations.
    Stretch

  8. nagurski_T_form says: Sep 8, 2010 9:15 AM

    Rex Ryan swears too much.
    That **** will get old fast…right around week 8.

  9. howitzer819 says: Sep 8, 2010 9:17 AM

    @Zidane Valor, I agree, if you don’t want cursing put it on NBC

  10. Slim Charles says: Sep 8, 2010 9:17 AM

    Oh my god, Goodell is indescribably lame.

  11. jcjets says: Sep 8, 2010 9:17 AM

    TD celebrations are totally different. They will escalate and turn into taunting, or some kind of competition. I think most fans don’t like players celebrating (ESP when their team is down!). Nothing annoys me more than a player getting up and pumping his fist or doing a dance after making 1 tackle.
    I’m sure if there were hidden cameras and HK at the NFL Offices there’d be plenty of cursing going on.

  12. PFTiswhatitis says: Sep 8, 2010 9:18 AM

    “I guess we’re not proud of”
    What a coward. He needs to grow a spine one of these days so he can just say “it’s no big deal.” Get some conviction mr. commissioner.

  13. kravon says: Sep 8, 2010 9:18 AM

    Any parent dumb enough to watch Hard Knocks with their kids likely uses the same language around them on a daily basis.
    Its just the way it is, so shut the f### up Roger.
    Kravon
    PFT Charter Member

  14. NYMets says: Sep 8, 2010 9:18 AM

    I don’t like the language either and it’s my team. I was turned off immediately on the first show with Ryan and the F word. But then when the Jets win the whole thing this season all will be forgotten and forgiven.

  15. Belichick for President says: Sep 8, 2010 9:23 AM

    The league needs to get over themselves. People WANT to see Chad Ocho Cinco do goofy celebrations after TD’s. We WANT to know these guys are having as much fun playing as we are watching. The only people up in arms about stuff like that are tired old sportswriters thinking the league needs to live up to some mythical code that was never really there in the first place.

  16. yem123 says: Sep 8, 2010 9:25 AM

    Making something out of nothing here Florio. I heard the interview…. you’re not representing it well.

  17. dlmcc0909 says: Sep 8, 2010 9:25 AM

    This show airs on HBO, not NBC. This is the way alot of grown people talk, including most of us. Theres nothing wrong with it. Certain places obviously are not appropriate for that language. I wouldnt do it in front of my boss in a meeting at the office. Their office is a football field. Its alot different. I know Tony Dungy makes a big deal out of it, but theres a reason why 99% of us think Tony Dungy is a joke anyway.

  18. WhoDeySood5 says: Sep 8, 2010 9:27 AM

    for once I agree with you Florio….i can’t believe i just typed that.
    It’s completely hypocritical for Goodell to be so calm and passive about how the language on Hard Knocks portrays/reflects the image of the Shield and then he goes nuts on uniform violations and celebrations…..i know he tries to do whats best for the game, but I honestly think he just doesn’t get it….not in the eyes of a fan anyways.

  19. The Real Shuxion says: Sep 8, 2010 9:27 AM

    “Goodell says league “not proud” of language on Hard Knocks”
    However Goodell is mighty proud of the bromances in the locker rooms. Dungy was not available to comment and is believed to be packing a few hundred bibles for his journey to Hofstra.

  20. salmen76 says: Sep 8, 2010 9:29 AM

    Goodell is a big wus. And he is ruining the NFL. He’s so dumb he couldn’t pour piss out of a boot with the instructions written on the bottom of the heal…! I say get rid of him and Tim Tebow and the league would be in much better shape.

  21. promichael says: Sep 8, 2010 9:30 AM

    So, this means that Goodell will be suspending Rex Ryan for behavior detrimental to the NFL? Behavior detrimental to the brand name? Roger really should be consistant and not stretch the language as to what is detrimental to the league. Roger will have to now change the NFL culture. Good luck Mr. Goodell.

  22. Jeff says: Sep 8, 2010 9:30 AM

    Hah, well as should come to no suprise to anyone who has experienced the locker room, on field action during practice/games, there is more than just F bombs flying out of players/coaches mouthes on a daily basis. Goddell is just playing bad cop as he has nothing to lose by going against the profanity via the episodes. HBO has the majority of choice what to showcase and its on a premium channel, after the kiddies go to sleep.
    HBO and Steve Sabol win the emmy for a reason so often, the language is a product of the environment and these guys are not talking about redecorating there living rooms over tea. Its 200-350 lb fast, strong, mean dudes trying to beat each other up on a daily basis.

  23. Slim Charles says: Sep 8, 2010 9:30 AM

    Belichick for President speaks the truth, even if I don’t support his choice of candidate.
    Seriously, these people were the ones that thought the forward pass was too flashy and the zone blitz was unfair trickery.

  24. Jackson says: Sep 8, 2010 9:32 AM

    to all the women on this board that don’t like celebrations…………..I guess you should root for your team to stop their other team so they won’t have anything to celebrate. otherwise shut up and have fun.

  25. nolaplayer says: Sep 8, 2010 9:32 AM

    Wait Florio, the comparisons are ridiculous. “Anything goes”? Anything? It is just bad words. In many countries those words are on network TV.
    Do you want to see players turn “harmless” celebrations into egotistical grand standing. Man, you must have forgotten how pathetic the NFL was around the Mark Gastineau era.
    XFL, anyone?
    No Fun League is a moniker given by the media and players who want to put themselves above the game. The NFL is lots of fun to watch when they are actually playing football and not running around with sharpies or performing contrived routines.

  26. Steeler fans are tools says: Sep 8, 2010 9:33 AM

    Ya, this is such a pressing matter. Not the inevitable lockout, inflated rookie contracts, or guys getting in trouble. Epic fail Goodell….epic fail

  27. droppingloads says: Sep 8, 2010 9:35 AM

    Yeah, because watching grown men hit each other with such violence that it leaves them vegetables later in life, that is fine. Saying bad words is is bad. WOW

  28. Playmaker's Dealer says: Sep 8, 2010 9:36 AM

    thats funny since he told Rex, he doesn’t mind in the sense he understands that’s Rex’s style and its the way he gets things done.
    in fairness to the Sheriff, he did say “i guess we’re not proud of,” which to me means, of course I don’t like it, but I know its reality.

  29. AllThat says: Sep 8, 2010 9:37 AM

    @NYMets says:
    September 8, 2010 9:18 AM
    I don’t like the language either and it’s my team. I was turned off immediately on the first show with Ryan and the F word. But then when the Jets win the whole thing this season all will be forgotten and forgiven.
    ===================================
    hahahahahaha……seriously? hahahahahaha……

  30. overkil2 says: Sep 8, 2010 9:38 AM

    “jcjets says:
    September 8, 2010 9:17 AM
    TD celebrations are totally different. They will escalate and turn into taunting, or some kind of competition. I think most fans don’t like players celebrating (ESP when their team is down!). Nothing annoys me more than a player getting up and pumping his fist or doing a dance after making 1 tackle.
    I’m sure if there were hidden cameras and HK at the NFL Offices there’d be plenty of cursing going on.

    I agree with the celebrating after a fricken tackle. What a joke. I don’t mind a little dance when someone scores a TD, but a fricken tackle, or how about a first down? lol
    What’s next? Celebrating when they gain positive yardage?

  31. bspurloc says: Sep 8, 2010 9:40 AM

    anyone that has a problem with how dudes act around dudes needs to take the tights off and shut the hell up.
    this jackass should concern himself more with why he allows dui killers back on the field and pedophiles.

  32. sacdaddy says: Sep 8, 2010 9:44 AM

    Boo hoo, it’s a pay channel and airs at 10pm. Cinemax is pushing softcore (lame) porn in the same timeslot.

  33. Chapnasty. says: Sep 8, 2010 9:54 AM

    What the hell is wrong with celebrations? Have you people ever accomplished anything of significance in your lives? The celebrations are exciting and fun for the team and if you don’t want to be taunted then stop them from scoring. It is as simple as that. What the hell is wrong with this GD PC country we live in today? Always afraid to offend someone. Stop encouraging a generation of wusses.

  34. Slim Charles says: Sep 8, 2010 9:54 AM

    Also, why isn’t Goodell complaining about Jerry Jones appearing on Entourage, a show with a lot more questionable material (it doesn’t bother me, but the show itself is lame)? Because he is the owners little butt boy.
    The people complaining about players showboating should come to terms with their racism already.

  35. Lucky5927 says: Sep 8, 2010 9:54 AM

    Well, I’m not sure the Jets (and the rest of the league) are very proud of Roger’s lack of knowledge and preparation for player questions on his “Training Camp Tour”.

  36. Jetfansince63 says: Sep 8, 2010 9:55 AM

    After the first Jet’s hard knocks, Marcellus Wiley was on ESPN RADIO in NY. He said this was the first time that hard knocks really showed what training camp was like. So to Goddell, Dungy and all the rest of you phonies, STICK IT.

  37. if yer not first... says: Sep 8, 2010 9:55 AM

    Give me a break, these are grown men. As much as Goodell would love a boring squeaky clean league composed of 2,000 Tim Tebows, it’s not happening
    So what? I work in an office of about 500 grown men can’t say as I’ve ever heard that word once during working hours – especially from management.

  38. sneaux49 says: Sep 8, 2010 10:00 AM

    Turn the channel.

  39. Thunderwhip says: Sep 8, 2010 10:03 AM

    And yet we have more insight into the communist regime that is the NFL. I can’t wait until they start flagging players on the field for cursing and then slapping them with a fine a week later. What ever happened to freedom of speech. This shouldn’t even be an issue since Hard Knocks is on a premium cable channel. Don’t like it? Don’t watch it. Stop being a bunch of whiney little turds.

  40. Boris the Baker says: Sep 8, 2010 10:04 AM

    Gosh, darn it, crikey.
    It’s a man’s sport with testosterone flowing freely, it’s not ballet.

  41. jamaltimore says: Sep 8, 2010 10:05 AM

    What’s detrimental to the league is seeing FATMAN in a hottub on tonight’s episode. His boobs are way bigger than Janet Jackson’s yet I doubt they’ll create the same controversy. Seriously Roger that scene needs to blocked out to protect the children.

  42. Percy Headachin says: Sep 8, 2010 10:05 AM

    oh please, Hard Knocks is great for the Shield

  43. Boris the Baker says: Sep 8, 2010 10:06 AM

    “So what? I work in an office of about 500 grown men can’t say as I’ve ever heard that word once during working hours – especially from management.”
    Haha – wut?

  44. BigBear123 says: Sep 8, 2010 10:10 AM

    League full of thugs, criminals and a handful of felons has bigger issues than a few f-bombs.
    TD celebrations highlight an individual and take away from the team effort.

  45. The Hogster says: Sep 8, 2010 10:12 AM

    This is just the message from The Book of Eli that Tony Dungy carried barefoot from Fort Lauderdale.

  46. TheDPR says: Sep 8, 2010 10:12 AM

    Touchdown celebrations are really really stupid.
    I don’t know that they deserve a penalty but I do know that most people who appreciate the sport for the sport think grown men should act like adults.

  47. bobinpuertorico says: Sep 8, 2010 10:14 AM

    Goodell is absolutely correct on this point. Cursing needs to be eliminated from the NFL. Players need to be better role models, in order to keep football an activity that the entire family can enjoy.
    Now that Goodell has recognized the examplary behavior of Ben Rapistberger, who has not been caught raping anyone for months, and reduced his suspension to four games, the far more serious crime of cursing needs to be addressed. Perhaps Rapistberger could be used to show the importance of good behavior. Rape, walk around in public with your johnson hanging out and then say you will try to behave, just do not curse!

  48. JetReaper says: Sep 8, 2010 10:17 AM

    1st episode of HD I turned on HBO and was greeted with what I thought was all out Porn… It was the end of that vampire show…
    It’s HBO and it’s AFTER the porn show…
    #### You Goodell.

  49. JoeSchmoe says: Sep 8, 2010 10:27 AM

    @Cdiggity
    You’re a crochety old man aren’t you?

  50. LAEaglefan says: Sep 8, 2010 10:28 AM

    The same player that pumps his fist or does a dance after making a tackle could be seriously injured on the very next play. So I say let them have their fun, as long as it doesn’t cause the game to be delayed. The same fans that hate that kind of theatrics when it happens “against” their team love it when it happens “for” their team.

  51. kingaling says: Sep 8, 2010 10:30 AM

    Amen Florio!

  52. Ytsejamer1 says: Sep 8, 2010 10:32 AM

    Colts hard-knocks:
    “Golly-gee-whillickers…you should have caught the ball…next time you’ll get it!”
    Patriots hard-knocks:
    *silence*…wait…*mouse fart*
    ————————–
    While I’m tired of hearing about the Jets and how good they are, i have to hand it to them…their show has been pretty entertaining. I think from the looks of it, training camp is like a frat house. There is going to be foul language and rightfully so…I’d be swearing up and down having to work out and play in 100 degree heat.
    I hate the fact that organization feel they have to be bland and corporate to be successful. I’m pretty sure back when RAC and Weis were with the Patriots, there was some interesting language thrown around. I’d love to see the KC hard-knocks. Those guys from the Parcells tree can be hilarious!

  53. steveoz49 says: Sep 8, 2010 10:38 AM

    the very language he isn’t proud of… is what we want.. not this “oh darn you!”… apparently where ever he played football, they were saints… i still can’t remember a coach who didn’t cuss us out… and use some language. this is nothing more than a pr stunt… apparently Tony Dungy is pulling the strings around here.

  54. SomeFans says: Sep 8, 2010 10:43 AM

    Leave it to the attention monging jests to be the trashish team yet on Hard Knocks…. no surprise there.

  55. georgeanderson says: Sep 8, 2010 10:53 AM

    The cursing must stop!!! But let’s forget about the guys who have killed other people, been thrown in jail for drug trafficking, involved in murder cases, wife abusers, gambling rings involving cruelty to animals and the list goes on and on…but the league is ashamed of some cursing which goes on in everyday life in all work environments.
    Roger, you really are the owners whipping boy. Please let us all know which hand lotion you use, so we can invest, because it must be written in your contract to give handy’s on each owner visit.

  56. irish4life says: Sep 8, 2010 11:00 AM

    This is the NFL. “Hardknocks” is supposed to show a insiders look at NFL training camps. If the commissioner doesn’t like the foul language then he shouldn’t have his league featured.
    I personally like the swearing because I know that’s how it goes down. If they took that away then the product would be watered down.
    I predict the Commissioner in the near future will fine guys for hitting other players to hard or for hurting opposing teams feelings. Next thing you know there wont be a winner or loser. That might hurt somebody’s feelings because they lost.
    The reason people watch NFL Football is becuase on Sunday afternoon the players are like gladiators and if you make the game soft you loose that zest of why fans watch it.

  57. connie says: Sep 8, 2010 11:02 AM

    Godell go sit down someplace and shut up.
    You are not the Holy Father.
    Maybe to your twin girls and Skinner.
    But you didn’t even have enough respect for them when you cut Ben from 6 games to 4.
    So don’t pretend you are offened by some big
    man who weights 300 lbs saying the F–k
    word. That is what you are a big F–ker.

  58. Hugh Jorgan says: Sep 8, 2010 11:06 AM

    SomeFans says:
    Leave it to the attention monging jests to be the trashish team yet on Hard Knocks…. no surprise there.
    ======================
    SomeFans, Koa, or whatever clever screen name you are using each day,
    You contribute nothing except allowing us someone to feel sorry for. Thanks for not disappointing us yet again.
    Do you lick the windows on the bus, or does your helmet get in the way?
    Signed,
    Every Other Miami Fan

  59. Chiefs2010 says: Sep 8, 2010 11:17 AM

    @if yer not ferst Give me a break, these are grown men. As much as Goodell would love a boring squeaky clean league composed of 2,000 Tim Tebows, it’s not happening
    So what? I work in an office of about 500 grown men can’t say as I’ve ever heard that word once during working hours – especially from management
    ____________________
    An office of about 500 grown men? Where do you work the Pentagon? Or in an 195os-era law firm?

  60. bucsrule11 says: Sep 8, 2010 11:27 AM

    He might not like it but it is what it is… the players love Rex becasue “he talks like we do” if you aren’t proud of your league then maybe YOU should leave because its the best league there is. Do you think that a baseball, basketball or hockey dressing room is any different? If you do you’re crazy! This is the way most of america speaks… Roger Goodell you are the anomaly here, not the league. Do you remember when a coach from the jets couldn’t figure out 2 yards and 12inchs = x amount of feet. These men are here to entertain us, to show off their surreal athletic ability, and to make rich men even more money.And they are doing all of those things. If they put on suit jackets and spoke like Goodell would anyone tune in? Considering I can watch political debates on tv and choose not to I think i’ll go for something that is a little more me, a little harder a little more in your face, a little more NFL. If you can’t realize what you have and who your market is then you are probably in the wrong position becasue anyone can say hey you raped that girl you’re out, oh you had a gun, you’re out, oh you killed dogs, you’re out. Grow up Goodell this is how the people talk… focus on getting a new deal done so there isn’t a lock out next year and besides that keep your mouth shut… when it comes to you and other commishioners less is more

  61. Hailskinzz says: Sep 8, 2010 11:50 AM

    If u scared go to church

  62. if yer not first... says: Sep 8, 2010 12:03 PM

    An office of about 500 grown men? Where do you work the Pentagon? Or in an 195os-era law firm?
    ha – that’s funny
    na- there’s chicks too – what I meant was the “grown men” thing was stupid – if anything grown men should be able to control their language a little better.
    Actually the problem (if there really is one and I’m not saying there is) is that most of these men are very immature.

  63. HOI says: Sep 8, 2010 12:09 PM

    Yea and I’m “not proud” he only suspended a rapist for four games.

  64. Ilovefoolsball says: Sep 8, 2010 12:46 PM

    Come on lighten up guys! It’s the J-E-T-S! We all know they’re not good for anything than some good trash talkin!

  65. Qoojo says: Sep 8, 2010 12:57 PM

    Goodell, “we’re not proud of the language…Now send out the entertainment of half naked women holding beer and erectile dysfunction ads”

  66. salmen76 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:07 PM

    The Saints will beat the girly Vikes stupid tomorrow night! Remember i said it!

  67. Viper21 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:11 PM

    language is a part of football. Smack talk is a part of the game, its a part of practice, its a part of preparation, at all levels. As a little league coach, I never use profane language to or at any of our players….. I have however, heard it from players on the field many times. As a player in Semi-Pro/Minor league football….. it’s every other play…lol. It would only make sense, the NFL is no different.
    For those that dont like it…… it really is this simple, turn the channel.

  68. Nacho says: Sep 8, 2010 1:19 PM

    Is he proud of destroying all the “spygate” evidence?

  69. 1NationRaiderNation says: Sep 8, 2010 1:26 PM

    how else are you suppose to talk a bunch of felons.

  70. steeler560 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:41 PM

    Uh oh, here it comes…GODell to suspend Rex Ryan 6 games for swearing….will be reduced to 4 games if Ryan agrees to say FUDGE instead of F@#K

  71. Jetfansince63 says: Sep 21, 2010 11:18 AM

    Florio, o so quick to criticize the Jets, hey Mike, you trying to tell me that no lawyer has ever been arrested for DUI, how about NBC employees. As far as other teams fans ripping the Jets, their talking brought this on themselves, no sympathy from me but if other team fans want to call names and criticize, fine. I don’t remember Phil Meerling, a Dolphin, being on the Jets, he uses his girlfriend as a punching bag, Rae Caruth, Panther, another non-Jet, all he did was have his girlfriend murdered, Donte Stallworth, Browns and Leonard Little, a Ram, DWI manslaughter, neither of them played for Rex either. So before you classless clowns make fun of anybody, think of the team you root for and then shut up.

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