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T.O. takes aim at Brett Favre

As you may have heard, Bengals receivers Chad Ochocinco and Terrell Owens will launch a new weekly show on Versus in October.  For now, they’ll making weekly appearances on The Daily Line, and presumably talking about all sorts of issues.

In their debut, T.O. took a shot at one of the quarterbacks that Owens used as a prop in one of his past in-house quarterback feuds:  Brett Favre.

Specifically, Owens believes that not enough has been made of Favre’s failure and/or refusal to participate in training camp in 2009 and 2010.

“Had it been one of us doing some of the same things, pulling these stunts that Brett Favre has done the last two or three years, then we would be labeled ‘not a team player,’ ‘selfish,’ and these are times where you want your guys to be in camp, bonding with your teammates, learning the plays, going through the whole team concept just like everybody else,” Owens said in video that was forwarded to PFT by our friends at CSNPhilly.com.  “And now it’s like, yeah, he’s set himself above team standards.” 

T.O. is right.  Favre has largely gotten a pass for not attending offseason workouts or training camp the last three years.  Though the Vikings bear some of the blame for allowing him to do it, the media isn’t facing the same Favre-or-Tarvaris conundrum at quarterback, and yet many in the media have adopted the same “see no evil” posture when it comes to Brett.

If it were Owens or Ochocinco who were behaving this way, the army of folks calling them out would be much louder, and much larger.    

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  1. Slow Joe says: Sep 8, 2010 12:40 PM

    Yup.

  2. GRpatriot says: Sep 8, 2010 12:42 PM

    I can’t believe I’m agreeing with TO???

  3. Evpimp says: Sep 8, 2010 12:44 PM

    Uhmm T.O. What camp did you attend this year??
    Ohh thats right nobody wanted you Focker!

  4. LuvThatDirtyWatah says: Sep 8, 2010 12:44 PM

    A more appropriate headline would be:
    T.O. makes a point…and he’s right!

  5. WhoDeySood5 says: Sep 8, 2010 12:44 PM

    Preach on- he was absolutely right, but the part where he brought race into the equation of suspensions was idiotic. The specific player and the position he plays (and for what team) has a bigger part in the suspensions than the race of sed player….thought he was better than that, i always hate seeing superstars drop the race card

  6. joetoronto says: Sep 8, 2010 12:45 PM

    Of course the difference is that Favre doesn’t shoot his mouth off, complaining about everything, 24/7 to anybody that will listen.

  7. Goetta-Head says: Sep 8, 2010 12:45 PM

    Its because hes white

  8. Soia311 says: Sep 8, 2010 12:45 PM

    So you quote T.O. talking about how if he or Chad had found excuses to skip training camp over the last 3 years, they’d get an earful.
    Then you say if he or Chad had found excuses to skip training camp over the last 3 years, they’d get an earful.
    This post is 2 paragraphs too long. We got it when Owens said it.

  9. BigMikeSkinsFan says: Sep 8, 2010 12:46 PM

    and as soon as TO gets a job with a team he goes back to running his big fat yapper.
    that dude just cant help himself. just when you think he might have turned a corner in the “being a complete idiot” category he goes and does this.
    and of course Florio has to run a Favre story no matter how lame it may be. Maybe you should get a crappy reality show on VH-1 too

  10. ACS2 says: Sep 8, 2010 12:46 PM

    “Had it been one of us doing some of the same things, pulling these stunts that Brett Favre has done the last two or three years, then we would be labeled ‘not a team player,’ ‘selfish,’ and these are times where you want your guys to be in camp, bonding with your teammates, learning the plays, going through the whole team concept just like everybody else,” Owens said, via our friends at CSNPhilly.com.
    ———-
    What the hell is Owens smoking? Hasn’t Favre been labeled “not a team player”, “selfish”, etc? I thought he has. Hasn’t he?

  11. BradyQuinnsCodPiece says: Sep 8, 2010 12:46 PM

    The difference is Brett Favre has only been annoying us for 2-3 years. TO and Ocho have been annoying us for quite a bit longer.

  12. CanadianVikingFan says: Sep 8, 2010 12:47 PM

    T.O., you are already labelled as selfish or a team player. You are a diva like Burt.

  13. thats_what_she_said says: Sep 8, 2010 12:47 PM

    So true.. and T.O has the credentials as an NFL Player to comment on the matter.. He’s and established, proven veteran who’s also paid his dues.

  14. trsean says: Sep 8, 2010 12:47 PM

    Nobody blasted Strahan for it either.
    When you’ve got a HOF career and are at the end of it, different set of rules. If you don’t like it, he can just sit home on his tractor, or you can hope he comes back and watch – while certainly not the best – but definitely the most entertaining and dramatic QB to play the game.
    TO, just because nobody was begging you to come off the couch this summer until Bryant couldn’t play, doesn’t mean you can criticize a player that was wanted.

  15. steeelfann says: Sep 8, 2010 12:47 PM

    When Ochosucko or TO can throw 33 tds and 7 ints and take their team within a whisper of the super bowl, we can talk. Otherwise, go put on your batman cape and prance.

  16. Floriohatescincy says: Sep 8, 2010 12:47 PM

    Wow!!! I actually agre with you Mike! And that goes for ANY other player in this league save for Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, except their coaching staff’s have enough balls to not let that ever happen. Cue the Viking homers making wildly moronic retorts……….Now

  17. jkmcooper says: Sep 8, 2010 12:48 PM

    You got to be kidding me. The day a team can sign TO or ocho and get to the Super Bowl just because they signed one of them then they can make stupid comments like this. The day they have the same accolades of Brett will be the day they can make comments like that, until then it just sounds like a pathetic attempt at a cry of racism and a very sad attempt for more attention to promote their tv show.

  18. jamesz23 says: Sep 8, 2010 12:48 PM

    Couldn’t agree more, for a QB who is not even one of the top 3 in the NFL – Manning, Brady & Brees all at training camp from start to finish.

  19. damnvarmint says: Sep 8, 2010 12:48 PM

    Maybe its because T.O. is a douchebag. And not like he’s some fancy still in the box douchebag, no, he is a used douchebag.

  20. chitown26 says: Sep 8, 2010 12:48 PM

    Yep.
    I for one welcome our new Chad and T.O. overlords. :D

  21. myasylum says: Sep 8, 2010 12:49 PM

    Farve is also not a known trouble maker either! (Well, other then if Crocs are involved, but who knows if that’s even true).

  22. gunzofsteel says: Sep 8, 2010 12:49 PM

    T.O. is totally right.

  23. RC IV says: Sep 8, 2010 12:50 PM

    Because of their past transgressions and history.
    It’s never their fault. TO has been a dink eveywhere he has been. Chad has created his own problems in Cincy.

  24. Sarge says: Sep 8, 2010 12:50 PM

    Oh, the ironing.

  25. dbartdog says: Sep 8, 2010 12:50 PM

    Right…not one person ever had a bad thing to say about Favre’s behavior…sheeesh, what a “moran”TO is

  26. Hailskinzz says: Sep 8, 2010 12:50 PM

    And who cares he is one of the best qbs of all time has the majority of all qb records good and bad been in the league 20 yrs longest streak going for not missing a game he is a proven winner unlike you mr Owens who causes locker room problems, oh yea and Mr Owens cried on national TV because why TO, because the media was taking shots at none other than your QB at the time Tony Homo, “that’s my quarterback” whaa whaaa no TO that WAS your QB, so I don’t want to hear anything about you complaining about Brett Favre sucka.
    I’m pumped up BABI it’s Dallas week
    Hail beatches

  27. trsean says: Sep 8, 2010 12:51 PM

    You made the bed, TO, now you get to sleep in it when you get no benefit of the doubt in the media.
    Dozens of other players could get away with missing training camp because they were considering retiring, and nobody would bat an eye. Of course, they aren’t the lightning rod that Favre is, so not as much attention is given.
    Where’s Rob Parker to come out and say it’s because Favre is white.

  28. Wizahdry says: Sep 8, 2010 12:51 PM

    T.O. is right nut the blame is with the Vikings for tolerating it. I’m sure if any other player in the league was told they can skip training camp and show up whenever they want and still get paid (hell even get a raise) they would do it.

  29. The_Mond says: Sep 8, 2010 12:51 PM

    How many records have T.O. and Chad set between the two of them? Brett has more.
    Brett is 41 years old! He is one of the best quarterbacks of all time. He doesn’t need to be in training camp. Brett has never been a distraction during the season, and when it comes down to business he is there as a great teammate.
    T.O. ruins teams. Brett elevates them to championship contenders. Shut up, T.O.

  30. TheToolofTools says: Sep 8, 2010 12:52 PM

    Hey T.O. – the difference is his teammates LOVE him and your teammates are just another stop on your burning bridges tour of the NFL.
    Shut the hell up and win something you dolt.

  31. Green n' Gold says: Sep 8, 2010 12:52 PM

    Why do you think G.B. got rid of this bum T.O.? He’s just like you, a selfish douchebag!! Give him a call and do lunch, you guys can compare notes on how many lockerrooms you’ve ruined!!

  32. 3octaveFart says: Sep 8, 2010 12:52 PM

    “we would be labeled ‘not a team player,’ ‘selfish’ ”
    hey T.O., you’re NOT a team player, and you ARE selfish…

  33. Love_Boat_Scandal says: Sep 8, 2010 12:53 PM

    T.O. speaks the truth.

  34. shinsnake says: Sep 8, 2010 12:54 PM

    My first guess as to why the discrepancy could have something to do with prior activities. If TO hadn’t called Garcia gay, threw McNabb under the bus or berated an offensive coordinator in public, then the image of him as selfish wouldn’t have been out there. Same for Chad and his trade me or else tactics. Last I checked, Favre has been a model citizen in the public eye, which, oh, I don’t know, might have something to do with the reaction to him skipping camp. If TO and 85 skipped camp and were called selfish and derided as not being team players, it could be directly attached to their boorish attitudes in the past.
    And that’s coming from a Bengals fan who likes both TO and 85 and is somewhat tired of the Favre-pra. Favre’s reputation precedes him as does TO’s and 85′s. That’s why there’s a difference.

  35. sven_ftw says: Sep 8, 2010 12:54 PM

    to’s jealous because he’s 5 years younger, and barely got a sniff in the offseason.

  36. Krashie21 says: Sep 8, 2010 12:54 PM

    T.O. is, was and always will be a cancer, but at least he has the stones to say what everyone else knows about Brett Favre (Fav-ruh?).
    T.O. is 100% accurate this time.

  37. AdamEagle5 says: Sep 8, 2010 12:54 PM

    I think the faulty assumption here is that Favre got a pass… I feel like every non-Vikings/Packers fan thinks Favre is a douche, no?

  38. DeVoodoo says: Sep 8, 2010 12:54 PM

    Does the “See no evil” concept extend to “See no Crocs and Brett’s dick in his hand?”

  39. Rick says: Sep 8, 2010 12:54 PM

    there is a big difference between TO and Chad. Chad is an entertainer who loves the game and loves his team. TO loves him some TO and has thrown teammates under the bus and has been run out of SF Philly and Dallas for good reason. He should not have Chad’s name in his mouth when making comments like this.
    That being said he is absolutely right that he would have been crucified if he did what Favre did the last two seasons.

  40. shawnc16 says: Sep 8, 2010 12:54 PM

    “Getting a pass” is something you earn. Favre has not had many big problems (at least publically) with teammates and he hasn’t been that serious of a controversial player so he earns a pass. The main controversy Favre is involved with is “If he is playing or retiring”
    T.O. causes controversy every where he goes and he normally starts it and draws attention to it. (Even if you agree with what he is saying when he does so) Therefore anything T.O. does the media will latch onto.
    You can’t constantly scream “LOOK AT ME” with your words and actions and then get mad because you feel like, if it were you, the media would pay close attention to you. It’s something you bring on yourself.

  41. Meldog says: Sep 8, 2010 12:55 PM

    As a Buffalo fan, I actually have a lot of respect for TO. He kept his mouth shut and he played ball. He did good for the team and didn’t say anything too negative about the team for not re-signing him.
    His comments about Brett are completely accurate, and Brett should be ashamed of himself for making a mockery of the QBs leadership role on a team. It’s all about Brett this year.

  42. pdizzle says: Sep 8, 2010 12:55 PM

    Yes! Florio and TO are on the same wavelength and it’s not a good one….everyone has labeled Favre as a selfish drama queen especially after his salary went up….Give C. Brody credit for his season lengthening idea it wasn’t yours thief!!!!!!!!

  43. J Dub says: Sep 8, 2010 12:55 PM

    “Of course the difference is that Favre doesn’t shoot his mouth off, complaining about everything, 24/7 to anybody that will listen.”
    joetoronto…..please reference Greta Van Sustren interview, August 2007, and every press conference Favre gave while a Jet, and the first month of his tenure with the Vikings.
    Fail…..next…..

  44. Philtration says: Sep 8, 2010 12:55 PM

    I wonder who T.O. is talking about when he says “Had it been ONE OF US doing some of the same things”
    He is right about Favre but let’s be honest when it come to double standards here.
    No one called out T.O. and McNabb when they were doing their Richard Pryor “white guy” routine on national TV during the playoffs the year they went to the Super Bowl.
    If that had been Tom Brady and Wes Welker talking like Amous & Andy they would have been torn to shreds and you know it.

  45. MLMike25 says: Sep 8, 2010 12:56 PM

    He may be right, but guys like Favre, Strahan, and anyone else who’s pulled the “I don’t want to go to camp” bit aren’t notorious for being critical, team-splitting asses like TO.
    Wherever he goes, TO points fingers, badmouths, and pouts when he’s not getting his way.

  46. Hap says: Sep 8, 2010 12:57 PM

    When you’re 40, you get a free pass. Favre didnt ask The Vikings to let him play. The Vikings asked him IF he would play for them. If you’re chapped at anyone, be chapped at the Vikes for handling it that way.

  47. bunker says: Sep 8, 2010 12:57 PM

    this is the recently-matured T.O. making these comments.
    I love me some him.

  48. MNFANINAZ says: Sep 8, 2010 12:57 PM

    Hey T.O.,
    “CHILD PLEASE”
    Sincerely,
    Brett Favre’s pimp hand

  49. No Gravy For Sconnies Eats Balls says: Sep 8, 2010 12:58 PM

    Owens and Favre = Ebony and Ivory
    Gravy eats balls.

  50. Occam says: Sep 8, 2010 12:58 PM

    Just what Florio needed. A whole new angle for Favre stories. Yikes.

  51. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Sep 8, 2010 12:58 PM

    jkmcooper says:
    September 8, 2010 12:48 PM
    You got to be kidding me. The day a team can sign TO or ocho and get to the Super Bowl just because they signed one of them then they can make stupid comments like this. The day they have the same accolades of Brett will be the day they can make comments like that, until then it just sounds like a pathetic attempt at a cry of racism and a very sad attempt for more attention to promote their tv show.
    ______________________
    Whaaa? What team went to the Superbowl just because they signed Brett Favre? The Jets? Nope… The Vikings? Nope…
    Other than that, he played for 30 years in Green Bay. He had a good supporting cast and was a very good QB for a stretch back in the mid-90s. Chances were he’d get to the Superbowl once or twice. He did manage to not completely piss down his leg in one of them, although it isn’t like he took the team on his back and carried them to victory, he just did enough not to lose the game for them and Antonio Freeman made up the difference.

  52. BrentFavre says: Sep 8, 2010 12:58 PM

    Called out by TO. that’s when you know you’re a diva.

  53. ChillyP says: Sep 8, 2010 12:59 PM

    T.O. I wouldn’t be calling people out for not being at camp when you’re lucky to have signed with a team to get into a camp. Not much talking with 31 teams passed on you and the lowly BENgals signed you because Bryant got hurt. Heck the BENgals didn’t want you and it required the petitioning of Ocho and Palmer to persuade Mgmt to sign you, instead of the other way around. Have fun in your retirement after you’re dropped from BENgals.

  54. ninjapleazee says: Sep 8, 2010 12:59 PM

    when Haynesworth does the same stunt.. he’s lazy and selfish…
    Farve = WHITE DIVA

  55. JEsTerS says: Sep 8, 2010 12:59 PM

    “If it were Owens or Ochocinco who were behaving this way, the army of folks calling them out would be much louder, and much larger. ”
    Favre has been protected all these years and if more people got on his case, he would sulk into retirement and not come back.

  56. Charles Wood says: Sep 8, 2010 1:00 PM

    It’s kind of difficult for Grandpa Favre to get up every football Sunday, let alone training camp 2 a days and whatnot. He’s old and brittle. Instead of everyone whinning about it- give the guy a break already… uh, err… maybe the other ankle? A collar bone???

  57. FoF says: Sep 8, 2010 1:00 PM

    The difference is, and it’s a huge one, is that unlike T.O. or Ocho Cinco, Favre doesn’t make a circus of things DURING the season like both of those clowns have constantly done since their arrival in the league

  58. Ruvell100 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:00 PM

    “The day a team can sign TO or ocho and get to the Super Bowl just because they signed one of them then they can make stupid comments like this.”
    —————-
    Where was I when Brett was leading all these teams to the Super Bowl? Last time I remember was the 97 season, 98 SB. I must need to get out more or something.

  59. Chitown says: Sep 8, 2010 1:01 PM

    Rings:
    Favre 1 vs. TO & Ocho 0
    Scoreboard punks now shut your pie holes and get back to dropping balls.

  60. ParkerFly says: Sep 8, 2010 1:02 PM

    You gotta remember Favre hasn’t been a tool on and off the field like T.O. and Ocho have, so naturally he gets more leeway in his will he won’t he retirement deal every year.

  61. RedsDouche says: Sep 8, 2010 1:02 PM

    I have to say, I agree with T.O. 100% here. I also have to say that no one in the Bengals organization is complaining about T.O. yet and no one in the Bills organization complained about him either. So until then, he’s welcome here in our city to help us get further into the playoffs. He won’t be here any longer than a year anyway so none of that is a concern to me. Chad and T.O. are friends so I highly doubt any trouble will be started between the two. Neither of them are trouble makers as far as the law goes. Chad likes to have fun playing football. Nothing wrong with that.

  62. Lucky5927 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:02 PM

    “Had it been one of us doing some of the same things, pulling these stunts that Brett Favre has done the last two or three years, then we would be labeled ‘not a team player,’ ‘selfish,’ and these are times where you want your guys to be in camp, bonding with your teammates, learning the plays, going through the whole team concept just like everybody else,” Owens said, via our friends at CSNPhilly.com. “And now it’s like, yeah, he’s set himself above team standards.”
    ————————————————
    Um, hasn’t he been reading the posts on here, and listened to the media across the country? They have been saying the same damn thing about Favre. But until the Vikings care do change how they handled the situation, then why should T.O. of all people care about what Favre does. As a teacher, he reminds me of that student who always does something to get caught, and then rats out his classmate for doing the same thing. T.O. brought his attention on himself all of those times. Deflecting the OBVIOUS about Favre doesn’t take away from that. Besides, if he wants to put a spin on something, then why not say that having a weekly tv show with your fellow teammate takes away from the amount of preparation he will put into his weekly gameplans.

  63. foreverfavre says: Sep 8, 2010 1:02 PM

    Brett had surgery both years. Once TO and chad start 300 games and play 19 years in the NFL then perhaps they could miss camp. Quit the Favre hating!!!!!

  64. Chuck Norris 26 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:02 PM

    What an idiot, and for those who sided with TO you belong in the idiot category as well.
    BIG difference here… While Brett probably deserves some scrutiny for his lack of training camp attendence, and other things, there is no questioning that when he steps on the field, he gives his all, and lets his play do the talking.
    T.O. and Ocho do things on the field and off the field during the season that are a distraction to the team. All Brett does is go out and compete every game, earning the respect of his teammates through the way he plays.
    No one ever questions where his head or his heart is on the field. Find me someone that can truthfully say that about T.O. or ocho and I’ll become a Packers fan.

  65. Percy Nugz says: Sep 8, 2010 1:02 PM

    T.O. Is so wrong. Favre is an exception because he could go either way on playing or not playing, he doesn’t give a shit. He throws 33 td’s and 7 pics, T.O. Doesn’t bring that type of production to the table and he still desperately wants to play. So in other words Favre has leverage, and T.O. Doesn’t. With that said Vikings 42 Saints 35. SKOL VIKES

  66. Chapnasty. says: Sep 8, 2010 1:02 PM

    @ hailskinz
    My comment is in direct reference to your comment and has nothing to do with the above post, although TO is right.
    Do you not find it sadly pathetic that your team needs to have a “Dallas Week” filled with high school style pep rallies to get their fans excited for week 1 against their biggest rival? Your fan base is what the rest of us call “fair weather”. I would argue that no other NFL team needs an entire week of pep rallies to get excited for their biggest rival.

  67. coldtundra says: Sep 8, 2010 1:04 PM

    Hey R-tards…BF went for the best season of his life last year. 33TD’s 7 picks 4000 plus in passing. Leading the vikes to 12-4 plus the team chemistry was awesome all year regardless of the missing training camp thing. A qb’s body gets worn down a lot more than a WR. Plus TO you are good but not the best WR of all time or even top 5 WR of all time, BF is top two maybe top QB of all time.

  68. Winnipeg Walter says: Sep 8, 2010 1:04 PM

    There’s no context for the comments TO made (and I like how all the Vikings fans rush to defend Favre). Whether TO has a big mouth or not, he always puts in the work to be ready for the season physically and mentally. As a Bengals fan, I was worried to read what this article had to say but TO is on the money here. It might not need to have been said but there is nothing untrue. Didn’t people rip Chad when he went to DWTS or boxing training the year before? And he actually attended training camp after he was done with those things.

  69. Goetta-Head says: Sep 8, 2010 1:04 PM

    So because he has records he skips camp? He should be treated the same as everybody else. You guys are obviously not management material….

  70. zilla1126 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:04 PM

    T.O. is NOT right – and there is no intellectually honest process that would make someone think so.
    It obviously was not a deal breaker for the Vikings for Farve not to be there. Can you say his career-best performance last year was diminished by him not attending camp?
    Anyone who thinks that it is important for the 40 @ucking year old Farve to be beating the $hit out of himself in training camp for no reason has an axe to grind.
    I will have to give Florio credit though; he and his minions are consistently able to find quotes from the VERY few people in the game who have a problem with Farve – and then feature them prominently in order to create a false impression that everyone in the league has a problem with Farve.
    Florio has backed himself in a corner when he started ripping Farve three years ago, and his ego will continue to drive him to prove he was “right” – even when it is patently obvious that he was wrong about Farve all along.
    He has followed this pattern with other prominent NFL types that he has decided were bad people.
    Florio, is it really so important to not be seen to be wrong that someone must be smeared to hide your failings?
    Are you really that important?
    The only guy he has consistently smeared that he backtracked on was Tony Dungy. That was because he actually met and worked with him for a little while at NBC.
    If he had not met him – we would still be getting stories inferring that Dungy was a hypocrite and that he was only helping out athletes in trouble to get his name in the paper.
    That and linking him to every open NFL job saying that Dungy was trying to get the price up.
    Remember that was what he was saying about Bill Cohwer when what was really going on is that his Wife was dying. Where was the apology for that one? Hmmmm?

  71. Flvikesfan says: Sep 8, 2010 1:04 PM

    Maybe it’s because Favre is not a total f**king fool who does sit ups in his drive way to stage a bitch fit.

  72. jamaltimore says: Sep 8, 2010 1:06 PM

    Who’s T.O? didn’t he used to be on dancing with the stars?

  73. mbbrazi says: Sep 8, 2010 1:06 PM

    I totally avoid the NFL Network or ESPN or anything else that has Terrell Owens or Chad JOHNSON (your mama didn’t have a the name ochocinco) on it. These two DO NOT represent class, in fact they are about as opposite as it can possibly get. Narcissistic, vain, conceited, homely loudmouths and that’s their good side. These assclowns remind me of everything that is wrong with society and as soon as they retire (can’t be soon enough) they’ll be forgotten like yesterday’s trash. It seems that neither one will ever grow up. It’s too bad because I like Carson Palmer and would like to see him do well. But because of these two I hope Cincinnati falls flat on their face-hopefully on the face of these two, they’re sure homely enough!!!

  74. Hailskinzz says: Sep 8, 2010 1:06 PM

    You can’t blame Brett for it, it’s the organization that allows it. If you could stay home and get paid for it instead of working would you do it. When I say stay home I mean going on vacations with those tight ass wrangler jeans haha

  75. Wiscdave says: Sep 8, 2010 1:06 PM

    Everyone has been calling Favre out for missing training camp, except his teammates. PFT has been a clearinghouse for these complaints.

  76. Someone says: Sep 8, 2010 1:06 PM

    Florio, do you even read your website? If Favre gets a free pass I sure don’t see it here. He gets more negative attention than anyone.

  77. HitMachine says: Sep 8, 2010 1:06 PM

    Gets a pass?!
    Brett Favre is a national object of scorn because of his bahavior the last 3 years. He has forever changed the way he will be looked at because of his behavior. Hall of Famers have mocked him.
    TO is still an idiot.

  78. FinFan68 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:07 PM

    steeelfann says:
    September 8, 2010 12:47 PM
    go put on your batman cape and prance.
    That was funny!!!

  79. tjacksgay says: Sep 8, 2010 1:07 PM

    T.O. Needs to shut up. Maybe if he could stay with the same team for more that One year and not be a complete ahole then he could start talking about Favre. Say what you will about training camp, when Favre does show up, he is a leader and his teammates love to have him on the team.
    Everywhere the puke T.O. has been, he has been hated by a majority of the team and coaches.
    Stop dropping balls and running your mouth you puke.

  80. NinersRule! says: Sep 8, 2010 1:07 PM

    Wow! T.O. is right. Crazy

  81. Lionwulf says: Sep 8, 2010 1:09 PM

    Brett Favre= HoF
    T.O. & Ocho are not.
    When you hold the record in every major category for your position and have played for 20 years you can miss a camp or two. Plus you don’t ever hear Favre calling out his teammates or coaches in public. He may do it, but it’s behind closed doors like it’s supposed to be.

  82. Dooly says: Sep 8, 2010 1:10 PM

    Some clarification:
    a. A team did sign T.O. and he helped them get to the Superbowl and was arguably their best performer in the game albeit on one leg.
    b. His teammates have almost always like him. Quaterbacks on the other hand, not quite the same.
    C. T.O. is the NFL’s version of the boy who cried wolf so even when he’s right it’s hard to agree with him.
    D. He’s right about Favre but the only difference is the limited history in his behavioral pattern. Brett really started to reveal his true self to us following the drafting of Aaron Rodgers.

  83. bigd7387 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:10 PM

    Well one poster on here was asking “what camp were you attending T.O.?” Well since I went to the first 3 practices at Georgetown, Ky. for the Bengals camp I can tell you T.O. practiced all 3 days at camp that I saw. T.O. also was in every practice after that up until now, hasn’t been a diva, was working hard and has worked hard. How does Brett get to a pass when you know that if it would have been Chad or T.O. or any other star the media would have been all over them. Of course it’s only a 4 game suspension for Rape and everyone is ok with that.

  84. se18a29 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:10 PM

    Hahahahahaa and coming from a suicidal moron….

  85. connie says: Sep 8, 2010 1:12 PM

    Can’t believe I’m siding with T.O.
    Hope Favre gets knocked out the first game
    And Ben the fifth game lol

  86. MACHINE GUN IBIZA says: Sep 8, 2010 1:12 PM

    As you may have heard, Bengals receivers Chad Ochocinco and Terrell Owens will launch a new weekly show on Versus in October.
    —————-
    Versus? That ought to make the 30 or so folks that watch that channel real happy….

  87. quadya says: Sep 8, 2010 1:12 PM

    duh, brett favre is white…

  88. PatricktheDookie says: Sep 8, 2010 1:12 PM

    What planet are you guys living on? Favre’s been villianized by a large portion of the media.

  89. alewatcher says: Sep 8, 2010 1:12 PM

    Why stop with training camp? Favre makes ill-advised throws that even a Pop Warner coach would cringe at, and the analysts just talk about “Favre having fun and flinging the football around”. If any other QB makes the same mistake, they get roasted. (And rightfully so).
    When it comes to Favre, the ball-washing is 24/7, 365 days a year. Can’t wait until this guy finally retires for real.

  90. hemry27 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:13 PM

    I don’t like Favre buuuuuttttt……
    What the hell has TO or Ocho Stinko ever done? “who dey” ever beat? How many rings they got? How many consecutive games have they played in? What statistical categories do they lead all time…worst celebration by an ass-clown? Yeah that’s it. Shut up and play…bungles.

  91. jwill007 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:16 PM

    amazing all of the Brett Favre apologist…LMFAO!!!! TO has been a model citizen haters….and he makes a damn good point. If it was him or CHad this would be on PFT, Fox, ESPN everyday and 99% of PFT followers would be killin him….Keep it honest people ON ALL SIDES!

  92. CarlHess1 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:18 PM

    Anyone acting like Favre doesnt get a pass because he’s white needs to kill themselves so you can not reproduce. Youre a moron.

  93. rbais2 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:18 PM

    Go Terrell (Yeah, I pronounced it correctly)!!!!!

  94. My Coke Can says: Sep 8, 2010 1:19 PM

    Its because he is white!!! Bout time somebody started acting like a brotha!

  95. FoF says: Sep 8, 2010 1:19 PM

    Villa: “I will have to give Florio credit though; he and his minions are consistently able to find quotes from the VERY few people in the game who have a problem with Farve – and then feature them prominently in order to create a false impression that everyone in the league has a problem with Farve. Florio has backed himself in a corner when he started ripping Farve three years ago, and his ego will continue to drive him to prove he was “right” – even when it is patently obvious that he was wrong about Farve all along.”
    Well said. Florio has been blatently catering to the Favre hating crowd for a couple years now.

  96. coldtundra says: Sep 8, 2010 1:20 PM

    Not management material…if you are a manager and your best salesmen is continuously late for work but he/she always sells the most bringing in the most money for the company on a month to month basis, do you 1) Fire the guy because he always late or 2) let him keep showing up when he wants as long as his sales are #1. Unless you are in business not to make money then fire his a$# but if you want to make money then you let the employee come and go as they please. It is the same in football, the only thing that means anything is wins. Would the Vikings rather have had BF at camp last year and then go onto have a 8-8 season….I think not. If that is your style fine but that is NOT management material because you just ran your team into the ground and your business is broke. But hey at least you can say everyone showed up…..to fail.

  97. longestlegs says: Sep 8, 2010 1:21 PM

    jkmcooper says:
    September 8, 2010 12:48 PM
    You got to be kidding me. The day a team can sign TO or ocho and get to the Super Bowl just because they signed one of them then they can make stupid comments like this. The day they have the same accolades of Brett will be the day they can make comments like that, until then it just sounds like a pathetic attempt at a cry of racism and a very sad attempt for more attention to promote their tv show.
    ——————————————–
    I’m pretty sure the Eagles signed TO to get to the Super Bowl and did. So, by that logic his stupid comments have been valid for almost a decade!

  98. tjacksgay says: Sep 8, 2010 1:21 PM

    As far as Chad Johnson goes, I don’t have a problem with him. I just think it will be unfortunate if T.O. drags him in the the Owens sewer of football.

  99. FoF says: Sep 8, 2010 1:22 PM

    HitMachine says:
    September 8, 2010 1:06 PM
    Gets a pass?!
    Brett Favre is a national object of scorn because of his bahavior the last 3 years. He has forever changed the way he will be looked at because of his behavior. Hall of Famers have mocked him.
    Yes, he is so despised, isn’t he? It is so evident despite the fact that he has led the league in jersey sales over the past 4 years (including when he was with the Packers), his games regularly set all time ratings records, he was voted NFL’s favorite player by fans in an ESPN poll, and 3rd favorite out of any sport.
    Wow, how he has so tarnished his legacy.
    lolz, fail

  100. heyguru says: Sep 8, 2010 1:23 PM

    This is a case of the pot calling the kettle white.

  101. joetoronto says: Sep 8, 2010 1:23 PM

    J Dub: Your completely clueless.

  102. 1NationRaiderNation says: Sep 8, 2010 1:25 PM

    TO is lucky to have a job….farve rocks!

  103. phillydude24 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:25 PM

    you know florio, I’m actually going to agree with you on this one. I like favre but the type of circus he has created annually has been way out of line and the media has almost made brett look like a great guy for doing it. If T.O or any other player were to do that. They would be made to look like jerks.

  104. RedsDouche says: Sep 8, 2010 1:25 PM

    Did I actually read an ignorant comment saying T.O. isn’t one of the Top 5 receivers of all time???? Really?? You son, better check your stats and history again.

  105. In1Ear&OutYourMother says: Sep 8, 2010 1:25 PM

    Favre has been labled Selfish. People do say he is not a team palyer. He’s a great teammate and mentor so he gets away with it. T.O. pissed most of his teammates off, coaches didn’t like him, and he wasn’t great with the media. Thats why he got labeled and would get labeled.
    Oh, and because he is black obviously

  106. longestlegs says: Sep 8, 2010 1:26 PM

    mbbrazi says:
    September 8, 2010 1:06 PM
    I totally avoid the NFL Network or ESPN or anything else that has Terrell Owens or Chad JOHNSON (your mama didn’t have a the name ochocinco) on it. These two DO NOT represent class, in fact they are about as opposite as it can possibly get. Narcissistic, vain, conceited, homely loudmouths and that’s their good side. These assclowns remind me of everything that is wrong with society and as soon as they retire (can’t be soon enough) they’ll be forgotten like yesterday’s trash. It seems that neither one will ever grow up. It’s too bad because I like Carson Palmer and would like to see him do well. But because of these two I hope Cincinnati falls flat on their face-hopefully on the face of these two, they’re sure homely enough!!!
    _______________________________
    ^^^^^
    ONLY LIKES TO FOR HIS ABS. PUT A BAG OVER THAT HELMET BUDDY!

  107. traghipp says: Sep 8, 2010 1:26 PM

    Interesting Florio. You have been ripping Favre every chance you get. And, you are a huge part of the media, whose site was so popular that NBC scooped it up. So please stop with all the BS about Favre getting a pass by the media. Have you listened or read any of the talking heads this year? Noone has an original thought. You are all ripping Favre and spewing the same garbage.

  108. Dilbio50 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:26 PM

    This black on white crime!
    NOT.
    Favre is a “gunslinger” which is code word for “white quarterback.”
    Nuff said.

  109. sparky says: Sep 8, 2010 1:27 PM

    For two years the vikings have given Favre a pass.
    When your employer says you don’t have to go to the boring meeting/lecture/training that you have attended 20 times already, do you go anyway?
    I hate the Favropera but I hate TO’s unearned mouthing more. Ochocinco is just entertaining. TO is just somebody’s bitch.

  110. IRCHS1963 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:28 PM

    I am not a T.O. advocate, actually dislike him, however he has an excellent point. If it were he or Randy Moss, doing the same as Brett ‘Fraud’, the media would have been all over them for being selfish and not a ‘Team’ player !! T.O. you’re absolutely correct !!!

  111. T-Bone says: Sep 8, 2010 1:30 PM

    I don’t get it… was T.O. talking about Brett? or T.O.?
    Cuz he loves him some him…
    Pot meet Kettle

  112. MNFANINAZ says: Sep 8, 2010 1:30 PM

    Brett Favre will wear a real Hall of Fame Jacket while T.O. and OCHO will spend their time doing a Smothers Brothers impersonation at some masons club meeting.
    Has there been two morons more suited for each other than TO and OCHO… well, yeah… OCHO and that guy that fell off the back of the truck while trying to beat his wife. He was pretty sweet. was.
    out.

  113. Chiefs2010 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:31 PM

    To quote Bill Simmons:
    “Why does TO have a reality television show, I wouldn’t care if he was sitting in my living room”

  114. Charles Wood says: Sep 8, 2010 1:33 PM

    Favre is a team player. He’s threatened retirement EVERY year since 2005. Check it:
    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32147031/ns/sports-nfl
    To hold a franchise hostage like that is completely selfless. Skipping training camp… noble. Having a separate locker room away from his teammates- magnanimous. Turning his back on a nation full of Packer fans because he doesn’t like the G.M.- totally unselfish. Whinning about not acquiring Randy Moss, totally benevolent and indulgent. Favre should win a humanitarian award just because he pisses excellence.

  115. LunarPie says: Sep 8, 2010 1:33 PM

    Stop crying RACSISM! Brett is wrong for not being there and TO is wrong because he has plenty of problems in the past with being a true TEAMMATE. Ocho is a punk the loves the spotlight. What kinda teammate is that?!?!

  116. jbwbubba says: Sep 8, 2010 1:34 PM

    First off T.O. isn’t right
    Favre before he left G.B. was asked to stay away by Green Bay; they didn’t want him there. He was traded to the Jets and particpated. After being released by the Jets he was a free agent who signed late with the Vikings, yes it was to avoid camp. But he didn’t have to show up he wasn’t under contract. This year was a different matter he was still under contract and didn’t show up and fine make spectacle if you wish. Because geez this site never takes a shot at Favre.
    Bottom line the last couple of years hasn’t been about Favre wanting more money or a trade. At post 40 years old, he was trying to decide if A) he could play again and B) give his body time to heal & rest for the season.
    T.O. past hold outs were about wanting more money. But T.O. might as well be held to account for not showing up for the Bengals OTAs

  117. Supersuckers says: Sep 8, 2010 1:35 PM

    Thats the most sense Owens has made, well……ever!

  118. GotNothing says: Sep 8, 2010 1:35 PM

    we’re talkin about practice… Practice?!?! talkin about practice, man…

  119. AlanSaysYo says: Sep 8, 2010 1:37 PM

    Favre may not run his mouth, but he shares every other bad quality with TO.
    And yes, Favre is still getting a pass from the national media, ESPECIALLY those covering the NFL who work for a company with an NFL TV contract, this site being the notable exception. Does no one remember how fast NBC started pumping out the promos for the Vikings-49ers preseason game when Favre rejoined the team?
    The Vikings deserve all the negativity that will inevitably fill their locker room as a result of letting Favre get away with his poor behavior. Everyone who thinks it’s OK to let a star player have special privileges… just sit back and watch.

  120. MrHumble says: Sep 8, 2010 1:39 PM

    Not even a Vikings fan but T.O. is so far off base on this issue…..as are most idiotic fans. Whether ANY player (Favre or whomever) shows up for OTA’s, training camp etc. is strictly between the player and his teammates. In Washington, the team expressed that Haynesworth needed to be there whereas in Minny, the players on the team (and it was pretty much unanimous) all stated that they had no issue with BF missing training camp etc.. If the team doesn’t give a chit then why the hell should the media, the fans or the idiots. Hell it was Vikings players that went to Mississippi to convince BF to come back this year….doesn’t hardly sound like their was any mutiny in their camp about BF’s actions. I don’t think fans, media or any so called “experts” can say what is right for a certain team and it’s cohesiveness etc. than what the players on that team can do. As further evidence, BF did this last year to and if memory serves me correctly, he had his best career year ever, the Vikings made it to the conference championship, the players love BF, etc. etc…………….think about you genius’s, it is between player and team and no one else.

  121. purpleguy says: Sep 8, 2010 1:39 PM

    That is one large ass pot calling the kettle black.

  122. WTF??? says: Sep 8, 2010 1:40 PM

    Brett Favre is not white ! White people aren’t white ! They’re Pink ! Stop calling him white….lol

  123. ejmat says: Sep 8, 2010 1:41 PM

    The funny thing is it HAS BEEN talked about and Favre HAS BEEN labeled as such. So I’m not sure what TO is trying to prove other than what everyone already knows. He’s a jacka$$!

  124. jesse_james1 says: Sep 8, 2010 1:42 PM

    these are times where you want your guys to be in camp, bonding with your teammates,
    i guess we should ask McNabb or Garcia about how T.O bonds with his teammates
    somebody who will do anything or say anything to get a minute of attention poor baby

  125. jrmbadger says: Sep 8, 2010 1:43 PM

    He’s absolutely right. There is no excuse for Favre to skip training camp, and the media has largely given him a free pass.
    As far as his “old” body and getting worn down, I’m sure that Childress would have limited his reps in camp to a very low level. It probably wouldn’t have been much more work than what he did with those highschoolers in Miss.
    While team chemistry was great last year on the outside, winning has a way of keeping any discontentment quiet. If the Vikes start slow this year (which is a real possibility) watch out.

  126. Greginjaxfl says: Sep 8, 2010 1:46 PM

    Look people here is the difference. Brett has been in the league for almost 20 years. He is the Vikings offense and they know it. He knows the plays, the playbook, the players, and the game. AND he does not go around giving opinions on other players, doing reality shows, or making a general butt of himself. He is getting to old for his body to endure all the rigors of full training camp. Period. He still works out and practices at his local home high school which is cool cause it gives back to the community.
    I think T.O. is jealous of the respect Farve commands from his rep, maybe if would stop the stupid, pointless antics after scoring T.O. the league would respect you instead of treating you like a side show attraction. You get treated like you act, you act like a goof, you get the respect of a goof. Get over it. I have not seen a prima donna of this calibur since Dennis Rodman. Get over it, shut the hell up and play the game. Just like Jerry MacGuire said. Stop acting like Rod Tidwelll who does not get his quan.

  127. BernieMac says: Sep 8, 2010 1:46 PM

    GRpatriot says:
    September 8, 2010 12:42 PM
    I can’t believe I’m agreeing with TO???
    I second that!!!

  128. Ilovefoolsball says: Sep 8, 2010 1:47 PM

    T.O. preach on brotha! You’re making too much sense for Viking fans though. They just want Lord Favre to deliver them to the promised land: another interception when the game is in the balance.

  129. ejmat says: Sep 8, 2010 1:49 PM

    Charles Wood says:
    September 8, 2010 1:00 PM
    It’s kind of difficult for Grandpa Favre to get up every football Sunday, let alone training camp 2 a days and whatnot. He’s old and brittle. Instead of everyone whinning about it- give the guy a break already… uh, err… maybe the other ankle? A collar bone???
    ——————-
    Old and brittle? Really? Who has the record for playing in the most consiecutive games during their career? Oh yeah, Brett Favre.

  130. Mactator says: Sep 8, 2010 1:49 PM

    Wow, TO said something that I agree with…. This is the end of the world!

  131. mbbrazi says: Sep 8, 2010 1:52 PM

    P.S. Instead of T. O. & Chad Johnson going by the names Batman and Robin, how about going by their real names “Piss’n & Moan’n”!

  132. Munze Konza says: Sep 8, 2010 1:52 PM

    Wrong – the media has been all over Favre for that.

  133. aloud2judge says: Sep 8, 2010 1:53 PM

    Since when does riding a bike on the sidelines or doing situps in your driveway for the media constitute as “training camp”?

  134. trsean says: Sep 8, 2010 1:54 PM

    CarlHess1 says:
    September 8, 2010 1:18 PM
    Anyone acting like Favre doesnt get a pass because he’s white needs to kill themselves so you can not reproduce. Youre a moron.
    ———————————————————————————–
    Still trying to figure out what “pass” Favre has gotten.
    Still trying to figure out what people want the media to say about Favre that they haven’t.
    Still trying to figure out how the difference in the careers between Favre and TO aren’t insanely obvious beyond simply the color of their skin.
    Hate the Vikings. Apathetic towards Favre. Just hate stupidity more.

  135. WTF??? says: Sep 8, 2010 1:55 PM

    Brett Favre is not white ! White people aren’t white ! They’re Pink ! Stop calling him white….lol

  136. The Franchise says: Sep 8, 2010 1:57 PM

    “Had it been one of us doing some of the same things, pulling these stunts that Brett Favre has done… ”
    —————-
    Not entirely true, T.O.
    Unlike Favre, if you or Chad had done that, no body would care.
    Remember in 2005 when these guys were actually feared/respected wide receivers?

  137. onlineinsite says: Sep 8, 2010 1:58 PM

    Although T.O. makes a valid point, the main reason for the double standard is that once Favre shows up, he’s a great drama-free leader who is totally committed to playing his best on every snap all season long.
    T.O., unlike Favre, is drama-filled in the off-season as well as all season long.

  138. ItsallaboutBrett says: Sep 8, 2010 1:59 PM

    Its a sad situation. A once great quarterback with a tremendous legacy has been become a mockery with ridicule from past and current players. What is even sadder is a wimpy spineless coach lets numerous star players skip mandatory workouts and training camp and then sends three of his players down to Mississppi in the middle of training camp to beg a wishy washy 41 year old to play. Championships are not made of this.

  139. Nosredna says: Sep 8, 2010 1:59 PM

    When…..more like IF Owens is in the league for as long as Farve has been, accomplished as much as he has, then T.O. has room to talk. Until then, he needs to STFU and think about why he had such problems signing with a team this year……

  140. enders says: Sep 8, 2010 2:00 PM

    # Evpimp says: September 8, 2010 12:44 PM
    Uhmm T.O. What camp did you attend this year??
    Ohh thats right nobody wanted you Focker!
    —————–
    I’m sure someone covered this already, but just in case. T.O. was signed the day before Training Camp, and was at camp by the second day.

  141. sand0 says: Sep 8, 2010 2:01 PM

    Key differences between Favre and the fruitcakes that the media rips on worse:
    1) Favre had full permission from his team and the players generally are okay with his antics. The only people with a problem are outside looking in folks. With TO, his team and coaches were livid with his actions.
    2) Favre is in his 40s.
    3) Favre wasn’t doing pushups in his driveway for camera crews and punching team mates in the face. He doesn’t openly chew out players and team mates and blame all his problems on other people. Basically, his antics have a much more mild edge.
    4) Favre is just a much better player at a much more important position. He isn’t as expendable as an aging WR.
    5) Most important of all. Favre has more fans. Basically everyone hated TO so it made more sense for the media to do nothing but rip him. Favre has a lot of fans that wouldn’t watch that same type of coverage. Certainly Favre has haters that PFT caters to, but shows like ESPN or in game coverage aren’t going to spew that same drivel.

  142. ejmat says: Sep 8, 2010 2:02 PM

    So before this year when has Brett Favre actuallyheld out of camp and what were his reasons? Let’s se:
    1) He held out this year because he was unsure if he still could play. Not for money or any other selfish reason. As a matter of fact one can say just the opposite in that he was being considerate making sure he didn’t collect money from the team if he wasn’t going to play.
    2) He was also injured when training camp started. I guess that doesn’t matter.
    Point – TO can STFU. He has caused more disturbances during his career than anyting Favre has ever done. TO is the meaning of locker room cancer. Oh yeah, didn’t Chad hold out and publically degrade the organization that was paying him millions?
    TO can say what he wants. He made his bed and now he can lie in it.
    I will point one thing out that was uncalled for. The person that said something about Chris Henry should also STFU. That statement was disgusting.

  143. mattgso says: Sep 8, 2010 2:02 PM

    I’m agreeing with TO… and I feel dirty for doing so.

  144. Steeler Fan in Germantown says: Sep 8, 2010 2:02 PM

    Let’s assume that they are both douches, for their own unique reasons because, really, they are both douches.
    My question to TO is this: If you were making $20 mill this year and Favre was making $2 mill, would you have even brought this up?
    Could there be some cash-envy going on here.

  145. JSpicoli says: Sep 8, 2010 2:04 PM

    Let me add on TO’s premise by saying that if it were the Raiders treating Favre in the same fashion that there would be calls of “Dysfunction” and chuckles and butt slapping from T Jackson and CCarter and the like. But it is Minnesota and it is the hallowed Brett Favre, so they get a pass from the MSM mediots.

  146. Stone says: Sep 8, 2010 2:04 PM

    and constituted almost entirely of white people, no doubt.

  147. ejmat says: Sep 8, 2010 2:05 PM

    @ trsean
    ————————
    Good post. Even though you don’t like the Vikings at least you are candid enough to mention the absolute truth. Favre has been criticized to high heaven over not going to TC. FOr those that think he is getting a free pass I’d like to know their definition.
    Tell me this what would have been said differently if TO or 85 would have skipped TC?
    What a freaking joke!

  148. enders says: Sep 8, 2010 2:05 PM

    To pretty much prove TOs point…
    how many people were bitching because Chad wasn’t as VOLUNTARY practices? I think I heard more negative crap about that than I did about Favre pretending to retire again so he could skip training camp.

  149. OranjelloJones says: Sep 8, 2010 2:06 PM

    “# Chapnasty. says: September 8, 2010 1:02 PM
    @ hailskinz
    My comment is in direct reference to your comment and has nothing to do with the above post, although TO is right.
    Do you not find it sadly pathetic that your team needs to have a “Dallas Week” filled with high school style pep rallies to get their fans excited for week 1 against their biggest rival? Your fan base is what the rest of us call “fair weather”. I would argue that no other NFL team needs an entire week of pep rallies to get excited for their biggest rival.”
    OMFG…you cannot possibly be serious. Project much Slappy? For the Record the Redskins don’t “need” to have pep rallies (talk about a strawman argument), Washingtonians just loathe you knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, inbred Puke fans enough to get up for this week no matter the team record and yes we enjoy getting together in celebration of it. If you mulletheads would take a break from kissing your sisters long enough you’d remember that win or lose this is one of the finest rivalries in all of Sport.
    As for fair weather, keep projecting Slappy because that’s all you’ve got. The Redskins own the longest sellout streak in the league even through the last debacle of a decade. Furthermore go to ANY team community and ask who has the most fair weather bandwagon jumping fans and I guarantee EVERY single one of them says Dallas. There really is no comparison let alone to one of the most loyal fanbases in sports. Try again meatwhistle.

  150. Screwston says: Sep 8, 2010 2:07 PM

    This is so uncalled for favre during the off-season favre is sexting with girls old enough to be his daughters. That is far more important than any camp.

  151. shiftyshellshocked says: Sep 8, 2010 2:08 PM

    Everybody has an opinion on Favre. Just happy he’s on my team, nuff said. Skol Vikes.

  152. Steeler fans are tools says: Sep 8, 2010 2:09 PM

    Someone please give Favre the Theismann

  153. Cereal Blogger says: Sep 8, 2010 2:10 PM

    Is T.O. going to come out of the closet on his new show with Och-ho ?

  154. MotorCitySteel says: Sep 8, 2010 2:13 PM

    Love T.O……………wish he were a Steeler. He makes a valid point, nice to see him finally mature. Favre is a great QB, but a major drama Queen. Hope he didn’t play one too many years and leave a bad taste in everybodys mouth.

  155. Fogs88 says: Sep 8, 2010 2:15 PM

    SAD, SAD day when you are quoting T.O. in an effort to try to take another jab at Favre Florio. What gives? You couldn’t wring another lame, boring, moronic drop out of the Mike Wise non-story??
    Favre has not been given a free pass……actually, quite the contrary, idiots like you in the cut and paste blogging world, and even some decent journalists have obsessively posted every 5 minutes about how he is supposedly selfish and has his own set of rules.
    There is one big difference between T.O. and Favre: One has established enough character and value with another team, including a great locker room presence that said team wants to pay him $20 Million to come back, with out participating in training camp and play another year for them…….and the other had to agree to a minimum salary with incentive bonuses…….because he has been a team cancer his entire career and if he didn’t show up for a practice during mini-camp he would have been right back out on the street that he recently spent 6 mos on (and no…..he wasn’t at home relaxing in Hattiesburg, MS not really caring if he played this year – until his owner coach and teammates not named Jackson or Rosenfelds all begged him to come back…….no, no he was doing everything he could to try to get on a decent team all winter, spring and summer).
    T.O. is right, there is a BIG difference in consequences and what would/should be said if he was to skip training camp…but it has absolutely nothing to do with preferential treatment the other dude is getting, it’s due to him making a horses behind of himself his entire career.
    If Tom Brady or Peyton Manning were to retire tomorrow…….there would be a mimimum of 25 teams in the league that would sign them to a ludicrous contract next year if given the chance, and be just fine with them missing all of training camp if that’s what they needed to do to try to preserve their broken down body.
    The only thing T.O. or the idiot Florio should be complaining about……are the Laws of Supply and Demand.

  156. rickah88888 says: Sep 8, 2010 2:15 PM

    Brett Favre = 100% chance HOF 1st ballet
    Owens = 25½% chance HOF 1st ballet
    Brett Favre = Not a team cancer
    Owens = Total team cancer
    Brett Favre = Has teams trying to employ him
    Owens = Scraping the bottom of the NFL barrel
    Brett Favre = 3 League MVP, 1 SB ring
    Owens = Zippy MVP, Zippy SB ring
    Brett Favre = Widely viewed as a good guy
    Owens = Widely viewed as a total douchebag!

  157. SJ Apollo says: Sep 8, 2010 2:16 PM

    “Plus you don’t ever hear Favre calling out his teammates or coaches in public.”
    Um, how about Mike McKenzie and Javon Walker? How about not taking the blame for his interceptions in the playoffs against the Eagles in 03/04 or against the Saints last year? How about getting his own special on Fox News to go on and trash the Packers management?
    ————————————————–
    “BF is top two maybe top QB of all time”
    In the regular season, no doubt. Unfortunately, playoffs count – a lot. Favre either cost or was a major cog in the playoff defeats against the Cowboys in ’95, the Rams in ’02, the Eagles in ’03, the Vikings in ’04, the Giants in ’07, and the Saints in ’09. In Super Bowl XXXII he needed 70 yards in 1:45 to tie the game. He didn’t make it. He wasn’t close to sniffing the endzone. What did Joe Montana do in a similar situation? He pointed out John Candy in the stands before marching down the field. What did Roethlisberger do? He marched down the field without raping even one chick.
    With Favre, you always take the good with the bad because the good outweighed the bad. At the end of the year, it would leave you with 10-11 victories. Far too often, the bad came in the playoffs.
    On topic, TO would have won a Super Bowl if his quarterback wasn’t throwing up on the field.
    No big time QB has failed to come up big when it was all on the line more than Favre. If the season is on the line, who would you rather have, Favre or Bart Starr, Favre or Montana, Favre or Bradshaw, Favre or Elway, Favre or Brady, Favre or Aikman? The best of all time will have more seasons where he wins championships rather than seasons where he loses championships.

  158. Mrsteve says: Sep 8, 2010 2:17 PM

    So Farve could say TO isn’t a good WR, drops the ball all the time & he is also a fag.
    Like TO did to Garcia?
    By the way TO you aren’t fooling anyone nut breath.

  159. Packerfan73 says: Sep 8, 2010 2:19 PM

    @ jbwbubba says:
    September 8, 2010 1:34 PM
    First off T.O. isn’t right
    Favre before he left G.B. was asked to stay away by Green Bay; they didn’t want him there.
    _____________________________
    Get your facts right here. I know this is what the I ♥ Brent Favray bandwagon loves to lie about how Ted Thompson kicked him out of Green Bay,but you’re not even close to the truth.
    Let’s review the facts and timeline here:
    Mar 6 2008 – Favre cries his little eyes out and retires saying he has nothing left to give.
    Mid Mar 2008 – Favre through Campen communicates he’s having second thoughts. A meeting is arranged for 3/28 after the GM meeting where Thompson and McCarthy fly to MS and announce his return. THOMPSON APPROVES THIS
    Mar 26 2008 – Favre flip flops again, backs out of the meeting and then tells Packers again he’s retired.
    Apr 4 2008 – Sam Farmer story appears in LA Times that Bus Cook is exploring trade offers. Favre says “that’s the last thing I’m thinking of”
    Jun 2008 – Favre asks McCarthy about coming back and is “rebuffed”
    Jul 2 2008 – Mortensen reports that Favre “has an itch” Favre texts “It’s a Rumor”
    Jul 11 2008 – Favre sends letter asking for his release. Again for the mentally challenge on here;
    FAVRE SENDS A LETTER ASKING FOR HIS RELEASE!
    Jul 14 2008 – Bretta Van Minneapolis Vikings and her hero talk on Fox. Favre bashes Thompson and states “Why” when asked if he should have to compete for job.
    Jul 16 2008 – Packers file tampering charges about Vikings
    Aug 3,2008 Family Night – Favre forces his way back to camp and becomes the ultimate douche by showing up during annual family night scrimmage
    Aug 7 2008 – Favre is traded to Jets

  160. ejtowne says: Sep 8, 2010 2:22 PM

    T.O. is right. But it’s not Brett Favre is not the one to blame, it’s the Vikings. They should be the one to step up and tell him to get his a-s to camp. I think he knows (brett) that the Vikings will do anything in this world to have him at the helm, hence no training camp. They would be willing to sell their soul for just about a guarentee of 9 wins or more. And thats what you get with Brett under center, a guarentee.

  161. Unchained says: Sep 8, 2010 2:24 PM

    Jerks like TO get called out on things more than others. Michael Strahan skipped camp at least a few times and no one said a word.

  162. BRUTUS9448 says: Sep 8, 2010 2:27 PM

    Yea but Brett Farve is well Bret Farve. he can do whatever he wants.

  163. snnyjcbs says: Sep 8, 2010 2:29 PM

    Tell T.O. he is no Bret Favre, players on Teams he is on for a year work to run him out of town. They do not fly down to his crib begging him to return.
    When you are out there begging for a club to pick you up and have no takers and then see how Favre is treated I can see how Owens would become resentful.

  164. Outfoxed says: Sep 8, 2010 2:29 PM

    WTG TO!!!!!
    Even a pig finds a piece of corn in the mud once in a while.

  165. 100 no's and 1 yes still mean yes says: Sep 8, 2010 2:34 PM

    Holy double standard batman!!

  166. Anarcho Purplism says: Sep 8, 2010 2:36 PM

    TO & Ocho are attention-mongerers that constantly think of & act out plenty of AGMs (attention-getting mechanisms). The NFL is their playground. They are funny, work hard & don’t get in the kind of trouble that many athletes do. Their constant self-promotion & clownish behavior is what turns off many adults.
    Farve is a hall of famer. He doesn’t want to go thru the rigors of camp. Yeah, I think it sucks. Yeah, I wish he’d go in there & be a leader like every other QB. But, he doesn’t want to go to camp, sleep in a dorm & hang out with guys half his age. So, he’s good enough & has the leverage to not do it. That’s his deal, don’t like it….? Get another QB.
    Don’t tell me that many of you desk jockey’s do everything your job asks of you. You figure out ways to get around tasks that you dislike……as long as you are succeeding in the core-function of your job, you don’t care.
    Do many of you realize Favre is closer to Childress’s age than some of the players? So…..he doesn’t want to stand there while Chilly evaluates which 3rd string TE is going to make the team. So what.
    People who whine about fairness are often losers. You don’t have what it takes to be the best, so stop dragging down others.

  167. J Dub says: Sep 8, 2010 2:36 PM

    Hey Joetoronto…..so the interviews and public bashing of the Packers on Greta did not take place? Talking to the Lions did not take place. Who’s clueless. Keep massaging you golden Farkle statue……
    Favre’s self serving, attention whoring antics are all he cares about….he just happens to be a pretty good QB to boot. When things went haywire last year…who was the one openly challenging his coach…who was the one changing run plays to pass plays, and lastly, who was the one who sent text messages of retiring, and needed the “three stooges” to come down and talk him into playing?
    Oh, and FOF, spew your nonsense over on JSOnline…oh that’s right…you get lambasted over there every time you type a post as well.
    Get ready Vikings fans….karma is back in town.

  168. Fogs88 says: Sep 8, 2010 2:37 PM

    @ hoodeysood5
    lol you are an idiot dude.
    Re: “T.O. btw is currently the 3rd best receiver EVER,”
    ———————————————–
    LOL are you T.O.’s Mom, Dad or Uncle?? Or maybe your one of those two nasty chicks that follow him around on his show?? Just wondering……because no knowledgable football fan would even attemp to make that argument with a straight face…
    He might have the 3rd most yards of any reciever in the last decade, and the 2nd most TD’s……but he also has the MOST drops and the MOST locker-rooms completely destroyed. He is not even to “the 3rd best”. Tell any GM they have to start a team from scratch and can have any recievers in there Prime…..and T.O’s head case antics would immediately put him WAY, WAY down the totum pole.
    If your argument was being made purely on statistical data over the last decade or so……..LOL you do know that Brett Favre holds just about every career statistical record for QB’s…..right??

  169. Mike Daly says: Sep 8, 2010 2:49 PM

    Brett Favre puts himself above the team?
    SAY IT AIN’T SO!

  170. dfeltz says: Sep 8, 2010 2:53 PM

    Yeah, cause Favre has been a cancer with his 3 M.V.P awards and being a Super Bowl champion. T.O. is a damn cry baby, nothing is his fault.

  171. Chapnasty. says: Sep 8, 2010 2:55 PM

    @ OJ
    You are hilarious. Since I live in DC I am not sure where this whole kissing sister and mullet talk comes from but that would be an elitist attitude implying that just because someone is from Texas they have to be a redneck. Texas has one of, if not the best economy in the country. They also have near the bottom levels of unemployment. As a result, I find it hard to believe that they are all inbred and lack any level of intelligence as you imply.
    Next, I am not from Dallas, nor Texas and I haven’t even been there. I am one of those people who picked a random team as a 5 y/o and have followed them loyally ever since. If you do not believe that the DC area in general is full of fair weather fans then you are a complete moron.
    On Parker and Parker which airs on 106.7 the fan on Sunday they were debating this topic which is where I got it from. Every Redskin fan that called in thinks this idea is terrible. A Cowboys fan called in, from Texas and was near the top of the list when it came to being articulate, made a valid point. When asked if they did the Same thing in Dallas, he laughed and stated that Dallas plays for the Superbowl and that one random game against a divisional opponent is irrelevant in the broad scheme of things and doesn’t require a pep rally like a high school team.
    Keep your ignorant opinions on people from Texas out of it. Dallas is “America’s Team” because they are the most popular team in the country mostly from a bunch of band-wagoners that joined in the 90′s. But they don’t go away just because times might be rough. If you want I will let you borrow my Quincy Carter jersey this weekend.
    Idiot.

  172. VikingsPrincess says: Sep 8, 2010 2:57 PM

    Green N’Gold says “Give him a call and do lunch, you guys can compare notes on how many lockerrooms you’ve ruined!!”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Um…. maybe you missed this in your RAGE about your hero having a stellar time with a better team… but Brett is much loved in the lockerroom in Minnesota. To say he’s ruined it just shows your excessive bias against him.
    Your hero will retire as a Minnesota Viking. Get over it already.

  173. thirdandgoal says: Sep 8, 2010 2:57 PM

    Seems incredible that someone thinks Favre hasn’t gotten enough attention paid to him. Is that even possible?

  174. contract says: Sep 8, 2010 3:00 PM

    TO hits the bullseye on his very first try.

  175. bayou says: Sep 8, 2010 3:00 PM

    You can really blame the whole melt down of the Vikes on Chilly. Farve did it last year and everyone was ok with it. This year half the players felt entitled to skip camp. Chilly is a moron with no business being a head coach. He should go back to Philly and hold sandwiches for Reid so he can chow after every offensive series. At least while he was there no one saw what an idiot he is.

  176. Thee-1-2-fear says: Sep 8, 2010 3:01 PM

    I like what Jimmy Johnson says about how he treats football players. ” you can rely on that I’m am going to treat each and everyone of you consistently-based on what you mean to the team”. If a special teams player falls asleep in a team meeting they are cut!
    Charles Haley falls asleep in a meeting-Jimmy Johnson will have someone get him a pillow.
    Lifes not fair get over it!

  177. bomismorg says: Sep 8, 2010 3:02 PM

    pure bullsh@t,another race shot from a black man. 1) brett doesnt embarass himself or self promote like those two idiots. 2) he also has a ring in which these two idiots do not have. 3) he has 20 years experience in which these two idiots dont have. 4) brett is also well well respected unlike these two idiots. its not about race its about human nature. brett played the game the way it is supposed to be while those two chumps play like they are entertaining the ghetto. hopefully chad finds a girl on his new sh@tty show. i heard theres a twist in his new show, t.o. excepts the rose from him!!!!!!!!!!!

  178. aligreene says: Sep 8, 2010 3:07 PM

    For one T.O IS RIGHT
    2. Albert Haynesworth got blasted for skipping mini camp.Albert was called everything in the book and he missed mini camp,and the media hasnt let up.Jim Brown wanted to report to camp a little late because he was shooting a movie ,Paul Brown said no,it was a few days late and he said no,so Brown retired.
    3. Black athletes are judged differently than white athletes by the media.There is only one black athlete that could of pulled this Brett stunt off and thats Michael Jordan.
    I never agree with T.O but this time the hall of famer is right he just didnt want to play the race card

  179. Wipackman says: Sep 8, 2010 3:11 PM

    Favre is white ….. MMMMMM
    T.O and Ocho Cinco are Black …MMMMM
    Is it still the underlying racisim?
    Roethislberger is white too he can just walk in and get his suspension reduced ( ol buddy Ol Pal )
    Johnny Jolly is black — seemingly on his first Strike he has literally disappeared.
    BTW do you think you would ever see Queen fans ( AKA Prisoners ) defend Brett Favre like they do ( blindly )
    Oh yes he is on their team so all he does is OK now. MMMMMM
    Be honest if he was on the Bears you would rip him like you did when he was in GB
    Queen Fans + Jailed or soon to be Jailed Morons

  180. tmw45 says: Sep 8, 2010 3:12 PM

    Hey T.O. and Chad, can you show me your Super Bowl ring? Can you show me your MVP awards? Can you show me your record shattering consecutive starting streak? Nope you can not.
    People need to realize that Brett is special and deserves some slack. The guy won 3 MVP awards. He has a superbowl ring. Only about 38 other QB’s can say that. He will be 41 in October. I think if you have done close to what he has done then you earn the right to skip training camp. Rookies and younger guys need it. Its smart not to break a guy down in training camp. If I was a coach I would keep older proven guys on a very short work load or tell them not to show up until August 20th . After so many years you have earned it.

  181. HawgNSonsTV2 says: Sep 8, 2010 3:12 PM

    Brett Favre …is a HAWG for LIFE!

  182. OranjelloJones says: Sep 8, 2010 3:15 PM

    SJ Apollo says: September 8, 2010 2:16 PM
    “…What did Joe Montana do in a similar situation? He pointed out John Candy in the stands before marching down the field. What did Roethlisberger do? He marched down the field without raping even one chick.”
    I don’t necessarily agree with your stance on Favre ut that is some funny stuff right there. GREAT timing. :)
    Packerfan73 says: September 8, 2010 2:19 PM
    “Get your facts right here. I know this is what the I ♥ Brent Favray bandwagon loves to lie about how Ted Thompson kicked him out of Green Bay,but you’re not even close to the truth.”
    Interesting time line but one thing rife throughout is the comical bitter tone from you Packer fans. Never in the history of Sport has any fanbase collectively polished the knob of an individual player more than you guys did “Brent Favray” when he was a Packer. I’m sure you’ll come back with some lame tripe about always hating the guy but no one’s buying it.
    It is pretty comical to watch you nitwits melt down every time his name is mentioned and actually defend that piece of crap Thompson. He and AJ Smith are bunkmates at A-holes Anonymous’ in house therapy unit. Reggie White not withstanding if you guys don’t swipe Favre from Atlanta your team STILL sucks ass. It’s not only hysterical but amazing witnessing the lengths folks like you go to in order to bash the guy you literally worshiped for over a decade.
    Yea the drama in the offseason is a bit much (even though it is 100% media generated, the guy makes no public statements almost all summer) but he’s proven in spades it’s worth it.

  183. Wipackman says: Sep 8, 2010 3:16 PM

    VikingsPrincess says:
    September 8, 2010 2:57 PM
    Um…. maybe you missed this in your RAGE about your hero having a stellar time with a better team… but Brett is much loved in the lockerroom in Minnesota. To say he’s ruined it just shows your excessive bias against him.
    Your hero will retire as a Minnesota Viking. Get over it already.
    And by better team he of course refers to a team that has NEVER won a thing ( or ever will )
    Enjoy getting your ass kicked tomorrow and twice vs Green Bay Princess

  184. PackFaninPackLand says: Sep 8, 2010 3:16 PM

    Florio: “T.O. is right. Favre has largely gotten a pass for not attending offseason workouts or training camp the last three years. ”
    A “pass” ??? Seriously … a pass ??? Are you on crack Florio.
    Good lord Florio, that may be the dumbest thing you’ve ever said on this web site. And that’s saying something !

  185. chargerrich says: Sep 8, 2010 3:17 PM

    Someone check if hell is freezing over… I just agreed with the worst human being this side of Rae Carruth!
    /shame

  186. brett favres crocs says: Sep 8, 2010 3:24 PM

    This is so true. Finally, TO’s big mouth finally produced a valid argument. Time for brett to stay home.

  187. Allied Biscuit says: Sep 8, 2010 3:25 PM

    TO is a team player?
    now i’ve heard it all

  188. thirdandgoal says: Sep 8, 2010 3:36 PM

    seems to me that favre silenced the critics of his actions last season. did these two players sleep through the ’09 season and miss what he was able to do on the field?

  189. jeff12345 says: Sep 8, 2010 3:36 PM

    i hope the saints break bretts leg tom and his season ends with something other then an int for a change hahahahaha dude sucks

  190. SDW2001 says: Sep 8, 2010 3:42 PM

    Dear T.O.
    You are not Brett Favre.
    Thank you

  191. SHACKFU says: Sep 8, 2010 3:49 PM

    @ Evpimp
    He attended Bengals Training Camp, idiot.

  192. SDW2001 says: Sep 8, 2010 3:50 PM

    Everybodygot,,, says:
    Whaaa? What team went to the Superbowl just because they signed Brett Favre? The Jets? Nope… The Vikings? Nope…
    Other than that, he played for 30 years in Green Bay. He had a good supporting cast and was a very good QB for a stretch back in the mid-90s. Chances were he’d get to the Superbowl once or twice. He did manage to not completely piss down his leg in one of them, although it isn’t like he took the team on his back and carried them to victory, he just did enough not to lose the game for them and Antonio Freeman made up the difference.
    Yes, they almost got to the SB because of Brett Favre. That’s not even a question. They wouldn’t have been anywhere without him last year. You may not like it, but it’s true. You can’t make a comparison with the Jets season in 2008, either. Totally different scheme, and a coach that apparently couldn’t use him right.
    As for BF not being in camp, so? It’s been two years, the first of which he didn’t come in until after training camp (as in he was not signed and not under contract). The second one he was injured. So the Vikings waited to see. Wouldn’t you? Please….of course you would.

  193. BOYCOTTFOOTBALLcom says: Sep 8, 2010 3:52 PM

    i think farve gets plenty of slack.
    are either of these 2 going to the HOF??

  194. DH says: Sep 8, 2010 4:02 PM

    TO hit the nail on the head here. Its because Ron Jawarski and all the other media people has there mouth securely wrapped around farves balls. Farve has been annoying for like six years now. No wonder Green Bay got rid of him.

  195. petro says: Sep 8, 2010 4:11 PM

    Such a double standard with Favre. Hey, as long as he’s having fun out there. Right?

  196. raideralex99 says: Sep 8, 2010 4:15 PM

    Yes yes … all the Favre haters keep attacking!
    Why is everyone so afraid of a 41 old year old QB … oh that’s right he makes an average team like the Vikings into a SB contender … jealousy is biotch and then you die.

  197. aligreene says: Sep 8, 2010 4:19 PM

    Serena cussed out a official at a tennis match she got fined 80,000 federer cussed out someone at the same tournament nothing,they were even trying to suspend her.
    Black people in general should realize there are different rules for them and DONT BREAK THEM then there wont be a problem REAL TALK

  198. The Black Cat says: Sep 8, 2010 4:21 PM

    T.O throwing a QB under the bus, big surprise?

  199. jetsgirl says: Sep 8, 2010 4:23 PM

    I can’t believe I agree with T.O. With that said, don’t forget 2008 when he showed up in time to play in a pre-season game for the JETS!!!

  200. aligreene says: Sep 8, 2010 4:25 PM

    CHARLIE SHEEN KICKS A WOMAN ass every year he still gets acting work.Isiah Washington called a dude a fag got fired and hasnt been seen or heard from again.Mel knocks out his baby moms teeth and spits racial slurs like strom thurmond ,and he gets a pass they make light of it.
    TIGER CHEATED ON HIS WIFE AND it damn near ended his career .Protest and so on carry on to this day .

  201. Terrell Blowens says: Sep 8, 2010 4:25 PM

    Ironcally, T.O. himself called out McNabb and said he would rather play with Favre, and 5 years later he calls out Favre (although Brett deserves it)

  202. ViqueenTears says: Sep 8, 2010 4:45 PM

    I know some other guys who will be taking aim at Brett Favre Thursday night…its those rotten, dirty Saints…they just play too hard for us…(cries, cries, whines, kicking feet…boo freakin hoo)! Bring it Viqueen goons!

  203. Pervy *Harvin says: Sep 8, 2010 4:56 PM

    TO is a bitch….Favre has earned the right from a long career as a model teammate and NFL Iron Man….wtf have you done TO besides creates chaos on every team you play for….

  204. FreddieBaby says: Sep 8, 2010 4:56 PM

    Of all people, T.O. has no right to shoot his mouth off about the treatment of Favre. Just sour grapes on his part.

  205. troy says: Sep 8, 2010 5:01 PM

    B. Farve was actually charged with beating his wife. You never heard that because white media only whispers any news that risk tainting their white superstars. On the other hand let any minority star fartt and you won’t hear the end. The bigger and blacker the player the harder white media will attack. That’s all T O was saying. Oh yea…. WHO DEY!!!

  206. Kaleb says: Sep 8, 2010 5:37 PM

    Because it’s T.O., people are going to deride this. For those saying Favre didn’t get a free pass, why does the media keep sniffing his jockstrap?

  207. shaggytoodle says: Sep 8, 2010 5:42 PM

    While TO does diva it up, I only recall one afternoon where people were lined up in his driveway. Favre on the other hand has Ms. Nichols or Mr. Edward camping outside his house every August.

  208. troy says: Sep 8, 2010 6:47 PM

    I really dont understand this love/hate relationship the media has with T O. T O loves the spotlight and the media gives him all he wants.Yet, the media hates his gut. T O never gets arrested or get into any kind of trouble. T O doesnt beat dogs,rape bar chicks, or even carry loaded weapons around. T O has is known around the league for being one of the hardest workers on the job. I dont blame him for being a little sour. Tell me how many peolpe are at your job getting away with doing les work..Tell me when thats ok.

  209. Mark McKee says: Sep 8, 2010 6:48 PM

    How many rings do T.O. & Chad Johnson have between them? That’s why they have to go to camp….

  210. Crip2knight says: Sep 8, 2010 7:06 PM

    Evpimp says:
    September 8, 2010 12:44 PM
    Uhmm T.O. What camp did you attend this year??
    Ohh thats right nobody wanted you Focker!
    Dah! T.O. Was at the Bengals’ training camp and is continuing to hone incredible sync with Carson.

  211. CaptainMarvel says: Sep 8, 2010 7:08 PM

    Favre has skipped training camp 2 times; the last 2 years since he’s on the Vikings. But the team and players were obviously fine with it. They obviously love him. Plus he’s played great. Plus he went the previous 18 years without so much as even missing 1 game. So all you douch-bags can shut the hell up. You’re all just jealous. And T.O. is a cancer everywhere he goes. Favre has never ran-his-mouth about other players, unlike T.O. So once again all you Favre haters, please shut the hell up!

  212. Gunner420 says: Sep 8, 2010 7:32 PM

    T.O. maybe right to a certain extent, but TO and CO are well known career jacka$$es and clubhouse cancer’s. Favre is far from both.

  213. Favre 101 says: Sep 8, 2010 7:48 PM

    Favre 20 mil and T.O. lame WR didn’t make Bills any better. Drop’s the ball – when open and has to take incentive to get a job… Failure everywhere he lands… Remember he was hurt and messed up his only chance to win a Super Bowl. Oh Yeah! Favre has one of those and 20 Mil at age 41… What a hack and NOT A HALL OF FAMER. Favre First Ballot…
    T.O. Show is the only thing anyone will remember on the Jersey Shore…
    T.O. what a joke….

  214. Shark839 says: Sep 8, 2010 8:21 PM

    LETS BREAK IT DOWN IN A SIMPLE WAY FOR T.O. TO UNDERSTAND.
    The Vikings begged Farve to take a job.
    Your buddy had to beg the Bengals for you to get a job.
    See the difference?

  215. Deb says: Sep 8, 2010 8:51 PM

    Pervy *Harvin says:
    September 8, 2010 4:56 PM
    TO is a bitch….Favre has earned the right from a long career as a model teammate and NFL Iron Man….wtf have you done TO besides creates chaos on every team you play for….
    ————————————————
    That about covers it. Besides, Favre has gotten BUCKETS of criticism. Maybe T.O. was too busy preening in front of the mirror to notice.
    @Chapnasty …
    You live in D.C.? One of my favorite cities, but yikes! not for a Cowboys fan. Bless your heart!

  216. acers says: Sep 8, 2010 10:39 PM

    The reality of all these other athletes saying bad things about Favre is that THEY ARE JEALOUS!
    Don’t you think for one second they are thinking: “man, where did I go wrong.? Why can’t I get enough respect that my team will understand that I am a respected HOFer to be, that I will give my team enough time to make suitable choices, yet save my body for another brutal season.”
    Most athletes can only DREAM of that scenario. The fools on ESPN like Bruschi and company are 100% envious, jealous, and everything in between.
    TO-YOU THROW EVERYONE UNDER THE BUS-IT’s\S WHAT YOU DO—AND YOU DO IT VERY WELL.
    The most important point is this: THE VIKINGS TEAMMATES OF FAVRE LOVE THE GUY-BRETT FAVRE.
    Haters, you never will like it. Favre never put a gun to any of the coaches, team, saying this or that. He wasn’t pissed off about a contract holding out like 90% of the homies that do. The guy was healing, and no, Brett Favre does not need training camp, he already has a relationship with the team. So, everything works out for the organization.
    So, TO, keep wishing for something that will ALWAYS evade you—R-E-S-P-E-C-T.

  217. troy says: Sep 8, 2010 10:44 PM

    Im sure camp isnt the only thing farve gets his way with the Vikings. I bet their are players that wont speak their minds so that dont end up like whats his name..You know. That qb that didnt keep his mouth shut and no longer has an nfl job. I doubt anybody could even remember his name now. I doubt anybody else with the viking wants to end up like that.

  218. troy says: Sep 8, 2010 10:50 PM

    Farve almost got a super bowl with a great team. On the other hand T O got to the super bowl with a great (eagles) team. T O has a stronger work ethic. T O just doesnt get the credit for what he has done in the nfl.

  219. Grimmlock42 says: Sep 9, 2010 12:19 AM

    Good luck Carson. This guy still hasn’t learned his lesson about criticizing quarterbacks.

  220. Patrick T. Randolph says: Sep 9, 2010 12:32 AM

    T.O. is essentially a first class idiot. Brett has been playing for 20 years and deserves the right to rest during the summer. He has outlasted 309 Quarterbacks in the NFL since his start in September of 1992. His work on and off the playing field is astounding. Jealously T.O.–you are but a jealous fool. Grow up and learn to keep your eye on the ball and not on your childish little ego.
    Cheers,
    Patrick T. Randolph

  221. spiritof66 says: Sep 9, 2010 12:52 AM

    Dear T.O.
    Getting away with murder in plain sight, is our specialty.
    Love,
    Brett’s Red Croc’s

  222. EveryDamnDay says: Sep 9, 2010 1:19 AM

    And how many years has Brett given the game?.. He’s been playing football since T.O. the tv hoe was in diapers.. if his team is with him on it shut the hell up. Hes put his time in and then some. Have a little respect.. not that you’ll ever be as great.. sure its annoying that he wont retire already but don’t hate because your team wont support you that way sissy.

  223. macowaco says: Sep 9, 2010 8:00 AM

    FINALLY SOME COMMON SENSE OUT OF T.O.
    Look at the big stink over Haynesworth. Had Childress pulled that with Favre, HE WOULD HAVE QUIT. He is a glory seeker, who will spend Wed. evening on his ass or a stretcher.

  224. FoF says: Sep 9, 2010 8:04 AM

    HitMachine says:
    September 8, 2010 1:06 PM
    Gets a pass?!
    Brett Favre is a national object of scorn because of his bahavior the last 3 years. He has forever changed the way he will be looked at because of his behavior. Hall of Famers have mocked him.
    Yes, he is so despised, isn’t he? It is so evident despite the fact that he has led the league in jersey sales over the past 4 years (including when he was with the Packers), his games regularly set all time ratings records, he was voted NFL’s favorite player by fans in an ESPN poll, and 3rd favorite out of any sport.
    Wow, how he has so tarnished his legacy.
    lolz, fail

  225. paranoidandroid says: Sep 9, 2010 10:40 AM

    are you kiddin me? players do this all the time. what, because TO and Ocho bring it up suddenly its an issue? nevermind the fact the TO has held out before but he’s concerned about team building and chemistry? give me a f-in break.
    bunch of morons. just try to put the whole thing into perspective. favre had surgery on his ankle over the summer so how the F was he supposed to attend training camp?

  226. ACS2 says: Sep 9, 2010 10:53 AM

    CaptainMarvel says:
    September 8, 2010 7:08 PM
    Favre has never ran-his-mouth about other players, unlike T.O.
    ———-
    I respectfully disagree.
    - Javon Walker

  227. Strick says: Sep 9, 2010 12:19 PM

    You’re irrelevant, T.O. Years of screaming “look at me” have only served to encourage everyone to ignore you completely.
    Shut up. Go away. Die lonely.
    Signed,
    - NOT a Favre Fan

  228. looker27 says: Sep 9, 2010 6:11 PM

    Anyone know if Obermann is on the broadcast tonight. If so I will not be watching the game.

  229. marinofreakout says: Sep 9, 2010 6:31 PM

    if i played in the league for 20 years id do whatever the hell i wanted to. they begged him to come back. he didnt want to.so y should he voluntarily go to training camp? hes also earned the right through 17 years of hall of fame play t.o and ochocinco def havent.

  230. lou3914 says: Sep 9, 2010 8:12 PM

    Can somebody tell T.O. he can go get himself a contract that states he doesnt have to go to training camp.T.O……….Go find a team that dont give a crap if you dont go to training camp or not like Farve did. Haten on Farves deal,pathetic

  231. LanMan says: Sep 10, 2010 12:04 AM

    Far just proved tonight why he should have been in camp getting in shape and working with his receivers. Viking fans should buckle up and get ready for a bumpy ride. This can’t end good.

  232. CaptainMarvel says: Sep 10, 2010 11:40 AM

    In a way you’re right, LanMan. It seems nothing short of a Super Bowl victory will get everyone to shut the hell up about about how Favre chokes, Vikings choke, yada-yada. All that nonsense could be applied to every other team too.

  233. ACS2 says: Sep 10, 2010 12:40 PM

    lou3914 says:
    September 9, 2010 8:12 PM
    Can somebody tell T.O. he can go get himself a contract that states he doesnt have to go to training camp.T.O……….Go find a team that dont give a crap if you dont go to training camp or not like Farve did. Haten on Farves deal,pathetic
    ————–
    And in other news, PFT asshat lou3914 claims to know the details of Brett Favre’s contract with the Minnesota Favres.

  234. Goetta-Head says: Sep 10, 2010 2:09 PM

    Case in Point as to why Farve should have worked with his receivers in TC. Chilly is a terrible HC and the Vikings are going to have some trouble early on this year. If Favre cant go to TC and participate then he is too old and decrepit to perform in a 16 game season anyway. He just didnt really look all that into it last night.

  235. FreakNasty says: Sep 10, 2010 2:45 PM

    Evpimp says:
    September 8, 2010 12:44 PM
    Uhmm T.O. What camp did you attend this year??
    Ohh thats right nobody wanted you Focker!
    ================================
    Go round up your hoes. T.O. was in camp only 2 days after the start.

  236. ACS2 says: Sep 10, 2010 3:04 PM

    CaptainMarvel says:
    September 10, 2010 11:40 AM
    In a way you’re right, LanMan. It seems nothing short of a Super Bowl victory will get everyone to shut the hell up about about how Favre chokes, Vikings choke, yada-yada. All that nonsense could be applied to every other team too.
    —————
    Well, maybe it could apply to every team that’s 0-4 in the Super Bowl. That’s choking.

  237. footballrulz says: Sep 10, 2010 5:29 PM

    T.O. takes aim at Brett Favre
    ________________________________
    Obviously, he missed!!

  238. BlitzDorsey says: Sep 10, 2010 11:36 PM

    I guarantee this is the only time T.O., Ochocinco, Florio and myself will all agree about the same topic.

  239. David56 says: Sep 11, 2010 4:46 AM

    Sick to death of reading about or seeing on tv or hearing about Brett Favre. Sooner-or-later this season he’s going to get absoluetly leveled by a blind sided sack and that is when the Vikes will really regret letting Sage go to the G-Men.

  240. kinge says: Sep 15, 2010 9:38 AM

    First off if you played any kind of sports than you know that all athletes have bad attitudes, now on Brett Farve, Every positive achievement he has-he really deserves but he has gotten away with a lot of selfish behavior. Another problem is Farve’s fans; the white man has a crush on him so they give him clearance to do anything he wants. He is not the best QB ever in fact he is the only QB I know that can throw 3 INT’s and start next sunday. Also remember that he got those stats playing in a city with a team that was so sorry that he became hope to them so they let him do what he wanted. For the people who is praising his 33 TD’s and 7 INTs Remember he was brought to WIN the SUPERBOWL not get a game away from it. Not to be only a FARVE HATER T.O. has done some dumb things in his career as much as chad johnson but they are right on the money with farve.

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