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Goodell got a bad reception from some Colts

Commissioner Roger Goodell embarked last month on a tour of NFL training camps.  With a lockout possibly (or possibly probably) looming, it made good sense to make the rounds, shake hands with fans, and slap backs with players.  Unlike every other sports commissioner, Goodell has mastered the ability to communicate with fans a a fan and with players as a peer, even though Goodell’s own football career ended at Washington & Jefferson College in Washington, Pennsylvania (a town known to those of us who grew up 30 miles away in the Northern Panhandle of West Virginia as “Little Washington”).

In Indianapolis, Goodell likely felt more like Custer than the general after whom his college was named, given the reception Goodell received from a couple Colts players.  Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports reports, citing two unnamed sources, some Colts players “admonished Goodell with swear words.”  Center Jeff Saturday, a member of the NFLPA Executive Committee, reportedly cut the meeting short to prevent further escalation.

Apparently, the acrimony arose because Goodell couldn’t answer many of the questions that the players were posing.  As Silver reports, Browns linebacker Scott Fujita asked Goodell questions like, “What do the owners want?  What’s it going to take to get a deal done?”  And Fujita didn’t like it when he didn’t get an answer.

“You’re the NFL Commissioner,” Fujita reportedly said. “You’re here as the
mouthpiece for the owners, and you can’t even tell us what they want?
The CBA is up in March. Don’t you
think you need to start giving us some answers?”

Though Goodell had to have known that one or more players would try to get into topics that Goodell simply can’t address beyond the confines of formal negotiating session, Fujita should have known as a member of the Executive Committee not to ask blunt questions that get to the bottom line of the labor dispute.  What did Fujita expect him to say?

In hindsight, it would have been better to not open the floor for questions at all, explaining from the outset that, given the current issues between labor and management, the best approach for the players is to present questions to the union’s representatives.  The problem, however, is that Goodell or someone else in the league office thought that a Belichick-style answer without an answer would suffice.

And, obviously, it didn’t.

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73 Responses to “Goodell got a bad reception from some Colts”
  1. Zach says: Sep 9, 2010 1:46 PM

    “What do the owners want? ”
    Money.

  2. georgeanderson says: Sep 9, 2010 1:49 PM

    I hate commenting on someones writing style,everyone is unique, but this headline is misleading. The majority of your article is about the Scott Fujita of the Browns.

  3. Patsfansince73 says: Sep 9, 2010 1:49 PM

    Goodell is a tool and should walk away…. far away from anything to do with football.

  4. SeaColt213 says: Sep 9, 2010 1:52 PM

    This article is ridiculous…
    Florio, only like 1/8th of your stories are even informative and/or respectable.
    I wish I could make an ass ton of money with a .125 success rate.

  5. richkotitte says: Sep 9, 2010 1:53 PM

    Jaguars Top All NFL Teams With 14000 New Season-Ticket Sales
    SportsBusiness Daily (subscription)
    The Jaguars have sold 14000 new season tickets, up 44% over last year and the “highest this year in the NFL,” according to Kimberly Morrison of the SportsBusinessDaily!!
    Get on this Florio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. Kevin DuBrow says: Sep 9, 2010 1:55 PM

    Typical classless Colts. Luckily the pumped in crowd noise was so loud Goodell couldnt hear their swears.

  7. Ace613 says: Sep 9, 2010 1:55 PM

    What does Tony Dungy think about this?

  8. pacificamike says: Sep 9, 2010 1:55 PM

    florio,
    do us all a favor and go wrap a rope around your balls and neck and go hang yourself in the closet
    -PM

  9. fresno500 says: Sep 9, 2010 1:57 PM

    I fully support the anti-Goodell sentiment. Although not for the reasons this article explores. He has instituted some of the most draconian fines for B.S. as far as I am concerned and made the NFL EARN the title the No Fun League.

  10. Poo Flinging Monkey says: Sep 9, 2010 1:57 PM

    It’s hard for me to believe that there will really be a work stoppage in 2011. I worked for the NFLPA in the 80′s and was there for the strike in 1987. The union was firm in its belief that the owners would blink, and we know how that turned out. However, that was in a good economy.
    I have to believe that both sides know now that a strike of any kind would take years to recover from. Just ask MLB and the NHL. Baseball lost (by some estimates) $200,000,000.00, and the NHL nearly fell off the sports radar.
    A strike would not only cost the players and owners millions, but would also put thousands of people out of work, and cost the NFL cities millions in lost revenue. Hotels, restaurants, concessions… the list goes on and on.
    To paraphrase Gordon Gecko, greed is NOT good.

  11. AlanSaysYo says: Sep 9, 2010 1:57 PM

    Tony Dungy doesn’t appreciate the Colts’ use of swear words at the commissioner and thinks they should apologize. He’s cool with Bill Polian throwing people against walls, though.

  12. Richie's Rebel Rousers says: Sep 9, 2010 1:59 PM

    They are going to drive this product into the ground. Enjoy this season, it will be the last for a long time.

  13. I didn't hear no bell. says: Sep 9, 2010 1:59 PM

    Stay classy dolts.

  14. FireJerryJones says: Sep 9, 2010 2:00 PM

    Fujita had better hope he never has to go to New York for a disciplinary meeting.
    Like.. let’s say a steroid use issue.
    Pretty sure he’s going to be ‘randomly’ tested a lot this year.

  15. trippen says: Sep 9, 2010 2:01 PM

    “What do the players want?”
    Money.
    “What do the fans get?”
    No football.

  16. pftfanboy says: Sep 9, 2010 2:02 PM

    look at it this way, we will all have something riding this off season to keep things more interesting.
    think of how much drama would ensue if there was a lockout.
    PFT could corner the media market on all the off the field nonsense that would certainly occur.
    good times.

  17. BP says: Sep 9, 2010 2:02 PM

    Those Colt’s players better watch it. If they piss off Goodell he might revert the contact rules back to being more like actual football and they will be back to being humiliated come playoff time. I mean more humiliated than they are now at playoff time. And PM might not be able to roll up such big dome inflated numbers either.

  18. Strick says: Sep 9, 2010 2:03 PM

    “This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.”
    - Admiral Josh Painter, “Hunt for Red October”
    What were we talking about again?

  19. Deel says: Sep 9, 2010 2:03 PM

    Why is he visiting these teams if he can’t answer any of their questions anyway?

  20. JimmySmith says: Sep 9, 2010 2:04 PM

    The owners want the Union to bend over and assume the position. Any other questions?

  21. Terrell Blowens says: Sep 9, 2010 2:04 PM

    Goodell is a moron. All he’s good for is discipline for off- field events, and even then he is pretty inconsistent with his punishments. He’s taken the fun out of football. No celebrations, no big hits against “defenseless” receivers who jump up over the middle to make a catch, protecting star QBs by making up stupid penalties… the NFL under Goodell has become less fun than it used to be.

  22. Bradwins says: Sep 9, 2010 2:06 PM

    “Unlike every other sports commissioner, Goodell has mastered the ability to communicate with fans a a fan and with players as a peer…”
    I’m surprised to hear you be so complimentary of Goodell. In my opinion, Goodell is a terrible commissioner. Yes, its easy to look good if you are being compared to Gary Bettman or Bud Selig, but compared to David Stern or even Paul Tagliabue, Goodell doesn’t seem all that sharp to me.
    As far as talking to fans as a fan, I don’t think any fans buy that B.S. I can’t speak for players, but based on this item it doesn’t seem like they do, either.

  23. WhoDeynLA says: Sep 9, 2010 2:12 PM

    This is now the third time I’ve seen this story.
    OCNN has more original content

  24. Junior says: Sep 9, 2010 2:13 PM

    Wait, he was in Indianapolis being cussed at by Jeff Saturday then a Browns player asked him questions? WTF?
    Holy crap this is a poorly written article. Maybe worry less about being witty and letting us know about the panhandle of West Virginia and focus on putting together a story that makes sense.

  25. I Am Spartacus says: Sep 9, 2010 2:14 PM

    Typical union toadies. Let the group speak for the individual when it’s in my best interest. But treat me like an individual when it’s in my best interest.
    You can’t have it both way, folks. When you join a union, you surrender your identity, livelihood, and manhood to professional liars and thieves. Deal with it or bust it up.

  26. WhoDeynLA says: Sep 9, 2010 2:15 PM

    Stole it from Yahoo. Nice effort though

  27. minnesconsin_ad says: Sep 9, 2010 2:15 PM

    why do people waste their time complaining about Florio’s editorial acumen. The reason he can make an “ass ton of money” is because your’e clicking through the stories and wasting your time in the comments section. Get over it. You’re jealous because your perception is that he gets paid a lot to do a little. Tough. Just move on. Antonio Bryant got paid a lot to do… well, pretty much nothing — go find his blog and clog up the comments section with your inane indictments. child, please.
    To the point of the story…I give Goodell credit for putting himself out in public repeatedly, even if to me he repeatedly looks like an ass for it. I watched one of the fan forum things on NFLN and he did a terrible job answering questions. But he obviously sees value in at least creating the perception that he’s accessible to fans and players.

  28. jediwrstlr says: Sep 9, 2010 2:15 PM

    This isnt the FIRST time players got upset with the comish after he was unable to answer questions, as I remember, the FIRST incident were not difficult questions. This guy is a moron, and the players are right….with the end near, it is time to start giving answers.

  29. perm says: Sep 9, 2010 2:16 PM

    Be sure to visit http://www.30dayslate.com for all your pro football needs.

  30. stillayinzer says: Sep 9, 2010 2:16 PM

    Goodell is an ass clown. Does anyone actually like or respect the guy? Fans hate him. Players hate him. I guess the owners must like him because no one else does.

  31. Jackson says: Sep 9, 2010 2:17 PM

    Fujita is the man

  32. RAMROD says: Sep 9, 2010 2:18 PM

    And, obviously, you’re a loser.

  33. calraider says: Sep 9, 2010 2:21 PM

    Florio you are such an idiot…the NFL commish comes to your locker room and you DON’T ASK QUESTIONS?… I SWEAR you are a blithering idiot almost as ridiculous was when you wrote Mayne they should have not opened the floor for questions..Good for Fujita for asking ..and Goodell and Fujita for Not putting the confrontation in public…thaT WAS YOU…WHIch shows how Goodell ans Fujita got where they are and wht you are a hack

  34. realityonetwo says: Sep 9, 2010 2:22 PM

    Interesting. I grew up 40 minutes away from Washington, Pa., but I never heard it referred to as “Little Washington.”

  35. drumbug71 says: Sep 9, 2010 2:23 PM

    So….the heading says “Goodell got a bad reception from some Colts” but then half of the article is about Browns linebacker Scott Fujita.
    Wouldn’t have been more appropriate to title it “Goodell got a bad reception from some NFL players” or “Goodell’s peacemaking tour hits some speedbumps” or something broad like that?

  36. Nosredna says: Sep 9, 2010 2:24 PM

    Goodell got a bad reception everywhere he went……nothing new here!

  37. -RoNiN- says: Sep 9, 2010 2:24 PM

    The Jaguars are one of the few teams that actually HAVE 14,000 new season tickets available for purchase!!! LOL

  38. promichael says: Sep 9, 2010 2:26 PM

    Mike, your correct restricting questions would have been the correct route. PR can only go so far without getting specific. Well the owners do want to keep money in their pockets, how much is for the negotiation table…..which is impossible to address. I’m sure Roger did not learn any new words that begin with “F”

  39. mekono says: Sep 9, 2010 2:26 PM

    The owners pay Goodell. They hired him and they can fire him.
    Do the players deserve an answer? Yep..
    Are they going to get it from Goodell? Nope..
    This situation is bad, and of course we as fans will end up being in the middle. Caught between owners that can’t agree with each other. Millionaires want more. A great message in today’s economic situation.

  40. dbartdog says: Sep 9, 2010 2:27 PM

    Florio shilling for the NFL!

  41. Tombradysbaby says: Sep 9, 2010 2:29 PM

    # SeaColt213 says: September 9, 2010 1:52 PM
    This article is ridiculous…
    Florio, only like 1/8th of your stories are even informative and/or respectable.
    I wish I could make an ass ton of money with a .125 success rate.
    ——————————————————
    Get your own website, blog, and millions of viewers a month before you throw out stupid statements like this.

  42. robert ethen says: Sep 9, 2010 2:29 PM

    Allbad for Goodell.

  43. chitown26 says: Sep 9, 2010 2:30 PM

    Florio… *sigh*
    “Goodell got a bad reception from some Colts” .. and then most of your article is about Browns linebacker Scott Fujita.
    Come on man.
    Also, please proof read your posts. “…Goodell has mastered the ability to communicate with fans a a fan and with players as a peer…”
    Huh?
    Either way, this is a terrible article.

  44. CO55 says: Sep 9, 2010 2:33 PM

    “What did Fujita expect him to say?”
    Perhaps something besides, “Next question”?
    God, Florio, now you’re a part-time mouthpiece for the NFL owners?

  45. NabsMackie says: Sep 9, 2010 2:33 PM

    Goodell simply can’t address beyond the confines of formal negotiating session, Fujita should have known as a member of the Executive Committee not to ask blunt questions that get to the bottom line of the labor dispute.
    Why the hell not? Is he not the Commissioner? If there’s one person that’s supposed to be able to ask and answer those questions it should be him.

  46. allinSTACKme says: Sep 9, 2010 2:33 PM

    Evidently the population of mentally handicapped people in Jacksonville went up by 14,000 during this NFL off season.

  47. DEMOLITION says: Sep 9, 2010 2:33 PM

    What a boring ass 1st paragraph

  48. IckeyShuffled says: Sep 9, 2010 2:34 PM

    Florio might want to point out that that’s two separate visits, one to Cleveland, one to Indy, the way you wrote it makes it appear Fujita was in Indy.
    This tends to happen when you plagiarize other sites for their stories and then try and your add on your own spin to pretend it’s original.

  49. Smash33 says: Sep 9, 2010 2:34 PM

    Its the commissioner’s job to make the owners more money. That’s why he is paid. So what if these are rich old men who just want more. Its not up to some idiot politician (Read: EgObama) to determine how much is enough.
    He is just doing his job.

  50. Hauschild says: Sep 9, 2010 2:36 PM

    Goodell’s nothing more than an empty suit – not unlike many that hold powerful positions throughout the corporate and government world these days.
    The good news is that these “types” are being exposed every day and it won’t be long before those that have no business being in the positions they’re currently in, are tossed aside like yesterday’s newspaper and replaced with those in the know.

  51. robert ethen says: Sep 9, 2010 2:36 PM

    Silver’s rats are always “unnamed”. I bet his dog is known as “Dog” and his kids go by “One”, “Two”, and “Three”.

  52. TampaBayBucs7-9 says: Sep 9, 2010 2:37 PM

    holly moley people go to Jags Games.
    When they held the superbowl there i thought they would have trouble selling that game out.
    L.A. Jags Baby.

  53. Citizen Strange says: Sep 9, 2010 2:44 PM

    The owners won’t open their books and Goodell says it’s the FANS that overwhelmingly want an 18 game season.
    The owners’ (with Goodell as their mouthpiece) whole negotiating strategy is based on lies and deceit. They have not said or done one honest, good faith thing.

  54. AlphaQ2 says: Sep 9, 2010 2:45 PM

    The owners don’t want to have to give some rookie, who’s never taken an NFL snap, 50 million in guaranteed money. That’s what the owners want Mr. Fujita….
    Tired of winey twenty something millionars crying about everything. Shut up and play the game you are being overpaid to play before you go on your vacation for half the freaking year.

  55. petro says: Sep 9, 2010 2:50 PM

    @ georgeanderson – You are right on. How can Florio critique Fujita? Of cours ehe has to ask a point blank question seeing as the CBA ends in March? Seems to me that Fujita just wanted to know what it would take. If Fujita is on the Executive Committe and he needs to ask that question in that sort of forum with Goodell then that is bad news.

  56. ttommytom says: Sep 9, 2010 2:54 PM

    If Florida’s Panhandle is called ‘The Redneck Riviera’ then what pray tell is the one in West Virginny called?

  57. LowVoltage says: Sep 9, 2010 2:59 PM

    Umm…what does the Browns LB complaints have to do with the Colts? This article makes no sense. Was this written by Florio Jr.?

  58. promichael says: Sep 9, 2010 2:59 PM

    Yeah, I guess Goodell thought the veteran Colts were going to kiss his public relations speaking butt.

  59. CHIEF ZEE says: Sep 9, 2010 3:00 PM

    Jaguars are a B possibly C list NFL team.

  60. Lucky5927 says: Sep 9, 2010 3:11 PM

    See, this is the problem. This CBA is being handled by a few people on both sides. Nothing is ever going to get done at this rate. Players should be informed about the issues and specifics between the two sides. The players should have that ammunition of information BEFORE going to their player representative. The players could push to get a deal done, before the players association are ready. Because in all honesty, if the players don’t know the specifics about the issues at hand by now, then their representative is not doing a good job of keeping these players informed. Goodell passed up the opportunity to pass along information, as opposed to pawning the responsibility onto someone else (Which seems to be the norm these days in corporate America). He could have collected a lot of respect by doing so. Instead he comes across as someone who does not want to get involved in this issue. Which is rediculous as this league, the National Football League, is ultimately HIS responsibility.

  61. 1072 says: Sep 9, 2010 3:14 PM

    At first I really liked Goodell, but as time has gone on he’s proven to be nothing but a phony, errogant prick. These owners are all greedy assholes that are about to kill the game’s popularity.

  62. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Sep 9, 2010 3:18 PM

    I do think it’s kind of funny that the comissioner of the NFL got heckled.

  63. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Sep 9, 2010 3:28 PM

    He could have collected a lot of respect by doing so. Instead he comes across as someone who does not want to get involved in this issue. Which is rediculous as this league, the National Football League, is ultimately HIS responsibility.
    ___________
    Ummm either that or he didn’t want to piss off the decision makers within the NFLPA. It may be a union where everybody gets a vote, but they don’t all sit down at a massive 1500 person table and discuss it and go through line by line.
    The first rule of negotiation is never show your hand. The second rule is don’t let personal feelings get in the way of a deal.
    If you irk the people making the decisions for the other side by freely giving away information that they’ve DECIDED not to share with their peers…well that’s just stupid.

  64. BernieMac says: Sep 9, 2010 3:50 PM

    Goodell has mastered the ability to communicate with fans a a fan and with players as a peer
    Another error!!! I guess you made good sense of it all! Your from WV. That or you let your kid type this you

  65. packerjoeZ says: Sep 9, 2010 4:01 PM

    NFLN needs to broadcast these forums, not Mr. Roger Smarmy answering the same questions over and over from fans.

  66. Steel086 says: Sep 9, 2010 4:07 PM

    @Citizen Strange…I agree Goodell is full of ish. He keeps phrasing his statement about the 18 game season to make it seem like the fans are asking for 18 regular season games. If you listen to what he actually says ” The fans keep telling me that they dont like the preseason” Ok that is true. But the fans are not saying kill the preseason and add 2 more regular season games. Wordplay! I for one dont want 2 more regular season games. More injuries and games being decided by who is not playing rather than solid competition.

  67. richkotitte says: Sep 9, 2010 4:11 PM

    @TampaBayBucs7-9 says:
    September 9, 2010 2:37 PM
    “holly moley people go to Jags Games.
    L.A. Jags Baby”
    @TampaBayBucs7-9
    I’de be concerned about your very own
    Tampa Bay F#ckingqu33rs!
    Not even CLOSE to selling out game one and many blackouts on the horizon in 2010!!

  68. bad asset says: Sep 9, 2010 5:01 PM

    Typical slimy tactic by a typical slimy corporate douche.

  69. kristoff says: Sep 9, 2010 5:18 PM

    Fujita’s farewell tour in the NFL begins sunday. he will be black-balled till the end of time. sorry buddy.

  70. Matt says: Sep 9, 2010 5:52 PM

    # realityonetwo says: September 9, 2010 2:22 PM
    Interesting. I grew up 40 minutes away from Washington, Pa., but I never heard it referred to as “Little Washington.”
    ********************************************
    Growing up, I’d heard the “Little Washington” reference a few times, both from people in my immediate area (Peters Township/Canonsburg) as well as from suburbs on other sides of Pittsburgh. Funny thing, however, is that Little Washington, PA is an actual town outside Downingtown in Chester County. Thus, the reference is somewhat confusing.
    Either way, I came away asking myself why the mention of “Little Washington” adds anything to this story.

  71. gruntersdad says: Sep 9, 2010 6:11 PM

    If Florida’s Panhandle is called ‘The Redneck Riviera’ then what pray tell is the one in West Virginny called?
    It’s called that because of the Alabama people who vacation there, not because of who lives there. The one in West Virginia is called the panhandle. you have obviously never been there and get your info from the same source Florio gets his.

  72. gruntersdad says: Sep 9, 2010 6:18 PM

    If Florida’s Panhandle is called ‘The Redneck Riviera’ then what pray tell is the one in West Virginny called?
    It’s called that because of the Alabama people who vacation there, not because of who lives there. The one in West Virginia is called the panhandle. you have obviously never been there and get your info from the same source Florio gets his.

  73. Hap says: Sep 9, 2010 6:50 PM

    I agree with Fujita’s Q’s. RG should be able to tell them what the owners want. This is not sounding good. The NFL is GREAT, but I promise you they dont wanna miss any part of any season. I promise. They need fannies in seats now. THAT would hurt a lot worse than any opf us imagine, methinx.

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