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Lions lose as apparent Calvin Johnson game-winner is incomplete

With just seconds remaining in the game and Chicago beating Detroit 19-14, Lions receiver Calvin Johnson appeared to make a beautiful game-winning touchdown catch in the end zone.

But after the official on the field who appeared to have the best view of the play ruled a touchdown, a second official came in and said that Johnson hadn’t maintained control of the ball. The referee then reviewed the replay and confirmed the ruling on the field of an incomplete pass.

Two more Lions passes fell incomplete after that, and the Bears held on to win. Bears fans celebrated; Lions fans thought they just got ripped off.

The rule in question came up in September of last year, when Louis Murphy of the Raiders caught what many fans thought was a touchdown, but was ruled incomplete. Mike Pereira, then the head of NFL officiating, defended the officials’ ruling. Pereira now works for FOX, and he said during the Lions-Bears broadcast that incomplete pass was the correct ruling.

The rule in question states, “If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.”

To everyone who saw Johnson’s non-catch, tell us what you think in the comments: Did the officials get this one right? Or were the Lions screwed out of a game-winning touchdown?

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350 Responses to “Lions lose as apparent Calvin Johnson game-winner is incomplete”
  1. sandibalz says: Sep 12, 2010 4:25 PM

    screwed

  2. GaziVicious says: Sep 12, 2010 4:26 PM

    Detroit was robbed. These refs have no clue. No clue. NFL needs to address this

  3. Deacon Blues says: Sep 12, 2010 4:26 PM

    The NFL is stupid.
    catch.
    contact.
    buttocks on the ground.
    play over.
    unless you are a moron in the league office.
    this goes right with the Sam Gako saftey – er fumble – er holding penalty – er um, well imcomplete pass in Lions lore.

  4. Ytsejamer1 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:26 PM

    this type of thing comes up after every close catch that is bobbled in the process. It’s really up to the guy watching the replay and what he feels like calling.
    I’ve seen 100%-certain catches reversed, and certain non-catches upheld as catches…so who knows.

  5. GoBears84 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:27 PM

    As an honest football fan, Detroit got screwed. Chicago didn’t deserve to win the game, and I feel that when he landed on his back/side and was sliding with the ball being controlled in megatrons grasp, at that time the play should have been considered dead. Especially since if he were to have caught it on the one yard line, as soon as the ball crossed the line the play would have been dead. Just my opinion..

  6. simple_simon1 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:28 PM

    I don’t care what the rule says. This was bogus and I’ve been calling for this rule to be changed since I first saw it last year. It’s these grey area rules that are ruining the NFL. It’s horrible. The Lions got completely ripped off today. He didn’t lose the ball as he went to the ground. He lost the ball as he dropped it to get up and celebrate. The Bears just got handed the football game.

  7. sonicjizzmopper says: Sep 12, 2010 4:28 PM

    I feel bad for Johnson, but a rule is a rule. Might want to review that rule though…

  8. badger fan says: Sep 12, 2010 4:28 PM

    it was a terrible call. megatron clearly caught the call… the refs may have gone by the literal version of the rule but without a doubt he had it.

  9. theycallme_iPod says: Sep 12, 2010 4:28 PM

    They got robbed!
    Complete pass, f*ck the refs!
    Coming from a non-Lions fan…

  10. Hunnes says: Sep 12, 2010 4:28 PM

    It’s a joke. Catching the ball has become an exercise in lawyer-induced semantics (no offense, Florio). The guy caught the ball and landed on the ground. I could care less about the outcome of this game – that was a catch.

  11. lions apologist says: Sep 12, 2010 4:28 PM

    Absolutely unbelievable. “The Process” steals a win from the Lions. I’m starting to think there’s some sort of conspiricy against us. Two feet in, both hands on the ball, HITS THE GROUND, and still no completion?
    Someone’s got some explaining to do.

  12. BearsMeng says: Sep 12, 2010 4:28 PM

    DA BEARS!!! That is a cheap call.

  13. LionsPlayoffs2011 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:29 PM

    No words can describe how sad that call made me. It was awful.

  14. tedskro says: Sep 12, 2010 4:29 PM

    As a big time lions fan i was speechless I always say “how can they lose it this time” I think this one topped it all two feet in his ass and thigh in he puts the ball down for s##ts and gigs and thats it huh? Well a new way for the Lions to lose I guess maybe now ive seen it all…. but probably not
    Get well Matt

  15. jecates says: Sep 12, 2010 4:29 PM

    As a Titans fan, I have no skin in this game. But he was screwed. He clearly had possession all the way to the ground, he just hadn’t stopped sliding on his but yet.

  16. simple_simon1 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:29 PM

    CHANGE THIS STUPID RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. Patrick says: Sep 12, 2010 4:30 PM

    By rule ..the Zebra’s got it right…sucks… i still say 2 feet a hand and an asscheek should be a TD tho…

  18. Viking Kong says: Sep 12, 2010 4:30 PM

    The Lions got hoses. That is a bad rule.

  19. 6ringSteelers says: Sep 12, 2010 4:30 PM

    It wasn’t a TD catch at all and the Bears win…just as much as George W Bush was “appointed” the 2000 presidency election and “beat” Gore.
    Sure glad i’m not a Lions fan…they just got royaly screwed. Johnson had two feet down and maintained possession. The Bears were “awarded” the victory…

  20. Bill.Polian says: Sep 12, 2010 4:30 PM

    There is no way you can watch that play and say it isn’t a touchdown but the NFL has some of the dumbest rules ever.

  21. JuicyMelon says: Sep 12, 2010 4:30 PM

    Hate to say that teams get screwed, but that was a Touchdown! There is no way that it wasn’t a touchdown.
    On a side note, although it sounded like a good idea in the pre-season, Mike Pereira is only good for defending the Refs every action. I have watched him on the NFL network games and now on Fox and he has never gone against the Refs calls. Yeah Mike I get that those are your boys, but sometimes they are wrong.

  22. G-man says: Sep 12, 2010 4:30 PM

    Johnson had control all of the way THROUGH the catch–even after his entire body hit the ground.
    That is an absolute GARBAGE call. Bring on the strike. This league is a joke–I don’t even care any more.

  23. bills9951 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:31 PM

    BS. that WAS a catch

  24. exactlyright21 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:31 PM

    Worst call of the season so far.. Sorry Detroit fans, I was rooting for you today!

  25. vande1kr says: Sep 12, 2010 4:31 PM

    They got screwed…
    Calvin caught the ball took two steps, fell to his left hip and after he had already fell on his hip he put his hand down with the ball which then squirted out.

  26. Visnovsky says: Sep 12, 2010 4:31 PM

    This rule is asinine. In reality, Calvin Johnson caught that pass, and the only definition that says it was not a catch is the idiotic rule that the NFL uses. Change the rule.

  27. imdone says: Sep 12, 2010 4:31 PM

    It’s like that Supreme Court Justice said, “I can’t define pornography, but I know it when I see it.” I know what a TD is when I see it…and that was a TD. The Lions got screwed like no other.

  28. Lavasse says: Sep 12, 2010 4:32 PM

    Lions got screwed. He only let go of the ball to get up to celebrate. It was a totally seperate act then the catch and the refs were too dumb to realize it. Screw them!

  29. Pea Tear Griffin says: Sep 12, 2010 4:32 PM

    Screwed, big time.

  30. schroeder says: Sep 12, 2010 4:32 PM

    This is why the NFL is becoming like baseball… They need to let them play and change the bad calls… This was a TD and they over thought it.. I mean he had both feet in and turned over slams the ball on the ground and loses it… Terrible.. One call I notice that is even a couple of seconds were he doesnt have the ball (any team any player) im gonna fill the nfl’s mail box with mail… what a bunch of jerks…

  31. Benny says: Sep 12, 2010 4:32 PM

    I’m a bears fan, and I HATED winning like that. I feel sick…like when they went 0-4 from the 1 inch line…

  32. odds75to1 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:32 PM

    UM 2 feet down and he landed on his ASS with possesion – think that is down. How many body parts do you have to touch the ground with? and how can you simply cross the plane and fly outta bounds and its a TD but that was not?
    Even the TE for the vikings thought it was a TD and we were robbed… screw you NFL refs

  33. Boudin says: Sep 12, 2010 4:32 PM

    i heard Brad Childress has Megatron on his fantasy team. you can guarantee we’ll be hearing from him…

  34. thedoan says: Sep 12, 2010 4:33 PM

    Maybe the call is right but it still blows. Bears deserved to lose anyway.

  35. Vikefanman says: Sep 12, 2010 4:33 PM

    The Lions got hosed on that call. If that “is” the rule….then the rule needs to be changed.

  36. Rbell2123 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:33 PM

    The Lions got screwed, and on the next play should have been pass interference that the refs diddn’t call. total screw job by officials!

  37. zangy says: Sep 12, 2010 4:33 PM

    Lions got screwed! If anything, he hit the ground with possession of the ball and his left hand was out of bounds, THEN right hand w/ ball came down and ball was let go.
    Should have been a TD.

  38. bills9951 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:33 PM

    as a grieving bills fan i would just like to thank the lions and bears for providing more excitement in 5 minutes then the bills did all day.

  39. sparty says: Sep 12, 2010 4:33 PM

    By the letter of the rule, it was not a catch, which shows that the rule sucks! However, Johnson could have pulled the ball into his body and it would have been a catch. The Lions should not have been surprised. They should make sure their team, their receivers know the rules.

  40. Rachor says: Sep 12, 2010 4:33 PM

    He landed before ‘going to the ground.’
    Regardless, he used one and two hands to completely control the ball. By letter of the law, he didn’t control it through his fall, but I have no doubt he had caught that ball after 47 replays.

  41. Um...yeah says: Sep 12, 2010 4:34 PM

    The Lions were screwed, big time.

  42. fkaJames says: Sep 12, 2010 4:34 PM

    I’m a Vikings fan, but that was just wrong. I don’t care what the rules say, Calvin Johnson scored. This is the kind of crap that makes me lose interest in the NFL.

  43. Bearfan54 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:34 PM

    I am a Bear fan but this was a touchdown pass that was wrongly called an incompletion. Don’t get me wrong I am really glad the Bears won but when a runner runs into the endzone and breaks the plane of the goal line and then fumbles it is ruled a touchdown. Johnson had both feet down and his ass and it was ruled incomplete. Lions fans got robbed.

  44. Smoke&Mirrors says: Sep 12, 2010 4:34 PM

    The Lions were ripped off. That was a catch, a td, and a win.
    In what other level of football would that NOT be a catch? None.
    The NFL is quickly eroding the game through administrative rule adaptations which are found no where else in the game (and thus do not belong in the game of football).
    Unbelievable.

  45. Rashard Mendenballs says: Sep 12, 2010 4:34 PM

    My Lions got screwed with this call; it was very clear that he maintained control of the catch from the time he caught it, to when he hit the ground.

  46. Chiefbobrector says: Sep 12, 2010 4:34 PM

    No question, Lions got screwed. Bad rule that needs to be changed, or bad call, either way, Lions won that game, and the Bears know it.

  47. Beer Cheese Soup says: Sep 12, 2010 4:34 PM

    “Lions fans thought they just got ripped off.”
    ____________
    There are still Lions fans?
    Really??

  48. lionswin says: Sep 12, 2010 4:34 PM

    The Lions were screwed and the NFL is ruining the game of football. There so called rules are making it where players can’t do anything I mean just touching a QB’s helmet or head is a 15 yard penalty. NFL may stand for “Not for long” if this crap keeps happening.

  49. djlions20 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:34 PM

    it’s pretty obvious it was a touchdown. worst blown call i have ever seen

  50. danielcp0303 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:35 PM

    catch was already complete, he was using the ball to stand up…touchdown

  51. rackman20 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:35 PM

    I’m not a lions fan but I think they got screwed…obviously a TD.

  52. BeerBaron says: Sep 12, 2010 4:35 PM

    As a Bears fan, I’m glad we won, but that is an awful rule. I expect the controversy it’s sure to spark to lead to an eventual rewriting of it.

  53. Stuber says: Sep 12, 2010 4:35 PM

    I think Calvin Johnson’s 3 steps, knee to the ground, ass to the ground, hand on the ground, and 4th step to stand back up should be enough for a TD before he let’s go of the ball. The NFL over-legislated this one.

  54. Rick Wilson says: Sep 12, 2010 4:35 PM

    The Lions got boned. . . hard. Two feet down, holding the ball with one hand. Put the ball on the ground to celebrate. What a B.S. rule.

  55. iuubob says: Sep 12, 2010 4:35 PM

    Tough call, but a proper interpretation of the rule

  56. hats says: Sep 12, 2010 4:35 PM

    Probably the correct call on a stupid rule.

  57. kingmj4891 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:35 PM

    BS play Lions won that game refs gave it to the Bears. Officials got it wrong. Watch the replay Calvin had the ball and was down then placed the ball as he was getting up. BS on the refs part. Lions screwed once again after their Defense was playing well with Stafford out.

  58. Nagasakee says: Sep 12, 2010 4:36 PM

    it was an obvious TD. Change the rule…the Lions got jobbed here;

  59. GBfanForever says: Sep 12, 2010 4:36 PM

    terrible call, the lions were truly robbed.

  60. G-man says: Sep 12, 2010 4:36 PM

    Again, the guy NEVER lost control of the ball. From the peak of his jump all the way through hitting the ground with his entire body, he had complete control of the ball.
    The rule only applies if the receiver “loses control of the ball.” Watch the replay from every angle–he always has complete control.

  61. Vito says: Sep 12, 2010 4:36 PM

    I think this is form over substance. This would be write by the letter of the rule, but not the spirit of it. He went to the ground and did not maintain possession all the way through. He had possession the whole time and it looked like he was putting his hand down to try and get up and celebrate, no longer worrying about how long he had to hold on to the ball. He tried to use the ball to stand up. By the spirit of the rule, the Lions got screwed. There should be a little more freedom with that rule, especially in a situation where it’s obvious that he caught and was already moving on to the celebration after the play. It’s difficult way to teach the player not to celebrate in any way until well after the play is over, but I don’t know how you get them to hold back all emotion on a play like that.

  62. Danalitman says: Sep 12, 2010 4:36 PM

    Aweful call!

  63. StillaRita says: Sep 12, 2010 4:36 PM

    screwed big time

  64. greenmachine says: Sep 12, 2010 4:36 PM

    robbed

  65. Dick Gozinia says: Sep 12, 2010 4:36 PM

    The Lions were screwed royally. The NFL is a miserable stinking joke. After a lifetime of misery as a Lions fan, I’m done with the NFL. It just doesn’t matter anymore.

  66. Yak says: Sep 12, 2010 4:37 PM

    As a Vikings fan, the Lions got S-C-R-E-W-E-D!!! Horrible call, he had 2 feet down, 1 hand, hip, knee and body before he braced himself with the ball hand before it cam loose. Lions got robbed out of 1 of their possbile 3 wins this season!!

  67. jackers252 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:37 PM

    Horrible rule that needs to be fixed. Right there with the tuck rule.
    That definitely took away from the game…

  68. nikuk says: Sep 12, 2010 4:37 PM

    It appears that by next season all catches will be incomplete unless the player does a Two-step with a left footed twist while singing ‘You are my sunshine’
    That should’ve been a catch.

  69. Daniel C says: Sep 12, 2010 4:37 PM

    Yes, the Lions got completely screwed out of a game-winning touchdown. Phil Simms: “That was a catch if I’ve ever seen a catch” – he’s played in the league and watches tons of game, I trust his opinion.
    Another thing, if you look at the catch, he is in the act of getting up and using the hand with the ball in it to help himself get up, therefore he maintained possession of the ball on the way to the ground, this whole “process of the catch” is a bunch of bullshit! Use some discretion Mr. Idiot Referee! And if you make a controversial call, why not call pass interference on the next play to even things up because CJ clearly was interfered with on 3rd and 10, the very next play!

  70. Garcia86 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:37 PM

    This is one ridiculous rule. CJ caught the ball and landed with control. According to the rule book I guess it wasn’t a catch. So the book must be wrong because it was a catch in my eyes.

  71. TJess623 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:37 PM

    Not a Lions fan, but they got screwed. It was appearent that Johnson was just getting up off the ground when he let go of the ball. What is wrong with the officials? A little common sense would be great along with the “rules”.

  72. Because I Care says: Sep 12, 2010 4:37 PM

    There’s a difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. Unfortunately the NFL will never realize this.

  73. jsmackers86 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:37 PM

    The Lions were screwed.
    The rule doesn’t apply if the receiver makes a move after obtaining possession before going to the ground, and that’s what happened. Johnson obtained possession, got both feet down, spun away from the defender and then fell to the ground.
    I’d be curious to see how the review would have turned out if they had stuck with the initial ruling of a touchdown. I doubt it would have been overturned, and I’m sick of the ref right in front of the play being overruled by someone halfway across the field.
    That also looked like PI to me on the following play.

  74. Olbermanisadouche says: Sep 12, 2010 4:37 PM

    A complete travesty…the bears were given a win they didn’t deserve.

  75. topcide says: Sep 12, 2010 4:37 PM

    garbage call

  76. ClownBurger says: Sep 12, 2010 4:38 PM

    The process of catching the ball was OVER!
    He was using the ball to raise up off the ground AFTER he clearly caught it.
    The process of the catch was over. It was CLEARLY over.

  77. RedLeg15 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:38 PM

    That was a TD. Didn’t see the raiders catch last year. What I saw was a TD.

  78. Tim says: Sep 12, 2010 4:38 PM

    Ugh… Well they got it right based on the rule. But someone sure f’d up the rule because that was a catch. If I’m a casual fan, I’m confused as hell. Even with the Pereira explanation. The “process”?? What? It’s a catch or it’s not a catch. Stupid.

  79. Kevin Huxford says: Sep 12, 2010 4:38 PM

    The Lions were screwed. He had clear control/possession of the ball before he ever let it go. I think the officials had clear room to interpret that possession was gained.

  80. lpbowen says: Sep 12, 2010 4:38 PM

    Lions got screwed. After a tough day for the offense and a stronger than expected day from the defense, it was a terrible call to end the game.

  81. Azcardinal32 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:38 PM

    Yes, the rule applies. but theres a point where common sense should be applied.. its pretty clear that Calvin actually caught the ball and wouldve held onto it

  82. csloan99 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:38 PM

    I don’t know or care what the rule is. But if that’s not a catch, then I must have been watching some game other than football.

  83. Herman says: Sep 12, 2010 4:38 PM

    It was an obvious touchdown. The man caught it with both hands in the air and came down with both feet will inbounds. Usually that’s enough, so he spiked it and gave the refs reason to take the TD away. It’s nonsense, the only ones who think that’s not a TD are the refs, everyone else on earth knows it’s a TD.

  84. Sparlimb says: Sep 12, 2010 4:39 PM

    The Lions got screwed. I don’t care what the stuupid rule is, that was a catch. He took a good two steps in the end zone as he went down. This ruling needs to go away and it really mars a great opening day for the Lions. Bears fans should be ashamed. Your qb sucks, your coach was outcoached by Brian Billick (and he was announcing) and you have no running game. Get ready for 6-10.

  85. Lionzroar1 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:39 PM

    The Lions got screwed on this one. Calvin made a nice catch, maintained possession…and appeared to rid himself of the ball to celebrate. The officials called it incomplete…what a horrible call.
    As a lions fan, there always seems to be a new way to lose/get screwed.

  86. Az Lions Man says: Sep 12, 2010 4:39 PM

    This is the most ridiculous call ever. 2 feet down, control of the ball, anyone seeing the play knows this was a touchdown.

  87. Dave says: Sep 12, 2010 4:39 PM

    Lions got screwed. That’s the gayest rule ever. He caught the ball, got two feet down, one knee, and one butt cheek…good catch!!

  88. ttommy00 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:39 PM

    To hands on the ball and two feet down….check
    Total control as CJ’s hip is down to the ground…..check
    Maintain control with the ball all the way to the ground…check.
    Cj let go of the ball as the ball hit the ground….the ref three feet away calls it a TD only for a ref who was way out of position to come and over rule.
    I realize that my team has not been very good for the last decade and for that reason we don’t get the benefit of many calls…..but this makes me want to stop watching at all. Cancel my direct ticket subscription because what’s the point?
    Even when they play their hearts out an win the game on the field the NFL finds a way to take it out of the players hands. Let’s give it to the team who been historically better and sells more jerseys.
    But hey….it’s only the lions

  89. njdaniel8838 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:39 PM

    should’ve been a TD

  90. bigmike79 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:39 PM

    They got it totally wrong his left knee hit the ground before the ball popped out.

  91. incognito says: Sep 12, 2010 4:40 PM

    Are you sh*****g me! I’m not a Lions fan, but that was the most horrible ruling ever, in a league that’s had plenty of them. He must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground? Did the officials actually watch the play? That’s enough to make a person turn off the TV and do yardwork.

  92. AlCortez says: Sep 12, 2010 4:40 PM

    Screwed.
    I get how complex “a catch” can be to define, but to override the obvious is just wrong.
    A win is a win, but if the Bears feel good about that one, they really weren’t paying attention.

  93. mw says: Sep 12, 2010 4:40 PM

    That was a catch, pure and simple.
    What’s the meaning of “control”? Johnson had so much control of the ball he could have taken out a sharpie with his other hand and signed his name on the ball.
    The rules are destroying the game because they’ve taken away the refs’ ability to exercise human discretion.

  94. Grizzlygroundhog says: Sep 12, 2010 4:40 PM

    As a Die Hard Lions fan… this was so difficult to watch, Calvin Caught the ball, had 2 feet in bounds got both knees down, his buttocks hit the ground and went to get up to celebrate then the ball came out.
    It only happens to Detroit or Cleveland i guess

  95. ShaggyDoc says: Sep 12, 2010 4:40 PM

    The NFL is a complete JOKE if this is NOT a touchdown. With rulings like this I’d be fine if the league locks out and folds. So the next time a receiver spikes the ball after a catch, is that going to be called incomplete as well? Why bother wasting time with this product? Complete BS!

  96. Brick Tamland says: Sep 12, 2010 4:40 PM

    Screwed. That’s a catch.

  97. CanadianVikingFan says: Sep 12, 2010 4:40 PM

    Should of been the game winner.

  98. downwithdansnyder says: Sep 12, 2010 4:40 PM

    It doesn’t matter. The game is over and the result is final.

  99. dlions8708 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:40 PM

    It’s not even a question. When “football” has come down to whether the guy got up with the ball after clearly letting it go on purpose, its a joke. thanks, thats now 2 refs that have ruined huge games for Detroit sports teams in the same year. First on the perfect game for the Tigers, now the first road win in 3 years. thanks for the great call!

  100. GoLions says: Sep 12, 2010 4:40 PM

    BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT!!!!!!!
    BUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLSHIIIIIIITTTT

  101. jayshook says: Sep 12, 2010 4:40 PM

    Biggest horses*** call in the history of the nfl I am one bad call away from switching exclusively to college what a terrible call.

  102. eddie01 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:41 PM

    No excuses. Calvin should have pull the ball in.
    Instead he started to celebrate before his feet were under him.
    Until the rule is changed, you have to follow the rules.
    Calvin blew the game because he wanted to strut and in so doing let his team and the town down.

  103. cs_foodie says: Sep 12, 2010 4:41 PM

    this rule is getting ridiculous.

  104. Chris says: Sep 12, 2010 4:41 PM

    SCREWED!!! Calvin caught the ball got 2 feet down, held the ball in one hand as he hit the ground in the end zone and maintained control. Ref signals TD. Then they over turn it and call incomplete? What do you have to do to catch a TD in the NFL these days?

  105. schiebs says: Sep 12, 2010 4:41 PM

    Seriously, at what point does he “lose control”? He was getting up and the ball comes out. You could almost say that he just let the ball come out!
    What if a receiver is on the ground, stays on the ground and gives the ball up because he is down? It’s a catch. But when a receiver is getting up in the endzone to celebrate it’s incomplete? That is a bull *&*& call and that Pereira knows it. He didn’t even want to call it incomplete at first because he didn’t know.

  106. collestat says: Sep 12, 2010 4:41 PM

    I’m a huge Bears fan but even I thought Detroit got robbed on that one. Johnson had control of the ball all the way through the catch. He had 2 feet down and then went down to his butt and still had control (one handed). It appeared that after the ball touched the ground that he just let go of it because he had already scored. He had control the whole time, this was not a case of the catch being fumbled around in his hands.

  107. toonster says: Sep 12, 2010 4:41 PM

    I admit, as a Bears fan, I thought that was a touchdown, and I thought it was a heck of a throw and catch. I understand the rule, and I’m sure it was the right call, but Calvin looked to have control of the ball. It’ll be a lesson learned for Calvin – looking at it, it seemed like he could’ve pulled the ball away from the ground..

  108. NFL4EVER says: Sep 12, 2010 4:41 PM

    Horrible call, he caught and came down with the ball, he obviously let the ball go on his own, not due to the impact of the catch.

  109. pga5 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:41 PM

    Johnson’s catch was like Louis Murphy’s play at the start of last season. Both should have counted, but the officials interpreted it correctly.
    Lions get jobbed, but that’s football.

  110. vikingshuff says: Sep 12, 2010 4:42 PM

    The worst call I’ve ever seen in my entire life at any level! He had possession and was getting up to celebrate, since when is getting up after a catch part of the process? Lions got screwed!

  111. MarvIllis says: Sep 12, 2010 4:42 PM

    He had clear control of the ball when he hit the ground. He rolled over and used the ball and the hand holding the ball to push himself back up to run away and celebrate. Is he supposed to move the ball to the other arm cradle it, stand up, then drop the ball before he can leave the endzone? Should all touchdown catches like this require the receiver to kip up and never use their arms again?
    I think this ruling was ridiculous.

  112. Trent says: Sep 12, 2010 4:42 PM

    If anyone thinks that was the right call they must be a Bears fan. The lions got ROYALY SCREWED!!!!!!

  113. tcgreenmn says: Sep 12, 2010 4:42 PM

    This was something you never see happen in Africa……Zebras screwing Lions.

  114. falconfan58 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:43 PM

    This was by far the worst call that I have ever seen. I am not a Lions fan but I am so disgusted as a diehard football fan that the NFL would make such a Bulls**t call that I am done watching football today! I keep hearing all of these so called experts on tv talking about how it was the right call but as Shiancoe said they are just jumping on the nfls jock! Anyone of these dbags would be arguing the other way if they were on the field with Calvin Johnson.

  115. mwatso28 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:43 PM

    Suck it up and take it like a man! The lions lost and the Bears won. That’s life…you take the good with the bad. The Lions messed with the bull one too many times and got the horns. Too bad. (I’m loving it!) haha

  116. iamalionsguy says: Sep 12, 2010 4:43 PM

    That was a bad call. He was clearly in and down. Both feet and rump, touchdown. Terrible call, the move after the catch was a secondary move. He scored, Chicago lost. They should feel blessed.

  117. steelers rule says: Sep 12, 2010 4:43 PM

    2 feet, 1 hand and his ass on the ground but incomplete? The review ref needs to be investigated! He is either a Bears fan, had money on game or even worse, his fantasy opponent started Calvin Johnson!

  118. Dhouser999 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:43 PM

    Plain & Simple. The League Hates the Lions!!!

  119. orangecrushd13 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:43 PM

    Another one of the f’d up rules. In my book, that was a clear touchdown.

  120. dr4iz says: Sep 12, 2010 4:44 PM

    Two feet and a knee down…Incomplete?….No, ROBBED!

  121. jetsfan says: Sep 12, 2010 4:44 PM

    of course it was a catch

  122. Blackheld says: Sep 12, 2010 4:44 PM

    Yup, clearly the referee called a “look at us!” penalty…one called just to show off the officials. Johnson never lost control of the ball, and was clearly down with the ball securely in his hand, and the closest official with the clearest view ruled it a touchdown..
    God forbid the NFL ever let the Lions actually earn a deserved win…it’s clear the head official had his orders.

  123. GrogansNeck says: Sep 12, 2010 4:44 PM

    Call is correct, rule is ridiculous. Everyone watching knows that should be a TD – the rule is just stupid. NFL gets further from common sense every time they try to “fix” the pass completion rule.

  124. Chris says: Sep 12, 2010 4:44 PM

    SCREWED!!!

  125. azlionsfan says: Sep 12, 2010 4:44 PM

    I hope Mike Pereira and anyone else that is of the same ilk gets gangraped by rabbid baracudas.
    What a garbage rule. Why do idiots like him continue to make under-arching rules because of specific plays. Why can’t officials be allowed to watch a replay and make their own determination as whether there is possesion.
    In this case the fact that the ball came out of Johnson’s hand as he was getting up was irrellevant. There was clear control all the way to the ground. Even my 6 yr old boy couldn’t understand why that wasn’t a catch.

  126. Lionfreq says: Sep 12, 2010 4:44 PM

    Without a doubt they got screwed. He NEVER lost control of the ball. He let go of the ball when he started to stand up. My God, what else do you have to do? He’s being penalized for being able to control the ball with one hand.

  127. pudgalvin says: Sep 12, 2010 4:44 PM

    Bears fan here. I think its a terrible rule but the right call. Im guessing most Lions fans will choose to ignore the 2 handed push in the back by Johnson that led to the “reception.”
    About 7 years ago, the Bears lost a game to the Lions on the last play of the game due to the exact same call, so i don’t have a ton of sympathy.
    I think the bigger issue here as a bears fan is how on god’s green earth does Johnson ends up with single coverage on that play?

  128. Kyle H says: Sep 12, 2010 4:45 PM

    This was a bad call.
    He set the ball down. He did not lose control.
    Just an awful call.

  129. caveman1223 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:45 PM

    The Lions definitely got hosed. I believe Brian Billick made the point that if a RB runs the ball in it’s considered a TD as soon as he breaks the plane of the goal line. How is it different for a passing play? Johnson had the ball, then palmed the ball as he was going to the ground. He did not lose control of it until he got up to celebrate his TD.
    No matter how you cut it, the Lions got hosed.

  130. revconmusic says: Sep 12, 2010 4:45 PM

    Screwed

  131. GoLions says: Sep 12, 2010 4:46 PM

    BULLSH$T BULLSH$T BULLSH$T BULLSH$T BULLSH$T BULLSH$T BULLSH$T BULLSH$T BULLSH$T BULLSH$T
    That’s okay, Lions defense was stout even with Stafford out nearly entire game, took a crap call for the Bears to win. Lions on the way up baby!! Look out NFL, what in the world are you going to do when the Lions are the talk to the town? Oh No!!!! Defense?????? In Detroit?? WTF?

  132. DrewD says: Sep 12, 2010 4:46 PM

    Screwed badly. He always had control of the pass. There was no doubt that was a complete catch for a game winning touchdown. I have been a long time Lions fan and while they have been bad. I mean really bad, they have been screwed so many times by officials it’s pathetic. Another case of it. Until they can win consistently, I guess it will continue to happen.

  133. DETROITWHAT says: Sep 12, 2010 4:46 PM

    Most BS call ever. Talk about a rule that needs to be changed. If a ball carrier breaks the plane the ball can get knocked around and it’s still a score but a receiver’s feet and knees come down, he’s touched and then essentially puts the ball on the ground to get up. So crap.

  134. Gibbon Randolph says: Sep 12, 2010 4:46 PM

    That was a BS call.

  135. 8man says: Sep 12, 2010 4:47 PM

    The NFL refs suck. They just screwed their first team of the year. I wonder who gets it next week.
    That said, there are simply too many qualifying factors for a catch. I’m amazed anyone completes a pass anymore.
    Ridiculous!

  136. mohicanbob says: Sep 12, 2010 4:47 PM

    Absolutely rediculous! If this were not the winning touchdown we all know this would have been ruled a catch. This was a rediculous call in my eyes. I’m sure even a Bears fan would agree that Johnson and the lions were ripped off.

  137. J. Clayton says: Sep 12, 2010 4:47 PM

    Dude it was like team USA in the word cup

  138. darwinsbeatch says: Sep 12, 2010 4:47 PM

    total bull. He clearly had possession, he held it with 1 hand WHILE he bounced on his butt..turned over and used the hand holding the ball to get up and it squirted out.

  139. purple4life says: Sep 12, 2010 4:47 PM

    They were screwed – royally.
    If the ball crosses the plane of the goal line, its a TD.
    He obviously was not trying to advance the play. He was in the back of the end zone. Its a joke and the Bears should give up that game in the standings.
    Terrible.

  140. ClownBurger says: Sep 12, 2010 4:48 PM

    Apparently the referees don’t realize the difference between the process of catching a ball and the process of standing up.
    He caught the ball. Touchdown. The process of the catch was over.
    He then began the process of standing up. Anything that happened after that is moot because the process of the catch was COMPLETE! It was OVER! DONE! TOUCHDOWN!
    The Lions just got the shaft because of the way Calvin Johnson decided to rise up off of the ground.
    WOW! What a joke!

  141. Pervy H. says: Sep 12, 2010 4:48 PM

    Like a young girl in a bathroom stall with Boner Ben …yes…the Lions got SCREWED ! A disgrace to the NFL…

  142. air10 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:49 PM

    You catch the ball, you get two feet, a knee, a hand, your body all down in the endzone, he PUTS the ball on the ground and stands up, and its incomplete…what is he supposed to do? Hold the ball all the way to the sideline?
    Bears know they came out on the lucky side of that one.
    Now lets hope that Stafford is ok and can be back next week

  143. greenwhite35 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:49 PM

    Pereira’s misinterpreting the rule. Johnson was no longer “in the act of catching” the pass. He’d already caught it. He possessed the ball and got both feet (and at least one knee) in bounds, all while in possession of the ball. Only after the catch had been completed did the ball touch the turf. The rule also equates the end zone with the field of play, but find me one official who would have ruled that incomplete anywhere except in the end zone.

  144. NY Olive says: Sep 12, 2010 4:50 PM

    Aww, the NFL no longer has a Portuguese guy to take a beating, making excuses for the refs. Let’s see how the replacement does. That was a touchdown.

  145. kingmj4891 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:50 PM

    I marking this still a win as far as progress. The NFL REF have this one on their hands. I hope Detroit uses this to motivate them for the rest of the season. Bears are lucky this time but I hope we cream them when they come to Ford Field. Defense played good. Offense was not so good but I hope Matt is alright so we can really see what they can do.

  146. bigfan27 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:52 PM

    The officials either got it wrong, or this particular rule should not stand. If the rule states that when a player catches a ball in the end zone, that they must maintain control through the entirety of the catch and not loose control before being completely down, then it should have been a touchdown and therefore the call was bad. he caught the ball and touched it with both hands. He then proceeded to get both feet down, and from that point if he stumbled out the back of the endzone it would have still been a touchdown. NOW…. He goes down and his butt and back and other hand not touching the ball anymore all touched the ground. Then he put the ball on the ground to support himself while he rolled over to get up and run out the back of the endzone. As he was getting up he let the ball stay there to run out the back of the endzone from excitement. T-O-U-C-H-D-O-W-N Detroit Lions. They win…yay….right? wrong… The officials decided to take it back even after the official standing next to him said touchdown. Next time a guy is running and falls at the goal line with only his hand and ball across the goal line and he looses the ball from the ground, the call should then be the same. What about when a player is pushed out near the endzone out of bounds and his hand and ball hit the corner pylon…? That is always considered a TD even if the ball or him does not actually touch the grass in the end zone. So if the Oxygen hovering above the endzone is enough to grant a touchdown even if the ball doesn’t touch the turf, then what Calvin Johnson had happen to him on that play is what we call getting screwed over. I bet this play wont even be reviewed much after this because of the embarrassment it causes the officiating crew and the nfl for such a ridiculous rule… UNBELIEVABLE! I guess like some of the announcers said after this play was seen, you better start hanging on to the ball till the following Tuesday.

  147. usobbt says: Sep 12, 2010 4:52 PM

    I hope all those lousy refs read these comments. How can so many observers NOT wearing the zebra suits realize the Lions were SCREWED, and not the bozos on the field?

  148. joetoronto says: Sep 12, 2010 4:52 PM

    I get it now, you have to have control all the way to your car, or else it’s incomplete.

  149. DarkAge4BearsFans says: Sep 12, 2010 4:53 PM

    I’m a Bears fan, but this was a bullshit call.

  150. rackman20 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:53 PM

    Great catch! That was one of the worst calls ever! Even with a review they got it wrong…was he supposed to hold the ball all the way to the locker room?

  151. aceboogie says: Sep 12, 2010 4:53 PM

    If Peyton Manning was the quarterback it would’ve been a touchdown. The Lion’s got reamed, no lube.

  152. rovibe says: Sep 12, 2010 4:53 PM

    RESTORE THE SORE! Bring bag the Brown Bag Brigade!

  153. RyanHarris says: Sep 12, 2010 4:54 PM

    I suppose they interpreted the rule properly, which means its an absurd rule.
    If there is no common sense clause that a ref can say, “sorry, thats a TD” then they almost need to start from scratch. Maybe with the lockout they will have time to do something smart about these rules.
    Sorry Detroit, you got screwed.

  154. JaggedMark says: Sep 12, 2010 4:54 PM

    Why is a running back allowed to just reach the ball over the line (without his body), and then if he pulls the ball back and fumbles, it’s still a TD?
    Yet this wasn’t a TD. It’s bullshit.

  155. CYGNUS X-1 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:54 PM

    sure it was td but as bears fan glad they made the call. what a shock pft doesn’t agree and I am sure bears hater in charge florio will have a big column about the difference between this and the oakland game last year but as he likes to point out when it supports his view a rule is a rule.

  156. Vikings_rube says: Sep 12, 2010 4:56 PM

    Lions got hosed. We have been trained into believing that once possession is made in the endzone, play over, whether that play be ended by 2 feet, 1 knee, an ass, an elbow, whatever the case may be. In this instance we had 2 feet, a knee, and an ass all down on the same catch before the ball was lost.
    Now if Johnson would’ve stayed on his feet and held onto the ball for as long as he did on that play, but the defender knocked the ball out of his hand, the pass would’ve been complete because the play would’ve ended once possession was established, so why not in this instance? How was possession not established with the 2 feet, the knee, or the ass being down?
    Now I have to be fair, if I wouldnt feel anything but hate for the Bears and pity for the Lions, my opinion on the play might be different.
    But with that being said, stupid ruling, stupid refs, stupid, stupid contradictions to their own rules.

  157. Caldon says: Sep 12, 2010 4:56 PM

    Miami fan and the lions got screwed big time.

  158. G-man says: Sep 12, 2010 4:56 PM

    Want to publicly say I’m canceling NFL Sunday Ticket after that BS call. I know I’m only one person and it doesn’t matter much, but I’m not giving this sham of a league any of my money any more.
    What a joke.

  159. se18a29 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:56 PM

    I hate the Lions, but they were screwed.

  160. DeluxeReverb says: Sep 12, 2010 4:56 PM

    haha, go back to your homes in detroit.

  161. VASeahawk says: Sep 12, 2010 4:57 PM

    Crap like this is why I’ve started losing interest in the NFL. Total BS. Ref who overturned call should never be allowed in a stadium forget on the field

  162. thelomasbrowns says: Sep 12, 2010 4:58 PM

    Shocking. Never seen anything like that in 20 years of watching football. If that were Brady to Moss the NFL would’ve made a half-hour special about it.
    Right in line for the unprecedented suspension of Tom Lewand while the rapist in Pittsburgh gets time knocked off for ‘good behavior’ (apparently ‘not raping someone’ counts as good behavior in today’s NFL.).

  163. GOLions81 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:58 PM

    Lions got robbed! maintained control the ENTIRE time, then as he gets up the ball pops out, terrible call, does he have to maintain control and carry it to the sidelines too?

  164. KUdynamite says: Sep 12, 2010 4:59 PM

    If I were a Detroit Lions fan, I be really pissed off right now. That was a horrible call. Come on, the Lions have been having a hard time winning games for the last decade, they don’t need the NFL playing against them also. This game deserves an * next to it.

  165. csloan99 says: Sep 12, 2010 4:59 PM

    Are the WRs supposed to start fu*king carrying the ball to the sideline with them to be ruled a catch? He did practically everything short of put the game ball in a case to preserve it for the Hall of Fame. Unbelievable.

  166. Nosredna says: Sep 12, 2010 4:59 PM

    The game is over, the score is final.
    I bet the refs come out next week or the week after at the latest and admit they screwed up……
    I guess the way that rule reads, until (and if) a ref signals a touchdown, the player better hold on to the ball at all costs. Not spike it, not spin it, not throw it in the stands. Otherside, he no longer has control and could lose the points.
    What a crock of shit! The Lions got screwed and didn’t even get kissed!

  167. Rick Stavanja says: Sep 12, 2010 4:59 PM

    It was a bad rule change that led to this call. If a player had run the ball into the endzone, the whistle would have been blown immediately when the ball broke the goal line. A runner only needs to have possesion of the ball with the ball in the endzone. The same rule should apply to a receiver. Two feet down & in bounds should be all that’s required.
    This rule and the tuck rule are horrible for the game.
    I’m a Packer fan going on record saying the the Lions were screwed out of a victory.

  168. Karishbhr says: Sep 12, 2010 4:59 PM

    I’m sick. Will the NFL foot the bill for the difference in draft picks that one loss will undoubtedly lead to.

  169. Common Sense says: Sep 12, 2010 4:59 PM

    Awful call!!!

  170. jdmcmil says: Sep 12, 2010 5:00 PM

    Correct interpretation, but I do not understand how the play is not over as soon as the catch is made…

  171. Reggie'sBush says: Sep 12, 2010 5:01 PM

    So if a player spikes the ball after a TD, is it incomplete because he didn’t maintain possesion?
    Such BS, Lions got jobbed big time.

  172. VegasChris says: Sep 12, 2010 5:01 PM

    I have no dog in this race. IMHO this rule needs to go away quickly. Who thought it up anyway? Rube Goldberg?

  173. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Sep 12, 2010 5:02 PM

    Lions were screwed, but not by the refs, but the league office. Of course, if Jonhson just keeps his mitt to the ball and gets up and flips it to a ref before celebrating, it’s all moot anyway. But by the letter of the rule, the correct call was made. Sorry, Lion fans, your misery continues.

  174. FreakParade says: Sep 12, 2010 5:02 PM

    Clearly a catch…it is surprising that given the oppurtunity to review the play the officials didn’t see it as such. I get the rule….this is clearly a acception which I thought review would allow for capturing the correct ‘result’ of the play. In retrospect though…this is the league that will in a year over a debate between millionaires and billionares not be able to agree to continue operating….why should the officials be any different.

  175. DryBle says: Sep 12, 2010 5:02 PM

    Such a joke. Worse than the WWE. At least they admit they are fixed.

  176. RagnarTheBloodAxe says: Sep 12, 2010 5:03 PM

    THE NFL IS RIGGED
    Teams like the Lions, Raiders, Rams, Vikings, Browns, Bills, ect, ect, will always have things like this happen to them because of their small markets. Teams like the Steelers, Cowboys, Packers, Patriots, Colts, ect, will always be the beneficiaries of these obvious bad calls.
    That said, the rule actually states this: “If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.”
    At no point did Calvin Johnson “lose control of the ball” so all of the Bears fans out there saying “Aw shucks, the call was right but that rule is bad.” are wrong. Johnson had control with both feet on the ground. He had control with both knees on the ground. He dropped the ball on the turf well after it was established that he had a TD. Never did the ball bobble or show any signs of being out of control. The reason the head ref overruled the call on the field was because the Bears are a large meeker team facing off against a small market team in their home opener.
    The NFL is a business first and a sport second. It’s really that simple.

  177. Startled Armadillo says: Sep 12, 2010 5:03 PM

    Everyone in the bar gathered around the Lions game to see the call, and every single one of them…Bears fans, Lions fans, Browns fans (I’m in Cleveland) and all the other fans…were certain it was a touchdown. He caught it, got both feet down, got a hip and hand down, and it was even called a TD on the field by the ref 4 feet away.
    HORRIBLE decision, and a HORRIBLE day for the NFL. Everyone let out a collective “WOW” after the decision (similar to that other “Decision”). After that, I just left and went home, without even staying to watch the Steelers-Falcons overtime. I’m done with the NFL for today, and I’m getting pretty tired of this crap. They’ll get what they deserve with the upcoming labor dispute.
    And to top it off, the Steelers won. What a terrible day.

  178. Seb says: Sep 12, 2010 5:03 PM

    To most this “felt” (and will still feel) like a valid TD. But that is why we are not officials.
    There happens to be this new rule. It invalidates this type of catch for the reason that the WR did not maintain possession of the ball throughout the process of falling to the ground. In Calvin Johnson’s case, the process extends all the way to his second hand, the one with the ball, eventually touching the ground: that is when he precisely loses control. Sad for the Lions, but it is an incomplete pass. Officials got a chance to review the play and the ruling on the field stood.
    Oh, it is also worth noting for remaining Lions fans that the previous 4-yard TD run by RB Best was very questionable itself. The different replays shown on TV did not appear to show conclusive evidence that even the tip of the ball broke the plane of the end zone. And yet, the Lions got away with this one.
    Last, the Bears clearly outplayed the Lions throughout the game. It “felt” like they deserve the win anyway.

  179. ClownBurger says: Sep 12, 2010 5:03 PM

    They did NOT get the ruling right.
    The process of the catch was OVER!
    He was in the process of STANDING UP!
    The referees called this wrong.
    The Lions got screwed!

  180. GaziVicious says: Sep 12, 2010 5:04 PM

    Ok, so I read the rule book and I listened to some experts. What’s most unbelievable in the NFL, 2 refs can call it a TD and if a third ref comes in and says incomplete, the last ref overrules all.
    So here the guy closest to him calls it a TD, another one who didn’t even see the play overrules him. They go to the review booth: Johnson has both feet in, his ass touches the ground and and he thought he had a TD and lets go of the ball.
    NFL, shame on you for this bad product you put on the field today with these idiots

  181. durno99 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:05 PM

    Vikings fan here………….What a joke! Do you need to keep control of the ball and then show your ID to the official first before you get a TD? MY GOD! These kind of things only happen in Green Bay! How this happens is beyond me. I don’t care who wins this game but to go on the road lose your QB and then lose to some BS interpritation of a rule is a joke! I hope Bears fans do not talk smack at all this week as you were givin a gift! Not only that play but Forte stepping out of bounds! If this game had any meaning there would have been 16 cameras for replay when Forte stepped out. Here I thought New Orleans got the sympothy calls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  182. MrHumble says: Sep 12, 2010 5:06 PM

    The Lions got screwed royally! Johnson caught the ball, two feet came down and then his knees went down and then his ass hit the ground…..how much more do you need for a catch. Seems to be two sets of rules for wr’s and rb’s…..how come when a rb breaks the plane of the goal line while being hit and when he then hits the ground and loses the ball it is a TD???? Isn’t it all a continuation of “the process”???? Had this been the Katrina Saints or the GB Peckers it would’ve been ruled a TD but not if it’s the lowly Lions, Browns, Bucs etc…….Personally I think the officials did a better job prior to instant replay ever being used. Officials today won’t call it as they see it as they are afraid of the “eye in the sky”. Lions fans I feel for ya!!

  183. jsmackers86 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:06 PM

    The Lions should be given some sort of compensatory pick to make up for that call. At least a second rounder. There is no way to justify that call. I understand the rule, and it didn’t apply in this situation. I can’t wait to see footage of Schartz’ post-game comments. I hope he rips the officials a new one. I’ll gladly pitch in for the fine.

  184. Patrick says: Sep 12, 2010 5:06 PM

    By rule, Zebra’s got it right… but still say 2 feet 1 buttcheek and a hand down should be a TD!!!!

  185. Vikings_rube says: Sep 12, 2010 5:06 PM

    Hmmm, I guess the vikings arent the only team that get screwed over by the refs.

  186. cbrianwatkins says: Sep 12, 2010 5:07 PM

    he/they/myself all got screwed
    he did for not getting a TD
    they did for not getting the WIN
    and i did for not padding my Fantasy victory even more

  187. faulkn22 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:08 PM

    Horrible officiating ruined an incredible game. Chicago, your team blows and you’re refs blow them.

  188. INTENSEG says: Sep 12, 2010 5:08 PM

    That was a TD without doubt. Sucks for the Lions

  189. max says: Sep 12, 2010 5:08 PM

    What, no Jagr?

  190. tshirttom says: Sep 12, 2010 5:08 PM

    Worst call in the history of sports! CJ had both hands and butt down before he set the ball down volunteerly. There was no juggling whatsoever. If the comissioner and league doesn’t reverse the decision than they lose all credibility.

  191. odds75to1 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:09 PM

    As a lions fan, im pissed off…but it’s nice to read other fans who aren’t lions fans as pissed off as I am. Screwed for sure with 2 feet and an ass on the ground…insult added to injury with Jeff Sackus letting Peppers take out Stafford.

  192. dEV says: Sep 12, 2010 5:10 PM

    The call was wrong, wrong, wrong. I’m absolutely shocked that this rule didn’t go away (or at least get re-worked) after the shenanagans list season. This was highway robbery. He basically set the ball down on the ground and let go of it. If he’d just held on to it and handed it to an official, it would’ve been a TD? Pathetic.

  193. 8man says: Sep 12, 2010 5:12 PM

    I just watched it for the 15th time. Yes, I counted.
    The Lions were just robbed! This is absurd. I’m a Patriots fan and I am absolutely livid at this.
    And if he gets up and spikes it or does a dunk on the goal posts, he gets penalized. I guess the only way to be sure now, is to actually hand the ball to the line judge or ref. Bullsnot! The refs are absolute nose pickers!
    Just sick!

  194. Jersey Raider says: Sep 12, 2010 5:13 PM

    Freakin’ Mickey Mouse call by a Mickey Mouse league. The NFL really knows how to destroy the game with bullsh*t calls. What is the sense of even having instant replay when they legislate a perfectly good catch away with complete stupidity. I’m not even a fan of either team, but I absolutely hate watching officials take over a game like this. Complete travesty.

  195. csloan99 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:14 PM

    I’ve never even seen a hardcore porno where someone got fu*ked as bad as Johnson.

  196. Tungusgrump says: Sep 12, 2010 5:14 PM

    In a league when every Win means so much, especially for upstart teams. How can a common sense interpretation of the catch be ignored… He had made the catch and only when he was getting up to do some celebrating did the ball come out. Mike Pereira, you’re a stinkin’ chump. Screw you!
    Bears lucked out today….but that’s ok…Lovie is on his way out soon enough.

  197. GoLions says: Sep 12, 2010 5:15 PM

    One last thought. If it was the NFC championship with 24 seconds to play, and either “Fag”vre or Brees throwing to Headache Harvin or Henderson (notice the obvious hatred for the Purple Peter Eaters), I wonder if it would have been ruled a bit different for either team? In any other situation, it would have been a touchdown. Heroes made and the NFL would have pimped those guys for all they could. But, it’s only the lowly Lions, who cares? Okay!!
    In a sick and twisted Detroit Lions way, this is probably more of a positve in the sense that our guys may take on the us against the world mentality and make a stand. Get well Staff!

  198. sikulas says: Sep 12, 2010 5:15 PM

    Terrible rule, whatever happened to two feet inbounds with control of the ball results in a catch?

  199. ClownBurger says: Sep 12, 2010 5:17 PM

    The correct call was NOT made.
    The process of the catch was over.
    He was in the process of getting up!
    It was the REFS not the rule, that screwed this up.
    The referees are such idiots that they couldn’t determine the difference between the process of a catch and the process of standing up.
    They screwed up BIG TIME!

  200. Pete says: Sep 12, 2010 5:18 PM

    Why does Fox feel the need to hire an ex-official to justify every questionable call? Like the fans don’t have eyes, or can’t grasp the concept of the rules. Its the biggest waste of time I’ve seen in quite a while. Plus Mike whatever his name is, is a typical annoying ref. He sounds and acts like a douche-bag. Look, the officiating is terrible because you have a bunch of old men trying to keep up with 20-something year old world class athletes. Combine that with too many overly-complicated rules, time wasting challenges, and many rules having been written with revenue in mind and you wind up with stupid stupid things like this play, and the tuck rule. I guess the players should keep the ball and run it back to the huddle or place it on the hash for the point after to be absolutely certain they caught it. I agree with the majority of this thread, the Lions got hosed…but it does raise the question…How bad do the Bears suck to need this call to beat the lowly Lions?

  201. rcunningham says: Sep 12, 2010 5:18 PM

    If this same situation happened to the Vikings, everyone would tell us to “OMG STOP WHINING” and “GET OVER IT”.
    You’re all hypocrites.
    Regardless, the call was BS.

  202. Burnum says: Sep 12, 2010 5:19 PM

    This rule sucks. It should be a catch when you maintain control when you are down (and he would have been down because his full body hit the ground). He just released the ball while getting up to go celebrating…

  203. youngdavid74 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:21 PM

    That was absolutely a catch. The Lions got screwed with that call. I bet Calvin Johnson doesn’t put the ball down so early anymore though. That is almost as bad as the Desean Jackson play his rookie year.

  204. Paytonc7 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:21 PM

    Rule sucks… was a Touchdown clearly !!! Buttt.. maybe will keep the players from celebrating too soon and pay attention… Though I feel was a touchdown in my eyes, He cost his team a win because he couldnt just hold on to the ball after he went down, but instead had to let it go so he could celebrate… STUPID

  205. Stuber says: Sep 12, 2010 5:22 PM

    Calvin Johnson’s 3 steps, knee to the ground, ass to the ground, hand on the ground, and 4th step to stand back up should be enough for a TD before he let’s go of the ball. Bears handed the W.
    NFL over-legislated this one. Again.

  206. ClownBurger says: Sep 12, 2010 5:22 PM

    By rule the refs did NOT get this right! I’m tired of people saying that!
    By rule they were WRONG!
    The process of the catch was OVER!
    He was in the process of GETTING UP!
    The referees did NOT make the right call. They got it wrong! By rule, they got it WRONG!
    It wasn’t the rule, it was the refs!

  207. GaziVicious says: Sep 12, 2010 5:22 PM

    I could care less about the Lions, but I care about the game and every fan of every team should be outraged by this. This can happen to you next week, especially if you are from the smaller market.
    I flipped over right on time to see the TD catch and I just got up and said “wow, what a catch. I’m happy for the backup and CJ and those poor Lions” and then the call came and I just couldn’t believe it.

  208. thinkkaz says: Sep 12, 2010 5:22 PM

    Bad rule but the right call was made. Oh well. But also if Calvin Johnson wasn’t showboating w/the one hand crap this never would have been a question

  209. ClownBurger says: Sep 12, 2010 5:23 PM

    By rule the refs did NOT get this right! I’m tired of people saying that!
    By rule they were WRONG!
    The process of the catch was OVER!
    He was in the process of GETTING UP!
    The referees did NOT make the right call. They got it wrong! By rule, they got it WRONG!
    It wasn’t the rule, it was the refs!

  210. other123 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:24 PM

    I think it was a bad interpretation of a bad subjective rule. The Patriots, Vikings and Saints would have all gotten the TD. The Lions look now to be in the doghouse with Al Davis and the Raiders. There were several times last year, as documented by PFT, where the rule went the other way. These pin head rule makers need to understand this is entertainment. A guy celebrating a game winning catch is OK. Its supposed to be fun. Like Ditka said today in regards to the work stoppage–Dont Kill The Golden Goose!

  211. PurpleRaid12 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:26 PM

    This is what I meant by saying the officiating is absolutely laughable in the NFL… and everyone said that I was bitching. The Lions got screwed on that play.

  212. Pervy H. says: Sep 12, 2010 5:28 PM

    GoLions says:
    September 12, 2010 5:15 PM
    One last thought. If it was the NFC championship with 24 seconds to play, and either “Fag”vre or Brees throwing to Headache Harvin or Henderson (notice the obvious hatred for the Purple Peter Eaters)
    ————————————————–
    Just had to go there didn’t you?After I stuck my neck out for the Lions…Enjoy another North 4th place doucher…

  213. Pete says: Sep 12, 2010 5:28 PM

    Hey Fox, alert me when Mike Pereina disagrees with a ref’s review of a call, until then he’s a worthless waste of time.

  214. G-man says: Sep 12, 2010 5:28 PM

    Seb–Watch the replay of the Best run again.
    He doesn’t make it on his initial push, but gets hit by a Bear, spins in the air, and on the way down (before his butt hits the ground) the ball crosses the plain in clear sight.
    Billick missed it on the replay because he only watched the initial push.

  215. faulkn22 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:31 PM

    This was a horrible call. Two feet, a knee, two cheeks, one hand, no TD….. A sham and a joke. Bears fans should be ashamed because theres no honor in winning on a bullshit call after you were beat by a 2nd string quarterback and the last three years worst defense.
    Lions are 1-0 and on top of the division to anyone that has there head on straight.

  216. randy33872 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:31 PM

    Damn Detroit. What did you guys do ?? First the pitcher loses a perfect game with two outs in the ninth to a terrible call, and now this !!!

  217. Charley says: Sep 12, 2010 5:32 PM

    To anybody who’s watched or played football, this was just stupid. I’m thinking of sticking to college football or soccer…anything but the NFL.

  218. PurpleRaid12 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:36 PM

    Good post Rcunningham, like everyone said that I was bitching for the piss poor officiating in both Saint games. Hypocrites…

  219. MoFro says: Sep 12, 2010 5:36 PM

    Was definitely a catch. According to the rule, the question is possession. My interpretation of the rule is that this was based on a play that is bobbled while falling down. Possession wasn’t a question in this play. They took away the “Ground caused the fumble” ruling and now this?
    I am a Lions fan but I will call it straight. Jahvid Best never did cross the line on that TD, but CJ had possession throughout this entire “process”. Look at the replay, if he did not extend the arm to break his fall, he would have possibly injured himself after landing. The NFL wants to protect the QBs, but why shouldn’t they make a stand to protect all players? His feet were being held when he landed, he jumps back and stumbles and then extends his ball hand to break his fall, holding the ball in one hand the entire time.
    The NFL needs to realize this upcoming potential lockout isn’t about the Players, the League, or the Owners……The fans are the reason they are even playing. They need to rid this rule to protect the players and satisfy the fans, whether this happened to the Lions, Bears, Broncos, or whoever…it is obviously a weird rule that needs to be altered for clarity.

  220. fastfred21 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:38 PM

    bullshit–his ass was on the ground before the football came out and he had control, what did the rule say?

  221. MoFro says: Sep 12, 2010 5:38 PM

    # thinkkaz says: September 12, 2010 5:22 PM
    Bad rule but the right call was made. Oh well. But also if Calvin Johnson wasn’t showboating w/the one hand crap this never would have been a question
    Watch it again son, he was bracing the fall. You think Stafford had a shoulder injury, what do you think would happen when a 6’6″ 260lb. player that is in the air lands on his shoulder? He was simply bracing himself for the landing.

  222. BigDog77 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:40 PM

    Hey , NFL next time I suppose the Calvin Johnson has to hop on one leg and do hop scotch!! SIMPLY RIDICULOUS!!! ANOTHER EXAMLPE OF THE B.S. THAT IS THE NFL!!!

  223. schroeder says: Sep 12, 2010 5:42 PM

    In GreenBay they just had a play that the ball rolled around under the reciever…. how is that any different if not worse!!!!!! this is why this is so stupid… different refs different outcomes you cant put every play into a logical box… make a judgement that 99 percent would agree with.. come on… really grinds my gears…

  224. IX says: Sep 12, 2010 5:42 PM

    “Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 1 of the NFL Rule Book (page 51) states that ‘if a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact with an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.” did he not have and maintain control prior to the ball touching the ground?

  225. G-man says: Sep 12, 2010 5:43 PM

    Next time CJ scores I hope he spikes the ball off the face of the nearest official and then asks him if he “finished the process.”

  226. cpigeon1 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:44 PM

    It’s *not* a proper interpretation of the rule. The rules says “in play or in the end zone”. He went out of bounds with possession. When you’re out of bounds you are neither. Can’t believe no one has brought it up. Watch the replay again. Here’s what happened:
    Catches ball, comes down with ball, knees touch with possession, thigh touches with possession, butt touches with possesion, elbow touches with possession, left hand goes *out of bounds with possession* (end of “process”), THEN right hand lets lets go of ball after he is out of bounds. It’s even a blown call using the league’s interpretation.

  227. zippy says: Sep 12, 2010 5:46 PM

    Bad rule, right call.
    Downward momentum has to stop to say he was pushing himself off the ground. The momentum of the ball never stopped going down until it hit the ground and he lost control.

  228. Brennan says: Sep 12, 2010 5:46 PM

    Good call on a stupid rule…

  229. fastfred21 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:47 PM

    bullshit–his ass was on the ground before the football came out and he had control, what did the rule say–some of u assholes kill me, a rule is a rule? ok nowhere on the field can the ground cause a fumble and anywhere else two football moves after a ball is secured is a catch–a rule is a rule??

  230. DryBle says: Sep 12, 2010 5:48 PM

    NFL is dead to me. They need to fix this.

  231. cusoman says: Sep 12, 2010 5:50 PM

    Agreed that this was a horrible call.
    However, where’s all the people calling Lions fans cry babies? Hypocrites.

  232. rovibe says: Sep 12, 2010 5:51 PM

    Apparently, Lions fans don’t understand the new rule. Every single broadcaster, writer, and even the former head of officiating who now covers games on FOX all agree it was the correct call BASED ON THE RULE. It might not make sense, and it isn’t a popular rule, but it was called CORRECTLY. Lions fans, I don’t ever want to hear you babies mock anyone else for complaining about bad calls. Lame!

  233. crop71 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:52 PM

    Ive been a huge fan of the NFL for a long time.
    After that game…Its impossible to not think that its FIXED.
    I watched several touchdown catches today just like that one,they were touchdowns?…this one wasnt?
    I still cant believe the NFL let that happen….
    They need to rid the rule…Then commish needs to overrule it and make that right.

  234. fan15062 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:54 PM

    The call was correct because of a suck-ass rule. The rule needs changed. The Steelers lost a game to Cincy the same way last year when Mike Wallace caught a ball in the end zone, took 2 steps, rolled over and lost it after the roll.
    The NFL is hypocritical with its end zone possession rules. Why is it that a running back – or receiver – can dive over the goal line and fumble the ball bedore hitting the ground and it is still a TD? Yet, by the rule, a receiver can catch a pass, take two steps, fall and if he loses control it is not a catch?? How retarded is that!!!!
    Change the damn rule guys!!!
    That’s a crime what happened to the Lions today. A crime.

  235. Randomjim says: Sep 12, 2010 5:56 PM

    He maintained control. The 1st ref saw that & called TD.
    And for the record, that tuck play didn’t win the game for them. It should have been a penalty on Woodson for hitting the QB in the head. If that was called that would have given them better field position than just the tuck call.

  236. theuncletodd says: Sep 12, 2010 5:57 PM

    Lions got jobbed—not a fan but when a receiver catches the ball–HAS CONTROL–hits the ground in fair territory and then while rolling after the catch, places the ball on the ground while getting up —and this is an incomplete pass?!?!?! The rule that is place is splitting hairs and needs to be abolished

  237. Audient says: Sep 12, 2010 5:58 PM

    I’m not a Lions fan.
    I read the rule.
    It looked to me that Johnson had control of the ball when it touched the ground.
    Detroit should have been given 6 points for a TD.

  238. BrownsFan says: Sep 12, 2010 5:59 PM

    Come on Mike, that was a BS call. Johnson’s butt hit the turf, he was clearly in bounds and in possession of the ball. Just another reason why folks get irated with the NFL. Ratings are good, but the officiating is confusing and inconsistent. Where’s my tuck rule video anyway??

  239. Iceberg34 says: Sep 12, 2010 5:59 PM

    I think the officials will consistently call that incomplete for any team but the rule should be changed. That is a catch. He clearly possessed it.
    That said, Johnson is a bird brain for holding onto the ball with just one hand spread out from his body. He should know the rule. Matt Forte showed how it should be done just minutes earlier the way he protected the ball as he hit the ground.

  240. Tiger Woods Owns You says: Sep 12, 2010 6:00 PM

    He caught the ball, had both feet inbounds and had possession
    That rule is retarted and its an NFL conspiricy to never let the Lions win a game

  241. badfish69 says: Sep 12, 2010 6:02 PM

    Brad Childress should listen to Jim Schwartz’s post game press conference to see how a real NFL coach reacts to bad calls.

  242. joe240 says: Sep 12, 2010 6:02 PM

    I understand that aggravation in the rule.
    However, if Calvin Johnson waited another two seconds before he tried a one hand celebration resulting in the ball squirting out… they would have had a lead with thirty seconds to play.
    Am I wrong?

  243. ACS2 says: Sep 12, 2010 6:04 PM

    cusoman says:
    September 12, 2010 5:50 PM
    Agreed that this was a horrible call.
    However, where’s all the people calling Lions fans cry babies? Hypocrites.
    ————–
    Only a crybaby posts this.
    Crybaby.

  244. VikingsPrincess says: Sep 12, 2010 6:04 PM

    I thought the Lions were robbed. And I feel horrible about Matt Stafford getting hurt again. That club is truly cursed. :( I cheer for a division rival and I can’t even hate that team – I always feel sorry for them.
    Terrible call.

  245. willmose says: Sep 12, 2010 6:05 PM

    Like the tuck rule, many fans think it is a terrible rule. The real problem is that the officialsdon’t like to make judgement calls. Only balls the officials have are the ones used in the game.

  246. Boudin says: Sep 12, 2010 6:07 PM

    fixed? who the hell would want to fix a Bears / Lions game? and who would realize beforehand that the Bears would need help from the refs to win this game???

  247. UCantSpellLoseWithoutDetroitLions says: Sep 12, 2010 6:09 PM

    First the Galarraga blown call and now this!?!?! It’s tough enough living in Dertoit without all these BS calls! We were screwed again.

  248. popstand says: Sep 12, 2010 6:10 PM

    To those saying…
    “It was the right call by the letter of the rule, but it’s a stupid rule.”
    No, no, no, no. The rule is fine, but they missed the call. Read the rule more closely. He had control of the ball all the way to the ground, and it was therefore a touchdown. If he is bobbling the ball on the way down, then it’s incomplete, but he perfectly one-handed it. Nothing wrong with the rule, just the officials.

  249. kennyco63 says: Sep 12, 2010 6:12 PM

    Controversial call. Is that what the NFL needs to have a commercial product? Not the kind of game that I need to waste my time watching. What a disgrace to the players and the fans. Thanks NFL, what a great game??? Just lost alot of respect for your game.

  250. sklein11 says: Sep 12, 2010 6:13 PM

    The ball did not come out in the act of catching the ball. He had caught it 2 steps earlier. The rule doesn’t say that it is incomplete if it hits the ground any time before the whistle blows. The rule is fine, the ref is incompetent.

  251. Magic Juan says: Sep 12, 2010 6:13 PM

    As a die-hard Bears fan, the Bears should not have won this game. Robotron made that catch. Billick had it right at the end of the game–a ball carrier can simply break the plane of the goal line, and still be counted as a TD, even if the ball gets punched out a split-second later if the runner is stretching out to cross the goal line. Yet this “…continuing the process…” rule for receivers requires all of this extra BS of maintaining extra & continued control of the ball. Completely inconsistent rule vs. ball carriers requirement for crossing the goal line plane. If they are going to keep this dumb “process” rule, then ball carriers should be required to get the ball & their entire body into the end zone.

  252. thenfljunkie.com says: Sep 12, 2010 6:13 PM

    The Lions were screwed! It does make you think the fix was in

  253. kennyco63 says: Sep 12, 2010 6:17 PM

    Most of the people commenting are not even Lions fans, just NFL fans. It was a catch no matter what team we are talking about asshole. Just a horrible rule and a huge in justification of it.

  254. southside mike says: Sep 12, 2010 6:18 PM

    “If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of… the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.”
    When he lost control of the ball on the ground the pass was incomplete.
    Even money says this rule is changed next year.

  255. Bronco4life says: Sep 12, 2010 6:19 PM

    Terrible call. Cost the Lions a division game.

  256. BOYCOTTFOOTBALLcom says: Sep 12, 2010 6:23 PM

    that was such a bad call i thought they were playing the Steelers!!

  257. jdude says: Sep 12, 2010 6:25 PM

    As a Bears fan, the Lions got robbed. Bears defense played great, of course against a second string QB in the second half. But playing a “prevent defense” on the last series, the Lions took advantage and really won that game. Bears won ugly. Their reality will hit next few weeks against Cowboys, Packers, and Giants.
    I thought that once the ball crossed the goal line, it was a TD. This is a first time of heard of the ‘process’ of the reception crap.

  258. pudgalvin says: Sep 12, 2010 6:26 PM

    See, the interpretation of this rule is for plays similar to this to give the refs a concrete point for which to make a ruling. Regardless if the league is interpreting it that way we would interpret it, that his how they are explaining it to both officials and the teams.
    So, in the process of him trying to catch the ball, the momentum he takes to the ground causes his arm holding the ball to hit the ground and knock the ball loose. If you guys can say that he could have stopped his arm from hitting the ground if he had wanted to, then it’s a catch. Personally, I don’t think he could have.

  259. LuckyPierre says: Sep 12, 2010 6:27 PM

    Misapplication of the rule. The play was over. He lost the ball when he half-spiked the ball/half-planted it to push himself up from the ground. That was part of getting up from the ground – not part of going to the ground.

  260. MotownDC says: Sep 12, 2010 6:32 PM

    This was a TD – even under this dumb rule. Stop blaming the rule! The refs screwed up, Lions get f-d again. Calvin Johnson MAINTAINED CONTROL OF THE BALL AFTER HE TOUCHED THE GROUND. He didn’t have to maintain it until after THE BALL touched the ground

  261. DGB says: Sep 12, 2010 6:37 PM

    One of the worst calls that I’ve seen in all my years as a football fan. The Lions got screwed.

  262. Joe Williams says: Sep 12, 2010 6:46 PM

    How can a ball carrier get a whisker touching the goal line and then immediately fumble yet get a TD, but Calvin takes FOUR steps in the end zone, slides on his butt, gets one hand down (which goes out of bounds) and then slams the ball down and somehow it’s STILL NOT a TD?
    The only thing worse than the call was putting up with the idiots on Fox defending the ruling while ignoring the lunacy of a rule that treats a TD catch much different than a TD run. Rules like this make the game nearly unwatchable as every play gets reviewed when 90% of fans clearly see what happened.

  263. odds75to1 says: Sep 12, 2010 6:53 PM

    Just like to add, I NEVER thought I would see the day that a Lions post (not involving the Vikings/Packers/Steelers would be #1 most commented. And, since 98% agree that we got the shaft, those that are saying it’s the rule, deal with it….well you are idiots…and you would be saying different if it was your team.

  264. kravon says: Sep 12, 2010 6:57 PM

    Its a dumb rule, but the right call.

  265. packerhater28 says: Sep 12, 2010 7:00 PM

    If it was a Packer receiver it would of been called a TD.Once again I see they are playing a depleated team but if thats the only way they can win then so be it no matter how sad it is.

  266. disgusted says: Sep 12, 2010 7:03 PM

    Does it make a difference to comment? I hope so! The rule sucks. This definately should have been a touchdown. How disapointing that was! I almost puked when they reversed that call. What to do? Think I’ll get drunk and cry in my beer! Wake up NFL!!!

  267. jscwhite says: Sep 12, 2010 7:13 PM

    Instead of looking at it as did he maintain control through the catch, I believe it should be looked at as at what point is he down with control of the ball:
    1. Two feet down with control of ball = Touchdown.
    2 Two feet down , knee down, contact from defender, with control of ball = Touchdown.
    3. Two feet down, knee down, butt down with contact from defender with control of the ball = Touchdown.
    4. Two feet down, knee down, butt down, left hand out of bounds with control in right hand = Touchdown.
    He maintained control until after his left hand had touched out of bounds at the back of the end zone and the play at that point should have been complete.

  268. CaptainMarvel says: Sep 12, 2010 7:19 PM

    OH MY GOD. I was starting to think so last year, but now it’s official. The NFL is no different that the WWF. It’s 100% about $$ and entertainment. Fair play is done. Finished.

  269. Swive says: Sep 12, 2010 7:37 PM

    He was getting up. His left hand was out of the endzone already. Either of these means the “process” was complete and he was on to his next action.

  270. cusoman says: Sep 12, 2010 7:38 PM

    # ACS2 says: September 12, 2010 6:04 PM
    cusoman says:
    September 12, 2010 5:50 PM
    Agreed that this was a horrible call.
    However, where’s all the people calling Lions fans cry babies? Hypocrites.
    ————–
    Only a crybaby posts this.
    Crybaby.
    ————–
    You probably said that because you don’t know what hypocrite means. It’s ok, Hooked on Phonics can work for you too! http://www.hookedonphonics.com/

  271. gzg46 says: Sep 12, 2010 7:38 PM

    I’m a life-long Bears fan and my bf is a life-long Lions fan and we really just wanted to see a good game. Well, that wasn’t a good game, and the crappy call on that TD certainly didn’t help. I don’t even care that much about football but that sure looked like a completed pass. I guess it’s what formerly was a known as a completed pass. What EVER!

  272. Hauschild says: Sep 12, 2010 7:39 PM

    Rulez IS Rulez …

  273. PurpleRaid12 says: Sep 12, 2010 7:40 PM

    “Brad Childress should listen to Jim Schwartz’s post game press conference to see how a real NFL coach reacts to bad calls.”
    ____________________________________
    BadFish should try learning some football. But alas, he’s a Packers fan.

  274. moviking says: Sep 12, 2010 7:45 PM

    I’m not a Lions fan but they got hosed HUGE! Johnson had control of the ball with two feet down, then went to his ass…..in the end zone!! Any other play in the NFL that play is over the minute there is possession across the plane of the goal line. His feet were down, his butt was down, his knee was down and then he let go of the ball because he obviously thought he had scored. Hey refs and NFL execs….HE DID SCORE

  275. Brandon says: Sep 12, 2010 7:57 PM

    SCREWED!

  276. ijr213 says: Sep 12, 2010 8:02 PM

    The rule might have been held up in regards to precedent/writing of the rule, but in terms of what actually happened, it was a blown call. The refs had a chance to set a new (correct) precedent and chose not to.
    Calvin Johnson made the catch, took 2 steps, fell and hit the ground with his backside, turned over, and set the ball down. He was also avoiding contact from a defender. All of that combines to 2 total football moves, which is how everything else would have been ruled.
    Lions were robbed.

  277. GoLions says: Sep 12, 2010 8:03 PM

    And hardly a mention on POS NBC Football in America. God forbid an event that shakes the core spirit of the game interfere with McSkabb’s Redskins debut. Kiss my ass.

  278. zardue says: Sep 12, 2010 8:07 PM

    This is a total joke, how in the hell was that not a catch. In all my days i have i never seen such a bunch of idiots than those foolish zebras….come on, can people really be so dumb, and if so i hope they arent reproducing, wouldnt want those dumb traits to be passed on. Sorry but i call it how i see it….

  279. Ambrose says: Sep 12, 2010 8:09 PM

    Correct call…unfortunately. He should have known to keep it wrapped up. You can’t take one-handed plays for granted….especially in the endzone….even if it did look impressive. He pressed it to the ground and left it there, as though he was making a statement. Too bad though, I’m a big UGA Stafford fan.

  280. taudaddy79 says: Sep 12, 2010 8:13 PM

    NFL Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 1

  281. Johnny MonsterCock says: Sep 12, 2010 8:18 PM

    Hey, another opportunity for Mike Pereira to cover the asses of the part-time, half-wit officials.

  282. pjb says: Sep 12, 2010 8:51 PM

    The nfl says a pass is complete when the receiver has possession with both feet in bounds. The play was over at that point since the catch was in the end zone. The new rule should not have been applied. The refs are morons.

  283. Pervy H. says: Sep 12, 2010 8:58 PM

    After further review…..the Saints win…..

  284. LIONSWERROBBED says: Sep 12, 2010 9:01 PM

    DO WE EVEN HAVE TO COMMENT ON THIS BLOWN CALL. I MEAN REALLY EVEN 90% OF BEARS FANS AGREE!!!

  285. LIONSWERROBBED says: Sep 12, 2010 9:05 PM

    NFL
    Nomore Football Legitimacy

  286. badfish69 says: Sep 12, 2010 9:23 PM

    # PurpleRaid12 says: September 12, 2010 7:40 PM
    “Brad Childress should listen to Jim Schwartz’s post game press conference to see how a real NFL coach reacts to bad calls.”
    ____________________ ________________
    BadFish should try learning some football. But alas, he’s a Packers fan.
    —————————————————–
    PurpleRaid should try to not be a whiny bitch, but alas, he is a Viking fan

  287. JDMP says: Sep 12, 2010 9:36 PM

    He placed the ball on the ground! How is that different than flipping the ball to the ref?

  288. RSMVikesfan says: Sep 12, 2010 9:45 PM

    Lions were robbed by the ref’s intepretation of an overly complex rule that should be changed. He made a two handed catch, both feet were down, his butt was down and he had the ball under control with one of his giant hands. The ball only came out when he went to get up to celebrate. Come on NFL this is getting ridiculous!

  289. Kidboj says: Sep 12, 2010 9:50 PM

    The NFL is a Donkey Show. Even the WWE refs are better than these guys…These refs belong on a Roller Derby rink or something.

  290. Prufrock says: Sep 12, 2010 9:53 PM

    How is this even a debate? The refs called the play correctly, plain and simple. He did not complete the catch, and you have to maintain control throughout the fall, no matter where you are: end zone, sideline or elsewhere. Breaking the plane is irrelevant, and the running back breaking the plane and fumbling is not an appropriate comparison: IT WAS NOT A COMPLETED CATCH. If he never possessed the ball, whether he was in the end zone or not is meaningless.

  291. BigBear123 says: Sep 12, 2010 10:04 PM

    Good call, bad rule.
    Score is final, whine all you want.

  292. jackbauerqb1 says: Sep 12, 2010 10:05 PM

    JOHNSON SHOULD HAVE SECURED THE BALL BEFORE HE STARTED CELEBRATING.
    Then we would not even be having this discussion.

  293. lsutherland says: Sep 12, 2010 10:05 PM

    That video explains why I don’t watch the game anymore. The league determines who wins the game, not the players.
    Long live the lawyers!
    Assholes.

  294. steelers rule says: Sep 12, 2010 10:06 PM

    Lions still ahd 2 chances to score! It was 2nd down, not 4th down! Remember the coin toss on Thanksgiving Day in ’98 Lion fans? Payback sucks!

  295. PolegoJim says: Sep 12, 2010 10:27 PM

    Prufrock – pathetic
    Horrible call, ridiculous, sad, sickening.
    Guaranteed that same catch is ruled a TD at least 10-15 times later this season.

  296. steelersruss says: Sep 12, 2010 10:42 PM

    i say it was a catch this topic gets me heated u catch the ball get 2 feet in bounds its a catch but u can run and dive for the pylon lose control of the ball and they still call it a TD!!! r u serious i wish i could remember what year it was im a steeler fan the reciever caught the ball in the endzone got both feet down once or twice then went out of bounds 10-15 yards and fell down and lost the ball and they said it was incomplete but diving through the corner next to the pylon not even touching in bounds its a TD even after they lose control of the ball something needs to change this is bull and everybody knows it except for the NFL
    why is that???

  297. Sweetness34 says: Sep 12, 2010 10:48 PM

    Your right, this should not be a debate. it should be a TD. End of story. The ball did not come lose until the catch and the fall were completed. He dropped the ball as he was in the act of getting up. IT WAS A COMPLETED PASS!
    And this is coming from a Bears fan.
    Prufrock says:
    September 12, 2010 9:53 PM
    How is this even a debate? The refs called the play correctly, plain and simple. He did not complete the catch, and you have to maintain control throughout the fall, no matter where you are: end zone, sideline or elsewhere. Breaking the plane is irrelevant, and the running back breaking the plane and fumbling is not an appropriate comparison: IT WAS NOT A COMPLETED CATCH. If he never possessed the ball, whether he was in the end zone or not is meaningless.

  298. 2Blackaces81 says: Sep 12, 2010 11:00 PM

    Prufrock says:
    September 12, 2010 9:53 PM
    How is this even a debate? The refs called the play correctly, plain and simple. He did not complete the catch, and you have to maintain control throughout the fall, no matter where you are: end zone, sideline or elsewhere. Breaking the plane is irrelevant, and the running back breaking the plane and fumbling is not an appropriate comparison: IT WAS NOT A COMPLETED CATCH. If he never possessed the ball, whether he was in the end zone or not is meaningless.
    You must be as blind or as stupid as the refs who overturned that call! Total sham, has nothing to do with a big or small market, just a terrible officiating crew who should be suspended without pay. As a vikings fan, they only have themselves to blame for letting it get to the point where the refs would have any bearing on outcome of the game.

  299. Brandon Folsom says: Sep 12, 2010 11:18 PM

    http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=158759860807339
    Join the “It Was a Catch!” facebook group and stand up to the NFL’s nonsense!

  300. TwoCents22 says: Sep 12, 2010 11:18 PM

    This was a Touchdown EVEN BY THE RULE
    “he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground” – Ok. Both feet touched the ground. Butt touched the ground. Left hand touched the ground. Still maintained possession. Nothing there to say it wasn’t a TD. It DOES NOT SAY “he must maintain control after he touches the ball, or the ball touches the ground”. He actually raised his right foot to start getting up before the ball came out. Now he’s not “going to the ground” anymore. It’s a TD, plain and simple.
    So this is where it’s all judgment. How long does a guy have to hold it before it’s called a TD? I mean technically, according to this rule, if Calvin Johnson catches the ball in the endzone, falls on his back, with full control of the ball. Lays there for 3 seconds and a defender then swipes the ball away, they can call it an incomplete pass. Its’ the same thing.

  301. JohnnySkamps says: Sep 12, 2010 11:19 PM

    A “worst ever” type call. Clearly caught the ball both feet down, ass on the ground (looked like a catch with your ass on the ground:) left hand out of bounds. The process ends thus TD! Then bouncing up, ball released, goes to celebrate! Starting to get seriously tired of the NFL and all their freaking “rules”. From the ridiculous coddling of quarterbacks (oops 15 yards cause your hand brushed the Qb’s precious noggin) to this nonsense. Wake up idiots before this crap happens in the Super Bowl or playoffs. All Lions should carry all TD catches for the remainder of the season to the sidelines.

  302. sihewi says: Sep 12, 2010 11:20 PM

    Prucrock u r what’s wrong with this country.’mno common sense

  303. PurpleRaid12 says: Sep 13, 2010 12:18 AM

    “PurpleRaid should try to not be a whiny bitch, but alas, he is a Viking fan”
    __________________________________
    That’s creative. But, It doesn’t make much sense to label others as “whiny bitches” when all you do is come on to other teams articles and bitch, whether it be about said teams fans, or athletes, or coaches (exhibit A: this article, or every other Viking article). However, I do enjoy you attempting to get under my skin with all your creative insults, must be fun to still be in High School.
    I guess it’s true when you Packer fans say “All we do is whine!” I mean… win

  304. In & Out Burger says: Sep 13, 2010 12:26 AM

    The refs made the correct call on the review. It was extremely close, and I would have said the same thing if they had called it a touchdown. As far as the actual on field call goes…yikes.

  305. tim8282 says: Sep 13, 2010 1:52 AM

    Two points:
    1) Calvin does the EXACT same thing, but at the one yard line reaching over the goal line, it’s a touchdown because he broke the plane.
    2) I can’t think of how it’s possible for someone to palm a football with one hand for a full 1-2 seconds, but not catch it.
    This rule needed to be changed a year ago when it happened to Louis Murphy. Or maybe it needs to happen to a better team in a bigger game.

  306. SmurfJuice says: Sep 13, 2010 1:57 AM

    Back in the early days of NFL, to score a touchdown you actually had to TOUCH the ball DOWN in the end zone. Hence the evolution of the ball spike.
    Sixty years ago, this was a touchdown. Ten years ago this was a touchdown.
    Ten years ago, the NFL made sense…

  307. cadillacjosh says: Sep 13, 2010 2:05 AM

    Did anyone else notice where Calvin Johnson pushed Zach Bowman with two hands in the back to gain that separation?
    Its not even a play, that is offensive pass interference.

  308. kahnoodie says: Sep 13, 2010 4:57 AM

    Stupid rule. Last year the Packers lost a TD versus the Bears when Greg Jennings had two feet down in the end zone, possession of the ball, and he wasn’t on his way to the ground. However as his third step was hitting the ground, he was tackled/stripped and it was ruled no catch both on the field and after review.
    The stupid part is that there is nothing in the rule saying when you are done making a catch in the endzone.
    The intent of the rule was for plays where a guy is dragging two feet while laying out for a catch along the sidelines, which is a fairly concise action. I don’t think it was intended to cover plays where a player maintains possession with two feet, a knee, a hand, a thigh, and a butt and then somehow loses the ball after all that.

  309. buzzbissinger says: Sep 13, 2010 5:25 AM

    I think Bob Costas summed it up best: This is a case where following the rule overrides what common sense tells you should be right.
    I have no doubt the NFL will ever understand that statement by itself.
    Brought to you by the innovators’ of the blackout rule.

  310. jax9ball says: Sep 13, 2010 5:46 AM

    Dumbest. Rule. Ever.
    I’m not a Lions fan, nor have I ever been one, but I feel bad for anyone who is. That was a TD. The victory was stolen from Detroit.
    Chicago deserved to lose after the Bears brain wizards botched the 4th and goal call earlier in the quarter. They go for a TD and fail when a FG gives them the lead. What a joke.

  311. contract says: Sep 13, 2010 7:07 AM

    The NFL has f’ed this rule up so bad it’s not funny. If you control the ball and get both feet down it’s a damn catch.
    Period.

  312. Prufrock says: Sep 13, 2010 7:45 AM

    If you want to argue against the rule, then fine. I am fine with that. But the refs are tasked with enforcing the rules as written, and the receiver did not control the ball going all the way to the ground. Similarly, the players are tasked with playing by the rules defined by the league, and Johnson should not have been looking for his chance to celebrate before he demonstrated full control of the ball ALL THE WAY to the ground.

  313. MACK DADDY says: Sep 13, 2010 8:10 AM

    Can you imagine Childress and their fans if this happened to the crykings?

  314. AtTheMurph says: Sep 13, 2010 8:11 AM

    Johmspm went to the ground with control and as he started to get up he placed the ball on the ground and lost control. By the league’s definition that’s a TD.

  315. FreddieBaby says: Sep 13, 2010 8:26 AM

    The officiating crew that made that call should be fired – or at least suspended without pay and fined. The Lions were robbed!

  316. jk7761 says: Sep 13, 2010 8:33 AM

    lions were robbed. but the players have to complete the play before they start the celebrations.
    Pull the ball into your body or clutch it, get up HAND the ball to the ref, then celebrate.

  317. Reggie'sBush says: Sep 13, 2010 9:30 AM

    Like I stated before, horrific call.
    That said, you idiots do realize that the Lions still covered the spread? How many people were really betting Lions on the moneyline?
    No way is NFL fixed, some disgruntled player or ref who lasted 2 years in the league would of came out with a book for cash by now.

  318. crubenst says: Sep 13, 2010 9:59 AM

    The officials got it wrong. Calvin went to the ground and maintained posession. He didn’t lose control until he tried to get up.

  319. thehoodedone says: Sep 13, 2010 10:10 AM

    I lost a little of my love for the NFL on that call. Let the warriors play the game. Don’t allow the over-officious jerks to decide games. It makes things appear rigged. Like college football.

  320. Stinger9 says: Sep 13, 2010 10:23 AM

    Lions got screwed

  321. researchALLwars says: Sep 13, 2010 11:06 AM

    “If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.”
    Watch the replay. The dude is getting back up while placing the ball on the ground. Not to mention there was no point in time where he didn’t have complete control of that ball.
    BY RULE. THAT is a touchdown.
    keep ya head up 81. It’ll swing back your way before seasons end.

  322. ACS2 says: Sep 13, 2010 11:26 AM

    Prufrock says:
    September 13, 2010 7:45 AM
    If you want to argue against the rule, then fine. I am fine with that. But the refs are tasked with enforcing the rules as written, and the receiver did not control the ball going all the way to the ground. Similarly, the players are tasked with playing by the rules defined by the league, and Johnson should not have been looking for his chance to celebrate before he demonstrated full control of the ball ALL THE WAY to the ground.
    —————-
    I disagree.. I think it’s on the official to use common sense and apply the rules as needed. This rule is to prevent touchdowns when airborne players fumble the ball upon making contact with the ground. That’s NOT what happened here. It’s clear to everyone with two eyes that Johnson let the ball go as he was getting up. There’s a difference, and the referee should’ve identified it. Lions got screwed. Luckily, it’ll probably have zero impact on their season (and the Bears’ season).

  323. MotorCitySteel says: Sep 13, 2010 11:47 AM

    From a Steelers Fan………….The lions got screwed over royally. No way that wasn’t a catch. Mike Pereira is a kool-aid drinking homeboy, who never disagrees with his “boys”. I hope I never have to see an official dictate the outcome again. THE RULE MUST CHANGE………. No Fun League strikes again!

  324. DocBG says: Sep 13, 2010 11:47 AM

    100% vikings fan here.
    After hoping both teams would find a way to lose the game, its a crying shame to see the lions robbed like this.
    2 feet + ass on the ground + another step + Control of ball = No TD
    Something wrong with that math……

  325. Dwebert4 says: Sep 13, 2010 11:50 AM

    Random thoughts/responses from a Bears fan.
    Dumb rule, right call.
    It differs from a running back reaching out to break the plane in that a running back has possesion when he takes the hand-off. A receiver by rule does not have possession until he completes the “act” of making the reception. To do this he needs to remain possesion until the dust settles and the play is 100% completely over. He didn’t do that. Stupid yes, but correctly called by the letter of the rule…and no he wasn’t done falling to the ground until that ball touched the ground and came out of his hand. If he could’ve stood up withoug using the ball as a brace (and fumbling it in the process) then he would have been fine. He couldn’t, he wasn’t. Too bad.
    As far as the “The Bears didn’t deserve to win this game” argument, I’ll just say this: Total offense Bears 463 yds Lions 168 yds. During the Lions first 8 possesions of the second half prior to the controversial drive, the Lions had 5 yards of total offense…think about that 5 total yard on 8 possessions. Does anyone truly think that the Lions “deserved” to win this game any more than the Bears did?
    Finally, is wrong that I delight in the pain of Detroit fans as much as I do? Crappy way to win a game, but anytime, any way that Detroit loses in any sport, I’m a happy man.

  326. flynfuzz says: Sep 13, 2010 11:57 AM

    Most (though not all) NFL refs use the instant replay – not so much to get the call right – but rather to find justification to uphold their call on the field. They can’t admit when they blow a call. So they good under the hood for as long as it takes to find something – anything to support their mistake.
    In this case, they took a very subjective rule that has been interpreted many different ways in different games, and gave it an interpretation that supported the on field call !
    Everyone who saw it knew it was a touchdown – even those who won’t admit it. But once th call was blown, the “let’s go to instant replay to try to save face” mentality kicked in.
    The call was wrong ! And no amount of trying to spin it into a correct rule interpretation will change that.
    First there was the Armando Gallaraga perfect game that was stolen away by a bad call. Now this.
    How many more times are Detroit fans going to be screwed by poor officiating ?

  327. Jon Snow says: Sep 13, 2010 12:07 PM

    I don’t know if this has been said yet, but that was a touchdown and the Lions got hosed!

  328. Allied Biscuit says: Sep 13, 2010 1:21 PM

    has this turned into a vikings, packers argument yet?
    /i just made it one

  329. Tetsuo says: Sep 13, 2010 3:44 PM

    #1 Score the touchdown
    #2 Celebrate
    do it in that order, you’ll have no problems.
    On a related note, I’m sick of players tossing the ball the second they cross the goal line. HOLD ON TO THE BALL. It’s basic.

  330. GoLions81 says: Sep 13, 2010 5:36 PM

    He dropped the ball because he was getting up. sorry calvin didnt know he had to the carry the ball to the bench with him. In no way shape or form was celebration a reason y he dropped the ball.

  331. The Laces Were In says: Sep 13, 2010 6:09 PM

    # Prufrock says: September 13, 2010 7:45 AM
    If you want to argue against the rule, then fine. I am fine with that. But the refs are tasked with enforcing the rules as written, and the receiver did not control the ball going all the way to the ground. Similarly, the players are tasked with playing by the rules defined by the league, and Johnson should not have been looking for his chance to celebrate before he demonstrated full control of the ball ALL THE WAY to the ground.
    ______________________________________
    This is for you and anyone else who is either blaming Calvin or saying the refs made the correct call:
    Why is it the the ref with the clearest view of the play signal TD in the first place? Of ALL of the people on the field and in the stadium, shouldn’t refs have the most knowledge as it concerns the rules of football? How is it that a ref with a clear and unobstructed view of the play rule TD and was overruled by another ref out of the field of play? That’s my biggest problem with all of this….even the refs don’t know the rules. If this was a clear as day rule like sooooo many of you “experts” are so inclined to tell the rest of us, you would think that the man who signaled TD, that actually has a job as NFL official, would have gotten it right.

  332. Mel Kiper IV says: Sep 13, 2010 6:15 PM

    Pathetic. Was that Tim Donaghy making the take away? It was a take away because the ref that was right there ruled it a touchdown. But, it’s understandable – how was the ref who called it a touchdown to know the crew chief had a ton of money on the game.

  333. Prufrock says: Sep 13, 2010 9:52 PM

    This has to be the most nonsensical comment I’ve seen. Refs make mistakes. Sometimes one ref will signal a catch and another ref with a better vantage point will overrule it. Sometimes they make the incorrect call and they overturn it on replay. They reviewed it, and with the benefit of being able to closely view the play in its entirety, they made the correct call.
    Quoted:
    This is for you and anyone else who is either blaming Calvin or saying the refs made the correct call:
    Why is it the the ref with the clearest view of the play signal TD in the first place? Of ALL of the people on the field and in the stadium, shouldn’t refs have the most knowledge as it concerns the rules of football? How is it that a ref with a clear and unobstructed view of the play rule TD and was overruled by another ref out of the field of play? And why does it burn when I pee? That’s my biggest problem with all of this….even the refs don’t know the rules. If this was a clear as day rule like sooooo many of you “experts” are so inclined to tell the rest of us, you would think that the man who signaled TD, that actually has a job as NFL official, would have gotten it right.

  334. rarson says: Sep 14, 2010 3:39 AM

    It’s not even the right call. Johnson had control of the ball the whole time. He didn’t bobble the ball or lose control, so he wasn’t required to maintain control of the ball after being down. The second his ass hit the ground, the catch was made. Actually, the two steps he took meant the catch was made.
    It’s NOT a correct call by the rule, not even close. That’s why the call doesn’t make any sense. The rule isn’t really a bad one, it’s the ref’s interpretation of it that is screwed up.

  335. rarson says: Sep 14, 2010 3:45 AM

    “A receiver by rule does not have possession until he completes the “act” of making the reception. To do this he needs to remain possesion until the dust settles and the play is 100% completely over.”
    That’s clearly not true. Have you ever watched a football game before?
    Apparently many of you can’t read. The rule says “he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground”. I’d say that his ass hitting the ground would qualify as “touching the ground”.

  336. mattSTAFFORDwillSAVEus says: Sep 14, 2010 4:39 AM

    Lets say this play occured in the middle of the fourth quarter instead of in the final minute….Lets say the call on the field was a TD , do you reall think the Bears would look @ that replay and issue a challenge ? I doubt it.

  337. SmurfJuice says: Sep 14, 2010 6:38 AM

    There are some people that have suggested he should have pulled the ball in towards his body, clutched it close as he went to the ground. If the refs can’t see the damn ball in his hand when it’s outstretched, how the hell are they gonna see it when it’s up close to him?
    Still no official words from the NFL on this issue.. I’m quite interested to see how they spin this.

  338. faulkn22 says: Sep 14, 2010 2:45 PM

    Horrible ending and horrible rule/call

  339. bigO says: Sep 14, 2010 6:29 PM

    This still pisses me off. If a WR catches the ball standing up and spikes it immediately, doesnt he have control for less time than Megatron did on this play. This is the stupidest rule I’ve ever seen.
    This was so obviously a TD, ridiculous.

  340. JDMP says: Sep 14, 2010 6:51 PM

    If this was in reverse and it was a Cutler to Hester pass it would’ve been a touchdown cause the league always stands up for it’s big market teams.
    Total BS screwjob!

  341. Suh-weet says: Sep 14, 2010 9:20 PM

    Lifetime Lions fan here – unfortunately – and these guys just can’t catch a break. If I were Calvin, I wouldn’t give that ball to any ref until they signed for it after EVERY catch, whether its for a TD or not, for the REST of the season, just to be sure he completes the “process” of catching the ball. He could change his nickname from Megatron to FedEx Man!

  342. M BAUMAN says: Sep 15, 2010 1:43 AM

    Even if you buy the assertion that possession
    was never completed anytime prior to the ball
    touching the turf the fact remains that the ball
    never came loose during the “process of the catch”.
    When the ball contacted the turf he was still controlling it. He downed the ball in the endzone. So unless there’s another rule about having to still maintain possession after you down the ball it would seem the rule in question was totally misapplied and the play should have resulted in a touchdown.
    The NFL needs to cull all the garbage from the rulebook and adopt the NHL system where all reviews are done at league headquarters.

  343. Fat Old Sun says: Sep 15, 2010 2:47 AM

    I say he should change his name to “The Process”
    I would hate to be an NFL official, or any of the higher ups at corporate right now. You would think the last thing anybody would want is the entire city of Detroit pissed off at them.
    They really don’t have much more to lose. This is a population that sets stuff on fire to celebrate … when they are happy. You don’t want to know what they are thinking when they are angry! I was born there. I’ve seen it.
    When Bears fans say the Lions got screwed at Soldier Field, that alone should tell you how heinously wretched the call was.

  344. chad says: Sep 15, 2010 12:12 PM

    i dont understand how people are blaming the refs…according to the rules they got the call right….it was the rule that is a little bit off….so before you post a dumbass comment, understand what it is that happened….theres tons of idiots on this site

  345. rarson says: Sep 15, 2010 2:31 PM

    “according to the rules they got the call right”
    No, they didn’t. The rule states “he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground”. Johnson had control the whole time. His ass hit the ground and he STILL had control of the ball.
    The rest of the rule mentioned above doesn’t even apply here, because he never lost control.

  346. kindbek says: Sep 15, 2010 4:24 PM

    What’s important here is that he got to celebrate for an extra half second. That’s more important than winning.

  347. ARCPower says: Sep 15, 2010 5:47 PM

    @chad call urself an idiot, not the people expressing the CORRECT opinion. He caught the ball, landed on his back in the end zone with complete control, then turned over and put the ball on the ground as he was getting up. Because he was in the END ZONE he is down on his back, the ball already crossed the goal line. Touchdown end of story with the rules as they are.

  348. eyefeeler says: Sep 15, 2010 7:17 PM

    It was a catch; no question about it. The rule is there for plays with more question marks and they lost the points because of a bad rule. All rules and calls aside: don’t throw the effin ball at the wall; just get up and celebrate. WTF are you doing?

  349. MrSir says: Sep 15, 2010 10:12 PM

    The referee that reversed the call was either gambling on the game and/ or was up against megatron and had the Bears “d” in FF this week . That would explain arguably, one of the worst calls ever made in the history of the NFL. All kidding aside,The problem is bigger then the “rule” Other players, coaches and teams with history get that call. Thats what is so pathetic about NFL officiating. Whether it’s human nature or not, it’s the hierarchy or chain of command that permits these calls to stand that needs to change. Could you imagine the black eye the NFL would have had to deal with had the catch been allowed to stand ? Images of the Cleveland beer bottle shower come to mind. Shame on the NFL and its spineless officials.

  350. SmurfJuice says: Sep 16, 2010 9:08 AM

    MattStaffordWillSaveUs brings up an incredibly good point. If it were outside of the final two minutes, I truly do not believe even Lovie is dumb enough to challenge that.
    On the flipside, if it was initially ruled a no-TD on the field, would Schwartz have challenged? Absolutely.

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