Comments on: Week One Monday 10-pack

By: DonnyBoy

DonnyBoy — Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:01:22 +0000

Shadenfreuder says:
September 14, 2010 11:15 AM
“presarc says:
The Lions got jobbed. It it were the Cowboys, Patriots, or Jets, this would be very, very different, and everyone knows it.”
Yeah, true. Oh, by the way, why were there only 31 picks in the 2007 draft? The answer is because the NFL loves the Patriots soooo much that they stripped them of a pick for spygate. I guess you could call it tough love.
Also, if it were a Patriots receiver they would have held onto the ball until TD was signalled. It’s called coaching. They don’t make mental errors.
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Seriously?
The Pats missed their pick because they were phucking CHEATING.
What have you done since Bellecheat was forced to stop cheating to win????
Uhhhh – NOTHING!

By: Shadenfreuder

Shadenfreuder — Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:15:22 +0000

“presarc says:
The Lions got jobbed. It it were the Cowboys, Patriots, or Jets, this would be very, very different, and everyone knows it.”
Yeah, true. Oh, by the way, why were there only 31 picks in the 2007 draft? The answer is because the NFL loves the Patriots soooo much that they stripped them of a pick for spygate. I guess you could call it tough love.
Also, if it were a Patriots receiver they would have held onto the ball until TD was signalled. It’s called coaching. They don’t make mental errors.

By: Livinginclip

Livinginclip — Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:08:34 +0000

All I’m adding is this.
If the NFL doesn’t do something about how Reid handled the concussions of TWO players in ONE game, then they aren’t really all that conceded about player safety. Bradley had one of the most obvious concussions I’ve seen. The man couldn’t even stand up!

By: Company CEO

Company CEO — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 23:32:40 +0000

Mike Pereira … the there’s a paragon of virtue! Thank God he’s gone. I don’t think that this guy ever did anything right in the entire time that he held the job. In fact, in most cases, he made things more confusing, less rational, and just plain worse.
Why is it that a multi-billion dollar business can’t adopt rules that have some sense of reason and clarity. It appears to me that many of these great rules (e.g., this “catch” rule, the “tuck”rule) are simply in place so that officials can “rightfully” determine game outcomes in favor of the chosen (e.g., either NY team, Patriots, Bears) at the expense of the less-favored teams (any west coast team, the unwashed like the Lions). Disgusting!!

By: forthnoggin

forthnoggin — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:40:24 +0000

Barron didn’t do the right thing… he screwed up his blocking assignment, and that’s why he had to hold him. If he did his job, he could have protected Romo w/o penalizing.

By: vikings=worstfranchiseandfans

vikings=worstfranchiseandfans — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:24:23 +0000

Why wouldn’t florihole want to throw out week one? After all his precious viqueens got punked.
Do you think it would have made his top ten if they could have managed an upset.
No objectivity at all, but that’s what we come to expect.

By: superb owl

superb owl — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:40:39 +0000

the saying goes “the ground cannot cause a fumble… but it can cause an incompletion”.
bad call… and not just cause i live north of daytwa. he had possession for quite a while after touching the ball.
as a local commentator said, how come that wasnt a td when u can barely break the (end zone) plane with the ball on a play, then fumble it, and get 6 points for that…
where i work, process is the big thing now, not results. all pereira etc can talk about is “process”.
fook pereira.
what do ya call 300 (wanna-be) lawyers (or process control devotees) at the bottom of the sea? a good start.

By: AlphaQ2

AlphaQ2 — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:47:24 +0000

crazyguy says:
September 13, 2010 11:20 AM
“Throw out Week One.”
Really? Then that would make week 2… er, week 1. Would we have to through that one out too?
Just like in everything else, there has to be a start and a finish. Week 1 is the start and you’d better have your act together otherwise someone named Arian is gong to run all over your arses.
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Haha. Do you really think he will run like that against any NFC East team? Keep dreaming, it was the Colts. Anyone can run on them. Not saying that Houston isn’t good, but NFC East football is different than what they are used to. They may win against an NFC East team, but they will get punched in the mouth during the process. That’s just the way the NFC Beast rolls.
Warning to Arian Foster…Stay away from Landry…He is bad for your health.

By: fastfred21

fastfred21 — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:38:43 +0000

ok–so the rules states that the player must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground–seems to me he had clearly contacted the ground with more than one body part–and what was he sitting on before he tried to use the ball to get up? I’ll call that the ref that made the call

By: TheBuzzOnNY.com

TheBuzzOnNY.com — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:56:14 +0000

The Lions got screwed in a big way. Calvin Johnson caught the ball, got both feet down, his knee touched and the hand the ball was not in touched. He never bobbled the ball with his other hand. Had complete possession until he put on the ground. Horrible call.

By: carlaskeeper

carlaskeeper — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:45:45 +0000

florio bech72 is right and another thing that is right a right tackle is called a right tackle because he’s on the right side Romo is right handed now you can say Romo would have got sacked but I think he saw him coming from the right

By: Ari

Ari — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:08:18 +0000

#7 . . . if the best example you can come up with is 8 years old, the odds are your point is lazy and “requires no original thought.”
Of course a W/L in Week 1 doesn’t make or break a season, but I’m under the impression that the same teams who win or lose in Week 1 are generally the same teams that win/lose in Weeks 4, 7, 11, or 14.

By: liquidgrammar

liquidgrammar — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:50:00 +0000

My son and I watched that Eagles game, and even WE knew that Stewart Bradley was concussed!!! That decision to put him back in is about as egregious as saying Andy Reid has slimmed down this year!! We watched in horror…… And my son is 17!!!!

By: DasBoot504

DasBoot504 — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:46:11 +0000

@seaner44,
Actually don’t have Sunday ticket, but if I did I wouldn’t waste my time watching a sorry ass Lions/Bears game. But since you have nothing to offer to the actual conversation let me point out to you that whomever through the pass was irrelevant b/c it wasn’t a catch by NFL rule and wasn’t even in the same category as Lance Moore’s catch in the SuperBowl. Florio is still a whiny bitch b/c he is still constantly trying to find ways to trivialize the Saints win(S) over the Vikings and now Dungy is trying to play the what if card on the outcome of a game that he predicted very wrongly and by comparing apples and oranges…and the fact that Florio makes a living by referencing other peoples reporting and Dungy made a career out of Mannings arm and Kiffin’s Defensive schemes, which while defending against Rex Grossman might have been overkill. So I stand by my original post.
But if you persist there is still room on the list for one more.

By: FriarBob

FriarBob — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:32:38 +0000

Would you please quit blowing smoke about the Lance More catch-that-really-was-a-catch? You’re wrong, and you have to know it, but your WhineQueen pride won’t let you admit it.
“If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.”
Game. Set. Match. But I’ll explain anyway, just to help you figure it out, since you apparently can’t on your own.
Lance Moore caught the ball. He fell to the ground. He lost control. He regained control and the ball broke the plane. At that point the play is over. It’s already 2 points. Everything afterward doesn’t matter. But if it did, it still would be a catch. Because then he was touched down by the Colt DB (his leg hit Lance’s hands while Lance was lying on the ground with the ball breaking the plane). And only then, after having the ball literally kicked out of his hands, did the ball squirt free. So since he was touched down, the play would have been dead at that point before he lost control of the ball (for the second time). Either way, it’s still a catch.
Lance’s catch was a catch. So was Calvin Johnson’s. Unfortunately, the Lions got jobbed by the bad phrasing and confused officials. And hopefully since it actually did cost somebody a game they did “actually” win even if “officially” they didn’t, maybe now the competition committee will do what they should have done years ago and finally fix the stupid rule.

By: ChicagoJo

ChicagoJo — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:27:52 +0000

I think we all know that SHOULD have been a TD. HOwever, it was NOT a blown call by the Refs. They simply enforced a BS NFL rule about catches in the end zone that has plagued us for years.
The same thing happened to Greg Jennings when we played GB at home last year. It is an awful rule, but as a receiver Calvin Johnson is supposed to know it. Referees come to each training camp to explain it. That’s what our coaches and his coaches said about the play, and I’m sure he’d admit it himself.
One of two things happened at the end of that play
1) He dropped that ball at the end of the catch and the rule worked the way it was supposed to. (unlikely)
2) He got up to celebrate and made the mental error of releasing the football in the process. Like DeSean Jackson dropping the ball at the 1 yard line last season, Calvin Johnson cost his team the game.
PFT, you make a good point about the “2nd act” move of rolling over and putting the ball down, but caught the ball while falling, the momentum of his fall rolled him over, and he ended the rolling motion with the football hitting the ground which is probably why it squirted out.
One fluid motion that should be called a catch but isn’t according to the rule. One stupid move by an elite receiver who is paid millions to know better.

By: Tdk24

Tdk24 — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:15:36 +0000

What ever happened to the ground can’t cause a fumble?
Said Pereira at the time: “By rule, when a receiver with possession of the ball is in the act of going to the ground and performs a second act by reaching out to break the plane, that completes the process of the catch and the ball is dead when it breaks the plane.”
Why is it not the same for a guy that is already in the endzone? When the ball get’s to him, it’s already “crossed the plane”. Therefore the very second he has possession and has both feet down, it should be a TD. It’s not like in the center of the field where a guy needs to catch the ball and then make a football move to be considered a catch. Otherwise you would never get the TD catch where a guy just has his tip toes in bounds before he falls out of bounds.
The rule book really needs to be simplified if they are to grow this sport in the future.
If this kind of stuff happens in week 2, then by rule i will never give the NFL 1 more cent.

By: Pestilence1972

Pestilence1972 — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:15:04 +0000

If there is still so much subjectivity around the NFL Rules for what constitutes a reception, why doesn’t the NFL just do away with those reception rules and have the referee make a subjective call simply around whether or not the receiver made a catch. So, instead of debating whether the ball hit the ground and compromised the reception based on that particular rule, why not debate at a higher level: did he make the catch or not?
My point is that it is subjective anyway. Why not make the subjective call a referee opinion of whether it is a catch or not? The reality is that we all can see whether it is a catch. The rules seem to get in the way of the reality that we all know whether it is a catch. All we need to do is look at the replay.

By: Art Van Delay's brother

Art Van Delay's brother — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:03:44 +0000

I’m counting the days for Ben Roethlisberger’s return after the Falcons game. Dennis Dixon was average at best yesterday. I counted three missed interceptions and half a dozen misreads of wide open receivers.
Forget Red Zone TV and fantasy stats, if you watched the ENTIRE game including the sideline shots you know Ben’s the guy. The next game on the road in Tennessee will be difficult for the offense but the defense will hold the running of CJ and VY to less than 120 yds…close game with a Steeler’s victory!

By: if yer not first...

if yer not first... — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:00:25 +0000

5. Broncos, Steelers take advantage of non-timeout timeout.
Mike, you really need some copy editing help – this should actually read -
McDaniel, Tomlin cheat by feigning ignorance.
Ignorance of the rule is no excuse – these guys should be charged a timeout or penalized.

By: jebdamone

jebdamone — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:47:04 +0000

i don’t give a crap what anyone else says about it or the rules….megatron obviously made that catch and released it at the point he would to celebrate his game winning TD. that was absolute bullshit, kitties got screwed.

By: froggy

froggy — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:36:14 +0000

Mike and Gregg,
Do you guys even watch the games? Or do you just poach stories and editorials about them? The 49ers looked as bad and clueless as a team could look. You don’t just disregard that like it means nothing.

By: j-daddy

j-daddy — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:21:01 +0000

The stir the Dixon/Ben/Steelers pot crap needs to stop. Dixon was terrible yesterday. He had one pick and was lucky not to have three more. The Steelers probably used about 10% of their offense too.
Ben is a quarterback in the Manning/Brady/Brees category. He’s not Kyle Orton. For better or for worse, he’s the franchise, and a two time Super Bowl winner (that’s one more than Manning and one more than Brees). If Dixon goes 4-0 and plays every game like he did yesterday there will be no controversy.

By: Cdiggy

Cdiggy — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:19:17 +0000

How do you exploit without having intention to do so? Effing Bonehead…

By: JimmySmith

JimmySmith — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:17:57 +0000

Rule 3 is just plain dumb. First of all, its a draft pick, who knows how those things turn out. You didn’t look at the reverse side of the deal, what did the Vikings get in return for giving up the #30 pick and lastly, do you really think one player is going to make a difference for the Lions. Exhibit A on my side of the arguement is Barry Sanders, little good it did the Lions for a lot of years. If the Vikings don’t beat the Lions, Childress should be fired the very next day.

By: LowVoltage

LowVoltage — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:14:19 +0000

The bigger significance of the 49ers loss to Seattle is that it has caused internal chaos in the 9ers organization. Smith is publicly calling the coaching staff bumbling morons, while the coaching staf is claiming Smith and Crabtree stunk it up. This wasn’t just a simple loss.

By: Popeye

Popeye — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:13:22 +0000

you are like a jedi…you can tell romo was getting sacked and there was no way romo would have avoided it……amazing powers you have

By: njhitman

njhitman — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:10:38 +0000

What nothing about Batgirl and her bitch Robin . How they left the field before the fist half ended and went into the lockerroom to wipe each others tears

By: umrguy42

umrguy42 — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:09:10 +0000

As a Rams fan (and thus, formerly subjected to Alex Barron’s penalties), I agree with Bech72 – I don’t think there was any “consideration” to Barron doing the holding. I doubt there is in MOST cases when the talking heads say “it was a good penalty to take” – I’d like to hear whether a defender really takes 2 seconds to analyze “hey, if I interfere with this guy right now, they only get X yards and a first down, versus them getting a TD”, or if they think “he’s got me beat, I better grab him!”
In Barron’s case, had his holding NOT been seen, I’m pretty sure it would be another example of the old adage “even a blind squirrel will find acorns occasionally” (or however that goes)… except it WAS called, so it’s just another case of “Barron being Barron the drive killer”….

By: Bing253

Bing253 — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:07:17 +0000

On the 49ers thing they play the Saints next week so they could be 0-2 which really hurts their chances of making the playoffs-they got destroyed by the Seahawks