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Reggie Bush gives up Heisman, blames "persistent media speculation," admits "mistakes"

On the same day that the Heisman Trophy Trust conducted its monthly meeting, the 2005 winner of the award for which the trust is named announced that he will give up the prize.

The move comes at a time when Yahoo! Sports reported that the Heisman
Trophy Trust would decide to strip the award from Bush.  The chronology
permits an inference that the Heisman Trophy Trust decided to take the
award away, and that they gave Bush a chance to surrender it first.

But Bush was strident, not contrite, in relinquishing the prize.  For more, here’s the full content of his comments, with some of our thoughts interspersed were appropriate.

“One of the greatest honors of my life was winning the Heisman Trophy in
2005. For me, it was a dream come true,” Bush said in a statement released by the Saints.  “But I know that the Heisman is not mine alone.  Far from it.  I know that
my victory was made possible by the discipline and hard work of my
teammates, the steady guidance of my coaches, the inspiration of the
fans, and the unconditional love of my family and friends.  And I know
that any young man fortunate enough to win the Heisman enters into a
family of sorts.  Each individual carries the legacy of the award and
each one is entrusted with its good name. 
It is for these reasons that I have made the difficult decision to
forfeit my title as Heisman winner of 2005.  The persistent media
speculation regarding allegations dating back to my years at USC has
been both painful and distracting.  In no way should the storm around
these allegations reflect in any way on the dignity of this award, nor
on any other institutions or individuals.  Nor should it distract from
outstanding performances and hard-earned achievements either in the
past, present or future.”

So, in other words, Bush is giving it back not because he did anything wrong, but because “persistent media speculation” has undermined the “dignity of the award.”

“For the rest of my days,” Bush added, “I will continue to strive to demonstrate
through my actions and words that I was deserving of the confidence
placed in me by the Heisman Trophy Trust.  I would like to begin in this
effort by turning a negative situation into a positive one by working
with the Trustees to establish an educational program which will assist
student-athletes and their families avoid some of the mistakes that I
made.  I am determined to view this event as an opportunity to help
others and to advance the values and mission of the Heisman Trophy
Trust.”

And there it is.  For the first time, and after years of blunt denials, Bush has admitted that he made “mistakes,” the biggest of which was to take money and other things of value from a prospective marketing agency and then fail to pay any of it back when deciding not to hire the agency in question.

“I will forever appreciate the honor bestowed upon me as a winner of the
Heisman,” Bush said.  “While this decision is heart-breaking, I find solace in knowing
that the award was made possible by the support and love of so many. 
Those are gifts that can never be taken away.”

Regardless of the words used by Bush, the end result is that he’s giving up the Heisman, he’s blaming “persistent media speculation” about the situation for the move, and he’s finally admitting that he made “mistakes.”

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  1. Nola North says: Sep 14, 2010 5:01 PM

    You earned this Reggie! Watch the tape!! You were the BEST athlete period.. Because you took money does that really make you a pro at that time? Yes.. a pro at whooping ass on the field!!!

  2. TylerDurden says: Sep 14, 2010 5:04 PM

    Wow, even when somebody does something that you think they should do, you have a little baby-fit about it. You truly are a lawyer….

  3. Bech72 says: Sep 14, 2010 5:05 PM

    He earned it on the field, this whole thing is BS. If they give it to VY then all it means is that he was the 2nd best player in the NCAA.

  4. merrillhodgestoupee says: Sep 14, 2010 5:05 PM

    Thats right, blame everyone except yourself….Good Job Reggie, you fit in well down in New Orleans..

  5. se18a29 says: Sep 14, 2010 5:06 PM

    Cheating punk… now arrest the Saints drug dealing coaching staff…

  6. JustDieBaby says: Sep 14, 2010 5:06 PM

    The crypt keeper Al Davis likes to collect Heisman trophy winners. If they arent gonna do anything with the trophy. I am sure Al would pay big $$ for it. He might even give it to one of his “great playaa’s”, dhBUST…..

  7. JerryDignan says: Sep 14, 2010 5:07 PM

    “I would like to begin in this effort by turning a negative situation into a positive one by working with the Trustees to establish an educational program which will assist student-athletes and their families avoid some of the mistakes that I made.”
    Yes. There needs be be a program established where the NCAA rules are clearly explained to the athletes. That’s the problem. Not enough access to the rules.
    So really, it’s the Heisman Trust’s fault for not doing it sooner for Reggie to benefit from. And Reggie loves benefiting from things.

  8. Go Saints says: Sep 14, 2010 5:08 PM

    Why not just give the report instead of your incesent biased opinions?

  9. scra22 says: Sep 14, 2010 5:08 PM

    I’m sure this story will be filled with hateful comments about him in no time, but I will just say that since coming to New Orleans, Reggie has been humble, a team player, has never complained, and does MUCH for the community.
    He seems like a genuinely nice guy. No one is perfect.

  10. Dealer says: Sep 14, 2010 5:08 PM

    Maybe you will stop grandstanding now. Do I believe that? Nope.

  11. Dbellina says: Sep 14, 2010 5:09 PM

    Good, give it to Vince Young.

  12. RobF2010 says: Sep 14, 2010 5:09 PM

    Yawn

  13. Saintsarebest says: Sep 14, 2010 5:09 PM

    you don’t need it man. you have a super bowl trofy and there are a couple more on the way. who dat!

  14. gmitch23 says: Sep 14, 2010 5:10 PM

    Dumb. We let Cushing keeps his Defensive ROY after using PEDs and we want Bush to give back his Heisman for getting money? Something that has nothing to do with performance? Come on….

  15. downwithdansnyder says: Sep 14, 2010 5:11 PM

    Bush is a douche.

  16. Scott Robinson - On Further Review says: Sep 14, 2010 5:11 PM

    For a guy whose NFL career has mostly been defined by returning kicks, he did the only thing left to do – punt.

  17. Nosredna says: Sep 14, 2010 5:11 PM

    A sad day!
    On the field, he was the best there was that year, as voted on by others. A shame that what happened off the field, that made absolutely difference on how he played the game would lead to something like this.
    My opinion, no one should get the award now for that year, leave it in limbo. What man in his right mind would want it now, to be the winner by default.

  18. j4a1 says: Sep 14, 2010 5:12 PM

    “But Bush was strident, not contrite, in relinquishing the prize.”
    Huh? I could have sworn he said he made mistakes. AND he gave the trophy back. What do you want? Blood?
    I think he’s doing the right thing. It’s a tough situation. He got caught. How many didnt’?

  19. BostonISaChraphole says: Sep 14, 2010 5:13 PM

    Florio has the hugest boner right now…

  20. BAtkins63 says: Sep 14, 2010 5:13 PM

    Jeez, All of the BS out of this douche’. Simply put, I was not an eligible student-athlete at the time this award was given, therefor I was a douche’ for accepting it.
    Simple and to the point. But then again it’s Reggie “I’m not running between the tackles” Bush. He’s used to dancing around and losing yardage. Good ridance, punk.

  21. LL Live says: Sep 14, 2010 5:14 PM

    Somewhere Vince Young is planning a tequilla party

  22. REGGIE BUSH says: Sep 14, 2010 5:14 PM

    Why you always giving me crap MF! i FINALLY DIDI THE RIGHT THING. i PROMISE i WON’T EVER SPEAK TO MRS. FLORIO AGAIN, JUST HAD TO THROW THAT ONE IN!

  23. Snowplow says: Sep 14, 2010 5:17 PM

    fag.

  24. SomeFans says: Sep 14, 2010 5:18 PM

    tool…. who dat they is

  25. GregO says: Sep 14, 2010 5:18 PM

    Hey Florio now maybe you can finally lay the Bush story aside direct some of your zealousness down to Gainesville and the amateur corrections facility that Urban Meyer is apparently running down there (29 arrests of his players) Then again Matt Leinart is still in the NFL so perhaps we should wait until his career is over before you divide your focus with other things.

  26. Joe says: Sep 14, 2010 5:19 PM

    lmao….
    he should just drive it over to VY’s house…
    he deserved it anyway…as shown by the championship game that year Vince was the best and most important player on the best team in the country….
    usc sucks!!!!
    go UT!

  27. Sting Ray says: Sep 14, 2010 5:25 PM

    Reggie Bush = Man without honor

  28. Neverend says: Sep 14, 2010 5:26 PM

    More mistakes would include being severely overrated, a tentative runner, afraid of contact, one dimensional, can’t pass protect, hardly ever punishes LBs, runs with no power, can’t break tackles, can’t run inside at all, hits hole too fast or too slow, not patient, and he’s a darn 3rd down back when he was the freaking 2nd overall pick.
    Perhaps he should consider apologizing for being such a bust, then also consider retiring.

  29. Grkboiler says: Sep 14, 2010 5:27 PM

    They can’t take the SuperBowl ring away

  30. TheFALZ says: Sep 14, 2010 5:28 PM

    blame the system, the player put up heismen numbers.

  31. jjcruiser says: Sep 14, 2010 5:29 PM

    I don’t care about CFB very much, and have barely followed this stuff, but I don’t understand why he should give back an award for his success on the field for stuff he did off it. Did OJ give his back? Then who cares if Reggie Bush had a nice car?

  32. Because I Care says: Sep 14, 2010 5:30 PM

    Hey Florio, nobody cares if he admits mistakes. Nobody cares if he blames the media. In fact, nobody cares about the blow-hard media at all. Just report the damn story and keep your opinions to yourself. You would have done the same thing if you were put in Bush’s situation. You didn’t come from where Bush came from. You don’t get to choose your family. Please dismount your high horse and come live with the genral public in reality. It’s awesome.

  33. gavinmac says: Sep 14, 2010 5:31 PM

    Does “forfeit my title as Heisman winner” mean “return the trophy”? He doesn’t say “I have returned the trophy” or “I will return the trophy.”

  34. Allied Biscuit says: Sep 14, 2010 5:31 PM

    Kim’s ass has some open real estate now

  35. jknock625 says: Sep 14, 2010 5:32 PM

    As long as those Heisman idiots let OJ keep his name on the list, then Reggie’s name should be on the list too.

  36. Mark0226 says: Sep 14, 2010 5:33 PM

    His performance on the field that year won the award. He knows it, you know it, the entire world knows it (except UT fans). Can’t take that away from him.

  37. jackstraw7777 says: Sep 14, 2010 5:35 PM

    The Heisman’s a joke. The proof is that almost all the players chosen for this award never make it as a Pro, Bush nonwithstanding. It’s funny how many great college players can’t get it done at the next level. Bush has made it as Pro. He’s a very good player.

  38. Pervy H. says: Sep 14, 2010 5:36 PM

    1 down and 1 to go…..now give up the SB trophy to the Vikings Saints,it’s the right thing to do…

  39. honeysuckle says: Sep 14, 2010 5:37 PM

    Florio is not going to be happy until Reggie is thrown in the public stockades & beaten within an inch of his life. Giving it back…not enough….admitting he made mistakes….not enough. Florio you can’t milk this storyline any longer. It’s over. Give it a rest.

  40. JerryDignan says: Sep 14, 2010 5:42 PM

    I think they should retroactively strip the Heisman from every other player that won it who turned out to be a really crappy pro too.

  41. Great Falconi says: Sep 14, 2010 5:43 PM

    He made the right move.
    The 2005 Heisman should remain forever vacant. The voters chose the winner. Second place didn’t earn it.

  42. quadya says: Sep 14, 2010 5:44 PM

    florio you are such a hater

  43. Roger-NOLA says: Sep 14, 2010 5:46 PM

    Hey moron. We don’t care about your opinions. Just give us some damn news.

  44. Rowdymon says: Sep 14, 2010 5:48 PM

    The Heisman trust is leaning towards Mario Williams…

  45. JИD says: Sep 14, 2010 5:48 PM

    Man, there are some И.O. Saints haters out there. Reggie didn’t make 0.01% of what the USC athletic dept. made from having him there.
    Who Dat! We Dat! Been Dare, Done Dat!

  46. esl4891 says: Sep 14, 2010 5:48 PM

    big deal. he still won the damn thing, even though he doesn’t have the trophy and his name is not on the list of winners. Why do people care so much about this nonsense?

  47. justus101 says: Sep 14, 2010 5:51 PM

    who cares , evrybody acts like he’s the first person to take money.

  48. PurplePeopleBeaters says: Sep 14, 2010 5:52 PM

    Pervy H. says:
    September 14, 2010 5:36 PM
    1 down and 1 to go…..now give up the SB trophy to the Vikings Saints,it’s the right thing to do…
    ———————————————–
    Vikings are 0-1…concentrate on THIS season. Besides, Vikings would’ve gotten their asses KICKED in the Super Bowl.

  49. FinFan68 says: Sep 14, 2010 5:53 PM

    I am in no way advocating that players accept money from agents, but, if Bush took money because he promised to allow that agency to represent him when he turned pro, how does that make him a “paid athlete” in college? It would make sense if they paid him to go to USC but they didn’t. They gambled on the future and lost. I’m not saying what Bush did was right. I think agents are ruining sports.

  50. Hayward G says: Sep 14, 2010 5:55 PM

    This Heisman fiasco typifies the ugliness of American culture in the 21st century:
    An individual, a team performs on the field, does great things, creates lasting images. The media builds it up, gets bored with it, and plots the team/individual’s destruction, and tries to rewrite history and the record books. See Bill Belichick, the Patriots, the 2009 Saints, now Reggie Bush.
    Just pathetic. Bush won it on the field, and we all know he won the Heisman and is the rightful honoree. And if the media gave a damn about integrity, then they’d be investigating this stuff when it happened rather than years after the fact when their bored and looking for someone else to bury.
    Media=Satan

  51. Kjjnesb says: Sep 14, 2010 6:00 PM

    Dang Florio dude gave it back thats what you wanted right….You act like the dude stole your wife or something lol

  52. SF Saints Fan says: Sep 14, 2010 6:06 PM

    TylerDurden says:
    “Wow, even when somebody does something that you think they should do, you have a little baby-fit about it. You truly are a lawyer….”
    Perfectly stated.
    Bush decided to end the soap opera and concentrate on what really matters. Repeating as Super Bowl Champions. Well done Reggie.
    Get over it Florio.

  53. NoRingForYou says: Sep 14, 2010 6:11 PM

    Pervy H. says:
    September 14, 2010 5:36 PM
    1 down and 1 to go…..now give up the SB trophy to the Vikings Saints,it’s the right thing to do…
    Makes sense that you and the rest of your piss poor fanbase, coaches and players would rather have the trophy given to you instead of earning it. Of course that would be the only way you will ever see it. I bet Chilly will find something in this to cry about. He was the best player hands down. The media did this. They just couldnt leave it alone. As far as I am care they should pay these damn kids while they are in school. They bring more to the schools and NCAA as a whole than anything else. Nobody piles in these stadiums on Saturday afternoons to see some math student solving problems. I liked the comments I heard on the radio the other day, how bout if the NCAA and USC have such a problem with what was done here then they give up all cash they made from games, bowl game and jerseys that they should of Reggie’s that year?

  54. Str8CashHomie says: Sep 14, 2010 6:12 PM

    I hope he explodes this year and wins the MVP so all this can be put to rest

  55. Deb says: Sep 14, 2010 6:14 PM

    I like Reggie, but the Heisman is not awarded for performance alone; the mission statement includes a morals clause. This wasn’t a plane ticket to a party or a one-time gift. Reggie knew what he was doing and needs to accept that he brought this on himself.
    Now it’s done. The award shouldn’t go to anyone else, and this episode should not be held against Bush’s pro career. Perhaps he can serve as a role model. But Goodell can drop his nonsense about staining the shield as long as the league continues doing business with agents and marketers who target NCAA players. If the NFL starts banning them as Saban and other college coaches have asked, there won’t be another incident like this one. Reggie shouldn’t be taking this fall alone.

  56. Ryans Rampage says: Sep 14, 2010 6:16 PM

    Are you guys really that retarded?
    The trophy is given out to outstanding amatuer college football atheletes, and what did Bush do? He broke the rules and was no longer eligible for that season and beyond. (By taking the money, no longer eligible to be an amateur athelete for those who cant think)
    Doesnt matter what the asshat did on the field, there are still rules in place that have to be followed. He broke the rules and it should have been decided long ago to take this trophy away.

  57. prmpft says: Sep 14, 2010 6:17 PM

    …all good stuff (i’m sure – but i’m not reading them all) – if this has been said – then, i agree…but no matter what happened – or what the result was – he still won the damn thing and number two was still the first loser!!!…GEAUX REGGIE!!!!

  58. gazretired says: Sep 14, 2010 6:18 PM

    I’m with you, Florio. Blaming the messenger is a disingenuous way to deflect the onus.

  59. rnls105 says: Sep 14, 2010 6:20 PM

    By no means am I a fan of USC. But I am a fan of college football. The Heisman Trophy Trust is just wrong with their attitude about all this. What does that show of their integrity, to force him to give up the trophy without having real facts, instead of just
    accusations and allegations? Regardless of IF HE DID – or – IF HE DID NOT participate in any of these actions during his tenure at USC? At the present, Reggie should be allowed to keep the Heisman Trophy until any these are proven otherwise. As it stands (for the moment) these are nothing but accusations and allegations and have yet to be proven as facts. The unquestionable fact that whatever it was that transpired, it was off the field. It was his performance of what he accomplished on the gridiron is why he was awarded the trophy. The man did earn the Heisman for playing football.

  60. sportsbruh3 says: Sep 14, 2010 6:21 PM

    Reggie Bush is a ESPN construct.
    All we heard during 2005 was USC AND Reggie Bush….then Vince Young came along and Beat them down in a thriller of a NCAA Championship game.
    It was ESPN 24/7 puffing up the wonderous physical capabilities of Reggie Bush – as if he was the 2nd messiah. KNOWING he was NOT an every down back.
    AND
    Reggie Bush’s GREEDY a.r. s. e. family….and their deceitful ways of capitalizing off their Golden Egg.
    I put most of the blame on Bush’s unwashed step-father. Dude is just a greedy consumer.

  61. OranjelloJones says: Sep 14, 2010 6:31 PM

    Because I Care says: September 14, 2010 5:30 PM
    “Hey Florio, nobody cares if he admits mistakes. Nobody cares if he blames the media. In fact, nobody cares about the blow-hard media at all. Just report the damn story and keep your opinions to yourself.”
    # Roger-NOLA says: September 14, 2010 5:46 PM
    “Hey moron. We don’t care about your opinions. Just give us some damn news.”
    Note to PFT Village Idiots:
    If you don’t like reading opinions about news stories then don’t go to a freakin’ BLOG to get your news. Go to a straight news site, blogs are DESIGNED for commentary you monumental nitwits. You might as well go for broke and call someone stupid while misspelling “stupid”, like the genius who did it with “intellect” a few entries ago.

  62. Deadeye says: Sep 14, 2010 6:32 PM

    Reggie Bush truly is a douche. He denied, denied, denied, and denied. Now that his coveted award was in danger of being stripped away, he denies yet again, but then adds that he “made mistakes”. How stupid does he think we are? Oh wait, his defenders ARE that stupid. Reggie is the real life black knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. After having both arms and legs cut off the black knight says “We’ll call it a draw”.
    Out of morbid curiousity, would some enterprising reporter please ask Bush what “mistakes” he was referring to if it wasn’t breaking the rules?
    P.S. – The Heisman is a joke mainly because the votes are cast before the season is over. Had the vote been taken after the USC/Texas game, as it should have, everyone knows Vince Young would have been the deserving winner. Give it to VY.

  63. vaultmusic says: Sep 14, 2010 6:36 PM

    # Pervy H. says: September 14, 2010 5:36 PM
    1 down and 1 to go…..now give up the SB trophy to the Vikings Saints,it’s the right thing to do…
    Geez dude, get over it! The Saints BEAT the Colts in the Super Bowl. You think the Vikings would have automatically beaten the Colts?
    You think Favre would have been ready for that game? He left everything he had in the Superdome that night…
    All the off-season hype didn’t help this year either…They have no respect for their head coach…With Favre, the Vikings were built to win last year and DIDN’T. The future of that franchise was mortgaged for an flaky indecisive diva who should have gotten his ass in training camp to get valuable work with his teammates. You really want to depend on a guy to be your leader who you had to BEG to come back?
    Welcome to 2010.
    Saints 1-0
    Vikings 0-1
    No more, no less…no excuses…

  64. Florios'Lawyer says: Sep 14, 2010 6:43 PM

    # jknock625 says: September 14, 2010 5:32 PM
    “As long as those Heisman idiots let OJ keep his name on the list, then Reggie’s name should be on the list too.”
    +1

  65. Spotts1701 says: Sep 14, 2010 6:51 PM

    “Did OJ give his back? Then who cares if Reggie Bush had a nice car? ”
    What does O.J. Simpson have to do with this? His off-the-field conduct was DECADES after he won the Heisman.
    Bush’s conduct was illegal under NCAA rules AT THE TIME HE WON THE AWARD. You can argue the rules are stupid, the rules are antiquated, that student-athletes are getting cheated by the system…but the rules are the rules.
    “An individual shall be ineligible if he or she enters into a verbal or written agreement with an agent for representation in future professional sports negotiations that are to take place after the individual has completed his or her eligibility in that sport.”
    That seems to be pretty clear, doesn’t it?

  66. sweetnlow310 says: Sep 14, 2010 6:51 PM

    Yeah, because the money and cars that agents gave to him really affected the way he performed on the field, which is what earned him the trophy in the first place. The NCAA and articles like this are stupid. They should go after the agents who waived all the money in his face. What teenage kid wouldn’t take it?
    Bush is still the Heisman winner in my eyes and I will always be because he earned it on the field.

  67. vaultmusic says: Sep 14, 2010 6:59 PM

    # Neverend says: September 14, 2010 5:26 PM
    More mistakes would include being severely overrated, a tentative runner, afraid of contact, one dimensional, can’t pass protect, hardly ever punishes LBs, runs with no power, can’t break tackles, can’t run inside at all, hits hole too fast or too slow, not patient, and he’s a darn 3rd down back when he was the freaking 2nd overall pick.
    Perhaps he should consider apologizing for being such a bust, then also consider retiring.
    Uninformed ramblings…You have no idea what you are talking about. Did you watch any of the games last year?
    He made a mistake by being overrated? How can he control that? He would have been the #2 pick no matter who was picking in that slot that year.
    How is he such a bust? Consider retiring?
    He’s an exceptional athlete and a valuable member of the team…Loved by fans and teammates…
    Because of Reggie’s contributions, 4 high schools had a field to play their football seasons…A philanthropist…Gives back to his community…
    He helped create a buzz in New Orleans and contributed to the team selling out their stadium and have a waiting list for season tickets…He played key roles in several of the Saints victories last year, including the playoff victories against the Cards and Vikes…So what is he doesn’t gain 1500 yards rushing…He’s not superhuman, but he’s a rare athlete who can score anytime he touches the ball. He’s a player defensive coordinators have to account for…He opens the door for other player’s success…He’s low key and does his role…He also has a Super Bowl ring…

  68. 55horses says: Sep 14, 2010 7:00 PM

    And Florio is gonna give back his new trophy van for “mistakes” he has made in the past.
    Oh, wait, Florio protects himself by labeling his website one of “news and rumours”. As a result, Florio and mega-conglomerate NBC Sports cannot be asked to adhere to the truth because they admit ProFootballTalk isn’t about the truth.
    Reggie Bush, on the other hand, was a 20-year-old man who was awarded the Heisman Trophy by the Heisman Trophy Trust. Bush didn’t award himself the Heisman Trophy. Bush allegedly took nearly $300,000 in “gifts” to his family from a wannabe sports agent while playing at USC but he didn’t apply to win the Heisman Trophy.
    Other Heisman Trophy winners include OJ Simpson (if he did it.)
    But NBC Sports sees this as a time to seek “truth” and let Florio get all snarky, mean, and supercilious and rag on Bush giving the trophy back. It’s fine for NBC Sports to sponsor a “rumours” site which frequently makes factual errors, derides people for things as simple as their last names (Len Pastabelli, anyone?) but a 20-year-old kid is wrong for accepting a trophy and then giving it back for allegedly violating rules he probably never was given an opportunity to read.
    Are all college football players given a complete copy of the NCAA rules governing their sport? Are they required to sign a document confirming they have read and understand the rules before they are allowed to play for any college team?
    Can’t wait for NBC Football and Religion and Ethics Night in America to thunder down the ultimate ruling on all of this.

  69. Gary Porpora says: Sep 14, 2010 7:04 PM

    Hayward G says:
    This Heisman fiasco typifies the ugliness of American culture in the 21st century:
    An individual, a team performs on the field, does great things, creates lasting images. The media builds it up, gets bored with it, and plots the team/individual’s destruction, and tries to rewrite history and the record books. See Bill Belichick, the Patriots, the 2009 Saints, now Reggie Bush.
    =============
    Look, you idiot. Bill Belichick got caught taping other teams signals. That is worse than anything Bush or anyone has done in sport. Bill Belichick cheated many teams out of their opportunity to make history. He cheated…
    He, the Patriots, and their trophies are tarnished because HE CHEATED!

  70. muchmaligned says: Sep 14, 2010 7:06 PM

    Remember when he dropped 513 yards on Fresno State?

  71. psychoraider904 says: Sep 14, 2010 7:08 PM

    He should be able to keep it. He did earn it. What kid in college wouldn’t except money from an agency? I know I would have. Atleast he didn’t test positive for steroids.

  72. andyprough says: Sep 14, 2010 7:10 PM

    When Bush gives his award back, there will be ZERO Heisman winners active in the NFL with a Super Bowl ring. Only three Heisman winners will have a starting job on an NFL team – Bradford, Woodson and Carson Palmer (four if you count Rickie Williams – but I call Ronnie Brown the starter in Miami).

  73. Maki says: Sep 14, 2010 7:15 PM

    Media making a big deal about this…but it changes nothing to what he did on the field.

  74. Mike says: Sep 14, 2010 7:17 PM

    this is an embarrassment. reggie bush deserves this heisman even though i havent liked him much over the years. he put his body on the line during those games. who would refuse free money????

  75. urteamsux says: Sep 14, 2010 7:37 PM

    Heisman trophy is garbage ,who f#k#n cares,reggie bush is garbage who f#k#n cares.

  76. Phil Wright says: Sep 14, 2010 7:41 PM

    So what? Let’s go get a goddamn snack.

  77. air_rodgers says: Sep 14, 2010 7:46 PM

    I personaly think he should have taken this line from meet the parents. He was wrong to give it back.
    Hey, hey, If you would take a second, take the little sticks out of your head, clean out your ears, and maybe you would see that I’m a person who has feelings, and all I have to do is do what I wanna do and all I want to do is hold on to my (heisman)* bag and not listen to you! And the only way that I would ever let go of my (heisman)* bag would be if you came over here right now and tried to pry it from my dead, lifeless fingers, okay? If you can get it from my kung-fu grip then you can come and have it, okay? Otherwise, step off, bitch.(the media)
    Greg Focker
    Meet the parents.

  78. buttondown says: Sep 14, 2010 7:46 PM

    Actually, I’m glad he did it. It’s one more distraction that he doesn’t need. He has his Super Bowl ring, makes more money than most of us will ever see in our lives, and does it playing a game he loves. Fantastic for him.
    What the NCAA and USC need to do now is forfeit all the money that they made off of selling the #5 USC jersey and the television advertising for USC games during that time period to set up scholarships for student athletes that forbid ANY contact with agents and marketing consultants prior to announcing their intention to turn pro.
    I really doubt that will happen, since the NCAA and colleges benefit financially too much from these outside interests. But hey, if they can just make Reggie Bush the whipping boy, everything is kosher, right? Watch out, UNC! You’re next!

  79. Reggie'sBush says: Sep 14, 2010 7:56 PM

    Reggie Bush will now be the MOST remembered Heisman WINNER of all time.
    Sort of like Armando Gallaraga’s imperfect Perfect game.

  80. NationalFelonLeague.com © says: Sep 14, 2010 7:57 PM

    Just a Heiaman with an asterisk. Pretty silly ordeal for everyone involved.

  81. Deb says: Sep 14, 2010 8:02 PM

    I like Reggie, but the Heisman is not awarded for performance alone; the mission statement includes a morals clause. This wasn’t a plane ticket to a party or a one-time gift. Reggie knew what he was doing and needs to accept that he brought this on himself.
    Now it’s done. The award shouldn’t go to anyone else, and this episode should not be held against Bush’s pro career. Perhaps he can serve as a role model. But Goodell can drop his nonsense about staining the shield as long as the league continues doing business with agents and marketers who target NCAA players. If the NFL starts banning them as Saban and other college coaches have asked, there won’t be another incident like this one. Reggie shouldn’t be taking this fall alone.

  82. burntorangehorn says: Sep 14, 2010 8:22 PM

    He shouldn’t have won it in the first place, and definitely would’ve lost it in a landslide had the voting taken place after the bowl games.
    Leave it vacant. Vince will accept it if it’s offered, but I firmly believe it should be left blank for purposes of furthering the dialogue against cheating.
    Finally, I’m really surprised there are actually Reggie Bush apologists. He cheated in a manner that should have cost him his eligibility, and the fact is that he WOULD NOT HAVE PLAYED IN THOSE GAMES in which he performed well enough to win the votes. And had he not played in them, he wouldn’t have won the trophy, because no one would’ve voted for a guy who didn’t play. There’s really no valid defense for Reggie Bush at this point.

  83. BigEasy says: Sep 14, 2010 8:26 PM

    Best player in ’05…..he was apart of what takes place in major college campuses everyday. Whether it’s a booster or potential agent. Reggie happened to get exposed by a low life how didn’t get paid off. 4-5 yrs later they deem him guilty.
    It’s funny how all these media types dump on guys like Reggie, when the truth is they’re jealous of the ability and accolades of someone like him. The guy is getting disrespected by his former college and he dumps the award and walks away with his head held high. So he helped his family out……big deal!!

  84. smokehouse says: Sep 14, 2010 8:33 PM

    Some people on this board believe rules are to be followed when convenient. NCAA is an amateur sport. Why should he have gotten money when others at USC had to work in a hamburger joint to get theirs. The media and the Bush boot licker’s put him on a pedestal. They think amateurism means take money and not be caught. The statements by many here are simple delusional.

  85. DonnyBoy says: Sep 14, 2010 8:34 PM

    I like Reggie, but the Heisman is not awarded for performance alone; the mission statement includes a morals clause. This wasn’t a plane ticket to a party or a one-time gift. Reggie knew what he was doing and needs to accept that he brought this on himself.
    **********************************
    Hypocrit alert!!!!!!!!!
    Does the NFL not also contain a morals clause?
    Yet according to you, for a certain Pittsburgh QB, nothing short of conviction and the death penalty should be considered an issue.
    Wow!

  86. WhichEverComesFirst says: Sep 14, 2010 8:35 PM

    Florihole, you are a complete tool. You and the Crykings deserve each other.
    Keep on keepin’ on, Reggie.

  87. GB3Pack4 says: Sep 14, 2010 8:37 PM

    Michael, why would you take issue with his use of the word “mistakes”? If that isn’t the right word, it’s surely the trendiest. I mean, you didn’t actually expect him to say, for example, I knew it was against the rules and I did it anyway, or, I kept the money and (other things of value) because I was pretty sure I could get away with it, or, “I just wanted it.”
    After all, it’s considered by some – many – hordes of people these days to be a sign of weakness to take responsibility for your actions.
    Get with it, Mike -

  88. Thorpie says: Sep 14, 2010 8:46 PM

    Look at all the Reggie haters, trying to make this into the crime of the century. An immature kid made a misake, the same mistake made by thousand of immature kids before him. The difference is that this kid got caught. He was the best player that year by a landslide and that alone is why he won the trophy.
    If they want to make this about morality and not performance, I’m sure there are a few previous winners who should be giving up their Heisman titles as well. Should we start with OJ? His performance was stellar, but his morality is, well, questionable. See how rediculous that sounds?
    At the end of the day, the best man won, the same man who has millions of fans (jersey sales don’t lie), millions of dollars and another, far more significant trophy to tell the grandkids about. Lombardi > Heisman.

  89. muchmaligned says: Sep 14, 2010 8:51 PM

    @Deb,
    I am continually impressed by your ability to talk out of both sides of your face. That is your face, isn’t it?

  90. Go Saints says: Sep 14, 2010 9:17 PM

    “Now that this is behind me I look forward to the future and winning more awards and championships here in New Orleans! Who Dat!” Bush tweeted.

  91. Vee says: Sep 14, 2010 9:24 PM

    Everything associated with college athletics just reeks of hypocrisy – thousands of people in numerous industries across America, acting all honorable as they become wealthy because of the indentured servitude system of getting poor kids to wreck their bodies on the gridiron for almost nothing. Honor – what honor?
    Throw the Heisman in Lake Pontchartrain. Seriously, I don’t care as long as you run for Dem Saints and get paid well for it, Reggie!! You got a Lombardi anyway.

  92. Deb says: Sep 14, 2010 9:33 PM

    @muchmaligned (and no wonder) …
    I have no idea what you’re talking about, and neither do you.
    The Heisman mission statement says the award is given to the college player who performed best “with integrity.” The NCAA prohibits college athletes from accepting ANY gifts–track stars can’t even accept athletic shoes awarded when they win a race. Football players are certainly prohibited from receiving salaries from marketing companies in exchange for promises that they will sign with those companies post graduation. Reggie did not get confused and inadvertently accept a limo ride or a plane ticket. He took what amounted to a three-year salary, knowing full well that it was a violation of NCAA rules.
    I did not make ANY statement about Bush until the investigation was concluded and the findings were announced. The investigators found that he took the money. Therefore, he did not conduct himself “with integrity” DURING the time for which he received the award as required by the Heisman mission statement.
    If he had taken the money for the year PRIOR to the award period or the year AFTER the award period, I would say he should keep the award. If he killed his wife 26 years AFTER receiving the award, I would say he should keep the award. If we were talking about the ROY instead of the Heisman, I would say he should keep the award because the ROY is awarded only for performance on the field.
    I’m not talking out both sides of my face. YOU are just too STUPID to look up the different criteria for the different awards.

  93. Super Bowl / No Oil says: Sep 14, 2010 9:35 PM

    THIS GUY EARNED THE AWARD ON THE FIELD. PERIOD. IF YOU WANT TO TAKE AWAY HEISMAN TROPHIES WHY DON’T WE START WITH CONVICTED FELON AND “ALLEDGED KILLER” OJ SIMPSON. THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO MR. GAMBLING SUSPENDED GREAT PAUL HORNING. STOP WITH THE POLITICS AND LET IT GO. GIFTS OFF THE FIELD DON’T MAKE GREAT FOOTBALL PLAYERS.

  94. Trojan4life5869 says: Sep 14, 2010 9:41 PM

    Good job Reggie. You did an amazing job at USC but now we wonder was it for the love of the game and your team mates, or the cash?
    Fine, give it to VY. He’s used to taking USC’s sloppy seconds…….

  95. Spotts1701 says: Sep 14, 2010 9:44 PM

    “Should we start with OJ? His performance was stellar, but his morality is, well, questionable. See how rediculous that sounds?”
    1) It’s ridiculous. Your argument would be better if you improved your spelling.
    2) Again, Bush’s actions occurred while he was still playing for USC, in direct violation of NCAA rules enforced at the time. Simpson’s questionable morality refers to actions that occurred DECADES after he last played college ball, and I’m pretty sure that the Heisman morals clause doesn’t cover post-award conduct.
    You prove O.J. Simpson broke NCAA rules while he was playing D-I, you might have an argument.
    As it is, you’re comparing apples to egg rolls.

  96. badthing says: Sep 14, 2010 10:06 PM

    Deb says: September 14, 2010 6:14 PM
    I like Reggie, but the Heisman is not awarded for performance alone; the mission statement includes a morals clause. This wasn’t a plane ticket to a party or a one-time gift. Reggie knew what he was doing and needs to accept that he brought this on himself.
    ______________________________________
    Unbelievable! The biggest Ben apologist lectures another team’s player about morals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  97. superb owl says: Sep 14, 2010 10:06 PM

    fine, reggie defenders. lets take away simpson’s trophy too.
    if he didnt already hick it for defense lawyer payment money.
    are u happy yet?
    reg broke the rules when he was competing in that arena. hand it over. to uncle rico.

  98. Wick says: Sep 14, 2010 10:09 PM

    I really can’t say what Reggie did and/or was accused of doing is all that bothersome.
    A poverty-stricken Jim Thorpe later got hosed out of his 1912 gold medal(s) for making some chump change for playing some low level pro ball.
    Lame. Real lame. The Communist Block athletes were effectively and exclusively subsidized “professionals” for a half dozen decades or more —- yet Thorpe was demonized.
    With Bush, the NCAA again gets all high and mighty …… yet few institutions in sports caters to the almighty buck like the NCAA.
    Bush has carried himself with class, plays hard and exciting football, is a respected leader on his team and works on behalf of a number of charities.
    To cast him in a light such that he is the latest Bin Laden is absurd …… especially considering the fact the condemning sources are money whores to the extreme.

  99. TuckRule says: Sep 14, 2010 10:17 PM

    Trophy was already on EBAY a little earlier in the evening.

  100. Wick says: Sep 14, 2010 10:42 PM

    @ Deb who wrote (among other things) “The Heisman mission statement says the award is given to the college player who performed best ‘with integrity.'”
    Deb, unlike a number of others – I like your takes, find them thoughtful, thought-provoking, well-reasoned and insightful.
    Here, our opinions diverge a bit – yet your take still retains all of the characteristics noted in the preceding paragraph.
    To finally get to the point, I think the Heisman Trophy is a bit of a crock.
    Integrity or not, it is clearly not awarded to the best Division I player in the land — as their “Mission Statement” clearly inunciates.
    It is almost exclusively QBs and RBs — the other positions are either disregarded entirely or marginalized such that there are rare exceptions to award-winners coming from an offensive backfield.
    As such, it is hard to take the Downtown Athletic Club’s Mission Statement at its word if its own have failed to do it time and time again since its inception in the mid-30’s.
    Another little known bit of trivia: the Heisman is named after John Heisman, a coach for Georgia Tech. Heisman coached his team to a 222-0 route of the vastly overmatched Cumberland College, so essentially this award touted about sportsmanship and integrity is named after a man who was none of that.
    Lastly, the NCAA is nothing but a gaggle of money whores who epitomize hypocrisy of the highest order. No real props to them either here. I could develop this point but will rest that it’s long established and self-evident.

  101. Deb says: Sep 14, 2010 11:58 PM

    @Wick …
    It’s nice to find an adult among the infantile. Thank you. I feel the same about your posts.
    222-0??? Wow. I had never heard that story.
    Otherwise, I can’t argue. RBs and QBs almost exclusively. And yes, the NCAA’s hypocrisy is long-established and self-evident.
    Ironically, I strongly support compensating NCAA players above the table. They shouldn’t be paid by slimy agents but by the association itself and the schools for which they make so much money.
    The people on here harping that I’m judging Bush’s morals are idiots looking for something to harp about. I’m not judging anything. He was investigated and found guilty of violations that would have disqualified him from Heisman consideration had they been discovered at the time. It’s unfair for CURRENT USC players to be punished for things they did not do while the former players are allowed to keep ALL the spoils of their violations. Reggie, as he has admitted, made bad decisions. This is a consequence of those decisions just as Ben’s suspension is a consequence of his decision to get blind drunk with a trashy DTF woman.

  102. vasaints says: Sep 15, 2010 4:41 AM

    The Heisman was given to the best college player. It said nothing about dealing with an agent, money, and etc…. the NCAA can take their Heishman and shove it up a place where the sun doesn’t shine. NCAA made beaucoup $$$ off of Reggie and players like him…What hypocrisy regarding money..

  103. Foxy_Grandpa says: Sep 15, 2010 8:24 AM

    Ok, so Reggie was in violation of the NCAA rules and giving the trophy back was probably the right thing to do. What’s really sad here is this whole thing seemed to be a witch hunt. You really think Reggie Bush was the first college athlete to accept money or other gifts from an agent? PLEASE! The difference b/t Reggie and other players is someone was out to get Reggie and he got caught. If they plan on giving Vince Young the trophy, a full investigation should be done on him too. You are fooling yourself if you think a majority of these high school All Americans are choosing their college based on academics or location. Is it coincidence that college students can see these same players driving around in expensive cars, wearing fancy jewelry, and wearing nice clothes? There’s a lot more going on under the table and behind closed doors with alums, boosters, and coaches when it comes to recruiting players than anyone wants to admit.

  104. jk7761 says: Sep 15, 2010 8:36 AM

    hope reggie’s family enjoyed the digs.
    how perfect is it that they now reside in new orleans. reggie’s family=freeloaders

  105. Spotts1701 says: Sep 15, 2010 9:04 AM

    “There’s a lot more going on under the table and behind closed doors with alums, boosters, and coaches when it comes to recruiting players than anyone wants to admit.”
    I’m not going to disagree with you that the system is flawed and in need of systemic change, but the point is that we can’t throw the rulebook away when its convenient, or when the player involved is a “good guy”.
    The rules apply to the scrubs and the stars. I just read about how Princeton got sanctioned by the NCAA because a women’s tennis player had part of her education expenses paid by a family friend. Is it fair? No. But the rule is there for a purpose – to prevent schools from gaining a competitive advantage by having boosters pay athletes to come to a school, creating an “arms race” amongst the football and basketball “factory” schools.
    And suppose you change the system – what about non-revenue sports? Football players get paid, but volleyball players don’t? How is that equitable?

  106. Wick says: Sep 15, 2010 10:08 AM

    @ Deb:
    Have to head out for work (west coast here), so this will be brief.
    We also agree: the players should be compensated in straightforward fashion — greedy players who attempted to get “extra” via agents would engender no sympathy.
    Also, punishing the players and often the coaches of a team …. because a player took money under the table a half decade ago is ridiculous. Bush is gone. Pete Carroll is gone. The culpable scape – and the innocent pay for their sins. Not a very equitable punishment on many levels.
    For me, that’s brevity. Be cool Deb – have a good day.

  107. muchmaligned says: Sep 15, 2010 10:48 AM

    @deb,
    Yes, with good reason, as I am a lifelong Lions fan.
    This is a cheap shot, but hypocrisy of this depth begs it: I suppose if Bush had raped or otherwise molested the Heisman Trust, your support of him would be as fervent as it has been for the face of your chosen franchise.
    It is your argument’s dependence upon such moral luminaries as Nick Saban that exposes your hypocrisy. The fact is that Bush was the greatest player in college football in 2005, including Young’s performance in the NC game. I know it, he knows it, Nick Saban knows it, The Heisman voters know it and you know it.

  108. Spotts1701 says: Sep 15, 2010 11:17 AM

    “The fact is that Bush was the greatest player in college football in 2005, including Young’s performance in the NC game. I know it, he knows it, Nick Saban knows it, The Heisman voters know it and you know it.”
    While the hypocrisy you’re displaying is “the rules shouldn’t apply when it’s inconvenient or when the player is awesome”.
    See my previous post – the rules are designed to prevent one school from gaining a competitive advantage off-the-field against another. Even when the school DOESN’T actually gain that advantage, the perception that they do matters.
    Whether it’s Reggie Bush or Joe Benchwarmer, if a player verbally or in writing agrees to be represented by an agent in any future professional career they are in violation of NCAA rules. And this is not an “inadvertent” violation like a player accepting a free pair of shoes. This was a systemic violation of the rule for years.

  109. Deb says: Sep 15, 2010 12:19 PM

    @muchmaligned …
    If Reggie had been accused of rape, I’d scream he should NOT return the award. Off-field criminal misconduct is irrelevant to the Heisman. But the NCAA has strict rules regarding payment for players. ALL college athletes sign an agreement to abide by those rules. Reggie signed the agreement, then ignored it. He admitted breaking the rules.
    Say there’s a marathon and all runners agreed NOT to take water from people along the route, but Reggie did it anyway and won. Others took water, too, and didn’t get caught. But most played by the rules. Is it fair to let Reggie keep the trophy? We don’t let captured bank robbers keep the loot just because some got away. I never said Saban was a moral luminary. A few months ago, he started lobbying to punish the guys handing out the water. Do you disagree?
    I never commented on Reggie until AFTER the investigation ended because I would not rush to judgment. I waited for the verdict. Ben has been condemned by many PFT commenters even though police in both Nevada and Georgia say they have no evidence a crime ever occurred.
    My professional expertise enabled me to thoroughly research evidence in both cases. The Nevada woman sent text messages saying she wanted to see him again, which clears him in the civil case. DNA findings in Georgia show there was no intercourse. There is additional evidence of innocence, but that alone clears him and is why the DA said the case was permanently closed.
    Ben may be a jackass, but he’s innocent. That’s why I’m so vehement defending him–that and because it gnaws at me to see those women portrayed as victims when so many REAL victims are suffering. But I’ve also defended players I don’t like. Yesterday, I posted that CBS had no reason to suspend Shannon Sharpe. I can’t stand him, Denver, or Baltimore, and think he’s a hideous broadcaster. But those are unsubstantiated accusations regarding a personal domestic issue and should not affect his job. (He has now stepped aside, which I think was a mistake.) Yesterday I posted that people should stop calling Ray Lewis a murderer because he isn’t. People are innocent until they are proved guilty and should not be condemned by a kangaroo court of public opinion no matter what I think of them personally or where they play(ed).
    My positions aren’t hypocritical or inconsistent. People just make the accusation because they don’t like my opinions.
    Sorry about your Lions Sunday. Terrible rule.

  110. texasPHINSfan says: Sep 15, 2010 12:59 PM

    Too bad Reggie’s agent or lawyer wrote that.
    I wish football players would have to write their own stuff. It would probably sound a lot more like Chris Johnson’s tweets.
    I doubt Reggie Bush spent enough time in English class to use that verbiage and write like that. Thus, it really isn’t heartfelt or from him, is it? It’s one of his legal representatives publishing what they’d like the public to think he said.

  111. badthing says: Sep 16, 2010 10:30 AM

    So the definition of a “jackass” is a man that has been accused of rape numerous times????????

  112. DonnyBoy says: Sep 16, 2010 6:07 PM

    Gosh bad, can’t you just let it be?
    So what if Rapagirlertwo has been accused of rape two or three times.
    Boys will be boys.
    He wasn’t convicted so, like OJ, all’s well that ends well.
    Except of course for the women.
    But Reggie should be required to give up the Heisman because he took money and that was morally wrong.
    Just ask Pissburgh fans.

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