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Microphones on centers create strategic concerns

In the wake of the 2007 Spygate fiasco, one of the unsubstantiated rumors making the rounds was that the Patriots had surreptitiously placed microphones in the pads of defensive linemen in the hopes of capturing the opposing quarterback’s cadence and calls at the line of scrimmage.  The information, as the rumor went, was then matched up to the film for each play, helping the Pats crack the code for any future games against the team in question.

Three years later, the NFL has made this otherwise forbidden process much easier.

As Michael Hiestand of USA Today explained on Monday, the league has decided to allow microphones to be attached to the offensive center, which allows the quarterback’s pre-snap information to be broadcast to the television audience.  Per Hiestand, it happened in the Sunday afternoon games between the Packers and the Eagles, the Panthers and the Giants, and the Bengals and the Patriots.  We also detected it in the Thursday night opener between the Vikings and the Saints, and in the Monday night game between the Ravens and the Jets.

It’s not going over well in some league circles.  As one high-level source with one of the teams whose quarterback could not be heard calling out signals in Week One, the teams whose centers wore microphones during the opening weekend will now be required to change the verbiage or risk having the Week Two opponent know what is coming when a given call is made at the line.

It adds another chore to the many things that need to be done in the period between one game and the next, and any prudent team that has had its audibles and run checks and cadence broadcast to the nation will surely will come up with a new code before its next game.  It’s a prime example of the ever-present tension between the league office, which hopes to make the game broadcasts more interesting, and the teams, which hope to protect their strategic information and interests.

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66 Responses to “Microphones on centers create strategic concerns”
  1. MACHINE GUN IBIZA says: Sep 15, 2010 9:22 AM

    Nothing that a creative center and some athletic tape could not fix. Or a pair of scissors…
    “Oh-it wasn’t working? Thats a shame!” -Creative Center

  2. Tom "Horse Toofs" Jackson SUX!!!!! says: Sep 15, 2010 9:24 AM

    I never heard the rumors of the Pats using microphones, but I have heard the rumor that Nick Saban’s Dolphins wore microphones in the first meeting of the season with the Pats in 06 (if I remember correct). That was the year that the Dolphins pummeled New England 21-0 in the second meeting…..
    No one cared about that when it happened, and now we are going to place the blame for that beat down onto the team that got debacled????
    Sure the Pats were found guilty of filming, but they arent the only ones, plus, I still dont understand how it is a big deal. You are allowed to film from the front row of the stands, but you cant film from the sideline???? Really? Getting 5 feet closer is the difference maker?

  3. jcjets says: Sep 15, 2010 9:26 AM

    It adds nothing to the tv broadcast, and at times I found it distracting.
    Why does the NFL keep trying to tinker with an already great product? Do they think hearing the pre snap audibles really bring in new viewers?

  4. WhySoSerious says: Sep 15, 2010 9:26 AM

    The cadences were pretty loud and clear in the Giants game. Probably because no one was cheering.

  5. Somnambulus says: Sep 15, 2010 9:26 AM

    I noticed the more audible cadence during the Jets debacle, too. Of course, the only reason it came to my attention is because of the degree to which Sanchez seemed to be adding a little extra gravel to his voice.
    Hey little guy, if your play is not going to intimidate anyone, trying to gruff-up certainly won’t. “KILL KILL KILL!!!!!”

  6. drumbug71 says: Sep 15, 2010 9:27 AM

    Why? How does this help the viewer experience? It seems like it only hurts the game.
    I think the league is going to “market” the NFL into extinction…

  7. dcsween says: Sep 15, 2010 9:28 AM

    Its crazy that, in a thunderous loud stadium, the home audience can hear the cadence from the QB but the backs and receivers cannot.

  8. HarrisonHits says: Sep 15, 2010 9:29 AM

    Another piece of crap rule from the league. Keep it up NFL, between you and the ever growing list of reeking greedy turd players you are destroying the game.

  9. Spungy says: Sep 15, 2010 9:31 AM

    Belicheat doesn’t need that. He has microphones implanted under the turf.

  10. PFTiswhatitis says: Sep 15, 2010 9:32 AM

    Is the league mandating it or just allowing it? Am I missing something? If its on the center and it is not mandated then just dont do it. Whats the big deal? If its on the nose tackle thats different.

  11. Belichick for President says: Sep 15, 2010 9:34 AM

    Um, FLorio, you’re leaving out the part where the Dolphins also did it to the Pats in 2006, which was why that crappy Dolphin team shut them out in there second game that year.
    And I agree with Machine Gun…just “disrupt” the connection somehow.

  12. JustTheFacts says: Sep 15, 2010 9:34 AM

    As a fan that will watch a guard for a few plays just to see what he does (pull, run block, cut his man, etc.) I’d love it. It would let me hear more of the game but what would I get out of “Heavy 2″ or some odd thing that only the center and his teammates would understand?
    A normal fan that watches just for how far the ball goes or if their team scores it will add nothing. Just more noise.
    And like the article says, it will be taken advantage of by other teams to aid in reacting to the offense.
    I’m against this.

  13. Krow says: Sep 15, 2010 9:34 AM

    The Patriot “dynasty” again turns out to be worthless. They should really give back those Lombardi trophies. What a total farce. This may not be the lowest thing ever done in sports… but it’s certainly a contender. Shame shame…

  14. BarrySanders says: Sep 15, 2010 9:36 AM

    It’s the end of football as we knew it

  15. PFTiswhatitis says: Sep 15, 2010 9:45 AM

    I dont recall the Patriots being accused of this ever. The Dolphins were accused of it however. How about a link to substantiate the claim against the Pats?

  16. jnolte01 says: Sep 15, 2010 9:49 AM

    Krow, you are obviously an idiot. You can trash the Patriots style and their coach, and how they do business, but if you actually think that the patriots are the only team that has stretched the rules to benefit themselves (ala Broncos in the late 90’s, Dolphins in 06, and all the HOF coaches who said taping signals was common practice after spygate happened to name just a few examples) then you probably have as high of a football IQ as a chick who owns a pink eli manning jersey.

  17. minnesconsin_ad says: Sep 15, 2010 9:52 AM

    the *only* positive I took away from this aspect of last week’s game was that it shut the tv morons up for an additional 6-10 seconds before every play. But I found listening to the QB’s audibles and cadence almost as obnoxious as the talking heads after about a quarter, so the lustre wore off fairly quickly.

  18. Sloan says: Sep 15, 2010 9:57 AM

    Krow says:
    September 15, 2010 9:34 AM
    The Patriot “dynasty” again turns out to be worthless. They should really give back those Lombardi trophies. What a total farce. This may not be the lowest thing ever done in sports… but it’s certainly a contender. Shame shame…
    —————
    Only in the monds of haters, like you!

  19. Dilbio50 says: Sep 15, 2010 9:58 AM

    Watch the NFL Film about the Eagles-Pats Superbowl of ’04…Brady claims that fatass Charlie Weiss grabbed him just before the half and told him he was scrapping the whole offensive gameplan at the half…he had another “idea.” Brady goes on to say he thought Weiss was “nuts.”
    His idea, of course, helped de-rail the Iggles who were caught defensively caught off-guard in the beginning of the third quarter, after containing the Pats’ O successfully all half.
    Charlie Weiss is no genius who simply creates new gameplans on the spur of the moment at the end of the 2nd quarter (see: the years he spent at ND as an example)
    Weiss wasnt nuts or genius….he (and his cohorts) cheated.

  20. PirateFreedom says: Sep 15, 2010 9:58 AM

    # Krow says: September 15, 2010 9:34 AM
    The Patriot “dynasty” again turns out to be worthless. They should really give back those Lombardi trophies. What a total farce. This may not be the lowest thing ever done in sports… but it’s certainly a contender. Shame shame…
    What is best in life? …
    Thanks for providing the lamentations of the women!

  21. Sloan says: Sep 15, 2010 9:59 AM

    Krow says:
    September 15, 2010 9:34 AM
    The Patriot “dynasty” again turns out to be worthless. They should really give back those Lombardi trophies. What a total farce. This may not be the lowest thing ever done in sports… but it’s certainly a contender. Shame shame…
    ————–
    Only in the minds of haters lie you.

  22. MistrezzRachael says: Sep 15, 2010 10:00 AM

    Krow..get over it…maybe the dumbest comment out here today

  23. Tom "Horse Toofs" Jackson SUX!!!!! says: Sep 15, 2010 10:01 AM

    I do remember wondering…..”why is Sanchez trying to sound like Batman during his cadence..?”

  24. PFTiswhatitis says: Sep 15, 2010 10:05 AM

    @Dilbio50: Poor Iggles fan still cant get over the loss and the fact that the Iggles were overpowered and outphysicalled in every aspect that day. Get a clue.

  25. 100 no's and 1 yes still mean yes says: Sep 15, 2010 10:05 AM

    Make the tv broadcast more interesting?!?! It’s the most watched sport in America no need to make it more interesting nobody is sitting inside on a sunday saying you know what I hate football but I’m gonna tune in to hear the pre snap calls and audibles

  26. JimmySmith says: Sep 15, 2010 10:07 AM

    I wouldn’t put it past Bellicheat, no doubt any evidence gathered as destroyed along with the tapes. The only question is to protect what? Certaintly not Bellicheat’s reputation.
    As for the tainted Lombardi trophies, its much like Reggie Bush’s Heisman, doen’t matter if you take it away, nobody else wants it at this point.
    Thanks to the Pat’s and their wonderful organization for creating a dung heap that nobody wants to stand next to. Except for the Pat’s fans, they not only can withstand the smell, they are used to it by now and thinks the rest of the world stinks.

  27. Nosredna says: Sep 15, 2010 10:07 AM

    I don’t ever remember hearing about the Patriots doing that, only the cameras.
    My opinion for what it is worth, I think this stupidity at its finest!

  28. TheDPR says: Sep 15, 2010 10:10 AM

    It’s dumb and it added nothing of value to the broadcast.
    No mics on players at all, please.

  29. Sloan says: Sep 15, 2010 10:13 AM

    Dilbio50 says:
    September 15, 2010 9:58 AM
    Watch the NFL Film about the Eagles-Pats Superbowl of ’04…Brady claims that fatass Charlie Weiss grabbed him just before the half and told him he was scrapping the whole offensive gameplan at the half…he had another “idea.” Brady goes on to say he thought Weiss was “nuts.”
    His idea, of course, helped de-rail the Iggles who were caught defensively caught off-guard in the beginning of the third quarter, after containing the Pats’ O successfully all half.
    Charlie Weiss is no genius who simply creates new gameplans on the spur of the moment at the end of the 2nd quarter (see: the years he spent at ND as an example)
    Weiss wasnt nuts or genius….he (and his cohorts) cheated.
    —————————
    So every team that comes back in the second half cheated, try half time adjustments.
    The score was 0-0 at the end of 1 qt and 7-7 at the half.
    Let it guy, let it go.. Your team lost!!

  30. evilmajortom says: Sep 15, 2010 10:16 AM

    # Tom “Horse Toofs” Jackson SUX!!!!! says: September 15, 2010 9:24 AM
    “You are allowed to film from the front row of the stands”
    Umm No, this isn’t a Dave Matthews concert, I’m pretty sure the NFL frowns upon bootlegging.

  31. Florios'Lawyer says: Sep 15, 2010 10:19 AM

    jnolte01 says: September 15, 2010 9:49 AM
    “…You can trash the Patriots style and their coach, and how they do business, but if you actually think that the patriots are the only team that has stretched the rules to benefit themselves…”
    Spoken like a typical Patsies fan, who never misses an opportunity to garbage talk about the Steelers of the 70’s and steroids, when you know, everybody was doing it.

  32. agenice says: Sep 15, 2010 10:20 AM

    You are allowed to film from the front row of the stands, but you cant film from the sideline???? Really? Getting 5 feet closer is the difference maker?

  33. pats331 says: Sep 15, 2010 10:21 AM

    Mikes were optional, not mandatory. Why teams agreed to have them miked is beyond me.
    Read the link (you too Florio)
    “CBS had mikes at the Cincinnati Bengals-New England Patriots game — only the Bengals center agreed to wear them”

  34. UrMomToldMe2TellUHi says: Sep 15, 2010 10:22 AM

    I personally enjoyed it, all the while thinking that I couldn’t believe a team would allow it…made for an experience more like being on the field, without having to get jacked up. Isn’t that the point with the HD (and 3D to come), to have an experience more like being there?

  35. medic406 says: Sep 15, 2010 10:22 AM

    Maybe Paul Tagliabue wasn’t such a shlub afterall. He basically just let ‘em play football. Maybe Goodell could learn a lesson there. It ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

  36. Tom "Horse Toofs" Jackson SUX!!!!! says: Sep 15, 2010 10:23 AM

    Dilbio50 , you dont think McNabb’s 3 INT’s played into that? The second half of the game was 17-14, it isnt like the Pats put up 35 points….
    Steelers fans used the same reasoning behind them losing the AFCC to the Pats, at home, twice. But if you do a little research, you will see that Pittsburgh outscored NE in the second half of both games. Doesnt sound like taping signals was all that effective for half time adjustments….and recording audio from the other teams offense was so effective, that they gave up more points than they scored in 2nd half….lol
    Lets recap, in the AFCC games against Pitt and Indy, the Pats were outscored in the second half. In the SB’s against Car and Phi, the Pats were outscored in the second half. And you expect me to believe that they won those games based on half time adjustments?????? Really???? There adjustments were soooo good that they got beat in the second half scoring and that was the difference maker?

  37. Grape_Ape says: Sep 15, 2010 10:23 AM

    Dilbio50 says:
    September 15, 2010 9:58 AM
    Watch the NFL Film about the Eagles-Pats Superbowl of ’04…Brady claims that fatass Charlie Weiss grabbed him just before the half and told him he was scrapping the whole offensive gameplan at the half…he had another “idea.” Brady goes on to say he thought Weiss was “nuts.”
    His idea, of course, helped de-rail the Iggles who were caught defensively caught off-guard in the beginning of the third quarter, after containing the Pats’ O successfully all half.
    Charlie Weiss is no genius who simply creates new gameplans on the spur of the moment at the end of the 2nd quarter (see: the years he spent at ND as an example)
    Weiss wasnt nuts or genius….he (and his cohorts) cheated.
    ——————
    They came out in the second half throwing screen passes to the side the blitz was coming from.
    It doesn’t take a genius to come up with that, its basic football, MORON.
    Your team lost, get over it!!

  38. PFTiswhatitis says: Sep 15, 2010 10:23 AM

    @JimmySmith : you know all about stinks buddy.
    Hey what about the allegations against the Dolphins and Saban using stolen signals in 06? Remember Jason Taylor looking like a superman when he managed to beat every snap in that game against the Pats? What about that? Oh yeah let;s conveniently ignore that and make it a Pats issue. Loser.

  39. Florios'Lawyer says: Sep 15, 2010 10:24 AM

    Bellicheat:
    “Hey Koppen, c’mere… Here, tape this iPod to your chest…

  40. Sting Ray says: Sep 15, 2010 10:26 AM

    It’s going to hurt the quality of the game.
    What a DUMBASS IDEA!!!

  41. Belichick for President says: Sep 15, 2010 10:28 AM

    JimmySmith, spewing enough stupid to be an honorary Jets fan.
    Unlike Rex Ryan though, JimmySmith stays off the message board for 3 months if you challenge him to a fight. At least Rex would have the balls to reply.

  42. We need linemen says: Sep 15, 2010 10:33 AM

    Just change the signals so that they always include unbroadcastable language. They’ll soon have those microphones off.
    Replace “hut” with something else ending in t and recording the cadence would suddenly seem a whole lot less attractive.

  43. jaxdolfan says: Sep 15, 2010 10:47 AM

    I heard that Kraft’s satellite can pick up the snap counts in domed stadiums.
    Rex Ryan, on the other hand, prefers to use a Mr. Microphone that his dad bought him in 1978.

  44. yem123 says: Sep 15, 2010 10:49 AM

    The NFL seriously needs to hire some hardcore fan, preferably fat with some facial hair stubble and a beer-stained shirt, to have veto power over all of these stupid decisions. The suits who decide “what is marketable” are about as far away from their target audience as one can get.

  45. JimmySmith says: Sep 15, 2010 10:50 AM

    @ Belichick for President
    Reply to what? That your head coach is a cheater? No arguement there.
    To a fight? Do you want me to drive 15 hours to meet you a bar parking lot? Come on, defend your team with facts. You know, facts like the Pats are the only team that had to give up a draft choice because of cheating. Facts like the Pats have never won a Superbowl since they got caught (and this year is no different), facts like Matt Walsh is a hero. Ok, maybe that last one is a stretch but its hard to find a Giant fan that doesn’t agree.

  46. Tom "Horse Toofs" Jackson SUX!!!!! says: Sep 15, 2010 10:51 AM

    # evilmajortom says: September 15, 2010 10:16 AM
    # Tom “Horse Toofs” Jackson SUX!!!!! says: September 15, 2010 9:24 AM
    “You are allowed to film from the front row of the stands”
    Umm No, this isn’t a Dave Matthews concert, I’m pretty sure the NFL frowns upon bootlegging.
    ____________________________________
    Settle down, this isnt Little League where the “spirit of the game is paramount, and fair play is encouraged”. Dont go making assumptions. Are you telling me that 31 teams hire choir boys to do their video work? And then that 1 evil team in NE hires delinquents? I will clue you in on something, just because the league “frowns upon bootlegging Dave Mathews footage” doesnt mean that no one is doing exactly what I said. If you honestly believe that teams dont have an employee, sitting in the stands, filming signals you are crazy. Did I say it was ok, no. I am simply being realistic. Only douche bags think that the Pats are the only team to EVER do anything to give themselves an advantage.
    Look at this situation, the Dolphins have used mics, and the Pats are getting called out on it…..

  47. exit322 says: Sep 15, 2010 11:01 AM

    It would seem to me that an easy way to start getting rid of this policy would be for teams to start using all kinds of expletives in their pre-snap verbiage.

  48. sparky says: Sep 15, 2010 11:03 AM

    I fail to see why it’s an advantage….what about the 3 teams that every team plays twice a year…what are you insinuating ? that they don’t change signals for the repeat games or do? Is there competitive advantage in those repeat games or not?
    So wouldn’t allowing signals to be broadcast be making the other games just as equal?
    It was interesting but not anything I care about one way or another. take it or leave it

  49. Krow says: Sep 15, 2010 11:14 AM

    I love how I can get the Pats fanboys to jump and foam any time I like. You are my meat puppets. Dance fools… dance.

  50. Kevin from Philly says: Sep 15, 2010 11:15 AM

    Where exactly do they put the mike on the center to get the QB’s voice? His butt? Did it pick up any bodily function noises? And just who has to put the mike in place? THAT can’t be a fun job.

  51. TheWien says: Sep 15, 2010 11:25 AM

    The NFL is trying real hard to destroy the integrity of the game, eh?

  52. GB3Pack4 says: Sep 15, 2010 11:42 AM

    If this kind of stuff is allowed and/or encouraged, the game will, in the blink of an eye, become larded with on-field technology – or at least a competition-killing, fun-stuffing compulsion to REVEAL EVERYTHING.
    No more secrets. No mystery. No motivation. No fun. Think about it – football games with NO UNCERTAINTY. Every punch will have a counterpunch all laid out ahead of time. The plays, the routes, the matchups. Soon there won’t be any need to actually play at all.
    The teams will study their opponents and lay out the punches and counterpunches. As the stands fill with poor suckers who paid (they’ll still allow folks to PAY) for the privilege of being there, the opposing coaches, envision Andy Reid, say, and Mike Singletary, will take the printouts in hand and march to the line of scrimmage. A hush will come over the crowd. The two will stand at the 50-yard line, a gaggle of officials surrounding them. They’ll enchange printouts, sharing information like prosecution and defense prior to trial. Officials will close in, examine, compare, murmur. As the clock ticks up to gametime, the refs will speak into a mike, in unison, all together now, fellas (wouldn’t want the slightest intimation of competition out here on a football field), and announce the winner of the game.
    Then everybody can just go home without the inconvenience of having to watch the game to find out the winner. They can just pick up blankets, banners and beer, maybe the kids, and go home.
    Unless of course, somebody slips up, or deliberately withholds a morsel of data, and the winner is not clear. In that case, the game would still have to be played. Darn.
    Fans – and their passion – won’t be needed for long. I wonder what’ll happen to all those expensive stadiums then.
    I don’t know how I missed this particular rumor at the time of the Pats mess, but I find it appalling. All right, so this (comment) is carried to an extreme degree to make a point. But truly, as a fierce sports fan, favorite sport being football, I loathe the increasing homogenization of opponents.

  53. Belichick for President says: Sep 15, 2010 11:51 AM

    @ JimmySmith
    We’ll break this down: “You know, facts like the Pats are the only team that had to give up a draft choice because of cheating.” Um, no. The Broncos and 49ers lost draft picks for cheating. They were playing salary cap games and got caught. Google it if you don’t believe me.
    “Facts like the Pats have never won a Superbowl since they got caught” I never understood this argument. They were caught in 2007. It’s 2010. If it’s 2030 and Belichick is still coaching and he hasn’t won a Super Bowl, then this argument makes sense. Plus, he HAS been to a Super Bowl, his team was 2 minutes from 19-0, and he’s had a winning record since they were caught.
    What YOU should answer is, if it was such a HUGE deal, why didn’t they win the Super Bowl in 2002, 2005, or 2006?

  54. jnolte01 says: Sep 15, 2010 11:53 AM

    Florios’Lawyer says:
    September 15, 2010 10:19 AM
    jnolte01 says: September 15, 2010 9:49 AM
    “…You can trash the Patriots style and their coach, and how they do business, but if you actually think that the patriots are the only team that has stretched the rules to benefit themselves…”
    Spoken like a typical Patsies fan, who never misses an opportunity to garbage talk about the Steelers of the 70’s and steroids, when you know, everybody was doing it.
    Noone said taping signals is right, or fair, or any of that. But if you sanctimonious blowhards want to believe that the Pats are the only team that has ever cheated to gain a competitive advantage, then I’ve got some snake oil to sell you. The stealers did steroids in the 70’s, big whoop! So did everyone else. Doesn’t make it right but it makes it fact. Moreover, the Pats took the biggest sanction in league history for what they did, its not like they got off scott free.
    Parity is such an issue in the league that teams resort to ANY way they can think of to gain a competitive advantage, whether legal or whether it stretches the rules. Every detail of the game is analyzed and everything is manipulated to gain that extra yard on Sundays. ITs a cutthroat business, and like any business, not all of it is honest.
    And Krow, you ARE the big dog of the PFT message boards! HOORAY, you have ALL the power. Still doesn’t take away from the fact that you are a moron.

  55. Bradenton Buc says: Sep 15, 2010 12:04 PM

    Interesting, They want to enhance the TV experience, but would rather you go to the game.

  56. Kevin DuBrow says: Sep 15, 2010 12:12 PM

    get your story straight Florio, the Pats were never accused of this, the Dolphins admitted it though. they shut out the Pats and i remember Zakk Thomas saying they knew everything that was coming.
    cheaters. this is why the nfl is a joke.

  57. TheSleepness says: Sep 15, 2010 12:42 PM

    i agree with this article..this is football aka legal assault/War….why the hell are the Centers mic’d???? get this **** out of my face!

  58. cutler_eats_it says: Sep 15, 2010 12:43 PM

    @ dildo50
    That’s funny…i think i’ll say it again…dildo50
    Anyways, your whining is representation of your poor conspiracy theory. The patriots beat your beloved eagles because they were better. Not because (i forgot what i was gonna say)
    aah shucks…i only started this comment because i wanted to make fun of your screen name.
    dild050…
    does your real name have dildo in it?

  59. MUSTANGMIKE says: Sep 15, 2010 12:48 PM

    OMG! Stop making up stories about the Pats and pull your brain our of your “Whizzinator.” Jerk.

  60. The Real Shuxion says: Sep 15, 2010 12:51 PM

    @ Florios’Lawyer
    Koppen: “Not till you take the damn Bon Jovi off it. This music sucks.”

  61. The Real Shuxion says: Sep 15, 2010 12:53 PM

    # evilmajortom says: September 15, 2010 10:16 AM
    # Tom “Horse Toofs” Jackson SUX!!!!! says: September 15, 2010 9:24 AM
    “You are allowed to film from the front row of the stands”
    Umm No, this isn’t a Dave Matthews concert, I’m pretty sure the NFL frowns upon bootlegging.
    ——————————————————
    Dave Matthews frown upon making entertaining music.

  62. Krow says: Sep 15, 2010 1:59 PM

    Dance my Patriot fanboy fools. Spin faster. Amuse me. Especially you jnolte01. You’re my favorite.

  63. dEV says: Sep 15, 2010 4:41 PM

    They should put the mike in the center’s ass for better reception.
    Really, if they want to make football more interesting, the most obvious thing to do is get rid of Joe Buck.

  64. sand0 says: Sep 15, 2010 5:02 PM

    Teams shouldn’t complain about this. Just mix up a few signals so if the opponents parks on a certain play they’ll be surprised to find out the call now means the opposite.

  65. BCGreg says: Sep 16, 2010 9:25 PM

    @ agenice
    “And this is the reason people hate Pats fans. Any team official is not allowed to record other teams signals from anywhere in the stadium. They have several designated areas for recording coaches film, BUT you still can’t record signals from those areas.
    It would be nice if you Pats fans would realize this.”
    WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!
    There is NO rule that says what a team can or cannot film. A team can film whatever it wants–fans, cheerleaders, the QB only or even the opposing coaches signals. The league does have camera placement rules.
    Let’s examine this. Part of the rule states that you cannot have a camera on the field. However, the league defines the “field” as sideline to sideline, endline to endline (ie the playing field).
    Did the Pats have a camera on the field as defined by the league? NO, they did not. The Pats did not violate the written rule. I think they violated the spirit of the rule, but not the written one.
    The memo that the league sent out in 2006 by Ray Anderson was a fraud? Why? Because Mr Anderson changed one word in the rule thereby changing the rule, which he is NOT authorized to do. He changed the word ‘field’ to the word ‘sideline’. The Commish and his lawyers can send out memos reminding teams of the rules as long as they don’t change the wording of the rule. Only the owners can propose and change the rules. The Commish’s office cannot. Belichick was right in IGNORING this memo because it was a memo for a rule that did NOT exist!

  66. BCGreg says: Sep 16, 2010 9:30 PM

    @ JimmySmith
    The Pats are NOT the only team to lose a draft pick for “cheating”. The Broncos lost multiple draft picks for cheating TWICE! SF lost multiple draft picks for cheating too. Just to name a couple.
    The total fine levied on the Pats wasn’t even the highest in NFL history either! The Broncos were fined over $900K for EACH TIME they cheated. The league fined SF and the agents involved in their scandal over a million total.
    This is why people on this site can’t stand you. You don’t have your facts straight. If you did that, then fine. But you simply have no idea what you are talking about.

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