Reggie Bush claims giving up Heisman isn't an admission of guilt

NFL_Bush1_250.jpgSaints running back Reggie Bush continues to treat the truth like a defensive back from Fresno State, twisting and turning and juking around it.

On Thursday, Bush claimed that his decision to give back the 2005 Heisman Trophy is “not an admission of guilt,” according to the Associated Press.  So just what is it then?

“I felt just to kind of silence all the talk around it, all the
negativity around it — I felt like this would be the best decision to
do right now so I could focus,” Bush said.

But then Bush reiterated something he said in his lengthy statement relinquishing the award; he admitted that he made mistakes.

“I’m not happy this happened. This is where it has come to,” Bush said.  “This is just a part of life. This is a part of growing pains and
becoming more mature.  You learn.  You grow.  You get better.  You get
stronger and hopefully you never make those same mistakes again.”

Though he didn’t specify the mistakes he made, Bush seemed to hint that the mistakes related to the thing that resulted in the forfeiture of his college eligibility — getting paid while supposedly still an “amateur.”

“Whatever the NCAA has, whatever programs they have, aren’t working,
and it needs to be changed. If it’s not changed, it’s going to continue,
and it hasn’t stopped yet,” Bush said.  “It’s going to continue year
after year after year, and you’re going to see kids be ineligible.
You’re going to see great athletes missing their junior and senior year
and seasons because the system doesn’t work.

“Obviously something
has to be changed.  You’ve got universities making millions of dollars
off these kids and they don’t get paid.  The majority of college athletes
who come in on scholarship come in [with] nothing.  That’s where you
have a problem.  You’re making all this money off these kids and you’re
giving them crumbs and then you’re surrounding these kids with money and
telling them not to touch it.”

We agree with Reggie on this point, and we’ve previously made our case for meaningful change to a system that gives the players an unfairly low level of compensation for their efforts, sacrifices, and risks.  But before anyone excuses Bush’s behavior (as determined by the NCAA) by playing the “lots of players did it” card, we need to emphasize that Reggie’s case was very different.

Based on the allegations of the lawsuit that ultimately was settled by Bush, the NCAA’s findings, and the reporting done largely by Charles Robinson and Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Bush took money and other things of value from multiple would-be marketing agents.  When he decided not to hire the group founded by Michael Michaels and Lloyd Lake, Bush stiffed them.

Then, when they tried to get their money back without suing, Bush stonewalled.

Then, when they sued Bush to get their money back, Bush dragged his feet, allowing the case to catch the attention of the NCAA, and laying the foundation for the sanctions imposed against USC and the eventual quit-or-be-fired decision from Bush to give back the Heisman.

Though he says that he has matured, Reggie won’t truly mature until he admits to himself and to others that he knowingly violated the rules — and that he thereafter failed and refused on multiple occasions to make things right at a time when he still could have avoided doing major damage to his school and to his legacy.

61 responses to “Reggie Bush claims giving up Heisman isn't an admission of guilt

  1. ‘I DID NOT TAKE ANY MONEY WHILE AT USC, AND I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN….MISS KARDASHIAN!’

  2. “Reggie Bush claims giving up Heisman isn’t an admision of guilt”
    This is how the real world spells “a-d-m-i-s-s-i-o-n”.
    Nobody proofread the GD title??!!

  3. Maybe one day CornFlorio will mature and realize he needs to report NFL news without injecting his own worthless opinions in the middle of it!

  4. Wow, Florio really is a stiff for the agents. He might at least acknowledge the fact that the agents don’t exactly have “clean hands” in the matter, considering that they were KNOWINGLY paying Bush under the table.

  5. Rules are rules…blah, blah, blah…..
    NCAA needs to modify these BS rules. The sanctions these kids have to go through while they bring in piles of money to the networks and their universities plus sponsors is ridiculous. I know they get a scholorship,but guess what you cannot spend scholarship. It costs money to fly your parents to a bowl game. A bowl game that because of your talents is nationally broadcast and you cant work a summer job to bring in money?? That’s hypocritical. The NCAA and all the pious critics need to get their heads out of the sand. Give them a stipend or something. Because guess what, the more money that’s being generated the more unfair it becomes. Don’t tell me that they’re adults they’re 18,they know better. We’re not talking about them committing a crime. The crimes are the garbage sanctions.

  6. At least he got to be a champagne-swilling, limo-riding, whore-buying star when he was in college. He will always have that.

  7. Bush wants everyone to pay attention to the people who did what he did – break the rules.
    Whether he thinks it’s fair or not, they are the rules, and the majority of athletes follow them.
    He chose not to and now he’s paying a price for it – which is typically what happens when people break a rule and get caught.
    Also, doesn’t getting a scholarship for a 4-year degree count for something? Isn’t that a payment of sorts? I know a lot of folks who incurred some fairly serious debt paying for their college degree.

  8. They are getting nothing?
    A lot of these kids do not even have the intellectual capacity to hold down the most basic jobs and they are getting educations at top colleges for free and all the special treatment they could ever wish for and a few (very few) of them turn out to be talented enough to play pro sports.
    Bush should get his head out of whatever orifice he seems to have jammed it in and start earning some of the money he is making instead of all this whining.
    I bet you there are a million C- students in the country who would have loved to take his scholarships and acceptance to USC if he is so ungrateful.

  9. Doesn’t this guy have advisors, lawyers, PR people etc. that can convince him how freakin’ stupid he sounds and how he keeps perpetuating his fraud by not admitting it but always talking about it. What a freakin’ douche bag.

  10. Everybody knows a college education is free, right?
    Just another shit-for-brains retard trying to justify having the rules bent for themselves. Typical “saint”.

  11. It seems Reggie lives in a fairy tale land and wants us to join him in his illusions. We can all clearly see that he is just a poor innocent victim trying to make his way in the world. Poor Reggie. He didn’t do anything he’s accused of doing but he still gave up his Heisman. Slain yet innocent.
    It seems to me that a network would do well to do an investigative story, like on 60 minutes (wrong network I know, NBC should have do it as a special program), documenting how Reggie has been unfairly targeted, forced to settle lawsuits and even give up his Heisman Trophy despite the fact that he’s not guilty as alleged.
    We need to understand the motivation and who is behind these false accusations against Reggie. Why all this effort to unfairly smear him 5 years later and how is it that the people behind this are so powerful that Reggie can’t defend himself despite being a millionaire? He’s made to settle lawsuits and forfeit his Heisman, all despite the fact he is innocent.
    Fairy tale land.

  12. That’s what lawyers are for. Reggie lives in his own little world. Reggie’s senior year at USC was the high water mark in his football career.
    GO STEELERS!

  13. What if his teachers fudged his grades sobje would be eligible?
    Should taut require forfeiture of individual awards too?
    Can agree if he took performance enhancing supplements, but money from agents is a bit silly when it comes to individual awards.

  14. I heard an NFL Play 60 commercial on the radio the other day. It ended with Reggie saying something to the effect of, “Okay, kids! Now we can ALL play!” I immediately added, “Yeah, on third downs.”

  15. Seems that Reggie Bush is a Clintonian when it comes to “truth.”
    Of course, that depends on what your definition of the word, “is,” is.

  16. He has truly matured Florio you jackass. Nobody cares about this. If they did an investigation into every Heisman winner the last 20 years they would find plenty of things to scrutinize. Reggie just happened to have to idiot ex agents trying to track down his money.
    Nobody cares about this Florio. Looks like Reggie must have backed over your kitten when you were little or make you look a bumbling fool like Mike Wise……because you are obviously going to beat this dead horse to the ground also.
    He hasn’t done any damage to his legacy. He didn’t cheat you moron. He took some money from agents. Happens every day, he just happens to be high profile.
    You are such a moron Florio.

  17. Some thing I have known for quite a while.
    If Reggie Boosh had stroked a check to the people he ‘owed’ (micheals and lake) No one outside of that circle would have smelled anything.
    He was the 2005 heismann winner, best college player of the year… every thing since then individually has been shit.

  18. Reggie’s transgressions don’t seem to be as egregious as many want to think. Why do so many people flat out lust for Reggie to be pilloried for being an underprivileged youth who accepted offerings for his family and himself?
    You want to fry someone? Fry Lawrence Phillips for hauling his girlfriend at the time up flights of stairs dragging her up by the hair. Fry that idiot in Florida who texted how he was going to kill some chick he was stalking while she was with the cops. How about that Baylor basketball player who murdered a teammate with a headshot from behind?
    Those are big deals.
    There are different degrees of violations of the penal code. Reggie’s is small potatoes.
    It seems as though some “high and mighty” types like to get on their soap box and posture as if they’re personally holier than thou.
    Further irksome is the people who seek to crucify Bush. Not exactly saints themselves. No pun intended.

  19. I’m no Reggie Bush fan, nor do I have a “horse in the 2005 Heisman race” …
    However, Bush should only be forced to give up the trophy we all* (all being anyone who actually watched college football in 2005) watched him earn, if and only if USC abdicates the money it earned on every single game he played in during 2005, including the national championship game at the Rose Bowl.
    It’s completely and absolutely hypocritical for USC to abdicate the Heisman (and put pressure on Bush to do so) 5 years after the financial windfall they experienced as a direct result of his thrilling on-the field abilities.
    Unless and until USC (and to a lesser extent, the NCAA in general) donates 100% of any and all “profits” garnered during the 2005 season, I’ll still believe that Bush deserves the Heisman.
    NCAA & USC, put your money where your mouth is. Otherwise, STFU.

  20. who needs a heisman when youve got a sb ring?
    reggie should send the ncaa a replica of the trophy and an invoice for all the millions he generated for that excuse of an organization that doesnt even pay taxes.

  21. First off, very few colleges are making millions of dollars off the backs of these “kids”. As a matter of fact, the majority of colleges don’t make any money off their footbal program.
    Secondly, these 18-23 year old student athletes aren’t “kids” and they need to stop being called kids. They’re old enough to vote, do hard time, go to war, they’re not kids.
    Finally, they are getting paid. Many of these “kids” are getting scholarships that are worth between $40,000-$60,000, have access to free tutors, and also have a nod-wink arrangement as far as their schedule and grades are concerned. These athletes get all of the perks in college, access to the better fitness facility, the better dining halls with unlimited food plans, the best dorms, etc. Give me an effing break. All of these guys know the deal going into college, if they don’t like it perhaps they should pay their own ways to school like the rest of the “kids”.

  22. No body cares. The NCAA and Universities have a wonderful slavery system. They hide under the facade that these young athletes are amatures while they make hundreds of millions. The Olympics has wised up. So should college athletics.

  23. It’s not an admission of guilt. It’s a statement of just how insignificant the Heisman seems fives years and and Super Bowl win later.
    Why give back the trophy, well because it’s worth it just to get rid of some hassle. Bush has been playing pro-football for a while now, his college days probably don’t feel that important now. He may never live up to the pre-draft hype, but he is multi-millionaire. He is playing on a good team and he is probably reconciled to the fact that any money he took in college had precisely no influence on the way he played in games.
    Did having those championships and games stripped from the record hurt. Probably not a lot if at all. Personally, I think this is a calculated dis to Heismen organisation.
    “Have your trophy back, I am just not that bothered.”
    Don’t get me wrong, I think Bush is an intolerable tool, who should have just paid those guys their money back. Still it is amusing watching the NCAA puffing up their little chests and thinking that anyone beyond USC really gives a damn about their sanctions. Retospectively changing results, long after they happened. OOOOOOOooooooo, slap those wrists.

  24. Repeal all this puritanical “amateur sports” nonsense and allow college players to cut whatever deals they can as long as they don’t drag the school’s name through the mud in in some way (e.g. don’t turn your jersey into a NASCAR driver uniform or go on TV endorsing the local strip club). The universities otherwise have no business trying to control students’ lives or livelihoods unless there is some reputational issue at stake.
    Why shouldn’t Tim Tebow have cashed in on Tebowmania while in college?

  25. I am absouletly tired of these jerk athletes complaining about playing for free in college. Where do they think their scholarship money comes from. If they want to be paid then charge them full rate for books, tutors, room and board and all college fees. Make them carry the grades also with no more freebie course studies like ballroom dancing and pottery. If they want to be paid make them earn the @#*&%@ grades like every other real student. A bet they would go back to the old way in a minute.
    As for earning the Heisman, that is for the best amatuer college football player. He clearly was not an amatuer based on his pay so even if he was the best player that year (and he was) he was not an amatuer and not allowed to get the award period.

  26. re: Wick says:
    September 17, 2010 1:18 AM
    Reggie’s transgressions don’t seem to be as egregious as many want to think. Why do so many people flat out lust for Reggie to be pilloried for being an underprivileged youth who accepted offerings for his family and himself?
    You want to fry someone? Fry Lawrence Phillips for hauling his girlfriend at the time up flights of stairs dragging her up by the hair. Fry that idiot in Florida who texted how he was going to kill some chick he was stalking while she was with the cops. How about that Baylor basketball player who murdered a teammate with a headshot from behind?
    Those are big deals.
    There are different degrees of violations of the penal code. Reggie’s is small potatoes.
    It seems as though some “high and mighty” types like to get on their soap box and posture as if they’re personally holier than thou.
    Further irksome is the people who seek to crucify Bush. Not exactly saints themselves. No pun intended.
    ————————————————
    Perfectly said Wick!! Nice Job!

  27. I hate the “I’m human. I made a mistake” excuse.
    A mistake is forgetting to get something at the store, making a wrong turn, or forgetting to carry the one when adding.
    What Bush did was not a mistake but a risk and he got caught. This time HE got caught. There are others out there that still have not been caught but their whole life is constantly filled with watching their back. Some will get away with it. Others won’t.
    It’s not a ‘mistake’ until you get caught I guess.

  28. Anyone who believes Bush gave back his trophy on principle is very naive.
    It’s like when someone is given the chance to resign instead of getting fired to save face. Bush was given the opportunity to do something that allowed him to look a little better than if the committee would have stripped him outright.
    What do you think that meeting was for – to catch up on old times and see if the jacket still fits?

  29. Nobody cares except those who could never carry the kid’s jockstrap in the 1st place…5 years later???Big F’n deal,he did what practically EVERY blue chip kid does,he gave in 2 temptation by factions who continue 2 prey on kids with zero consequences…And those who use an OJ comparison are usually the types whose uncle and daddy are the same person….bit I digress…

  30. I know it’s against the rules, but he technically didn’t get paid for playing college football. he got paid based on future speculation of employment…that being said rules are rules. He should’ve just played football and waited to cash in when we was drafted. It sounds to me if he could go back that is the mistake he would not make.

  31. People comment on here, personal jabs at Florio.
    Do you REALLY think he reads them, and secondly, do you really think he cares or is bothered by it? His articles are SUPPOSED to generate comments, duh!

  32. napgamer says:
    As for earning the Heisman, that is for the best amatuer college football player. He clearly was not an amatuer based on his pay so even if he was the best player that year (and he was) he was not an amatuer and not allowed to get the award period.
    ————————————————-
    BINGO!
    These “students” know the deal from day one:
    To get to play football in college, the NFL’s only “development league”, you need to be a student. They know they aren’t really there to study and get a degree, and in return for torturing and jeopardizing their bodies – for the financial gain of these institutions – they will receive no compensation nor be charged any tuition. They are, however, provided a “stage” in which they can showcase their talents for an eventual (hopefully) future NFL employer, who CAN pay them large sums of money.
    It’s a deal with the devil that every student athlete makes.
    And when the “devil” presents himself in the form of an agent bearing large amounts of money that they know they aren’t supposed to accept, they cease to be amatuers and they forfeit the privelidge to play college football. Is the temptation large? Sure, it’s huge! But life is full of temptations, and there are no excuses.
    The college system isn’t “broken”. Everyone knows the deal going in; the schools, the athletes, the NFL, and yes, the devil himself: the agents. Reggie Bush knew the deal, accepted it when he stepped onto that campus,and knew the consequences, and made the wrong choice. Cry no tears for him.
    End of story.

  33. “Reggie Bush claims giving up Heisman isn’t an admission of guilt..”
    ————————
    Thats right. Just like Michael Jackson paying 10 million bucks to that kid didn’t mean he actually molested him. No one believes you Reggie so give it a rest. You were an absolute idiot for not paying off the grifters who fronted you and your family money when you had the chance. It was only when you stiffed them that they went to the NCAA, Yahoo, and the courts.
    Idiot!!!

  34. By handing back the Heisman trophy without being forced to do so he’s admitting he feels guilt about the situation about what he did. If he really feels he did nothing wrong then keep the trophy if I had said the same things up to this point that’s what I would’ve done.
    Regardless, this whole situation puts a bad light on college football and delves into an area most would like kept hidden. With the bigger problem being that it’s really hard to stop or prevent. I just wish those getting punished were Bush, his parents, and Pete Carroll. Instead the only person getting into trouble who deserved from USC is Lane Kiffin.

  35. Wha Wha Wha I don’t get paid to “sacrifice my body” for my college team…
    Well you know what? No one is making you play… You get a chance to eb on TV, get a shot at a pro career, and get a free $150,000 education that you will most likely need when you DONT go pro….
    I don’t see what the problem is… Paying college players would only make them worse…

  36. oh yes it’s an admission.
    i spellchecked the above before hitting ‘submit’. yall should try it some time, mr. mike and mr. gregg.

  37. Riiiiiiight. And Pete Carroll didn’t leave USC b/c of the inevitable sanctions.
    If you are innocent, why would you give it back, knowing that it makes you look guilty? What innocent person makes himself look guity? And he knows it makes him look guilty, otherwise he wouldn’t have made the comment.
    If he was innocent, it would be an easy fight. But for some odd reason, Bush (who has millions to defend himself) does not.

  38. Yes, there is a huge disparity in the money a university makes off of athletes in the major sports versus the amount students are “paid” to play ball. But why isn’t Bush saying “I blew the opportunity to get a free education that most people with my socio-economic background but not my athletic skills never receive?” Why is everything about cash? Take the free education and learn how to go make a living like 99.99% of everyone else who goes to college. I would love to see Bush’s transcript.
    It really rankles my ass when a gifted athlete who otherwise could never get into an educational institution on grades complains about being used. Ivy Leaguers and DIII athletes don’t get that advantage, to say nothing about those athletes at major colleges who play tennis or squash or one of the other non-revenue sports. Their financial aid package may increase, but the focus is on academics.
    There does need to be reform across the board and it needs to encompass the collegiate athletic machine at all levels and at with all sports. Bush used USC as much as USC used Bush. They are both despicable.

  39. Anyone besides me think it’s interesting that a man named “Bush” dates a woman who’s shaved hers ????

  40. Re: Sandra Lee’s Cans says:
    September 17, 2010 11:05 AM
    “Bush used USC as much as USC used Bush”
    —————————
    You bleeding heart liberals make my ass sick.
    I love how you “magically” forget the 100 K worth of free tuition he got, plus any other
    “perks” such as women, etc. that being on a high profile program like USC he was afforded, just by being there.
    Idiot.

  41. listen this is how i see this stupid but very easy to fix problem… I read these dumb people write how these athletes get all these perks worth $100,000 or maybe more.. well here is my answer to that.. jersey sales alone for reggie bush well over 1million on the college level…. you tell me if he would have said ok i get a percent of what i bring to the table. I then have no problem giving you your pennies back that you give me… these college players need to form a players union on the college level… parents start standing up for your kids and dont let them be slaves for these bullying college’s that see your children as thier next pay check…. It all starts with the student and the parent put your foot down and stop this…..

  42. PackFaninPackLand says:
    September 17, 2010 11:42 AM
    Re: Sandra Lee’s Cans says:
    September 17, 2010 11:05 AM
    “Bush used USC as much as USC used Bush”
    ——————– ——-
    You bleeding heart liberals make my ass sick.
    I love how you “magically” forget the 100 K worth of free tuition he got, plus any other
    “perks” such as women, etc. that being on a high profile program like USC he was afforded, just by being there.
    Idiot.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Read the second sentence of my first paragraph, stupid. I specifically mentioned free education. In fact, you completely missed the meaning of my post. Why don’t you have someone help you go through it again? What the hell do you think I meant by saying Bush used USC as much as USC used him?
    Idiot.

  43. Wick says:
    September 17, 2010 1:18 AM
    Reggie’s transgressions don’t seem to be as egregious as many want to think. Why do so many people flat out lust for Reggie to be pilloried for being an underprivileged youth who accepted offerings for his family and himself?
    You want to fry someone? Fry Lawrence Phillips for hauling his girlfriend at the time up flights of stairs dragging her up by the hair. Fry that idiot in Florida who texted how he was going to kill some chick he was stalking while she was with the cops. How about that Baylor basketball player who murdered a teammate with a headshot from behind?
    Those are big deals.
    There are different degrees of violations of the penal code. Reggie’s is small potatoes.
    It seems as though some “high and mighty” types like to get on their soap box and posture as if they’re personally holier than thou.
    Further irksome is the people who seek to crucify Bush. Not exactly saints themselves. No pun intended.
    ******************************
    Good point.
    If you can play ball, you shouldn’t be responsible for anything short of murder.

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