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T.O. has more to say about Favre, takes aim at Sanchez

Last Tuesday, Bengals receivers Chad Ochocinco and Terrell Owens began contributing weekly segments to The Daily Line on Versus, in advance of the debut on October 12 of The T.Ocho Show.  The most intriguing tidbit came from T.O.’s rant regarding the contention that the media has given Vikings quarterback Brett Favre a pass for not showing up to training camp.

This week, Owens took it a step farther, pointing to the perceived lack of criticism regarding Favre’s “mistakes” in Week One against the Saints.  Owens believes that if he or Ochocinco had skipped camp and made mistakes in Week One, they would have faced greater criticism.

“When it comes to us we’re held to another standard which is not in a positive light when it comes to the media, so I think . . . when it comes to skin color I think it does have something to do with it,” Owens said.

As to the Jets’ performance on Monday night against the Ravens, Owens took aim at quarterback Mark Sanchez.

“If they’re gonna put him on a platform like that, if they’re gonna make him the next Joe Namath, so to speak, then he has to come out there and he has to perform on a weekly basis,” Owens said.  “I expected a lot more out of Sanchez myself.”

Owens also applied a nickname to Jets cornerbacks Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie based on their performance on Monday night:  Ren and Stimpy.

Did we mention that the Jets and the Bengals play each other on Thanksgiving?

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  1. Mean Leroy Brown says: Sep 16, 2010 7:18 AM

    What TO is doing is called the “Look at the Wookie” defense, made famous by Johnny Cochran.
    Florio, you may have heard of him?

  2. Heybeerman95 says: Sep 16, 2010 7:22 AM

    I guess the fact the the two of you act like horses asses has nothing to do with the way the media perceives you. Skin color has nothing to do with it.

  3. Otis Taylor 89 says: Sep 16, 2010 7:23 AM

    Thanksgiving…get your popcorn ready!

  4. hizzle1281 says: Sep 16, 2010 7:23 AM

    The Pets are going no where this year.

  5. Beckzhere says: Sep 16, 2010 7:25 AM

    Favre’s lack of criticism is because of his skin color, not the fact that he is a Hall of Fame veteran who never goes through training camp anyway. Simply because he is white means that he should absolved. TO, you get more ignorant by the day.

  6. Munze Konza says: Sep 16, 2010 7:26 AM

    Favre was villified for nto knowing his receivers well enough and skipping camp. T.O. wants to make a race issue out of the media being kind to Favre? They are all over him, every day, several times…Favre has gotten more bad press the last 3 years than T.O.!
    T.O. needs to not call this a race issue, because it makes real race issues get questioned unnecessarily.
    What an idiot.

  7. smiley says: Sep 16, 2010 7:27 AM

    Skin color ha!! It’s because the guy is one of the best QBs of all time. After last year’s performance from Favre and he’s going to say its about skin color? C’mon dude!!! Hail!

  8. mustbechris says: Sep 16, 2010 7:27 AM

    It’s partially because of their skin color I guess, to an extent, but it’s more because of their respective contract holdouts and the immature ways in which they handled them. These things matter, and TO’s inability to realize his own mistakes and take responsibility for them shows that he hasn’t grown much since then.
    Just sayin’.

  9. MACK DADDY says: Sep 16, 2010 7:27 AM

    Come on T.O. you know people don’t criticize Favre, they make excuses for him.

  10. County K 66ers says: Sep 16, 2010 7:31 AM

    He’s right!

  11. Chapnasty. says: Sep 16, 2010 7:31 AM

    I hope to God when I have children they can grow up in a world where morons aren’t allowed to use skin color as an excuse for everything.
    It is clear that Ochostinko and TO should be known as dumb and dumber. As entertaining as they may be at times, everything that comes out of their mouths seems to be dumber than the dumbest thing they said before.

  12. mrzazz41387 says: Sep 16, 2010 7:31 AM

    How are they going to talk trash about anyone, when they didn’t win either.

  13. jrotten says: Sep 16, 2010 7:34 AM

    Love the new nicknames.

  14. Topher says: Sep 16, 2010 7:36 AM

    There is about to be a load of people calling TO a racist in these comments and the not-so-subtle racism will be rampant (it always is) before that all begins I want to state:
    TO has said something many of us are thinking but wouldn’t dare say out loud. Favre gets special treatment and always has. Its hard not to wonder if its because he’s white.
    Maybe its just because he’s attractive and charismatic…. but does that make it any better?
    People are going to say its because he’s earned it. But honestly, what has he done? He has as many Super Bowl wins as Eli Manning.

  15. brady12 says: Sep 16, 2010 7:37 AM

    Idiot on Idiot crime….I love it

  16. MrsH1978 says: Sep 16, 2010 7:38 AM

    As much as I love the Bengals, I’m really starting to regret signing T.O. He thrives on negative attention, but now it’s not just negative towards him, but to the whole organization. Who in their right mind makes these kind of remarks about one of the greatest quarterbacks the NFL has ever seen? Then again, T.O. has never been accused of being in his right mind… It’s only week 2 of the season and I’m already tired of T.O. and his need to be in the spotlight. Bad move Mr. Brown. (surprise, right?)

  17. Jag4Life says: Sep 16, 2010 7:39 AM

    Of course Farve gets a pass because of his skin color an everyone knows it. T.O. isn’t saying anything that’s breaking news. Farve has ONE Super Bowl ring and he wasn’t even the MVP.

  18. FoF says: Sep 16, 2010 7:40 AM

    So what is T.O.’s excuse by being at all of camp and still looking like sh$t his first game?

  19. ruthel says: Sep 16, 2010 7:42 AM

    Note to Owens:
    SHUT UP!

  20. RedsDouche says: Sep 16, 2010 7:44 AM

    Ahh jesus T.O. STFU already. I started defending you but now it’s getting hard to defend. Yeah you and Chad had decent #’s last week but we still got BEAT. And no they don’t judge you and Chad by your skin color. They judge you by how much attention you guys like to draw to yourselves and in the way you guys try to draw it. Favre isn’t out doing reality TV. He’s not giving himself a nickname from a fictional cartoon character. Yeah I don’t like what he’s doing as much as you don’t but you can’t compare the publicity he gets to the publicity you and Chad get b/c it’s like comparing apples to oranges. Oh and before you start berating other QB’s in the league, how about you look at our QB and say something considering he should have thrown 6 INT’s last week if it weren’t for the Patsies secondary having butterfingers.

  21. mborz says: Sep 16, 2010 7:44 AM

    The explanation for this is simple: People who run their mouths face greater criticism when they don’t perform.
    It’s the same reason people were all over Rex Ryan on Tuesday.

  22. Steveo54 says: Sep 16, 2010 7:44 AM

    He uses skin color as a reason for accountability other than the real reason, that is when you are always running your mouth about (POOR ME) all the time, you are bound to be more of a focus for criticisim. That and being a true bigot, making racist statements.
    Besides that I believe that receivers, and QB’s will always be seperated in how they are perceived.

  23. SomeFans says: Sep 16, 2010 7:45 AM

    How about “dumb and dumber?”

  24. DanSnyderSux says: Sep 16, 2010 7:45 AM

    While T.O. may have a point, maybe he should worry about his team being 0-1 than other teams’ players.

  25. ericmetcalf says: Sep 16, 2010 7:48 AM

    Ren and Stimpy? Hahahahahaha.

  26. DB26 says: Sep 16, 2010 7:50 AM

    Do the world a favor & STFU. When mentioning skin color, you fail to discuss the Rooney Rule which makes teams 1) Potentially skip over good white coaches 2) Makes teams disrespect potential black coaches by having to interview them because they are black, even if they have NO interest in hiring them. Ask Leslie Frazier about that one.
    You have officially put yourself into moron status & I hope my boy TJ Ward knocks you the **** out next weekend! ? You deserve it, fo sho nuckah!

  27. Caldon says: Sep 16, 2010 7:52 AM

    I guess TO doesn’t read anything because I have never seen Farve take as much heat and hate, not only from PFT but from other media outlets and fans in general as I have the last 2 to 3 years, including but not limited to the retirement/non retirement issue and the skipping training camp. He was blasted for his mistakes in the playoff’s last year, taken to the woodshed for his “money grab” this offseason and for skipping camp.
    So, I don’t know what else would satisify TO. Does he want the prez to hold a press conference?

  28. Old School says: Sep 16, 2010 7:53 AM

    T O is an idiot for playing the race card. This vicitim mindset is weak.On everything else he says about BrINT he is right on the money. In the eyes of most media BrINT can do no wrong. The fans of the teams he infected know better.

  29. Bwa Ha Ha says: Sep 16, 2010 7:53 AM

    Diva talk, gotta love diva talk.

  30. JoeCool16280 says: Sep 16, 2010 7:54 AM

    T.O. is right.

  31. Pat_McCrotch2.0 says: Sep 16, 2010 7:55 AM

    Big talk from a man who nobody else wanted 2 even sniff. ocho saved owens ass. by getting him a job. prob w ppl like T.O is the spotlight isnt on him he makes it his duty to do wuteva gets his name n the headlines. why do u think he brings up farve or dirty sanchez? ima laugh when the bugals FAIL to reach post season. 7-9

  32. allinSTACKme says: Sep 16, 2010 7:55 AM

    T.O., STFU AND GO THE F*CK AWAY YOU LOSER. Favre gets a pass becuase he hasn’t been crybaby loser that throws other people under the bus constantly. LEAVE THE RACE BULL SH*T OUT OF IT!

  33. alewatcher says: Sep 16, 2010 7:56 AM

    T.O. is right about Favre getting a free pass from the media regarding his not showing up for camp. Favre was obviously not in sync with his receivers, which is why you have training camp in the first place. But, Favre gets a pass on pretty much everything because he’s Brett Favre.

  34. Bzilla says: Sep 16, 2010 7:57 AM

    “When it comes to us we’re held to another standard which is not in a positive light when it comes to the media, so I think . . . when it comes to skin color I think it does have something to do with it,” Owens said.
    Really?? Favre has a history of being a great teammate(say most)….YOU? Ask the Eagles fans! lol. Favre is a soon to be 41 year old future H.O.F…….YOU? Not so much! Favre plays the most important position on the field…YOU? Not so much! Has Favre fathered five kids with five different mothers then basically abandoned them??? Skin color or a$$hole factor? I vote a$$hole factor!!!!!!!

  35. TDHawk says: Sep 16, 2010 7:59 AM

    Yeah, I’m sure T.O’s troubles and “abuse” by the media is all about racism and has nothing whatsoever to do with his obnoxious, even stupid, behavior. Same thing with his presently limited and future non-existant endorsements, it’s all about skin color, probably the same with Tiger too.

  36. pondbridge says: Sep 16, 2010 8:00 AM

    Did T.O. get that brain for free in a box of Cracker Jack? Wadda maroon. The good news is that he’ll be cut before Week 5 and then he’ll be invisible. Good riddance.

  37. NFreakinL says: Sep 16, 2010 8:03 AM

    Ok, its FARVE missing training camp, not Dennis Dixon or Tavaris Jackson. The team didn’t bitch about it (but they should have).
    I wouldn’t have bitched if McNabb avoided camp, why? He knew what it takes to win, he knows the system, and he’s a professional-you know he would be ready. I don’t think it’s a race issue at all. So maybe T.O. is calling out all the “brothers” on the Vikes for not speaking out?

  38. Krow says: Sep 16, 2010 8:05 AM

    TO is the NFL’s top rent boy.

  39. mylittleben says: Sep 16, 2010 8:05 AM

    I don’t think Favre would have headed to the locker room before time had expired in the half.
    T.O., STFU you are nothing but drama, act like a man

  40. JetReaper says: Sep 16, 2010 8:05 AM

    LOL.. I expected more out of Carson Palmer in the ####### PLAYOFFS!!!!!!
    Worry about your own house….
    So far you were Demolished in the 1st half of a game and then got some GARBAGE points…
    Now Palmer faces the Ravens defense… Lets see what happens there…
    Palmer ended last year list a CFL Qb not worthy of being in the NFL and so far got garbage points…
    To me the book is out on your own guy.

  41. Bullet six says: Sep 16, 2010 8:07 AM

    I am a Ravens fan but I like Chad Ocho. I really don’t like that fact that T.O. is speaking so much on chads behalf. I think that Chad has befriended T.O. so now T.O. thinks he can do that. But Chad isnt the a cancer like T.O. is, but he has pulled him into his corner. Chad, separate yourself from the MORON!!!!! You are better than that!

  42. JustTheFacts says: Sep 16, 2010 8:09 AM

    It’s all in good fun.
    He’d never say something about Ray Lewis or some head hunting strong safety, though. Or maybe he would.
    He’s #51 on pro-football reference all time list (since 1950) of its approximate value group of player.
    (That approximate value formula is way too complicated to explain and even on the site I’m still reading about it to learn more.)
    He’s a great player that, if he kept his mouth shut and didn’t throw almost every one under the bus, he would be considered a lot better than what we think of him now.
    Terrell Eldorado Owens (yes, that’s his middle name! I didn’t know that until today).

  43. Andre Park says: Sep 16, 2010 8:09 AM

    Mark Sanchez = Heath Shuler

  44. Colts18 says: Sep 16, 2010 8:09 AM

    Dirty sanchez played scared. Ray lewis thoroughly frightened the young man. He will pick it up but probably not by much.
    Any more news on Ines Sainz and how the NFL is a bunch of horny men? And you cant blame the women for dressing provocatively, because its the only reason they got the job in the first place?
    Portis was right.

  45. Clownsfan says: Sep 16, 2010 8:09 AM

    Ren & Stimpy……..pretty damn funny.

  46. GreenAsGrass says: Sep 16, 2010 8:12 AM

    whatever….Revis on Chad Johnson and Cromartie or Gholston or Betty White covering T.O. will do it.

  47. Rex Grossman says: Sep 16, 2010 8:13 AM

    He is right about the skin color thing.

  48. PrimeTime says: Sep 16, 2010 8:14 AM

    Jets set themselves up for this, the entire league is laughing at them…

  49. BP says: Sep 16, 2010 8:14 AM

    Maybe it does have something to do with skin color. Maybe it has to do with having a big mouth. Maybe it has to do with not being 42. Whichever of the some or none of these differences are pertinent we will likely never know. But we do know TO is comparing apples and oranges.

  50. PatFic says: Sep 16, 2010 8:16 AM

    T.O was eventually going to have these comments baited from his rather large, rather wrong mouth. If the conversation revolves around color, stupidity, and free passes, let us rather use the following names: Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, Big Al Sharpton…just to name a few. This is a non story, but it in the ultrasensitive PC America, it becomes one…

  51. Huddy says: Sep 16, 2010 8:18 AM

    Note to T.O. It’s not a race thing. It’s a shut up and play thing. Put yourself out in the media with your gums flapping and you become a target. Shut up and play and you get very little airtime…of yeah I forgot…you seek the limelight…my bad.

  52. Crazy Nick says: Sep 16, 2010 8:21 AM

    The Bengals have been a bunch of “blowhards” for 40 years.
    #81 and #85 are perfect players for that pathetic excuse of a franchise.

  53. CaptainObvious says: Sep 16, 2010 8:21 AM

    “..he has to come out there and he has to perform on a weekly basis,” Owens said. “I expected a lot more out of Sanchez myself.”
    Me-O = 7 for 13, 53 yards.
    Almost good enough to make a High School team/

  54. Daytona Ken says: Sep 16, 2010 8:22 AM

    Didn’t the Bengals get an ass-whupin’ last Sunday. I can’t believe T.O. is calling people names. Is Marvin Lewis this stupid?

  55. Tombradysbaby says: Sep 16, 2010 8:24 AM

    “When it comes to us we’re held to another standard which is not in a positive light when it comes to the media, so I think . . . when it comes to skin color I think it does have something to do with it,” Owens said.
    ——————————————————
    No, you’re wrong. It’s because you’re a loud mouthed jackass and the media likes to poke you to see which way your head will spin next.
    T.O you’re a tool.

  56. afogg0855 says: Sep 16, 2010 8:25 AM

    Look in the mirror t.o. you got shut down by a rookie from Rutgers in his first game ever. Batman and robin looked mire like the ambiguously gay duo.

  57. mbbrazi says: Sep 16, 2010 8:33 AM

    When Terrell Owens and Chad Johnson retire they will find out the hard way just how much respect they really have which is less than zero-much like their personalities. Goodell does not get paid enough for putting up with immature assclowns like these two, they’re not entertaining-they’re sickening!!!

  58. AllThat says: Sep 16, 2010 8:33 AM

    @afogg0855 says:
    September 16, 2010 8:25 AM
    Look in the mirror t.o. you got shut down by a rookie from Rutgers in his first game ever. Batman and robin looked mire like the ambiguously gay duo.
    =================================
    great reference………………..

  59. PFTiswhatitis says: Sep 16, 2010 8:33 AM

    Wow, T.O. thinking Favre’s special treatment is race related, how twisted.

  60. promichael says: Sep 16, 2010 8:33 AM

    Wow! T.O. should start his own web site;
    T O’s World………

  61. MACHINE GUN IBIZA says: Sep 16, 2010 8:38 AM

    Who the hell even gets Versus? Of those that do, who the hell watches it? I think the Tractor Pull Channel attracts more viewers…..
    And as far as Lord Favre “getting a pass” for his annual will he or won’t he BS it seems to me he was crucified by the media this year. So WTF is douchebag talking about anyway?

  62. whiteboy_eddie says: Sep 16, 2010 8:38 AM

    FARVE is a overrated bum just like Sanchez

  63. LuvThatDirtyWatah says: Sep 16, 2010 8:41 AM

    When all else fails reach into your back pocket and pull out the Race Card. Yawn.

  64. Bazooka Joe says: Sep 16, 2010 8:41 AM

    Uhh, maybe T.O. should be focused on a big PURPLE AND BLACK machine headed his way this Sunday.

  65. VonClausewitz says: Sep 16, 2010 8:49 AM

    T.O. is wrong about the Favre/racism. To test his theory you just have to take a comparable QB who happens to be black, imagine they acted like Favre did for the last half-decade, and take a guess at the criticism they would have received. If Steve McNair (RIP) or McNabb had pulled a Favre they would be treated exactly like Favre was. You know it ain’t like Favre wasn’t taking shots from everyone for his diva ways. He most certainly was.
    Now if you were to apply the same test to a WR you’re looking at a completely different result. I think this has more to do with WRs generally being irritating divas. There’s a bit of karmic vengeance happening.

  66. steveinohio says: Sep 16, 2010 8:49 AM

    TO is right. I can’t beleive I just said that. He will get blasted for talking about another player, but if it was Sexy Rexy that said it, the media would be gushing.

  67. rayray1284 says: Sep 16, 2010 8:50 AM

    always got to bring up race. will al sharpton and jesse jackson be on the show next week.

  68. pftfanboy says: Sep 16, 2010 8:55 AM

    the guy is 41, gets battered to a pulp, never misses a game, and plays like he is 14 – with enthusiasm and a smile.
    i dont like the hold out nonsense and the drama, but the guy makes it tough to dislike him once the games are played.
    T.O and Chad on the other hand, have given every fan a cause to bristle more than a few times.

  69. Truth says: Sep 16, 2010 9:05 AM

    Excellent point brought by T.O. on Favre!

  70. jcjets says: Sep 16, 2010 9:05 AM

    Sports “Journalisim” is dead, if it ever existed anyway. Favre sells and the media is just keeping the golden goose alive.
    But really, TO can’t say shit! He’s had issues for YEARS. And Before the whole retirement
    fiasco(s), Favre was a media darling.

  71. crimsonking52 says: Sep 16, 2010 9:06 AM

    When TO has put together the king of career that Farve has he may be able to come in the week before game 1. Until then he is just a little maladjusted adolescent with a persecution complex. These guys always dig their own graves.

  72. EverybodyGotAIDS says: Sep 16, 2010 9:08 AM

    Are you kidding me? Tom Brady (who last time I checked was white) got SLAMMED in the media for missing a couple of voluntary practices in the offseason. VOLUNTARY. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with 75 year old Brett Favre giving hope to every old, out of shape journalist out there because a guy their age can still play in the NFL.

  73. Canned Gravy says: Sep 16, 2010 9:09 AM

    Terrell Eldorado Owens (yes, that’s his middle name! I didn’t know that until today).
    ___________________________________
    That’s funny, seeing as how he was born in a Ford Fairlane.
    These two clowns need a movie together….a combo between Dumb and Dumber and Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure mixed with House Party and I’m Gonna Get You Sucka.
    Choko would be better to disassociate himself with Turdell.

  74. Austskate says: Sep 16, 2010 9:09 AM

    Ask your co-host what happened last time he played the Jets. Chad were still waiting for that name change back to Johnson. Thank you

  75. shiftyshellshocked says: Sep 16, 2010 9:10 AM

    The guy hasn’t shut his gigantic mouth since day one. Brett Favre brings more money and more exposure to the NFL than any other player in the game today. You can see this just by the hits this site gets every time Favre’s name is mentioned. T.O. is jealous of the money and the press Favre gets every day. T.O. is the poster boy for all that’s wrong in the NFL. Skol Vikes.

  76. Snowman2008 says: Sep 16, 2010 9:10 AM

    First, any TV I see tuned in to The T.Ocho Show goes out the window.
    Second, I’m giving TO a break with those comments. The poor guy just can not depend on his performances on the field of play to get attention any longer.
    I understand the Has Been. Honest I do.

  77. HarrisonHits says: Sep 16, 2010 9:11 AM

    While he’s right in that Farve has gotten a free pass on staying away from camp, he’s wrong that the press and fans pick on TO because of skin color. Sorry TO, being an A-HOLE is universal and has nothing to do with skin color. You are just a jerk of epic proportions.

  78. dscjmc says: Sep 16, 2010 9:13 AM

    Of course TO would have to throw the ‘race flag’. Very typical.

  79. PSURavens says: Sep 16, 2010 9:14 AM

    Shocker! A man of color brings the race card up, again.

  80. betheball says: Sep 16, 2010 9:17 AM

    “If they’re gonna put him on a platform like that, if they’re gonna make him the next Joe Namath, so to speak, then he has to come out there and he has to perform on a weekly basis,” Owens said. “I expected a lot more out of Sanchez myself.”
    Considering the fact that Namath was a career 50% passer with 65.5 passer rating, I might have used a different example.

  81. Steve W. says: Sep 16, 2010 9:20 AM

    @ Topher
    Yes, Favre only won one SB, but he also has all of the prominent career passing records. So, if anyone would have earned a little leniency for acting out every so often, then it would be someone like Favre. Having said that, where is this free pass? He’s been absolutely trashed in the media and by quite a few fans for waffling about whether or not he was going to come back for another year and skipping training camp. Along the way, Favre has pretty much gone out of his way to avoid the media. During the whole ordeal, he gave one real interview, and that was to a local newspaper reporter.
    T.O. has has gone out of his way to get as much attention as possible, and along the way has caused havoc in the locker rooms of the 49ers, the Eagles, and the Cowboys. Did the Eagles fans who sided with McNabb over T.O. do so for racial reasons? T.O. has earned his reputation the hard way, and now he cries racism when he’s made to pay the price for it. Do I think he’s a racist for saying this? Not necessarily. At the very least, however, he’s being the same jerk he’s always been and trying to blame everyone else for his own self-created issues. So much for the new, more mature T.O.
    As for Ocho, I think most fans tend to view him as a likable goofball. He’s never caused any real problems in the locker room, he’s never been in trouble with the law, and he’s gone out of his way to be good to the fans and help out the less fortunate. I’m an Eagles fan, and I can’t help but like the guy, even though I normally don’t care for over the top theatrics.

  82. thepuretruth says: Sep 16, 2010 9:22 AM

    T.O. are you a racist? Are you saying that because Brett Favre is white that he was treated differently? Man poor Brett Favre, I hope we see the failed mistakes of the past and don”t discriminate against him because he is white. T.O., I always thought more of you than that… I guess I was mistaken.

  83. TheToolofTools says: Sep 16, 2010 9:25 AM

    How can you tell when T.O is talking stupid?
    His lips are moving.

  84. MarinoRules says: Sep 16, 2010 9:27 AM

    great, so we can look forward to a Txgiving game between two .500 teams?

  85. mrkoolkevin says: Sep 16, 2010 9:29 AM

    The only thing more annoying than a black person recklessly playing the race card is the stream of bitter white people who then log onto internet sites and whine about it.

  86. Simon12345 says: Sep 16, 2010 9:30 AM

    Wha? Favre has been roundly criticized!

  87. exactlyright21 says: Sep 16, 2010 9:36 AM

    I guess he could make some sense.. Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning got free passes this week for playing like garbage…

  88. FinFan68 says: Sep 16, 2010 9:36 AM

    These guys sound more like Paris & Nicole every day. Comments like those serve no purpose. T.O. is officially a race baiter.

  89. sdffa11 says: Sep 16, 2010 9:39 AM

    nothing sadder to see than a black man playing the race card.

  90. Hauschild says: Sep 16, 2010 9:39 AM

    When was the last time Owens had a 100 yard game???
    The difference between Favre and Owens is that one consistently produces year and year out – the other shows up to play about every three weeks.

  91. NationalFelonLeague.com © says: Sep 16, 2010 9:44 AM

    Year of silence in Buffalo left a lot of things bottled up. Only see him talking more and more while him and Ocho try to one up each other.

  92. bills9951 says: Sep 16, 2010 9:45 AM

    the guys that filter comments at PFT are ignorant chumps

  93. DB26 says: Sep 16, 2010 9:45 AM

    The funniest part of this is that his talking about this in public & making it an issue of race, he likely just took more teams out of the TO sweepstakes when the Bengals are finished with him. My lord, buddy us your brain for onc…. Quit thinkin of that nappy headed PR girl of yours!

  94. badmood says: Sep 16, 2010 9:47 AM

    These 2 should be worried about themselves and hoow they were absent from their week 1 game. Batman and Robin more like Dumb and Dumber!!

  95. Steve W. says: Sep 16, 2010 9:48 AM

    alewatcher says: September 16, 2010 7:56 AM
    T.O. is right about Favre getting a free pass from the media regarding his not showing up for camp. Favre was obviously not in sync with his receivers, which is why you have training camp in the first place. But, Favre gets a pass on pretty much everything because he’s Brett Favre.
    _______________________________
    While I do normally think training camp is important, the lack of connection with the receivers in this case has very little to do with it. It has nothing to do with it being Favre, or even how well he did last year. Which receivers was he supposed to get in sync with? Harvin was out the majority of training camp with serious medical issues. Rice was and is out because of a hip injury he had surgery for. The Vikings didn’t pick Camarillo up until after they got Favre back. The only two receiving options that would have been there for a large part of training camp are Shiancoe and Berrian. Berrian lost Favre’s trust when he dropped that big 1st down conversion, and he was doing fine with Shiancoe until the Saints realized that the TE was his favorite receiving option and moved extra coverage his way. So, how exactly would training camp have helped with his connection with his receivers? I can understand saying he should have been in camp because he was simply rusty, but saying training camp would have made a big difference in his connection to his receivers is simply ludicrous in this situation.

  96. Chiefs2010 says: Sep 16, 2010 9:50 AM

    TO trying to stay relevant..
    what a clown.

  97. I_luv_the_Clowns says: Sep 16, 2010 9:56 AM

    He has no problem cashing whitey’s checks.

  98. JimmySmith says: Sep 16, 2010 9:58 AM

    Favre has been given a free pass largely due to last year when he skipped training camp and then had a good season. How that relates to skin color is strictly in TO’s head.
    Problem is, last year the Vikings opened up at Cleveland so the need to perform wasn’t as important. This year vs the Saints, it was important but somehow that importance never concerned BrINT, because it’s BrINT’s world and the rest of the Vikings are just living in it.
    Let’s see how he does in the 2nd week, if BrINT starts spraying INT’s all over the field, even the Viking fans will be complaining about their Lord & Savior.

  99. TheGuyWhoToldTimTebowToShutTheFup says: Sep 16, 2010 10:02 AM

    Couldn’t agree with him more. Except for the skin color thing. Favre just had more demand for his services which gave him a lot more leverage. So he did what he wanted and got away with it. You didn’t have that pleasure T.O.

  100. In1Ear&OutYourMother says: Sep 16, 2010 10:06 AM

    Favre’s White??
    What was that whole “Pants on the Ground” thing? White people aren’t suppose to drop lyrics like that!
    He doesn’t get a pass, but if he did, it’s because of his ability. Maybe it his race that makes him a great QB. It’s just like saying that being black makes you a better RB, TE, WR, DL, car thief, LB and DB
    People need to stop being so racially sensitive. Learn to laugh at yourself and others!!

  101. Chapnasty. says: Sep 16, 2010 10:07 AM

    @ mrkoolkevin
    God it is irritating when black people throw around the race card!

  102. BFR12 says: Sep 16, 2010 10:07 AM

    Race has nothing to do with it, bur Favre is the most over rated QB in history.

  103. Drat says: Sep 16, 2010 10:16 AM

    When TO misses camp or “voluntary” events and if he drops passes, and drops passes, and drops passes, then guess what?, we just don’t care any more. He’s become a mediocre player. The diva routine brought him attention for awhile. But when was the last time TO did anything on the field? We just don’t give a crap about the silly girl anymore. TO, work on your nails and hair, but don’t talk football. You are no longer a football player.
    Favre — hell yes he gets a reprieve. He took the Vikings to the NFC championship on his own shoulders. TO: shut the flork up.

  104. MrHumble says: Sep 16, 2010 10:16 AM

    T.O. just can’t accept the fact that he is no longer a headline maker based on his skills and accomplishments and needs to resort to chit like this in order to make the headlines……what a sorry azz. I got sick of the freakin’ “race card” when OJ was acquited, LOL

  105. Canned Gravy says: Sep 16, 2010 10:19 AM

    Steve W. says:
    September 16, 2010 9:20 AM
    @ Topher
    Along the way, Favre has pretty much gone out of his way to avoid the media. During the whole ordeal, he gave one real interview, and that was to a local newspaper reporter.
    ___________________________________
    So him (not his agent) calling a press conference the day of the Super Bowl this past year to say he’s retiring..or not, is avoiding the media? Then having Chris Mortenson and/or Peter King on the line every other day throughout the whole “ordeal” over the last 4 months is avoiding the media? This guy’s entire MO is baiting the media. You think those Sears commercials are just on a whim…? You’re completely delusional. This guy called a press conference in his 3rd last year in GB at his MISS Charity Golf outing…when everyone got there, he punked out the media about the arrival of so many reporters, as they thought he may bring up his last year or two in the league…and has been a diva media whore queen since. Go to any site anywhere the chronologically covers the Favre saga and get some enlightenment, because you are truly in the dark.
    What cave are you living in that gets the internet…?

  106. WhoDeySood5 says: Sep 16, 2010 10:23 AM

    Favre should get a pass, he used to be an alcoholic starting QB addicted to pain pills, and then won a super bowl riding Reggie White’s coat tails….oh and all his records are nothing more than avg #’s put up by a guy who’s simply played more games (consecutively) than anyone else ever….ever. Favre sucks, but T.O. was wrong for the race comment, grown up

  107. FinFan68 says: Sep 16, 2010 10:28 AM

    Topher says:
    September 16, 2010 7:36 AM
    There is about to be a load of people calling TO a racist in these comments and the not-so-subtle racism will be rampant (it always is) before that all begins I want to state:
    TO has said something many of us are thinking but wouldn’t dare say out loud. Favre gets special treatment and always has. Its hard not to wonder if its because he’s white.
    Maybe its just because he’s attractive and charismatic…. but does that make it any better?
    People are going to say its because he’s earned it. But honestly, what has he done? He has as many Super Bowl wins as Eli Manning.
    ———————–
    How can you criticize potential racist comments in the middle of your own racist comment? You are a moron and you need to stop applying race to everything. “Its hard not to wonder if its because he’s white.” Wow. If this article was about a player getting in a fight at a strip club and someone said “It’s hard not to wonder if its because he’s black.” you would lose your damn mind. Favre has not been given a pass by anyone but the Vikings and some of their fans…and he was blasted several times before, during and after the game. Because you think race plays a part in everything, if you want to find someone to cry “racist” at, just find the closest mirror and save the rest of us from having to read through your drivel hoping to actually find a valid point.

  108. BrianMD says: Sep 16, 2010 10:29 AM

    Ha!
    I am white and think Favre is the biggest D-bag primadona on the planet.
    The media has been all over Favre, I have no idea what “media” these guys listen to.
    Race-baiting at it’s best is just racism in disguise.

  109. seals says: Sep 16, 2010 10:32 AM

    How long have I been asleep? I just woke up and I think we are getting opinions and thoughts from TO and then printing them. Wow,,,,,,,NFL is TMZ now.
    Florio is holding his giant cup and sucking at the straw all day long.

  110. Hugh Jorgan says: Sep 16, 2010 10:32 AM

    Bzilla says:
    Really?? Favre has a history of being a great teammate(say most)….YOU? Ask the Eagles fans! lol. Favre is a soon to be 41 year old future H.O.F…….YOU? Not so much! Favre plays the most important position on the field…YOU? Not so much! Has Favre fathered five kids with five different mothers then basically abandoned them??? Skin color or a$$hole factor? I vote a$$hole factor!!!!!!!
    ==========================
    Wow…what a rant.
    Deanna Favre, is that you??

  111. wildfan says: Sep 16, 2010 10:33 AM

    Florio, is there any reason you won’t put my posts up? The last three I have submitted have never shown up.

  112. Gunny D says: Sep 16, 2010 10:34 AM

    T.O. may get criticized disproportionately because he’s a total JERK…and has been throughout his career. Couldn’t get along in San Francisco, Couldn’t get along in Dallas, Philly, Buffalo,….and now…..he’s making it racial??? Give me a BREAK Owens…..your MOUTH is your own worst enemy.

  113. Jville808 says: Sep 16, 2010 10:35 AM

    ….and out comes the race card. Good job T.O., when all else fails just pull out the trusty race card. 60% of the time, it works every time.

  114. Nosredna says: Sep 16, 2010 10:37 AM

    When T.O can get multiple teams to want his services, when he doesn’t need someone else to beg on his behalf for a job, when he can sign a contract for multiple years, he can talk. Until (and if) all those things happen, he needs to STFU!!!

  115. paul says: Sep 16, 2010 10:38 AM

    Favre didn’t get criticism? That’s all he got.
    BFR – since his days with the Packers I thought he was a bit over rated but what he did last year with Minnesota (except for one STUPID pass) could not have been done with Rosenfels or Jackson at QB. Ain’t no way, Ain’t now how.
    41 years old, I don’t think he needs the full camp. He may not repeat last year’s performance but he is still better than anyone else they have and he is still a top 10-12 QB.

  116. tommy jonq says: Sep 16, 2010 10:39 AM

    how many of us remember that playoff game against the 49ers when t.o. dropped four favre passes and lost a fumble? how many of us are still snickering about it?

  117. Winninugly says: Sep 16, 2010 10:39 AM

    Bengals continue to screw up !

  118. Topher says: Sep 16, 2010 10:40 AM

    @ Steve W. Well said. I don’t really disagree with anything you said. I will note that Favre has been given this leniency even before he became a star.
    @Mr.KoolKevin… I couldn’t agree more.

  119. GW says: Sep 16, 2010 10:42 AM

    Why is it everytime an athlete of color makes a comment regarding race, he is playing the race card?
    Rather than say he is trying to start trouble, look at the claim he makes. It is absolutely true. Favre’s greatness is based more on longevity and hyperbole than actual greatness. If Matt Cassel plays for 20 years he will have great stats and some nice highlights as well.
    TO is such a cancer, but what have the Eagles, 49ers, and Cowboys done since he has departed? Favre upstaged his coach several times last season but TO gets flack because the media likes to talk to him.

  120. rk says: Sep 16, 2010 10:44 AM

    This is the same T.O. that “Ren” shut down twice last year? I see, just checking

  121. BernieMac says: Sep 16, 2010 10:44 AM

    T.O. we all know by this point that you would rather be white, but its not going to happen! You are black and it doesnt matter to most people but since you continue to point it out people will probably treat you different because you feel the need to make a point out of it even when it is not an issue. Its not because Farve is white its because he has rings and stats to back up his legacy. You arent that good even robin makes you look bad. I think you are the sidekick. you should be robin not 85. P.S. you should probably start catching the ball before you talk anymore about how others play!

  122. rbais2 says: Sep 16, 2010 10:45 AM

    This is the first year that I have ever heard T.O. use the race card. Trust me!
    If Charles Barkley used the race card everyone would listen because his flaws are covered by his humor and the PTI guys would protect him because he’s their boy and PTI fans would be okay with it because they “relate” to the hosts no matter how wrong or inaccurate they can be.
    But, let me just say one thing: I just love how white people try to dismiss the race card when they don’t know what difficulties a minority goes through. They do this when minorities are not treated fairly and have to do things twice as much in order to be treated fairly while they can get away with being flawed.

  123. Gunny D says: Sep 16, 2010 10:45 AM

    Hey Wildfan, my posts don’t get on there either….it could be because I pointed out that Florio is a pencil necked geek who never played a contact sport in his life. Hey Florio, Chess doesn’t count!

  124. tig 0 bitties says: Sep 16, 2010 10:48 AM

    Lets pull out the race card again.
    Its a color thing…… of course it is. whatever you say TO. please

  125. That's Mr Rodgers to you says: Sep 16, 2010 10:50 AM

    Britny gets a pass because he generates INCOME!
    That is the reason Green bay tolerated his B.S for so long.
    That is the reason Minnesota was so desperate for his return.
    That is the reason Roger Goodell kisses his ass!
    That is the reason the media sucks up to him.
    That is the reason Mike Florio posts so many articles on this croc wearing diva.
    It’s all about the money Britny generates not the color of the mans skin!
    So STFU Terrell!

  126. rbais2 says: Sep 16, 2010 10:56 AM

    I love how all the white colored comment posters dismiss the race card when they have never been singled out for their race!

  127. Phenom says: Sep 16, 2010 10:56 AM

    I’m actually a fan of TO (one of the few) but he definitely went over the line this time saying that Favre’s getting a free pass from the media because of race. I don’t believe race has anything to do with it. Maybe at one point, TO will learn to keep his mouth shot (who am I kidding).

  128. sportsbruh3 says: Sep 16, 2010 11:03 AM

    T.O. speaks and white people go in a frenzy.
    He spoke truth.

  129. Kirk says: Sep 16, 2010 11:09 AM

    aw man i cannttttt wait for thanksgiving,
    I Wish this kind of trash talking existed every week. Def makes the game more interesting whether u love TO or Hate him

  130. rbais2 says: Sep 16, 2010 11:11 AM

    Actually, one could say that it is more political because “media friendly” quarterbacks that don’t stink on the field can get away with stuff.
    Boomer Esaison is no Hall of Famer and he could say anything he wants and get away with it. Donovan McNabb is not treated harshly today or criticized for putting himself in a situations where he never looked like a team player. The media acts like their flaws never existed while they are still archived on the internet and available to expose them.
    Brett Favre denied that he wanted Randy Moss during the Spring of 2007 and everyone passed it off as the truth. Owens compliments Favre playing through pain by agreeing with Michael Irvin saying that with Favre the Eagles would be 7-0 and he gets treated like a rapist!!!
    Ben Roethlisberger gets accused of rape by a Harrah’s casino worker in Tahoe and ESPN doesn’t acknowledge it for two days. What happened when Michael Irvin and Warren Sapp got accused???? Oh … I know. The news ticker line exploded to the point where it looked they actually did commit rape or sexual assault!!!
    Terrell, keep this talk going!!!

  131. That's Mr Rodgers to you says: Sep 16, 2010 11:12 AM

    rbais2 says:
    September 16, 2010 10:56 AM
    I love how all the white colored comment posters dismiss the race card when they have never been singled out for their race!
    ……………………………………………………………………………….
    I believe the white colored posters were just singled out for their race by you rbias! Weird eh?

  132. pftfanboy says: Sep 16, 2010 11:14 AM

    ali greene -
    you may have missed some of the headlines the last few years – like chad johnson punching his coach at halftime?
    or maybe T.O and his professional repoire with his QB’s – going back to Garcia and then Dmac. He may have been suspended for being a fantastic team mate.
    good times.

  133. skolvikings says: Sep 16, 2010 11:16 AM

    He spoke truth? If these two were Hall Of Famers then I would understand their argument…but, they are not! Favre is one of the top 10 best QB’s that ever played and a sure Hall Of Famer…Keep playing the race card, seems that is what the world is about…who owes me??? I know this much, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice…would all get away with it just like Favre!

  134. kev86 says: Sep 16, 2010 11:19 AM

    Giants fan here that will always think of TO crying. Great football moment that will last forever.

  135. P-Town Stripes says: Sep 16, 2010 11:26 AM

    I’m Black and a Bengals fan. I agree that Favre gets the “career achievement” pass, but I hate to see race thrown into it because it takes away from real race issues. The funny thing is that I read people talking about how great Favre’s career is compared to T.O.’s. Checked the numbers? T.O. has had a pretty good run that will hit Canton, whether you like him or not.
    Crazy Nick, 40 years of blowhards? I think you’re focused on this decade. Who before then?

  136. ejtowne says: Sep 16, 2010 11:27 AM

    It has NOTHING to do about skin color! C’mon T.O.! All i have done was stick up for you and tell everybody how you have changed. Now i look like an idiot. Looks as if you just took a break from your antics, because you are right back on that horse. I give up. Go ahead, give it to him, give him what he deserves. A-s.

  137. thirdandgoal says: Sep 16, 2010 11:33 AM

    Again, I say, how incredible is it that anyone (in this case, the sage T.O.) could claim that there hasn’t been enough attention paid to Favre and his antics? His training camp absence covered ad-nausem and a national sports landscape with a full-blown case of Favre Fatigue, it is absurd to suggest more attention (what, if Favre was black?) could have been put forth. Turn the page of your script, T.O. and move on.

  138. foofeiter says: Sep 16, 2010 11:47 AM

    Why did I read this article? I am dumber for wasting my time.
    Nothing to see here, move on.

  139. 2ndary Insanity says: Sep 16, 2010 11:52 AM

    “THUD…” There went the last little bit of respect I had for T. Owens. C’mon, man! Did you really just whip out the tired old race card?? Favre SHOULD have been required to attend training camp…even at his advanced age, he could participate in a limited fashion. I don’t think any 1 player should be above the team. It’s obvious to anyone who watched the Vikings’ game vs the Saints that Favre’s poor showing was a huge reason his team lost. It stands to reason Favre’s performance would’ve been better had he actually practiced more with his teammates. Too many media members give Favre a pass…but it’s because they’ve always kissed his ass. T.O. will NEVER get the Favre treatment because of his extensive history… 1) 49er’s: he called Jeff Garcia a racial slur and screamed @ his coaches on the sidelines 2) the Eagles fiasco 3) the crap he pulled with the Cowboys. After all this, T.O. could crap out 24 karat gold footballs and still not get any love

  140. FoF says: Sep 16, 2010 11:54 AM

    While we have everybody here, I just wanted to get the Ted Thompson fans take on Erin Rodgers playing GM: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/15/aaron-rodgers-on-marshawn-lynch-bring-him-on/#comments

  141. rbais2 says: Sep 16, 2010 11:56 AM

    @That’s Mr Rodgers to you
    Hey Bro!
    Sorry if I offended you. The multiple posts were put in places because I thought every early post was considered too controversial.
    I actually do think that the race card is used to a degree, but we can most definitely say it is political.

  142. Hollywood26 says: Sep 16, 2010 12:05 PM

    I personally think TO is an azzclown.
    Having said that though, I do feel Favre has been treated way differently. I don’t know if it’s race, or being a QB, or being old but his media pass is much nicer than others.
    The fact is going back to last year we have a QB who has consistently ignored his coach, to little public outcry. It was mentioned briefly and people said “good. He knows the system better than the coach who gets paid to call plays” Sort of a double standard, no? Another QB doing that would be called disrespectful to the game, a diva and everything else. It would be a huge story. That’s part of the difference I’m seeing with Favre.

  143. Deb says: Sep 16, 2010 12:35 PM

    @Topher and Jag4Life …
    Not a fan of any team ever associated with Favre or T.O. Enjoy watching both play. Find both very attractive. But I’m a fan of Favre and dislike T.O., and that has nothing to do with race or Super Bowl rings.
    The quality I admire most in anyone is courage–the ability to get knocked down (literally or figuratively) and keep fighting. Favre is the NFL personification of that. No matter how annoying his off-season waffling, as soon as he walks on the field, he’s the Iron Man who’s played through personal injury, family illness and death, age, etc. People can say what they want about money, but he’s has a pretty simple life in Hattiesburg. He seems to play for love of game and teammates. I respect that–and it’s a joy to watch.
    I despise selfishness. My first image of T.O. was as the 49er who disrespected the Cowboys’ logo. Hate the Cowboys, but that was an embarrassing display by a guy promoting himself over his teammates. McNabb welcomed him to Philly, and T.O. stabbed him in the back to promote himself. Jones gave him a chance, and he again put his own mouth and interests ahead of the team. Now he’s attacking other NFL players for what? Self-promotion. Same old song: Get attention for himself at someone else’s expense. There’s nothing admirable in that.

  144. bono-zoffa says: Sep 16, 2010 12:57 PM

    Seeing TO came up w/ such a catchy name for Revis and Cromartie, he should come up w/ a new name for his his fellow WR and teammate, Ochocinco. Because as nobody is reporting (at least not until Thanksgiving when they play again), it was Ochocinco who said that if he were shut out by Revis in the last game of the season, he’d change his name. Well, after getting shut out, what happened? Nothing. Which matches what Ochocinco did that game.

  145. mgp says: Sep 16, 2010 1:02 PM

    Although I agree with Terrel (I refuse to call him by his self annointed nickmane) that Favre is getting a free pass for missing training camp and that Terrel and Ochocinco would have been practically vilified if they had missed camp and made the mistakes that Favre did, I still think Terrel is an ass. His claim that it is a racial issue is BS…
    Remember, Terrel, YOU are judged on the content of your character, not the color of your skin. Sound familiar?

  146. Dewey Axewoond says: Sep 16, 2010 1:24 PM

    I think T.O. must be mad at Favre because he in some ways resembles T.O.’s own absentee father.
    Daddy issues, Me-O?
    Now, having said that, I think they’re BOTH narcissistic attention-seeking egomaniacal diva media-wh0res, and their pigmentation (or lack thereof) has absoultely nothing to with it.
    In the on-going race to see which one is the bigger “look at me” d-bag, T.O. just pulled ahead.

  147. Allied Biscuit says: Sep 16, 2010 1:37 PM

    i officially have zero respect for Owens. any of these whiny ass clowns that bring race into the picture are obviously morons.
    keep talking you moron. you’ll get what’s coming to you.

  148. phillyfinsfan says: Sep 16, 2010 2:05 PM

    My four year old says more intelligent things than T.O.

  149. The Filth says: Sep 16, 2010 2:25 PM

    TO is usually right, he just says things that its better not to say. This is a racial issue, its just that no one is really going to get that, or agree with it. Favre won’t be perceived as lazy or as disruptive as a black quarterback would and that’s just the way it is.

  150. BrokenBallz says: Sep 16, 2010 3:12 PM

    Tsk tsk tsk……it’s all come down to this (LOL)
    Odd though, neither Cromartie or Revis look like a house cat or a wigged-out chihuahua, though they sure played like them last Sunday.
    “Stimpson, you EEEEdiot!”

  151. CincyAllDaWay says: Sep 16, 2010 3:31 PM

    Owens also applied a nickname to Jets cornerbacks Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie based on their performance on Monday night: Ren and Stimpy.
    ==================================
    BWAAHHAHHAAHHAHHAAHHAAHHAA
    that’s funny stuff right there. Does TO know how to push your buttons or what??

  152. benjaminbreeg says: Sep 16, 2010 3:52 PM

    Has T.O. EVER been so lucid? The comments about Farve are right on. I’ve got nothing against Farve, but the press does give him a pass on issues they would rip into any other player about.

  153. That's Mr Rodgers to you says: Sep 16, 2010 5:33 PM

    rbais2 says:
    September 16, 2010 11:56 AM
    @That’s Mr Rodgers to you
    Hey Bro!
    Sorry if I offended you. The multiple posts were put in places because I thought every early post was considered too controversial.
    I actually do think that the race card is used to a degree, but we can most definitely say it is political.
    ……………………………………………………………………………
    I took no offense rbias2. We all live in a system that we can both probably agree is set up to divide us. If we ever get our shit together and put our own biases aside the folks responsible for creating that division will find they are in way over their heads! I can only hope we find ourselves their some day! As this is a site about football and not politics I’m going to bite my proverbial tongue here now but I trust you understand.
    Again no offense taken
    Peace!

  154. scorpiodsu says: Sep 16, 2010 5:52 PM

    I don’t like the race stuff being thrown out there but I do think racism to a certain extent does exist and will always exist. It’s unfortunate and I think a lot of times I don’t think it’s on purpose. But in this league, black QBs seems to always be on a shorter lease and they are always placed with more question marks than white QB. Now, I don’t necessarily think people do this on purpose because they are black. I think it’s an unconscious thing in many cases. And I live in Philly and it’s not surprising that many of the “brothers” who wanted to keep McNabb are now happy that Kolb is hurt and are fully supporting Vick as the QB. And I think part of it has to do with Vick being black. Truthfully, a lot of people wouldn’t want a black QB leading their team. And it’s because it’s the way some have been programmed. It’s unfortunate, but some white players can do somethings and not get as much attention if a black player did it and he’d be labeled as a thug.

  155. sean6886 says: Sep 16, 2010 7:51 PM

    Hey TO, based on the Bengals performance against the Pats last Sunday, you should do a lot less talking and a lot more practicing. For all the talk about the Bengals possibly going to the SB, you sure didn’t look like it going up against one of the teams everyone has to go through to get there.

  156. marcus_allen says: Sep 16, 2010 8:11 PM

    @DB26, hmmm. . . so you feel that in a league where most of the players are black Americans, where all of the owners and a majority of the coaches and management are white Americans, that more inclusion in the coaching, management and ownership shouldn’t be mandatory, when the product is the player?
    So TO is racist for pointing out that it appears the media has a double standard for a white American athlete not being a team player, than a black American athlete? Hmmm, okay, I get it, you could care less about how historically black Americans getting the same type of opportunities didn’t exist, and I get that most of you will never see racism in being treated differently as you all have varying reasons why TO is attacked and Farve is cajoled, for basically the same narcissistic behavior. (Project much for excuses, people??)
    Even if his opinion is wrong, and there is no overt or covert racism in handling of black athletes and white ones, to tear the man down for his opinion makes it seem as if there is no racism in the US anymore and we are all free to sing cum bye ya until the end times.

  157. CaptainMarvel says: Sep 16, 2010 11:05 PM

    T.O. is an idiot.

  158. DonnyBoy says: Sep 16, 2010 11:32 PM

    TO is a punk and a loser.
    Always has been, and I’d bet, always will be.
    What have you EVER won TO?
    You’re too much of a bitch to know how to win.
    But you found a home in Cinci – if it wasn’t already the soap opera of the league, it certainly is now.

  159. Boobyclark75 says: Sep 17, 2010 12:22 AM

    Really? all this and no one in the Nedia will ever ask Favre about the texted cock photo’s he sent?
    It can be about anything as far as i am concerned. Cocks, color, or a wrangler sponsorship. Favre is a douche, TO is a knob, and Florio gets paid everytime a dumbass says something

  160. Ridge_Runner says: Sep 17, 2010 1:18 AM

    I have no idea how anyone with an IQ larger than their shoe size can take any allegations of racism seriously anymore. The word “racist” is simply the new buzzword used to describe “someone I am deathly jealous of”. The only real racists that exist anymore are those who sling this moniker around when they don’t get what they want. The world would be much better off if the likes of T.O. and all other race-baiting assholes went and hung themselves in a closet someplace.

  161. Dewey Axewoond says: Sep 17, 2010 1:18 PM

    marcus_allen says:
    September 16, 2010 8:11 PM
    @DB26, hmmm. . . so you feel that in a league where most of the players are black Americans, where all of the owners and a majority of the coaches and management are white Americans, that more inclusion in the coaching, management and ownership shouldn’t be mandatory, when the product is the player?
    So TO is racist for pointing out that it appears the media has a double standard for a white American athlete not being a team player, than a black American athlete? Hmmm, okay, I get it, you could care less about how historically black Americans getting the same type of opportunities didn’t exist, and I get that most of you will never see racism in being treated differently as you all have varying reasons why TO is attacked and Farve is cajoled, for basically the same narcissistic behavior. (Project much for excuses, people??)
    Even if his opinion is wrong, and there is no overt or covert racism in handling of black athletes and white ones, to tear the man down for his opinion makes it seem as if there is no racism in the US anymore and we are all free to sing cum bye ya until the end times.
    _______________________________
    The correct spelling for that song is “cumbaya” or sometimes “kumbaya”.
    Of course, I’m just being a racist by pointing out your poor spelling and ignorance, especially when the reality is, you probably didn’t have the same opportunities as everyone else.
    Aww, poor wittle victim.
    Just hang in there–the country’s going from “equal opportunity” to “equal outcome” faster than you can say “spread the wealth”, so you’ll be “movin’ on up” in no time.

  162. marcus_allen says: Sep 17, 2010 2:30 PM

    Hey Dewey, you are bit late, and off point, but sure, join the TO, Ochocinco and Farve party . . . and I see you are articulate enough to understand my poor wittle mispelling . . . good for you Dewey . . .
    So you did point out the one mispelled word in my three paragraphs (about how I feel TO has a right to voice his opinion, whether it be right or wrong) . . . however, you claim there is an ignorance factor to pointing this out? Wow, dude, regale me on how that’s ignorant . . . Then you go all in on my reality (like you know me or my point of view – but hell you have a right to your opinion about me, even if its wrong). My man . . . I’m a veteran of the armed forces, an attorney in the Bay, former college athlete, make over 100k, am a homeowner, worked for congress and with judiciary, but the point I’m making and that you missed is that there is racism in the media’s handling of black athletes versus white ones, and I’m sorry you don’t agree (you don’t have to agree), but really those that like to think there isn’t still racism in this country, haven’t experienced it. And thanks for the “movin’ on up” (wow you watched the Jeffersons, good for you) reference . . . I’m sure you still feel that your snide pun is not racially motivated, just cute and cutting edge, since you show a level of familiarity with slang.

  163. Deb says: Sep 17, 2010 5:13 PM

    @marcus_allen …
    I don’t agree with T.O. on Favre, but those who believe racism plays no role in how Americans view athletes or in our society as a whole aren’t paying attention, wear blinders, or are part of the problem. But don’t mind Dewey. He managed to summarize my views on Ines Sainz into the brilliant observation that we share a “vag.”

  164. 27Rice says: Sep 17, 2010 6:09 PM

    TO is right! (oh, I’m white by the way.)
    What’s funny to me is that NO ONE…NO ONE criticized Favre for being at that high school throwing passes to a Varsity team while the Vikes were conducting their training camp at the same time.
    Hey Favre, YOU ARE UNDER CONTRACT TO THE VIKINGS………NOT TO SOME HIGH SCHOOL IN HATTIESBURG!!!
    He DID get a pass….and continues to do so!
    If he can be down at the high school, then he damn sure can be at training camp tossing passes to his receivers! It’s absolutely ridiculous.
    I don’t agree with TO often, but this time he is 100% dead on!!

  165. Myroncope7 says: Sep 17, 2010 8:35 PM

    Of course T.O. is right. There is definitely a racial bias in the media and by the fans as well.
    Look at the list of most hated athletes, why are ALL of them black? Why is Kobe still hated for his rape allegation almost 10 years ago and Ben Roethlisberger is not hated for 2 in one year?
    Because Americans (white americans) are quick to forgive their own. Why is Tiger hated for doing something that most married couples in america do? (cheat). Tiger is hated because the women were white and most white men dont like Black men with white women. In fact they hate it.
    Come on and post all the lies and bs about “I have a lot of black friends” etc. The one thing you can count on white people lying about is race. My buddies do that crap all the time. They talk racist crap behing a mexican or a black guys back and I call em on it when the minority is present, then they lie like a rug about it. Why do you think the good ole boys wore hoods? To conceal their identity.

  166. gdeli says: Sep 17, 2010 9:45 PM

    A qb of his rep(black or white) should get the same. It has hurt the vikes and I hope farve can catch up. Like many have said our schedule is tougher from the get go this year. The lions are better too. Revis and cromatie weren’t ready. No surprise for revis. The ren and stimpy comments are coming from a guy calling himself batman. ha

  167. Ridge_Runner says: Sep 17, 2010 11:39 PM

    Myroncope7 says:
    Because Americans (white americans) are quick to forgive their own.
    Get off your high horse, hypocrite. I suggest you take a look at any thread concerning Mike “Dawgkilla” Vick and see how many blacks are “quick to forgive their own.” Some of you lot defend that sociopathic prick ad nauseum like he was your own flesh and blood (then again, maybe he is, with the rate of absentee fathers in the black community and all). The truth is if he were white, you lot would be screaming to have him removed from the league.
    People that live in glass houses shouldn’t throw cinder blocks. Get a life, you race-baiting moron.

  168. saints_are sinners_and_winners says: Sep 18, 2010 7:48 AM

    @Mr Rodgers, marcus_allen, Deb
    Incredibly well thought out and articulated.
    My racist rant: We as a society have vilified Black people for over 400 years and now we are desensitized to it. We’ve been programmed and don’t realize it. Check out this site it really opened my eyes to the cumulative effects and uses of imagery in the subliminal propagation of racism.
    Back to Football: TO kind of reminds me of the guy who knows that something stinks but doesn’t quite know what it is. “How can this old a** white guy be more of a diva than me? It’s gotta be the shoes…” lol. Anyway I don’t think in this particular case racism has a lot to do with it.
    We can all talk smack but when it comes to football we know who the champs are right? WHO DAT!!!!!

  169. saints_are sinners_and_winners says: Sep 18, 2010 7:51 AM

    @Mr Rodgers, marcus_allen, Deb
    Incredibly well thought out and articulated.
    My racist rant: We as a society have vilified Black people for over 400 years and now we are desensitized to it. We’ve been programmed and don’t realize it. Check out this site it really opened my eyes to the cumulative effects and uses of imagery in the subliminal propagation of racism.
    Back to Football: TO kind of reminds me of the guy who knows that something stinks but doesn’t quite know what it is. “How can this old a** white guy be more of a diva than me? It’s gotta be the shoes…” lol. Anyway I don’t think in this particular case racism has a lot to do with it.
    We can all talk smack but when it comes to football we know who the champs are right? WHO DAT!!!!!

  170. Deb says: Sep 18, 2010 11:50 AM

    @Ridge_Runner …
    Any point you might have been trying to make about Michael Vick was lost the second you posted “(then again, maybe he is, with the rate of absentee fathers in the black community and all).” You’re going to have to work on the beam in your eye before you can pick at the splinters in anyone else’s.
    @Myroncope7 …
    Unifan, has it ever occurred to you that the problem is with the company you keep? My caucasian friends do not make those kinds of comments when black, Latino, and Asian friends are not around. It just does not happen. Sometimes people will say things no matter who’s around that indicate more subtle forms of racism–preconceived ideas about race and crime, poverty, welfare, gang violence, etc. But they’re parroting media images. If you approach it with the right attitude, those can be teachable moments. Sometimes school and work–or even family associations–force us to be with people whose morals we disapprove. But if you have a choice, maybe you need to distance yourselves from those toxic individuals.
    @saints_are sinners …
    Thanks for the link. Looks like an excellent research resource.

  171. capt_obvious says: Sep 18, 2010 2:41 PM

    Have it or Love it; TO is right. Brett Farve can do what he wants. He finds a way to skip camp every year and nothing is done. I like Farve but to say he is one of the best QB’s of all time is ridiculous. I like the guy but he is a CHOKE artist. If it weren’t for Reggie White I don’t think he would have a ring. The reason his stats are as good as they are is because he been around so long.

  172. Myroncope7 says: Sep 19, 2010 6:10 AM

    Ridge_Runner says:
    September 17, 2010 11:39 PM
    Myroncope7 says:
    Because Americans (white americans) are quick to forgive their own.
    Get off your high horse, hypocrite. I suggest you take a look at any thread concerning Mike “Dawgkilla” Vick and see how many blacks are “quick to forgive their own.” Some of you lot defend that sociopathic prick ad nauseum like he was your own flesh and blood (then again, maybe he is, with the rate of absentee fathers in the black community and all). The truth is if he were white, you lot would be screaming to have him removed from the league.
    People that live in glass houses shouldn’t throw cinder blocks. Get a life, you race-baiting moron.
    I take it you dont know who Myroncope is? lol
    There is no black guy in America who would choose him for a persona. No sir, I am absolutely white and just because I agree with a black guy doesnt quantify me as being black.
    You mentioned Vick. A lot of black people dont view dogs in the same light as white americans do, thats why they accept Vick back. If it was Peyton Manning I truly believe they would have the same “so what” attitude.
    You seem to be really upset and this is how most of white america is in regards to race. Someone said ‘Its the company you keep”. I am a season ticket holder at Heinz. Is it the comapany I keep when I am in Heinz Field and the fans around me are calling for Cowher back and slinging racial slurs at Mike Tomlin? Its true. Its ok to criticize him but why the racial slurs?
    Racial bias on the part of black folks, even the most vicious and unhinged bigotry on their part, is pretty impotent. King Samir Shabazz hates white people and thinks “cracker babies” should be killed. And yet what kind of power does Shabazz have? None. He is in a position to kill no one, and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever. That’s not power. Power is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives. And there are virtually no black folks–and certainly no black folks wearing berets, fake-ass military uniforms and carrying nightsticks–who can do any of that. But there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them with or without bigoted intent regularly,

  173. va4favre says: Sep 19, 2010 8:49 AM

    I was going to pass commenting but some of the comments are so stupid. I can’t believe what capt_obvious said that about Favre and the SB! Did he watch the game, or all of the regular season games? Favre should have been the MVP of that game.
    The comments about Favre and training camp are difficult since there is truth on both sides. In defense of Favre, being a starting QB at 40 is new territory. Yes, it would have been better if Favre were there, but the Vikings would pay for it later in the season. I actually think Favre would have retired if his teammates had not gone there to bring him back. If the Vikings did not want to wait, then they should have traded or drafted for a QB.
    Favre played with mediocre talent most of his years in GB except for the 3 last years of the Holmgren era. He will be more fully appreciated when he retires.

  174. Sixburgh says: Sep 19, 2010 9:03 PM

    What a shock, a locker room cancer/racist/homophobic/narssacistic has been drops the race card to deflect from his own poor play, then every apologist/racist gets on here and defends him.
    Is it just me or is anyone else tired of the idea that only white people are racist? If ANY white player were to make similar comments about a RB/DB/WR, then you know Reggie and Al would be ALL over it!
    Let’s look at some history:
    1. In SF, he publically berated his QB, intimating he might be gay.
    2. In Philly, after being recruited by Donovan, he immediately stabbs him in the back because he “felt” offended the team said they got to the SB as a team, not because of just one player. Then proceeded to become a bigger horses a$$ with his inpromtu interviews while working out in his driveway.
    3. Goes to Dallas, and eventhough the owner and the QB defend him endlessly, he stabbs them in the back too.
    4. Goes to Buffalo and is mostly ineffective/quiet because, well, it’s Buffalo! But I do believe there was a comment or two about the lack of “clubs” or social life there.
    Someone brought up Roethlisberger. He’s never been charged, let alone convicted. He might be a dirtbag, but based on what I read from the witness statements on the GA incident, even her friends admitted the girl was all over him so she could get drinks and be with someone famous. Sounds more to me like buyers remorse. Maybe he’s not as big as he says he is or as gifted.
    As for Favre, he’s been hammered, not only by sports media, but in the mainstreem media, SNL, commercials, etc. He’s 40. He can’t take the beating of training camp and his coaches recognized/agreed to it. So did his teammates. He’s certainly not the only aging football star to be given a free pass on training camp. There have been many.
    But I digress. Back to my original point. Racism knows no color boundry – teaching your kids that everytime something doesn’t go your way it’s whitey holding you down is just a racist as anything David Duke says…

  175. The Hogster says: Sep 20, 2010 11:21 AM

    He’s right. Not only has Brett Madonna given the finger to the concept of “team” the last few years, he squeezed more money out of the Vikings to boot.
    Classic white guy pass…what else is new.

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