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Dolphins waiting for Brian Hartline to step up

Brandon Marshall’s debut in Miami went rather well.

He caught eight passes for 53 yards and made a few nice plays after the catch.  The numbers would have looked a lot better if Chad Henne hadn’t underthrown a deep ball when Marshall had clearly beaten the Bills secondary.  Marshall came back for the throw and dropped it in traffic.

Marshall’s presence should open things up for the other Dolphins receivers, but so far fellow starter Brian Hartline isn’t taking advantage.  He had a poor preseason and struggled to get separation last Sunday and didn’t catch any of the three targets sent his way.

“There’s some opportunities there for him so Brian is going to have to
make the most of those opportunities,” coach Tony Sparano said. “Now what I liked
about what Brian did a year ago and there’s good evidence
there is he makes some hard catches and he makes some run-after catch
yards and I think that that’s really what I’d like to see.”

Ethan Skolnick of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel notes that’s as close to calling out a player as Sparano really gets.  

The Dolphins sent a message to Hartline this week in practice as well.  Davone Bess is now getting some snaps when the Dolphins practice in two receiver sets.  It wouldn’t be a surprise to see Marlon Moore get additional snaps too.

Miami made a great move to get Marshall, but the team still doesn’t have a true vertical threat.

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  1. FinFan68 says: Sep 17, 2010 12:23 PM

    Ginn as a vertical threat would have fit nicely with Marshall. Ginn did not play well and deserved the criticism he got but as a deep threat, the safeties would have to play honest and the entire offense would open up. Hartline looked OK and they were comfortable enough with him to let Camarillo go. His fame/money pressure is kicking in. He has decent talent (not great by any means) but he needs to get off his arrogant ass and do some work. Bess is the best receiver after Marshall but his skills are better suited as a slot in 3+ receiver sets. If the fins start putting him opposite Marshall it will be a tough road to hoe.

  2. hnirobert says: Sep 17, 2010 12:23 PM

    I like Hartline but I think corners can get physical with him and completely throw him off. Davone Bess is a nice slot guy but not a #2. Marlon Moore has some promise, but he’s an undrafted free agent so the chances of him doing anything are slim to none. We’ll see…

  3. jtmoney926 says: Sep 17, 2010 12:24 PM

    DOLPHINS SUCK !!! THEY ARE NOT WORK THE KEY STROKES THAT WERE HIT TO WRITE THIS ARTILCE!!!!!

  4. Tailgun says: Sep 17, 2010 12:29 PM

    Davone Bess is clearly more a slot receiver, albeit the best one the Fins have had since Welker (Or OJ McDuffie), and he should remain in that role with few exceptions.
    No, if Hartline can’t cut it you have to go with the taller, faster, lanky Moore who looked like he had a ton of upside in the preseason (enough to justify cutting 2nd round bust Patrick Turner). Moore could very well be the perfect complement to Weapon X.

  5. robert ethen says: Sep 17, 2010 12:32 PM

    They are calling him Brian Flatline these days.

  6. hnirobert says: Sep 17, 2010 12:34 PM

    It’s probably blasphemy to say this, but I think Ted Ginn could’ve been a LOT more productive with Marshall on the opposite side taking all the pressure.

  7. georgeanderson says: Sep 17, 2010 12:37 PM

    King Carl will find a #2 WR.

  8. Nate is Gay for Brady says: Sep 17, 2010 12:44 PM

    “Miami made a great move to get Marshall, but the team still doesn’t have a true vertical threat.” That’s because Chad Hiney sucks.

  9. CJ SPILLER says: Sep 17, 2010 12:46 PM

    That’s because Brian Hartline sucks……..also Marshall was shut down by one of the best defensive backfields in the NFL. Too bad the Bills have Trent Edwards at QB…….they beat Miami easily.

  10. mandarino says: Sep 17, 2010 12:48 PM

    Vincent Jackson – It would never happen I know… the picks, the money… so “I’m not sayin’… I’m just sayin’…”

  11. eastslastheart says: Sep 17, 2010 12:49 PM

    dear jtmoney926:
    your logic is flawless. keep on keepin’ on.

  12. JimmySmith says: Sep 17, 2010 12:50 PM

    If he can’t step it up this week against a weak Viking secondary, chances are he is never going to do it.

  13. TheGreat13 says: Sep 17, 2010 12:53 PM

    jtmoney926 says:
    September 17, 2010 12:24 PM
    DOLPHINS SUCK !!! THEY ARE NOT WORK THE KEY STROKES THAT WERE HIT TO WRITE THIS ARTILCE!!!!!
    ____________________________________
    Well when you go to talk crap..please learn how to spell…or run a spell check…or have your 2 year old child come over and read what you typed….YOU must be a Jests fan…

  14. georgeanderson says: Sep 17, 2010 1:01 PM

    “Vincent Jackson – It would never happen I know… the picks, the money… so “I’m not sayin’… I’m just sayin’…”
    Ireland should pull the trigger, he won’t be there next season.

  15. mandarino says: Sep 17, 2010 1:04 PM

    @Tailgun – FYI Patrick Turner was a 3rd round bust not a 2nd round bust… let’s give credit where credit is due… You may be thinking of Pat White.

  16. FinFan68 says: Sep 17, 2010 1:10 PM

    He is not the only one who needs to step up this game. Henne could use a little more accuracy on the deep ball (should have been 6 to Marshall) and the O-line better find a groove real quick or the Minny D-line will put a hurtin’ on Henne. The DBs were in a position to make some plays last week and are sure to have opportunities vs. Favre, but they need to CATCH THE DAMN BALL. Miami can win this week but they need to win the turnover battle and have a couple long time consuming TD drives. (Somebody needs to cover Camarillo or he will kill us)

  17. Spenicourt says: Sep 17, 2010 1:21 PM

    Make the RIGHT move for once!!!
    Get Vincent Jackson
    Why?
    Trade a #1 for him. What are draft picks worth to us anyways in recent history. #2 Pat White, Cut #3 Pat Turner Cut. I can go on and on.
    You end up paying a 1st round pick tons of money in hopes he becomes a player like Jackson.
    Do it.
    You would then have an ELITE WR Corps for the next 5 years. In monster Marshall and Jackson!
    You automatically become a Super Bowl contender!
    Why not pull the trigger? What is the downside? Nothing! Make a move Ireland!

  18. KILLER FIN says: Sep 17, 2010 1:31 PM

    GO GET JACKSON FROM San Diego!!! he’ll only have to sit out 1 more game & is solid pass catcher!!! GO FOR THE THROAT!!! GO FINS!!!

  19. Sharky says: Sep 17, 2010 1:39 PM

    Poor Fins. I wish they could be good again. Recent Ohio State receivers don’t seem to have a good track record in the NFL. Ginn, Hartline, and Gonzalez either can’t stay healthy or can’t produce. Santonio Holmes is the only guy who’s come through for his team and he’s currently suspended for being an idiot turd.
    How did Cam Cameron get so lucky? He wastes a frist rounder on Ginn. Wins one game. Now he’s got Boldin as a receiver.
    Oh, and Jets Fans: Go polish Fireman Ed’s bald head you drunk obnoxious adolescent neanderthals.

  20. texasPHINSfan says: Sep 17, 2010 1:48 PM

    Sad to see everyone bail on Hartline after one game. He gave us many games last year where his production helped us win games.
    The dude has earned more than a game or two to show us what he can do as the #2. How does an entire year’s worth of work (last year) get forgotten in one game?

  21. Outfoxed says: Sep 17, 2010 1:50 PM

    # jtmoney926 says: September 17, 2010 12:24 PM
    DOLPHINS SUCK !!! THEY ARE NOT WORK THE KEY STROKES THAT WERE HIT TO WRITE THIS ARTILCE!!!!!
    yes jt and the best part of you dribbled down your daddy’s leg!!!
    spell much?

  22. FinFan68 says: Sep 17, 2010 1:52 PM

    There is a huge potential downside to getting VJ. Bringing a party-boy to south beach will result in another DUI and he will be gone for an entire season…he wants way too much money and the Chargers will want too much for compensation…all this and he is only good for 12 weeks this year and the first couple he will not yet understand the system. That would give the dolphins TWO WR divas and a combo like that usually brings more trouble to the locker room than stats on the field. If he could keep his head on straight, be a team player and not demand a king’s ransom, then maybe but each of those are loooooooooong shots. Bottom line is we should have kept Ginn.

  23. hdahs143 says: Sep 17, 2010 2:08 PM

    CJ SPILLER says:
    September 17, 2010 12:46 PM
    That’s because Brian Hartline sucks……..also Marshall was shut down by one of the best defensive backfields in the NFL. Too bad the Bills have Trent Edwards at QB…….they beat Miami easily.

    Keep telling yourself that. Miami left 24 points on the field. The only thing Buffalo seems to be good at shutting down is their fanbase.

  24. finsbooyah says: Sep 17, 2010 2:17 PM

    Whoever is campaigning for Miami to go after Jackson better come back to reality. It will NEVER happen. Miami already got their #1 WR and he is much better than VJ anyway.
    Bringing in VJ would be a disaster. Also, he doesn’t solve the problem of not having a deep threat. He is basically a slightly less talented version of Marshall.
    Hartline showed tons of promise as a rookie and now everyone wants to see him benched after 1 poor game?? Huh? If he is still struggling after week 5, then we may have a problem. At least FinFan68 and texasPHINSfan have some sense.
    After the Buffalo game the 2 things that concern me the most are the O-Line failing to open up holes in the running game, and Henne constantly locking on to one receiver. These will turn out to be MAJOR problems if they aren’t corrected asap, especially when Miami is facing some great defenses (Vikings, Jets) in the coming weeks

  25. Rex Ryan=Fat Twat says: Sep 17, 2010 2:18 PM

    Id rather watch rosie o’donnell play wr for the dolphins than ted ginn. nothing makes me happier than seeing him and gibril wilson not suiting up in a dolphins jersey on sundays.

  26. KILLER FIN says: Sep 17, 2010 2:21 PM

    THAT’S WHAT NEGOTIATIONS ARE FOR!!! getting a little mone is better than not playing at all!!! what ever it takes to build a winner now!!! Management will change next year if there will even be football??? Ginn WAS A WASTE!!! GO FINS!!!

  27. gizzep13 says: Sep 17, 2010 2:30 PM

    Dear Jets, Lets take a look back @ your week 1 failures.
    1st… You lost the game.
    2nd …You lost the game @ your brand new stadium.
    3rd… You lost the game @ your brand new stadium on Mon. night.
    4th and future failure…You’re gonna be 0-2 when you come to Miami (a team you haven’t been able to beat the last three times you’ve tried.)
    Sucks to be you…

  28. overkil2 says: Sep 17, 2010 2:31 PM

    I love reading those people who want Ginn back. Did you guys forget how many drops he had? Actually, it would be easier to remember how many catches he had.
    He can’t catch the damn ball, period!

  29. OJPimpson says: Sep 17, 2010 2:32 PM

    @ cj spiller- the bills could have won easily ? Guess what ? They lost ! And they are going to lose again this weekend . Spiller couldn’t beat Miamis d because he is a loser . You are a loser. And the entire buffalo bills organization including your savior chan gailey .. Are a bunch of inbred losers ..

  30. Dolfan34 says: Sep 17, 2010 2:35 PM

    Everyone keeps talking about Marlon Moore but the guy we need to start working into the offence is Roberto Wallace. Great size, good route runner and great potential. Watch!!

  31. CJ SPILLER says: Sep 17, 2010 2:49 PM

    @hdahs143…………..Don’t know what game you were watching numb nuts. Miami couldn’t score against the Bills Def. What 24 points are you talking about? Dude, the truth is your QB is not any better than Trent Edwards and he sucks……….as far as fan base………you should shut your piehole……….The Bills are the 2nd or 3rd smallest market in the NFL and they still were 10th in attendance last year……….your team dickhead was 19th in attendance. Think before you post.

  32. RUGGERLAD says: Sep 17, 2010 2:58 PM

    I know I’m getting ahead of myself here but next years draft is loaded with big vertical threat WR’s. I also think Ginn should have been kept 1 more year to stretch secondaries and return kicks.

  33. CJ SPILLER says: Sep 17, 2010 3:13 PM

    OJPimpson says:
    September 17, 2010 2:32 PM
    @ cj spiller- the bills could have won easily ? Guess what ? They lost ! And they are going to lose again this weekend . Spiller couldn’t beat Miamis d because he is a loser . You are a loser. And the entire buffalo bills organization including your savior chan gailey .. Are a bunch of inbred losers ..
    _____________________
    You are the loser pal…………why don’t you float back to Cuba to where you came from, like most of the other Miami fans. Hell, was at the game on Sunday……….Miami fans behind me and they couldn’t speak English. Don’t worry, you guys lose this weekend too, bank on it.

  34. FinFan68 says: Sep 17, 2010 3:14 PM

    overkil2 says:
    September 17, 2010 2:31 PM
    I love reading those people who want Ginn back. Did you guys forget how many drops he had? Actually, it would be easier to remember how many catches he had.
    He can’t catch the damn ball, period!
    ———————————–
    Ginn sucked as a #1 receiver. He dropped the ball over the middle because he worried about getting hit (as evidenced by his knack for hitting the sidelines on kickoffs). He did drop a deep ball against the colts…all are true. The difference is, with Marshall, all the pressure would be off Ginn. They could keep him on sideline routes and just use him for the deep routes. His speed forces at least one safety to drop back (away from Marshall, Bess, and Fasano). Play action works much better when there is someone on the field that can run past the defense (we do not have that guy any more). The running game could be better because of that as well. I admit Ginn had a bunch of drops but he got much better towards the end of the year and he made some very difficult catches on 3rd and 4th downs. He was a sorry excuse for a #1 receiver and he was drafted way too high, but if Ginn were still on the team, the Dolphins would be better off. If you can’t see that, you need to think a little more objectively.

  35. getsome says: Sep 17, 2010 7:58 PM

    Am I hearing this correctly? You idiots are missing Ted Ginn? Don’t forget why you wanted him out of Miami so bad in the first place. He screwed the Dolphins out of two wins last year – against Indy and New Orleans! Bottom line is Harltine needs to step it up and Marlon Moore better ready in case he doesn’t.

  36. paintman34 says: Sep 17, 2010 9:53 PM

    #1 if the defense held up in NEW orleans we would not have lost and #2 ginn had 1 drop against the saints but he fors=ced a funble on sharper but they made a bad call and we should have keot him cuz he would have been better off at #2 cuz he had speed and droped tough catches where those would go to marshall and he would suceed, also does any one know that ted ginn got hurt and is out for a few weeks a sprained MCL

  37. FinFan68 says: Sep 17, 2010 11:24 PM

    The saints game was lost by Sparano’s inexplicable time-out that gave Brees enough time to talk Payton into going for it. That changed the momentum going into the half and the saints got hot. The defense did have a knack for 4th qtr implosions. As for the Indy game…2 missed tackles could easily be blamed for the loss. Ginn’s play could have sealed it but letting Clark (i think) step over players and lumber down the field for a huge play is what cost that game.

  38. hdahs143 says: Sep 18, 2010 2:27 PM

    Watch!!
    CJ SPILLER says:
    September 17, 2010 2:49 PM
    @hdahs143…….. ……Don’t know what game you were watching numb nuts. Miami couldn’t score against the Bills Def. What 24 points are you talking about? Dude, the truth is your QB is not any better than Trent Edwards and he sucks……….as far as fan base………you should shut your piehole……….The Bills are the 2nd or 3rd smallest market in the NFL and they still were 10th in attendance last year……….your team dickhead was 19th in attendance. Think before you post.

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