Philadelphia Daily News proclaims Vick to be Eagles' "Top Dog"

VickTopDog.jpgA redemption act isn’t as compelling as it could be if we’re not constantly reminded of the fact that it’s a redemption act, which in turn requires a constant reminder of the reason for the redemption in the first place.

The folks at the Philadelphia Daily News have provided today’s reminder of the new Eagles starter’s sordid past with a front-page photo and two words in all caps and large print:  “Top Dog.”

The dogfighting dynamic had become overlooked when Mike Vick faded into oblivion as a backup-and-cameo quarterback in 2009.  The situation resurfaced in June 2010 after one of his partners in the dog-eat-dog world of, well, dogs eating dogs was struck by a bullet outside Vick’s 30th birthday party.  But the question of whether Vick should have had a open-to-the-public party while still on federal probation — and the question of whether he had any role in the shooting (he didn’t) — took precedence, making the dogfighting details simply part of the setting of the scene for reports regarding the birthday brouhaha.

Now that Vick stunningly has seized the opportunity arising from a concussion suffered by Kevin Kolb in the first half of the first game of the season, the “Top Dog” headline suggests that the dogfighting history will be dusted off and dropped back into the middle of the discussion.

From our perspective, it’s a moot point.  Though we believed that Vick’s post-prison penalty should have been stiffer (especially since Pacman Jones once was suspended by the league for a year even though he never spent a night in jail), we’ve moved on — and we think it’s the right approach.  Though Vick’s behavior shouldn’t be forgotten, it’s no longer relevant to who he is, to what he has accomplished, and to where he’s heading.

172 responses to “Philadelphia Daily News proclaims Vick to be Eagles' "Top Dog"

  1. “Though his behavior shouldn’t be forgotten, it’s no longer relevant to who he is, to what he has accomplished, and to where he’s heading.”
    Really? If that’s true, then lay off your “Smear Roethlisberger” campaign.

  2. @drumbug71:
    Vick served his time in prison for dogfighting, and has not engaged in it since. Case closed.
    Roethlisberger didn’t serve any time, and yet still keeps raping people. That’s the difference.

  3. The only thing that Vick is “top” at is being a piece of human filth. I can’t stand the gushing over this POS and its about the final straw for me and the NFL.
    I thought I would make it through the season and then let the lockout finish my interest in the sport, but at this point its too much. Fu*k the NFL and their scumbag players.

  4. ” Though we believed that Vick’s post-prison penalty should have been stiffer (especially since Pacman Jones once was suspended by the league for a year even though he never spent a night in jail), ”
    Vick did his time.

  5. We should all get over the dog fighting aspect of this story and instead concentrate on the middling quarterback Vick is. I salute Reid for this decision and wish the Eagles well as they march towards another non-championship season.

  6. It’s still relevant as long as he is on probation. When people say he has paid his debt to society they are wrong. His debt is paid when his sentence is fully complete.
    It isn’t, is it?

  7. WOW! Be proud you Philadelphia scumbags. Karma is about to slap Vick in the face. How pathetic is your city?

  8. The headline was not that bad. They had originally considered “Eagles throw fans a bone-Vick starts” or “Reid’s bark worse than bite-folds under pressure and starts Vick”

  9. What I think the paper is saying is that if Vick doesn’t perform well… I think you know where this is going.

  10. Well it’s not like any of us forgot. Still, I see your point. It’s almost like they’re glorifying the crime as well as the redemption.
    But really all anyone cares about is football. And in the end, this is the just the story hungry media drudging things up (something you should be familiar with, Florio). What can you say? Cheap puns are just how the news works.
    At least Vick served his time, more than you can say for most pro athletes brought up on charges.

  11. Vick and Roethlisberger are different cases. Vick’s not really a ‘repeat offender’ after getting caught 😉
    Personally, I’m happy for him. If only he had shown this much passion for the game when he was drafted, the Kennelz never would have been started, and he’d be on his way to a near-HOF career.

  12. “in the dog-eat-dog world of, well, dogs eating dogs ”
    This is why I come to this website.

  13. “Though his behavior shouldn’t be forgotten, it’s no longer relevant to who he is, to what he has accomplished, and to where he’s heading.”
    Wrong Florio. This is a man who is only sorry he was caught, and if you think he is rehabilitated you’re delusional. Until he has been he is a greater threat to set a bad example the more he regains his public notoriety, so it is ABSOLUTELY relevant. Will he ever truly get it? Doubtful.

  14. @pcloadletter
    I don’t want to ignite another Roethlisberger/”Rapistberger” debate, but I think the argument could be made that Ben is paying his time now, being suspended 4 games for essentially being an idiot, but not being charged with a crime.
    Just a lot of Roethlisberger bashing on this website, and I hope Florio/PFT let that story die and focus on the current NFL stories.

  15. I am really surprised how pathetic so many of you are about the whole dog-fighting incident. Are you all really THAT ignornat as to how animals are treated in this country every day, let alone around the world? In China, dogs are routinely skinned ALIVE and eaten. What’s worse, in America, we treat pigs (who happen to be the 4th most intelligent mammals on the planet behind humans, chimps, and dolphins) in ways so disgracefully inhumane it should be illegal. But do any of you cry about that? Nope. If you animals-rights morons want to speak out against, speak out against something worth your time, not against an athlete whose changed his life for the better.

  16. the last line of this article is all anybody needs to hear…just wait until vick smokes the cowboys like a cheap stogee and voxveritas refers to the convickt or the dog killer….

  17. Why even go there? I’m sure there were hundreds of non-offensive headlines with which they could have gone.
    So sick of this tounge in cheeck bs from the media, trying to push the lines of controversy.

  18. pcloadletter says: September 22, 2010 8:53 AM
    @drumbug71:
    Vick served his time in prison for dogfighting, and has not engaged in it since. Case closed.
    ————————————————
    Another moron who has no clue. Vick never served time for dogfighting. Why is this so difficult for Vick supporters to understand?

  19. Mike Vick needs to be put in a pit and made to fight for his life until he can’t fight any more. Then someone should drown him.

  20. He was a Lion Killer Sunday and hopefully hes a Jaguar killer sunday and thats all I care about. Deal with it cause noone cares.

  21. Vick did a disgusting thing, almost psychotic what he did. I don’t like him and wouldn’t want to be friends with him.
    he no my friend.
    He did his time.
    You all should stop dogging him……see what I did there, I said dogging him and that is funny cause he killed dogs. I am super funny.
    *Pats self on back

  22. # pcloadletter says: September 22, 2010 8:53 AM
    “Roethlisberger didn’t serve any time, and yet still keeps raping people. That’s the difference.”
    Good, hang on to that hate. I hope it stays with you for the rest of your miserable, pointless life.

  23. At this point the comments and quotes about Vicks past will always be made. Fans will still talk sh*t at the games and on pages like this. Some might even lose interests in football (Harrison!), which actually proves that your not a true sports fan anyway. With that being said, Vick’s gonna use all this as motivation to continue succeeding at what he’s doing. Eventually, the comments from Football purists will go from a boil to a simmer, but PETA will always be loud. Those non-philly fans, will hate, but thats only because Vick and the birds carved them up the week before. Philly fans will give Vick more crap for bad play decisions, as opposed to this.
    I got faith in my Eagles.
    Soon, you all will too.
    GO EAGLES!!

  24. The guy killed some dogs…get over it!
    The best part is the people so outraged over his actions are the same ones who have pig for breakfast, chicken for lunch, and cow for dinner… hypocrites.

  25. Chapnasty. says:
    September 22, 2010 9:00 AM
    WOW! Be proud you Philadelphia scumbags. Karma is about to slap Vick in the face. How pathetic is your city?
    ___________________________________
    How’s that 0-2 start treating you? I can see it makes you angry. Don’t be jealous.

  26. How do you NOT start Vick?…I’m not really a big fan but 1.) He’s been a starting QB in this league. 2.) Philly’s O-Line sucks (6 sacks to Detroit!?!) and why put a recently concussed person into that meat grinder. 3.) He’s played great!..he’s still exciting.
    I’d start him too.

  27. It’s a damn shame that Eagles are mortgaging their future because Mike Vick had a “decent” game against my Lions.
    Decent, because I can admit we have possibly the worst secondary in the league. Decent because like Cutler, a bulk of his yards and one of his touchdowns came off of a catch-and-run with poor tackling.
    Mortgaging their future meaning Kolb’s mentality has to have taken a hit. (At least me thinks so).
    Would we be having this discussion if the Lions figured out how to win that game. I doubt it. Good Luck this season Eagles, hope you made the right move.

  28. i hope he burns in hell for all eternity and sustains a season ending injury in week 3. he is lower than the scum at the bottom of a public toilet and even if he WERE that….id get out the bleach

  29. # pcloadletter says: September 22, 2010 8:53 AM
    @drumbug71:
    Vick served his time in prison for dogfighting, and has not engaged in it since. Case closed.
    Roethlisberger didn’t serve any time, and yet still keeps raping people. That’s the difference.
    __________
    Should the fact that Vick did time and Roethlisberger did not tell you something? Like Vick was guilty and Ben was not?
    For the last damn time, if Roethlisberger actually raped someone he would have done time or at least have been charged/arrested.
    You people really are stupid, Vick chokes the life out of mammals that were bred to fight for his financial benefit and you still take cheap shots at Ben.

  30. He is still a felon. Didn’t he have 2 years probation too that is not fully served yet?
    So if he is stil serving probation for the crime why should anyone move on?
    That’s a bit much even for a liberal lawyer.

  31. @ xxxsixeightxxx
    At least 20 people are killed a year by cows and I bet if you wanted to look you would find that the rest of Mr. Cow’s farm dwelling murderous friends put a few more notches in the old barn.
    How about we just agree that the killing of any animal for entertainment is very wrong and at a Mike Vick scale should carry a much stiffer punishment.

  32. To all of you who say he has served his time and deserves a second chance…do all the dogs he tortured and killed get a second chance? He is still a POS and continues to try to lie his way out of everything. Amazing to me that people still want to look at him like he is a hero.

  33. WOW,
    Who held a gun to your head while you wrote this article, Florio?
    That has got to be the nicest thing you have ever written about vick.

  34. I hear Charles Manson is up for parole soon. He is a changed man, would you like to speak on his behalf at the parole hearing?
    Mel Gibson had a few bad days, smacked around his girlfriend, made some bad phone calls and uttered some racial slurs. Bad days happen to everyone – we should forgive him and move on right?
    Selective forgiveness is a joke.

  35. On to the next story please, this was an easy call based on the abilities of the players, people don’t want to hear this but if he couldn’t play he’d be back in Hampton and everyone who hates him would be happy.

  36. “Though Vick’s behavior shouldn’t be forgotten, it’s no longer relevant to who he is, to what he has accomplished, and to where he’s heading.” Really?

  37. he did time for interstate racketeering, not dog killing.
    a fellow nubian made sure of that.
    he craps out in the 2nd half of the season. remember 2005/2006.

  38. What happened Florio?? You ran into Mike Vick in person and realized that you’re the bigger douche than he???

  39. The defenses will catch up to the doggy killer now that they know he’s playing. Looks like a long year in philthydelphia.

  40. Well, if this doesn’t work, you can always take him to the wood shed and beat him like a…nevermind.
    That would be in poor taste and reserved only for dogs in Vick’s world.

  41. Damnright VIck is a dog killer! He’s also a Lion killer, Cowboy Killer, Redskin Killer, Giant Killer, Jaguar Killer, VIking Killer, and God forbid, a SAINT killer!

  42. Chapnasty – Philly is a great city so in order to keep it that way please keep you, your family, and extended friends out.

  43. No longer relevant?? Really? What happened to Mr Lurrie stating that Vick will have to make amends. He stated if he can help save more dogs than he killed then signing him would not be in vain. Well, what the heck has this POS done to save more dogs than he killed? He has done nothing except speak at a few schools or such and declare “woe is me, don’t do what I did or your lose alot of money”. This guy is a sub-human piece of garbage who did not serve his time for killing animals, he served time for illegal gambling (dog-fighting business) He NEVER served time for cruelty to animals.

  44. Thanks to the iPhone, I get to express my opinion (Vick is a heartless, inhumane asshole) AND drop him off at the pool at the same time.
    Kaplop!

  45. Guys, Stallworth killed a man and will be playing for the Ravens this season. Vick did his time (more than Stallworth by the way) and deserves to be judged on what he does on the field.
    Enough with the comments on his personal problems because they don’t add anything to the conversation. The law and the league have decided that he should be allowed to move on, so let’s focus on football.
    The real topic here is that Andy Reid is going insane and just threw Kolb under the bus!

  46. “Vick served his time in prison for dogfighting, and has not engaged in it since. Case closed.”
    Can you prove Vick is still not involved in dogfighting? No you can’t. He very well could be for all we know. Tigers rarely change their stripes

  47. Haha i Love itt, I’ll be wearing my Vick jersey proudly week 4 in philly.
    Im sick of all you people living in the past, the man went to federal prision for 2 years and lost millions of dollars, so can we please move on from Bad Newz Kennels?
    Its dead like the dogs buried in the backyard

  48. @harrisonhits..
    Good stop watching. Thats the problem with people today.. whine whine whine. Vick is getting it done on the field.. when he doesn’t Kolb will be back. I’m sick of hearing about off the field stuff.. I watch the game for the game.. not for some reality tv gossipy crap.. When will MEN get back to being MEN??

  49. Its unfortunate that Eddie Monster (Mike Florio) continues to harp on the past. The fact is, Mike Vick is the best Quarter back on the Eagles team and Andy Reid should receive a pat on the back for making a great decision as a Head Coach.
    GO CHIEFS!!!!!

  50. I hear Charles Manson is up for parole soon. He is a changed man, would you like to speak on his behalf at the parole hearing?
    Mel Gibson had a few bad days, smacked around his girlfriend, made some bad phone calls and uttered some racial slurs. Bad days happen to everyone – we should forgive him and move on right?
    Selective forgiveness is a joke.
    Gibson makes another movie like the last one.. sure I’ll go see it. I, for one, can separate peoples off the field or stage lives from what they produce. Glad to see you have your soapbox out.. probably because you’re a midget..

  51. Though we believed that Vick’s post-prison penalty should have been stiffer (especially since Pacman Jones once was suspended by the league for a year even though he never spent a night in jail), we’ve moved on — and we think it’s the right approach.
    You are not Roger Goddell!!! Michael Vick has served his appointed time in prison and from the league.
    It’s time to let it go and allow this man to move on!

  52. Chapnasty. says: September 22, 2010 9:12 AM
    pcloadletter says: September 22, 2010 8:53 AM
    @drumbug71:
    Vick served his time in prison for dogfighting, and has not engaged in it since. Case closed.
    ___________
    Were you born this ignorant or did it take years of training? How do you know he ‘has not engaged since’? Is it because it has not appeared on sportscenter?
    There are plenty of non-reported crimes is this country every day and who is to say that he didn’t go right back to his old ways?
    I am not saying he did or did not but how do you know, are you his personal assistant??

  53. “it’s no longer relevant to who he is, to what he has accomplished, and to where he’s heading.”
    Are you really this crack-tarded floor boy? Vick didn’t accidentally run over a dog. He killed, what 100? That is who he is. Heck I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s already started another operation.

  54. If Mel Gibson could run a 4.4 and throw the ball 80 yards, you better believe he’s be on an NFL roster.
    And if he played for your team, you’d be buying your kids his jersey for Christmas.

  55. I wonder how many of the dog lovers posting here watch MMA fights,and love watching two HUMANS beat the crap out of each other?

  56. 1.) The Daily News is a sqaure, half inch thick pile of trash, its basically the national inquirer, and as we all know, this is what the print media is left to fight for their lives with, raunchy headlines, and tmz like stories, since the flow of media information with the web and social networks has left the print media in the dust
    2.) Please explain how the actions that mike vick engaged in (very digusting and reprehensible they are) has anything to do with the integrity or moral fiber of the philadelphia fan…get over it, dont be mad and a philadelphia hater because you live in the bible belt and you still use flip phones
    3.) Anyone sticking up for ben roethlisberger should be ashamed of themselves… “For the last damn time, if Roethlisberger actually raped someone he would have done time or at least have been charged/arrested” – (Steel Curtain 2K)…are you kidding me, there have been people falsely imprisoned, even put to death, and plenty of people who have gotten away with murder (christ…juice anyone)…just because you havent been charged or convicted of a crime doesnt mean that you are innocent…if you are a female that is sexually assaulted by a pro athlete, or a female that is going to pretend you were sexually assaulted by a pro athlete for that matter, and you go through with prosecution, you have to be prepared for every aspect of your life made public, as well as your family and anyone close to you that could remotely be used against you…a 20something girl that went through a traumatic experience might not want to jump right into that situation

  57. there’s a white blonde hair girl on youtube throwing newborn puppies into lake its funny how thats not on the newz. where’s peta or the pickett lines you hypocrites.

  58. @ birdman
    It feels as good as someone who thinks 2 games out of a 16 game season really mean that much. Especially in a division where all 4 teams are playing like garbage: yes beating the Lions and Shaun Hill by 3 implies playing like garbage. Vick will be destroyed against a good team, just wait.
    And for the record, Dallas loses against the Texans and likely wins 5 games this season. So go ahead and throw some more Cowboy jokes on there. Nice to hear from you again though!

  59. The best part is the subtitle using the term “Shocking” along with it.
    You know, just in case you forgot that part.

  60. The man is a fellon and would not have a job in most companies with his criminal record.
    Just because he can run fast which I am sure he learned running away from the police as a youth and can throw a ball does not make him a man.
    He is scum and always will be and the NFL needs to set a standard as to what they consider over the line when it comes to criminal actions.
    And if your a convicted fellon you have no place in my NFL.
    And my team would not sign this scum they have standards. If you doubt it how long was it before plex got cut after his issue. They cut shocky due do his behavior.
    Some teams have class and some just want to win at all costs those teams will find the fans going away sooner or latter

  61. My moral life would be in a shambles were in not for the thoughtful writings of a stranger from WV! Thanks for this Florio!
    I really need you to minister to the masses. Stick with football, not redemption and closure.
    PFT really needs a competitor site.

  62. Michael Vick has never taken responsibility for his actions. All along he has blamed it on everyone else. It wasn’t his fault that he funded the ring, provided the land for the ring, or killed dogs himself. So, yeah, his past is part of who he is today.
    Also, he was never that good of a QB to begin with. The Falcons never even had back to back winning seasons with him. So, why he gets a pass now and everyone acts like the Super Bowl is a lock amazes me.

  63. Once again the Daily News proves to be as classless as the Eagles Organization. Michael Vick has been tremendous but if you believe for one minute “Fat” Andy’s statement’s that Vick gives us a chance to win the Superbowl this year then you need to get your head out of Andy’s cheeseburger. This team is greener than the weed Andy stole off his kids. The offensive line is exactly that “offensive” and Kolb as much as I like him would get killed behind them. If this is truly the direction we are going, which is the same direction we’ve been going for 25 years…. Cunningham & McNabb = 0 Superbowls then so be it, but do Kolb a favor and trade him, since he is your “franchise” quarterback at least he was for 22 minutes. Time for Andy to move on.

  64. As a vegetarian, animal rights supporter, and pet owner (unlike you meat eaters), I should be more upset and disturbed by the Michael Vick situation–and I was.
    But I am also someone who believes that if someone sincerely asks for a second chance, they deserve it. As if you guys NEVER made a mistake and said “I’m sorry” (and judging from your posts, you should be saying sorry more often). It took me a while, but I’m cheering for Vick.
    And before the comments start, no, I don’t believe Ben is sorry yet for being a jerk (he’s only sorry he’s in trouble). That will take more time. Until then, I’m still cheering for my team to win.

  65. First they run McNabb out of town, then the give Kolb two quarters to prove himself. It is a matter of trying to win now vs. building for the future. If you think you can win a Super Bowl this season than good call, but if not then play your future QB.
    I hope they trade Kolb to Cleveland.

  66. Harrison you r a peice of shit really this makes you want to stop watching football but ray lewis si good or how bout donte stallworth he killed a guy, people deserves second chances it is trash like you who give americans a bad name.

  67. wow I cant believe this many people care about this non story.
    Its all about race.
    If vick was white this would be a non story.
    I’am White and I know its true.
    Whats wrong with you people?
    Iam a realist Not a racist, Like I dont think its bad to say Black qbs usually and mostly suck. Just like white people suck at basketball and running back. Black people suck at kicking.. well I dont really know if thats true I never seen one.
    I dont think race is a big deal you people hate this guy and its only for one reason…..his skin color.. its 2010 not 1920

  68. Jon Evans says:
    Vick did his time.
    Bullshit. Vick never served a day for torturing the 8 dogs to death. He would be doing 5 years consecutively for each count if the Virginia DA wasn’t afraid if putting away the state’s big “hero”.
    Vick’s a sociopathic piece of shit and shouldn’t be in the NFL at all, nevermind starting for the Eagles. Then again, what does one expect from a country that glorifies senseless violence, “hip hop” culture and the “gangsta” lifestyle?

  69. do you morons realize how many scumbags play in nfl if we didnt root for teams with bad guys on it we would have no fans! get over it guys beat the shit out of there wife s and no one cares but this oh my god! and chapnasty your a tool 0 2 ha ha ha!

  70. You people cry over dogs, how about using some of that energy on crying for the troops that die on the battle field everyday to keep your sorry butts safe.
    Is the life of a solider, sailor or airman worth less than that of a dog?
    God bless the troops and my friends…
    I have 2 dogs so I do understand.

  71. Vick has never been a good QB. Why is everyone getting so excited because he played pretty good for a game and a half?

  72. I suggest all you perfect people that hate Vick because of what he did do something to stop dog fighting altogether just because he was caught does not mean it does not happen anymore. Hell it’s in every city in this country and you sit there on your asses and blame Vick he was not the first to do it and be last. Matter and fact you never even would had cared about it if you read it in the paper if it was not a famous person that got caught. Let me remind you people about some facts Stallworth killed a man, Rapistbuger got underage(drinking age) girls drunk to rape them twice, Kobie got away with it, Ray Lewis got away with murder and was named M.V.P that same year. You all need to get off your high horses and presure you local law enforcement to put an end to dog fighting if you feel so strongly about it . just focusing on Vick is nothing short of hypocritcal.

  73. Vick’s actions were reprehensible but Pacman was involved in an incident in which a person was shot and paralyzed.

  74. Even with Andy Reid turning into the football equivalent of George W. Bush (goofy decisions based on video game logic spun to the public with a smug “I’m smarter than you” delivery after hours of late night meetings with management spent staring at a weegie board), I am out of jokes, just disbelief.
    You trade the running and inaccurate, yet successful by most standards, franchise quarterback to a division rival to essentially make way for the next franchi…nah we were just kidding that guy sucks…to make room for a much less accomplished criminal running and inaccurate franchise quarterback…named Ron Mexico.
    I didn’t mind Mike Vick as the friend of a friends girlfriend who was a stripper and you saw her twice a year at parties and it was funny because she was a complete train-wreck…I would mind that chick being my wife. Vick was a side-show, change of pace role player, now he’s the face of the f’ing team, with Reid W. Bush grinning like the Cheshire Walrus standing right behind him.
    Even though they never won a Superbowl and their video game style of play was never really constructed to win one, at least they won games, energized the fan base, grew the franchise and did it with a group of really, really good guys: Dawkins, Trotter, Staley, Thomas, Runyan, Douglas, Westbrook, Vincent, McNabb, etc. For all of McNabb’s goofiness, a lot of that persona grew from having to play in Philadelphia, you almost have to laugh to keep from crying and somehow develop a self-defense mechanism to keep the vultures from tearing at the flesh of who you really are as a person and a family man as McNabb most certainly is. Frustrated at times, yes, but I was never embarrassed to be an Eagles fan. We weren’t the Cowboys with Irvin, Deion, Leon Lett, Ryan Leaf and Quincy Carter, we were the good guys.
    Vick will go 10-6 and the team will lose in the playoffs, just like McNabb always did give or take a regular season and extra playoff win here or there, so the outcome will be virtually the same but I would rather feel frustrated and sleep at night, then feel embarrassed and deceived as most Eagles fans feel now following the smoke and mirrors charade of the last 14 months.

  75. ray lewis stalworth pacman lineman from rams who killed someone big ben the 90 s cowboys all dirtballs who kept playing get over it!

  76. “Though Vick’s behavior shouldn’t be forgotten, it’s no longer relevant to who he is, to what he has accomplished, and to where he’s heading.”
    WRONG! Everything about us is relevant to who we are, what we have accomplished and where we are heading. And that includes our past, and our misdeeds. These were MIGHTY misdeeds in which this man participated.
    Just as a recovering alcoholic may no longer drink, or a recovering drug addict may no longer do drugs, that part of their lives and psyche plays a large role in who that person is for the rest of their lives.
    I fear that this is why so much aberrant behavior is excused in professional sports, because much more is at stake: money. Character we can excuse. Making money is much more important.

  77. Whoever that was that compared MMA to dog fighting needs to shut up. Dogs are forced to fight until the death. MMA is 2 men, like myself, who choose to enter the cage for trained combat, aware of the risks, willing to compete. To compare it to dog fighting is retarded. I dont care about murderous pit bulls but dont compare it to MMA moron.

  78. In the end, what does it matter? Who cares about Michael Vick or the Philadelphia Eagles? It’s not like they will ever win a Super Bowl in our lifetime:)

  79. Chapnasty. says:
    September 22, 2010 9:00 AM
    WOW! Be proud you Philadelphia scumbags. Karma is about to slap Vick in the face. How pathetic is your city?
    Clearly not as pathetic as your city!
    Dope! So original coming from a guy whos team is 0-2 so pathetic.
    typical big mouth w/ no bite just like his 0-2 cowgirls.

  80. How come noone cared that Stalworth killed a human and served less time in jail than Vick????????? Noone says anything about that guy. Oh, thats right, PETA only cares about animals that dont taste good.

  81. eam147 says:
    You people cry over dogs, how about using some of that energy on crying for the troops that die on the battle field everyday to keep your sorry butts safe.
    Hey Dumbass, who says we don’t?
    imayberight says:
    I suggest all you perfect people that hate Vick because of what he did do something to stop dog fighting altogether just because he was caught does not mean it does not happen anymore.
    Child rape happens every day in the U.S. as well. Are you trying to say I shouldn’t revile pedophiles unless I “do something to stop [child rape] altogether”?
    It really is amazing to read some of the ignorance that gets posted here. God bless the U.S.A.

  82. Umm..he didnt just kill dogs. he slowly tortured them, hanging them. electrocuting them, drowning them and so on. try to imagine standing around with your buddies, watching dogs being tortured for fun. it isnt like they took these dogs to a field and shot them to put them out of their misery. they had fun torturing a living, breathing creature. thats our new starting qb. mr lurie, thats the poster child for your billion dollar franchise.

  83. If you complain about Vick killing dogs and you eat Chicken, Beef, Pork or Fish you are a retarded hypocrit.

  84. @Chappy!
    Come on now, you sound like an Eagles fan with all of that negativity toward your teams chances…

  85. I have nothing against Philly or the Eagles but I am sick to death of hearing sportcasters proclaim how proud they are of Michael Vick. Vick is an immoral, disgusting man who is not worthy of a second chance. To those of you who say we all make mistakes and we all deserve a second chance – bull. I have never in my life made a mistake that would ever come close to what Michael Vick has done. I have a moral compass. He’d probably still be killing and torturing dogs if he hadn’t been caught (and tried to lie his way out of it). Sorry Philly – you have the blood of Michael Vick on your hands.

  86. This paper listed this headliner because they need to sell papers. In our city where we are in constant conflict about our sports teams the A******* at the Daily News decide to throw salt in the wound !!! Bring out the nay sayers again !!! God forbit we want to win some football games and have a winning record !!! This is why the media gets a bad rep, because you print/display DUMB S*** like this, just to sell material !!! I didn’t even read the articles and don’t care to !!! That’s why this paper is in the “red” with revenue and is always on the verge of being sold to someone else !!! I hope they do fold, I read everything online anyway !!! GO BIRDS !!!

  87. Is this a real Florio posting saying something positive about Vick heck no this has to be a ghost writer using his name

  88. @bird
    Have you watched a Cowboys game? Our fat coach can’t eat or sleep. It is a damn soap opera with no signs of getting better. As a fan, I can’t help but be 99% pessimistic!

  89. Maybe folks need to go back and read what Vick and his fellow Bad Newz Kennel pals were doing to those dogs. Read the way they went about their business and the gruesome and brutal ways they killed non-performing animals.
    Vick will never be allowed to live his life without folks pointing this out. And that is the way it should be.

  90. xxxsixeightxxx says:
    September 22, 2010 9:15 AM
    He was a Lion Killer Sunday and hopefully hes a Jaguar killer sunday and thats all I care about. Deal with it cause noone cares.
    __________________________________
    I would smash your face in if you were sitting next to me at an NFL game. People like you are lucky the internet doesn’t show your identity.
    Weak f**k!

  91. “Though Vick’s behavior shouldn’t be forgotten, it’s no longer relevant to who he is…”
    It defines who he is. He is a depraved lowlife, and so are those who believe that factor is not relevant.
    Florio prioritizes football over basic decency, and in the process proves himself to be a typically craven conformist. The consensus in the NFL is that killing/torturing/raping is less relevant than passing/running/tackling, and Florio toes that party line.
    Unlike the mentally defective commenters on this site who defend Vick, Florio is not a crack whore and therefore has no valid excuse for his idiocy.

  92. xxxsixeightxxx says:
    If you complain about Vick killing dogs and you eat Chicken, Beef, Pork or Fish you are a retarded hypocrit.
    …and so begins “The Dumbing Down of America – Act II”. Unreal.

  93. So philly do you wish you had McNabb back?
    And how about Rush, is McNabb over rated cause he’s black.
    Hmmm maybe Andy Reid is over rated cause he’s fat and he covers his mustache up with that paper because he’s afraid it still has milk and corn flakes in it.
    And seriously folks get over being mad at micheal Vick. Yes he deserved more punishment than he got, but seriously, there are better things to worry about. Go volunteer at a dog shelter if you love dogs so much.

  94. Who cares, most people just get probation for dog fighting. Vick paid his debt and then some. Let lying er….dogs lie.

  95. Ya know, I am a dog lover and all and I sure don’t think much of Vick and his values, morals, constant lying, whatever, but I have to admit, that is a fairly funny headline by that Philly rag.

  96. @n0hopeleft
    Actually Im 2-0 as an MMA fighter so if you were next to me you wouldnt do anything. The internet protects punks like you who talk tough on your keyboard.

  97. OK. I want to apologize for my hostile behavior towards others on this board. Now, how about the rest of you? Let’s all be nice and get along even if we have opposing views and teams. I want you all to join me and try to be good, kind-hearted people. Let’s stop hurting each other and learn to love what is really important in life. Ourselves and others.
    I want everyone to take the pledge.
    Who’s with me?

  98. “You people really are stupid, Vick chokes the life out of mammals that were bred to fight for his financial benefit and you still take cheap shots at Ben.”
    But , Ben chokes the senses out of women for his own personal benefit.
    LiveNBreatheFootball says:
    September 22, 2010 10:07 AM
    Michael Vick has never taken responsibility for his actions. All along he has blamed it on everyone else. It wasn’t his fault that he funded the ring, provided the land for the ring, or killed dogs himself. So, yeah, his past is part of who he is today.
    Also, he was never that good of a QB to begin with. The Falcons never even had back to back winning seasons with him. So, why he gets a pass now and everyone acts like the Super Bowl is a lock amazes me.
    The man served 2 years in a federal prison I say he took responsibility for his actions. To all those thae keep saying he never served time i for dog fighting read some times. His guilty plea entails verbage pertaining to the torture of the animals. Lpus federal sentences are DAY FOR DAY and MORE STRINGENT so prosecutors opted for the federal penalty instead of a state penalty.
    As for never being a good QB…. A good QB makes everyone around him better. Falcons were the #1 rushing team in the league when Vcik played. Also remember that Vick only played 3 full season 2 of which the Falcons were in the playoffs. 2 others he was injured and did I mention all of this was done with only a TE to throw the ball to?
    Also no one said the Eagles were going to the Super Bowl just that they would be better. Vick makes the whole offense better and kolb made the offense sluggish. 4.8 yards a completion people.

  99. Ben was never convicted of a crime.. hell there wasnt even probable cause.. VICK was tried and convicted.. also self admitted guilt.. theres the difference!
    Regardless I think Vick has served his time..Im more disgusted that Stallworth killed a man while driving drunk and is playin in the NFL. Im also pissed Braylon Edwards hasnt been suspended.. hes constantly in trouble.. currently on probation and gets a DUI and NO SUSPENSION?? Its all Selective as far as Goodell goes…… im sick of his BS too.

  100. @Schatt Maub
    lol, its hilarious that anyone commenting on here thinks they have credibility. let me know when bloggers are considered credible, respected journalists. I gotta get back to work at the Purdue chicken plant electocuting chickens to death so people can eat them while crying about nike vicks murderous pit bulls.

  101. I humbly agree with Steeler-lady:) And, I honestly disagree with people with an opposing point of view. But, I’m not angry about it anymore. I accept what I cannot change with the wisdom to know what that is.

  102. @meatball13
    Did you really just compare a sport where two consenting adults fight for money to dog fighting? Give your head a shake buddy.
    @raidersteve413 says:
    How is this a “non-story?” All about race? You honestly thing a white person could do what Mike Vick did and no one would care? What is wrong with YOU? Saying people hate Mike Vick because he is black is unbelievably ignorant.
    PS. Tell Steve Nash that “white people suck at basketball”

  103. Taking cheap-shots at Ben Rapistburger? I think the minute he began trolling for underage girls to have his way with, either legally or illegally, he became fair game. I’m sure those of you with daughters, even in Pitts-of-despair-burgh, can understand that. Unless, of course, you have no soul or brain or both.

  104. MMA Fighters.
    Watch what happened to the dude with the sword in “Raiders of the Lost Ark”. That is what would happen to you in short order if you went around threatening to beat people up in most of the places I’ve lived.

  105. @ xxx
    Yeah I am a triple black belt. God why just prove the guy right?
    @asd
    I pledge to keep giving people, especially those fans of the Eagles, Skins and Giants a hard time, because I am a Cowboys fan and thats what I do!

  106. I hope to see the deserving Michael Vick surpass E.J. Henderson, Anquan Boldin, Joe Theismann, Napoleon Kauffman and many not at all deserving other players one day.

  107. @Mooch
    I never saw Raiders of the lost ark. whats it about?
    i wasnt the one who threatened anyone, it was the tough guy who posted…
    “I would smash your face in if you were sitting next to me at an NFL game. People like you are lucky the internet doesn’t show your identity.
    Weak f**k!”

  108. the only reason Ben wasn’t charged is that the little ass town couldn’t afford to fight him and his plethora of lawyers. Stiller fans are stoopid

  109. birdmancometh says:
    September 22, 2010 11:12 AM
    @Chappy!
    Come on now, you sound like an Eagles fan with all of that negativity toward your teams chances…
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You mean the Philadelphia Beagles….

  110. Is this MMA guy suffering from a concussion? He may have to sit out a few comments.
    You see MMA guy, people eat chickens and things of that nature to, ya know, eat and stay alive. It is called keeping the population going. Killing dogs because they can’t tear up another dog that you trained for betting is not the same, follow? You have been hit too many times in your little noggin.

  111. @ xxxsixeightxxx
    Stallworth could have fought and been found innocent of the charges against him. There is physical evidence and written testimony from police officers that would have been in his favor. His reasons for not fighting this were ( and this was from his statement ) He respected the NFL to much to put it through a show, He respected the Browns to drag them down, He felt he was wrong for being behind the wheel, and he did not want to fight the charges and get off and leave the family without anyhting. So he took a plea deal. Then paid the family on his own ( not apart of the plea ) because of how he felt.
    He was charged with Involuntary Manslaughter, DUI, and wreckless driving. His plea was for all 3 but the minimal sentence. Why is that ? Because the prosecution did not have enough for a solid case to take him down! He was barely over the limit ( not making an excuse ) and the guy ran across a buisy road before dawn…. not to mention he was double the legal limit 😉

  112. I would like to take this opportunity to say, contrary to what every athlete in the world says pretty much every week, “It is what it isn’t.”

  113. @asdfghjkl says:
    September 22, 2010 1:16 PM
    I implore all of you….please be kind:)
    ===================================
    STFU……..Oh, I’m sorry… 🙂

  114. Whoa! the pac man to ovick reference was pretty weak Mr. Florio. No pacman did not spend a night in jail; however in his scenario I believe someone was shot and paralyzed. Vick fought dogs and gambled, not that its honorable but they were not crimes against people. Dogs are not people, loveable and innocent yes but not human beings. Lay off Vick people please! Enough already!

  115. AllThat.? Thank you for that apology. Now, will you join me in the pledge to be kind and act with peace, love, and understanging during football chat on this site?

  116. # BC says: September 22, 2010 9:34 AM
    “Somebody will get fired over that headline.”
    You’re kidding right?
    Do you really think the newspapers give a rat’s ass about somebody’s feelings, or being PC?
    They’re in it for the sales, and today it went through the roof.
    They’ll probably get promoted.

  117. xxxsixeightxxx says:
    Killing animals is killing animals. Justify however youd like to sleep at night.
    …so saith the vegan Mike Vick apologist.

  118. Chapnasty. says: September 22, 2010 12:46 PM
    “Yeah I am a triple black belt.”
    I always imagined you to be a 400+lb donut eating couch potato, but damn.
    Three belts to hold up your pants?

  119. I read that in God’s eyesight sin was sin, no matter what a person has done. And if they ask for forgiveness, forgive and forget it! Therefore, he/she that has NO sin, well cast the first stone, but remember, you it might come a time when you will want forgivness. Examine yourself, get the beam out of your eyes first, and then you can tell others what they should or should not do.

  120. @pcloadletter
    Get the facts straight, Vick never served a day in jail for dogfighting. he served his time for racketeering. Not the same. So do not go on saying that the man served his time for what he did, he got himself a nice slap on the wrist.

  121. @HarrisonHits — Good bye and good riddance, you are upset because Vick is performing at a pro bowl level and obviously are not about redemption, so here’s to hoping you never do anything that you regret in your entire life. No do us all a favor and stop watching, stop commenting and find something else to do to deal with your hostility.

  122. Whether he paid for the crime or not is not the issue here, it’s the fact that this cover glorifies the crime. I find it offensive, and everytime I look at a picture of Michael Vick or hear his name, I have etched in my mind, the horror of what he did to those dogs, many of which had to be killed or were killed for his monetary gain. I work with some of the rescuers that have worked so hard so save the ones that could be saved. Yes we are all human and make mistakes, most of us don’t commit mistakes that involve tortore and death. I would not let this man near my kids or my animals and he sucks as a role model.

  123. Vick is still on federal probation and on a three-year suspended sentence for a state dog fighting conviction.
    Why do you feel it is ok to move past his conviction when he is still serving the penalty?

  124. It’s critical for the Eagles to roll off a winning streak in their next five games against the Jaguars, Redskins, 49ers, Falcons and Titans because their second-half schedule is brutal. In the final nine games, the Eagles face the Colts, Redskins, Giants, Bears, Texans, Cowboys, Giants, Vikings and Cowboys. If Vick doesn’t win, it’s going to be tough to go back to a cold Kolb.
    In Philadelphia, the quarterback controversy will be the hot topic all season. I contend this was a controversy that wasn’t needed. The Eagles should have kept McNabb for 2010.
    They now have chaos instead.

  125. This newspaper stoops to an all-time low with the TOP DOG headline. Low as the scum on my shoe. Obviously run by a talentless bunch of so-called writers.
    AND, for those who say he served his time…Vick served ZERO TIME for animal cruelty…he got off on a plea for that. SO don’t EVER say he served his time.
    And also spare us the laughter by saying he made a MISTAKE. Do you make a mistake for YEARS by MURDERING defenseless animals? No, he loved what he did, laughed about it, and was SO very sorry he got caught. He’s a sociopath and a sadist.

  126. The difference between Vick and thousands of others is just a matter of perception
    Vick fought and killed pit bulls. PETA kills thousands of dogs. PETA employees have been caught killing dogs in inhumane ways. Many face animal cruelty charges. PETA in fact has gone on record supporting wiping out the entire Pit Bull population. Killing them the moment they are captured since they are “lacking any useful purpose”.
    I can go shoot a deer in the face, sell it for profit, and call it hunting. I’m not cruel., I’m a hunter. KFC can cut the beaks off chickens, cage them, and cut their wings with no form of pain killer and be an American institution.
    You cant make a chicken fight for money but you can break a baby cows leg roping it in a rodeo while it runs around in a panic, potentially leading to its death for money. You cant make a dog fight another dog but you can train a dog to find and potentially kill other animals and call it hunting.
    Hell you can train a dog to hunt and kill a slightly different species of canine….a fox! and its perfectly fine most places!
    Is what Vick did wrong? Yes. I happen to find killing a rabbit because its eating things in a garden built in its natural habitat wrong. Doesn’t mean im gonna call my grandfather a murderer.
    There are NFL players that have been charged with beating women multiple times….fine. Vick killed and fought animals, he’s a monster. If a guy shoots a moose then tracks it down and shoots it again for no reason but personal pleasure then he’s a sportsman.
    I just cant make myself care much. Not compared to real crimes against people. Vick is worse in the eyes of the law. Not morally. I wouldn’t kill a pit bull but I wouldn’t shoot a moose either. But I would do both before I beat my wife.
    http://www.slurvemag.com/Season3/images/sarah-palin-moose-hunting.jpg
    That woman was like 6% of the votes away from being the vice president.
    People in general don’t give a care about animal suffering. They choose to care on one or two issues which in the grand scheme of things are quite minor compared to real animal suffering.
    When you have most humanitarian groups taking pitbulls and gassing perfectly healthy ones to death to be “humane”. When the “good guys” way to deal with the situation is borderline genocide of animals abused all their lives to begin with…..you really gotta step back and ask what right is.
    The people who ”love dogs” are killing them by the hundreds of thousands and tell me I need to value a dogs life more than a mink being skinned alive and left to die in the sand?
    When it comes down to it people care about their dog. Their pets. Animals they love. But most don’t really care about animals. And the ones that care the most often end up on the side of people killing them by the thousands. The world doesn’t really value animal life. Not a world that gasses innocent pets merely for existing and being inconvenient to man (not even talking pitbulls, just animals in a shelter).
    The “humane” suggestion to limit pet over population is to carelessly cut off the testicles of the cute ones we want and gas the unwanted ones to death and bury them in mass graves. And I am supposed to be outraged over Michael Vick?
    Animals have it bad. Vick is hardly their greatest enemy.

  127. It’s hilarious to see people twist themselves into pretzels to justify their emotional dependence on the NFL and the criminals that league so lovingly promotes.

  128. From our perspective, it’s a moot point. Though we believed that Vick’s post-prison penalty should have been stiffer (especially since Pacman Jones once was suspended by the league for a year even though he never spent a night in jail), we’ve moved on — and we think it’s the right approach. Though Vick’s behavior shouldn’t be forgotten, it’s no longer relevant to who he is, to what he has accomplished, and to where he’s heading.
    I got respect that you are finally letting it go. And because of that I wont point out that there was a drastic change in your Vick rhetoric as soon as he started playing well. Yes I wont point out that when he was just a back up that every time you would write about him you would add a hateful remark about him being a dog killer and as soon as he started playing good against the Packers all that changed and you started writing stories about how great Vick looked and how he deserves to start.

  129. @ Derf
    That is without a doubt the best argument for getting past Vick’s crimes. While I certainly can’t ignore them, with that perspective it is easier to accept and respect people who do or have decided to move on.

  130. Derf says:
    The difference between Vick and thousands of others is just a matter of perception
    The difference is that unlike the majority of the population, Vick lacks any sort of moral compass and has exhibited an extensive history of sociopathic behaviours. However, I concur that there are thousands just like him – they make up the majority of the prison population.
    Vick fought and killed pit bulls. PETA kills thousands of dogs. PETA employees have been caught killing dogs in inhumane ways. Many face animal cruelty charges. PETA in fact has gone on record supporting wiping out the entire Pit Bull population. Killing them the moment they are captured since they are “lacking any useful purpose”.
    So you are saying that because PETA “kills thousands of dogs” in itself absolves Vick of any wrongdoing whatsoever? By your logic, it is OK to sell crack to kids because street gangs sell much more of it to kids all the time. Seriously, your value system is as messed as Vick’s.
    I can go shoot a deer in the face, sell it for profit, and call it hunting. I’m not cruel., I’m a hunter. KFC can cut the beaks off chickens, cage them, and cut their wings with no form of pain killer and be an American institution.
    Hold on there, Sparky. You cannot “shoot a deer in the face” and “sell it for profit”. The selling of game meat is illegal in most, if not all of North America. Read up on “market hunting” and the history of the wild turkey and why the practice was outlawed before coming on here and spouting nonsense. Furthermore, you cannot “shoot a moose” simply for pleasure and leave it in the woods. Allowing game meat to spoil is both illegal and a serious offense.
    Second of all, the treatment of chickens by “KFC” is an urban legend. KFC in the United States is supplied by Tyson Chicken Farms. While some corporate farming practices may be considered unethical (depending on your viewpoint), animals are not tortured en masse so you can enjoy a bucket of fried chicken.
    You cant make a chicken fight for money but you can break a baby cows leg roping it in a rodeo while it runs around in a panic, potentially leading to its death for money. You cant make a dog fight another dog but you can train a dog to find and potentially kill other animals and call it hunting.
    Again, your ignorance is showing. The major difference between a rodeo and an organized dog fight is that the express purpose of the dog fight is force both dogs to attack and maim each other until one dog is dead. A rodeo, while may resulting in an animal being harmed, is not set up with that express purpose. A realistic comparison would be a bullfight, but bullfighting is oulawed in North America just like dogfighting is.
    As for training dogs to hunt, they are not trained to attack the game. They are trained to either flush game birds, retrieve game birds, or pursue a deer so that the hunters can get a chance to shoot it. Do you know anything about hunting and/or hunting practices at all?
    When you have most humanitarian groups taking pitbulls and gassing perfectly healthy ones to death to be “humane”. When the “good guys” way to deal with the situation is borderline genocide of animals abused all their lives to begin with…..you really gotta step back and ask what right is.
    You actually think “most humaitarian groups” (ie. the Red Cross, Amnesty International, The John Howard Society, Christian Children’s Fund, etc., etc., etc.) take and gas pitbulls to death? What in the hell are you talking about?
    As for your so-called “genocide of animals” [SIC], are you really that dense that I have to explain to you why the uncontrolled breeding of feral dogs and cats is detrimental to a healthy society, how spaying/nutering your pet is the best thing you can do to prevent this, and how an unchecked overpopulation of any given species can and will eventually lead to mass death by disease and starvation?

  131. Baseball: Pete Rose bets on games and is banned for life
    NFL: Vick RUNS and interstate gambling ring and is the head of an illegal enterprise under RICO statues and gets no NFL suspension other than when he was in prison anyway.
    You can’t state with enough emphasis how poorly this makes the NFL and the Eagles look.

  132. People are addicted to NFL football. They will do whatever it takes in their own minds to reconcile the terrible crimes perpetrated by NFL players. Fans like Derf will concoct long, logic-torturing diatribes to justify his addiction and other fans will applaud him. You enable one another just as you enable the NFL to employ people with virtually no redeeming qualities except what they display on the field.

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