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Zeroing in on pass protection for Packers-Bears

Packers-Bears.  Monday Night Football.  It looked like a fun one before the season started, but the game has become even more intriguing after Chicago’s fast start.

If Chicago is going to pull off the upset, they will have to get decent play from their offensive line.  Starting left tackle Chris Williams will miss the game, so Frank Omiyale will shift to left tackle and Kevin Shaffer will be at right tackle.  Center Olin Kreutz is off to a strong start this year, which should settle the line down.

Despite having to face Clay Matthews and a Packers defense leading the league in sacks, Bears coach Lovie Smith shockingly remains optimistic.

“We beat a good football team with that combination,” Smith said about the Cowboys win via Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune.
“So yeah, we feel real good about that. Our entire group of linemen gives
us flexibility.”

In Mike Martz, the Bears have a coordinator that can counter-punch and cover up weaknesses better than former coordinator Ron Turner.  Green Bay has fewer weaknesses to cover.  They also look replace their left tackle, although most observers consider the possible move from Chad Clifton to rookie Bryan Bulaga an upgrade.

“I’m going to approach it like I’m going to be in there and kind of go from there,” Bulaga told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

The Packers say Clifton will start if healthy, but he was limited in Thursday’s practice.  Clifton’s body appears to be breaking down, as this column by Pete Dougherty did a great job explaining earlier in the week in the Green Bay Press-Gazette.

If Bulaga gets the call, he’ll match up against Julius Peppers all night.  That will be another fun matchup to watch in what should be a great finale to Week Three.

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  1. MikeL says: Sep 24, 2010 9:20 AM

    Bears suck and are lucky to be sitting at 2-0. Go Packers, even though I dislike them also

  2. Calistin says: Sep 24, 2010 9:24 AM

    Gonna need a good week of tackling from the corners and safeties on the quick outside passes to WR and RB in the flat.
    Raji and the rest of the line will get great push, freeing up the LB to get in Cutler’s face. Problem is, the Bears are loaded with speed, and the Pack got killed on the outside runs vs. Vick.
    Morgan Burnett needs to channel Bigby this game and make some hits. I think he will be the single most important players as far as pass def. He’s got great ball skills, but shys away from tackles imo.
    Matthews is probably looking for 4 sacks. He’s an overachiver, what can you say? Important game for Hawk. Hopefully he can show up and help contain Forte. That is, if he gets on the field with all Martz’s 4 WR sets.
    Hopefully Bulaga is ready for prime time, b/c if he can handle Peppers in Chicago on his first MNF, that’s a big positive going foward into the season. If not, I’m sure Crabtree and Jackson will be chipping all night.

  3. Canned Gravy says: Sep 24, 2010 9:44 AM

    Calistin says:
    September 24, 2010 9:24 AM
    Raji and the rest of the line will get great push, freeing up the LB to get in Cutler’s face. Problem is, the Bears are loaded with speed, and the Pack got killed on the outside runs vs. Vick.
    If you look at any video of that game and look at Vick’s yards gained….about 3/4 or more of the yards Vick got were when the Packers pulled a page out of the Mike Sherman book of coaching and went into a prevent pretty much from halftime kick-off forward.
    The one problem with the Packers and MM, has been their inability to stick the dagger into opponents when they have a decent lead. Vick got yards, but he also got hit and hit hard….alot. He won’t be the starting QB long if he keeps playing Randall Cunningham out there.
    Forte will be the key to this game for the Packers D….IMO.

  4. bearsfan says: Sep 24, 2010 9:48 AM

    Bears will win surprisingly easy. Martz is a master at exposing weaknesses and adjusting on the fly.

  5. polishsaaausage says: Sep 24, 2010 9:50 AM

    Packers have a slight edge in this one. But, I have to say….I think that defense is OVER-RATED. C’mon the Bills and Eagles??? The Eagles have good skill players, but their O-line is garbage. The Bills just plain suck. If Martz can adapt like he did against Dallas, I don’t see GB’s pass rush being as dominate as everyone says. I think the key factor (that doesn’t seem to be getting talked about) is Green Bay’s corners. Cutler hasn’t gone up against a CB tandem this good yet. The knock on Knox/Hester is that they sometimes have trouble getting open/separation. I think Williams/Woodson will be tough. So, look for Aromashodu to be back in the game in a big way, and sure-handed Earl Bennett to make some key catches.
    On the other side, Peppers will HAVE to be doubled or chipped every play. Matching him up with a rookie is nuts. DaBears secondary will have to step up in a huge way to stop Rodgers. Watch for Chris Harris to light-up Jermicheal Finley at least once.

  6. minnesconsin_ad says: Sep 24, 2010 9:52 AM

    If Bulaga gets the call, he’ll match up against Julius Peppers all night. That will be another fun matchup to watch in what should be a great finale to Week Three.
    ————
    Peppers moves all over the place, so I doubt Bulaga would have to shoulder that burden by himself for the entire game. But no matter who he’s up against, Peppers is my biggest concern going into this game. The packers absolutely need to keep Rodgers on his feet.

  7. Hauschild says: Sep 24, 2010 9:53 AM

    Peppers against “Short Arms”???
    OUCH!!!

  8. PackFanNChiTown says: Sep 24, 2010 10:00 AM

    Packers got this one in the bag, Bears will be left broken and bleeding again just like last year’s sweep after Monday Night.

  9. NationalFelonLeague.com © says: Sep 24, 2010 10:05 AM

    Bears win at Chicago. Cutler is Superman at home, mainly makes mistakes at home. See Minnesota game last year.
    Martz will cook up some quick drops and look for Knox to have a big day with his blazing speed while everyone focusing on Forte.
    With Grant out Peppers and Harris can pin their ears back and have their way with Rodgers.
    The Bears offense will only get better as the year goes on, but still doubt Bears can win in GB.

  10. mattgso says: Sep 24, 2010 10:28 AM

    I wouldn’t call Bears winning an upset. This is going to be a tight game. Should be fun to watch.

  11. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Sep 24, 2010 10:35 AM

    Hauschild says: September 24, 2010 9:53 AM
    Peppers against “Short Arms”???
    OUCH!!!
    ********************
    they’re not really arms so much as stumps attached to his shoulders. they only hang down about as far as a normal person’s elbow. they’re not even long enough to spank it. but he has alot of heart just to be out there plus peppers may just scream and run in the other direction when he sees bulaga’s freakishly short and hideously deformed arms.

  12. Charles Wood says: Sep 24, 2010 10:41 AM

    polishsaaausage says:
    September 24, 2010 9:50 AM
    …Watch for Chris Harris to light-up Jermicheal Finley at least once.
    ————————————————-
    Teeheehehehehe… Finley getting “light-up” would be a bad move. Best not to make this beast angry… he’s a matchup nightmare no matter who is on him.
    NationalFelonLeague.com © says:
    September 24, 2010 10:05 AM
    Cutler…, mainly makes mistakes at home.
    ——
    True dat.
    ——
    With Grant out Peppers and Harris can pin their ears back and have their way with Rodgers.
    ——————————————–
    What does Grant have to do with Peppers and Harris “having their way with Rodgers”?? The interior of your line stinks and they’ll be man handled by a double FB set with the hard hitting Quinn paving the way for the steam roller Kuhn. Go back and watch some of the Philly game tape.
    There is no having ones way with Rodgers. Period.

  13. JerkStore says: Sep 24, 2010 10:45 AM

    Hopefully Capers has been pouring over the Bears/Cowboys game and putting together a game plan to stop all those quick throws, because I’m sure the Bears will be looking to pull that off again.
    If Cutler is on his game Monday, it will be tough to stop.

  14. MACHINE GUN IBIZA says: Sep 24, 2010 10:47 AM

    The reason that Carolina let Peppers walk is that he had/has a problem in being consistent. We are not talking about taking plays off but taking whole games off. While he has played well so far I am not convinced he will do it all season.

  15. vikingsuperbowls=0 says: Sep 24, 2010 10:49 AM

    Cutler = 3 INTs
    Rodgers = 3 TDs
    big difference. bring that Mike Martz offense…cant wait for Woody and Barnett to get some balls tossed over the middle from that emotionless drone.

  16. JRG3 says: Sep 24, 2010 10:50 AM

    I think this game will be a GREAT Monday night game. The Pack will pull it off by a small margin.
    Chicago is a solid team now, that can’t be overlooked.

  17. purpleguy says: Sep 24, 2010 10:51 AM

    Both teams’ QBs are going to get beat up given the shaky O-lines, which is just fine by me. I’ll bet this is not the high scoring game folks are predicting.

  18. Murgen says: Sep 24, 2010 10:52 AM

    Calistin says: September 24, 2010 9:24 AM
    Morgan Burnett needs to channel Bigby this game and make some hits. He’s got great ball skills, but shys away from tackles imo.
    ———————————–
    Dude has played 2 games, no way you can judge that yet. Against the Bills, he never even had a chance to make a big hit. Besides, I’d rather him make a sure tackle than him going on the PUP like Bob Sanders/Atari Bigby after a big hit.
    ———————————————-
    @Hauschild says: September 24, 2010 9:53 AM
    Peppers against “Short Arms”???
    OUCH!!!
    ———————————–
    Short Arms? This nonsense again! C’MON MAN! That’s all you got Haus? You used to be more creative. Now you just sound retarded.
    The team with the best O-line will with this game. Nuff said.

  19. karpsta says: Sep 24, 2010 10:54 AM

    If the Bears don’t keep containment on Rodgers on his right side it won’t matter what Peppers does. Rodgers ALWAYS scrambles to his right when he’s in trouble. He’ll just keep running away from him.

  20. Pervy XXX says: Sep 24, 2010 11:05 AM

    Peppers is going to smash Aaron”Prince Poppy Cock” Rodgers like he’s playing Whac -A- Mole. Please save some of his candy ass for Allen and the boys,after all,he is our bitch Julius !

  21. Lwood says: Sep 24, 2010 11:16 AM

    @bearsfan what are you smoking? I’m a Bears fan too, but this one will be anything but easy, and if they do win, it will be in the vein of the Lions victory, something weird that could go either way.

  22. BrentFavre says: Sep 24, 2010 11:18 AM

    “Hauschild says:
    September 24, 2010 9:53 AM
    Peppers against “Short Arms”???
    OUCH!!!

    LOL. Coming from the guy who used to regularily complain Ted didn’t spend first round draft picks on Olineman. Hyp-o-crite.
    I think someone’s angry Favre isn’t doing so hot, aye?

  23. CanadianVikingFan says: Sep 24, 2010 11:21 AM

    Jay Cuntler is going to pull a Favre.

  24. Emoney says: Sep 24, 2010 11:24 AM

    Wow its amazing how cocky bears fans get for beating an overrated cowboys team and getting help from the refs against the lions. The packers will show you Monday night why they’re the favorites to win the north, the conference, and the super bowl this year. The packers will obviously lose a few games this year, but not against a shaky bears team. The only reason the bears look good against the run is because everyone passes so easily on them. Their secondary sucks. And to the genius who said finley will get lit up, you obviously don’t pay attention. NOBODY can stop him. He’s a freak. He’ll embarrass Urlacher and your entire secondary. Double him, and then a wide receiver will get man coverage. And you can’t cover Jennings or Driver with man coverage. Keep dreaming though bears fans. You’re almost as bad as Viking fans.
    What next? The lions win a game and now their fans think they can match up with the packers?

  25. Midway Monster says: Sep 24, 2010 11:31 AM

    I have to say I am very excited for this game since it is finally relevant for both sides. I am glad we get to play the Packers twice since everyone seems to gauge them as the standard for the NFC. Sorry Lovie, but having a ‘flexible line’ really doesnt ring dominating. Perhaps we can put the emphasis on the O line in next years draft/free agency and have a solid team all around. Let’s go Cutler, you just keep your head and we will be in this…

  26. Little Tommy says: Sep 24, 2010 11:43 AM

    We’ve got a fighting chance with Martz running the O. If Turner was there, he’d still be dropping Cutler back in the pocket, getting him killed, and running Forte off tackle. LOL

  27. TitletownUSA says: Sep 24, 2010 11:47 AM

    # Pervy XXX says: September 24, 2010 11:05 AM
    Peppers is going to smash Aaron”Prince Poppy Cock” Rodgers like he’s playing Whac -A- Mole. Please save some of his candy ass for Allen and the boys,after all,he is our bitch Julius !
    ——————————————————-Looks like your boy Brent is already smashed and ready to go on IR. Put up your rabbit ears in your trailer so you can watch your Viqueens go 0 and 3!!!!! Your in last place Billy Bob!

  28. DSC says: Sep 24, 2010 11:50 AM

    # Pervy XXX says: September 24, 2010 11:05 AM
    Peppers is going to smash Aaron”Prince Poppy Cock” Rodgers like he’s playing Whac -A- Mole. Please save some of his candy ass for Allen and the boys,after all,he is our bitch Julius !
    _________________________________
    What an intelligent post Pervy, you sound so smart.
    This game should be really good, I can see the game going either way. If the Bears O Line doesn’t show up though it could be over early.

  29. Midway Monster says: Sep 24, 2010 12:18 PM

    @Emoney
    Sure pal. I think I saw one outlandish comment by a Bears fan so far. There are more Viking fans talking crap than anything. I guess you were just looking for an excuse to open your mouth and go on your little rant. Since we are comparing opponents that was a real solid win over effing Buffalo for crying out loud. Dipsh*t.
    To the guy who made the comment about containing Rogers opposite Peppers side you are spot on. I hope the Bears took Rogers ability to scrammble into account and plan on keeping the DEs out wide. Man I hope this game is epic:)

  30. BringinTheWood!Son says: Sep 24, 2010 12:19 PM

    The Packer main concern will be double moves with all the quick throws Chicago put on tape last week. That won’t be a problem if the Packers continue their sack attack against a porous Bears line though. This should be a route cause the packers are better at nearly every position but it is a rivalry game so it might be closer than expected. If I were a Bears fan I’d be worried, Rodgers and the offense finally put it together and played to their capabilities in the second half last week. Look for that to carry over, as A Rodge stays perfect against his drunken buddy. Go PACK!
    Green Bay 38
    Chicago 20

  31. mrcmos says: Sep 24, 2010 12:20 PM

    Julius Peckers stats so far this year is one , count it, ONE tackle that also was a sack. Not really a game changer.
    Gift against the Kittens and good win against an extremely overated CryGirls team.
    Can’t wait! I guess that’s why they play the games.
    27-24 Pack…Book It!

  32. BringinTheWood!Son says: Sep 24, 2010 12:21 PM

    Cutler throw atleast three picks……..Mark it Dude!

  33. Philtration says: Sep 24, 2010 12:25 PM

    # MikeL says: September 24, 2010 9:20 AM
    Bears suck and are lucky to be sitting at 2-0. Go Packers, even though I dislike them also
    ====================================
    So being ranked the # 1 defense in the league against the run (28 yards per game), having the 5th rated offense (385 yards per game) and a QB that has the 3rd most passing yards, the 2nd most TDs and has the # 1 passer rating in the NFL with just 1 INT. is all just luck right?
    Do you even watch football or do you make your picks based on the color of the team’s helmets?

  34. Pervy XXX says: Sep 24, 2010 12:36 PM

    ManTittytownUSA says:. Put up your rabbit ears in your trailer so you can watch your Viqueens go 0 and 3!!!!!
    ————————————————–
    What are those trailer things you talk of? Must be a WI thing…
    DSC says:What an intelligent post Pervy, you sound so smart.
    ————————————————–
    We will see if you have any brains doucher…
    If the input voltage to an ac circuit has the form DVin(t) = (50 V) sin( [230 rad/s] t) and the total impedance magnitude for the rest of the circuit is Ztotal = 2.3 kW, then what is the rms current in the circuit?

  35. packrulzm says: Sep 24, 2010 12:53 PM

    I’ve got a feeling that this is the game that the Packers offense has been waiting for. Look for Finley to run right through the most OVER-RATED linebacker in history (Urlacher I’m looking at you!). Cutler throws at least 2 picks and the Pack wins by 10.

  36. Charles Wood says: Sep 24, 2010 1:08 PM

    The Packers have one of the most underrated O-Lines in the NFL. Clifton is the weak link but that’s about to nulify itself with the insertion of the rookie Bulaga. Bulaga is solid. College- solid as long as he plays his position. Wells- above average Center. Sitton- a beast… NEVER gets beat. Taucher- above average again now that the rust has fallen. Brandon Jackson is a good pass protector and ball catcher. Crabtree= the best blocking TE in the NFC North. If we have to chip Peppers with either, so be it. Rodgers should have a monster night.
    On defense… our pass rush so far is second to NOBODY. We lead the league in sacks because Pickett and Raji eat up blockers. Raji can even get to the QB. PLUS- we just added Mike Neal and of course Cullen Jenkins can play the game one handed. I didn’t even mention the LBs, Pro Bowl Safety or the 2009 DPOTY??
    Green Bay 34
    Chicago 20

  37. Canned Gravy says: Sep 24, 2010 1:10 PM

    First off, these games are always close for at least the first half.
    This game will not be a blowout on either side. There will be mismatches defensively for both teams all night….whoever hits on those will win the game.
    Finley getting shut down is a joke. He’s probably the freakiest specimen at TE since Tony Gonzalez joined the league. There are very few LB’s that can keep up with Finley speed-wise, and his height matchup goes without saying. I hope Urlacher has got him all night.
    The comment about Mike Martz being Mr. Dynamic and adapting to everything he’ll see Monday night is quite possibly one of the funniest things ever entered here. If that were the case, Mr. Martz would be employed on a much more regular basis, and by better teams, and he wouldn’t be working for a guy whose head is up against a gun held by the GM right now. The bottom falls out on the Bears this season and both Martz and Lovie are out on the street.
    Pack 34 Bears 27

  38. SJ Apollo says: Sep 24, 2010 1:26 PM

    “So being ranked the # 1 defense in the league against the run (28 yards per game), having the 5th rated offense (385 yards per game) and a QB that has the 3rd most passing yards, the 2nd most TDs and has the # 1 passer rating in the NFL with just 1 INT. is all just luck right?”
    Keep in mind, they’ve played two weeks and one of those games was a loss against Detroit. This is the same team that four weeks ago, people were predicting would go 4-12. You can’t really judge anything about a team from September. You just hope your team doesn’t dig itself into too much of a hole (cough… Vikings). If we get into weeks 7 or 8 and Cutler keeps playing at a high level and Martz continues to fool opposing defenses, then you have firmer ground to stand on. Until then remember that until he consistently proves otherwise, Cutler is still Rex Grossman 2.0.

  39. steamrod says: Sep 24, 2010 1:37 PM

    I don’t understand what world most of you are living in. Did any of you actually watch the Bears/Lions game? Both teams were god awful and the Bears only won on a technicality not because they were the better team.
    Same story with the Cowboys, another god awful team and the Bears barely beat them too.
    On the other hand, the Packer’s beat the Bills and Eagles. The Bills didn’t play that great, hands down. As for the Eagles, everyone seems to want to jump on the Michael Vick bandwagon and claim how great he is. But the Packers beat them. So either the Packers handily beat a very good team or the Eagles aren’t that good. Your pick.

  40. backdapack10 says: Sep 24, 2010 1:39 PM

    come on Einstein is waiting for an answer…he has more trolling to do, dontcha know.

  41. Canned Gravy says: Sep 24, 2010 1:40 PM

    Pervy XXX says:
    September 24, 2010 12:36 PM
    If the input voltage to an ac circuit has the form DVin(t) = (50 V) sin( [230 rad/s] t) and the total impedance magnitude for the rest of the circuit is Ztotal = 2.3 kW, then what is the rms current in the circuit?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Silly, Perv. Showing us that you can copy and paste questions from the electrical engineer’s test you took and failed 11 times over the last 5 years doesn’t make you anymore wise involving football discussions.
    Try this instead:
    If Brett Favre rolls to his right at 13 MPH, and then throws a pass across his body at 44 MPH….how fast is the ball travelling when it is intercepted??
    A) 44 MPH
    B) 57 MPH
    C) 25 MPH
    D) All of the above, because no one cares and Favre is washed up.
    Now go downstairs to your room and get a lightbulb to work with some wires and a Yukon Gold potato….you’re wasting the time and efforts of guys who actually know football. Geek.

  42. smarterthanyou says: Sep 24, 2010 1:41 PM

    @ all Packers fans…even without captain egotistical, you all still blindly make claims about the quality of your team. Monday night will say a whole lot about both teams. I love the predictions though. Everyone bases their “premonitions” on what happened last year. The Bears were in a completely different offense, and for the most part a different D. Please don’t use that crap tag of over-rated on Urlacher. You know better.
    I don’t care who the Packers have on what side of the ball. This game is about match-ups and how they are exploited. I see both teams matching up pretty well, so it’s going to come down to coaching and execution. Period.
    Putting a rookie on the field to match up with Peppers is moronic. Please tell me that the Pack will run the ball with backups and full backs on a D that is allowing an average of 1.7 per carry.
    One more thing. If anyone is overrated right now, it’s the Pack. On Monday, we’ll all know who stands where.

  43. Pervy XXX says: Sep 24, 2010 2:06 PM

    OK DCS & Canned Man Cream……
    I should of known that was way over a Packer fans head….something more on your level…
    If Packer fan Buford from Boscobel has a Dodge Ram 1500 with 3 average WI girls in the back,how many C-130’s would it take to airlift the truck??

  44. Other Bears says: Sep 24, 2010 2:11 PM

    I hope that the Bears and Packers can pull away from the Vikings and Lions throughout the whole year. It’s been forever since the Bears and Packers were both relevant, and even though it’s entirely possible that they both won’t be (it’s only been two games, people), it’s something to get excited about. As a Bears fan, my hate for the Packers is just about the rivalry. It’s not real hate, because with the history of both teams and the rivalry, there’s a level of respect for them.
    Now the Vikings are a bunch of lowlife, worthless, Ps.O.S. who I would LOVE to see go 0-16 (and Brett get bones broken). The Lions have never been relevant, and if they do become relevant (which it looks like is happening), it will definitely add more excitement to the NFC North. There’s no hate for them, because there’s never been a reason for it.
    I can’t wait for Monday night, and I’m rooting for the Bears. I think it will be a great game, but I’m not going to try to claim that the Bears have some sort of advantage. I don’t share Lovie’s blind optimism.
    I told myself I’d try not to take the season too seriously because as I get older, priorities change, but if the Bears keep winning, I won’t be able to keep from getting sucked back in! …and I won’t be complaining.

  45. Charles Wood says: Sep 24, 2010 2:20 PM

    Canned Gravy says:
    September 24, 2010 1:40 PM
    Try this instead:
    If Brett Favre rolls to his right at 13 MPH, and then throws a pass across his body at 44 MPH….how fast is the ball travelling when it is intercepted??
    A) 44 MPH
    B) 57 MPH
    C) 25 MPH
    D) All of the above, because no one cares and Favre is washed up.
    Now go downstairs to your room and get a lightbulb to work with some wires and a Yukon Gold potato….you’re wasting the time and efforts of guys who actually know football. Geek.
    ————————————————
    NOW THAT WAS F-!NG FUNNY! But I choose E) None of the above. Brent can only run 7.7 mph and the ball is picked off so fast we cannot possibly calculate its rate of speed.
    Here’s a question Pervy:
    If Jerod Allen bull rushes Bryan Bulaga with approx. 32 p.s.i and then decreases torque by 16.4 Newton Metres when applying a feeble spin move- how long is his mullet?
    A.) 52 cm
    B.) 355.6 mm
    C.) 12 in
    D.) None of the above. The cattle roper is so stunned by the sight of Bulaga’s crocodile stubs that his mullet falls out, leaving him bald and depressed at midfield.

  46. shaggytoodle says: Sep 24, 2010 2:21 PM

    bearsfan says:
    September 24, 2010 9:48 AM
    Bears will win surprisingly easy. Martz is a master at exposing weaknesses and adjusting on the fly.
    ________________________________
    I disagree, they couldn’t even easily win against Detroit, and an overrated Dallas team. I think GB wins 24-17.

  47. SJ Apollo says: Sep 24, 2010 2:28 PM

    “We will see if you have any brains doucher…
    If the input voltage to an ac circuit has the form DVin(t) = (50 V) sin( [230 rad/s] t) and the total impedance magnitude for the rest of the circuit is Ztotal = 2.3 kW, then what is the rms current in the circuit?”
    Yeah, I don’t see how this constitutes brains, it’s an area of expertise. A doctor might not be able to replace a head gasket, but that doesn’t mean his mechanic is smarter than him. If DSC worked as an electrician, then this might be an appropriate test of knowledge – at least within that field, but it has nothing to do with being able to observe Pervy’s lack of wit.

  48. shaggytoodle says: Sep 24, 2010 2:35 PM

    Whomever wins Monday nite it will be interesting to see if they stay close, it will come down to the last game of the season for them at GB.

  49. Pervy XXX says: Sep 24, 2010 2:36 PM

    Other Bears says: It’s been forever since the Bears and Packers were both relevant, and even though it’s entirely possible that they both won’t be
    ===================================
    …isn’t that the truth!!…..
    Other Bears says:Now the Vikings are a bunch of lowlife, worthless, Ps.O.S. who I would LOVE to see go 0-16 (and Brett get bones broken).
    ————————————————–
    Tell us how you really feel! LOL Jealousy and success does breed hate…

  50. Pervy XXX says: Sep 24, 2010 2:46 PM

    He cut the mullet doucher…try again
    I swear my IQ goes down 40 points just being on a Packer/Bear thread. If God gave the Earth an enema,the syringe would be inserted in Green Bay…

  51. packers4life says: Sep 24, 2010 2:49 PM

    I don’t think Bear fans have really much to brag about yet. While they did beat the Cowboys, which is a big win for them, they barely beat Detroit and were pretty lucky to escape with the win there. The Lions put up a pretty damn good fight and had Calvin Johnson held onto the ball, the Bears would be easily 1-1.
    Same thing is said for my Packers. Them beating Philly in Week 1 is huge but they beat a hopeless Bills team last week.
    However, whoever comes out as the winner on MNF will be making a statement, whether it’s the Packers or the Bears….

  52. ACS2 says: Sep 24, 2010 3:00 PM

    Pervy XXX says:
    September 24, 2010 2:46 PM
    I swear my IQ goes down 40 points just being on a Packer/Bear thread.
    ———–
    Negative IQs are impossible, but nice try. Although it would explain your particular brand of idiocy.

  53. Other Bears says: Sep 24, 2010 3:03 PM

    Pervy – Jealousy? Of what? Your zero superbowl appearances in the last 30+ years?

  54. Charles Wood says: Sep 24, 2010 3:06 PM

    Pervy XXX says:
    September 24, 2010 2:46 PM
    He cut the mullet doucher…try again
    I swear my IQ goes down 40 points just being on a Packer/Bear thread. If God gave the Earth an enema,the syringe would be inserted in Green Bay…
    —————————————–
    Going back 40 IQ pts puts you further into the negative sweetie. btw- what exactly would a doucher be? the chick who douches or the nozzle on the bottle??
    Also, just wanted to let everyone know that Pervy is actually a 17 yr old, potty-mouthed, H.S. senior named Nancy. We spoke during the off season. Sorry babe- I couldn’t resist.

  55. Other Bears says: Sep 24, 2010 3:27 PM

    ACS2 – he said it goes down 40 points (i.e. from 110 to 70). He didn’t say it was negative 40. Don’t take the high-road on intelligence when you don’t even possess basic reading comprehension or math skills.

  56. Pervy XXX says: Sep 24, 2010 3:36 PM

    LOL @ you idiots…..
    So glad I can brighten up your days….must get boring in the parking ramp booth….

  57. Pervy XXX says: Sep 24, 2010 3:42 PM

    Which one of you idiots is going to make me a grilled cheese sandwich??? You Pack losers should at least get that right…
    @Other Bears…not jealous,I still have something to look forward to! You all should be jealous,I’m a SB virgin…..and I’m saving it for the right team…

  58. Duce000 says: Sep 24, 2010 3:42 PM

    Ppl be so dumb on this post just makes me laugh at the idiots. Both teams are playing good so it’s gona be a close game just like last year. It’s goin to come down to can the oline block for cutler n can the bears secondary hold up against Rodgers. Bein a bears fan I think it’s gona be a close game but I’m goin with my team of course to win it. 30-24

  59. Charles Wood says: Sep 24, 2010 3:50 PM

    Other Bears says:
    September 24, 2010 3:27 PM
    ACS2 – he said it goes down 40 points (i.e. from 110 to 70). He didn’t say it was negative 40. Don’t take the high-road on intelligence when you don’t even possess basic reading comprehension or math skills.
    ————————————————
    Other bears like koala or Care bears?? Everyone knows Pervy sports an Intelligence Quotient in the 0-12 area, so moving down 40 pts. would put him in the negative if possible. But since it apparently isn’t- this makes Pervy the equivolent of a talking amoeba. Quit wearing your ass for a hat.

  60. Pervy XXX says: Sep 24, 2010 4:04 PM

    Man Gravy says:Jesus, Perv…have some fun. It’s Friday for Christ’s sakes.
    ===================================
    I am!! just playing puter’ with you kids, got a busy weekend ahead. I’m joining Brad and Angelina in Green Bay this weekend….we are going to an orphanage to save 69 fat kids from their environment…

  61. Charles Wood says: Sep 24, 2010 4:41 PM

    Hey Pervy… when was the last time you got drunk and blew chunks??

  62. Charles Wood says: Sep 24, 2010 4:43 PM

    …cuz I hear he’s outa prison and looking for you. Just sayin’…

  63. Ambrose says: Sep 24, 2010 4:56 PM

    Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
    September 24, 2010 10:35 AM
    “they’re not really arms so much as stumps attached to his shoulders. they only hang down about as far as a normal person’s elbow.”
    ————————————————
    Wake up moron. Ever hear of Joe Thomas? Arm length 32.5. How about Jake Long? Arm length 32.875. And check this out from the combine: Posted: February 25th, 2010 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: 2010 NFL Scouting Combine, Bryan Bulaga, Robert Gallery, Russell Okung
    “The Day 1 measurables are in, and for offensive tackles, the number you want to keep your eye on is 33. It’s rare to have a starting tackle in the NFL with an arm length below 33 inches. At or above is considered good because at that length, pass rushers can’t gain as much leverage.
    The one tackle in this draft that many scouts and analysts eagerly awaited for his official arm length measurement was Iowa’s Bryan Bulaga.
    “The only question I have on him is his arm length,” said NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock earlier this week. “We all remember a few years ago when the kid from Iowa, Robert Gallery, went really early to Oakland. He had 32-inch arms, struggled on the outside, had to kick him on the inside. So Bulaga looks like he’s got short arms. We haven’t measured him yet. This week it will be interesting to see whether or not he’s 33 inches or more.”
    The waiting is over. Bulaga — Mayock’s No. 2-ranked tackle in the draft behind Oklahoma State’s Russell Okung, came in at 33 1/4. No more questions.
    Got it now moron? Stop posting…you’re too stupid to be here.

  64. ACS2 says: Sep 24, 2010 6:02 PM

    Other Bears says:
    September 24, 2010 3:27 PM
    ACS2 – he said it goes down 40 points (i.e. from 110 to 70). He didn’t say it was negative 40. Don’t take the high-road on intelligence when you don’t even possess basic reading comprehension or math skills.
    ————
    Hahahaha. No, it’s evident to all who read his posts–in Bears/Packers threads or elsewhere–that a 110 IQ is not possible. You, though, are probably in his neighborhood. Is your age higher than your IQ?

  65. ACS2 says: Sep 24, 2010 6:08 PM

    Charles Wood says:
    September 24, 2010 3:50 PM
    Other bears like koala or Care bears??
    ———
    Teddy Bears?
    Hair Bears?
    Goldilocks and the three bears?

  66. ACS2 says: Sep 24, 2010 6:10 PM

    Duce000 says:
    September 24, 2010 3:42 PM
    Ppl be so dumb on this post just makes me laugh at the idiots.
    ————–
    (Insert favorite irony demote here)

  67. Pervy XXX says: Sep 24, 2010 8:21 PM

    ACS2 & Ambrose…..proving that Packer fans are retarded…one post at a time….

  68. zangy says: Sep 24, 2010 8:29 PM

    Just a few things to say…
    The Packers passing offense matches up pretty well against a weak Bears secondary.
    The only reason the Bears have the #1 ranked run defense right now is because they were lucky enough to play a Jason Garrett led offense.
    The Pack have a top tier pass rush in the league right now, won’t say best for the same reason I can’t give the Bears credit for being the #1 run defense, which is going against a shaky at best Bears offensive line. Remember Bears fans, the Cowboys only have 1 legitimate pass rusher, Demarcus Ware. Green Bay has arguably the best guy in the league right now, CMIII, a damn good 2nd guy in Cullen Jenkins, and B.J. Raji has been a beast at collapsing the pocket on passing downs so far this season.
    Everything I typed above means absolutely nothing because it is Packers/Bears at Soldier Field. THE BEST RIVALRY IN FOOTBALL CONTINUES MONDAY NIGHT, IT IS GOING TO F*CKING AWESOME!!! CAN’T WAIT!!
    Go Pack Go
    Vikings Will Never Win Anything
    The Bears Still Suck

  69. intrepidbullitt says: Sep 24, 2010 10:17 PM

    “Bears coach Lovie Smith shockingly remains optimistic.”
    I guess this statement can only be attributed to someone who’s never followed the Bears.

  70. 55horses says: Sep 24, 2010 11:27 PM

    If Clifton hadn’t been legally but unnecessarily hit by Warren Yellow-Bellied Sapp Sucker, Clifton might be in better shape today.
    Yes, I know his problem is knees right now. But, if you’ve ever been in a bad accident in which your pelvis or back or legs were broken, you know all the rehab and then subsequent playing puts pressure on the joints that weren’t broken because you are forever compensating.
    I’ve said it for three decades now: if the Packers can’t/won’t win the Superbowl, I would root for the Lions to do it (because they haven’t) and then the Bears. I would rather have the Al-Queda Allahskins win the SB before the Vikings because of the Viking fans. They just have no respect for the game or other teams or other fans.

  71. Ambrose says: Sep 24, 2010 11:57 PM

    Pervy XXX says: September 24, 2010 8:21 PM
    ACS2 & Ambrose…..proving that Packer fans are retarded…one post at a time….
    ———————————————————————-
    Wow..that is one creative and original comeback. We’re still laughing at you…(not with you…AT you.)

  72. DWhitehurst says: Sep 25, 2010 2:32 AM

    With all the ardent “devotion” of our lutevisk-slurping, horned-swede Min-eh-SOE-duh crowd now suddenly being directed to the Twins, the only professional sports team that currently exists in the state (or so our Ole and Lena to the Nort’ are now claiming up der, yah noe?!), the attention of the NFL can finally return to a game and a rivalry in the NFC North that matters: the Bears-Packers…..a worthy rivalry filled with plenty of mutual hatred, yet seasoned with mutual respect as well (something NO one can say for any game against an extinct team formerly known as the Minnesota Vikings.) In fact, if anything has changed in my feelings for the Bears as a Packers fan, it is that I will ALWAYS root for the Bears when they play the Viqueens (unless of course the game would affect the Packers in the standings.)
    Anyways, now that we’re gratefully able to move beyond the annoying distractions of Ole and Lena to the Nort’, Monday night should be a great game! I think it will be a very close game, so close that I wouldn’t place a bet on who will win. Even if you aren’t a fan of either team, or are a fan of one or the other, unless you’re a Min-eh-SOE-dah native you cannot but admire a couple of the head-to-head matchups in the game which will be fun to watch:
    –Two great QB’s in Cutler and Rodgers (playing behind two shakey O-lines)
    –At least two great LB’s in Urlacher and Matthews (I said “at least”, as you could throw in Lance Briggs too, but A.J. Hawk isn’t his match)
    –Two great offenses and two above-average defenses
    –The offensive mind of Martz up against the defensive mind of Dom Capers with all the counter adjustments that we’ll watch throughout the game as if it were a chess match.
    Finally, just the two great traditions with two FAITHFUL (i.e., non fair-weathered) fan bases rooting for their teams, with both having something to be cheering about given the 2-0 starts of both teams.
    While I think most are touting the New Orleans-Atlanta game as “the game of the week”, for my money, this Bears-Packers game is it. Nice to be back to the rivalry again. Having said that,
    Go Packers!!!

  73. Ambrose says: Sep 25, 2010 7:40 AM

    Pervy XXX says: September 24, 2010 8:21 PM
    ACS2 & Ambrose…..proving that Packer fans are retarded…one post at a time….
    ————————————————————————
    And somehow you’re the douche that keeps getting kicked off this site. Hmmm.

  74. Pervy XXX says: Sep 25, 2010 9:26 AM

    Ambrose says:And somehow you’re the douche that keeps getting kicked off this site. Hmmm
    ===================================
    What can I say Ambrosypalm? I get let back because I’m ah …sortof a big deal…
    Bears vs. Packers rivalry has been dried up for years…and at 2-0 both it is still as irrelevant as always. Now if you were 10-0 both,maybe a big deal…but that would never happen..lol

  75. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Sep 25, 2010 10:37 AM

    Ambrose says: September 24, 2010 4:56 PM
    Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says:
    September 24, 2010 10:35 AM
    “they’re not really arms so much as stumps attached to his shoulders. they only hang down about as far as a normal person’s elbow.”
    ——————– ——————– ——–
    Wake up moron. Ever hear of Joe Thomas? Arm length 32.5.
    ***********************
    hey Ambrose, guess what, i don’t actually think that bulaga only has arms sticking out of his shoulders or that he can’t even scratch his stomach or that he dislocates his shoulder every time he tries to bump knucks with someone.
    did you ever have a sense of humor or were you just born 75 and cranky?

  76. Jabberwocky says: Sep 25, 2010 12:17 PM

    Why does everyone assume that the Bears “lost” against the Lions? There was still 30 seconds left in the game, and with their stud returners (Knox, Manning, and Hester would’ve been out there) they could’ve easily got in position to kick the game-winning FG. It happened against the Bears two years ago versus the Falcons. Plus, Megatron was too busy showing off after his “catch” that he forgot to complete the “catch.” Not a catch, so quit whining about a bad rule that every team has been burned by…including the Bears three freakin’ times!
    With that said, the game will come down to who’s O-line protects their QB better. Both running games will be near non-existent, so the defenses will be back in their zones defending against the pass. Underneath routes will be open all night. Special teams may play a role in the outcome as well.
    Bears 27
    Cheese 24

  77. Codebeard says: Sep 26, 2010 12:07 PM

    BringinTheWood!Son says:
    September 24, 2010 12:19 PM
    The Packer main concern will be double moves with all the quick throws Chicago put on tape last week. That won’t be a problem if the Packers continue their sack attack against a porous Bears line though. This should be a route cause the packers are better at nearly every position but it is a rivalry game so it might be closer than expected. If I were a Bears fan I’d be worried, Rodgers and the offense finally put it together and played to their capabilities in the second half last week. Look for that to carry over, as A Rodge stays perfect against his drunken buddy.

    Uh, hi, you do realize that the Bears went up against DeMarcus Ware and Marcus Spears last week, right? And gave them virtually nothing after about the third possession? The Packers pass rush is not going to be an issue; Green Bay has to bank on their secondary to contain the Chicago passing attack.
    Martz will not give the Packers enough time to even touch Cutler. Remember, it’s Martz’s offense that made Bulger look like a viable replacement for Kurt Warner, and we all know how ludicrous that assumption was.
    Rodgers is very dangerous, but if you’re looking at the second half last week being his revival, you might want to recognize that they were against the Buffalo friggin’ Bills.

  78. DSC says: Sep 26, 2010 5:06 PM

    # Pervy XXX says: September 24, 2010 8:21 PM
    ACS2 & Ambrose…..proving that Packer fans are retarded…one post at a time….
    ___________________
    WOW…..you can’t talk smack about your team so you run your mouth about nothing pertinent to football…….really….why dont you go talk smack on your personal blog…..wait no one will follow it?
    You are a classless clown and you are embarrassing yourself……

  79. Beer Cheese Soup says: Sep 27, 2010 3:15 AM

    Pervy says:
    If the input voltage to an ac circuit has the form DVin(t) = (50 V) sin( [230 rad/s] t) and the total impedance magnitude for the rest of the circuit is Ztotal = 2.3 kW, then what is the rms current in the circuit?
    ____________
    Okay, we get it. You don’t know anything about football.
    …or women.

  80. ACS2 says: Sep 27, 2010 9:50 AM

    Pervy XXX says:
    September 24, 2010 8:21 PM
    ACS2 & Ambrose…..proving that Packer fans are retarded…one post at a time….
    —————
    I thought you said you were quitting? Well, I’m glad you’re still around. When all else fails I can read one of your posts and instantly feel better.

  81. MrEffs420 says: Sep 27, 2010 1:07 PM

    55horses says:
    September 24, 2010 11:27 PM
    If Clifton hadn’t been legally but unnecessarily hit by Warren Yellow-Bellied Sapp Sucker, Clifton might be in better shape today.
    Yes, I know his problem is knees right now. But, if you’ve ever been in a bad accident in which your pelvis or back or legs were broken, you know all the rehab and then subsequent playing puts pressure on the joints that weren’t broken because you are forever compensating.
    I’ve said it for three decades now: if the Packers can’t/won’t win the Superbowl, I would root for the Lions to do it (because they haven’t) and then the Bears. I would rather have the Al-Queda Allahskins win the SB before the Vikings because of the Viking fans. They just have no respect for the game or other teams or other fans.
    ———————————————–
    hey now…don’t lump us all in with our worst specimens. those same ignorant fools you speak of are the same ones that are the fairweather bandwagon fans. nobody like em…fellow fans included.
    agree 100% with your take on clifton-sapp

  82. Jservo says: Sep 27, 2010 1:37 PM

    Okay….this is the one we need….to make believing this isn’t just a fluke. If we (da Bears) can pull this one off, maybe, just maybe we can roll ahead with some steam and believe a little more in ourselves. I am stressing though. GB is on point, and will be tonight, as this is for the leader position in the NFC North. Give em hell Boyz.

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