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Packers safety Nick Collins has post-game altercation with fan

The details are still sketchy and we’ve yet to see the video, but Packers safety Nick Collins reportedly got into some sort of an altercation with fans following Monday night’s loss to the Bears in Chicago.

According to FOX 6 in Milwaukee, Collins was “provoked by a Bears fan,” and Collins threw an object at the fan — possibly a roll of tape.  Collins reportedly was restrained by Packers receiver Donald Driver.

In the locker room, Collins said that the fan used a racial epithet, but Collins apologized to “all fans” for his conduct.

The incident was a fitting conclusion to a night in which the Packers officially racked up a franchise-high 18 penalties and made various other mistakes and misjudgments that delivered victory to Chicago in a game that Green Bay should have won.

I think we lost our composure out there,” Collins said after the game.

In Collins’ case, the ultimate sanction could be more than the 15-yard penalty called against him during the loss for unnecessary roughness.

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  1. dscjmc says: Sep 28, 2010 7:06 AM

    “delivered victory to Chicago in a game that Green Bay should have won.” Florio, you’re an idiot.

  2. Love_Boat_Scandal says: Sep 28, 2010 7:06 AM

    Pack should have won that game. The Bears are not that good of a team.

  3. Flipadelphia says: Sep 28, 2010 7:06 AM

    Yeah, that’s everyones excuse for getting in an “altercation”. If you say a fan used a racial epithet then it makes it ok to the rest of america.
    The honest truth is the fan was probably on him for being just being on the other team.
    Maybe you should talk to your lesbo QB Aaron Rodgers Degeneres about scoring a TD and then pointing into the crowd and pointing to his ass. It’s arrogance like that that stirs stuff up.
    We all know you want the whole city of Chicago in your ass Aaron.

  4. KrazyTrumpeter05 says: Sep 28, 2010 7:15 AM

    Enh, not a huge deal. He didn’t throw a punch or anything that could have really hurt someone. I know these guys are supposed to be professional, but the last thing you want to hear after a frustrating loss is some jackass fan of the opposing team hurl racial insults at you. Pretty sure 99% of us would have reacted as well, and probably with much less restraint.

  5. Tjackfan says: Sep 28, 2010 7:15 AM

    If it is true that the fan used a racial epithet, and threw an object, I wouldn’t have minded Collins going up there and beating him until he pissed himself. Nonetheless, it was entertaining watching both of those teams stumble over themselves. As a Vikings fan, I slept really well last night.

  6. midwest says: Sep 28, 2010 7:18 AM

    @dscjmc
    If you don’t think the Packers should have won that game, you don’t know football.

  7. minimafiaaj says: Sep 28, 2010 7:29 AM

    lol anyone see clay matthews crying. PACKERS TAKE THAT LOSS!!! haha

  8. kotapug says: Sep 28, 2010 7:34 AM

    I win is a win is that not what you pack fans tell every other person about there team? Plus your high power offense could only put up 17 points. Its one game so dont start all 300 posts making excuses, you played a poor game and lost . You still are the favorites to win the division . And thats not easy to type as I am a Vikes fan . But from a fans view it was a fun game to watch.

  9. dfeltz says: Sep 28, 2010 7:36 AM

    “Pack should have won that game. The Bears are not that good of a team” – Good teams win games they are suppose to either. What makes the Packers legit? Beating the Bills and surviving a second half against Vick?

  10. green man says: Sep 28, 2010 7:37 AM

    The disciplined well coached team should have won and did.
    And if Collins was called a N word he proved the fan was right by acting like one.

  11. Bigbluefan says: Sep 28, 2010 7:42 AM

    Melt down in the NFL stupid fouls the giants did it on Sunday cost them a win and it looks like the Pack did it last night.
    These guys worried about a lock out?

  12. bonafide says: Sep 28, 2010 7:44 AM

    dscjmc says:
    September 28, 2010 7:06 AM
    “delivered victory to Chicago in a game that Green Bay should have won.” Florio, you’re an idiot.
    _________
    He’s right. The Packers were the far better team last night. How can any Bear fan feel good about beating a team by only 3 points when that team shot themselves in the foot play after play the entire game?

  13. j-wil says: Sep 28, 2010 7:44 AM

    bears- worst 3-0 team ever, will come down to earth as the season goes on

  14. joetoronto says: Sep 28, 2010 7:44 AM

    Regardless of what the fan said, this was a boneheaded move by Collins.
    Your supposed to be a professional, start acting like one.

  15. turbodog says: Sep 28, 2010 7:45 AM

    Viking fans are only surpassed in their ignorance and foul behavior by Chicago Bear fans

  16. Other Bears says: Sep 28, 2010 7:46 AM

    “in a game that Green Bay should have won.” …in your certifiably non-expert opinion.
    Yes – the Packers made a lot of stupid mistakes, but so did the Bears. Just because fewer of the Bears mistakes weren’t penalties, somehow that means they weren’t the better team? So if you make a mistake, like a bad pass and the other team makes a mistake like a pass interference, the other team is better and should have won? My god, you people, and your stupidity is annoying!

  17. watters7 says: Sep 28, 2010 7:47 AM

    Collins should have kicked the fan in the bean bag.

  18. JimmySmithBlows says: Sep 28, 2010 7:48 AM

    You can’t be too suprised by this. With the off season rapes, drunken motorcycle rides and shootings at Lamblow.
    This team is out of control. The most undisciplined team on and off the field. And the offense….well, lets see what they can do against above average defenses.

  19. jackers252 says: Sep 28, 2010 7:48 AM

    “Racial epithet”
    Imagine that, something vulgur from a Bears fan.
    Stay classy, Chicago.

  20. Pack_Attack says: Sep 28, 2010 7:50 AM

    The Bears got 152 yards on the ground..in penalties. The refs need to let these guys play and MM needs to sit the worst.

  21. Macho Slice says: Sep 28, 2010 7:57 AM

    “The incident was a fitting conclusion to a night in which the Packers officially racked up a franchise-high 18 penalties and made various other mistakes and misjudgments that delivered victory to Chicago in a game that Green Bay should have won.”
    So what your saying is Green Bay should have won despite getting outplayed,outscored,outclassed,and just simply not getting the job done?Makes sense to a clown like Florio I guess.

  22. Nate_O says: Sep 28, 2010 7:59 AM

    dscjmc says:
    September 28, 2010 7:06 AM
    “delivered victory to Chicago in a game that Green Bay should have won.” Florio, you’re an idiot.
    Not really, pretty accurate statement IMO.

  23. bodhisattva says: Sep 28, 2010 8:00 AM

    djeg07 says:
    September 28, 2010 7:08 AM
    I EXPECT MUCH MORE OUTTA THIS GUY..REAL SHAME.
    Yeah? What do you think his stance is on all-caps?
    Packers are potentially wilting under the favourites tag.

  24. Calistin says: Sep 28, 2010 8:00 AM

    Classy Bear fans yelling racist remarks after they win.

  25. ken hawk says: Sep 28, 2010 8:00 AM

    What do you mean the better team doesn’t always win?
    Mike Florio. Super genius.
    Lions over Pack this Sunday!

  26. Fan_0f_Football says: Sep 28, 2010 8:01 AM

    Yet more solid examples of how classless this organization has become since TT took over and Favre left.

  27. Chapnasty. says: Sep 28, 2010 8:03 AM

    You know maybe, just maybe the Bears are a good team. For all intensive purposes they shut down Aaron Rogers, who is a top 5 QB in the league and played great defense when it mattered most. They also forced most of the penalties by mixing up blitz packages which led to more than a handful of false starts and holding calls. I swear football fans just aren’t that bright at times. Watch the actual game before making Jon Gruden type comments.

  28. Fan_0f_Football says: Sep 28, 2010 8:06 AM

    People still want to blame Favre for the Packers not winning a SB since 97? He’s gone but the same horribly timed defensive miscues are still there. The same horrible coaching adjustments (or lack there of) are still there. And the same horrible stupid penalties are there.
    Fact is, no matter who is QBing the Packers, they won’t win a SB until those other long standing problems are finally fixed.

  29. MACHINE GUN IBIZA says: Sep 28, 2010 8:16 AM

    That game should have been 30-10 Packers. They were done in by some bad calls and some self inflicted stupidity including Andy Reid-ish time management by McCarthy. Of course, the stupid challenge and letting them run out the clock before the field goal that ended the game were top of the list.

  30. Saintsarebest says: Sep 28, 2010 8:16 AM

    never see things like this going on with the saints.
    oh yea, can you say class? who dat!

  31. Floridacock says: Sep 28, 2010 8:17 AM

    What the hell was this guy doing in the locker room!?!? For that matter NO ONE, especially the press, should be allowed in the locker room for either team for 30 minutes after the game. We fans will wait for the propaganda.

  32. BEAR-A-HOLIC says: Sep 28, 2010 8:18 AM

    Bears should have won by more…Packers WAY TOO OVERRATED ! Cutler is the better QB…HE HAS NO O-LINE to speak of.

  33. ken hawk says: Sep 28, 2010 8:29 AM

    Penalties. Special teams. You forgot coaching Florio. Horrid waste of a timeout there at the end.
    Lions > Packers

  34. certaincoachditka says: Sep 28, 2010 8:33 AM

    Like the coaches say: If in doubt, argue with the fans.

  35. shaqter says: Sep 28, 2010 8:35 AM

    Chapnasty,
    It’s “for all intents and purposes”, not “intensive”.

  36. ninjapleazee says: Sep 28, 2010 8:35 AM

    race card always works as excuse for being an idiot

  37. Tdk24 says: Sep 28, 2010 8:35 AM

    The bears fan was probably just pissed that his team came out with those stupid uniforms during primetime.

  38. Matt S. says: Sep 28, 2010 8:38 AM

    Packers 2-1
    Vikings 1-2
    Congrats, now continue to STFU.

  39. BackToJail4Vick says: Sep 28, 2010 8:40 AM

    Thank God this didn’t happen in Philly. It would be the top story on every TV station, and Obama would be addressing the situation at noon.

  40. Hep says: Sep 28, 2010 8:42 AM

    Collins mentioned that the fan called him the “N” word. Very classy Chicago! It’s a little early to start freaking out over a loss like this. Take away the punt return and put 3 points on the board after the huge drive in the 3rd quarter and it’s a completely different ball game. But I’ll say this, Chicago played tough and come Jan 2nd, the game at Lambeau could be for the division.

  41. Skins23 says: Sep 28, 2010 8:46 AM

    “So what your saying is Green Bay should have won despite getting outplayed,outscored, outclassed,and just simply not getting the job done?Makes sense to a clown like Florio I guess.”
    Or to someone who actually watched the game and understands football… since the Pack dominated TOP, had 103 more yards than Chicago, more first downs, and generally played better.
    The Pack had 18 penalties and were still driving for the win before that fumble.
    Lucky win for the Bears, just like week 1. Don Banks also thinks so.

  42. Chicagojeff says: Sep 28, 2010 8:48 AM

    “Should have won”? What are you channeling a 7th grader Mike??
    Either you win the game or you lose the game.. cut this probably crap out. When the Bears go to Green Bay A Rodgers will have his shot to make a point. Until then.. to you and Don Banks at SI SCOREBOARD.
    The national media hate it when their predictions are tossed onto their keister.

  43. Ford Prefect says: Sep 28, 2010 8:53 AM

    I hate the race card. There may have been something said….but probably not. I hate how it is used so freely to cover up a lack of discipline. Nick Collins is a punk, always has been, and he is just showing all of us why he sucks on and off the field.
    Plus, it probably wasn’t anything that he hasn’t heard in Green Bay on his way home from practice. For those who have never been there…it is the absolute backwoods-ass, whitest, hillbilly city in the midwest. And, that is saying something.

  44. crazyguy says: Sep 28, 2010 8:58 AM

    First downs 21 GB 18 Chi
    Total yards 379 GB 276 Chi
    Total Plays 60 GB 48 Chi
    Time of Possession 35:49 GB 24:11 Chi
    This usually equals a win.
    Why they lost:
    18 Penalties 158 yards
    1 TD allowed via punt return (rookie punter)
    1 TO due to lack of discipline (Jones); the other TO don’t count, end of half hail mary.
    Chi had 5 first downs due to penalties (1 INT taken away because of it)
    Green Bay outplayed themselves. They weren’t outplayed. No discipline. Bad special teams play. And, in my opinion, bad coaching and a bad decision not to bring in another running back.
    Merry Christmas Bear’s fans. It won’t happen twice. I am glad we got this out of the way in week 3.

  45. jgreen1570 says: Sep 28, 2010 9:04 AM

    If this were coming from anyone other than a Bears fan, I would be skeptical. But I personally know Bears fans to be, in large part, the absolute scum of the earth. The treatment we received there at the 2006 NFC Championship game is still unparalleled by any other fanbase, and I attend a lot of away games. Terrible, no class, give-nfl-fans-a-bad-name losers describes a good portion of Bears fans, so racist does not surprise me at all.

  46. TwinCitiesTT says: Sep 28, 2010 9:11 AM

    Sober up before you post packer fans you sound like a bunch of idiots.. Are you glad you took off of work today?

  47. Sterling says: Sep 28, 2010 9:14 AM

    Chapnasty, you’re an idiot. The Bears”shut down Aaron Ro(d)gers”?? Rodgers completed 76% of his passes. (34/45 for over 300 yards passing). That’s not exactly shutting anybody down. The Packers defeated themselves. Too many penalties on offense while in the red zone, too many penalties on defense that kept Bears drives alive. The Bears didn’t earn the win so much as they had opportunities handed to them by the Packers, particularly when the Bears were on offense.
    Props, though, to Bears special teams (a perennial Packer weakness) and Brian Urlacher, who played really well.
    Fan_of_Football, you got it right. When Favre was in Green Bay, we saw the same problems on the team we’re seeing now, but Favre got blamed for every loss. Rodgers is in command now, but even a great performance by him wasn’t enough to overcome these longstanding issues on the team.

  48. BigBear123 says: Sep 28, 2010 9:14 AM

    Bears scared the Packers O-line into 10 false starts. That series on the goal line was priceless.
    Bears punched the game ending fumble out, that wasn’t a fluke.
    Win is a win bucko.

  49. imongo says: Sep 28, 2010 9:16 AM

    Both teams are crap..Cutler is awful.

  50. MuskyHunter2542 says: Sep 28, 2010 9:16 AM

    BEAR-A-HOLIC says:
    September 28, 2010 8:18 AM
    Bears should have won by more…Packers WAY TOO OVERRATED ! Cutler is the better QB…HE HAS NO O-LINE to speak of
    This is one of the worst posts of the year. Clearly someone who doesnt know football. Only the Bores.

  51. Murgen says: Sep 28, 2010 9:16 AM

    That may have been the worst GB performance I’ve seen…we’ll….ever as far as mistakes and it’s fact for penalties.
    GB better get their shiz straight. Why I think predicting SB favorites before the midway point in a season is stupid.
    At least the Trolls are happy.

  52. lpdmax says: Sep 28, 2010 9:22 AM

    Bears outgained Packers 352-226 last year, had 4 turnovers to 0 by Green Bay and only lost by 6. Were they the better team last year? No. The better teams find ways to win. Plain and simple. Stop using your own mistakes as reasons why you are better.

  53. Laser Show says: Sep 28, 2010 9:28 AM

    that’s some good, old-fashioned racism, there, green man. you must be from chicago.
    i see how you would describe nick collins. how would you describe the fan who used the word? enlightened?
    choke, you little goon.

  54. In1Ear&OutYourMother says: Sep 28, 2010 9:28 AM

    @ BONERFIDE “He’s right. The Packers were the far better team last night. How can any Bear fan feel good about beating a team by only 3 points when that team shot themselves in the foot play after play the entire game?”
    I don’t know, ask the Saints. A 3 point win after a team continuously pissed down their own leg seemed to work out ok for them. (Vikings 2010 NFC championship Game)

  55. wrath4771 says: Sep 28, 2010 9:30 AM

    The Packers did give that game away, but give credit to the Bears for being able to take advantage of the Packers miscues. The Bears are a better team than anyone expected. I get what Aaron Rodgers did pissed off Bears fans, but that’s dumb to think what Rodgers did makes it OK to use a racial slur against another player. Come on Chicago, you guys are much more creative than that. Using racial slurs makes you guys look as dumb as Vikings fans.

  56. Ford Prefect says: Sep 28, 2010 9:30 AM

    @Canned Gravy….what porous backfield are you speaking of? The one that has only given up 567 in 3 games? Or maybe it’s the one that has given up only 7 explosive plays on the season? Or maybe it’s the defense that has only given up 38 points on the season, tied for second best in the league? I think the word you are looking for is “stout”.

  57. Majik Bullet says: Sep 28, 2010 9:30 AM

    bonafide says:
    September 28, 2010 7:44 AM
    dscjmc says:
    September 28, 2010 7:06 AM
    “delivered victory to Chicago in a game that Green Bay should have won.” Florio, you’re an idiot.
    _________
    He’s right. The Packers were the far better team last night. How can any Bear fan feel good about beating a team by only 3 points when that team shot themselves in the foot play after play the entire game?
    __________________
    It’s funny how Pack fans blast Viking fans for saying the Vikes should have won the NFCC game last year because they dominated the game, but yet us the same logic in saying GB should have won last night. Oh, the hypocrisy that is Packer fans.
    For the record, the Packers should have lost that game just as the Vikings desrved to lose theirs. The Packers were not the better team last night, if they were they would have found a way to overcome their 18 penalties, or just not commit them in the first place.

  58. Ralph says: Sep 28, 2010 9:34 AM

    So, what your saying, is if the Bears and the Refs weren’t on the field, the Packers win that game…. maybe?
    The Packers did nothing to deserve a win.
    For me, the telling point was when the talking heads were discussing Hester’s demise as a return man actually being more of a case of teams learning not to kick to him… The Packers didn’t get that memo, I guess. Smart move. Then they were so arrogant they kept doing it. Worked out well, didn’t it?
    The Packers will also lose to the Lions this year. They’re not the great SuperBowl team everyone wants them to be.

  59. green man says: Sep 28, 2010 9:36 AM

    Maybe it was a GB yelling at Collins for his stupid after the whistle body slam, meh probably not. That one just got lost in the sea of yellow last night…

  60. SaintsBucsPanthersSUKK says: Sep 28, 2010 9:39 AM

    Calvin Johnson should call Collins a nig jig next week on the field & see what happens. Most likely nothing. But if it was Tony Scheffler…?!?!

  61. PFTiswhatitis says: Sep 28, 2010 9:47 AM

    Calling someone an ass is hadly racial. What happened to being a professional? I hope he is fined $50k

  62. FinFan68 says: Sep 28, 2010 9:49 AM

    The Bears did what they had to do to win the game. The Packers killed themselves with untimely penalties but the ones they had on their own 1 yard line don’t really count since there was no yardage or down loss…just a few extra penalties in the box score. Packer fans can complain all they want but the Bears do have a team that is capable of beating anyone in the league. The Packers have been annointed Superbowl contenders by their fans and media but they need to play better to get there. Right now the Bears are in the driver’s seat and the Packers are in second place. Their collective arrogance will cost them this year along with their undisciplined play

  63. JimmySmith says: Sep 28, 2010 9:52 AM

    What ever you do Packer fans, don’t start acting the Viking fans and pointing to statistics or bad calls on the field as an excuse.
    Face it, the game was there for the taking and bone headed play after bone headed play sunk the Packers. Bone headed challenge on McCarthy’s part cost us a time out when we really could have used one at the end of the game.
    The challenge will be if the team and coach really use this as a lesson on what not to do. Its bad enough to choke last night, making it your team legacy (Vikings anyone?) would be a crime.

  64. MetallicaDoug says: Sep 28, 2010 9:54 AM

    It’s ridiculous to think the Bears didn’t deserve that win. Since when is it ok to commit that many penalties and win? Aaron Rodgers may have deserved to win that game. He only created one of them. It’s ok though, I’m pretty sure he got MVP. Don’t bother telling me I’m not a football fan cause the Bears deserved that win. I just wanted to point out that Peppers had a great time screwing up the offense and special teams.
    Wins are wins, 3-0!

  65. Mad-town says: Sep 28, 2010 10:02 AM

    Ah, I love bears fans, you provide us with hours of entertainment here in the hinterlands. Hey, Packers made tons of mental errors and gave up running way too early-bears took advantage. Fellow Packers fans, quit whining here. Not a big believer in the “should’ve won the game” arguments made from time to time by fans in general. Take the medicine, let the cesspool fans from below us enjoy the afterglow. We’ll see where they are in 3 months, 5 days from now (or January 2nd for the bears fans in attendance).

  66. DuluthFan says: Sep 28, 2010 10:10 AM

    MACHINE GUN IBIZA…you wrote, “That game should have been 30-10 Packers. They were done in by some bad calls and some self inflicted stupidity including Andy Reid-ish time management by McCarthy. Of course, the stupid challenge and letting them run out the clock before the field goal that ended the game were top of the list. ”
    I bet you were one of those Packer Fans calling out Vikings Fans last Feb when they said, “That game should have been 30-10 Vikings. They were done in by some bad calls and some self inflicted stupidity including Andy Reid-ish time management by Childress. Of course, the stupid challenge and letting them run out the clock before the field goal that ended the game were top of the list. ” Or at least something to that effect. Pot callign the kettle black (not the N-word).
    Sit and spin on your loss, chedderwurst.

  67. onlineinsite says: Sep 28, 2010 10:13 AM

    Wait, “Should have won”? As a Vikes fan, yeah we physically outplayed N.O. by a mile last season but mentally dropped the ball (literally and figuratively) too many times. That lack of mental discipline outweighed all of the other things we did well which equaled a loss. N.O. didn’t make those mental errors and won the game – there’s no “Should have won” about it. Same last night. The Bears were more disciplined mentally and won the game. Accept it and move on Packer fans. The better team on any given day is the one with more points at game’s end, as much as we’d love to rationalize otherwise.

  68. NY COWBOY says: Sep 28, 2010 10:15 AM

    Being a life long Cowboys fan, you learn to swallow losses you “shouldn’t” have. Outplaying a team in a few important categories doesn’t mean you should have won. My team is 1-2 because of mental lapses. By no means should they have won against the Redskins or Bears. They mentally sh*t the bed, and for that reason they deserved their losses.
    So Packers fans, swallow it.

  69. DuluthFan says: Sep 28, 2010 10:15 AM

    crazyguy…you wrote, “First downs 21 GB 18 Chi
    Total yards 379 GB 276 Chi
    Total Plays 60 GB 48 Chi
    Time of Possession 35:49 GB 24:11 Chi
    This usually equals a win.
    Why they lost:
    18 Penalties 158 yards
    1 TD allowed via punt return (rookie punter)
    1 TO due to lack of discipline (Jones); the other TO don’t count, end of half hail mary.
    Chi had 5 first downs due to penalties (1 INT taken away because of it)
    Green Bay outplayed themselves. They weren’t outplayed. No discipline. Bad special teams play. And, in my opinion, bad coaching and a bad decision not to bring in another running back.
    Merry Christmas Bear’s fans. It won’t happen twice. I am glad we got this out of the way in week 3.”
    This is eerily similar to what some bonehead Vikings fans said lasy Feb (and I am a Vikings fan who DID NOT go there). Pot calling the kettle black (not the N-word), eh chedderwurst?

  70. dweezle says: Sep 28, 2010 10:19 AM

    Chapnasty:
    Tough time with the King’s english? “intensive purposes” I believe that should be “intents & purposes”
    Overall:
    I think the Pack should have been on NBC @10:30 central as “The Not Ready for Prime Time Players.” Special teams, self-control issues and balll in the wrong arm Mr. Jones-all things we stress in 7th grade football…..

  71. INISHUL says: Sep 28, 2010 10:30 AM

    @chapnasty
    “intesive purpouse”
    HA. Go ahead, trademark that.
    It sounds real cool.
    In fact, all the kids are saying it these days.
    For real, For real: It’s laughable, you just sound unintellegent.
    How long have you been improperly using that phrase?
    Stupid ignorant cowboys fan. Im actually embarrased for you.

  72. cowboys1 says: Sep 28, 2010 10:33 AM

    NY COWBOY you know my pain

  73. Contra says: Sep 28, 2010 10:42 AM

    Love_Boat_Scandal says:
    September 28, 2010 7:06 AM
    Pack should have won that game. The Bears are not that good of a team.
    ——
    HaHAHAHA awwwww there there, mommy must have a warm bottle of STFU ready for you!
    The Packer excuses come flying in!
    I believe there are now more Packer excuses than there were penalty yards HaHaHa!

  74. madmike77 says: Sep 28, 2010 10:44 AM

    Packers should have won, but if you have absolutely no run game it makes things a lot tougher.
    The Packers are great at ripping off huge chunks of yards but the offense gets worse the closer it gets to the opponents’ goal-line.

  75. alphamail says: Sep 28, 2010 10:49 AM

    No excuses here – Packers lost because of their own sloppy play.
    (A Viking fan would blame the refs.)
    I didn’t mind the effort and heart behind the penalties, but my God, 19 is way too many.
    Congrats to the Bears, for now.

  76. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Sep 28, 2010 10:50 AM

    the pckers needed to get off to a really fast start cuz they’ve been in the cake part of their schedule. you have to worry about rodgers getting thru the season behind that line and with no running game and with ted thompson being such a gay vampire.

  77. Philtration says: Sep 28, 2010 10:56 AM

    # bonafide says: September 28, 2010 7:44 AM
    The Packers were the far better team last night. How can any Bear fan feel good about beating a team by only 3 points when that team shot themselves in the foot play after play the entire game?
    ==================================
    Poor babies.
    Typical Packer fan response.
    Like the Cowboys you never lose. You are cheated, the other team was lucky, the refs blew it for you…..
    Cry me a river cheesedicks.
    Last night only showed that the Packers are one dimensional, undisciplined and sloppy.
    Teams like that do not go to the Super Bowl no matter how much they whine for it.
    They lost.
    Enjoy your “More yards but less points” moral victory.
    I was having a hard time hating Aaron Rogers until he acted like a classless jag off last night.
    He is a very good QB but he is starting to drink the Aaron Rogers Kool-Aid and I hope he enjoyed he trip back to Trailer Park City.

  78. Steeleheader says: Sep 28, 2010 11:00 AM

    Should’ve, would’ve, could’ve…..didn’t.
    Pack fans, just move on. Working yourself into a lather doesn’t make the “1” in the loss column change.

  79. Philtration says: Sep 28, 2010 11:07 AM

    Funny how the cheesedicks have conveniently forgotten how the Bears dominated every category in last years opener in Green Bay yet the Packers still won the game.
    I did not hear anyone crying that the Bears should have won that game.
    Instead it was more of the same “Packer magic” nonsense and you claimed that they won because they were the better team.
    “The good teams find a way to win no matter what!”
    Remember that you hypocritical hillbillies?

  80. AnimalMother42 says: Sep 28, 2010 11:10 AM

    A bunch of Carl Gerbschmidt’s…..(google it if you dont know)….Packer’s running game is Charles Barkley “Turrible” and their pass defense was interferring as much as they were defending….they could have gotten more holding calls made on them for Mark Tauscher’s performance vs. Julius Peppers….did anybody else notice how much Mark Tauscher’s body resembled a sack of wet laundry or a chubby pear?

  81. Chgofan3 says: Sep 28, 2010 11:10 AM

    I don’t see how some people are saying that the Bears got ‘lucky’, because of Packers’ penalties. Some of that was lack of discipline on the Packers (the unnecessary roughness on the tackle of Forte was a prime example of lack of discipline), but most of it was due to the Bears offense and defense forcing the issue.
    When Rodgers throws the ball up deep to Jennings and the other team is called for pass interference, do Packers fans say that the Packers ‘got lucky’? No, they say that Rodgers forced the issue and the other team was forced to interfere to stop a big play.
    That’s what happened on a couple of the PI calls against (1) Woodson and (2) the rookie DB in the 4th QTR. There’s no guarantee that Collins intercepts that pass if Bennett doesn’t get molested by the Packers’ DB. Same with the other INT earlier in the game. If Cutler is not clocked in the head by the Packers’ guy’s helmet, he may not throw that pass so badly and the pass doesn’t get intercepted.
    The false start and holding penalties on the Packers were also due to the Bears D forcing the issue. We didn’t get to Rodgers for any sacks, but we applied pressure and sometimes sacks were averted by the Pack OL by holding.
    That said, without that Hester punt return (his 2nd great return of the night, his first also heading for a TD without the tackle by the punter), the Bears lose. Our offense was not sharp and we had no running game again. And our short yardage game is atrocious. Granted, a better pass to Desmond Clark on that 4th and 1 and we score a TD there to make it 14-10 without the Hester punt return.
    What the Bears need to fix is their short yardage defense against the Pack. Almost every time the Pack had 3rd and short (1-4 yards), they went to the slant pattern to the slot WR. And the Bears couldn’t stop it. That said, the Bears did a fantastic job of not giving up the big play to the Packers, which is a big part of their game. The Bears D tackled great and kept the Pack from hardly any YAC. That was key.

  82. AnimalMother42 says: Sep 28, 2010 11:14 AM

    I wouldn’t say the packers are great at too much right now….not a ton of athletes on offense right now….Jermichael Finley/Jennings…that’s it.

  83. LBPACKFAN says: Sep 28, 2010 11:19 AM

    No excuses coming from me… 18 penalties…we deserve to lose.
    Before any Vikes fan begin running their mouths…again…the Pack deserve to lose that game…just like you did vs the Saints in NFCCG last year.

  84. mawkus says: Sep 28, 2010 11:20 AM

    @DuluthFan you said it best. Packers weren’t outplayed, they beat themselves. I’m a packer fan for life but they didn’t deserve to win that game. The bears clearly were the more disciplined team. All penalties aside, Jones fumbled within 3 minutes of the game ending when Rodgers was ready to take it down the field for the win. Collins picked off a pass that also potentially would have sealed the victory if not for a stupid, unnecessary interference called on the rookie Burnett. Tauscher was called offsides on back to back plays, one of which was a first down, the other a touchdown. Penalties and poor special teams play lost the game for the packers.

  85. balzosteel says: Sep 28, 2010 11:20 AM

    This shit for saken Bears squad is every bit reminiscent of that lucky 2001 squad that went 13-3 and got bounced by Philly. They got what’s coming to them.

  86. PackerRube13 says: Sep 28, 2010 11:28 AM

    green man says:
    September 28, 2010 7:37 AM
    The disciplined well coached team should have won and did.
    And if Collins was called a N word he proved the fan was right by acting like one.
    ——————————
    I am a white male, but that is an absolute unnecessary comment that I can’t believe they let through on here. I hope someone punches you in the face you self righteous, childish prick. I hate people like you. Making the world a worse place, and still keeping a sense of racism alive when in fact for 95% of us there is no thought of race or skin color. Seriously block this guy PFT! What an absolute idiot.
    Anyways, the Bears and Packers played a great game. I HATE the bears. But they deserved the win. We had too many mental mistakes, on both sides of the ball, that hurt us. Yes the refs helped them a lot with some shady calls down the stretch, like the PI on Burnett, but I love how Jim Schwartz put it in week one. Go look up what he said about making excuses by blaming the officials. We shot ourselves in the foot too many times, and STILL only lost by 3. We showed poor clock management too. Why not let them score with 1:30 left and 1 timeout, which could have been two had he not poorly challenged the fumble. Let them score, and then give Rodgers 1:20 and 2 timeouts or one timeout. Makes more sense than making a goal line stand, running the clock out, and letting them win on an extra point-esque field goal. Give your team a chance to win MM!

  87. purpleguy says: Sep 28, 2010 11:29 AM

    The Bears won fair and square — cheesers can do the coulda shoulda woulda theme on penalties and mistakes, but who do you think forced those mistakes? The ghost of Papa Halas? For a fan base that accused Viking homers of making the same excuses after the NFC championship game, the word irony sure comes to mind.

  88. Chgofan3 says: Sep 28, 2010 11:30 AM

    Funny how the cheesedicks have conveniently forgotten how the Bears dominated every category in last years opener in Green Bay yet the Packers still won the game.
    I did not hear anyone crying that the Bears should have won that game.
    ==========
    Good point.
    Also, just turn around the two teams in this game. Let’s say that the Bears had committed 18 penalties, many of which were holding penalties on GB stud pass rusher Matthews and 2 were on PI calls on passes to Jennings down field which negated INTs. Then let’s say that the Bears were driving down the field for the game-winning FG and then their WR gets stripped of the ball and the Packers take over and drive for the eventual game-winning FG. Think Packers fans would say they “got lucky” and didn’t deserve to win? Not a chance. They would brag how Matthews caused havoc on a horrible Bears OL and that the Bears DBs were so bad that they had to commit PI just to stop Rodgers.
    Neither team played up to their potential in this game. It came down to great special teams play by the Bears (punt return for TD and blocked FG) and a bend-but-don’t-break defense which held the Packers to only 3 scores and came up with a big turnover in crunch time. That’s not “luck”.
    Hopefully these two teams continue to get better and win throughout the season and then the game at Lambeau in JAN will be for the division. By then, both teams should be playing up to potential and it will make for a much better, more disciplined game.

  89. IllCapitan says: Sep 28, 2010 11:36 AM

    Coulda, shoulda, woulda, none of that matters. Who is 3-0? The Bears are. Game over bitches.

  90. PPaulson says: Sep 28, 2010 11:38 AM

    flipadelphia, you are 100% correct.
    everyone knows that aaron rodgers would love that…

  91. zappa says: Sep 28, 2010 11:39 AM

    Being a Vikes fan and following the Bear and Packers every move kind of makes me a Bears and Packers fan too, yikes. I thought the Packers looked like the better team last night but as a Vikes fan I know it’s not always the better team that wins. I also fell asleep early in the fourth quart. Was very surprised to wake up at midnight and hear Dan Patrick say the Bears won. I Love ( . Y . )

  92. texasPHINSfan says: Sep 28, 2010 11:45 AM

    Put me in the camp that thinks if a fan instigates, the player should be allowed to retaliate.
    THAT will teach fans to shut the hell up with the taunting, especially if it gets racist or past the line of what is appropriate. Especially given the fan was probably inebriated.
    Twenty bucks says the fan complains to the league and forces the league to settle by virtue of public apology and/or fine. This country is full of p*ssies. If you start sh*t, own up to it and take your medicine, fans.

  93. PackerRube13 says: Sep 28, 2010 11:45 AM

    Unlike my fellow Packer fans who are showing an insane amount of hypocrisy (Vikings-Saints anyone?), I will never say we deserved that game. I bleed Green and Gold, and am a definite diehard, but we didn’t deserve it. The mental mistakes and coaching were atrocious. I can only hope we clean it up, because Detroit is a team hungry for a win. Plain and simple. 2-1 is not the end of the world. Bears played well last night and showed mental toughness. I HATE saying that because I hate them, but they played well and took advantage of the mistakes. Cutler and Martz seems like a match made in heaven. 3 headed race for the division, could it be any more fun?

  94. Lwood says: Sep 28, 2010 11:46 AM

    NOBODY knows what was said to Collins, so quit bashing Chicago as being racist–there is NO PLACE in the US that isn’t racist, or more succinctly, more racist than anywhere else in the US.

  95. footballrulz says: Sep 28, 2010 11:56 AM

    The disciplined well coached team should have won and did.
    Well said

  96. Howie Handles says: Sep 28, 2010 11:56 AM

    “If you don’t think the Packers should have won that game, you don’t know football.”
    Last I checked, it was total points that decides a game. Say what you want about penalties, but the ones they called were very obvious. In fact, the biggest questionable call was the roughing the passer on Melton.
    If you’ve watched Lovie’s defenses through the years, one thing they do is give up tons of yards, but not points.
    If anything, the Bears should have had at least 10 more points yesterday.
    Now I’m not everything is great Bear’s fan, far from it. Their blocking is iffy, and if they can’t run the ball, they’re not going anywhere. Same goes for the Packers. Without a running game, I don’t care how good Rodgers is, they’re not winning squat.

  97. Howie Handles says: Sep 28, 2010 12:01 PM

    “The Bears got 152 yards on the ground..in penalties. The refs need to let these guys play and MM needs to sit the worst.”
    There are rules, right? If Urlacher went helmet to helmet on Rodgers, or if Matthews was tackled every third play, or even if Jennings was mauled going for the ball, you’d want that called, right?
    If the penalties were on the Bears, you wouldn’t say a damn thing. Just admit that.
    What about the dropped pass in the end zone, or the missed FG? I guess those potentially don’t count?

  98. Dewey Axewoond says: Sep 28, 2010 12:27 PM

    @Packerrube13–
    “self-righteous” and “childish”, indeed.
    Not unlike your own rant, right?
    “Your hate is SO wrong and ignorant–I HATE you!!”
    Really, green man’s post was not THAT big of a deal–you just have to get over your own kneejerk, over-the-top self-righteous rage and PC zealotry.

  99. MuskyHunter2542 says: Sep 28, 2010 12:36 PM

    I want to see the video

  100. Dikta's Lost Perm says: Sep 28, 2010 2:24 PM

    My God, Packer fans are delusional.
    First, I find it hard to believe that a fan was shouting “racial epithets” and only Nick Collins heard it. So either Nick Collins is lying and trying to justify his childish behavior, or the rest of the Packer’s black players are too big of pussies to say something to defend themselves when insulted.
    Second – you meatheads who insist the Packers are the better team need to wake up. They have the better passing offense, but there is a lot more to football than a slick passing game. Their o-line sucks. No running game. Secondary sucks. The defense as a whole is a gimmick based on trying to confuse the offense. Special teams are a joke. And the head coach doesn’t seem to know what he’s doing. Many of the penalties last night were simply because they were out matched talent wise, and the others because they are poorly coached. That being said, they are still one of the better teams in the conference, but hardly a sure thing for the Super Bowl. Remember they were only a 6 win team 2 years ago and really haven’t made that many upgrades since then.

  101. ACS2 says: Sep 28, 2010 2:28 PM

    AnimalMother42 says:
    September 28, 2010 11:10 AM
    A bunch of Carl Gerbschmidt’s…..(g oogle it if you dont know)….
    ————
    Carl Gerbschmidt is as real as Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
    Whoops, did I just ruin it for you?

  102. Emoney says: Sep 28, 2010 3:06 PM

    To the idiots saying that the lions will beat the packers, I would love to see you put your money where your mouth is.

  103. Majik Bullet says: Sep 28, 2010 4:30 PM

    Emoney says:
    September 28, 2010 3:06 PM
    To the idiots saying that the lions will beat the packers, I would love to see you put your money where your mouth is.
    ________________
    Yeah, because it’s out of line for Viking and Bear fans to say GB will lose to the Lions, but it’s OK for Packer fans to say the Vikes would lose to the Lions. The hypocrisy never ends with Packer fans.

  104. ACS2 says: Sep 28, 2010 5:02 PM

    Majik Bullet says:
    September 28, 2010 4:30 PM
    Yeah, because it’s out of line for Viking and Bear fans to say GB will lose to the Lions, but it’s OK for Packer fans to say the Vikes would lose to the Lions. The hypocrisy never ends with Packer fans.
    ———
    Note the lack of money and its location in Majik’s mouth.
    Favre’s dick is still in the way.

  105. Altschul says: Sep 28, 2010 6:27 PM

    I’m not a Bears, Packers, Vikings, or (thank god) Lions fan, but the NFC North posts are the most fun to read because of all the idiots who post here.
    Any objective viewer knows the Packers gave that game away and the Bears are not an elite team. The Packers were undisciplined and (at least in the last minute) poorly coached, but if the Bears are counting on their opponents making 18 penalties each week so they can squeak by with a 3-point win, have a fun season.
    Vikings fans who “sleep well” based on this game must be on qualudes, because the Packers have by far the most talented team in the division, and arguably the best QB in the league. That said, the Packers look like an easy pick to win the division, but the kind of discipline issues that cropped up last night are likely to come out again and screw them in the playoffs.

  106. BigBear123 says: Sep 28, 2010 7:56 PM

    First downs 21 GB 18 Chi
    Total yards 379 GB 276 Chi
    Total Plays 60 GB 48 Chi
    Time of Possession 35:49 GB 24:11 Chi
    This usually equals a win.
    ———————-
    Special teams and turnovers. Packers lost both battles.

  107. DATRUTH says: Sep 28, 2010 9:05 PM

    Collins the same clown who cried a ref mugged him when he wouldn’t get off the pile a couple of years ago and the ref pulled him off the pile and slamed him on the ground. Pack lost because they suck Lions will show how much GB sucks next week. But you whiney Pecker fans will cry we should win were too good to lose were special pity us.

  108. Little Tommy says: Sep 28, 2010 9:32 PM

    Pack should have won that game. The Bears are not that good of a team.
    **********************************************
    Would have, should have, could have, blah blah blah. The Bears might not be that good of a team but on Monday night they were good enough to beat the Cheeseheads and, last time I checked, that’s the name of the game!

  109. Little Tommy says: Sep 28, 2010 9:36 PM

    Hey, congratulate the Cheeseheads and their overhyped QB & team. They were part of a record-setting evening…18 penalties…I’m freakin’ impressed! GO BEARS!

  110. DSC says: Sep 29, 2010 2:15 AM

    Chapnasty. says: September 28, 2010 8:03 AM
    You know maybe, just maybe the Bears are a good team. For all intensive purposes they shut down Aaron Rogers,
    ________________________________
    Yes they bears may be descent, but how did they shut down Rodgers….obviously you are ignorant because you cant even spell hsi name….but look at his numbers…..and if you would have watched the game he couldnt be stopped by the bears….his tackles holding penalties however slowed rodgers down…..the packs tackles were outmatched…..btu Rodgers looked darn good as usual.

  111. Majik Bullet says: Sep 29, 2010 9:02 AM

    DSC says:
    Yes they bears may be descent, but how did they shut down Rodgers….obviously you are ignorant because you cant even spell hsi name….but look at his numbers…..and if you would have watched the game he couldnt be stopped by the bears….his tackles holding penalties however slowed rodgers down…..the packs tackles were outmatched…..btu Rodgers looked darn good as usual.
    ______________
    300 yards 1 TD, 1 INT, and a drive killing int. grounding. Rodgers looked decent, not “darn good.” But by “darn good as usual,” do you mean like Week 1 good?
    And by the way, if you’re going to critique someone for misspelling “Rodgers,” perhaps you shouldn’t misspell the word “his” in the same sentence as the one you’re blasting someone else’s spelling. Oh, Packer hypocrisy, how you grow in strength each week.

  112. BoltFan75 says: Sep 29, 2010 9:33 AM

    The Packers may be a good team, maybe even the class of the NFC North, and maybe they helped the Bears with the penalties, but remember good teams take advantage of these mistakes and thats exactly what Chicago did Monday night.

  113. PackerFansAreInbred says: Sep 29, 2010 1:31 PM

    And to think, it’s usually Packer fans who use the racial slurs.

  114. Bleedin Purple says: Sep 29, 2010 1:51 PM

    Thats a Bears fan for you, never have any class.
    Why you call anyone the N word when over half on the Bears are black too?
    Respect the game, respect the players whether they are on your team or not.
    I dont care how much I hate a player I would never spit on them and say that.
    Shows how big of a puss you are because you think your protected up in the stands.
    Bears fans are the worst in the league.

  115. ACS2 says: Sep 29, 2010 2:29 PM

    Majik Bullet says:
    September 29, 2010 9:02 AM
    300 yards 1 TD, 1 INT, and a drive killing int. grounding. Rodgers looked decent, not “darn good.” But by “darn good as usual,” do you mean like Week 1 good?
    And by the way, if you’re going to critique someone for misspelling “Rodgers,” perhaps you shouldn’t misspell the word “his” in the same sentence as the one you’re blasting someone else’s spelling. Oh, Packer hypocrisy, how you grow in strength each week.
    ————
    How many additional yards would he have had if the O-line hadn’t accumulated 7 penalties? We know there would be one more TD. And the INT? Yeah, toss that in there. It was a last-second hail mary. Absolutely, it’s a stat and it counts. But it has no bearing whatsoever on Rodgers’ performance.
    BTW, how many of Favre’s INTs this season have been hail mary’s?

  116. ragnar6chicken says: Sep 29, 2010 3:00 PM

    ACS2 says:
    September 29, 2010 2:29 PM
    Majik Bullet says:
    September 29, 2010 9:02 AM
    300 yards 1 TD, 1 INT, and a drive killing int. grounding. Rodgers looked decent, not “darn good.” But by “darn good as usual,” do you mean like Week 1 good?
    And by the way, if you’re going to critique someone for misspelling “Rodgers,” perhaps you shouldn’t misspell the word “his” in the same sentence as the one you’re blasting someone else’s spelling. Oh, Packer hypocrisy, how you grow in strength each week.
    ————
    How many additional yards would he have had if the O-line hadn’t accumulated 7 penalties? We know there would be one more TD. And the INT? Yeah, toss that in there. It was a last-second hail mary. Absolutely, it’s a stat and it counts. But it has no bearing whatsoever on Rodgers’ performance.
    BTW, how many of Favre’s INTs this season have been hail mary’s?
    ===============================
    The “addtional yards” are irrelevant. they didn’t happen, so who cares?
    I also beg to differ that the int has no bearing, it affects his passer rating, passer rating is part of the performance measures, is it not?
    Actually, I’m also having trouble finding what Brett Favre has to do with the conversation?
    Weren’t you guys dicussing how “darn good” Rodgers was?
    I know he looked ” damn gay” doing his little title bet dance.
    Aaron is gayer than TT’s penis is.

  117. ACS2 says: Sep 29, 2010 4:14 PM

    ragnar6chicken says:
    September 29, 2010 3:00 PM
    The “addtional yards” are irrelevant. they didn’t happen, so who cares?
    I also beg to differ that the int has no bearing, it affects his passer rating, passer rating is part of the performance measures, is it not?
    Actually, I’m also having trouble finding what Brett Favre has to do with the conversation?
    Weren’t you guys dicussing how “darn good” Rodgers was?
    I know he looked ” damn gay” doing his little title bet dance.
    Aaron is gayer than TT’s penis is.
    ————-
    All you ever talk about is guys you think are gay. If I didn’t know better, I’d assume you were Perez Hilton.
    Actually, I don’t know better.

  118. DSC says: Sep 29, 2010 4:32 PM

    September 29, 2010 9:02 AM
    DSC says:
    Yes they bears may be descent, but how did they shut down Rodgers….obviously you are ignorant because you cant even spell hsi name….but look at his numbers…..and if you would have watched the game he couldnt be stopped by the bears….his tackles holding penalties however slowed rodgers down…..the packs tackles were outmatched…..btu Rodgers looked darn good as usual.
    ______________
    300 yards 1 TD, 1 INT, and a drive killing int. grounding. Rodgers looked decent, not “darn good.” But by “darn good as usual,” do you mean like Week 1 good?
    And by the way, if you’re going to critique someone for misspelling “Rodgers,” perhaps you shouldn’t misspell the word “his” in the same sentence as the one you’re blasting someone else’s spelling. Oh, Packer hypocrisy, how you grow in strength each week.
    ____________________________
    His drive killing int was as time expired and a hail mary? really???? thats your argument here…..why are you so bitter against rodgers….is your man crush on favre blinding you???
    come on majik even you are better than that….you know he looked good…..you are surely bias but this is ridiculous….his numbers show he did great against a very good defense……

  119. Majik Bullet says: Sep 29, 2010 6:05 PM

    DSC says
    His drive killing int was as time expired and a hail mary? really???? thats your argument here…..why are you so bitter against rodgers….is your man crush on favre blinding you???
    _______________
    No, no, you misread what I wrote. I said int. grounding, not INT. I would never classify that pick as a drive killer, but the grounding penalty was brutal. I said he looked decent, but not overly impressive. So far he looked bad at Philly, good vs. Buffalo (for whatever that’s worth), and decent to good vs. the Bears.
    I admit he looked great last year, but he just seems to be missing something this year. Maybe it’s the lack of a ground game, but something seems a bit off. You might not see it because of your bias, but it’s definitely there, other Pack fans I’ve talked to have noticed it as well. I’m sure he’ll shake it off, but right now he’s nowhere near MVP level.

  120. DSC says: Sep 30, 2010 4:33 AM

    Majik calling me bias…..puts a smile on my face……
    I have agreed with many saying he didnt look great week one..bad no but again your crush on favre blinds you….you can knock the bills all you want but we still blew them out….somethign the pats could not do…..and yes i think that pats are very good
    A Rod just went 34/45…That is 75% completion percentage against a Bears D that is suppose to be very good…….I bet you would be chanting GREATEST QB EVER if favre did that…..and throwing 45 times with that completion % with no run game and a mediocre at best O Line is impressive(who else besides peyton could do that?)…also had 20 yards on the ground including a TD….sorry but you are the one with an extreme bias here……Considering a lot of their drives started off 1st and 20 because of penalties the bears knew the pass was coming even more so……you have no point here……Rodgers was great…..and while of course i have some bias for my team as anyone would, i can admit where we are lackign and where we are fine….
    Lacking:
    Coaching, O Line, Running Back, Special teams coverage
    Strenths: QB, WRS & TE, LBS
    Solid: D Line, Secondary, Kicking and Punting as well as our returns.
    Wheres my bias Majik?

  121. ACS2 says: Sep 30, 2010 9:38 AM

    Majik Bullet says:
    September 29, 2010 6:05 PM
    I admit he looked great last year, but he just seems to be missing something this year. Maybe it’s the lack of a ground game, but something seems a bit off. You might not see it because of your bias, but it’s definitely there, other Pack fans I’ve talked to have noticed it as well. I’m sure he’ll shake it off, but right now he’s nowhere near MVP level.
    ————-
    Wow. I feel dirty admitting it, but this is actually well thought out. Maybe there’s hope for you after all.
    But probably not.

  122. Majik Bullet says: Sep 30, 2010 10:04 AM

    Your bias is right there. You think Rodgers had a good game week 1. 188 yards, 2 TD’s, 2 INT’s, 73 QB rating. That’s nowhere near good, that’s bad. As for NE not blowing out the Bills, that’s to be expected of a division rivalry. How many times have we seen the Lions get blown out, then come back the next week and play the Vikes or Packers down to the wire?
    You accuse me of having a “mancrush” on Favre, but what about yours for Rodgers? The guy stinks it up in Week 1, and you call it a solid performance, yet when Favre puts up similar numbers Week 1 (171 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT 71 QB rating), he was awful. Just because I call it like I see it doesn’t make me bias. I think Rodgers is a very good player. I won’t call him great, yet, because he has a tendency to fall apart with the game on the line and has yet to win a big game. But if he figures that out, he will be a great one.
    Yes, you can admit the flaws of your team, but I do the same, yet I am biased and you are not? I’ve said countless times on here that Favre doesn’t look right, the Vikes O line seems to disappear at times, and Chilly is stiffly competing with McCarthy for worst coach in the league. I know you want me to be bias because it’s convenient for your argument, but you have to apply the same set of rules. If I am so blatantly biased, you would have to say the same of yourself.

  123. Majik Bullet says: Sep 30, 2010 10:19 AM

    ACS2 says:
    Wow. I feel dirty admitting it, but this is actually well thought out. Maybe there’s hope for you after all.
    But probably not.
    _________________
    Wow, I couldn’t care less what a lowlife such as yourself thinks about my post. Not only are you by far the biggest idiot on here, easily beating out the likes of Bob Nelson and crew, but you’re human garbage. Go away, you’re not even close to relevant.

  124. Ridge_Runner says: Sep 30, 2010 12:14 PM

    JimmySmith says:
    What ever you do Packer fans, don’t start acting the Viking fans and pointing to statistics or bad calls on the field as an excuse.
    To act like Vikings fans, we’d have to start blaming the loss on the refs, an NFL conspiracy, Hurricane Katrina, the Bermuda Triangle, leprechauns and the Illuminati.
    I guess that is proof positive that Vikings fans live in a perpetual state of delusion. After all, didn’t they elect former WWF meathead and present-day conspiracy nutter Jesse Ventura as Governor as their state? ‘Nuff said.

  125. Supersuckers2 says: Sep 30, 2010 1:13 PM

    Stop the nonsense. The facts are Green Bay is the most talented team in the NFC (Thank you Steady Teddy) followed by Dallas, Atlanta, Philly, and Minnesota. That doesnt equate to wins as was witnessed Monday night. These are probably the NFC’s playoff teams plus whateverrag wins the west. Seeded accordingly

  126. DSC says: Sep 30, 2010 1:48 PM

    Majik, first off you don’t have a “team” like most of us….everyone on here has said you jumped ship on the Packers and followed Favre? Is that true? Sounds like you follow a Player and not a team? Not sure where you went to school but i never said he had a good game week 1? I believe i said he didnt look good week 1? Just the opposite of what you posted? So when you say i said just the opposite of what i said how am i suppose to take you seriously? Do you also forget Rodgers doesnt have the best running back in the league behind him like Favre does? But i suppose that doesnt make a difference?

  127. Majik Bullet says: Sep 30, 2010 2:07 PM

    # DSC says: September 30, 2010 1:48 PM
    Majik, first off you don’t have a “team” like most of us….everyone on here has said you jumped ship on the Packers and followed Favre? Is that true? Sounds like you follow a Player and not a team? Not sure where you went to school but i never said he had a good game week 1? I believe i said he didnt look good week 1? Just the opposite of what you posted? So when you say i said just the opposite of what i said how am i suppose to take you seriously? Do you also forget Rodgers doesnt have the best running back in the league behind him like Favre does? But i suppose that doesnt make a difference?
    _______________
    First, you criticize me for saying he played bad in Week 1. Now you’re saying he didn’t look good. Which one is it, was he good or bad? Not sure where you went to school, but you can’t have it both ways.
    And yes, I quit rooting for GB when the GM traded away their best player from a 13-3 team in order to go 6-10. Favre was always a favorite of mine, so I stuck with him because I refused to root for a Thompson run team, and now will remain a Viking fan after 4 hangs it up. And as many have seen, I have no problem calling Favre out for poor decisions and bad play. So to answer your question, I follow a player (many players of many teams, actually) and a team, the Vikings.

  128. Majik Bullet says: Sep 30, 2010 2:17 PM

    # Supersuckers2 says: September 30, 2010 1:13 PM
    Stop the nonsense. The facts are Green Bay is the most talented team in the NFC (Thank you Steady Teddy) followed by Dallas, Atlanta, Philly, and Minnesota. That doesnt equate to wins as was witnessed Monday night. These are probably the NFC’s playoff teams plus whateverrag wins the west. Seeded accordingly
    _________________
    Ah Super, your blind homerism never ceases to amaze. How can a matter of opinion (especially that of an admitted know nothing), such as the level of talent of multiple teams, ever be stated as fact?
    While GB has a very good QB along with a couple good receivers and 2 standout defenders, their O line is shaky at best, just like the pass defense. And they have no running game whatsoever.

  129. ragnar6chicken says: Sep 30, 2010 2:43 PM

    Supersuckers2 says:
    September 30, 2010 1:13 PM
    Stop the nonsense. The facts are Green Bay is the most talented team in the NFC (Thank you Steady Teddy) followed by Dallas, Atlanta, Philly, and Minnesota. That doesnt equate to wins as was witnessed Monday night. These are probably the NFC’s playoff teams plus whateverrag wins the west. Seeded accordingly
    ===========================
    What is nonsense is predicting playoff teams after week 3 of the season…..especially with you predicting track record.

  130. Supersuckers2 says: Sep 30, 2010 2:53 PM

    ” they have no running game whatsoever. ”

    They really havent tried that much. When you are as explosive as this offense is (without kicking themselves in the sack) the run game is an afterthought. Yeah you have to sprinkle a few in there just to keep the defense on their toes a little but you don’t have to be good at it. Check out the rushing ranks for last years AFC Champion and the 2008 NFC Champions.

  131. Majik Bullet says: Sep 30, 2010 3:53 PM

    Super, I’m pretty sure I’ve clearly expressed how little I care what you think about who or what I root for. Especially considering the hypocrisy you have stated, saying that you can’t be a “true fan” unless you’re from the region of the team you root for, that is unless the team you root for is the Packers.
    And it’s not that the Pack doesn’t try to run the ball, they do, to the tune of 25 attempts per game. They just can’t do it, they don’t have the talent (thanks Ted). That explosive offense (341 yards/ game, a whopping 13 more a game than the “struggling” Viking offense), isn’t even close to the juggernaut you and every other homer who bought into the hype thought it would be.

  132. Supersuckers2 says: Sep 30, 2010 4:09 PM

    ” juggernaut you and every other homer who bought into the hype thought it would be.

    ——
    you just wait

  133. Majik Bullet says: Sep 30, 2010 4:55 PM

    # Supersuckers2 says: September 30, 2010 4:09 PM
    ” juggernaut you and every other homer who bought into the hype thought it would be.

    ——
    you just wait
    _______________
    Ah yes, spoken like a true Ted Thompson believer. Just keep waiting.

  134. DSC says: Sep 30, 2010 7:41 PM

    Majik says:
    First, you criticize me for saying he played bad in Week 1. Now you’re saying he didn’t look good. Which one is it, was he good or bad? Not sure where you went to school, but you can’t have it both ways.
    And yes, I quit rooting for GB when the GM traded away their best player from a 13-3 team in order to go 6-10. Favre was always a favorite of mine, so I stuck with him because I refused to root for a Thompson run team, and now will remain a Viking fan after 4 hangs it up. And as many have seen, I have no problem calling Favre out for poor decisions and bad play. So to answer your question, I follow a player (many players of many teams, actually) and a team, the Vikings.
    ______________________
    I guess i have no idea where you are getting this….i never said he didnt have a sub par performance week one…not sure if oyu are trying to put words in my mouth to make a point but im not follwoing…maybe use my quote to make your point cause right now you are not using what i said…
    They traded their QB after he retired and thendecided he wanted to play, another diva move by him thinking he can do what he wants…Surely youve heard all the analysts and sports media say they might the right choice, they got a better QB(right now, not for the career) and Clay mathews(they used their draft pic from the trade to trade up for Clay)….are you saying Rodgers performance was the reason they went 6-10? If you want numbers and stats from favre and rodgers as well as the Defense i will gladly provide them for you…If A Rod would been there the year before it could have been us losing the SB to the pats and not the giants pulling the big upset….didnt think we could have pulled it off though….I once was a Favre fanatic as well…but then Holmgren left and Favre became the dramaqueen he is today, where it is all about him, and he tried to run the team over Sherman, no not saying he was a good coach but still there is a pecking order. and for every good play favre made he made a bad one…..his records are great…but when you have the bad records too all that shows is he is the most durable Qb ever…his longevity is impressive….But you can most definately see that whether you still like him or not, there is a reason the Jets wanted him gone too…and as a lot vikes fans i know are saying it this year….they want him gone…he’s got the best running back in the league by far(when he holds onto the ball which he is doing now) and there offense looks mediocre…..he has a great te….and yes capable receivers….and a solid defense to back him up…..

  135. Majik Bullet says: Sep 30, 2010 8:44 PM

    DSC says: September 30, 2010 4:33 AM
    Majik calling me bias…..puts a smile on my face……
    I have agreed with many saying he didnt look great week one..bad no but again your crush on favre blinds you….
    _________
    Right there, that’s a quote from you saying he didn’t play bad in Week 1, and now you are saying he did play poorly. So again, which one is it.
    As for Rodgers vs. Favre, this is really the first time Rodgers has outplayed Favre. Yes, I’m saying Favre was better than Rodgers with the Jets, until he tore his bicep and kept playing (stupid decision by Favre to do so.) And last year, Favre out dueled Rodgers both head to head, and throughout the season, besting Aaron in every major passing category except for a 200 yard difference.
    I don’t think Rodgers gets them even close to 13-3 in 2007. He put up great numbers in his first year starting, and no, 6-10 is not all his fault, but Rodgers did throw picks in 4 different games when he had a chance to drive for the lead or a tie in the final 5 minutes of the game, and there were 3 other drives that fizzled out in the end with the same scenario, just not ending with INT’s. Most Packer fans like to blame the D, but they were still in 7 of those losses at the end.
    And I find it hard to believe any intelligent (key word here) Vikings fans would want Favre gone this year. He may be struggling, but considering the alternatives, he gives them the best chance to win by a long shot, and he’s still better than McNabb, so don’t try playing that card.

  136. DSC says: Sep 30, 2010 8:54 PM

    Majik Bullet says:
    September 30, 2010 3:53 PM
    Super, I’m pretty sure I’ve clearly expressed how little I care what you think about who or what I root for. Especially considering the hypocrisy you have stated, saying that you can’t be a “true fan” unless you’re from the region of the team you root for, that is unless the team you root for is the Packers.
    And it’s not that the Pack doesn’t try to run the ball, they do, to the tune of 25 attempts per game. They just can’t do it, they don’t have the talent (thanks Ted). That explosive offense (341 yards/ game, a whopping 13 more a game than the “struggling” Viking offense), isn’t even close to the juggernaut you and every other homer who bought into the hype thought it would be.
    _____________________________
    I agree Majik they haven’t been able to run the ball this year…and it is frustrating…but in ACSs defense…they have better running numbers then that Saints, Colts, Cowboys, and Bears…..
    So when you use the yardage stat and say their offense isnt “high powered” consider they have a higher percentage of their total offense coming the pass while there run is not existent ……while the vikes are living off of AD(which why wouldnt you) and dying by BF.

  137. Majik Bullet says: Sep 30, 2010 10:24 PM

    I never said that Favre wasn’t struggling, I know he is. The difference is that I never called the Vikings’ offense high powered, I’ve said pretty regularly that they need to improve, just like most Packer fans.
    My point was just that how can someone say that the Vikes are struggling offensively, while the Packers are “high powered” when they have nearly identical total offensive output, albeit one dimensional for both teams, just a different dimension? It seems rather hypocritical to say that GB doesn’t need to run, and then blast Minny for not being able to pass.

  138. slegeir says: Sep 30, 2010 10:28 PM

    Even with all the stupid penalties, the Packers almost won that game. Can’t wait til the Bears beat up on the Vikings! Better yet, the Packers do!

  139. slegeir says: Sep 30, 2010 10:34 PM

    How many intentional groundings did Mr. F have in his career? I can remember a ton! And hail mary’s, oh! And interceptions? Any one who plays for 20 years should have all the records broken. He made a lot of mistakes. But heck, most of them weren’t his fault.

  140. ACS2 says: Sep 30, 2010 10:42 PM

    Majik Bullet says:
    September 30, 2010 10:19 AM
    Wow, I couldn’t care less what a lowlife such as yourself thinks about my post. Not only are you by far the biggest idiot on here, easily beating out the likes of Bob Nelson and crew, but you’re human garbage. Go away, you’re not even close to relevant.
    ———-
    I hope your son’s boyfriend gives him AIDS.
    Yep. This time I insulted him. And in 10 years when he’s old enough to understand it, I hope you explain it to him.
    Be sure to use stick figures.

  141. DSC says: Sep 30, 2010 11:54 PM

    Majik Bullet says:
    September 30, 2010 8:44 PM
    DSC says: September 30, 2010 4:33 AM
    Majik calling me bias…..puts a smile on my face……
    I have agreed with many saying he didnt look great week one..bad no but again your crush on favre blinds you….
    Right there, that’s a quote from you saying he didn’t play bad in Week 1, and now you are saying he did play poorly. So again, which one is it.
    As for Rodgers vs. Favre, this is really the first time Rodgers has outplayed Favre. Yes, I’m saying Favre was better than Rodgers with the Jets, until he tore his bicep and kept playing (stupid decision by Favre to do so.) And last year, Favre out dueled Rodgers both head to head, and throughout the season, besting Aaron in every major passing category except for a 200 yard difference.
    I don’t think Rodgers gets them even close to 13-3 in 2007. He put up great numbers in his first year starting, and no, 6-10 is not all his fault, but Rodgers did throw picks in 4 different games when he had a chance to drive for the lead or a tie in the final 5 minutes of the game, and there were 3 other drives that fizzled out in the end with the same scenario, just not ending with INT’s. Most Packer fans like to blame the D, but they were still in 7 of those losses at the end.
    And I find it hard to believe any intelligent (key word here) Vikings fans would want Favre gone this year. He may be struggling, but considering the alternatives, he gives them the best chance to win by a long shot, and he’s still better than McNabb, so don’t try playing that card.
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    Majik what are oyu talking about? i said he didnt look great week 1…..i have no idea what you are getting at here, but it does make me chuckle a little???
    if you dont want to blame the D for 6-10 i guess your bias is bigger than i thought and will ignore it….
    So why did the jets make it to the afc championchip game with a rookie qb last year and no playoff appearance with favre the year prior with basically the same team and adding a coach? dont blame his injury, he should have sat his self absorbed rear end down if he was so hurt.
    2008 stats
    Brett Favre with Jets:
    3400 yards, 22 tds and 22 int, 81 rating, 5 fumbles, 40 rushing yards
    A Rod with Pack:
    Over 4000 yards, 28 tds vs 13 int, 93 rating, and he also had 4 rushing TDs, A Rod 4 fumbles over 200 rushing yards
    Rodgers had more total TDs than farve last year, had more rush yards and pass yards, same INTs.
    I feel the Vikes had the most talented team in the league last year since the 16-0 Pats. You put Rodgers on that team and Favre on the Packers last year and you know damn well what happens. With thm both having similar numbers and a better overall team in MN last year how can you not say Rodgers is superior ? Rodgers had those numbers with a worse line(second string line half the year on a team with a bad first string line) worse run game and similar receivers to Favre…..Your point is weak at best here pal….But again your bias is beyond me, i will let you get the last word in here cause i know its what you want and i had no idea what i was getting into with your extreme bias…i really thought you were starting to be more open minded but when you make your favre argument you proved me wrong again and then quote me which shows you were wrong about me saying rodgers was great week 1…..go ahead and take the last word….i feel like im arguing with a vikign fan….oh wait i am for now…until favre(majiks love) retires….maybe…

  142. Majik Bullet says: Oct 1, 2010 12:10 AM

    ACS
    You’re pretty tough behind that keyboard. I’ve given you every chance to back it up like a man, yet no response. And only someone as small and bigoted as yourself would view homosexuality as an insult. You’re pathetic, we’re done here, if you grow a set, you have the email address.

  143. Majik Bullet says: Oct 1, 2010 9:28 AM

    DSC
    When did you take a turn to extreme ignorance? I have a direct quote from you saying Rodgers didn’t play bad in Week 1, and you won’t even acknowlede it, saying “I said he didn’t play great.” Yeah, I realize this, but you also think his performance wasn’t bad, well, that is until you contradict yourself and say it was bad in a latter post.
    As for Favre in ’08, absolutely, he shouldn’t have played with the injury. If you opened your eyes a bit instead of blindly screaming “Majik’s bias” you would realize I already said he shouldn’t have been out there. And if you do any basic common sense fueled investigation, you’ll see that the Jets finished with the same record in 08 and 09, just that 9-7 was good enough to make the playoffs in 09. And it’s funny how you neglect to mention one minor detail in that rant, a new head coach. Yet you call me biased, then neglect this detail and refuse to acknowledge how Favre’s play fell of while injured. Come on homer.
    And now you’re trying to say MN had a better roster than GB, so that’s why Favre was better. Rice had never caught more than 30 passes, and Harvin was a rookie. Rodgers had 2 established good WR’s. Obviuosly, Favre had a better back, but then there’s the line. MN had 2 first year starters on theirs, the difference is that Favre didn’t hold the ball too long. So the better overall team is strictly your opinion, and a bad one at that, seeing as how you would have been hard pressed to find anyone who would have taken Rice and Harvin over Jennings and Driver at the start of last season. And yes, I do know what happens if you switch QBs last year, GB would have won the division. There’s good reason Favre finished in the top 3 in MVP voting, and Rodgers wasn’t in the conversation. It’s because a panel of experts, not fans like you and me, decided Favre was more valuable to his team than Rodgers was to his, and that Favre did more with what he had to work with.
    It’s just baffling how you can scream bias at me, yet fail to realize your own. If the superior passing stats don’t do it for you, the MVP ballot should. You’re sounding more and more like the typical “we’ve got 12 championships” idiot Packer fan with each passing post. Truly sad, you could have done better.

  144. DSC says: Oct 1, 2010 1:15 PM

    Majik,
    What are you talking about kid? I said he didn’t play great but he didnt play bad….is there no “okay?”
    I did mention the new coach….read again….
    Favre got 1 MVP vote…that would put him behind manning, brees, and rivers for votes last year….nice “fact”….being a favre lover you should be able to guess who gave him the 1 vote…..superior stats? i already showed how wrong you were there for hte past 2 years…..get a clue……i really had a little hope for oyu but this is your most feeble argument yet….
    If you think the pack had a more talented team then the vikes last year i guess ill leave your stupidity be and you can continue to show your true colors….
    ill let oyu be….youre getting made look bias and obstinate by quite a few people on here and you should spend more time defending yourself ot them then arguing to me with that garbage….

  145. DSC says: Oct 1, 2010 1:39 PM

    You also already mentioned the Jets record was the same without favre the eyar before….2 games better and trip to afc championship the year after……but favre was the best player then too?
    And last year was the first year Rice played a full season……that is what people have expected him to do and im sure if he gets healthy he will do it again with or without favre. think favre misses taylor much?
    Theres a reason people said the vikes would be good this year with or without favre because of all the talent….unfortunately he is hurting them now…
    Remember in 2007 when favre dug a hole for us at dallas then played hurt? remember rodgers coming in and getting us back in the game and taking the lead at one point?
    come on majik this has been easy…..im done with your garbage for now…

  146. Majik Bullet says: Oct 1, 2010 2:17 PM

    I was wrong about the MVP vote, my bad. Still, he got more than Rodgers, and if you recall, Rodgers never was in the conversation.
    As for the stats, you keep omitting one key word, “passing”, where, like I’ve said, Favre led every category but yards last year. Favre didn’t need to run, he had AD to do that. But here you go:
    Rodgers: 4434 yards, 64.7%, 30 TD’s, 7 INT’s, 103.2 QB rating, 50 sacks, 10 fumbles (4 lost)
    Favre: 4202 yards, 68.4%, 33 TD’s, 7 INT’s. 107.2 QB rating, 34 sacks, 2 fumbles (2 lost)
    Yes, I included sacks and fumbles. If you want to include the rushing stats, you need to account for the extra negatives Rodgers produced as well, such as the extra yards lost and drives killed with all those sacks, and the fact that he had more turnovers than Favre as well. And all of this while Favre was pulled in favor of TJack for mop-up, while McLardy let Rodgers play all game to pad his stats. And don’t say he didn’t do that, it’s no coincidence that Rodgers remained in that meaningless Week 17 game right up until he broke Favre’s season record, then was out on the next drive.
    And I see you did mention the Jets coach, but failed to acknowledge the importance of it. You make it seem like no big deal, while in fact, it’s pretty significant. A coaching upgrade can vastly improve a team, look what Sparano did for the 1-15 Phins, or Mike Smith for the Falcons the same year. But you just write it off because it hurts your argument. That doesn’t fly here. Man up and admit your mistakes, I do.
    Now you’re resorting to name calling because you can’t come up with solid statements to back your takes. I disagree with you, and say that GB had better offensive skill players than the Vikes, so that makes me stupid? Answer honestly, who would you have rather had going into last year, 2 proven guys in Jennings and Driver, or a 30 catch guy and a rookie in Rice and Harvin?
    As for the O lines, you seem to forget that the Vikes had 2 first year starters on their line. They also have brought back that entire starting unit this year, and the pundits blast the O line as a major weakness of the Vikes. So are you trying to say the same 5 guys went from being great to terrible in one season? Come on man, use your head.

  147. Majik Bullet says: Oct 1, 2010 2:29 PM

    What has been easy DSC, being an enormous hypocrite? You keep trying to use arguments against me that I’ve already acknowledged, like how Favre shouldn’t have played hurt. Then when all else fails, you start chanting “bias,” which is incredibly hilarious coming from one of the most biased posters I’ve come across on here. I’ve never had any trouble admitting the flaws of Favre or the Vikes, but when someone questions your opinions of the mighty Rodgers, you call them stupid and bias. Get over yourself.
    And Rice was expected to be a Pro Bowler last year? Really, do you even believe this drivel you’re starting to post? Rice had played in 13 games each season his 2 previous years, and had 46 catches combined. 46 catches in 26 games, and suddenly, according to you, the whole world had him pegged as a Pro Bowler.
    And no, I never mentioned the Jets record was the same before Favre, because it wasn’t. They were 4-12, Favre comes on board, plays hurt a third of the year, and they go 9-7. And there was no 2 game improvement last year, they went 9-7 again, check your facts, and stop making things up.

  148. Majik Bullet says: Oct 1, 2010 2:33 PM

    By the way DSC, just curious as to who you claim to know voted for Favre for MVP. Please, enlighten.

  149. Gravy Makes Sconnies Fat says: Oct 1, 2010 3:47 PM

    good god, favre finished 2nd in qb rating in the nfl last year and he was at least in the top 4 or 5 in mvp voting, just like he was in 07 and probly would’ve been in 08 before he tore up bicep muscle.
    EVERYBODY admits favre had a brilliant season last year and a big part of it was having a wr that would go up and fight for the ball, which he hasn’t had this season yet.
    nobody’s saying that rodgers isn’t a good qb but he didn’t finish with the 2nd highest qb rating in the league or top 4 in mvp voting.

  150. Majik Bullet says: Oct 1, 2010 7:35 PM

    Thanks Gravy, but I fear it is of no use. This guy showed signs of hope, but it sadly appears he’s just as big of a hypocritical homer as the rest of the bunch.

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