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Lightly tapping the brakes on the Vick hype train

M. Vick1.jpgAs I wrote in our picks column this week, it’s difficult to overhype this Redskins-Eagles matchup.  (But we’ll try.) It’s the type of game we all love watching football for.

Michael Vick’s return has been a terrific story, and he’s made key strides as a passer far more quickly than anyone could imagine.  But is the unqualified praise for him — starting with Andy Reid — totally just?

Two analysts that closely watched Vick’s performance against the Jaguars says to calm down just a bit.

Bill Barnwell of Football Outsiders points out (via Philly.com’s Movin’ the Chains) that Vick’s has remained inefficient and erratic at times.  Vick has made gorgeous highlight reel throws, but also had stretches of wildness. The quality of defensive backfields he’s started against (Jacksonville and Detroit) are a huge factor in his favor.

ESPN’s Ron Jaworski broke down Vick’s tape and had similar thoughts on PTI Thursday: “I’d like to see a little more consistency,” he said.

The good news for Vick:  The schedule doesn’t get tougher.  The Redskins secondary has been awful the last two weeks, and the next decent pass defense Philly faces is Tennessee in Week Seven. The rest of the schedule looks rather forgiving as well.

Vick has come a long way and he’s already one of most fun players in the league to watch again.  But he’s got room to improve as continues to get more reps in Reid’s offense.

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88 Responses to “Lightly tapping the brakes on the Vick hype train”
  1. Zach says: Oct 1, 2010 11:24 AM

    Finally.

  2. philbirds says: Oct 1, 2010 11:27 AM

    Washington
    @ San Francisco
    Atlanta
    @ Tennessee
    Indianapolis
    @ Washington
    New York Giants
    @ Chicago
    Houston
    @ Dallas
    @ NYG
    Minnesota
    Dallas
    So I guess the only 3 defenses you respect are NYJ, Pitt, and Baltimore???… I don’t know how you can say Philly’s schedule is easy

  3. Dr. Michael says: Oct 1, 2010 11:28 AM

    Rosnethal- “Vick’s return is a wonderful story.”
    Are you kidding me? as 45 year old former die hard eagles fan, I must disagree. Where is i a wonderful story? What’s wonderful about it-the killing dogs part or the father of the year andy reid ruining the eagles jump the shark part?

  4. bonafide says: Oct 1, 2010 11:29 AM

    Let’s not let facts get in the way of a good story.

  5. JCD says: Oct 1, 2010 11:30 AM

    No, this story has not been terrific. Some of us can’t stomach the sight of Vick on the field, and in fact will never be able to.

  6. Heywood Jablowme says: Oct 1, 2010 11:31 AM

    I guess PFT needed some hits. Queue the predictable comments…

  7. downwithdansnyder says: Oct 1, 2010 11:32 AM

    If Gregg thinks it’s time to slow the hype train then that means Vick will have a HUGE game and that sux to think as a Skins fan.

  8. Philly Cheese says: Oct 1, 2010 11:33 AM

    Oh wait, he’s not perfect?
    Who is?
    Just keep the highlight reel spinning and the E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES winning!!!

  9. if yer not first... says: Oct 1, 2010 11:33 AM

    Michael Vick’s return has been a terrific story
    talk about over hype – just how in the hell is this a TERRIFIC story? He didn’ t overcome cancer, he didn’t bounce back from major knee surgery,
    for Christ’s sake, he’s a dog-killing sociopath that happens to be an incredible athlete.

  10. IndyColt45 says: Oct 1, 2010 11:34 AM

    I swear to god that Rosenthal has the worst grammar of all damn time.
    Two analysts that closely watched Vick’s performance against the Jaguars says to calm down just a bit.
    Idiot.

  11. damnvarmint says: Oct 1, 2010 11:34 AM

    “Shortening the leash on the Vick hype” would of worked as well. Just sayin’……

  12. Meat Tuperello says: Oct 1, 2010 11:37 AM

    If there is ever a train wreck, this needs to be the one. Especially with a smoked up conductor, and a 4g author.

  13. ZenGreaser says: Oct 1, 2010 11:38 AM

    Jaws is a joke. As an Eagles fan, I used to think he was objectively analytical, but the dude has proven to be a top-notch doucher in the booth. Not to mention he has a hard-on for putting Vick down. (Maybe he’s jealous that he’s no longer the best Eagles player to wear #7)

  14. JBx11 says: Oct 1, 2010 11:38 AM

    Only time will tell about Michael Vick. He is the real deal and makes the Philadelphia Eagles a more formidable team to battle against week in and week out than Kevin Kolb. When the blockers miss their assignment or have a poor effort block, Vick makes something happen with his feet then spurns you with his arm. Be afraid.

  15. BDiddy says: Oct 1, 2010 11:38 AM

    Basically, the Eagles got rid of a mobile, athletic QB with a strong, though frequently inaccurate, arm for a mobile, athletic QB with a strong, though frequently inaccurate, arm who spent time in a federal penitentiary for murdering dogs and running an illegal interstate gambling ring. Well played, Andy.

  16. PED'S ARE GOOD FOR SPORTS says: Oct 1, 2010 11:39 AM

    Hes playing well. Bottom line. He cant be blamed for who he’s scheduled against. They are all professionals, and yes, some are better than others definitely. But you can only beat who you play, so he needs to be given some credit for that. Isnt it said good temas beat who they are supposed to beat? Bottom line is he’s done his job and done it well.

  17. CarlHess1 says: Oct 1, 2010 11:39 AM

    Hahaha hes currently the 2nd rater passer in the NFL with 6 TD’s and 0 Int’s……a little more consistency? inefficient and erratic? Hes the 2nd rater passer as of right now.

  18. dabarber says: Oct 1, 2010 11:40 AM

    Run the fantasy football numbers again Gregggggggggggg.
    They play a lot of good D’s besides the ones you mentioned.

  19. CKL says: Oct 1, 2010 11:42 AM

    How soon the media forgets that Ronnie Mexico would have these 2-3 good passing games every year in Atl and they would cream themselves over him and how he “finally gets it” and has “turned the corner”. Is it possible that he has defied the odds and gotten THAT much more accurate? I guess. But it’s more likely a fluke than not judging on his history.
    Also, I hate the blanket media thought that Ronnie Mexico is “exciting to watch”. Not in my book. I would rather watch actual QBs than some dude who runs around a lot.

  20. reginaldlewis says: Oct 1, 2010 11:42 AM

    Its funny you never see commentators looking at the defensive rankings when Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Drew Brees has a good game but when Vick starts playing well “Oh, the defenses suck” its just blatant RACISM and people are so biased and blind to it. Vick is in the NFL and lighting up NFL defenses I don’t care what they’re ranked. Its so hard for white people to give black QB’s credit for anything its always “something else” as the reason they are doing well lol its so sad its comical. If VY has a good game “It’s CJ”, keep it up though just makes you all look ignorant.

  21. Weismobile says: Oct 1, 2010 11:43 AM

    Week 6 vs. Atlanta is “forgiving”?

  22. PED'S ARE GOOD FOR SPORTS says: Oct 1, 2010 11:46 AM

    Dr. Michael says:
    October 1, 2010 11:28 AM
    Rosnethal- “Vick’s return is a wonderful story.”
    Are you kidding me? as 45 year old former die hard eagles fan, I must disagree. Where is i a wonderful story? What’s wonderful about it-the killing dogs part or the father of the year andy reid ruining the eagles jump the shark part?
    I REALLY hope you are not a MD because you obviously are an ingnorant SOB who doesnt know his ass from a hole in the ground. PLEASE dont pro-create.
    JCD says:
    October 1, 2010 11:30 AM
    No, this story has not been terrific. Some of us can’t stomach the sight of Vick on the field, and in fact will never be able to.
    Thankfully not ALL of us are idiots, like you.
    Heywood Jablowme says:
    October 1, 2010 11:31 AM
    I guess PFT needed some hits. Queue the predictable comments…
    ^^^ Yup, LOL.

  23. cowboys1 says: Oct 1, 2010 11:46 AM

    wow just let the guy have his moment, god forbid he get praise for his play so far, I dont hear anyone saying he’s gonna be the next peyton manning, even eli cant do that, just that he’s had an impressive start.

  24. Xpensive Wino says: Oct 1, 2010 11:48 AM

    His touch on the medium to long range passes has been outstanding (having Jackson and Maclin to run like hell after the catch certainly helps), but he still needs to work on the screens and underneath stuff……and he’s getting balls whacked at the line a bit too much.
    From a purely football standpoint, he’s improved dramatically from where he was as a passer. The way he’s playing right now is the way he should have been playing all along (if he had cared). For him to improve from this point moving forward is actually frightening. There’s no telling how dominant he can be.
    The light obviously has definitely been turned on both personally and professionally for the guy. I think he sees the connection.

  25. KingJoe! says: Oct 1, 2010 11:49 AM

    Once upon a sunday dreary, while I was drunk and cheery,
    Over many a bad calls and stress of the updated score–
    While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
    As of florio gently rapping, rapping at excitements door.
    “‘Tis some downer,” I muttered, “tapping the brakes on Vicks allure–
    Only this and nothing more.”

  26. BenRapistberger says: Oct 1, 2010 11:50 AM

    @philbirds:
    He didn’t say they had an easy schedule. He said they only play 1 team with an above average secondary the rest of the year. Look at your list again and tell me who has a dominant secondary. Not a single one of those teams do I look at and say “ok, that team is known for it’s secondary, it’s gonna be hard to pass on them”. Even Tennessee.

  27. BDiddy says: Oct 1, 2010 11:50 AM

    By the way, Florio could throw for 300 yards and 3 scores against Detroit or Jacksonville. Probably left-handed, to boot. When Vick succeeds against a legitimate NFL defense, I’ll believe.

  28. trippen says: Oct 1, 2010 11:52 AM

    it figures PFT wants to slow down the hype on Vick. right or wrong, PFT is the reason Vick went to jail in the first place after exposing his activities (and profiting off the rumor speculation) for about 6 months straight. i guess they still don’t believe he has redeemed himself

  29. daddy_lover says: Oct 1, 2010 11:53 AM

    He fought dogs. It’s not like he’s a pedophile.

  30. myeaglescantwin says: Oct 1, 2010 11:55 AM

    Dont let the stats lie to you. Vick has missed a whole heap of wide open receivers. This hasn’t bitten him on the ass yet, but he has left some points on the board.
    If he makes those same inaccurate throws against a decent defense, we might be in trouble.
    Andy Reid still does not run the ball (with RBs) so i believe its only a matter of time until the fantasy ride with Vick ends.
    I’d see about a trade to the Browns for Joe Thomas or Alex Mack. I dont care who they decide to trade. Either Vick or Kolb., but the chances of this happening are 0%

  31. OJPimpson says: Oct 1, 2010 11:58 AM

    Lol @ the title

  32. Selgae says: Oct 1, 2010 12:05 PM

    Now that the NFL media has succumbed to the same 24 hr cycle of Fox, MSNBC and CNN crapedia , we can expect an endless stream of overhyped, made up, and blown out of proportion stories.

  33. mplskc says: Oct 1, 2010 12:11 PM

    A terrific story?????? Really??? You do recall the reason that he had to be away from football for a while, right? He is an A-hole and just because he is playing well, that doesn’t mean that we just forget about that. A terrific story would be Wes Welker or E.J. Henderson. What a ridiculous post.

  34. cowboys1 says: Oct 1, 2010 12:12 PM

    only eagles fans and real nfl football fans want to see vick succeed. all the rest are haters, yeah he shouldnt win the courage award for sure, the thank god for second chances award maybe, but you cant doubt this guy is a very talented, fierce competitor who is playing amazing right now. If you love football, then you gotta love vick.

  35. birdmancometh says: Oct 1, 2010 12:13 PM

    So, since you are saying the whole schedule is easy, I guess you’re going to discredit him all season long? Can he do anything at all to prove he’s improved?

  36. Heywood Jablowme says: Oct 1, 2010 12:20 PM

    reginaldlewis says:
    October 1, 2010 11:42 AM
    Its funny you never see commentators looking at the defensive rankings when Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Drew Brees has a good game but when Vick starts playing well “Oh, the defenses suck” its just blatant RACISM and people are so biased and blind to it. Vick is in the NFL and lighting up NFL defenses I don’t care what they’re ranked. Its so hard for white people to give black QB’s credit for anything its always “something else” as the reason they are doing well lol its so sad its comical. If VY has a good game “It’s CJ”, keep it up though just makes you all look ignorant.
    ___________________________________
    Only racists assume race is the issue. You, sir, are a racist.

  37. Scooby_Doo says: Oct 1, 2010 12:22 PM

    Great story?
    Hmmmmm…I mean, it’s not like Vick overcame something here. He was just a dog killing thug who got another chance.
    Where is the great story?

  38. Dilbio50 says: Oct 1, 2010 12:22 PM

    Vick will be the first example of a “black” (i.e. “running”) QB from any era that has weapons around him to actually win…
    And dont give me Randall in Minny or Warren Moon in Hou or Doug Williams in DC as counterargument examples. Those were anamolies.
    I agree with the guy above who talked about black QBs getting no respect…they dont. Owners throw black QBs to the wolves and say…”go win, boy.” Take McNabb for example…they didnt put shit around him to win. All bums. And when they did, he threw them under the bus and then was kindly shown the door this past year.
    Black, mobile QBs have been cash-cows for Owners. And, when they fail or dont live up to expectations, they’re fully to blame for the ills of bad coaching, bad drafting, or refusal to stock real talent other than the man with the ball.
    Vick will have his ups and downs, but the dude is still dynamite…he’s electric and gives that very young, piss-ant team, coached by a fat gadget-oriented Don Coryell-wannabe coach a chance to win every week. he’s doing what Donovan did years back…and he still has gas, he has the wheels and that body has had 3 years off.
    And yes, if Vick would have started against the Pack, the Birds would have won. Thus the reason Reid pulled the plug on the Bobby Hoying…errr…Kevin Kolb experiment.
    Lurie isnt dumb….he knows what sells. Vick is his new cash cow.
    McNabb is a shell of what he was in the early 2000s…he doesnt have the wheels and that big arm with no-touch is quickly becoming innacurate, especially with continued mediocre talent around him.

  39. JLawless87 says: Oct 1, 2010 12:25 PM

    All the people that are hating on Vick … get over yourselves please … so you didn’t have any friends growing up besides your dog … that is fine I also love dogs … but seriously get over it … move on … your life is not being affected by a football player, playing his game at a high level … unless of course you have nothing better to do than to judge people’s pasts … then i recommend a trip to a mental health professional … for your issues are much deeper than commenting on a sports blog about how bad other human beings are

  40. The Black Cat says: Oct 1, 2010 12:25 PM

    The Redskins can’t keep giving up 500 yards a game, so expect Vick to struggle to crack 400 yards.

  41. if yer not first... says: Oct 1, 2010 12:26 PM

    He fought dogs. It’s not like he’s a pedophile.
    Correction daddy_lover, he WATCHED dogs fight. And he also hung them, tortured them, and electrocuted them and laughed and laughed and laughed.

  42. Thunder says: Oct 1, 2010 12:30 PM

    This whole thing is making me sick of pro football.
    Why does he get a chance at redeption on this level. If most of the readers of this site were convicted of a felony we would have a hard time getting a job flipping bugers let alone making millions of dollars and fanfare.
    I am very close to canceling my NFL ticket and never watching another game. I have been a huge football fan through out my life. Played football for 13 years pee-wee until community college. My fall used to revolve aroung the sport. Now I could careless because people like Mike Vick, Leonard Littlle, Pacman Jones and the list goes on, are ruining it for me.
    Sometimes you just have to say WTF is this world coming to.

  43. carmendmv says: Oct 1, 2010 12:32 PM

    I am a HUGE Eagles fan.
    The only reason I cheer for Vick is because he’s in an Eagles uniform. When Vick was with Atlanta, I NEVER acknowledged him as a QB.
    I’m STILL on the fence. I’m surprised he hasn’t had any INTs – I know they are coming and fully expect it.
    As long as the Eagles win, I could care less if it comes on offense on defense. I just want wins and if Vick can help get us there – more power to the team.

  44. joetoronto says: Oct 1, 2010 12:34 PM

    The stage is set for yet another big fall from this wannabe “QB”.
    It’s coming, that’s for sure.

  45. Cardsfan81 says: Oct 1, 2010 12:35 PM

    The hater-aid is realy flowing from Philly and parts beyond.
    ESPN’s Ron Jaworski broke down Vick’s tape and had similar thoughts on PTI Thursday: “I’d like to see a little more consistency,” he said.
    Really! Are you kidding me! Vick was away from football for two years and some would like a little more “consistency”. Jaworski’s an ass hole. If Vick keeps performing at a high level Jaworski could become the 5th best QB in Philadelphia Eagles history behind Donovan McNabb, Randall Cunningham, Norm Van Brocklin and Micheal Vick?

  46. Meat Tuperello says: Oct 1, 2010 12:36 PM

    “# daddy_lover says: October 1, 2010 11:53 AM
    He fought dogs. It’s not like he’s a pedophile.

    Says daddy lover. Sounds like you should know a bout them.
    Either way Vick is a piece of shit and didn’t deserve another down in the NFL!

  47. Chapnasty. says: Oct 1, 2010 12:37 PM

    @ reginaldlewis
    Thank you for being the token guy here crying racism. Hey numbnuts, I am going to assume you are black so please explain why you support Vick? Please provide some other reason other than the reason that is so obvious to the rest of us: because HE is black. And we are the racists!?

  48. TheDPR says: Oct 1, 2010 12:48 PM

    I love the Eagles.
    I hate Mike Vick.
    I have no respect for Andy Reid.
    That said, Vick has clearly benefitted from the coaching he has received in Philadelphia. He is a better QB than he was with Atlanta.
    He is no Manning or Brady or Brees or Schaub or Rogers.
    He is, however, the best QB in the division right now.
    He gives the Eagles their best chance to win now.
    The team is likely to make the playoffs again. If that’s all you’re after (which I am convinced is the case with Reid/Lurie/Banner/Roseman) then Vick turned this season from a rebuilding year into a “success.”

  49. reginaldlewis says: Oct 1, 2010 12:48 PM

    Heywoodjablowme
    IT HURTS YOUR Little HEART TO SEE VICK SUCCEED lol GO VICK!!! I wonder what color you are?

  50. RIP__21 says: Oct 1, 2010 12:49 PM

    Skins defense finished 8th, 4th, and 10th during the past three seasons. Haslett comes in take us to dead last and only took him three weeks to do it.
    Vick should perform well this weekend; thanks to hapless Haslett and his 3-4 nonsense.
    Hype train steams along.

  51. redscare says: Oct 1, 2010 12:54 PM

    Finally! I’ve been saying this since the Packers game. He’s gorging on flashy plays against some of the worst defenses in the league! Two wins against teams that are a combined 1-5!
    Inconsistency doesn’t matter as much when you’re playing against teams you can repeatedly victimize for big plays. Vick’s not doing anything a mature defense can’t plan for and handle, and we will start seeing this very soon. I thought we’d start seeing it with the Redskins, though they’ve fallen apart pretty quickly, so the Hollywood script that Vick is getting continues.
    Vick is hype. Sports journalists are always looking for the extraordinary story, and they bite way too quickly on things like this.
    Is there any doubt that Donovan McNabb would be putting up better numbers against the teams Vick has played so far? Sheesh.

  52. mbmorganjr says: Oct 1, 2010 1:02 PM

    I hope the meaning of “The quality of defensive backfields he’s started against (Jacksonville and Detroit) are a huge factor in his favor” is that he’s put up good stats against terrible defenses. That’s what I’ve been saying. I’m not for or against Vick, but let’s be realistic, those two teams are likely to end up among the worst five defenses in the NFL.

  53. Philly Cheese says: Oct 1, 2010 1:05 PM

    The secondary is only as good as the front seven allows it to be. You can’t just look at the secondary and say that’s the reason for success or failure. If a team can pressure the qb consistently, their secondary will be fine regardless of the talent level. Works both ways.

  54. NFL4EVER says: Oct 1, 2010 1:12 PM

    Vick, like Obama is all style, no substance, it will all come out in due time.
    Unfortunately for the present, most weak minds are seduced by style and ignore substance. (sigh)
    For the record, I have better chance about being wrong about Vick.

  55. Marc F says: Oct 1, 2010 1:16 PM

    What a BS statement!
    the quality of the backfields he started against..
    though he didn’t start against Green Bay, in ONLY 2 quarters, he brought the eagles from deep in the hole to within 3 points of winning. in 2 QUARTERS.
    I was at the Jax game.
    he looked great. a lot better than Cutler or Rogers looked the other night. how many passes did cutler Almost have intercepted? How about rodgers?
    Who has had 3 games in a row with over a 100 passer rating? 3 quarterback. Manning, Brees, and Vick.
    get off the high horse florio, vick is back, and he’s better than ever. you haters are so quick to prove that he hasn’t changed ,or he’s still bad… get over it,.

  56. spanky2525 says: Oct 1, 2010 1:26 PM

    Vick is going to do well this season, whether you
    nerds posting on here like it or not……

  57. PED'S ARE GOOD FOR SPORTS says: Oct 1, 2010 1:30 PM

    I personally dont care about mechanics, drop backs, etc. All I care is that they keep winning.
    The only thing Al Davis may have said that makes sense:
    “Just win baby”…In the end, THIS is ALL that matters.

  58. eaglelover1 says: Oct 1, 2010 1:33 PM

    Over rated. Irratic, inconsistant.
    What game were you watching hat says he has missed some throws? In the last game I saw at least 5 drops and I watched that on REDZONE as I live in Houston. If Vick is playing as bad as you say Then Favre should quit RIGHT NOW!
    So Should golden boy Tom Brady.
    Who has Brees Beaten? 49ers and Vikings 1-5
    Manning, P. Giants and Broncos 2-4
    Brady Bengals and Bills 2-4
    I don’t see any critisizm of these three WHITE QB’s as playing INFERIOR competition.
    See as the stats above show this country still does have a race issue yet those that are in power (white people) still refuse to acknowledge it. You know just because you ignore something does not make it go away. Vick is having a helluva a season RIGHT NOW let it happen.
    To that dude that says he expects the INT’s to start comming and that Vick is lucky to have gotten away without having a few so far….. That’s what I said about Favre last year. But, low and behold the NFL CAREER INT LEADER di not fail once the game was on the line.

  59. Hauschild says: Oct 1, 2010 1:33 PM

    Career 75 QB Rating means the law of averages will prevail by season’s end, and he’ll be in the 75-85 range. Or, at some point the numbers will fall more in line with his career averages.
    What’s Brett’s career average, around 85, right? Last year was an example of what happens when a guy like Brett has weapons. This year, he’s back to having no receivers or offensive play-calling, so he’ll settle around his career average at season’s end, unless Rice comes back.

  60. keithman says: Oct 1, 2010 1:34 PM

    What exactly makes Reid’s praise of Vick “unqualified”? If there’s anyone who’s “qualified” to praise Vick it’s his head coach. You know, the guy who’s been to 5 NFC championship games and a Super Bowl.
    I enjoy listening to Jaws, but he’s also the guy that swore Kelly Clemmons was the 2nd coming of Peyton Manning.

  61. BrianMD says: Oct 1, 2010 1:37 PM

    reginaldlewis-
    Throwing out racism when none exists only waters it down for when it truly exists.
    You, sir, are part of the problem and nothing but a race-baiter which is just another form of racism.
    Could it be that people don’t like Vick because he murdered dogs, ran an illegal gambling ring and embarassed the Falcons and the NFL?
    I can’t stand John Rocker because he is a stupid redneck.
    What does that make me?

  62. Tornadoes28 says: Oct 1, 2010 1:43 PM

    Gee ya think the praise is overhyped? Duh. He’s only played in 3 games and they were against crappy teams. Big deal.

  63. eaglelover1 says: Oct 1, 2010 1:47 PM

    Thunder says:
    October 1, 2010 12:30 PM
    This whole thing is making me sick of pro football.
    Why does he get a chance at redeption on this level. If most of the readers of this site were convicted of a felony we would have a hard time getting a job flipping bugers let alone making millions of dollars and fanfare.
    I am very close to canceling my NFL ticket and never watching another game. I have been a huge football fan through out my life. Played football for 13 years pee-wee until community college. My fall used to revolve aroung the sport. Now I could careless because people like Mike Vick, Leonard Littlle, Pacman Jones and the list goes on, are ruining it for me.
    Sometimes you just have to say WTF is this world coming to.
    ******************************************* Come on now. You are showing what you are with comments like this. The NFL is different now but the world is the same. How many DUI’s has Favre gotten? You know why he doesn’t have any? He lives in Mississippi and he is a god there. I will tell you this if you are ever in around where Favre lives take ride down the leading to his house and around that area. Notice all the dented trees and broken off remains of trees. Take a look in the grass around those trees and grab a few keepsakes of former Favre Vehicles.
    The NFL had rapist, drunk drivers, drug users, wife beaters, and all sorts of criminals elements long before the Vicks, Rothlisbergers and such came along. Do some research and you will find a few arrests of NFL players before 1980. 1990. 2000. 2010. But at this moment you want to satisfy your R-rated rant at Vick.

  64. PED'S ARE GOOD FOR SPORTS says: Oct 1, 2010 1:52 PM

    Thunder says:
    October 1, 2010 12:30 PM
    This whole thing is making me sick of pro football.
    Why does he get a chance at redeption on this level. If most of the readers of this site were convicted of a felony we would have a hard time getting a job flipping bugers let alone making millions of dollars and fanfare.
    I am very close to canceling my NFL ticket and never watching another game. I have been a huge football fan through out my life. Played football for 13 years pee-wee until community college. My fall used to revolve aroung the sport. Now I could careless because people like Mike Vick, Leonard Littlle, Pacman Jones and the list goes on, are ruining it for me.
    Sometimes you just have to say WTF is this world coming to.
    Newsflash !!! LIFE ISNT FAIR !!!
    Now STFU and get off your soap box and or dont watch the NFL anymore.
    My money says you will continue to watch and continue to piss and moan about how life isnt fair.
    Wah-Wah-Wah…
    Appreciate what you have…there is a reason why coveting is one of the seven deadly sins my friend.
    Get over it and move on.

  65. anl says: Oct 1, 2010 1:52 PM

    I am amazed at how much Vick is being vilified. I am an Eagles fan and was against them signing him.
    Let’s put things in perspective. Vick killed dogs and was involved in an illegal dog fighting ring. I vilified him as much as folks here did. But he paid a steep price for his crimes and was punished by the courts. He is by all accounts a more humble man making the best of his second chance. He is no longer involved in these activities. What more do you (we) want from the man?
    Now to football: Vick was never the most accurate passer and I suspect he will come down to earth a bit in the upcoming weeks. His passes always seem a little off to me, even when they are completions. However, he has also become a student of the game, actually studying film to an extent he had not in the past, so this should put his performance in better perspective.
    I am a sucker for a good comeback. Give me Vick over the unrepentant Roethlisberger anyday. That idiot doesn’t seem to learn.

  66. Heywood Jablowme says: Oct 1, 2010 1:54 PM

    reginaldlewis says:
    October 1, 2010 12:48 PM
    Heywoodjablowme
    IT HURTS YOUR Little HEART TO SEE VICK SUCCEED lol GO VICK!!! I wonder what color you are?
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    Race clearly is an issue for you since you insist on knowing my race. Well racist person, I am white. I am also an Eagles fan. So dummy, it doesn’t heart my heart to see Vick succeed. You clearly have issues and should get them addressed. Might I suggest counselling? Perhaps getting a friend? BIGOT!

  67. FLORIO_IS_A_SELLOUT says: Oct 1, 2010 2:05 PM

    If Vick doesn’t either run for an 80 yard touchdown or throw for a 90 yard touchdown EVERY PLAY, they’ll all hate. IT’S ABOUT WINS AND LOSSES, VICK WILL LEAD THIS TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS.

  68. reginaldlewis says: Oct 1, 2010 2:06 PM

    BrianMD
    Name one racist white person in past 20 years who admitted they were racist and I will never post here again.
    Either there are no racist people or somebody’s lying.

  69. geo1113 says: Oct 1, 2010 2:13 PM

    eaglelover1
    “Who has Brees Beaten? 49ers and Vikings 1-5
    Manning, P. Giants and Broncos 2-4
    Brady Bengals and Bills 2-4
    I don’t see any critisizm of these three WHITE QB’s as playing INFERIOR competition. ”
    Let’s see. These guys have all won Super Bowls and Vick was away from the game for 2 years because he was in jail for abusing animals. Vick still has to prove his worth over a longer period of time. And I say this as someone who supports Vick and feel that he has turned the corner in his life.

  70. PED'S ARE GOOD FOR SPORTS says: Oct 1, 2010 2:21 PM

    eaglelover1 says:
    October 1, 2010 1:33 PM
    Over rated. Irratic, inconsistant.
    What game were you watching hat says he has missed some throws? In the last game I saw at least 5 drops and I watched that on REDZONE as I live in Houston. If Vick is playing as bad as you say Then Favre should quit RIGHT NOW!
    So Should golden boy Tom Brady.
    Who has Brees Beaten? 49ers and Vikings 1-5
    Manning, P. Giants and Broncos 2-4
    Brady Bengals and Bills 2-4
    ^^^ EXCELLENT post up to here.
    The REST is TOTAL HORSESHIT and you get the STFU award for that.
    Totally ruined a great post by an unwarranted playing of the race card.

  71. CuzinCowboy says: Oct 1, 2010 2:22 PM

    How many bad passes do Tom Brady and Peyton Manning make? hmmmm Theyre perfect neither. How many teams in their division has a top Defensive Back unit? hmmmm…. my point. Get off the mans dick, he just got out of jail a year ago and it trying be the best he can be. We are not perfect and make mistakes. How many of you douche bags go shooting deer and shit? Get the hell out of here…. next.

  72. racingwis says: Oct 1, 2010 2:22 PM

    Its funny you never see commentators looking at the defensive rankings when Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Drew Brees has a good game but when Vick starts playing well “Oh, the defenses suck” its just blatant RACISM and people are so biased and blind to it. Vick is in the NFL and lighting up NFL defenses I don’t care what they’re ranked. Its so hard for white people to give black QB’s credit for anything its always “something else” as the reason they are doing well lol its so sad its comical. If VY has a good game “It’s CJ”, keep it up though just makes you all look ignorant.
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    I bet if a white QB killed a bunch of helpless animals and was causing an internet frenzy on playing again, they would post the same exact thing. Your race card has been revoked.

  73. Chapnasty. says: Oct 1, 2010 2:25 PM

    @ regingaldlewis
    Name one black person who admitted they were racist and I will NEVER post here again…
    I won’t hold my breath because most think it is only possible for white people to be racist. But since you asked, every single person on any national geographic special on the KKK. They will all admit it. Now go away with your hate and bigotry.

  74. FMWarner says: Oct 1, 2010 2:29 PM

    What exactly makes Reid’s praise of Vick “unqualified”? If there’s anyone who’s “qualified” to praise Vick it’s his head coach. You know, the guy who’s been to 5 NFC championship games and a Super Bowl.
    ____________________________________
    That’s not what “unqualified” means. It means without qualification, i.e., without any “but”s or “although”s. Reid’s praise of Vick has been unqualified so far. Quite unusual for him, too.

  75. PED'S ARE GOOD FOR SPORTS says: Oct 1, 2010 2:32 PM

    To those who think Vick hasnt chnaged as a QB and is better than before?
    Chew on this stat, which if you know FB (dont know why Im even suggesting this crazy idea to some of the idiots on here), it shows poise, presence, AND the ability to read defenses and coverages:
    Vick has a 132.8 quarterback rating against secondary blitzes, third behind Peyton Manning and Drew Brees

  76. Wrap2tyt says: Oct 1, 2010 5:31 PM

    … well it seems to me that it never hurts to have a few “cream-puff” teams to beat up on… helps build confidence.

  77. Thunder says: Oct 1, 2010 5:52 PM

    I get some of the feedback from my comments but how many of you would be able to go back to your jobs if you did what he did?
    Not to mention get an award for courage. Nice!

  78. Buckster222 says: Oct 1, 2010 6:04 PM

    Okay, lets just say, everyone is a little right on this story.
    1. The White people hate Mike Vick because he killed some dogs and to them dogs are above African Americans, so in their minds they feel like; the nerve of this N____ger getting a second chance and he’s about to recover the large amount he lost!
    2. I’m going to go out on a limb and say, 99% to 90% of African Americans are rejoicing the fact that Mike Vick is back in the National Football League and about to get paid again! Knowing that it irritates the hell out of White America! All to most of African Americans hate the way these mediocre at best White QB’s get over paid and over hyped! See Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Matt Cassel, Chad Henning, Alex Smith and many others!!!!!
    3. When it gets’s down to it, if the Quarter Back has no weapons he’s average at best! No matter what RACE, CREED or COLOR! You need a good defense and some offensive weapons to be an effective QB! Marino, Moon, Pre-Shannahan Elway and Dan Fouts are all fantastic QB’s that didn’t have all of these ingredients at the same time!
    The White Media is what’s really sick, because they add fuel to the fire! Knowing full well of their intentions!!!! As the saying goes, “The greatest trick the DEVIL ever pulled, is that he never existed”! Wake up people! See the “Sabotage in the Camouflage”!

  79. weezilgirl says: Oct 1, 2010 6:56 PM

    Vick won the “courage award”. JFC. I wonder if Michael Vick knows why the award is named after Ed Block.
    There are numerous players who came back to the game after what seemed to be insurmountable odds. Several should have the “courage award”.
    Here is part of his acceptance speech. He just doesn’t get where he is in the big picture.
    “I’ve overcome a lot, more than probably one single individual can handle or bear,” Vick said. “You ask certain people to walk through my shoes, they probably couldn’t do. Probably 95 percent of the people in this world because nobody had to endure what I’ve been through, situations I’ve been put in, situations I put myself in and decisions I have made, whether they have been good or bad.’
    95% of the people in this world haven’t endured anything as bad as Michael has? Says a lot about the lack of moral fiber he has. Jerk!

  80. BigBear123 says: Oct 1, 2010 7:12 PM

    Redskins is their first division opponent. Still face Dallas twice – the same team that beat the Eagles 3 times last year.
    Continue the hype, just makes his fall that much farther and sweeter to watch.

  81. eaglelover1 says: Oct 1, 2010 10:37 PM

    Why is it that white people deny there is a race problem in this country? Is that they are not bothered by it or doesn’t bother them. I think it is the latter. Most people don’t write a chec to a charity until that charities cause has effedted them.
    Racism exist in this country people please believe it. Anyone that thinks losing 2 years of your life and over 1oo MILLION dollars is not payment enough for killing a few dogs that they themselves would kill if they saw them running free on their block is a racist pure and simple.
    Dogs people, DOGS. Not children, elderly people, coworkers, neighbors……. DOGS. Get over it. RIGHT NOW Vick is playing better than all QB’s. The Ealges haven’t played any one? Well, if not for the assumed public response Vick would have started week one and the Eagles would be 3-0. What then? The Packers would have been NOT the NFC favorite to make the SB?

  82. JKAFLAGG says: Oct 1, 2010 10:42 PM

    Thanks for your long overdue perspective……Vick’s resume this years includes big games over the Lions and Jags, two teams that are virtually helpless….and while he ran up big yards and rallied his team against the Pack, he ultimately failed in the clutch…big excitement, but a loss just the same……
    ….I’m not a Vick hater; indeed, any game in which he plays is immediately more interesting and entertaining. However, let’s let him play a full schedule (including some games against teams with top defenses) before sending him to Canton with Manning & Brady…..Amazing how the media has gone from adolation in Vick’s early career to skepticism (“overrated !!!!”) in the middle, moral judgments (the prison years) and back to boot-licking adoration after a couple of good games…..

  83. Thunder says: Oct 2, 2010 12:14 AM

    Why when ever a black player gets any bad press it becomes a race issue.
    I am black and successful in a mostly white business world. I have seen very little to no racism. Why? Because I conduct myself like a civilized human.
    Most people who play the race card (black, hispanic, whatever) excpect something to be handed to them. I never did I worked my ass off and earned respect.
    I always had hope the race crap would go away as the older generation died off. They had a reason to cry racism. We do not.
    Vick is just a poor execuse for a human. period. So many people say it was only dogs. Abuse of animals is a clear sign of mental illness and if he was not caught who knows where this story could have gone.
    I wish Jack Tatum still was alive and playing he could make sure karam was severed to this POS.

  84. anton_chigur says: Oct 2, 2010 9:46 AM

    if yer not first… says: October 1, 2010 12:26 PM
    He fought dogs. It’s not like he’s a pedophile.
    Correction daddy_lover, he WATCHED dogs fight. And he also hung them, tortured them, and electrocuted them and laughed and laughed and laughed
    ————————
    I guess that you are perfect and would like the whole world to see and know everything that you have done in life?
    Ever made a mistake or done something that you are not proud of?
    Laughing and laughing and laughing….

  85. anton_chigur says: Oct 2, 2010 9:58 AM

    Meat Tuperello says: October 1, 2010 12:36 PM
    daddy_lover says: October 1, 2010 11:53 AM
    He fought dogs. It’s not like he’s a pedophile.

    Says daddy lover. Sounds like you should know a bout them.
    Either way Vick is a piece of shit and didn’t deserve another down in the NFL!
    ——————————–
    So by your logic, only perfect people who have never made a mistake in life should be allowed to play in the NFL?
    Ni__a pleeeez….

  86. Raiders757 says: Oct 2, 2010 12:58 PM

    I hope the Skins stomp a mud-hole up Vick’s ass. I live in Vick’s home town and it makes me sick to see all the ghetto thugs wearing his jersey. He’s considered some sort of hero around here for having gone to prison. It’s pathetic.

  87. BigBear123 says: Oct 3, 2010 4:10 AM

    On Philly’s first four drives, Vick tossed a 61-yard touchdown pass to DeSean Jackson but otherwise went 2-of-8 for 6 yards with a sack. After an effective two-minute drill to get an 11-point lead, Vick led two possessions that combined for seven plays by going 2-of-4 for 22 yards and a sack, with both completions coming on third-and-long and ending up short of the sticks, leading to punts. He was only particularly effective once he got the ball back again, with 5:30 left in the third quarter.
    That the Jaguars had scored only three points had nothing to do with Vick; that the Eagles had mustered only 14 was mostly on him. The great arm and athleticism are still there, and Vick has certainly improved his patience in the pocket. But it’s easy to do that against a dreadful pass defense. We won’t know much more about the player Vick actually is until we see him against better pass defenses, starting with the Washington Redskins this week.

  88. Ridge_Runner says: Oct 3, 2010 11:38 AM

    redscare says:
    Finally! I’ve been saying this since the Packers game. He’s gorging on flashy plays against some of the worst defenses in the league! Two wins against teams that are a combined 1-5!
    Don’t let facts and logic take away from this so-called “terrific” story. Vick is black after all, and criticizing a black athlete who served federal time for gambling and torturing animals to death brands you a “racist” by the douchebags that support him.

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