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Terrell Owens: First ballot Hall of Famer

It’s that part of the week where I post Florio and Rodney Harrison’s weekly chat.

Usually, I post it while in a car on the way home.  The Sunday night game mercifully ended “early” tonight so this will be my last task before leaving for the night.

This week, the guys talk about Terrell Owens’ Canton credentials, Jay Cutler’s effort against the Giants, and the surging Jets running backs.

It’s good to see Florio even suited up after being “questionable” on the injury report all week after Harrison’s big hit last Sunday night.

 
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15 Responses to “Terrell Owens: First ballot Hall of Famer”
  1. kilo31actual says: Oct 4, 2010 2:15 AM

    I wonder what team T.O. would choose to go in with if he becomes a Hall of Famer?

  2. Munze Konza says: Oct 4, 2010 3:12 AM

    I don’t care for him, but yes, he deserves the HOF and a first ballot.

  3. zoviet france says: Oct 4, 2010 4:33 AM

    even ray charles and stevie wonder can see that Terrell Owens is a first ballot Hall of Famer, don’t let your hate of the guy cloud what is clearly one of the greatest receivers to ever play in the NFL

  4. xMGMx says: Oct 4, 2010 6:05 AM

    Hall Of Fame entries should be ‘men’ who showed professionalism on and off the field. This loser could play ball, but is cleary NOT a professional or team player. It will be sad day if he enters the HOF.

  5. Duan says: Oct 4, 2010 8:55 AM

    I will say this – he’s a hall of famer because of his numbers, but he won’t make it first ballot because he has a lot of haters, plus he does not own the proverbial “Super Bowl Ring”
    But based on:
    5× All-Pro selection (2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2007)
    6× Pro Bowl selection (2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2007)
    NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
    He will make it in and he should make it in.

  6. jimmySee says: Oct 4, 2010 9:04 AM

    T.O. and Brett are on the downsides of their careers. Both are first ballot inductees. Both remain capable and threats — but neither is playing at the same level as in their prime.

  7. Deb says: Oct 4, 2010 10:39 AM

    @kilo31actual …
    Players no longer declare a team affiliation when they go into the Hall.
    Entry into the Hall is based exclusively on performance. Character is not supposed to be an issue. However, contribution as a teammate is a performance issue and T.O. has done more to undermine his teams than help them.
    No one would argue that Bill Walsh’s contributions to the game were extraordinary, but he was not a first-ballot Hall of Famer. He went in on his second year of eligibility. Dermontti Dawson was a perennial Pro Bowler and All Pro considered by many the best center ever. Last year was his first year of eligibility but he was not voted into the Hall.
    Many players who have the numbers and whose team contributions are unquestionable–Timmy Brown, Chris Carter, and Shannon Sharpe among them–have not yet gone into the Hall. Owens has the credentials and should probably be included one day. But there’s no reason for him to be in on the first ballot.
    Yesterday his team lost. Although they were down by several points, when he scored, he placed the ball right on the goal line, then took his bows. It was disrespectful to both teams. The guy is a major ass and an embarrassment to the league. He doesn’t deserve the honor of a first-ballot induction.

  8. ItalianStallion says: Oct 4, 2010 10:47 AM

    He’s as much of a first ballot hall of famer as Cris Carter and look how that’s turned out for him.

  9. StillMadAtSlobber says: Oct 4, 2010 11:14 AM

    first ballot, never.
    HOF later, yes.
    He gets to wait for being a jackass as a player, undermining teams he was on, etc.

  10. allthevagiqueensgexcuses says: Oct 4, 2010 11:32 AM

    TO is 10x the professional cris hypoCarter was. TO may have thrown a few ex qbs under the bus but never a young impressionable teammate WR. I like randy moss and think he’s largely misunderstood. I do believe a big motivation behind MOSS career has been hypocarter slamming him when he was younger. moss has always ALWAYS went the extra mile for the kids.
    not to mention Moss never beet up any women, did lines off strippers, never told an 8 year old kid “i don’t just sign autographs kid, I’m a professional athlete”, or hid behind this completely “cristian” persona. TO deserves to go in 5 ballots before hypoCarter.

  11. rbais2 says: Oct 4, 2010 12:09 PM

    The cancer argument is a bogus argument because not everything breaks down because of 1 thing.
    Face it! In San Francisco, management fired someone better Dennis Erickson and never enforced discipline. When Mariucci was the coach even Jerry Rice screamed at him on the game where T.O. stood on the star. Members of that coaching staff sucked at disciplining other players too. Look at Jim Mora and Gregg Knapp as they were too cowardly to discipline Michael Vick (who recently confessed to Mora that he lacked good study and work habits as one his players in Atlanta).
    In Philly, McNabb had the sports hernia affecting his season, Derrick Burgess (who left for Oakland to rack up a league leading 16 sack season) and Corey Simon were not properly replaced on defense.
    In Dallas, Parcells sucked in 2006! Look at his defense versus Wade Phillips’. He’s no good w/o Belichick! In 2008, the o-line was bad w/o a guy we’ve seen absent recently, Kyle Kosier. BTW, the defense gave up too many big plays and sucked under the eventually demoted and fired Brian Stewart. Special teams sucked, leading them to hire Joe DeCamillis as its coach. Also, after Parcells left the team only fined players $100 for being late to meetings or practice when they were as high as $15,000 under Parcells. Oh, that really preps up a team to be very disciplined.
    The cancer argument is a bogus off-the-field that is rediculously passed as a legitimate obstacle when it should not be. Reason being is that you’re claiming that you’re psychic and you really knew what distracted the players. You’re also claiming that every employer is EXTREMELY STRICT and no employee ever goes out of control.
    Lawrence Taylor and Charles Haley were nut cases and distractions, but their teammates just happened to work their butts off. It just happened to be that Owens’ teammates screwed around and were not as talented as L.T.’s. They just weren’t. Get it?
    You know, I just love how arguments to keep a guy out or to be passed as legitimate obstacles come from someone that told Deadspin that he had “s***ty argument[s]” and confessed on The Dan Patrick show that he was “not a very good” lawyer.
    The reason to keep T.O. out should be more legitimate and be based more on football; not on arguments that would come from men who act more feminine and uptight than Rachel McAdams in ‘Mean Girls’ (never saw it, but I know she’s in it and her character is mean). The cancer argument is a phony one that is used to keep a guy out because of his image. Just confess this because I know it’s true and so do all of the Hall of Fame voters.

  12. rbais2 says: Oct 4, 2010 12:10 PM

    The cancer argument is a bogus argument because not everything breaks down because of 1 thing.
    Face it! In San Francisco, management fired someone better Dennis Erickson and never enforced discipline. When Mariucci was the coach even Jerry Rice screamed at him on the game where T.O. stood on the star. Members of that coaching staff sucked at disciplining other players too. Look at Jim Mora and Gregg Knapp as they were too cowardly to discipline Michael Vick (who recently confessed to Mora that he lacked good study and work habits as one his players in Atlanta).
    In Philly, McNabb had the sports hernia affecting his season, Derrick Burgess (who left for Oakland to rack up a league leading 16 sack season) and Corey Simon were not properly replaced on defense.
    In Dallas, Parcells sucked in 2006! Look at his defense versus Wade Phillips’. He’s no good w/o Belichick! In 2008, the o-line was bad w/o a guy we’ve seen absent recently, Kyle Kosier. BTW, the defense gave up too many big plays and sucked under the eventually demoted and fired Brian Stewart. Special teams sucked, leading them to hire Joe DeCamillis as its coach. Also, after Parcells left the team only fined players $100 for being late to meetings or practice when they were as high as $15,000 under Parcells. Oh, that really preps up a team to be very disciplined.
    The cancer argument is a bogus off-the-field that is rediculously passed as a legitimate obstacle when it should not be. Reason being is that you’re claiming that you’re psychic and you really knew what distracted the players. You’re also claiming that every employer is EXTREMELY STRICT and no employee ever goes out of control.
    Lawrence Taylor and Charles Haley were nut cases and distractions, but their teammates just happened to work their butts off. It just happened to be that Owens’ teammates screwed around and were not as talented as L.T.’s. They just weren’t. Get it?
    You know, I just love how arguments to keep a guy out or to be passed as legitimate obstacles come from someone that told Deadspin that he had “s***ty argument[s]” and confessed on The Dan Patrick show that he was “not a very good” lawyer.
    The reason to keep T.O. out should be more legitimate and be based more on football; not on arguments that would come from men who act more feminine and uptight than Rachel McAdams in ‘Mean Girls’ (never saw it, but I know she’s in it and her character is mean). The cancer argument is a phony one that is used to keep a guy out because of his image. Just confess this because I know it’s true and so do all of the Hall of Fame voters.

  13. somesome says: Oct 4, 2010 12:15 PM

    Number two of the all time receiving list. HoF first time ballot.
    Will it happen, guess not people are contrived.
    I don’t like TO, to self centered but he never had any stupid off field issues, such as DUIs, arrests, etc.
    Not getting in the first time because of being a prick??? Don’t know but some people are just catty ….

  14. Deb says: Oct 4, 2010 1:26 PM

    @rbias2 …
    Florio didn’t write the article, so what does his legal prowess as related to Dead Spin have to do with Gregg Rosenthal’s comments?
    The Hall of Fame voters are sports journalists, many of whom have confessed to making voting decisions based on some incredibly petty criteria. If I were you, I wouldn’t place a lot of stock in what they know and don’t know.
    Your assertions about feminine thinking are interesting. Are you female? If not, I doubt that you know anything about feminine thinking.
    Inclusion in the Hall of Fame is based on your performance on the field. I believe that should also include your contribution to your team and to the sport at the time you played. To me, that’s more important than statistics. Otherwise, how can you compare a receiver in the days of run-first to a receiver in the days of the West Coast Offense or the Run and Shoot. Their stats will be vastly different. But the receiver from the old days may have made a more meaningful contribution to the game than the receiver with the better stats.
    Did T.O. help get a great team to one or more championships as Andre Reed did? Did he make flamboyant catches in crucial games that helped his team win multiple championships like Lynn Swann? Was he part of a historic offense like Reed, Swann, Stallworth, Rice, and Moss? Did he redefine his position like Kellen Winslow? Like Steve Largent, is his the one name you remember from a no-name team because of his standout talent and professionalism?
    No. No, no, and no.
    He’s the guy you’re trying to rewrite history to defend. He’s the guy who looked out for himself and only himself in every circumstance. He’s the guy who put his own records ahead of the good of the team. He’s the guy who undermined the confidence of his quarterbacks to get personal publicity.
    If, as somesome said, he’d been arrested for some off-field incident or drug problem like Lawrence Taylor, I wouldn’t argue his first-ballot status. Whatever else he did, LT took care of his team and his teammates. TO has undermined the good of his team. That is a PERFORMANCE issue and it should keep him off the first ballot.
    I don’t care what else happened in those locker rooms. It doesn’t change HIS grandstanding at everyone else’s expense … a tradition he’s continuing with his current team.

  15. Terrell Blowens says: Oct 4, 2010 4:01 PM

    From a numbers standpoint, he totally deserves it. But his career has been… a roller coaster to say the least, and he has messed up every good situation he’s been in. Which team would honor his career? Maybe SF, but I have a feeling they don’t want to be associated with T.O.

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