Brad Childress on possible Randy Moss trade: "I'm watching film"

Welcome back to Randy Moss night at PFT, sponsored by Bill Simmons’ Twitter account

Here’s the latest:

ESPN’s Adam Schefter and others have backed up the report from FOX’s Jay Glazer that the Vikings and Patriots are talking about a possible Randy Moss trade.  No deal appears imminent, however, and Florio reported Moss and the Vikings have not talked about a possible contract as of 8:00 p.m. ET.

Our old friend Tom Curran, now of Comcast SportsNet New England, got in touch with Vikings coach Brad Childress Tuesday night.

“I don’t know anything about it. I’m watching film. I’m just sitting here watching the Jets and Patriots play,” Childress said.  

(It’s worth noting Childress also told his coaching staff to clumsily lie about players visiting Brett Favre in Mississippi back in August.)

Curran has two Patriots sources that shot down reports of a deal.  He admits things could ultimately change, but he believes there is nothing brewing at this time.  Curran spoke with Moss after Monday night’s game and Moss was “more engaging” than he’d ever seen him.

Other reports out of Boston suggest a different attitude from Moss.  Karen Guregian of the Boston Herald reports that Moss requested a trade after the team’s Week One victory.  Gary Tanguay of Comcast has sources claiming Moss and coach Bill Belichick “had words” on Tuesday.

Finally, Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com wrote something that also popped into my mind.  A Moss deal only makes sense from the Patriots perspective if the team gets a Richard Seymour-like bounty in return:  a first-round pick.

It’s unlike the Patriots to dump a player at less than full value, no matter how much that player wants to get paid.

UPDATE: Glazer says there was trade talk even before Monday night’s Patriots game.

74 responses to “Brad Childress on possible Randy Moss trade: "I'm watching film"

  1. Unless they can get a younger Vincent Jackson off the Chargers. I do not see the Patriots leaving Brady without a #1 WR.

  2. tom curran is speaking as a patriots fan
    no way no how they get a first round pick for a 33 year old Moss when Vincent Jackson and Brandon Marshall in the prime of their careers couldn’t garner one.

  3. Since when is the going price for a 33 year old WR a first-round pick? Brandon Marshall was only worth 2nds, and he is in his absolute prime. My prediction is a third-rounder, and maybe a conditional 2012 pick up to a third.

  4. If Brett Favre and Brad Chilress get their old @sses on Moss I will actually give up on football. The Apocolpse is here my friends, and the football world as we know it will never be the same.

  5. “Curran has two Patriots sources that shot down reports of a deal.”
    When has Tom Curran ever been right about anything?

  6. If Chilly is denying it, you know it’s true. And we know the Patriots are proven liars and cheaters.
    I see the Vikings giving the Patriots whatever they want. They won’t leave Favre will the blue balls again. He would go into such a rage as to finally tear down that dump of a stadium…with his bare hands.

  7. “I’m watching film. I’m just sitting here watching the Jets and Patriots play,” Childress said.
    Why the Pats vs the Jets?
    Moss vs Revis?
    BTW, the deal isnt for a 1st rounder. The 2 reports rumored are a 3rd and a conditional 4th, and a 3rd and a player, which names Benard Berrian and Ray Edwards are coming out.

  8. Yeah, I’m definitely taking Schefter and Glazer’s words over Tommy Curran.
    Hell, I’ll even takes Simmons words over Tommy Curran. For that matter I’ll take Simmons, Schefters’ and Glazer’s words over Belichick and Childress as well.
    Where there is smoke there is fire. It may not ultimately get done, but there are definitely talks between the two teams.

  9. Childress is watching film? Like… Leatherheads?
    He couldn’t even learn that that was a horrendous film from studying it.
    The Parking Meter Attendants in Minneapolis are on watch.
    Randy “Straight Cash, Homie!” Moss might be coming home.

  10. Edwards or a 3rd round pick that’s it. The pats have a situation that’s going to get ugly if they don’t dump Moss now. It will be interesting to see what the Vikings give up for good ole 84.

  11. …Meanwhile, in Green Bay…
    Ted Thompson sits alone in his office memorizing flash cards with the other 31 teams Practice Squad rosters.
    ( There’s a game changing RB and Safety there somewhere…he just knows it)

  12. Franchise says: October 5, 2010 10:49 PM
    “”I’m watching film. I’m just sitting here watching the Jets and Patriots play,” Childress said.
    Why the Pats vs the Jets?
    Moss vs Revis?”
    Hmmm, why the Pats v the Jets. Probably because the Vikings play the Patriots next. Just a thought though

  13. Vikings 8-8 with or without Moss. The Vikings need a QB before they need players who catch.

  14. “It’s unlike the patriots to dump a player at less than full value,” really?!
    The Patriots traded away QB matt Cassel AND LB Mike Vrabel for a 2nd round pick.
    A WR in his mid 30s, in a contract year should NOT get a 1st round pick in return.
    MN was willing to give the Chargers a 2nd round & a conditional mid-round pick for V-Jackson. Why would they give up a 1st rounder for Moss?
    No Way! Miami did not give up a 1st rounder for Brandon Marshall, who is 6-7 years younger.
    MN should the Pats conditional picks based on how Moss performs. A 2nd rounder AT BEST!

  15. if Moss leaves as a free agent, dont the Pats get a 3rd rounder anyway? why get rid of him now for less than that or equal??

  16. no. no. and no.
    not with the way minnie dumped randy over culpepper. i hope the vikes don’t get him. he’d sure be a good spark to rally the troops with. one would hope the patriots at least rape the vikings with this…. ray edwards, a 3rd (minimum) and berrian. one would hope randy realizes brady still relatively in his prime is much better at giving him the randy ratio over the over the hill pick thrower extraordinaire.

  17. He’s watching pats film of moss to see if he has anything left in the tank. Pats need defense, they get part of the Williams wall for moss.

  18. I really doubt the Pats would be interested in Ray Edwards. He would be an undersized 3-4 DE and he’s going to want serious $$ after this year. As for Berrian, I would be shocked if the Pats have any interest in him considering his lack of production/skill and high salary(perhaps Florio can comment on his base salary this year and next, maybe its not as bad as I recall). I would venture a guess and say the Pats are asking for a 3rd and a conditional while the Vikes are offering Berrian or Edwards. In the end, this should not happen for more than a 3rd. Whatever it is, this deal must be really close to happening…it would explain why they sent Jayme Mitchell to Cleveland…clearing a roster spot for Moss. Come on home baby!!

  19. Gary Tanguay is the least knowledgeable, least respected and least likely to have sources of the entire community of sports media members. It is amazing that this fool is given a platform to spout his nonsense, and it is typical that he would jump on the rumor bandwagon in an attempt to get a few more people to watch his idiotic show.

  20. Berrian and a 3rd. Conditional 4th if he signs an extension. Berrian gives them (Pats) a deep threat and it opens cap space for the Vikings. The Vikings traded DE Jayme Mitchell, who was productive and young, so there is no way they trade away Ray Edwards. If they did, they’d have to start Griffen (rookie) or Robison, and they both aren’t ready. This is going to be great. Moon over Lambeau Pt. II

  21. Sumeria says:
    …Meanwhile, in Green Bay…
    Ted Thompson sits alone in his office memorizing flash cards with the other 31 teams Practice Squad rosters.
    ( There’s a game changing RB and Safety there somewhere…he just knows it)
    ————————————————–
    Good ‘ol Ted.
    Couldnt even part with a 4th rounder to help that non existant run game to grab Marshawn Lynch.
    They lost to a crappy Bears team, and should have last week to the Kitties too.
    Wait and see what happens when they play real teams.
    The D will give up 40, and Erin Rodgers will have to turtle like a school girl in a locker room with Crank of Shank.

  22. BTW, the deal isnt for a 1st rounder. The 2 reports rumored are a 3rd and a conditional 4th, and a 3rd and a player, which names Benard Berrian and Ray Edwards are coming out.
    ____________________________________
    Both possibilities make sense for the Vikings, but the second is the best option for the Pats. Berrian hasn’t exactly lit things up for the Vikes, so losing him to get Moss isn’t exactly something they would balk at. Edwards is a quality pass rusher, but the Vikes are deep at that position. Their backups could start on most teams. Sure they’d miss Edwards, but they could get by without him, and it would be one less player they’d have to find a way to pay next year (of course, they’d be paying Moss more I’m sure). The one thing the Pats could use more than anything is someone to improve their pass rush. Edwards is thriving in the 4-3. Can he do as well or better in the 3-4? Who knows, but if he can, it’s a great move for the Pats if they don’t plan on signing Moss to an extension anyway.

  23. If anyone needs a left testicle (high mileage, but a great runner), I think I am obliged to give mine away when Moss comes back.

  24. People comparing a Moss trade to the Marshall and Jackson situations miss some key points. The Patriots could keep Moss for the year, let him go in free agency, and get a third round compensatory pick. I don’t see them letting him go for less than first round value plus something extra. Why give up Moss to just move up two rounds? Brady would not understand that move. They would need the equivalent of Ray Edwards and a second or third. Brady would understand Moss forcing a trade to get his payday and the threat of a disruption is the only good reason to let him go cheap. The NFL is a business.

  25. # allthevagiqueensgexcuses says: October 5, 2010 11:10 PM
    no. no. and no.
    not with the way minnie dumped randy over culpepper. i hope the vikes don’t get him. he’d sure be a good spark to rally the troops with. one would hope the patriots at least rape the vikings with this…. ray edwards, a 3rd (minimum) and berrian. one would hope randy realizes brady still relatively in his prime is much better at giving him the randy ratio over the over the hill pick thrower extraordinaire.
    ___________________________________
    You seem to forget that Moss is actually a fan of Favre, and Favre is a fan of Moss. They developed quite a bit of respect for each other playing against each other. While all reports are that Moss and Brady have developed a close friendship, I doubt that Moss would be too upset about getting one last chance to play with the QB he always wanted to work with. As for what the Pats would get in a trade, considering Moss’ age and the fact that he’s in the final year of his contract, I figure a 3rd and Berrian or Edwards (not both) would be the high end of the price range. Maybe a second conditional pick the following year. The Vikes would probably rather lose Berrian, but the Pats would probably rather have Edwards. In Edwards case, he’d be missed, but they have players that can fill his spot already.

  26. I’ve never seen a PFT column with so many statements that are lies.
    The two biggest lies:
    1. Brad Childress saying he knows nothing about it. He knows whether trade talks have been going on or not.
    2. Curran saying after Monday night’s game, he found Moss to be more engaging then ever, therefore, he doesn’t believe there is a trade in the works. WELL THEN, why would Moss have been so engaging following a game in which he had ZERO receptions? Unless of course, he’s upbeat because a trade is in the works.

  27. Why not just trade the value of what it was going to take to get Vincent Jackson or maybe something a little less? Then the Pats can use that to go get Vincent Jackson?

  28. Can I please play Texas Hold ‘Em with Brad Childress? The guy has the worst poker face since George Costanza.

  29. Helloooo… Wouldnt the Pats get a 3rd if they KEEP Moss and he leaves as a FA??? why would they get rid of him for the same??? Im serious, does anyone know?

  30. Guys, Marshall got $50MM and Jackson will require a monster contract as well. Moss is being paid $9MM this year and would not be looking for more than an additional two years at money similar to what he is making now. Moss is more mature than both players who have significant risk (Marshall’s attitude and Jackson’s drug suspension).

  31. Vontae Davis covered Moss with little help and not much problem. He’s lost two steps. No catches cuz he couldn’t get open. Yeah Vikings, give them Kevin Williams.

  32. 12+81=7 says:
    October 5, 2010 11:02 PM
    Franchise says: October 5, 2010 10:49 PM
    “”I’m watching film. I’m just sitting here watching the Jets and Patriots play,” Childress said.
    Why the Pats vs the Jets?
    Moss vs Revis?”
    Hmmm, why the Pats v the Jets. Probably because the Vikings play the Patriots next. Just a thought though
    Heres a thought…CHECK YOUR SCHEDULE

  33. My fantasy team is gettin better overnight! I can see it now……Moss:”Just chuck it up and I’ll go get it dog! Favre: “That’s what I’ve been waitin for……let’s get er done!!” Vikings 35 Jets 21 Is it Monday yet??

  34. # Kevin DuBrow says: October 5, 2010 11:43 PM
    Helloooo… Wouldnt the Pats get a 3rd if they KEEP Moss and he leaves as a FA??? why would they get rid of him for the same??? Im serious, does anyone know?
    _____________________________
    How would the Pats get a 3rd round pick if they lose Moss to free agency. They didn’t draft him, and they only gave up a fourth to get him. I thought the deal was that you get less than what you used to get them.

  35. Watching film? Does it have subtitles. Are there more than 7 offensive plays? If there is, he won’t watch it for long.

  36. What a bunch of yahoos you Vikes fans are. Minnesota is desperate. They gave Favre 20 million bucks to come back and win the Super Bowl. Unfortunately, he misses Sidney Rice and just isn’t the same guy without him.
    So, the Vikings are in the unenviable position of being desperate for something that Bill Belichick has-Randy Moss. Let me ask all of you a question. And, please, try to be objective. Who would you bet on in a poker game between Brad Childress and Bill Belichick? Belichick has the Vikes’ nuts in a vice here.
    He has no need to trade Randy Moss. He controls him until the end of the season. He has shown with Logan Mankins that he will do without anybody if it suits him. Moss has no leverage. The Vikings have no leverage. Therefore, expect nothing less than a 1st rounder to New England for Moss if this happens.
    As for Vincent Jackson going to the Patriots, I doubt San Diego deals him to an in-conference rival that they may end up facing twice this year. This will end up being Moss to the Vikes for at least a 1st, and maybe more. And that will be it. Unless there’s a little wink wink nudge nudge agreement that Moss will miss the Pats/Vikes game on Halloween.

  37. What does it matter?
    Childress still wouldn’t know how to use his talent if they got him.
    If they want to maximize potential with Moss. They should probably put in T-Jack. Cuz Favre hasn’t done much, if anything, he couldn’t.

  38. # Kevin DuBrow says: October 5, 2010 11:43 PM
    Helloooo… Wouldnt the Pats get a 3rd if they KEEP Moss and he leaves as a FA??? why would they get rid of him for the same??? Im serious, does anyone know?
    “I say”:
    No, because of his age there would be no compensatory pick. Add to that that there isn’t guaranteed to be a CBA that contemplates such a system of compensatory picks going forward.
    What the Patriots will get if they don’t trade him by the deadline is a disgruntled Moss in the locker room all year and a few solid memories.

  39. Gotta love this if it works out. Now I can pull my old Moss jersey out of the rag pile.
    Adding a “true” deep threat (Barrian…ya plz) will only help Peterson. Can you imagine him running the ball without 9 in the box?

  40. IlovetheVikes: If the Vikings couldn’t meet the Chargers’ trade demands for VJ, why would they give those same draft picks to the Patriots for Randy Moss? And why would the Chargers trade VJ to an AFC rival?

  41. “Hmmm, why the Pats v the Jets. Probably because the Vikings play the Patriots next. Just a thought though”
    The Vikings play the Jets next. Thanks for playing.

  42. i could see the redskins trying to engage talks about randy moss dmac needs a number #1 and the skins are trying to unload dt and fat al……

  43. the day Red Mccombs traded away Randy (out of spite as he stepped out the door, mind you) was one of the worst days I can recall. I wore black for 3 months.
    C’mon back, Randy. We missed you!!!!
    >

  44. there is no way the chargers trade vjax to the pats…our pinhead GM aj smith doesnt want to make a contender better…trading him to the rams sounds a lot better

  45. Moss to the Vikings = Superbowl appearence for the Vikings…they won’t win..they’ll fall to the jets or steelers.

  46. @kevin dubrow: no they would not get a 3rd round, he has too many years in, he is over 10 seasons. They will at most get a 5th round, just like the steelers got when faneca left and went probowl with jets. Bumb rap I know. So if ne is not resigning moss, anything more than a 5th is golden. Yes this would apply to brady and manning as well.

  47. They would get a compensatory pick if they lose more in value in free agents than what they sign in the offseason. Contract value is the biggest indicator used. IE…they lose Moss at $5m a season, and sign a free agent WR @ $3M a season, they have lost $2M worth of receiver, so they’d get a compensatory pick. No way they’d get a 3rd rounder though. Probably a 5th or 6th at best, assuming they sign other players.
    Also…for those that say the Pats get Berrian and/or Edwards at best, you’ve got to be joking. Edwards is a 4-3 end, not a 3-4 end, and he’s no OLB. Berrian can’t catch a cold.
    You guys are the same people who would offer up a crap WR and crap RB in exchange for a stud RB in fantasy football, then bitch when the counter-offer was a slap in your face. Giving up 2 pieces of crap you don’t want for something you not only want, but desperately NEED doesn’t fly.

  48. Sumeria says:
    October 5, 2010 10:58 PM
    …Meanwhile, in Green Bay…
    Ted Thompson sits alone in his office memorizing flash cards with the other 31 teams Practice Squad rosters.
    ( There’s a game changing RB and Safety there somewhere…he just knows it)
    _______________________________
    Thier names the year GB made it to the NFCCG were Ryan Grant and Atari Bigby. Just cuz Minn. needs to trade for a SECOND reciever, because they didn’t do it right the first time, don’t hold that against the Packers and TT.

  49. To quote P.A.:
    Oh My Heavens!
    To get Favre was one thing, but to get Favre AND Moss with that Defense and Adrian Peterson.
    WOW.
    To quote the ’99 Vikings NFL films ‘Never Surrender’:
    These were the same Minnesota Vikings who just one year earlier had treated their fans to one of the greatest seasons in franchise history… Change was in the air… there was just too much talent to waste.
    It’s Super Bowl or Bust now Home Boy.
    Minnesotamomentum.com
    Supporter!
    The Vikings come from the Land of Ice and Snow, NOT sunscreen and botox.

  50. Moss for a 3rd and DE (Edwards) seems to be fair, and helps nullify any notion of keeping a disgruntled Moss for a season and getting a 3rd when he walks in FA.

  51. “Why would they give up a 1st rounder for Moss?

    Of course, because Brett says so and he runs the team!

  52. Why even call Childress? If you want answers, call the defacto GM, BrINT Favre. When he isn’t busy sending pixs of himself in his crocs, he is willing to make trades that look good in the newspapers but not so good on the field.
    Calm down with the Superbowl predictions, there is a reason that the Vikings went 50 years without winning one and stupid trades are at or near the top of the list.

  53. He has no need to trade Randy Moss. He controls him until the end of the season. He has shown with Logan Mankins that he will do without anybody if it suits him. Moss has no leverage. The Vikings have no leverage. Therefore, expect nothing less than a 1st rounder to New England for Moss if this happens.
    ==========================
    Nice call on this turd breath. He went for a 3rd!

  54. Fantasia says:
    October 6, 2010 5:08 AM
    Is Moss still in the NFL?
    I guess he is.
    Has-been/troublem aker.
    jimmySee says:
    October 6, 2010 6:48 AM
    “Why would they give up a 1st rounder for Moss?

    Of course, because Brett says so and he runs the team!
    JimmySmith says:
    October 6, 2010 7:49 AM
    Why even call Childress? If you want answers, call the defacto GM, BrINT Favre. When he isn’t busy sending pixs of himself in his crocs, he is willing to make trades that look good in the newspapers but not so good on the field.
    Calm down with the Superbowl predictions, there is a reason that the Vikings went 50 years without winning one and stupid trades are at or near the top of the list.
    =================================
    I think they’re getting the fear, man!

  55. My fantasy team is gettin better overnight! I can see it now……Moss:”Just chuck it up and I’ll go get it dog! Favre: “That’s what I’ve been waitin for……let’s get er done!!” Vikings 35 Jets 21 Is it Monday yet??
    —————————
    Man, it’s puff-puff-pass, you don’t smoke the whole thing or you end up saying asinine things. Because Tom Brady couldn’t just chuck it up for Moss?

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