Comments on: Ben Roethlisberger: "I contemplated not playing any more"

By: Deb

Deb — Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:54:28 +0000

@SeaSteel …
Thank you–I enjoy your posts, too. You’re right. Part of me just finds it impossible to accept the idea of willful ignorance. And as a world-class procrastinator, I never seem to find the stack of work on my desk quite as interesting as answering the basement badasses. Will keep working to improve on that

By: SeaSteel

SeaSteel — Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:22:25 +0000

@ Deb
I always appreciate your posts – you pulled me up short awhile back – but at some point you have to accept that you’re dealing with WILLFUL
ignorance on this issue. There’s no fact-based statement that you can post here that can override the “my team rules, your team has never legitimately won a game” mind set of the average poster here. You take too much abuse from basement badasses. Let ‘em stew, their teams will never be as interesting to them as their Steeler envy.
GO STEELERS!

By: Deb

Deb — Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:03:38 +0000

@LostSok …
Wow … you are soooo smart!!! Too bad you were smart enough to read any of the case facts before you started practicing pop psychology. The man didn’t rape anyone or abuse anyone. That’s why the medical exam showed there was no intercourse and the woman didn’t have a mark on her and she changed her story umpteen times. And that’s why the DA said they had nothing and didn’t even arrest the guy.
I’ll bet you flunked psychology … reading comprehension … and social sciences.

By: LostSok

LostSok — Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:37:13 +0000

A lot of rapist and abusers of woman play the victim card when things go south. It’s part of the psychology. He’s a bully. All bullies become crybabies when they’re called out. I’ll bet he blamed the smaller kid whose money he was stealing when the teacher caught him, too.

By: smithopher

smithopher — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:53:56 +0000

steeler-lady – who’s kyle elway?

By: Steeler-lady

Steeler-lady — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:25:29 +0000

lol Kyle Elway had affairs on his wife…lol at least Ben is single!
Yall are a bunch of crackheads..You got fans from the ravens talkin shit when they have a murderer playing on their team ,then we got fans who think Ben isnt a good football player (altho hes ranked with the best of them most of the time)..lol Heres my favorite… I went to college with him..LMAO…………………………….
Rhino when your accused in both cases with NO EVIDENCE in either case it makes the women look like some gold digging HO’s! The one woman doesnt want justice she needs some cash…3millionto be exact.The other chick didnt even pursue once the DNA came out……….Her parents prolly found out that dna was another mans.
Yall are assholes…. you say he never denied any wrong doing.. he does deny it and yall call him a liar..
In the Mcnutty case he countersues her ,and fights the allegations and hes still bein accused of paying off…….. fkn wackos!

By: rhino5551212

rhino5551212 — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 20:21:04 +0000

Dude, when you’re accused once and everything seems shaky on both sides it’s one thing. When the questionable behaviour continues it makes you look like a sociopath.

By: Bump

Bump — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:58:44 +0000

@ Troy P’s Hair:
You watch to much CSI.

By: Jack Lambert's Dentist

Jack Lambert's Dentist — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:42:32 +0000

Grumpy Old Man, time to change your Depends. Sitting in your own excrement is making you a cranky old coot.

By: SeaSteel

SeaSteel — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:31:17 +0000

Always amazing how many people have time to post angry and ugly comments about a player and a team that they supposedly can’t stand. Too bad the teams that they support can’t hold their attention.
Go Steelers!

By: seventhheaven7

seventhheaven7 — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:26:20 +0000

All you anti Big Ben fans are PATHETIC in your comments. Jealous fans, u make me laugh…..None of you wasn’t there.
People that dare to chant anti-Ben things at away games, Big Ben will make you pay dearly. Although, steeler fans are probably half the stadium anyways.
Steeler Nation Dares you and we will be holding our 7th Lombardi Trophy. Bank on it.

By: siss

siss — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:52:39 +0000

DO NOT base ANYTHING on what you read on BSPN.
They did not show the entire press conference. So here the exact quote from the DA
Q: What about probable cause though?
A: I live in the world of ‘beyond a reasonable doubt.’ An honest answer: It’s debatable. If you want my candid feeling, looking at all the evidence here, we don’t even have probable cause. Probable cause is the standard to make an arrest, and we did not have probable cause. No arrest was made in this case, so there’s no warrant to dismiss. We didn’t even have probable cause in this case.
There is no victim in this case. Did Ben make some bad choices? Yes and he would probably be the first to admit that.
Oh and look at this little tid bit from the DA’s press conference
Q: Is this case officially closed now? Or if more information surfaces will you re-open the investigation?
A: It’s closed. I’ve made my decision and that’s final. It’s not going to change. I’ll tell you this: We’re still waiting on some phone records, text messages. There’s nothing going to be enlightening there. I’ve got enough information. This decision was not difficult to reach. I knew pretty early on that this was the way this case was going, but I pride myself on keeping an open mind. I wanted to make sure that we made the right decision. That’s critical. But to answer your question, it’s closed. We’re still waiting on a few bits and pieces but it won’t change anything. It’s closed.
http://pit.scout.com/2/961691.html

By: Deb

Deb — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:08:45 +0000

@Bdrunk …
Amen to that.
And unlike Grumpy Old Goat, you know some of these fans have some morals and care more about the fact that he didn’t assault anyone than they do about trying to influence the outcome of a game by ranting about a false accusation. Grumpy pretends such moral concern, but doesn’t care that children watch football, does he? Bitter Browns fan.

By: Bdrunk

Bdrunk — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:57:53 +0000

Grumpy Old Man says:
October 8, 2010 10:57 AM
Again, totally blown away by the “Do whatever it
takes to win” attitude of the consentlessburger apologists
LOL – you are all pathetic
Would love it if consentlessburger’s first game back was in Baltimore, Cincinnati or Cleveland – The jeers would be deafening
Imagine 70,000 Ravens, Bengals, Browns fans yelling BEN IS A PIG!!! over and over and over and over and over
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Grats, you just confirmed that it’s all about the football rivalry. Now that’s pathetic.
Also, Cincy couldn’t get 70k of their own fans into a stadium if the tickets were free.

By: Mrsteve

Mrsteve — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 13:25:36 +0000

What a bunch of hogwash that interview was.
I contemplated not playing, yeah right.
Then when he looked off to the right when he said he didn’t ever do anything bad to a woman. That’s a sign of not telling the truth.
He will be accused of sexual assault again within the next 5 yrs.

By: Deb

Deb — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:52:49 +0000

@pageant-judge …
Thank you for a thoughtful post and also appreciated your story about the Favre autographs. People are seldom all good and all bad. Life is more complex than that, and as Paul wrote in the Roman letter, we all fall far short of the ideal. God bless in your endeavors.
Roll Tide!!

By: .RebaT

.RebaT — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:48:11 +0000

Deb,
Stop writing books like Gone With the Wind on here. yada yadayada yadayada yadayada yadayada yadayada yadayada yadayada yadayada yadayada yadayada yadayada yadayada yadayada yada
And who has actually said that Ben will play Cleveland? No comments from the Rooneys or Tomlin. 3-1 record without him? hmmm. Don’t need him!! We would not have lost to Balto if the field goal kicker could actually kick!!

By: feetball

feetball — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:47:23 +0000

With all due respect, isn’t this a football forum? Seems like WAY too much personal information.

By: Deb

Deb — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:32:24 +0000

@edgy1957 ... Fred Bright's news conference announcing the findings of the investigation was on April 12. Your attack on me was posted on May 4. Several commenters posted about the DTF pin on that very thread. I was joking and even expressing affection to you throughout that thread when you suddenly turned and attacked. Here's the link: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/03/roethlisberger-spent-weekend-in-a-clinic/ About these grand defenses ... I believe twice prior to May 4, you told people I had a right to state my views when they were calling me c***, wh***, b****, and suggesting I'd like to be gang-raped on urine-soaked floors, and have Ben's baby, yada yada. That was the extent of your championing. It was appreciated, but let's not get carried away. No one searching this site will find any "defense" from you after May 4. And now you've started blathering the same nonsense about me "wanting" Ben. No one with an IQ in triple digits would get that from my posts. I do not want or need your sympathy or anyone else's. I do not expect an apology for your behavior. It takes a MAN to admit his own shortcomings. I don't give a damn whether you or anyone else believes my story. I lived it and have nothing to prove to anyone on a blog. I'd just like to be able to stop gagging on your hypocrisy as proclaim yourself the Defender of Fair Womanhood, Truth, Justice, and the American Way. None of this has been about anything but your personal dislike for Ben Roethlisberger and/or the Pittsburgh Steelers. You trampled me to take shots at a football player. Period. You can continue to throw tantrums, screaming LIAR and HYPOCRITE and try to distort reality. But that post is dated and so are the news stories on Fred Bright's press conference. Your decision to beat up on that nasty Deb for picking on the poor lil victim came almost a full month after the authorities announced there was no merit to her accusations. And nowhere in that thread was I beating up on her. I was simply stating the facts as released by the authorities.

By: Grumpy Old Man

Grumpy Old Man — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:57:37 +0000

Again, totally blown away by the “Do whatever it
takes to win” attitude of the consentlessburger apologists
LOL – you are all pathetic
Would love it if consentlessburger’s first game back was in Baltimore, Cincinnati or Cleveland – The jeers would be deafening
Imagine 70,000 Ravens, Bengals, Browns fans yelling BEN IS A PIG!!! over and over and over and over and over

By: weix

weix — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:09:42 +0000

as a steeler fan i wish he would have

By: bigpat

bigpat — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:06:16 +0000

Quit defending this guy. At a minimum he’s a pig for the way he continually mistreats young women. Now he’s a crybaby too. “Poor, poor me. Wahhh!” Men, lock up your daughters if Big Ben Bathroomburglar is in town.

By: Troy p's hair

Troy p's hair — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 08:33:36 +0000

Stupidity is running rampant on this website and the people who read it. Did any of you people bother to read the police reports? There was no DNA evidence to support proceeding with a case against Ben Roethlisberger. Had he come close to sexually assaulting this “woman” there would have at least been a hair, or a skin cell, or something.
I think some of you need to consider walking a day in someone else’s shoes before condeming them and judging them. Ray Lewis was accused of murder and now nobody seems to hold that against him. Maybe if Ben played for the Lions, or a team that wasn’t a threat to your team, it wouldn’t matter. Some of you people need to get a life and move on. You may find yourself in the same situation someday, if karma catches up with you. The Bible says “Judge not, lest ye be judged”.

By: Jack Burton

Jack Burton — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 08:22:34 +0000

Roethlisberger to Wallace for a TD on the first drive, bank it.

By: DanRooney

DanRooney — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 03:51:34 +0000

Crabcake says:
October 7, 2010 6:12 PM
SHE SAID NO, SHE SAID NO. I will be listening for the chants the rest of the season! Piece of crap!
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Yeah she said she wasn’t raped when the police interviewed her right after the allegation. I agree, she’s a piece of crap as is your post.
Damn DanRooney is good.

By: pageant-judge

pageant-judge — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 03:41:52 +0000

Well, I hope you are all doing well. Let me start out by saying I just read all 103 comments that were left on this board thus far, and many were quite negative and voiced a strong disbelief that Ben has changed.
I am not saying that I do or do not believe Ben and PLEASE don’t acuse me of being a Steelers Fan because I am not. I live in Birmingham, Alabama and there are no NFL Pro Football Teams here. It’s all about the University of Alabama or Auburn University in this state.
I know this is tough for you to do and I know it is because it’s a Very Tough thing for me to do. I have followed the GA and Lake Tahoe, Nevada cases both since March when the GA case just happened and I did not research the Lake Tahoe, Nevada case until then but regardless of what you think or say the only people that truly know what happen is God and Ben and the parties that were involved.
I’m not “Crying a River” for Ben but I wonder if one thing that has contributed to his past behavior was his parent’s divorce when he was 2 years old and then his mother’s shocking death from injuries she sustained in a car accident when Ben was standing out in the driveway of his father’s home waiting for his mother to come and pick him up while he’s outside playing when all of a sudden he finds out mother won’t be coming to pick him up due to her accident. I’m not trying to justify Ben’s behavior, I’m just saying there are things that should be considered here.
I had a pretty tough childhood myself and then as an adult I went through a Terrible Divorce 8 years ago and I have tried to move on the best I can, but in the process I was accused of some things that I was not guilty of. For people who did not know me, I could be easily mid-judged. Therefore, when it comes to people like Ben I try to give them the benefit of the doubt and I try to stay objective. I don’t deny he’s been a Jerk in the past and neither does he and at least he did apologize on TV and only he knows if he meant it or not. Time Will Definitely Tell!
I want everyone who is willing to, at least give Ben a little time and see if he changes his tune for the better. I’m not saying that he will and if he don’t, I’ll be the first person to say I was wrong for giving him the chance to try to change but I just think that Ben deserves that much.
You all here may not believe me but sometimes I have ESP on certain issues and the thought crossed my mind a couple of months ago that Ben might be thinking about giving up football and not come back just based on what I heard and read from people that knew him that posted on websites. I mean that. I think he really thought about giving up. Maybe I’m wrong?
I know this might sound cheesy but I have to say it anyway. I know we are not all Christians here and some of us even come from other faiths, but if you read Romans 3:23…For ALL have sinned and come short of the Glory of God. That is all of us and God really should be our only judge and if Ben has done wrong he will not get by with it and ultimately God will punish him. I know that!
You all will probably ask me next how I state these topics with so much confidence and I can tell you that my ex-husband who thought he would come out smelling like a rose after our divorce has had so much BAD LUCK for all of the demeaning things he has done to me.
Ultimately, we don’t get by with our sins, none of do in the end. This is just my opinion and I’m open to hear all of yours. May God Bless You!

By: edgy1957

edgy1957 — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 00:31:56 +0000

Deb says:
@edgy …
That’s the first thing approaching honesty you’ve posted in a long time. Not quite there, but at least approaching.
*********************
That is a load of horse shit and you know it. I posted the same damn thing SEVERAL TIMES to explain why I tried to show you how much of a HYPOCRITE that you ARE. At that time, you were shitting on her and you didn’t even have the DTF crap to shove in her face. Again, I said “I believe you and I’m NOT saying that you weren’t but you sure as hell want tea and sympathy from everyone and his mother but you can’t even muster up one ounce of sympathy for the girl, even before you knew any of the gory details.” When you start treating OTHER women like you want to be treated then maybe the rest of us won’t think of you as a hypocrite and the others might actually believe you (Or maybe they just get a kick out of saying that you’re craving to have a little bit of Ben Ben’s Little Ben).
BTW, while you won’t admit it, Big Ben GOT WAY with it. He did something and if there were cameras in the area that would have picked it up, I’ll guarantee you that he’d be someone’s bitch RIGHT NOW. He KNOWS that he dodged a bullet and you can write all your SCOTUS briefs but it still won’t make up for the fact that he got lucky THIS TIME. Before this incident, I was on his side (and still am on that incident) but this one, he just plain OJ’d his way into getting off.
As for your last paragraph – LIAR. YOU haven’t traded a civil word since then but I have and it was to DEFEND YOU, despite the fact that you were such a bitch to the girl. I’ve defended you several times and you’re either forgetful or down right lying to say that I haven’t. YOU are the one who continues to piss and moan about something where YOU didn’t realize that I was scolding you for your inability to treat a person with civility as you did with her. Whether she’s reading the blog or not is irrelevant and in fact, to even use that excuse is just plain disingenuous (Hell, that’s about as bad as “I apologize if I’ve offended anyone” or what is called the “non-apology” apology). Seriously, you do realize that being an ass about someone is the same, whether you’re talking about them behind their back or not, don’t you? As I said in a message that Florio chose not to push through, “If you’re expecting an apology, I wouldn’t hold my breath.”

By: Deb

Deb — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 23:08:26 +0000

@ppdoc13 …
I come from a small town, uber-conservative community. My politics skew left, but my church is very conservative. In college, I chose to hang out with women whose values reflected my own. As I said, I know many women like your daughter who conduct themselves with self-respect. When Oprah did the story on those HS cheerleaders, I don’t think she was trying to imply that was the majority. When the Today Show reported on the Duke woman, they weren’t saying that’s the majority. We’re all saying that’s out there and people should be aware of it, and I don’t think that’s wrong.
The victims I’ve dealt with have ranged in age from 5 to 80, and the rapist didn’t choose the five-year-old or the 80-year-old for what they were wearing. Real rape is about violence and control and trauma. If the evidence indicated that Roethlisberger were a predator instead of just a boorish boob, I’d be lobbying the Rooneys to release him. I’m not defending him because I think he’s a great guy; I’m defending him because the evidence says he didn’t do the crime.
As a semi-friend, I’ll be perfectly honest with you. I don’t mind being shredded for my principles. But you’ll never know how it feels for someone who’s been through what I have to be shredded on account of someone who went out wearing a “Down to F***” pin, deliberately drank herself into oblivion–and not for the first time–and according to many witnesses, did everything short of stripping in the middle of the room and screaming “Take me now.” Nothing in her behavior warranted that respect … and nothing in mine warranted the disrespect.

By: Blackn'Gold

Blackn'Gold — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:49:17 +0000

Deb, you have much more patience than I do. Clearly, the majority of people posting here did not see the interview. You must feel honored to be amongst such saintly and sanctimonious posters willing to give you insights on ethics and correct thinking since your sense of reality is at odds with the local mob.
The part of the interview printed above is of less importance than the part that Ben shared about his father’s tribulations while enduring this situation.
GO STEELERS!

By: ppdoc13

ppdoc13 — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:02:32 +0000

@Deb – if you were a man saying what you said, many would call you a misogynist. sorry my friend, but I think you went over the top.
i live in a very different community (religious) where premarital sex is very uncommon, but come from a college and medical school where it was as wild as possible. And while I am sure that there are a number of women who act as you say, the tenor of your argument it that it is a majority. I don’t believe that the majority of college women are sluts looking to carve notches in their bedpost.
as far as my daughter, she has been taught to respect herself as a person.
you are really hot on this one. take it from a semi-friend. ratchet back. i don’t think you will like what you wrote in a few days.