Comments on: Glen Coffee gets cuffed

By: Deb

Deb — Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:28:35 +0000

buzz, I recognized the handle … just decided to respond to your nasty snarkiness with humor rather than the bitterness you seem determined to spew.
Have a nice day.

By: buzzbissinger

buzzbissinger — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 23:50:16 +0000

@ Deb
Obviously sarcasm isn’t your strong suit. I’m not new around here. Yeah, what’s your twitter handle? I’ll make sure I sign up for that.

By: Deb

Deb — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:12:43 +0000

@buzzbissinger …
Trust me when I tell you that I have never thought of myself as an elder statesman of anything LOL Thanks for the laugh.
I have been known to make humorous comments and even to engage in black humor when the opportunity arises. You’ll just have to sign up for my PFT RSS feed so you don’t miss anything.
@Evo1 …
Thank you–that was a much clearer explanation of our laws regarding the use of deadly force than anything I heard at the time.
It’s also an interesting explanation about New York and California. I’ve been watching a new police drama set in New York and this came up in the last episode. An officer told a man if anyone else realized he had a weapon, he could get three years. The scene drew my attention because of the Burress case. Merely being in possession of a gun wouldn’t get you three years in most states.

By: Evo1

Evo1 — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:00:56 +0000

@Deb says:
Deb says:
“Heaven forgive me for asking … but are you caucasian? Sorry, but it makes a difference. You don’t have to register, but aren’t you required to have a permit? I knew our laws were lax, but not that lax. Of course, on his way out Jeb signed off that if someone looks at us cross-eyed, we can shoot them and just say we feared for our lives–woohoo, justifiable homicide.”
Actually, no, Florida does not require a permit to carry a gun in the center console in your car. And this is not unusual. This is true in many states. Florida is not particularly lax as far as its gun laws go. People have just gotten used to believing that much stricter gun laws are normal, because virtually all TV comes out of California and New York, where the gun laws are idiotically complicated and strict. Florida’s laws are far closer to the average for states in the US than either of those two. And Florida also has lower violent crime rates, lower numbers of attacks on police officers, lower gun crime rates, etc., etc., etc.
Also, your characterization of the Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws is completely wrong and irresponsible. The level of threat to your life necessary to justify the use of deadly force was not reduced at all by either of these laws, despite your implication that it was. You still have to be in REASONABLE fear of serious physical injury or death (which has always been the standard throughout the US and most other countries) before you can use lethal force. All these laws do is give you the benefit of the doubt if you are confronted by someone breaking into your home or carjacking you, and remove any doubt that you may choose self-defense over what may be an ill-advised attempt to flee if you are faced with such a threat.

By: Evo1

Evo1 — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:03:27 +0000

What I want to know is, why was he arrested? I read the police report. It says that the gun was in the center console. But carrying a loaded gun in the center console is legal in Florida, even if you don’t have a concealed weapons license, as long as the console is closed. It doesn’t even need to be locked. If it was “concealed”, that implies the console was closed, and that makes the gun legal. I think Mr. Coffee is going to have a false arrest case against this officer. It sucks that while citizens must know the law to avoid being prosecuted (“ignorance of the law is no excuse”), the police aren’t required to know the law in order to get paid for enforcing it.
And, like the vast majority of states, there is no requirement to register a gun in Florida. In fact, just as the federal government is, the Florida state government is legally prohibited from maintaing a gun registration database.

By: buzzbissinger

buzzbissinger — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 22:11:21 +0000

@ Deb;
I realize that you are the self-anointed elder statesmen of PFT, do me a favor, pick up a dictionary and look up “irony”. And lighten up a little, ok. This is just a website.

By: buzzbissinger

buzzbissinger — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 21:54:25 +0000

To quote Nelson Muntz, Haw-ha

By: Deb

Deb — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 16:00:31 +0000

@uboredletsride …
Thanks for the info. So many rules and they vary by state. “Securely encased” isn’t the same as “encased securely.” They do try to complicate things. Makes me feel even worse for Plaxico Burress.

By: uboredletsride

uboredletsride — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 04:01:02 +0000

My Marines license plate may have played a roll in me just getting a warning.
(Vehicle carry without a permit is allowed either in a snapped holster in plain view, or when the firearm is concealed if the firearm is “securely encased”. “Securely encased” means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access.[65] (Note: this legal condition is not the same as “encased securely.”) Vehicle carry without a permit is permitted when concealed even if it is not “securely encased” if the firearm is not “readily accessible”. Vehicle carry on one’s person inside a vehicle without a permit is not allowed.
Open carry when on foot in a public area is generally not permitted, but is allowed in certain circumstances, as defined in Florida statute 790.25(3).)

By: Brian Spears

Brian Spears — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 00:59:38 +0000

I hate these stupid gun laws. People get in trouble over nothing. The news make it out to be something so bad. A guy was transporting a gun in a car wow that is so terrible, give me break. This article picks on his Christianity, people make mistakes always have and always will that should not reflect back on Christ because he is perfect.

By: Deb

Deb — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 22:52:52 +0000

@uboredletsride …
Heaven forgive me for asking … but are you caucasian? Sorry, but it makes a difference. You don’t have to register, but aren’t you required to have a permit? I knew our laws were lax, but not that lax. Of course, on his way out Jeb signed off that if someone looks at us cross-eyed, we can shoot them and just say we feared for our lives–woohoo, justifiable homicide.

By: uboredletsride

uboredletsride — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 22:20:12 +0000

Florida gun laws do not require you to register weapons, and your car is considered your property too. I carry my firearm in my car and do not have a permit and have never had any issues. As long as the weapon is secured its legal to carry in your car. From the sounds of this he simply did not have it secured, it was loose in the center console.
When I was stopped by the police and my weapon was loose they just gave me a warning that it must be secure. There could be more to this story…

By: azwildcats96

azwildcats96 — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:14:02 +0000

SATAN – are you really that retarded? Do you know what “tongue-in-cheek” means? I’m pretty sure you know what “tongue-in-a$$” means. BTW I can walk down the street with a CONCEALED weapon LEGALLY. It’s a STATE law you moron.

By: Deb

Deb — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:59:12 +0000

@Scarlet&Gold …
My, that was a lovely bit of eloquence about professional sports. You might have wanted to spend a little time reading the Roethlisberger case files, though.
Yes, had he not been an NFL player, a Nevada hotel worker wouldn’t have taken their one-night stand and a year later turned it into a civil suit for $3 million. Too bad she didn’t realize her frenemies would hold onto the text messages she’d sent them the day after the alleged “rape” telling them how much she wanted to see him again. And if she had’t tried her bit of extortion, a sorority sister in Georgia wouldn’t have teased him about the case and gotten thrown out of a party, then persuaded her friend to fake a rape to get even. As the Georgia DA said, we have no victim. The medical exam showed there was no intercourse. No one was raped. Thus no charges were filed, no arrest was made.
So Roethlisberger doesn’t really belong on your list … especially since money and fame aren’t needed to support a life as a sexual predator. Nor would sexual predators be deterred by being preoccupied with the sport of football. It doesn’t work that way.
Nice theory though.

By: SATAN

SATAN — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:27:37 +0000

@azwildcats96
“Packin heat for self-defense is a fundamental right”
Uh no wrong. The recent supreme court decisions give you the right to have a gun IN YOUR HOME provided your not a prohibited possesor (ie proven you don’t deserve the right, (felon etc, etc). You don’t have the right to posess one in your car although each state can allow you to. And yes if GC was in here in Arizona he wouldn’t have a problem.

By: Deb

Deb — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:54:41 +0000

@Scarlet&Gold …
I didn’t say anything about a higher calling–said he didn’t have the heart for football so it’s better that he left. How does it benefit the 49ers to have a guy on the team who doesn’t want to be there? And seriously–please explain to me how he screwed you over? He returned the money. When he left, that opened a roster spot for you to bring in a talented player who has the commitment to be part of your team.
If he’d faked an injury to get out of playing in a tough championship game where his performance could have made the difference between winning and losing, I’d agree with you. But he just quit a job. We all have the right to change jobs. The NFL isn’t military service.

By: Deb

Deb — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:46:42 +0000

@CanesRuntheNFL …
Little boy, just as many people asked for my opinions as yours. You want to dish it out at Coffee but can’t take having something come flying back? Well, that’s just too bad. You’d probably better stay off the big kids’ boards. Miami may have cleaned up its act a bit, but I suspect you still have an occasional arrest. No school is perfect.

By: Scarlet&Gold

Scarlet&Gold — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:46:05 +0000

Professional Sports’ effect on society is somewhat of a paradox. While they do a public service by keeping a lot of a-holes busy and off the streets, they also empower a lot of a-holes with money and fame to take their negative behavior to new levels (e.g., Vick, Rothlisberger).

By: pkrlvr

pkrlvr — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:20:11 +0000

It just strengthens my belief that most people use religion to cover for character flaws.

By: BuckyBadger

BuckyBadger — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:30:30 +0000

@albaNY Hawker, this is a totally different situation that you should be able to see. If not you need a little help. Far as I know this wasn’t the case. All I said lets get all the facts before we crucify the guy. He made a mistake but so have all of us.

By: MakingitRain

MakingitRain — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:49:06 +0000

Having a gun doesn’t make you a thug. My mother in Law was charged with the same thing after she forgot to take her gun out of the glove box. We all have the right to carry a gun. I never leave hoome without it.

By: azwildcats96

azwildcats96 — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:37:09 +0000

All you gun-hating hippie wussies stfu. Packin heat for self-defense is a fundamental right. I live in Arizona. We don’t need permits to conceal a weapon and we shoot people as they cross the border dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God Bless the U.S.A. FREE GLEN COFFEE!!!!!!

By: waterboy

waterboy — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:31:33 +0000

I guess he just wanted some backup in case “Christ” didn’t answer when he needed him.

By: clintcooper

clintcooper — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:27:33 +0000

He’s just being a crusader for Christ lol.

By: OLDCRACKER

OLDCRACKER — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:09:39 +0000

At least he wasn’t at the airport.
Doesn’t this arrest actually qualify him for acceptance into the National Felons’ League?
He needs to go to the AFC-North. He’d qualify for any team there.

By: cleanface

cleanface — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 13:52:29 +0000

His new career is riding dirty?

By: Charlie F.

Charlie F. — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 13:52:02 +0000

Interesting career path? Here’s a guy that hardly played and was getting paid quite well then decides to up and quit. To do what? Shocking another pro or ex-pro doing something stupid. Categorize under “Have Gun Will Travel”

By: Jack Burton

Jack Burton — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 13:48:38 +0000

He heard Mike Singletary was in the area.

By: CanesRuntheNFL

CanesRuntheNFL — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 13:40:23 +0000

@ Deb
Nobody asked for your opinion on this issue. And FYI Miami doesn’t have quitters nor players that are arrested anymore. Hypocrite!!

By: OJPimpson

OJPimpson — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 13:33:19 +0000

Can’t we just resume the coffee jokes ?? Coffee must have been on his grind at the time of the incident