Comments on: Owens, Irvin wonder why Brady didn't speak up for Moss

By: surfsjw3

surfsjw3 — Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:53:47 +0000

How do guys that make millions of dollars playing a game feel like they are the “victims?” I know they say its a business, but not to us, the fans (T.O. and Ochocinco’s consumers). Let us enjoy the game, I could care less how much you make. I’ve got no respect for anyone that is driven by the fact that he has always been a victim and won’t persevere. He has a unique talent and has been given the opportunity to captilalize, yet to T.O., his entire career has been about “him being persecuted.” What the heck is that? Yea you gotta work hard, risk injury, ups and downs, whatever, but such is life man. T.O. lacks all the intangibles that are possessed by great players (leadership, intelligence, etc.) and should never going to get the confidence bestowed upon him in the form of a “good K” (like the greats he wants to compare himself to). We let these guys have the platform to speak out their ignorance, but it just bolsters our true heroes of the game. T.O., as your so-called consumer to the product your trying to sell, know your role.

By: Shadenfreuder

Shadenfreuder — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:25:24 +0000

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/nfl/terrell-owens-net-worth/
T.O.’s net worth is $35 million according to the above site. He’ll have made at least $8.5 million for the past two seasons. That’s hardly what I would call working for free.
I’m a well-paid air traffic controller. I’ll probably make just about $2.5 million over my 30 year career when I’m forced to retire. I’m not complaining at all about averaging just under 100K per year to do a job that many might consider slightly more important than catching half the passes thrown my way in any given year.
T.O. will most likely make more in this one year than I will have made in my entire career. Between 10 and 20 percent of the people in this country that want to work cannot find a job. And he feels like he’s playing for free. I hope he blows his ACL. Ungrateful jerk.

By: edgy1957

edgy1957 — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:16:31 +0000

Hail2ThaRedskins says:
And Owens absolutely is to blame for the fact that he hasn’t been able to get a larger contract. His antics in SF led to a sub-par deal in PHI, then his antics in PHI led to him getting a sub-par deal in DAL (which was actually quite generous considering no one else was offering), then his antics in DAL left his only option being a sub-par deal in BUF,
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If ignorance is bliss then you must be in heaven. NOTHING he did in SF had anything to do with his deal with Philly. His agent screwed up and TO missed out on free agency because of that and then the 49ers decided to cut ties and send him to Baltimore but he and his NEW agent were able to get him out of that and he signed a fairly good deal with Philly. With his base salary and signing bonus, he was — wait for it — SECOND in the league to Marvin Harrison in WR pay, who made $10.5 mil to his $9.1 mil in 2004 , a VAST improvement over the year before when he was 13th. His salary was mostly base in 2005 and while he made $2.7 mil, it was 32nd in the league but that’s because he was suspended and lost out on a lot of money. Does that sound like a sub-par deal?
The deal that he signed with the Cowboys paid him $10.1 mil in 2006, good for 4th in the league and he was 6th in the league in 2007 and 3rd in the league in 2008 and then the Cowboys released him. . Does that sound like a sub-par deal?
His deal in 2009 wasn’t great but all you experts said that NO ONE would sign him and — gasp — you were wrong. Oh, BTW, he was 12th in the league last year. Does that sound like a sub-par deal?
The contract that Owens signed with Philly was 7 years for $49 mil. 3 contract he signed with Dallas was 3 years for $25 mil. The contract he signed with Buffalo was 1 year for $6.5 mil. This year’s contract is 1 year for $2 mil and incentives for $2 mil that he may not get. Frankly, this year is the worst deal that he’s had since 2003, when he was with the 49ers and for a guy his age, it’s NOT that bad.

By: Phenom

Phenom — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:58:19 +0000

That (“basically working for free” on 2 million a year) is probably the dumbest thing that I have seen (or heard) TO say. Right on par with Sprewell saying something like “I need to feed my family” when he was already making millions. Brady would NEVER say anything that ignorant.

By: dennis112484

dennis112484 — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:54:57 +0000

michael irvin and deion sanders are so stupid. how do those guys have jobs?

By: steeelfann

steeelfann — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:49:28 +0000

A few points:
Terrell, I am sure there are many who wish it really did baffle you to death.
Nobody cares how you feel about being underpaid. Many people just want enough to put clothes on their kids, pay the rent. Just go away.
How do networks continue to listen to jackasses like Mike Irvin, Deion, Terrell Owens, but they blackball Reggie White, who was more of a man than all 3 of those maroons put together.
Poor me, I, I, I, poor me, people keeping me down. You can’t bench Vince Young, you can’t not pay me $20MM, blah, blah, blah. Maybe if Moss and Owens and others understood there is no “I” in team, they might have that contract. Any time Terrell Owens wants to step behind the center and take New England down the field, please call me so that I can watch. And laugh. Great year as T.O. will be gone after 12 more games and can stare in the mirror full time away from us.

By: REGGIE BUSH

REGGIE BUSH — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:47:27 +0000

you reap what you sow…sound familiar

By: FDupTruth

FDupTruth — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:40:19 +0000

I didn’t hear no bell. says: October 10, 2010 11:35 AM
See Brady and Brees. They put up the stat that matters most with receivers no one outside their fan base really knows: Wins.
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Well put. Welker was unwanted before NE, Troy Brown has been a nobody since, and Brees spreads it around so much it almost doesn’t matter who he throws to. Owens is just pissed b/c NE didn’t pick him up this offseason…when he said he would play for basically nothing. Although T.O. was great and is still a good receiver, his antics/comments will always detract from his legacy, unfortunately.

By: CKL

CKL — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:36:18 +0000

I think you might finally see Belichick crack a smile then outright laugh if you suggested that Moss get paid instead of Brady or because Brady did. I know I as a Pats fan think it’s one of the funniest things ever. Hey TO, your little butthurt self would be going off on another player if they talked about YOUR money in the press. But since you are an egomaniacal hypocrite you see absolutely nothing wrong with what you said. As for Irvin, since when did a guy who stabs his own teammates with scissors get to be the one who talks about what a great teammate he has been? Talk about the unintentional comedy factor….it permeates this entire interview. Then Irvin wants Brady to whine to the press?? The guy who says what a good TEAMMATE he, Irvin, is? BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
No, fools, Brady IS a good team player …that’s exactly WHY he never whines about anything to the press. TB has his faults and I am fully capable of being critical of him, but TB’s status as a TEAM PLAYER is rock solid and iron clad.
One of TB’s faults is that he tired too hard to make Moss happy and always had to buttkiss him in the media as did Belichick. You watch…now that Moss is gone Brady will be the QB we are all used to seeing again. I for one look forward to the QB of the team I root for not having to worry about assuaging the ego of another player at the expense of making wise decisions on the field.

By: MUSTANGMIKE

MUSTANGMIKE — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:33:40 +0000

“That baffles me to deAth” – T.O.
Please die.

By: SSSJKING

SSSJKING — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:33:12 +0000

I really don’t have the hate everyone else does for T.O…what he says is true in it’s core. Wide receivers are seen as one of the most expendable positions in the NFL. Terrell Owens is obviously bitter over never getting that elite wideout contract of over 10 million in his career so he is most likely disheartened that Randy Moss didn’t get a fat contract when he is most likely looking for one after this season.
T.O seems to always bite his tongue though. How is 2 million basically nothing? I don’t mind him saying that he was getting overworked since these players are basically giving up their bodies for our entertainment and many players who weren’t doing what he was were getting paid more. I honestly think T.O thinks like 95% of other players at his position, but at some point it is clear that he never learned how other people interpret things and how about every interview he does makes people repulsed by him more even if he does want the best.

By: patriotsfan

patriotsfan — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:29:35 +0000

wow this makes me even think less of T.O haha randy moss did not make tom brady! How meny superbowls did TFB win without moss? and then again how meny did he win with randy?? wow this guys an idiot

By: BDiddy

BDiddy — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:26:36 +0000

For all the times TO has cried about his QB not getting him the ball, you would think he might recognize the importance of that position. Tom Brady won three Super Bowls without a single star receiver. Between them, Moss and Owens have played with at least 6 Pro Bowl quarterbacks and have not a single championship to show for it. Does that tell you anything, divas?

By: nps6724

nps6724 — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:26:13 +0000

Tom Brady won 3 Super Bowl rings without Randy Moss. Tom Brady lost the Super Bowl with Randy Moss. Randy Moss never even reached a Super Bowl without Tom Brady.

By: edgy1957

edgy1957 — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:23:05 +0000

I can’t help but laugh at some of you guys. Really, you think he’s arrogant because he complains about his pay? I bet that some Mexican making less than 1/3 of what YOU are making think that you’re arrogant for complaining about how little you make. It’s all relative and it’s all JEALOUSY.
It’s also funny how some of you will scream about how it’s UNAMERICAN for the government to tax the rich because they’re the American Dream and it’s all that we should strive for and YET, that dream apparently doesn’t apply to professional sports.
Like it or not, a great WR will make a big difference. You can talk all you want about how Tom Brady did before Moss but you’d have to be a complete MORON to even believe that he EVER had a season like he did before Moss came on board. If the team had to rely on their offense, they would have never won a Super Bowl because while Brady didn’t lose games, the offense wasn’t going to win any if it came to a shootout. Their defense was more important to their success and with the exception of one year, it hasn’t been up to par since 2004 while their offense has been one of the best, even without Brady . Brady will never have a season like he did in 2007 while Moss had AT LEAST 3 others that were as good as what he had in 2007.

By: Freaky Fred

Freaky Fred — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:20:11 +0000

I saw TO drop 3 TD passes in the same game for the 49ers- two on the same drive. Plus, he’s a whiner.

By: darkchild

darkchild — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:19:49 +0000

I’d love to make 2 million this year. I’d be the happiest person in the world. There are people out there losing their homes to foreclosure and others making minimun wage, and he’s playing for “nothing” because he’s getting a measly 2 mill this year. I’d love to be in his shoes.
T.O. is and always has been a douche

By: Reggie'sBush

Reggie'sBush — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:17:06 +0000

These 2 are dumb as rocks.
Let’s try simple math…
There are approximately 64 starting Wide Receivers in the NFL today. (since most teams play in 3 receiver sets lets make that 96)
There are 32 starting Quarterbacks, less than half are legitimate starting QBs.
Unproven WRs come out in the draft EVERY YEAR, meanwhile bust QBs come out in the draft EVERY YEAR.

By: DirtDawg55

DirtDawg55 — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:11:35 +0000

And how many Super Bowls do TO, Moss and Ochostinko, the three loudest WRs in the league have? Oh yeah, none.
Wah, wah, wha. Cry me a river.

By: woodsidegil

woodsidegil — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:09:09 +0000

Surprising that Owens didn’t play the race card again….wait, can’t do that because of McNabb.

By: FireJerryJones

FireJerryJones — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:01:57 +0000

WR Divas.
Don’t hear Moss complaining.

By: -Slap-

-Slap- — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:00:44 +0000

Clowns like Owens and Irvin – and the NFL’s conscious decision to enable their idiocy – is the main reason I care less about the League with every passing season.

By: BigBear123

BigBear123 — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:00:04 +0000

Game 1:
Brady 258 yds passing.
Leading receiver: Welker-8/64
Moss-5/59
Game 2:
Brady 248 yds passing
Leading receiver: Hernandez-6/101
Moss did have the nice 1 hand TD catch.
Game 3:
Brady 252 yds passing
Leading receiver: Hernandez-6/65
Moss-2/42 yds
Game 4:
Brady 153 yds passing
Welker 8/70
Moss 0/0
Moss shows up when he wants to and it shows. Brady is tired of him just like everyone else.

By: Cdiggy

Cdiggy — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:00:02 +0000

“The contract I have right now, it’s basically like I’m playing for free,”-
Are you kidding me?? TO can suck the snotty end of my F*ckstick

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:59:58 +0000

Just a thought…how many STARTING QBs have ever been considered a “cancer” in the locker room? How many starting wide receivers have been considered a “cancer”?

By: Steveyb14

Steveyb14 — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:58:12 +0000

I find it SHOCKING that both Irvin and Owens agree that WRs are unappreciated. I also find it ironic that two "me-first" players who have had their fair share of on and off-the-field issues would be so critical of Brady's judgment. Randy Moss made nearly $30 million dollars over the last three years. More than Brady made during the same span. TO isn't playing for free. TO is playing for $2 million this year and has made tens of millions of dollars over his career. And here's a link to a press release when Irvin signed his deal with the Cowboys in 1995: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n17_v87/ai_16682677/ These guys are literally living in bizarro world. Next time TO, Irvin or Moss check their bank account statements, maybe they should consider themselves appropriately appreciated. The average American would love to be "under appreciated" like these guys have been. Give me a break!!!

By: jolink65

jolink65 — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:56:32 +0000

maybe owens should look at why noone wants to sign him rather than complain about the only contract he could get…without a good qb the team doesn’t work while a great qb can take a bunch of no name receivers like tom brady did n win super bowls…brady had the patriots 30 minutes from another super bowl appearance with reche caldwell as his #1 receiver RECHE CALDWELL who couldn’t catch a pass to save his life

By: Lance

Lance — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:55:49 +0000

No matter the profession ‘me first’ people do not get appreciated. It is the folks that go to work everyday, outperform and carry themselves professionally that get paid and respected.
I think Owens is one of the most gifted athletes of our time and certainly so was Michael Irvin. But this proves they really just don’t get ‘it.’

By: Hail2ThaRedskins

Hail2ThaRedskins — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:54:56 +0000

I can explain to them why receivers are undervalued…
The Patriots have another receiver, Wes Welker, they don’t have another quarterback. In short, good receivers are way more plentiful than good quarterbacks. If Owens and Irvin had paid attention in there econ101 class in college they would know its simple simple and demand economics at work.
However, I do agree that quarterbacks should stick up for their receivers that help make them great.
And Owens absolutely is to blame for the fact that he hasn’t been able to get a larger contract. His antics in SF led to a sub-par deal in PHI, then his antics in PHI led to him getting a sub-par deal in DAL (which was actually quite generous considering no one else was offering), then his antics in DAL left his only option being a sub-par deal in BUF, while he was a good citizen in BUF he previous actions led to almost no interest this off-season and thus he signs another sub-par deal with CIN. He has no one to blame but himself, and maybe his agent for not explaining to him better how his actions would affect his value not only on current but future contracts. The flip side of that is his actions while hurting his football value have increased his value as an entertainer.

By: smashmouthd

smashmouthd — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:53:39 +0000

Brady spoke up for Branch… for all the good that did.
Brady got a big fat contract… part of being paid well is knowing to tow the company line.
Guys like TO… and to a lesser degree Moss… just don’t get that, and that’s why despite all their talent, they are vagabonds in the NFL.