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League emphasizes that Favre investigation is about sexual harassment

From the moment the league announced that it was investigating the allegation that former Jets (now Vikings) quarterback Brett Favre sent voice messages and photos to a former Jets in-house sideline reporter, the reason for the league’s zeal was obvious.

An excellent summary of the status of the situation in Tuesday’s
SportsBusiness Daily includes the key quote from NFL spokesman Greg Aiello:  “It’s a totally different world with the Internet.  Information and
videos that never once existed are the new reality and the new news.  But
our issue here is the conduct of our employees and the question of
whether this is a case of sexual harassment.” 

The fact that Favre first became exposed (sometimes the double entendres are impossible to avoid) to Jenn Sterger in the workplace compels the league to investigate whether Favre’s conduct may have risen to the level of sexual harassment.  As we explained in this week’s Monday 10-pack, “sexual harassment” means much more than a boss harassing his secretary for sex.  The “hostile work environment’ form of sexual harassment requires careful consideration of a stew of often disputed facts, viewed both from the perspective of the objective interpretation of the words and deeds and the subjective reaction by the target of them.

Part of the problem, as mentioned in the 10-pack (did we mention the 10-pack?), is the surprising reality that neither the league nor the Jets have provided to Jets players specific guidance on what sexual harassment is, the conduct that may give rise to it, and the potential consequences for engaging in it. 

Moving forward generally, count on that changing.

Moving forward specifically, the question of whether Sterger cooperates continues to be critical to the outcome.  Without her input, the league has no context within which to assess whether Favre’s conduct was unwelcome.  Without her version of the events, Favre could go behind closed doors with NFL Security and say something like, “You should see the pictures she sent to me.”

If the league concludes sexual harassment occurred, the Personal Conduct Policy becomes the vehicle for disciplining him.  Even without a finding of sexual harassment, the Personal Conduct Policy contains sufficient “do what we want to do when and how we want to do it” looseness in the joints to allow the league to do whatever it wants with Favre.  Whenever the league wants to do it.  However the league wants to do it.

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  1. Wonka 2 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:21 PM

    He was accused so he should be suspended. Accusations are much worse than convictions in America today…

  2. DonTerrelli says: Oct 12, 2010 1:25 PM

    Shoot, there’s more evidence here than there was against Ben Roethlisberger.

  3. Fantasia says: Oct 12, 2010 1:27 PM

    Gotta be suspended.
    A forty something year old grandfather/football star sending pictures of his crank to a young lady.
    That is just creepy in itself.

  4. unruhly27 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:27 PM

    doesn’t someone have to complain for it to be sexual harassment? has she complained? i don’t think so. the only case they have is one of a self loveing jock and all of us self loving jocks hit on women. just happens he is married. and sounds like he isn’t very good with the ladies if they are all turning him down. haha

  5. jcjets says: Oct 12, 2010 1:29 PM

    To me, its not harrasement because Sterger told the deadspin guy she kept the photos and voicemails because she thought they were funny and to show to friends as a goof. Obviously she wasn’t harrased.
    It was definitely inappropriate behavior, but you can’t change your mind about how you feel about it 3 years later just to capitalize.

  6. js136202 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:34 PM

    Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon… you know, cause I’ve worked in a lot of offices, and I tell you, people do that all the time.

  7. BByrnes says: Oct 12, 2010 1:35 PM

    I have a feeling the NFL is desperate to keep Favre’s image as their poster boy nice guy…the husbo and I were pretty surprised at the LACK of discussion from the announcers last night regarding the creepy croc pics…I have to believe that if T.O. or Burress had pulled this trick, they’d be discussing it till the cows came home.

  8. PirateFreedom says: Oct 12, 2010 1:35 PM

    If it is about sexual harassment rather than internet photos then Jenn Sterger is not the only potential complainant

  9. Thor says: Oct 12, 2010 1:36 PM

    I believe for harassment to occur that the employee must contact her employer (the Jets) with a problem and then for the Jets to be liable, they have to do nothing about it. So, did the lady in question complain to the Jets? Obviously Favre doesn’t work there any more. Plus, when he did “work” there, he was an independent contractor (which carries with it a whole sort of issues).
    Not saying what he may have done was right, but it’s also not your run of the mill case.

  10. muchmaligned says: Oct 12, 2010 1:38 PM

    You have not studied workplace sexual harassment policy or law very thoroughly. If this amounts to a “tit-for-tat” exchange of messages, pictures or face-to-face flirtations, there is no sexual harassment. None. If this is found to be the case and the NFL still decides to take action against their employee, Favre should sue their asses until the “F” falls off the logo… or take such action as dictated by the CBA.
    It is clear that you media sycophants want to destroy what you’ve created (Favre et al), but this is going to do it.
    The objective media is dead.

  11. Pinhead Greeny says: Oct 12, 2010 1:39 PM

    Turn in your man card immediately Goodell…Just jump in a vat of pink paint and go eat some yogurt..

  12. Phil Wright says: Oct 12, 2010 1:40 PM

    Once Grandpa’s check clears, Sterger will announce that she has chosen not to cooperate because of “personal considerations.” End of story.

  13. PFTiswhatitis says: Oct 12, 2010 1:43 PM

    Never gonna happen. Favre will retire before the league can make anything of this and the league will be reluctant to do anything about it in the first place. Over. Done.

  14. Deb says: Oct 12, 2010 1:45 PM

    But, Mike, as a former employment attorney, you know creating a hostile work environment involves much more than a one-time incident. The definition of harassment implies ongoing torment. It involves fear, threat, intimidation. This woman apparently was so amused by the photos that she kept them more than two yeas “for laughs” and shared them with friends. It hardly sounds as though she was traumatized.
    Sexual harassment means making a woman so uncomfortable she can’t do her job. I still don’t know what Jenn Sterger’s job was. Sideline reporter for the Jets? Last night ESPN kept referring to her as a “hostess” or something like that. Was she a reporter or a cocktail waitress?
    Landmark sexual harassment cases have involved everything from painting “c***” on the breakroom walls to rape. Women have been denied equal opportunity for advancement, equal pay for equal work, have been subjected to a barage of pornography during staff meetings, have been fondled and groped in the hallways. If this woman had no interest in Favre, why did she give him her private phone number. And why save his voice mails for two years unless she saw something in it for her?
    The guy may be a dog, but that’s between him and his wife. What about this story screams harassment to you?????

  15. it's all bs says: Oct 12, 2010 1:46 PM

    I think this might open a can of worms….if true I wonder how many other players sent “things” to this chick….if there are others then I highly doubt Brett will be the only one to be found guilty of the NFL’s personal conduct policy…this whole debacle could backfire big time on the JETS!

  16. Wonka 2 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:46 PM

    I wonder if Favre will claim “shrinkage” from playing all those years in Green Bay? Did he expect to wow this chick with pictures of his 4″ dong?

  17. PackerFanTrappedinMN says: Oct 12, 2010 1:48 PM

    Sterger cooperating is not critical to the investigation. Two other employees/contractors have come forward with allegations. If any one of those prove to be valid, the NFL has evidence to proceed.

  18. geaux says: Oct 12, 2010 1:50 PM

    Doesn’t change the fact that Favre (allegedly) did this while married to his breast cancer-stricken wife. What a scumbag phony POS.
    Oh, and the irony that this comes out while the NFL is wearing the pink everything doesn’t help.

  19. 1nationraidernation says: Oct 12, 2010 1:50 PM

    anybody whop saved e-mails, pictures, text, etc….just was looking to get paid all along….I wonder if Farve saved the pictures of her toosh…probably not.
    reminds of of tyson , when the woman shows up at his hotel room at 3am in the morning wearing nothing but lingerie, and then claims she was raped.

  20. KnuckleBucket says: Oct 12, 2010 1:52 PM

    Well then this could be a loophole referring back to a previous post when it was suggested that Favre be benched. It’s a lot easier to bench a player when he’s suspended…

  21. Richm2257 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:54 PM

    Here’s where this gets “messed up”…… the photos, text messages, and voice messages have all been made public. Whether Jenn Stenger cooperates, or whether Favre does a “Roethlisberger” and writes a big enough check, the evidence is there for all the world to see.
    It shouldn’t matter whether the “victim” is offended or not. He did what he did, or he didn’t, and if he did, he should have to pay the price.
    Bad enough the NFL has a 28 year old 2-time SB winning moron plying underage coeds with alcohol and claiming “hey, she wanted to blow me in a bathroom” as a defense ….. now they’ve got a 40 year old married superstar QB sending photo’s of his pecker.
    Is THIS the image the NFL wants of its stars????
    And if Favre claims “you should see the pics SHE sent to ME!” as a defense, it shouldn’t matter; he’s the NFL superstar, she’s not; he should have known better, even if she didn’t. And he also should have to produce those photo’s of her, or shut up.
    He’s a dirty old perv, besides being a has-been.

  22. JimmySmith says: Oct 12, 2010 1:55 PM

    This has been my main point all along. If Favre sexting pix of Little Lorenzo to the local cocktail waitress, the NFL can afford to look the other way. It is the unavoidable fact that these were either Jet employees or contract workers to the NY Jets (the law does not care one way or the other, its the same thing from a legal point of view) that is pushing NFL into this.
    As for BrINT’s golden boy status, the NFL looked the other way 2 years ago on tampering charges just to help BrINT resolve the impasse with the Packers at the time but this is the one time that the NFL can’t afford to whitewash this sort of behavior. They came down hard on Ben Rapesagirl, they can hardly afford to create a double standard just because the guy has NFL records (in fumbles and INT’s).
    Little Lorenzo will make him famous and he could sell his crocs on E-bay to the adorning Viking fans but Justice will not be denied.

  23. LuvThatDirtyWatah says: Oct 12, 2010 1:56 PM

    He should be absolved due to the lack of evidence.
    sorry, couldnt resist.

  24. steamrod says: Oct 12, 2010 1:57 PM

    Thor says: October 12, 2010 1:36 PM
    I believe for harassment to occur that the employee must contact her employer
    muchmaligned says: October 12, 2010 1:38 PM
    You have not studied workplace sexual harassment policy or law very thoroughly. If this amounts to a “tit-for-tat” exchange of messages, pictures or face-to-face flirtations, there is no sexual harassment.
    ————————————————-
    Neither of these statements is true, factually.

  25. Tjackfan says: Oct 12, 2010 2:00 PM

    This just sums up how the old man’s season has been going.

  26. PackFaninPackLand says: Oct 12, 2010 2:07 PM

    Re: BByrnes at 1:35 PM
    “I have a feeling the NFL is desperate to keep Favre’s image as their poster boy nice guy…the husbo and I were pretty surprised at the LACK of discussion from the announcers last night”
    ——————–
    LACK of discussion ??? What game were you watching ??? Tirico and the boys mentioned AT LEAST 4 times during the broadcast. Good lord. Should they have mentioned it every play ???
    You and the “husbo” are insane.

  27. funi says: Oct 12, 2010 2:07 PM

    8 game suspension for sexual harrassment! If Jenn Sterger does not cooperate, I hope she gets fired from Versus! DTF name was never came up, no evidence and Ben gets 4 games??

  28. FireFlorio says: Oct 12, 2010 2:17 PM

    re: DonTerrelli says:
    October 12, 2010 1:25 PM
    Shoot, there’s more evidence here than there was against Ben Roethlisberger.
    ————————————————
    Definately wins the award for most ignorant statement of the day.
    There is evidence in my kitchen sink that I ate my breakfast this morning – It doesn’t make it a crime. What Favre is accused of is bad judgement at best. Police were never involved and the ‘alledged victim’ never even complained about it. This story is completely being fueled by Deadspin for their financial benefit and morons like Florio who think drama is more important than football news.
    Please don’t think, regardless of how big a deal idiots like Florio try to make of this, that this is a crime.

  29. whitecheddar33 says: Oct 12, 2010 2:20 PM

    So the NFL follows up this story by announcing that Marissa Miller is their new spokesperson beginning next year … LMAO! Nah – she won’t hear any comments from the players or male fans! How damn ridiculous … look in the mirror NFL – look in the mirror! You get what you’re asking for …

  30. Infidel says: Oct 12, 2010 2:21 PM

    Ed Zachary.
    Goodell knows TV drives his brand. And TV execs want Favre for ratings.
    He gets a fine. Period.
    And the NFL joins ESPN, Peter King, Zyfi Wilf and Deanna Favre as another “Favre Enabler.”

  31. Chuck Jones says: Oct 12, 2010 2:22 PM

    If TO, Randy Moss, or Ochocinco skipped training camp, wasn’t in game shape and caused his team to go 1-3, and then had a sexual harassment scandal opened up against them it would be career over.
    Big Ben was punished over the accusations. There was no evidence of rape.
    Favre was dirty in his dealings with Green Bay after his last season there, dishonest when he denied wanting to get out of his contract with them to go to Minnesota, and once again dishonest with the Jets about his intentions to get out of that contract as well.
    He’s a thug and a rule breaker.
    His starting streak needs an asterisk because of the games he only played one snap because of the thumb injury. And, because during the years at Green Bay 4 of his games each year were against Detroit and Chicago teams that were the equivalent of last place 3A high school teams.
    If the league is worried about their image they need to punish this flim-flam artist to the fullest!

  32. Krashie21 says: Oct 12, 2010 2:29 PM

    Phil Wright says:
    October 12, 2010 1:40 PM
    Once Grandpa’s check clears, Sterger will announce that she has chosen not to cooperate because of “personal considerations.” End of story.
    __________________________________
    This is EXACTLY what will happen.

  33. R8R_BOB says: Oct 12, 2010 2:31 PM

    If Rachel Uchitel can get paid why can’t Jenn Sterger? I hope “FOF” (friends of Favre) leave her an briefcase under her doorstop to throw mud on this investigation. Some people like myself would welcome this if and only if Sterger was the one who set the wheels in motion. To investigate based on stories from a website is jumping the gun. Unless you have Sterger in your back pocket to verify that yes it is Brett Favre’s voice, yes that is his junk(which she can verify unless she and he did the deed) then you have nothing but hearsay. (for the record, I believe Favre did this but I’m just a fan. I cannot enact punishment on Lord Favre)

  34. jdmcmil says: Oct 12, 2010 2:36 PM

    If you people can not see this was hyped up by the Jets to cause a distraction to the Vikings beofre the game you are idiots. Does everyone forget this breifly came out before he unretired again? And went away because it was a non-story? It is amazing how people are comparing this to Ben Roth.
    How the NFL suspend the real idiots, like players drinking and driving with teamates in the car? O wait, apparently that only gets you sat down for a quarter.

  35. themagoo says: Oct 12, 2010 2:37 PM

    Jenn Sterger is an attention who**. No offense Brett, but he isn’t good enough to get that number on his own, and I am sure she voluntarily gave it to him. I am quite sure he sent the pics, but she started this whole mess for people to pay more attention to her. She got into Maxim and Playboy by showing up to USF and FSU games in a low cut top and daisy dukes, (not that i’m complaining), and she is probably hoping to get somewhere else with this exposure. My wife grew up with this chick and knew her all the way through high school, and as far as anything anyone knows about her, this is typical Jenn.
    The league shouldn’t waste their time. I want them to be spending their resources getting a new CBA done, and not wasting money trying to go after a guy that will probably retire at the end of the year. Then again, maybe he wont retire and end up with another team.

  36. jwflez says: Oct 12, 2010 2:38 PM

    # Wonka 2 says: October 12, 2010 1:21 PM
    He was accused so he should be suspended. Accusations are much worse than convictions in America today…
    He WAS NOT accused yet!!!!!!! (there is nothing wrong in itself with sending nude pics) How do we know she didn’t ask for them or send him some dirty pics??? harassment is only if it is unwanted. She hasn’t said yet that it was unwanted. If the pics are actually his, the nfl should not punish him for being unfaithful, unless sterger says the pics were unwanted

  37. Dapollock says: Oct 12, 2010 2:38 PM

    I felt violated when I saw Shanicoe step out of ths shower on live tv last year. Do I have a case for harassment? That hosebeast what definitely “ongoing” enough to scare me.

  38. Deb says: Oct 12, 2010 2:38 PM

    @Richm2257 …
    As you well know, Roethlisberger did not write a check. The Georgia woman’s medical exam showed she didn’t have intercourse and that her story was fabricated.
    I wish you could write a check and buy a brain and a conscience. Being a gratuitous liar who abuses women over football loyalties hardly makes you the morality police.

  39. thehatefulnerd says: Oct 12, 2010 2:39 PM

    Favre will write a big enough check. Not only to her, but to the masseusses. And probably a few others. Including Deanna.

  40. Green n' Gold says: Oct 12, 2010 2:39 PM

    Way to go out on top Brett, talk about effing up your legacy. You get everything thats about to come your way you selfish POS!!!

  41. Deb says: Oct 12, 2010 2:44 PM

    And Rich …
    He didn’t ply her with alcohol … she was running from club to club all evening buying her own according to multiple witnesses. The waitress at Cap City said he bought for the room and she helped herself. Nor did either Ben or the accuser say anything about blow jobs in the bathroom. That’s just something the boys of PFT came up with. She never alleged anything like that. You know all of this. You just choose to keep inventing stories because of your Lombardi envy.
    Someone should have washed your mouth out as a kid. Don’t know if that would have cured pathological lying. Psychiatric help is probably needed.

  42. MEDTXPACK says: Oct 12, 2010 2:46 PM

    when lawyers blog on here they lose creditbility. back to traffic court! leave the comments to usual redneck/blue collar/tradesman crowd that we are!

  43. SDW2001 says: Oct 12, 2010 2:46 PM

    js136202 says:
    October 12, 2010 1:34 PM
    Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon… you know, cause I’ve worked in a lot of offices, and I tell you, people do that all the time.
    —LOL. Love it.
    As for me, I am getting so sick of the NFL and its sanctimonious garbage. I understand the need to protect the brand, but really…players making cat calls at a provocatively dressed woman in the locker room? The shock! The horror! A player leaving voicemails for an attractive colleague (with fake you-know-whats)…surely not! Is it boorish? Yes. Is it a scandal? Come on.

  44. heyguru says: Oct 12, 2010 2:52 PM

    The internet opens numerous possibilities for fraud. Some people go so far as to use another person’s photo on dating websites, pretending to be someone they are not. So how do we know that the offending wang actually belongs to Brett? It could be a stand-in. A crotch-actor of sorts. An enticement like ice cream or a puppy, to get the young lass to shed her Wranglers. Maybe we should ask Ryan Longwell, who has shared the shower stall with The Accused, and appears to have no problem sharing steamy secrets. Well, Ryan? Is it Brett? Is it some sort of twisted rookie hazing, where a newbie’s knobbie took his place? And what’s with Brett jumping legs askew into Randy Moss’s arms, genitalia flying, after the Monday Night TD? Oh, so many unanswered questions….

  45. Richm2257 says: Oct 12, 2010 2:56 PM

    And what – by the way – do you “apologists” have to say about the two massage therapists? Are they skanks too, who are out for the money? If Favre sent them text messages as well, is this enough of a predatory pattern (a la Roethlisberger) for you yet?
    @Deb, always a pleasure to see you working so hard to defend sexually deviant quarterbacks. Makes all your alleged work helping rape victims ring so sincere.

  46. contract says: Oct 12, 2010 3:01 PM

    Nothing is going to happen because Big Ben already took the hit for no white guys having been suspended under the personal conduct policy.

  47. Tjackfan says: Oct 12, 2010 3:02 PM

    @jdmcmil 2:36 pm
    Have you seen the dick photos? Well, neither did the NFL until last week when deadspin.com published them. I am a massive Vikings fan, and a season ticket holder. Having said that, I can admit when the better team has won fair and square. The Jets didn’t beat the Vikings as a result of sideshow tactics.

  48. Purp Walk says: Oct 12, 2010 3:03 PM

    Not to completely defend what he did, but, if this was a personal exchange between two adults, who cares? What if she sent pics of her wang-ette to him first? NFL could drop it totally. He backed off the massagers when they said they were married, too.

  49. Bens Bodyguard says: Oct 12, 2010 3:03 PM

    For those of you who think that this can’t be a sexual harrassment case needs to look up the rules and take a class.
    I was required to take one at my job. One of the examples they used was a situation where 4 people, 3 guys and 1 girl every monday would tell their wild sex stories from the weekend. All 4 of them gave 110% to the conversations. Then one day the girl wakes up and decides that they shouldn’t be talking about that. Guess what, she was allowed to file charges against the other 3 for sexual harrassment. Despite her contributing to the conversations, despite no warning of saying I dont appreciate these conversations anymore she was able to make the claim and those employees had to be moved to other jobs.

  50. Hauschild says: Oct 12, 2010 3:11 PM

    What a waste of time. The NFL’s only witness does not want to cooperate, so one can reasonably deduce that no harassment occurred. Meaning, all you trolls can crawl back under the bridge and resume your pathetic lives.
    You’re not going to beat #4. He’s the new Chuck Norris of America.

  51. CowboysFansAreAllBandwagonFans says: Oct 12, 2010 3:19 PM

    first became exposed (sometimes the double entendres are impossible to avoid) to Jenn Sterger

    first met Jenn Sterger
    Tada!
    it IS easy to avoid!

  52. Pervy xx says: Oct 12, 2010 3:19 PM

    Brett Favre could give a rats ass what any of you think about legacy. He is rich as hell and has a huge ego…he will say haters are all just a bunch of douchebags….which you are. Man up tools,men cheat.We make beef jerky.We drink until we puke. We fart in public. I swear many of you probably let your old ladies run your life…

  53. Steve W. says: Oct 12, 2010 3:19 PM

    # PackerFanTrappedinMN says: October 12, 2010 1:48 PM
    Sterger cooperating is not critical to the investigation. Two other employees/contractor s have come forward with allegations. If any one of those prove to be valid, the NFL has evidence to proceed.
    ____________________________________
    Yes, but to date I haven’t heard of any evidence to back up their assertions. Not saying that they’re not telling the truth, but without evidence there’s nothing to say that they’re not just trying to cash in on a big story. As for Sterger, not only has she chosen not to file a complaint, there are reports that she might very well not even cooperate with an NFL investigation. So, the story is still very much up in the air.

  54. TomBrady'sHairStylist says: Oct 12, 2010 3:23 PM

    How can you people even believe this is possible, dont you know he has erectile-disfunction…

  55. In & Out Burger says: Oct 12, 2010 3:26 PM

    @Bens Bodyguard
    Thank you.
    If you don’t believe than guy, just do thirty seconds of research and you will see that he is absolutely correct. The best way to avoid anything like this in the workplace, is treat it like a workplace, regardless of your job. This isn’t his home, or a club, or a bar. This is the workplace, and this particular workplace’s boss, can be a real bitch when it comes to punishing behavior.

  56. Richm2257 says: Oct 12, 2010 3:30 PM

    Deb says:
    October 12, 2010 2:38 PM
    @Richm2257 …
    As you well know, Roethlisberger did not write a check.
    ————————————————–POST OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This delusional jock-sniffer actualy BELIEVES this crap!!!!!!!
    I couldn’t find two other people in all of PFT that believe that statement, Deb. Get yourself checked, honey, you have a “star complex”.
    My God, I wish PFT was around at the time of the O.J. trial, would have loved to seen you support that guy! Then again, maybe you wouldn’t; he’s not a QB, and he’s black.
    Just sayin’

  57. JimmyY says: Oct 12, 2010 3:31 PM

    2 years after the fact, come on, get real. If there were legitimate concerns they should have come out the time of the incidents. Now, she’ll get her $400K, or whatever, go away and life goes on.

  58. 1mge says: Oct 12, 2010 3:43 PM

    FACT:
    He gets paid by the Jets and she gets paid by the Jets but HE with a snap of the finger can have her fired. He was in a position of authority and made sexual advances towards her via text, phone calls, and pictures.
    FACT:
    That is textbook sexual harrassment. Call any lawyer and ask them the legal ramifications if you replay’d this same scenario at your workplace.
    No worries though if he’s suspended as a MN State Judge will over rule the suspension!

  59. SDW2001 says: Oct 12, 2010 3:52 PM

    Richm2257 says:
    October 12, 2010 2:56 PM
    And what – by the way – do you “apologists” have to say about the two massage therapists? Are they skanks too, who are out for the money? If Favre sent them text messages as well, is this enough of a predatory pattern (a la Roethlisberger) for you yet?
    —Hold on. “Predatory pattern.” Jeez. Is that what chasing women is called now? He’s a predator? LOL. Get real.

  60. BigBear123 says: Oct 12, 2010 4:02 PM

    For most corporations it is not whether the person involved was offended, it boils down to whether a reasonable person would be offended.
    Sterger does not have to cooperate beyond saying on the record Favre did send those pics and voicemails to me. Whether she was offended or not would be a moot point.

  61. bruce campbells chainsaw hand says: Oct 12, 2010 4:02 PM

    Deb-
    There’s also allegations by two massage therapists. Are you going to denounce those claims because they aren’t as well publicized? At some point, people need to quit protecting Favre – he’s not Jesus like people seem to believe he is.

  62. JetGreeeen says: Oct 12, 2010 4:04 PM

    As someone who recently went thru corporatewide “sensitivity” training….I can definitely say Favre’s actions are gonna be big trouble……expect a suspension…..maybe huge lawsuit.

  63. BigB says: Oct 12, 2010 4:06 PM

    Fantasia says:
    October 12, 2010 1:27 PM
    Gotta be suspended.
    A forty something year old grandfather/football star sending pictures of his crank to a young lady.
    That is just creepy in itself.
    ============
    Actually, when he did this, he was in his 30s and not a grandpa. Just sayin.

  64. themagoo says: Oct 12, 2010 4:16 PM

    @1mge
    soooooo, how did he get her number to sexually harass her? I’d say it was given out voluntarily and she sent him things that Playboy couldn’t show and he returned the favor.
    She isn’t accusing him, she just dropped a little info to deadspin.com, to start something for herself. She just wants some modeling agency to google her photos and give her a call. This will all be dropped in a month.

  65. Fantasia says: Oct 12, 2010 4:25 PM

    Still doesn’t lessen the severity of the creepy behavior. Just sayin.

  66. Steeler-lady says: Oct 12, 2010 4:30 PM

    Im still waiting on evidence Ben did anything wrong…………………………………………………
    Its funny how things have turned around now that the Almighty Brett is involved……..LMAO!!!!!
    Richman … Your a waste of human sperm..When you get proof Ben did anything more than the average man.. Let me know. I dont want the valley girls 3 stories as proof either.. i want solid evidence.
    Basically what you believe is ..every rich man accused is guilty and pays people off?? its impossible a woman just lies to get a payday right? In a country where women will kill their own and fabricate a story to protect herself.. or where a man is set free after years in prison when they find out thru DNA hes INNOCENT (even tho she said he did it)
    Arent you men tired of this routine? All a woman has to do is say it happened n people flock to the story…….. with todays technology its much easier to PROVE someones claims.. lets DEMAND they do it then!
    Even in a domestic case… she can beat on him all damn day n soon as he shoves her ass hes locked away………………….

  67. Hauschild says: Oct 12, 2010 4:33 PM

    I love all these people who sat thru a 20 minute class at work on sexual harassment and are suddenly experts on the criminal investigation process.
    Nothing is going to happen to Favre unless the alleged assailed – who refuses to cooperate – tells the NFL something occurred that is worthy of prosecuting. Without Sterger’s input, it’s over, which really makes a normal mind question the validity of this witch hunt to begin with.
    Simple finds miss subtleties, I guess. Like lack of evidence or will to prosecute and Favre’s miserable offensive line and RB corps that refuse to provide adequate pass protection, consistently, or even remotely consistently.

  68. Rip says: Oct 12, 2010 4:42 PM

    Hauschild says:
    October 12, 2010 3:11 PM
    What a waste of time. The NFL’s only witness does not want to cooperate, so one can reasonably deduce that no harassment occurred. Meaning, all you trolls can crawl back under the bridge and resume your pathetic lives.
    You’re not going to beat #4. He’s the new Chuck Norris of America.
    ———————————
    At 1-3, the real Chuck Norris would kick your ass not for insulting him, but for saying something so obviously stupid.

  69. Deb says: Oct 12, 2010 4:49 PM

    @Bens Bodyguard …
    I know how the rules apply. BUT IT’S WRONG. If a woman actively participates in telling wild sex stories every day, it’s WRONG that one day she can walk in, change her mind, and win a big sexual harassment claim. If a woman goes out, deliberately gets drunk out of her skull, climbs all over a guy and willingly beds him, it’s WRONG that she can then say she was raped because she was too drunk to consent–never mind that she did consent and he was drunk, too.
    Yes, I know that’s how it works, but it’s insulting to women who actually take responsibility for their behavior and their bodies. It’s insulting to women who worked in REAL hostile environments and who were victims of actual VIOLENT rapes. I want equal treatment, not the freedom to be an irresponsible airhead bimbo then go out make some man pay for my stupidity.
    @Bruce Campbells Chainsaw Hand …
    And you little boys need to grow up. I’m not defending Brett Favre anymore than I defended Ben Roethlisberger. So far I’ve heard rumors but seen no proof of massage therapists alleging unwanted sexting. If I see proof, I’ll revise. Until then, I work on the presumption of innocence. The question isn’t whether these guys are choirboys, it’s whether they’ve broken laws or violated the rights of coworkers. Until I see proof of that, I’m going to say their personal sexual pecadilloes are just that: personal.
    That does not mean I approve of their behavior–or that I like either of these guys. I think they’re good football players, but I wouldn’t care to hang out with them. I find their behavior appalling, but it’s none of my business. Brett’s adultery is between him and his wife. I’m glad you guys are all perfect, but I’m not, so I’m not collecting stones to cast.

  70. Pervy xx says: Oct 12, 2010 4:58 PM

    Steeler-lady says:Even in a domestic case… she can beat on him all damn day n soon as he shoves her ass hes locked away……………. ……
    ===================================Not really….a fews hogs in the pig pen will take care of our evidence….

  71. Deb says: Oct 12, 2010 5:01 PM

    @Richm2257 …
    I don’t give a damn what you THINK. I only care what the evidence says. There was NO evidence of assault in Georgia. The DA said he did not even have enough for probable cause– the reasonable assumption that a crime was committed. He said he COULD NOT pursue the case with or without the accuser’s cooperation because he COULD NOT PROVE she was penetrated or that whatever occurred was against her will. You would know this if you studied the case files instead of just your own saturated-by-hate pea brain.
    Therefore, the ONLY reason Roethlisberger would have to pay her off would be to get her to withdraw the accusation, which SHE HAS NOT DONE. You don’t pay for nothing, squirt. Logic 101. Too bad you flunked that course.
    I have not said or done anything to make you or anyone else think my support for a man would vary depending on the color of his skin, you filth. Don’t judge me by your own sick standards. In all these cases, I’m looking at the evidence, nothing more. Ben Roethlisberger QBs my team and he’s good at it, which makes me happy. Otherwise, I don’t really care for him.
    On the other hand, I adored O.J. Simpson. I’m not much of a celebrity watcher, and he was a rare childhood icon for me. I was devastated by his arrest and completely supported him until well into the trial when the evidence against him became overwhelming. Wish I could still believe in his innocence, but unlike you, I was born with a brain.

  72. Craphonso says: Oct 12, 2010 5:02 PM

    You can put it in the hands of a judge, but it will never stand up in court.

  73. crazyguy says: Oct 12, 2010 5:03 PM

    “But our issue here is the conduct of our employees and the question of whether this is a case of sexual harassment.”
    In our workplace, no one has to complain for it to be sexual harassment. If something is witnessed that is sexually insinuated (no matter if it is offensive or not) it can be charged as harassment and termination can happen without a warning.
    Basically, I can be messing around at work and pretending to be on the football field and smack my friend John in the ass at the end of the day and say “Good game!” and I could be written up/terminated due to sexual harassment.
    This isn’t grandpa’s America anymore people.

  74. steelersmichele says: Oct 12, 2010 5:13 PM

    I think the league will be very careful how they word their results so they won’t have to suspend Favre.
    For example, saying they are investigating “sexual harassment” is an easy way for the league to say he sent pictures and texts to her, but she wasn’t offended and could still perform her job in a comfortable environment, therefore there was no sexual harassment.
    He won’t be suspended. Goodell has double standards for players and he won’t have the guts to suspend Favre.

  75. JRG3 says: Oct 12, 2010 5:17 PM

    Somewhere in Minny, Brett Pevre is writing the “fall” portion of the “Rise and fall of Brett Favre” book. comes with a tiny plastic lombardi trophy, a bottle of pain killers, and a blackberry.
    oh and a pair of flip flops

  76. Bens Bodyguard says: Oct 12, 2010 5:32 PM

    @ Deb
    I agree with you 100% but those are the laws. I was just pointing out to the people who believe it can’t be sexual harrassment or she can’t change here mind and decide to file a claim. Sad but true
    The sexual harrassment rules are so f’d up that you can be brought up on charges for just hanging a postcard from florida/california with a picture of a women in a two piece or a man in a speedo that your friend sent you whenon vacation

  77. CaptainMarvel says: Oct 12, 2010 5:41 PM

    Most of you hate Favre so much you can’t even think clearly. For anyone to even believe for a second that Jen-what’s-her-name is a poor “victim” you have to be out of your mind.

  78. Deb says: Oct 12, 2010 6:31 PM

    @Bens Bodyguard …
    It’s like zero-tolerance policies re weapons in school where they end up suspending a first-grader for having a plastic butter knife.
    You can’t sympathize with a married celeb who not only steps out on his wife, but is stupid enough to leave voice recordings and possibly photos that could be used to blackmail him later. But how can so many sympathize with the woman who kept a photo of his wee wee as a memento long after they both left the Jets’ employ? Victims don’t keep scrapbooks of their harrassers’ penises.
    You can’t help wishing the world could operate on just a little common sense–for the sake of the women who really have been or are at risk of being victimized.

  79. jallday13 says: Oct 12, 2010 6:31 PM

    you guys are gay and these comments prove it.

  80. prophet of the light says: Oct 12, 2010 6:31 PM

    I’m surprised they are not investigating whether or not he can be fellated.

  81. muchmaligned says: Oct 12, 2010 6:46 PM

    @Deb,
    I generally disagree with every post you’ve provided, because they have exposed you as a star-phucker whose only measure of guilt or innocence is ethnicity and team affiliation. However, there is no way you should indulge the idiocy of BensBodyguard. His position is based on a false postulate. He cannot produce any statute in any jurisdiction which supports his contentions. All any of these turds has produced is anecdotal “evidence” that blah, blah, blah happened to so-and-so. Just because legal action can be taken, or your “friend” got fired that does not mean it is based in law or policy. That’s what jurisprudence is for.
    In this case, nothing more has been suggested than what amounts to inter-office fraternization. If this is the case, Mr. Favre has just as much right to redress as whoever this broad is (never heard of her until now).
    Turds, please produce any statute in any jurisdiction which explicitly states that fraternization between employees is tantamount to legally defined sexual harassment…

  82. Bens Bodyguard says: Oct 12, 2010 11:21 PM

    @ muchmaligned
    I previously stated that my job required me to go to sexual harrassment training at my job. While they didn’t give out names they clearly stated a example of a situation that occured in my place of business and that those employees had to be removed and sentd elsewhere . While they didn’t lose their job but it could have hurt them in the pocket by either taking a downgrade or having to travel alot farther to go to work and all because someone who contributed to the so called harrassment filed a complaint.
    Do you know that if you for example hang a calander in your cubicle say of your favorite teams cheerleaders, that even if you don’t tell anyone you got one, someone can walk by, see it and complain to your boss to have you take it down? If you don’t you can be charged with sexual harrassment.
    While the sexual harrassment laws were put into place mostly to stop bosses from doing some of the things farve supposingly did as well as stopping bosses from allowing employees to have to give sexual favors for advancement. The proble is they added total bs to it

  83. muchmaligned says: Oct 13, 2010 11:09 AM

    @ Bensbodyguard,
    So, you have no idea what a statute is. Even the descriptions of company policy you allege sound specious.
    Thanks for participating!

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