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Vikings need to get Favre off the field, now

We know that in some circles this will be viewed as blasphemy.  But it’s time.  He’s too banged up, and he’s too distracted.  Most importantly, he’s just not getting it done.

The Vikings need to find a way to get Brett Favre off the field.

Two years ago, Tarvaris Jackson entered the season as the starting quarterback in Minnesota.  After two losses — by five to the Packers in their first post-Favre game and three to the Colts — Jackson unceremoniously was benched, in favor of Gus Frerotte.

Jackson’s stats weren’t bad.  He had completed 30 of 59 passes for 308 yards, with one touchdown and one interception.  He also ran for 65 yards against the Packers.

This year, Favre has five touchdown passes and seven interceptions through four games.  His passer rating of 67.0 is lower than any full-season rating of his 20-year career.

More importantly, he’s banged up and, in crunch time of last night’s loss to the Jets, grossly inaccurate.  It seems as if he’s playing only to show that he can keep playing.  With 11 games to go until he accomplishes the unprecedented feat of 300 straight starts and with 12 games to go in the season, we can’t imagine Favre stepping aside voluntarily.

It’s highly unlikely if not impossible that the Vikings would bench him.  But they need to find a way to give T-Jack a chance.  The season can still be saved.  The defensive is still potent.  Adrian Peterson is still Adrian Peterson.

In 1998, when Randy Moss was a rookie, it generally was believed that any quarterback with the arm to throw a deep ball could be a star with Moss running under the rainbow passes and somehow coming up with the catch.  So why not Jackson now?  Percy Harvin already has become a faster, more explosive version of Wes Welker with Moss clearing out the underneath areas.  Given Moss and Harvin, the Vikings simply don’t need Favre as much as they thought they did.

Then there’s the fact that Jackson was Brad Childress’ hand-picked quarterback of the future back in 2006.  Childress still believes that Jackson could be that guy, even if the future is taking much longer to unfold than previously believed.

If it happens, it won’t be a benching.  As Jason Whitlock of FOXSports.com suggested a few weeks back, Favre’s cocktail of injuries could result in placement on injured reserve.  And as the off-field issues escalate, landing on IR could be a lot more palatable than taking a suspension.

Either way, the Vikings need to seriously consider giving the keys to Tarvaris Jackson.  Given that he performed extremely well at times without guys like Harvin and Moss running routes, Jackson could be the slap in the ass that the Vikings desperately need, right now.

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245 Responses to “Vikings need to get Favre off the field, now”
  1. Philtration says: Oct 12, 2010 11:50 AM

    My… my….
    How the over hyped have fallen.
    Calling for Tarvaris Jackson is a sure sign that you suck and are not going anywhere.

  2. Playmaker's Dealer says: Oct 12, 2010 11:51 AM

    Forget about Favre– I think you need to watch more tape of Jackson. He’s horrendous. Not an NFL QB.

  3. NFLFOLLIES says: Oct 12, 2010 11:51 AM

    Tavaris Jackson isn’t any good which is why they brought in a 40 year old QB in the first place.It wasn’t Farve’s job to pick up the blitzes that destroyed their offense in the first half.Also don’t forget the many boneheaded offensive penalties and receiver drops.

  4. Citizen Strange says: Oct 12, 2010 11:51 AM

    In a related note Wes Welker will become a slower, less explosive version of Wes Welker without Moss clearing out the underneath areas.

  5. Hauschild says: Oct 12, 2010 11:52 AM

    Anybody that believes Brett Favre is not the Vikings best option is delusional.
    Just relax, haters and pot-stir-ers. The season is FAVRE from over.

  6. PatricktheDookie says: Oct 12, 2010 11:54 AM

    You really think that Tarvaris Jackson is better than anybody?
    This is a joke, right?
    There were some Bears fans who wanted Cutler out and Collins in. They didn’t think it could get worse than 9 sacks in a half. 32 yards passing and 4 interceptions in the next game says they were wrong.
    Favre eventually found success and was moving the ball on the road in the rain versus the best defense in football. If you’re going to bench Favre, you don’t do so after a performance that most guys in the league couldn’t even match.

  7. garywizard says: Oct 12, 2010 11:54 AM

    Why not Daunte now ??? (think out of the box for once guys) … Tavaris Jackson can’t throw the ball deep to save his life

  8. Ravensatron says: Oct 12, 2010 11:54 AM

    Definitely definitely won’t happen unless Favre is pretty much dead

  9. Floridacock says: Oct 12, 2010 11:55 AM

    Or not, good thing bloggers don’t coach NFL or any other teams.

  10. fritz3249 says: Oct 12, 2010 11:55 AM

    Except that Jackson can’t read coverages and gets hurt all the time.

  11. rusH1023 says: Oct 12, 2010 11:57 AM

    The defensive still potent.
    In 1998, when Randy Moss was a rookie, it generally was believed that any quarterback with the arm to throw a deep ball could be a star with Moss running running under the rainbow passes and somehow coming up with the catch.
    I agree. Get him out of there.

  12. jaxdolfan says: Oct 12, 2010 11:57 AM

    From here forward, the verb “Farved” should be used whenever a QB throws a game ending interception.

  13. sammieboy says: Oct 12, 2010 11:57 AM

    Cut Farve or put him on IR and then trade a 2nd round to Eagles for Vick. Imagine, Vick, Moss, AP, and Parcy. Add Rice in 5 weeks and they can make the playoffs. The big issue is on 3rd down as they don’t have a 3rd down back to catch and pass block. With Vick on this team they don’t need that 3rd down back as Vick can allude the rush and throw the ball deep to Moss.

  14. sven_ftw says: Oct 12, 2010 11:57 AM

    the only reason your post is preposterous is because if you’re gonna stick a fork in the season, you may as well let that firecracker joe webb get some game experience, too.

  15. Pwnzi77 says: Oct 12, 2010 11:58 AM

    Harvin a faster more explosive version of wes elker? ummmm no.

  16. jahbird says: Oct 12, 2010 11:58 AM

    This Vikes/Cowboys game is going to be better theater than Shakespeare.

  17. Mike says: Oct 12, 2010 11:59 AM

    good story… plus these guys on espn would leave bret favre alone. they say he is getting away with things because he’s white??? i dont understand that. theres only a few black qbs in the league how come theyre making racial accusations??? the no namer on arizona was getting beat up all day and no one said it was because he’s white ahahaha.

  18. mathusker says: Oct 12, 2010 11:59 AM

    Seriously, bench Farve for Jackson. While I agree that Faver (spelt that way for a reason) is not getting it done – I think its very fair to say that Jackson is NOT the answer. If they want to make a run this year – perhaps they bring back…. wait for it….
    Culpepper…. HAHAHAH what an organization in disarray – haw can you not ride on the sholder of AP? Childress, Farve and co are RUN out of MN.
    Sometimes money cannot buy you happiness – sorry Vikes Fans

  19. Chitown says: Oct 12, 2010 11:59 AM

    There is no way Favre finishes his career on IR. They are going to have to drag his cold dead carcass off the field. You can’t bench a player guaranteed 20M. When they are eliminated from the playoff contention he will retire. The NFC sucks so much that the Vikings will make the playoffs.

  20. irishgary says: Oct 12, 2010 12:00 PM

    But this is the best team he’s ever played on.

  21. Pwnzi77 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:00 PM

    Harvin a faster more explosive version of Welker? ummm no.

  22. HomoforRomo says: Oct 12, 2010 12:00 PM

    Agree, for once Jason Whitlock is correct- in a couple of games when they are out of the playoff hunt he will go on IR for the year for whatever injury he has at the time, and will ride off into the sunset with his 14 (or was it 17?) million, leaving the Vikes with Tavaris Jackson and no Sage Rosenfels, no QB able to get the ball downfield to Rice, Moss, Harvin, et al, and then they will be unhappy campers, leaving a great big mess. Maybe they should actually call Whitlock’s buddy Jeff George, his only real success was in Minn w/Moss. Jackson simply cannot get the ball downfield to the WR’s they have.

  23. Jeff W says: Oct 12, 2010 12:00 PM

    BS… He hasn’t had any offensive weapons all year and their OL has played like scared little girls.

  24. Jeremy says: Oct 12, 2010 12:01 PM

    Wouldn’t that be priceless. After FINALLY getting to play with Randy Moss, they put Favre on the bench.
    Obviously would never happen, though.

  25. BleedGreen says: Oct 12, 2010 12:01 PM

    Its tough to say. That division is garbage and no one looks like a true contender. The Bears look slightly above average. The Packers are decimated with injuries. The Lions look slightly below average. They still have a chance to win the division. If there was a team TRULY running away with the division, I’d say you give him another loss or two to turn it around before flushing the season and putting in Jackson. But if the Bears don’t continue to play well, 8-8 could get you in.

  26. J-Rzo says: Oct 12, 2010 12:01 PM

    Is this a joke? Ha ha! if not for Favre, they wouldn’t have been in the game at all last night. Yes, he’s been “off”, but really? You have to be kidding me.

  27. ohgoodie says: Oct 12, 2010 12:02 PM

    In a word…..Wow.
    I’ve always thought that Tarvaris took too much heat for the offenses ineptitude, particularly when he was throwing to guys like Bobby Wade, Troy Williamson, Turd Ferguson and a less than confident Shaincoe but this may be pushing it a bit.
    Tarvaris under center with this kind of offense might be interesting as it would give them another athlete on the field with a strong arm, but I don’t think Jackson has what it takes to lead a team to a superbowl

  28. BigBear123 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:02 PM

    Should never had asked him back, now they’re stuck with a sonking ship and a captain plowing full steam ahead oblivious to the fact the ship is sinking.
    It’s a beautiful thing.

  29. flyer says: Oct 12, 2010 12:02 PM

    good call. i agree completely. favre is a nightmare.

  30. Chiefs2010 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:02 PM

    I agree, I had the vikes +4.5 and he blew it.
    Dude’s thrown that same interception his whole career.. right in the flat for a pick 6

  31. JerseyCheese says: Oct 12, 2010 12:02 PM

    LOL!!!
    All that Packer bashing and now you are finally starting to go against you’re own team!
    You’re trash Florio!!!

  32. bleedgreen422 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:03 PM

    Lets just be honest here for a moment, until Favre’s arm literally falls off, I don’t see him being benched. Considering how he acted during his one season with the Jets, its probable that he’ll play through the injury, and then in hindsight admit he was more hurt then he let on (perhaps his tendinitis is in reality a torn tendon or ligament) and then everyone can talk about how gutsy his performance was, or how negligent the coaches were, either way it appears unlikely Favre will step aside for the sake of the team.
    While he did make some good throws last night (ie: his two touchdown passes) the glimpse of his golden years was overshadowed by the looming figure of old age and body failure (ie: the end of the game where he missed countless open receivers)
    Maybe it’s time to start wondering where Favre considers his breaking point to be, or if he’s even willing to consider such a thing in the first place.
    Florio, I need a job after college, hire me!

  33. QinCT says: Oct 12, 2010 12:03 PM

    I couldn’t agree more!!! I never wanted Favre in the first place and now the ship is sinking…

  34. Agent Cooper says: Oct 12, 2010 12:03 PM

    Ridiculously stupid. Do you really think Tarvaris Jackson could have thrown for 3 touchdowns against the Jets defense last night? Does ANYONE think Tarvaris could come in and save the season? Just another case of a sportswriter engaging in histrionics to create controversy simply for the sake of controversy.

  35. Tjackfan says: Oct 12, 2010 12:03 PM

    AMEN! I have been saying this since July.

  36. Dewey Axewoond says: Oct 12, 2010 12:04 PM

    I don’t care if you make a Voltron-style super QB out of pieces from Montana, Marino, Bradshaw, Unitas, Brady, and Young–the Queens’ season is ending disastrously, regardless of who’s under center.
    As I’ve been saying for years, you can almost set your watch by it.
    Also, just wanted to make sure we were all clear on this:
    BEARS 4-1
    Pack 3-2
    CryQueers 1-3
    Lions 1-4
    Stick your little asterisks wherever you want (or put whatever you want in your asterisk), and say the Bears are “lucky”–but as Hank Chinaski said in the movie Barfly: Luck counts, too.
    And wouldn’t the Biqueefs want some of that same “luck” right about now?

  37. Lott42 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:04 PM

    It would be pretty interesting to see how many game ending losses were due to Favre throwing a INT. I bet the number would be eye opening.

  38. damnvarmint says: Oct 12, 2010 12:04 PM

    You should stick to applying your legal knowledge to dong shots and leave the football analysis to MDS or Rosy.

  39. rbrtvndrvn says: Oct 12, 2010 12:04 PM

    I stopped reading this non sense at “Percy Harvin already has become a faster, more explosive version of Wes Welker “

  40. Slow Joe says: Oct 12, 2010 12:05 PM

    Um, have you ever watched Tarvaris Jackson?

  41. Supersuckers2 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:05 PM

    This is all playing out like the train wreck we said it would. Throw in a sex scandal and its now the Hindenburg!!

  42. MrMicrophone says: Oct 12, 2010 12:05 PM

    As much as I’d like to see Favre leave the field for good I just can’t see TJ being better for the Vikes right now. Unless Favre’s penis-elbow, I mean tendenitis, continues to be a problem.

  43. Livinginclip says: Oct 12, 2010 12:06 PM

    Wont happen. Chilly doesn’t have the nuts to do it. They’re going to let him tank their season.

  44. VikesBlowHorn says: Oct 12, 2010 12:06 PM

    “Slap in the ass”?
    Let’s keep the gay stuff in the Vikings locker room.

  45. Everybody Loves Mike Florio says: Oct 12, 2010 12:06 PM

    That, or buy Sage Rosenfels some flowers & beg him to come back

  46. Punt Intended says: Oct 12, 2010 12:07 PM

    Although it’s probably not a bad idea for the Vikings to soon consider using Jackson, given the situation they’ve developed by standing by Favre I don’t see them letting the decision go easily.
    Favre last night played a better game than Sanchez did, but one player does not a team make. The Vikings could be better served trying to sort out their o-line which isn’t giving Favre enough time to get the ball out (on about two thirds of his snaps) and aren’t executing blocking well enough for the monster AP to get it going.
    Furthermore, in 1998 when Randy Moss entered the league, he was a young man with something to prove. In 2010 if you take out Favre, Moss is an old dude with (in comparison) a relative unknown throwing him the ball and he’s not happy about it. He doesn’t win jump balls like he used to. He doesn’t have the step that he used to. Even in 2009 Revis was necessary, and in 2010…well Cromartie did a “good enough” job to keep him mostly contained for the night.
    The Vikings came out last night, in terribly inclement weather, on the road, with Randy Moss newly plugged into their offense, with all the Brett Favre issues going on with the pictures and his arm, and they posted the 2nd highest total scored on the Jets to date, nearly a full TD higher than their average allowed.
    I would imagine when Favre does go, it will be on his own accord. Certainly it may be during this season, but I suspect it will be “retiring due to not actually winning and i hurt too much to bother trying if i can’t win”

  47. shaggeez says: Oct 12, 2010 12:07 PM

    the fumbles made favres game look pretty bad, but his actual throwing wasnt at all. the miss to harvin at the end was a bust, but given how poorly his offense played all night with penalties, he did ok. if you look at his first two touchdown passes, they were both on around 3rd and 16ish against a top-notch defense. already you see the moss effect on the offense with opening things up underneath for percy harvin. the season is still salvageable since the nfc has been so bad this year. a 9-7 record could probably get a wild card .

  48. ejtowne says: Oct 12, 2010 12:07 PM

    No way, you must be joking. Brett Favre is Brett Favre, he will come back from this funk sooner rather than later. T. Jackson may be the future but, thats why they call it the future.

  49. Brazy says: Oct 12, 2010 12:07 PM

    ha. save your couch QB opinions for your family at the dinner table. Your job is to report what real football people are saying. You are not a football guy. You couldn’t tell a wheel route from a wheel barrow.
    Just keep this site what it’s for.
    For us Football junkies to find the stories being written by football writers across America, all in one spot. Saving us hours and hours of google searches.
    Thanks Douche!

  50. Infidel says: Oct 12, 2010 12:07 PM

    “I know I can play. I just don’t want to.”

  51. Andyman says: Oct 12, 2010 12:07 PM

    “Jackson’s stats weren’t bad. He had completed 30 of 59 passes for 308 yards, with one touchdown and one interception.”
    What then is your standard of ‘bad’?

  52. fantasy11 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:08 PM

    Florio is an idiot, actually maybe dumber than TJACK if that is possible. Florio probably would get a 5 on the wunderlic.

  53. LionsSuhperbowl says: Oct 12, 2010 12:08 PM

    Good for the Vikings they sold their soul to bring this guy back when he is clearly past his prime. Has a coach ever looked more clueless than Chilly?

  54. juggerkloos says: Oct 12, 2010 12:08 PM

    I agree with you 100 percent and i made an account just to acknowledge this. i remember last year against the panthers when favre would refuse to come out.. i m honestly hoping for some sort of injury to happen to him.. not to bad but enough to put tjack in ffs

  55. gypjet says: Oct 12, 2010 12:09 PM

    Favre is still better than half the loser QBs in the league on his worst day.

  56. MNRunLeft says: Oct 12, 2010 12:09 PM

    Unless Favre is suspended or the injury gets to the point that he can now longer throw the ball there is no way the Vikings can or will bench Favre. A 1 or 2 game suspension for violating the personal conduct policy may not be a bad thing though it would give his elbow a chance to heal, without causing a riot in the locker room like a Favre benching would.

  57. MuskyHunter2542 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:09 PM

    OMG, I cant believe I just read that… LOL

  58. green man says: Oct 12, 2010 12:09 PM

    I hate when I get redirected, I swear I typed in “profootballtalk.com” but somehow ended up at “isuckvikingtaint.com”? Weird…

  59. Who is Mike Jones says: Oct 12, 2010 12:09 PM

    8-8

  60. jbwbubba says: Oct 12, 2010 12:10 PM

    Wow, you really hate Favre’s guts don’t you Florio!! You push that silly texting story and now calling for his benching after a poor game in the rain against the jets D.
    Let me guess you went to a packer game and gave Favre a coke after the game and instead of giving you his jersey he kicked you in the groin.

  61. tikyle says: Oct 12, 2010 12:10 PM

    Never gonna happen. $20M don’t sit the bench.

  62. CDFloyd says: Oct 12, 2010 12:10 PM

    Are you kidding me? That’s probably the most biased/opinionated thing I’ve ever read. You’re gonna tell me a 20-year future HoF quaterback, that is some-what in the dicussion for best of all time needs to retire because he had four bad games? Not to mention the fact that it was pouring down rain last night.. that doesn’t have anything to do with inaccuarcy.
    Everyone jumps to conclusions now. Woody Paige is saying Arian Foster is better than Peterson? Vick was considered the best QB in the league after two games. I just don’t understand.. and I’m an Eagles’ fan. Favre will be fine, give it two games.

  63. Gunny D says: Oct 12, 2010 12:10 PM

    Florio, you’re an idiot! Yeah, he looked real bad last nite…..with his 500th, 501st, and 502nd TD pass, over 70,000 yards……Tavarous WHO??? Get real!!!

  64. NFLFAN12 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:10 PM

    The guy throws 3 td’s against the Jet’s D, and Florio is calling for his head… was I watching the same game? I thought Brett played pretty good except for a few throws. What QB plays decent against that blitz happy D. 4 weeks in and they are calling for his head?? Hey, whatever the Queens have to do I guess…..

  65. alewatcher says: Oct 12, 2010 12:11 PM

    Favre has been playing for no other reason than to pad his stats for the last three seasons. Any other QB that was playing this badly would have already been benched, but because it’s Lord Favre, he stays in the game. God forbid The Streak should be broken.
    Even worse, when Favre finally does retire for good, the Vikings have no proven replacement at QB. TJack has been a man about the situation, much to his credit. I think the only the Vikings get Favre off the field is to put him on IR.

  66. gator_prof says: Oct 12, 2010 12:12 PM

    TJack as the solution over Farve? Do you actually watch football or do you just merely write about it?
    It is one thing to say that Farve shouldn’t have come back and is washed up, but it is quite another to claim TJack as the solution.

  67. WarrenMoonGOAT says: Oct 12, 2010 12:12 PM

    yes TJ needs his time to shine

  68. SuckItTrebec says: Oct 12, 2010 12:13 PM

    I don’t agree at all with this. These are the ramblings of another panicked fan. The big picture is Favre is the only QB we have or can acquire that can lead them to the Super Bowl. And while that is debatable, no one gives Jackson any chance of taking them anywhere.
    Sooner or later the media focus will be off the Vikings and maybe ESPN, Florio, et al can focus on the Saints struggles or how Revis Island was taken over by Percy Harvin.

  69. eb says: Oct 12, 2010 12:13 PM

    I guess the Packers thought the same thing about 3 years ago and I’ll bet the Jets thought it two years ago.
    Either way, #4 is still someone I want to watch play each week.

  70. jimmySee says: Oct 12, 2010 12:13 PM

    “Iron Man” Lou Gehrig took himself out of the game when it was time.

  71. Thrillhouse763 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:14 PM

    Childress doesn’t have the balls to bench him or put Favre on the IR. He tried to bench him last season against the Panthers and Favre just ignored him. And honestly, Favre will just retire if he is put on the IR. So far this season has been an utter failure.

  72. HarrisonHits says: Oct 12, 2010 12:15 PM

    “In 1998, when Randy Moss was a rookie, it generally was believed that any quarterback with the arm to throw a deep ball could be a star with Moss running running under the rainbow passes and somehow coming up with the catch. So why not Jackson now?”
    Why not Jackson ? Because Moss is not the same Moss as he was in 1998. Because I would guess something like 50% of Brady’s INTs in 2009 and this year have been long bombs to Moss that he failed to win the jump battle on or position himself properly to make the catch.
    There are very good reasons the Pats are moving away from the long bomb offense. The Vikes would be smart to pay attention.

  73. CryBaby Favre says: Oct 12, 2010 12:15 PM

    Wow Florio, way to hit the Panick button. If Jackson was starting that game last night the Vikes dont score a td. You live by the Favre and you die by the Favre. He was the reason you were in the game and he was the reason you lost. End of story. But the vikes have no chance without him.

  74. lars thorwald says: Oct 12, 2010 12:15 PM

    While I concur that Favre didn’t look his best last night, I’m not sure that Tarvaris Jackson is the answer.
    This team is going to get blown up after this season. 18 free agents, and #4 is very unlikely to return. They have to win now, or forget about it for a long time. As battered and broken as he is, Favre is their only hope…….

  75. Bob Loblaw says: Oct 12, 2010 12:15 PM

    I get it. You’re trying to generate 100-200 comments for a post that even youy don’t honestly believe. Throw out a controversial statement and Brett favre’s name and you’ll get your most commented post of the day.
    The primary problems with the Vikings offense has not bee Favre, but blitz pickup. None of the RBs are very good at it, and they’ve used four (YES FOUR!!!) different centers in four games. Without quality blitz pickup, Favre hasn’t had a chance to throw downfield or go through his progressions and find the mismatch.
    Last night they switched to Jon Copper, who was able to identify blitzes and call out protections. They also switched to two backs in blitz pickup.
    The result? Three TD drives in the final 1 1/2 quarters. With that kind of pass protections and some better field position (defense was stingy in keeping the Jets out of the end zone most of the game, but didn’t force a turnover), and the offense will be as potent as it was last season when Favre had what was considered his best season of his career.

  76. psj3809 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:15 PM

    Did you think the Vikes should have benched Favre at halftime ? Course you did. Favre then throws 3 second half td’s and i bet you changed your mind again. Yeah it was a bad pass at the end but because of his strong second half i wouldnt do anything rash.
    Pundits like yourself seem to change your mind every minute. Bet August 2009 you thought ‘Please favre retire’ and then had to eat your words after his great season.

  77. The Oracle says: Oct 12, 2010 12:15 PM

    Maybe the Vikings should have drafted Jimmy Clausen instead of a CB. That way they actually had some hope for the future after FaRVe is done. He could be learning from FaRVe right now and be ready to take over in the event FaRVe is too hurt to play. After this year that team will be horrible for the next few years because Jackson is not the answer. I feel bad for the Vikings fan base because the management of that team is too stupid and/or arrogant to draft a franchise QB so they can keep rolling once they figure out the FaRVe experiment isn’t working.

  78. Sterling says: Oct 12, 2010 12:15 PM

    Right. I’m sure Jackson could make that fantastic throw to Percy Harvin, or the long bomb to Randy Moss. Get real. If Jackson was nearly as good as you say, they’d never have gone out and gotten Favre.
    Even Brady barely completed 50% of his passes and had 3 TOs against the Jets, with a passer rating of 72. You gonna take him off the field, too? The Jets are insane defensively, the best in the league.

  79. Manbearpig says: Oct 12, 2010 12:15 PM

    Have you ever watched Jackson play QB? Obviously not.

  80. GumboFilledEaglesDrunk says: Oct 12, 2010 12:16 PM

    I feel as if I should say something about a door and his ass….
    Failve

  81. favrecansuckit says: Oct 12, 2010 12:17 PM

    They’ll never bench him, he’ll quit before that happens.

  82. Nemex0 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:18 PM

    Favre is their QB for now stop

  83. Fire_Chilly says: Oct 12, 2010 12:18 PM

    Tony Stark never took himself out of a game Jimmy

  84. Beej0917 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:18 PM

    Just as everyone else already said. You might want to think about saving face and deleting this article. Favre is Minn. best option right now period. I am a better QB then “T-Jack” and I only get off my couch on Sundays to get another bag of chips.

  85. Didier says: Oct 12, 2010 12:23 PM

    The main thing holding the Vikings back now that Moss is on the team is Favre.
    As I said from the beginning, Favre came back one year too many and now it appears to fill his wallet when he suspected he would lose sponsorships when this sexual harassment problem came to light.
    Again, as I’ve said, Favre will throw more INTs than TDs and will not finish the season as the Vikings’ quarterback.

  86. JimmySmith says: Oct 12, 2010 12:24 PM

    This is a joke, right? First of all, if Childress couldn’t even get Favre off the field last season in the infamous, “Childress is my personal bitch” game on national TV, what chance does Col Klink have now?
    For the fat $20 million they spent, they are stuck with Favre until Favre decides he can’t play anymore. Even Ziggy looking down from the press box has to realize that giving control over your entire team to a sexual perverted diva was probably not a good idea. It’s not like Klink grew a pair of balls overnight, he is powerless as he is clueless.
    As to the second point, the rest of the NFL is praying for the T Jack Off experiment to start again. He is as clueless as his head coach, he can run but as Vick has shown in the past, defenses can run too and it’s just a matter of time before IR is the spot where he lands.
    For the rest of the NFC North, never in our wildest dreams would we think this season would unfold in such a spectacular failure for the Vikings. We don’t’ wish ill will but actions have consequences and the courting of a washed up INT machine who is a “ME First” teammate is a recipe for disaster and it is unfolding in spades.
    Happy 50th Anniversary Vikings, let the celebrations begin.

  87. thirdandgoal says: Oct 12, 2010 12:24 PM

    i know i’m in the minority, but i actually saw the makings of a offensive machine that should be hitting on all cylinders in a couple more weeks with the addition of moss. the question is, will that be soon enough. i think the vikings must win the next 3 games to stay relevant.

  88. Tjackfan says: Oct 12, 2010 12:26 PM

    When Tarvaris was hitting Shiancoe in the numbers, and he was dropping the ball in the end zone, it was Tarvaris’ fault. However, when Favre throws into double coverage and it gets picked off, it’s Bernard Berrian’s fault. The double standard for this guy is sickening. Tarvaris played 2007 with Troy Williamson, who is no longer in the league. Sidney Rice had an injury in 2008, and Visanthe Shiancoe could not catch. Tarvaris has never gotten the opportunity to play with Percy Harvin, a deep threat who can catch and adjust to the ball (Moss/Rice), and a tight end who doesn’t let the ball bounce off of his chest in the end zone against the Colts in week two. I am very interested to see what Tarvaris can do with these sorts of weapons. All of you idiots need to drop your man crushes on Favre, and realize that he is done!

  89. slickzmoney says: Oct 12, 2010 12:29 PM

    He will be fine until week 12 @Redskins his last game compliments of Orakpo

  90. Ron says: Oct 12, 2010 12:29 PM

    Mike, you made several GREAT points here about Favre. He is banged up severely and with all that is going on in his personal life and the friction between he and Childress, shutting it down might not be a bad idea. But here is the other side of that argument: Tavaris Jackson has been a Viking for 4 years and while he’s shown some bright spots, I’ve seen him stink it up many times too. Remember the Eagles playoff game 2 years ago? I’ll never forget it.
    I’m a life-long Viking fan and as a longtime Favre-hater, I would like nothing more than to see Favre shut it down. But I just wonder if Jackson could make those tough throws over the middle in crucial times in games.
    There is NO doubt that Jackson can throw the deep ball to Moss, in fact with his legs, he could even provide more opportunities for Moss to score because of Jackson’s mobility. The question is how much has he learned from watching Favre for over a year? When Jackson was the QB, Childress never let Jackson audible because he didn’t know the offense well enough, but if he knows it now, and he should, then maybe Jackson can provide that spark the Vikings desperately need.

  91. KS1980 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:30 PM

    Favre would need a full game like the 1st half last night, before I would think about benching him for Tavaris. Tavaris has the legs to move the pocket, but that is it. If you thought Favre wasn’t accurate throwing the ball last night, go back and watch some film of Jackson. The only was Jackson is going to play is if Favre comes out on a stretcher.

  92. SJ Apollo says: Oct 12, 2010 12:31 PM

    “I thought Brett played pretty good except for a few throws.”
    42%, 2 fumbles, 1 pick-6. Every time Favre has a chance to win a game, they announcers always love to bring up that Favre has 29 4th quarter comebacks. What they never tell you is how many of those games required the comebacks because of Favre’s earlier mistakes. Over his career, Favre has had 30 interceptions returned for touchdowns (34 with the playoffs). That’s not counting the interceptions that killed his team’s chance for a comeback like in the NFC championship games against the Saints and Giants or in OT against the Eagles to name a few.
    Favre has a reputation for being a clutch player (well, now it’s for clutching his little player), but the numbers just don’t back it up.

  93. JustDieBaby says: Oct 12, 2010 12:31 PM

    Give the keys to Tarvaris Jackson??? That would be like giveing the keys to a real life Foster Brooks…..
    Florio I would call you a retard. But that would be an insult to retards…..
    Florio if you ever quit your day job. You have a future working for Al Davis….

  94. Manbearpig says: Oct 12, 2010 12:31 PM

    To all you Patriot homers/idiots – Yes, Percy Harvin> Wes Welker. Not even close.
    Faster, stronger, more athletic. With Moss over the top he will be unreal.

  95. BRUTUS9448 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:32 PM

    they just paid this guy 16 million to play this year. I doubt they’ll bench him.

  96. antalicus says: Oct 12, 2010 12:32 PM

    Keep playing Favre but sprinkle a little Joe Webb in there. I think he has a better chance of being a starting QB with this type of team.

  97. boltfan says: Oct 12, 2010 12:34 PM

    I completely agree that he was playing horribly yesterday, Childriss would have been right to pull him in the 3rd quarter, but he was able to rally the team back. I no Favre apologist, but he is still better the TJ. If that was the case why did the Vikings BEG Brett to come back? Brad Childress has no confidence in TJ, if he did he would have stuck his neck out for him and lobbied against bringing Favre in.

  98. Rev. Dr. HollywoodWags says: Oct 12, 2010 12:35 PM

    Shouldn’t Brent be suspended for his sexual harassment Grandma Florio?
    Why don’t you take a stand, dweeb…

  99. edgy1957 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:37 PM

    I think that what they DO need to do is to call Peterson’s number more and maybe Ziggy needs to sit down with Favre and let him know that he backs Childress when it comes to not audibling out of a run to a pass as much as he does. This isn’t like the Packers when he was saddled without a running game, this is like the Packers that had a great defense AND a hell of a running game that won a Super Bowl and went to another. The former got him to a bunch of AFC championships and no WINS and the latter, well, you know the rest of the story.

  100. shaggytoodle says: Oct 12, 2010 12:38 PM

    Favre STILL hasn’t done anything that T-Jack couldn’t this year. I have noticed that and asked about that after EVERY game this season. Bringing Favre in was a mistake, T-Jack was able to help the Vikings make the playoffs before Favre was there, you probably should have tried grooming him, because then you wouldn’t have to wait forever to find a replacement, missing on QBs for teams hurts them for a while, the Bills, the Phins, and Broncos had really tough stretches after the replacements for HoF Qbs didn’t pan out.

  101. Profanity in ALL CAPS says: Oct 12, 2010 12:38 PM

    Jackson can run. that is a huge element that the vikings need.
    BUT
    he gets hurt! he is the most injury prone QB the Vikings have relied on. He won’t last 3 games.

  102. Kevin Vandevoorde says: Oct 12, 2010 12:38 PM

    You’re my boy, Florio!
    Vikings fans, start the chant:
    “Tarvaris saves.”

  103. it's all bs says: Oct 12, 2010 12:39 PM

    why oh why do I keep coming here…this fairy tale is so pathetic I did not even laugh out loud!

  104. DopeBoys says: Oct 12, 2010 12:39 PM

    As much as any football fan would love to see Favre go out liek that, it isn’t going to happen. Childress doesn’t have the brass to pull a move off like that.

  105. Beast Of The East says: Oct 12, 2010 12:39 PM

    All of you have fallen into Florio’s web. The fact that anyone believes Tavaris Jackson is a better option than Favre, is simply ludicrous. Look at how many comments and clicks Florio gets by making his stories so utterly ridiculous that people just have to read and then comment on it.
    Look at the stuff that comes out of his mouth or should I say finger tips. This site used to be a great football site with some rumor mongering.
    Now it is strictly click driven. With that being said, stories that “stir the pot” generate clicks.
    This site although still the best football site on the web in my opinion, has become more of a “As The World Turns” soap opera or a TMZ type site than it is truly football. You have to siphon through the articles to find ones that are real football news, which are becoming less and less as time goes on.
    Although I still like the site, Florio has done what us bloggers that were with this site from the beginning never thought he would do. He sold out to the establishment. Yeah Florio is on NBC Football tonight but he is more treated like a side kick than an actual analyst.
    Congrats Florio on your financial success and your notoriety but I had believed from the beginning that you were in this for different reasons.
    Don’t get me wrong, I like a buck as much as the next guy, but at what cost or extreme do you go to for that buck?

  106. gdeli says: Oct 12, 2010 12:40 PM

    It’s live or die by Farve most likely.

  107. KaangMe says: Oct 12, 2010 12:40 PM

    I can’t understand the Favre apologists. The Vikes paid nearly $20m to go 1-3? TJack could give them the same record for a fraction of that. And there are more than a few ex-NFL QB’s that can come out of retirement and match that record for few hundred thou.
    Does anyone not cringe at the idea of Favre with the ball in a tight game/seconds ticking/one play away from glory? He is almost guaranteed to make a dumb play.
    Once again he had a chance to win and blew it. Its been this way for the last 4 years.
    And finally, here’s the real Favre test: Childress decides to give TJack a shot to save the season. Does BrINT step back and remain a positive influence to a much younger guy? Or does he quit during a tearful press conf. citing how he think he gives the team the best chance to win and that as a competitor he can sit idly by…..
    What would a real teammate do?

  108. clintcooper says: Oct 12, 2010 12:40 PM

    Why would you bench Favre now that he is actually showing signs of life? And do you really think he is thinking of the dirty text messages while he’s out there on the field? Please.

  109. In1Ear&OutYourMother says: Oct 12, 2010 12:40 PM

    Dewey Axewoond-
    I’m not sure what is worse, your pathetic attempts at coming up with “clever” ways to compare The Vikings with homosexuals, or the fact that you made a BARFLY reference. The fact that you watched AND remember a quote from that movie would suggest that you enjoy certain things in or around your mouth. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. I had to IMDb BARFLY, just to be sure that you weren’t talking about the Popular Gay-Bar in Minneapolis. We may be small-towners in MN but calling our team Bi-Queers isn’t offensive. A) We’re not in Jr High and B) we’re not all homophobic. Calling a straight person gay is about as offensive as calling a Black guy a mexican. We’re not all small minded d-bags like you. Now, get back to your Klan meeting. The Arian Nation can’t run itself

  110. CryBaby Favre says: Oct 12, 2010 12:41 PM

    Wow Florio, way to hit the Panick button. If Jackson was starting that game last night the Vikes dont score a td. You live by the Favre and you die by the Favre. He was the reason you were in the game and he was the reason you lost. End of story. But the vikes have no chance without him.

  111. Who is Mike Jones says: Oct 12, 2010 12:41 PM

    Here’s the deal with Favre!
    Favre had a H O F career and played like an iron man but like so many athletes, his ego can’t let go of the game. The lime light is addicting and when a player like Favre can’t let go when his body is worn out, the game will finish you off.
    Favre, you had your chance to go out on one of the best statistical years of your career and you didn’t. Now the game, football will retire you like it’s retired so many of your kind.

  112. Majik Bullet says: Oct 12, 2010 12:41 PM

    So Favre shows signs of life for the first time this season and plays his best game by far, and your idea is to put in T Jack because Favre threw a couple bad passes at the end of the game vs. the NFL’s best defense? Sound logic there Florio.
    I guess GB should bench Rodgers and start Flynn from here on out. I mean, Rodgers is banged up, and he couldn’t get it done with the game on the line, must be time to make a switch. Yes, if you’re wondering, that’s exactly how dumb benching Favre for Jax sounds.
    On another note, I see we have a Supersuckers sighting. He was nowhere to be found after the master of overtime choke jobs struck again, but somehow manages to make an appearance when Favre chokes. In case you missed it, the Packers’ ship is sinking just like we all said it would. And how in the world are all of those injuries piling up, what with the best offseason conditioning program ever, according to the gospel of Super?

  113. cheeseandwhinegotogether says: Oct 12, 2010 12:43 PM

    My god will you packer fans please stop with this jealous exgirlfriend stalking of Favre? Seriously it’s downright pathetic. You traipse every message board looking for your chance to bash him. Get over it already he’s gone and he’s not coming back. Leave the Vikings fans alone and let them enjoy the ride. It’s obviously not going too well so let that do your talking for you. And to both sides of this homophobic rivalry; saying fudge packers and cryqueens/biqueens on every single post doesn’t make you witty. It makes you seem like idiots.

  114. ispysomething7 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:46 PM

    I couldn’t agree with you more Florio!

  115. Richm2257 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:46 PM

    THIS is the douche they’re paying 20 mil for????
    THIS is the guy they had to send 3 players to Miss. and beg him to come back and take all that money????
    The Vikes could have gone 1-3 with a no-name quarteback from the Dollar Store.
    Or Tavares Jackson.
    The Vikes are stuck with a washed out, interception throwing, over paid has-been that they begged to come back. And he’s once again building an excuse for sucking, just like he’s done before.
    I think the Vikes should keep him in until he collapses on the field; why deprive the rest of us the pleasure of knowing that Vikes fans are having to watch their hero stink the joint out?

  116. Legarrette Blount says: Oct 12, 2010 12:47 PM

    I’m going to assume Tarvaris Jackson hacked into this website to post that. Otherwise that’s the dumbest analysis/opinion I’ve seen in a long time.

  117. NoRingsForYou says: Oct 12, 2010 12:47 PM

    How dare you talk about Him that way! Look what you’ve done to the Favre apologists and poor hapless Vikings fans. You’ve insulted their God.

  118. Keino says: Oct 12, 2010 12:48 PM

    Wow, what a woefully misinformed post. Maybe Childress should commit to the running game a little bit. I think that’s the answer….

  119. Southwest Pats says: Oct 12, 2010 12:48 PM

    He needs to get off the field, and back in bed with Jen Sterger….damn she’s hot

  120. Doctor Doom says: Oct 12, 2010 12:48 PM

    Seriously. Turn to tavaris Jackson?
    Tavaris Jackson one year threw 9 TDs….which is 9 TDs more than Janet Jackson.

  121. Simon12345 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:49 PM

    eh, throwing dirt on the old man too soon. He’s still better than Jackson.
    Look, the NFC is kind of average this year. While 1-3 is a hole, I don’t think it’s insurmountable this year, particularly with Green Bay ailing as they are.
    Stay the course at least against Dallas and then see where you are. If a Rodgers-less Packers team stumbles again and Vikings beat a struggling Cowboys team, the whole world will look different…

  122. moswesley says: Oct 12, 2010 12:52 PM

    I’m a huge fan Florio, but you’re reaching on this one!
    If you want to put more emphasis on the off-field problems – with the scandal as the reason why Favre is not performing at the level he should be – then come out and say it!
    Tarvaris is a game manager.
    You’re merely suggesting the Vikings should give up on any chance of a playoff run, and layup for a 9-7 record and maybe a wild card game.

  123. Supersuckers2 says: Oct 12, 2010 12:55 PM

    ” In case you missed it, the Packers’ ship is sinking just like we all said it would. And how in the world are all of those injuries piling up, what with the best offseason conditioning program ever, according to the gospel of Super?”
    ——
    Sinking? hardly. 3-2 with two bad teams at home = 5-2. Also Arod led them down the field with a minute left and the kick hit the upright. maybe he should have kicced the field goal himself….i dont know. he’s a helluva punter according to you idiots.

  124. tango says: Oct 12, 2010 12:55 PM

    BF is still a very good QB but he generates to much attention on to himself and it becomes a circus and takes away from the team concept. BF relishes the attention and the Vikings management and coaches embarrased themselves in their efforts to sign him. Childress is a joke of a coach which compounds the issue.

  125. mborz says: Oct 12, 2010 12:59 PM

    This is just another example of journalistic extremism.
    Had Favre completed that pass to Harvin on the last drive where the field was wide open in front of him, the Vikings would have likely won and everyone would have been saying how Favre’s still a hero, great comeback, he’s still got it, etc.
    Instead, now he needs benched and is washed up.
    A complete 180.
    The truth, as usual, is somewhere in between.
    But, the truth has no place in a world where sensationalism rules.

  126. cbrianwatkins says: Oct 12, 2010 1:01 PM

    Favre’s pre-season ended last week, the first game of his season was last night, and he barely lost in the rain, against the best defense in the league
    not to mention he just aquired a new WR, who he connected with for a TD
    i dont think they’re going to run the table, but i’d expect something pretty damn close

  127. Diesel1911 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:01 PM

    People forget the the Vikings won the division with T.Jack at QB the year before Favre arrived. With Favre…the Vikings have paid upwards of 30 million dollars for one more win in 2009. Now look where you are.
    Give T.Jack the rock and let him bond with Moss, Harvin, and Rice. Play defense and let Ad run…and the Vikings are a legitimate superbowl contender.
    Favre can’t allude pressure, he’s slow, and he still gambles too much.
    Pull the plug on the old geezer and get on with winning football games.

  128. Hovenaut says: Oct 12, 2010 1:02 PM

    Makes you laugh at the Herschel Walker deal.
    Anybody care to speculate whether or Bret’s coming back next year?

  129. Mrsteve says: Oct 12, 2010 1:03 PM

    So you are saying have Farve start & play TJACK the rest of the game if the first series fails the next 11 games?

  130. Ruvell200 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:07 PM

    I always wondered why the Vikings kicked T-Jack to the curb. They were 10-6 in 08, and he played well down the stretch. Poorly in the playoff game, but hell, he was 23 then.
    I wonder if it could be that the Wilf’s just don’t have time to try to groom and build a championship team from within. The reason, of course, being that the fanbase in Minnesota is so unbelievably pathetic they would never get a stadium deal done, even it meant they were better built for the long haul.

  131. Prufrock says: Oct 12, 2010 1:08 PM

    I have far less optimism about T-Jack’s potential than you do, and I think many of the commenters above echo that sentiment.
    I also find your timing curious; yes, Favre threw an interception last night, and yes, it did come at an inopportune time.
    However, that’s what blitzing defenses do; they force quarterbacks to rush throws, to misread coverages, and to throw interceptions.
    It’s also of note that on the opposite side of the ledger, Favre threw three touchdown passes against the Jets defense. Through the first four games of this season and the ENTIRETY of the 2009 regular season, no other quarterback was able to do that (some guy accomplished the feat in the AFC Championship Game).
    Favre may be due for a benching at some point this season if the Vikings continue to lose and feel a need to explore options for the future. But doing it “now” as you suggest would be throwing in the towel with a QB with limited upside waaayyyy too early.

  132. bruce campbells chainsaw hand says: Oct 12, 2010 1:17 PM

    Majik Bullet -
    The master of overtime choke jobs? That statement alone makes you completely inept. The master of choke jobs, overtime or in regulation, is your boy Favre. And its an undisputed title, since he’s been doing it for years. Rodgers has done it, what, a couple of times? Yeah, you’re an idiot.

  133. Rafterman says: Oct 12, 2010 1:17 PM

    Favre has been done for awhile, just catching on Florio?
    I have a strong feeling God dell is going to take the decision out of the Vikings hands.

  134. aceking4u says: Oct 12, 2010 1:18 PM

    In Week 5…
    1. Didn’t Aaron Rodgers throw a similar interception in overtime like Favre?
    2. Drew Brees throwing 2 Int (one returned for a TD and one on the 1 yd line)? 3 for the game
    3. Peyton Manning throwing more INT than TD at home against the CHIEFS?
    4. Drew Brees fumble 6 to seal the game (2 sack fumble for the day)?
    I think people are overreacting to a “decent” game by Favre on the road.
    They played the Saints, Dolphins, and the Jets. All very good team with good defenses. Throwing 3TDS against the Jets at their home is no simple task. Do you think T Jackson could have made those throws?

  135. RexRyan'sStressedLapband says: Oct 12, 2010 1:19 PM

    I said in August that Favre would be out of the league by week 5. I was close. It’s looking like a week 6 or 7 kinda thang.

  136. Leone510 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:20 PM

    “Moss clearing out the underneath areas”
    Am I missing something? Wasn’t he single covered all game? Clearing out what? People still think he’s Moss from 1998.

  137. i'm president charlie! says: Oct 12, 2010 1:21 PM

    But, but, but Favre is like a kid out there (que ESPN playing Favre highlights on an endless reel)….minus all of the costly interceptions of course

  138. somesome says: Oct 12, 2010 1:22 PM

    No matter what QB is under center, it will change Childress’ horrendous game planing.
    You are never more than a TD behind the Saints and AP has no 20 touches nor 100 yards?????
    Last night against the JETS, it rains like a sh!t storm and AP had like 9 touches for 36 yards in the later half of the third quater …… passes slipping and sliding through hands, balls fumbled left and right and 9 rushes?????

  139. Philtration says: Oct 12, 2010 1:22 PM

    50 years in the league… 4 trips to the Super Bowl all ending in defeat… dump your classic uniforms to go gang-banger sheik… bring in a WR with a shitty attitude who is on the down side of his career out of pure desperation… depressing city with 9 months of winter that wants to be taken seriously but is not…
    Yep.
    The Vikings are now officially the NFC version of the Buffalo Bills.
    I would start keeping an eye on Adrian Peterson somewhere around the year 2032.

  140. CaCheesehead says: Oct 12, 2010 1:22 PM

    You are all missing the point. Chilly is a moron. Favre leads this team. He will do as he wishes.
    The poor play you saw last night was related to ankle and elbow injuries and distractions from the whole sexting thing. His elbow will not get better, it will get worse. He was clutching it after every throw in the 4th quarter.
    Why did Chilly have him heave that 50 yarder with .02 seconds left down by 9? What good would a TD have done at that point? Instead, his gimpy, rag armed QB put additional, unnecessary strain on his elbow. Chilly should have ordered a kneel down, not a bomb.
    Good luck with your rapidly deteriorating 2010 season viking fans. Look forward to a worse 2011 when you are another year older, less draft picks and without a QB.
    GO PACK GO!!!!!

  141. HighwayKiller says: Oct 12, 2010 1:23 PM

    I say let him play for the vikes until he is taking snaps from his Rascal scooter. This keeps getting better every week! Maybe in ten or fifteen years when Brett does retire Chilly can send some players to see if Joe Namath wants to make a comeback. Hey, you never know, they might be a sb champion in Janurary instead of August.

  142. steeltiger34 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:24 PM

    The battle for the NFC basement will take place in Minn this weekend. Cowgirls and Vikes are in disarray!

  143. Leone510 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:24 PM

    “In 1998, when Randy Moss was a rookie, it generally was believed that any quarterback with the arm to throw a deep ball could be a star with Moss running running under the rainbow passes and somehow coming up with the catch.”
    It’s not 1998 now is it? Moss doesn’t win jump balls any more. I’m suprised he even tried a few last night. Usually he just stands there and lets them get picked.

  144. skins828791 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:24 PM

    this is just stupid…. other then the pick at the end of the game im starting to think you didnt watch the game just watched the stats on nfl.com or espn or where ever….. this is dumb just simply a dumb post….. im not a vikings fan and dont care either way but just dumb this is….

  145. Mosi says: Oct 12, 2010 1:26 PM

    This is so stupid, that it can only be a ploy for hits / comments. Take out Favre for T-Jack. Yeah, great idea.
    2010 Vikings will sink or swim with Favre. They won’t take him out until / unless he’s getting boo’ed off the field, or 20 million people stop watching every one of his games.

  146. snnyjcbs says: Oct 12, 2010 1:27 PM

    Do you really think so? 3 Touch Down Passes in the second half all the while being knocked around like a Pinball with little if no protection from his O Line.
    I think you being replaced would be a better deal, bring in a writer that knows how to write and has earned a living at it.

  147. QinCT says: Oct 12, 2010 1:27 PM

    @Ron
    ” But I just wonder if Jackson could make those tough throws over the middle in crucial times in games. ”
    Problem is Favre can’t make those tough throws over the middle in crucial games.
    Pick 6 last night, pick in NFCC last year, with the Packers in playoffs against Philly, Pick ANY of the Jets games he started (especially the last 7).

  148. paul210 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:28 PM

    did you even watch last nights game? ben franklin was right, some people sould keep there mouth shut and let others think there an idiot rather than open there mouth and let people know there an idiot!

  149. Dolfan34 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:28 PM

    Florio,
    I have NO idea what game you were watching last night but I thought Favre’s effort was very heroic in the rain, with his tendinitis and against a very good Jets defence. Do you really think TJack would have got the same results? What exactly has convinced you that he would be a better option than Favre right now? It’s quite possible that the tendinitis won’t allow Favre to make it through the season but that should be his choice.

  150. Saints-America'sTeam says: Oct 12, 2010 1:35 PM

    Hey, Jeff Garcia is out there playing UFL football for the Nighthawks. He’s 40 years old too, but he’s MUCH BETTER than Farve! Check him out…really.

  151. Majik Bullet says: Oct 12, 2010 1:38 PM

    Supersuckers2 says: October 12, 2010 12:55 PM
    Sinking? hardly. 3-2 with two bad teams at home = 5-2. Also Arod led them down the field with a minute left and the kick hit the upright. maybe he should have kicced the field goal himself….i dont know. he’s a helluva punter according to you idiots.
    _______________
    No, we’ve said all along that Rodgers is a terrible punter. The only thing he’s actually worse at is clutch play. Yeah, he led them down for a 53 yard attempt, including a bonehead play where he didn’t go out of bounds on a scramble, then wasted 5 seconds before calling timeout. Horrible clock management. But it’s funny how you make excuses for Aaron, yet again, but always manage to pin every Favre loss entirely on him. Strange.
    And keep telling yourself the Vikes are bad. They went into NY and played the down to the wire. A Viking performance like that against the hapless Packers, and the Vikes win by double digits. Oh wait, the Pack beat mighty Detroit at home by 2, so yeah, Minny and Miami are guarantees, right genius?
    1-2 in their last 3, and the one win only came because Woodson got away with another mugging on a key 3rd down, but the refs are now watching him and actually throwing flags. Horribly inconsistent offense and a defense that can be shredded at will, i.e. Shaun Hill. Not to mention all the injuries, which is incredibly surprising due to the top of the line offseason conditioning program in GB. Sinking deeper and deeper, deeper and deeper.

  152. Pervy xx says: Oct 12, 2010 1:40 PM

    3 TD’S = Benching….LMAO
    Florio, would you like me to come down South and clue you in on football? The O line, lack of Jared Allen pressure and no Def. turnovers is our problem….That offense is going to get scary good if Favre’s arm holds up,then add Rice? Awesome..

  153. Someone says: Oct 12, 2010 1:42 PM

    Yeah, the vikingsa should just put Webb in while their at it. This website is becoming a joke. I mean Favre threw 3td’s and almost got the win. Yeah, the turnovers were awful, but taking Favre out? Idiot move.

  154. Art Van Delay's brother says: Oct 12, 2010 1:42 PM

    If the Vikes bench Favre he’ll retire in a heart beat. I think he came back to add his career passing yds and tds to put them out of reach from Peyton Manning.
    The only thing he’s sweating is divorce if the sexting continues to grow.

  155. QinCT says: Oct 12, 2010 1:47 PM

    cbrianwatkins says:
    October 12, 2010 1:01 PM
    Favre’s pre-season ended last week, the first game of his season was last night,
    Yeah, too bad everyone else’s pre-season ended 6 WEEKS AGO, they are ALL playing for real NOW… Are You stupid or what????

  156. Pale face says: Oct 12, 2010 1:48 PM

    Since when is Harvin better than Welker. when was the last time Harvin caught over 120 passes in a year?

  157. RUGGERLAD says: Oct 12, 2010 1:50 PM

    1 I agree T Jacks is underrated and should never have been benched for Gus as his #’s were more than respectable. 2 Favre had a pretty good game vs the top D in the NFL, and I don’t think T Jacks would have put up those #’s. 3 Why didn’t the Vikes run the ball more? 18 carries for the best back in the league with a 41yr old gun slinger and an o-line that is much better at run-blocking. Miami did the same vs the Jets and it annoyed me. The Jets, Phins and Vikes must stick to the run 1st. One of these three teams has and they are doing the best of these 3 power run teams!!

  158. RagnarTheBloodAxe says: Oct 12, 2010 1:51 PM

    At first I thought this was an April Fools joke. Then I realized it’s October.

  159. tamer says: Oct 12, 2010 1:54 PM

    Florio,after reading this dumb this article I am pretty sure that you don’t know anything about football. Man oh man I can’t believe you’re getting payed on something you have no idea about. Some people are extremely lucky in life.
    Putting T-jax out there would be utter stupidity and even Chilly wouldn’t do that. Please Florio take a break from writing and go to a vacation or something.
    Rosenthal is much better than you. Let him write more often.

  160. NyJetsTaketheEastin 2010 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:55 PM

    Even with the Old man not being able to play at a high level anymore ,that team is still dangerous , that Defense is F”n good , and A.P. is great ,there going to hang around ,the NFC is loaded with mediocrity as it is,the Vikings I feel will in the playoffs come end of year..

  161. Supersuckers2 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:57 PM

    “Sinking deeper and deeper, deeper and deeper.

    —————
    3-2 about to be 5-2 then we get healthy and end up 13-3 or 12-4. Guaranteed.

  162. shaggytoodle says: Oct 12, 2010 1:58 PM

    aceking4u says:
    October 12, 2010 1:18 PM
    In Week 5…
    1. Didn’t Aaron Rodgers throw a similar interception in overtime like Favre?
    2. Drew Brees throwing 2 Int (one returned for a TD and one on the 1 yd line)? 3 for the game
    3. Peyton Manning throwing more INT than TD at home against the CHIEFS?
    4. Drew Brees fumble 6 to seal the game (2 sack fumble for the day)?
    I think people are overreacting to a “decent” game by Favre on the road.
    They played the Saints, Dolphins, and the Jets. All very good team with good defenses. Throwing 3TDS against the Jets at their home is no simple task. Do you think T Jackson could have made those throws?
    _________________________________
    I think people are looking at the WHOLE season, the reason you send 3 players to go get him in Miss. is for him to help you WIN games. He has 10 turnovers, and the only team the Vikings beat was a team that has won 3 games since 2008. I think T-Jack would have hit the wide open Harvin 10 yards in front of him, because he was thier in camp. Right now Favre is doing more harm than good.

  163. BBWC1969 says: Oct 12, 2010 1:59 PM

    How quick some people are to throw Favre under the bus. Haven’t seen this scenario before have we…or have we??? I agree it’s time for Minnesota to start looking towards the future and the permanent fix (believe me Tarvaris Jackson isn’t it…but if you guys want to keep him by all means please do) but Favre is the QB who gives this team the best chance to win right now. The record may not reflect it but I think the Vikings still have a lot of football left in them.

  164. Jack Acid says: Oct 12, 2010 1:59 PM

    I love it. All you Vikes fan parading around last year rubbing everyone’s nose in it, saying you’re the team to beat etc. All happy as schoolgirls when precious Favre was picked up an hour before the preseason started.
    What goes around comes around. I said Favre and the Vikes wouldn’t repeat their success from last year and despite that statement hardly being a bold prediction, I was still ridiculed by you delusional lunatics for it.
    Have fun looking for a QB next April as your window of opportunity gets even smaller.

  165. Gotcha says: Oct 12, 2010 2:01 PM

    Just increase his pass attempts. He’ll get himself and the Viking’s offense off the field.

  166. 8man says: Oct 12, 2010 2:02 PM

    This is nuts. For what you are paying him and have done to make this year the year, you have to ride it out.
    As long as Favre can walk and see, he’s the man and it ends however it ends.

  167. Diesel1911 says: Oct 12, 2010 2:02 PM

    Farve apologists will never concede that you just can’t win with Favre. He keeps both teams in the game.
    Farve and Trent Dilfer have the same amount of Superbowl rings…and that’s only because Desmond Howard went bananas in the Superbowl won by the Packers.
    Get off of Favre’s jock and see reality. Its time for a change.

  168. Dewey Axewoond says: Oct 12, 2010 2:11 PM

    In1Ear&OutYourMother says:
    October 12, 2010 12:40 PM
    Dewey Axewoond-
    I’m not sure what is worse, your pathetic attempts at coming up with “clever” ways to compare The Vikings with homosexuals, or the fact that you made a BARFLY reference. The fact that you watched AND remember a quote from that movie would suggest that you enjoy certain things in or around your mouth. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. I had to IMDb BARFLY, just to be sure that you weren’t talking about the Popular Gay-Bar in Minneapolis. We may be small-towners in MN but calling our team Bi-Queers isn’t offensive. A) We’re not in Jr High and B) we’re not all homophobic. Calling a straight person gay is about as offensive as calling a Black guy a mexican. We’re not all small minded d-bags like you. Now, get back to your Klan meeting. The Arian Nation can’t run itself
    __________________________________
    The “Arian” nation? You mean Foster fans?
    Or, as I think I’ve somehow managed to deduce through that fog of angry, illiterate sputtering, were you trying to call me an ARYAN?
    (Since you’re taking the time to look stuff up, check out the difference between the two, Mongo).
    If, by your standard, all it takes to be a full-blown Aryan is to make a few gay innuendo jokes, then welcome to the meat-club, sweetheart.
    Funny, you say I’m such a un-PC monster for BiQueer-bashing, but then you turn right around and say I enjoy things in and around my mouth.
    It’s true, I do:
    Steak, fried chicken, the open end of cold beers, pizza, your mom’s nipples, fried shrimp, your sister’s earlobes, bubblegum.
    Look, Barfly is an awesome movie–sorry you lack the taste or culture required to appreciate it, but at least you judged it harshly based on some 3 line internet review (I bet you take Florio’s pieces as gospel, too).
    But look–de gustibus non disputem est (in matters of taste, you cannot argue), okay?
    (except when that “taste” involves being an overreactive fanboy for the purple helmet polishing Purple Fairies of the North–then you’re just a delusional, rubber-wristed DNA-gargler)
    Barfly, the movie:
    Mickey Rourke
    Faye Dunaway
    Frank Stallone
    Screenplay by Charles Bukowski
    As any (heterosexual) man knows–ANY movie with Mickey Rourke is bad-as$. Period.

  169. Suspectbill says: Oct 12, 2010 2:17 PM

    T-Jak has started games before but was never a performer. The last time he got any quality games was in 2007 when on Dec 2, against Detroit he threw one of his “best” games.
    He went 18 for 24 204yards and 2 TDs plus 1 INT. That was his first multiple passing TD game that year. His next came Dec 30th against Denver were he threw 2 TDs and 3INTs. He finished that season as a 12 game starter with 9TD passes and 12INTs. He rushed for 3TDs.
    If you think he scores from the ground often, think again. In 19 starts he rushed for only 4TDs. So the other best game was Dec 14, 2008 against Arizona. He did earn NFC Offensive Player of the Week award for 4-TD performance but accompanied the TDs with 3INTs.

  170. goboys82 says: Oct 12, 2010 2:17 PM

    You people blaming the rain on his horrible performance last night are funny. Did you watch the game??? Do you not understand that while he was fumbling it and not finding any way to complete a pass, there was no rain (first half)? Once the Jets D slowed down a bit, yeah, he threw a couple TD passes, then pulled his signature “throw a INT to lose the game” move… do you people even WATCH football, or just come on here to try to talk crap about Florio? (who, by the way, gets PAID to give his football opinion, unlike all of you)

  171. Chuck Jones says: Oct 12, 2010 2:24 PM

    The Vikings should have cut Favre and spent whatever it took to get McNabb… they are fools for falling for his drama!

  172. owen13 says: Oct 12, 2010 2:25 PM

    ” Percy Harvin already has become a faster, more explosive version of Wes Welker with Moss clearing out the underneath areas.”
    ?
    Welker runs routes, Harvin just runs.
    The Vikes know that if they live by the Favre they have to die by the Favre. If he’s legitimately hurt too much then obviously pull him whether he likes it or not. The Vikes have a lot of issues right now, not just Favre.

  173. monet99 says: Oct 12, 2010 2:27 PM

    If not for Favre they would not have been in the game. Are you freaking kidding?

  174. Majik Bullet says: Oct 12, 2010 2:28 PM

    # bruce campbells chainsaw hand says: October 12, 2010 1:17 PM
    Majik Bullet -
    The master of overtime choke jobs? That statement alone makes you completely inept. The master of choke jobs, overtime or in regulation, is your boy Favre. And its an undisputed title, since he’s been doing it for years. Rodgers has done it, what, a couple of times? Yeah, you’re an idiot.
    __________________
    Yes, the master of overtime choke jobs. Rodgers has never won an overtime game. Never, he’s 0-4, with 2 game icing turnovers.
    Call Favre a choker all you want, but when has Rodgers ever led a team back for a win? Favre’s done it about 45 times. While Favre has undeniably choked more times than Rodgers, Rodgers definitely chokes more frequently. That’s why Rodgers is the master.

  175. mango says: Oct 12, 2010 2:34 PM

    Benching Favre is not possible. Not after the entire organization lost any shred of respect when the kissed his butt to get him there. Only Favre can bench Favre.

  176. That's Mr Rodgers to you says: Oct 12, 2010 2:35 PM

    What are you crazy?
    This is Brett Favre!
    He has earned the right to destroy the Vikes organization!
    We will never forget you Brent!
    Packers Nation!
    bwahahaha

  177. Majik Bullet says: Oct 12, 2010 2:38 PM

    # Supersuckers2 says: October 12, 2010 1:57 PM
    3-2 about to be 5-2 then we get healthy and end up 13-3 or 12-4. Guaranteed.
    ________________
    Is that kind of like your guarantee that they would win their Wild Card game last year, or when you guaranteed the Lions would beat the Vikings?
    The Packers have looked terrible the last 3 weeks, and now the schedule stiffens while the injuries mount. The Packers win no more than 8 games this year, guaranteed.

  178. Steve W. says: Oct 12, 2010 2:38 PM

    Yes, we all saw the game ending pick six. Not like we’ve never seen it before. Before that, however, we saw the first TD drive, in which he converted how many 3rd and longs that he was put in because of bad penalties? Oh, and he ended that drive when he converted another 3rd and long with a beautiful rainbow pass that dropped right into Moss’ hands for a TD. Then there was the next TD drive, when he threw Harvin open to beat Revis for another TD. Two drives later, yet another impressive TD pass to Harvin (the second TD was probably a little more impressive on Harvin’s part, but still a beautiful pass by Favre considering the coverage). Oh, and this was against the Jets defense in horrible weather and with an elbow that was obviously hurting pretty badly. In fact, if you’re going to bench Favre after that game, it should be because you think the elbow is getting worse, not because of how he’s playing. The defense kept the Vikings in that game, but Favre put them in a position to win it. There is no QB on their roster (and not all that many in the league) that could have made some of the plays Favre made against the Jets defense. I’m not even a Vikings or Favre fan, and I can see how ridiculous this post is.
    Btw, I love how you say you’re going to class up the place by checking the posts better and banning the worst offenders, and then you post story after story like this one designed solely to bring out the haters and the attacks. I get why you do it. More clicks equals more money. I believe they have a name for people who do dirty things for money…lawyer.

  179. In & Out Burger says: Oct 12, 2010 2:39 PM

    @Dewey Axewoond
    Making homophobic jokes, and then defending yourself, really makes you look like the douche in that argument. Just thought I would let you know.

  180. Steve W. says: Oct 12, 2010 2:40 PM

    # jaxdolfan says: October 12, 2010 11:57 AM
    From here forward, the verb “Farved” should be used whenever a QB throws a game ending interception.
    ___________________________
    Well, if Aaron keeps things up, he can replace Favre in this too. You could call it getting Rodgered…take that however you want to as it works both ways.

  181. CYGNUS X-1 says: Oct 12, 2010 2:40 PM

    florio how do you expect people to take anything you say seriously?you were the leader of the t jacks sucks bandwagon before they got favre and now you want him to start over lord favre?you and the rest of the media made favre a saint who could do no wrong and who was the missing link that would give the viqueens the superbowl trophy,now that things aren’t going as planned he should be replaced?no he should finish out the season no matter what happens and that will be his legacy like it or not.I don’t want to hear excuses injury or otherwise,he and the offense are playing badly to bad!it may be sad for favre lovers to watch but I love it! he and the viqueens wanted all the attention and deserve everything that happens to them.

  182. Shut up FOOL says: Oct 12, 2010 2:42 PM

    Yes, Harvin is faster AND more explosive than Welker. Harvin’s faster, better put together and much more athletic. Welker is a AWESOME receiver and ANY team would be lucky to have him but u are comparing him to the WRONG guy.
    Bears are clowns, Packers LOSE to Washington and are all banged up….ughh. Vikings would screw up a wet dream. Lions….well they’re the Lions. Who wants to win the NFC Central?

  183. HankScorpio says: Oct 12, 2010 2:42 PM

    The way Favre was machine gunning the field with throws that were too high, too low, wide left and wide right was as an impressive job of spreading the ball around as I have seen since he broke his thumb in 1999.

  184. j-wil says: Oct 12, 2010 2:45 PM

    for all of you delusinal favre lovers out there, look at the facts-
    he is at the bottom of the league in rating
    he is throwing pics
    he is missing throws, badly………..
    he is in pain and cannot control throws
    he is an emotional player and outside factors will weigh on this guy in the game
    this is nothing like when his dad died
    he surely has an upset family situation, and it’s his fault………
    one spectacular play does not undo several bad ones
    finally, he wears down even more at the end of the year

  185. Steve W. says: Oct 12, 2010 2:50 PM

    # alewatcher says: October 12, 2010 12:11 PM
    Favre has been playing for no other reason than to pad his stats for the last three seasons. Any other QB that was playing this badly would have already been benched, but because it’s Lord Favre, he stays in the game. God forbid The Streak should be broken.
    Even worse, when Favre finally does retire for good, the Vikings have no proven replacement at QB. TJack has been a man about the situation, much to his credit. I think the only the Vikings get Favre off the field is to put him on IR.
    ____________________________________
    Are you high, or simply blinded by your own homerism? In those 3 “stat padding” years you talk about, he took 2 separate teams to the NFC championship game, and while he lost both, he at least took his team to overtime against the eventual SB winner. The other year, he had the Jets (before they suped up their defense) dominating the AFC East until he suffered an injury to his throwing arm. Yeah, no desire to really play there. You really need to get beyond your own bias and learn to talk intelligent football.

  186. DSC says: Oct 12, 2010 2:52 PM

    #
    # Majik Bullet says: October 12, 2010 1:38 PM
    Supersuckers2 says: October 12, 2010 12:55 PM
    Sinking? hardly. 3-2 with two bad teams at home = 5-2. Also Arod led them down the field with a minute left and the kick hit the upright. maybe he should have kicced the field goal himself….i dont know. he’s a helluva punter according to you idiots.
    _______________
    No, we’ve said all along that Rodgers is a terrible punter. The only thing he’s actually worse at is clutch play. Yeah, he led them down for a 53 yard attempt, including a bonehead play where he didn’t go out of bounds on a scramble, then wasted 5 seconds before calling timeout. Horrible clock management. But it’s funny how you make excuses for Aaron, yet again, but always manage to pin every Favre loss entirely on him. Strange.
    And keep telling yourself the Vikes are bad. They went into NY and played the down to the wire. A Viking performance like that against the hapless Packers, and the Vikes win by double digits. Oh wait, the Pack beat mighty Detroit at home by 2, so yeah, Minny and Miami are guarantees, right genius?
    1-2 in their last 3, and the one win only came because Woodson got away with another mugging on a key 3rd down, but the refs are now watching him and actually throwing flags. Horribly inconsistent offense and a defense that can be shredded at will, i.e. Shaun Hill. Not to mention all the injuries, which is incredibly surprising due to the top of the line offseason conditioning program in GB. Sinking deeper and deeper, deeper and deeper.
    ____________
    Don’t you ever get sick of defending Favre? Talk about man crush.
    You know Rodgers is better or else you wouldn’t rip Rodgers every time to try to defend Favre. Pathetic.

  187. Bryan8900 says: Oct 12, 2010 2:54 PM

    Brett Favre throws 3 TDs and 1 Int, keeping the Vikings in the game till the very end….and he needs “to go”. Obviously this is no longer about Favres playing ability…but rather a hatchet job by a group of people who really just don’t like the guy. If your going to try to wrap your crap sports journalism in legitimacy, try picking a game when say he throws 1 TD and 3 picks..like a certain Saints quarterback, but we wouldn’t want to touch that sacred cow would we.

  188. Tjackfan says: Oct 12, 2010 2:55 PM

    A big part of the problem lies in the fact that the Vikings’ pass rush didn’t get to Sanchez enough to turn him into a “Dirty Sanchez”.

  189. Majik Bullet says: Oct 12, 2010 2:55 PM

    Just caught this on S.C. talking about the Packers’ 4th quarter ineptitude.
    2 TD’s
    1 Missed FG (53 yards)
    8 Punts
    3 INT’s
    1 Fumble
    Outscored 42-14
    Yeah, Rodgers is the master of clutch time performance, right homers?

  190. Steve W. says: Oct 12, 2010 2:56 PM

    # jimmySee says: October 12, 2010 12:13 PM
    “Iron Man” Lou Gehrig took himself out of the game when it was time.
    _________________________________
    Yeah, when he was dying of Lou Gehrig’s disease. What an amazingly foolish comment you made.

  191. Lucky5927 says: Oct 12, 2010 2:57 PM

    Umm, with a certified number one WR, Favre’s passing rating was a respectable 85% with a 3-1 touchdown to int. ratio. And that was with him getting the crapped knocked out of him thanks to miss blocks in the entire first half. If you want a qb to run for 65 yards, TJ is your man. I you want to give yourself a chance to win a tough game, go with Favre.
    Also, seems odd that the Vikings have to play at the top two teams from the AFC East. Seem it should be split with either the Jets or Patriots at home, and the other visiting the Vikings.

  192. shaggytoodle says: Oct 12, 2010 2:58 PM

    Well Minnesota maybe you could make a trade for a QB quick before the deadline hits, maybe David Garrard or Kevin Kolb? You guys should make a move though.

  193. CYGNUS X-1 says: Oct 12, 2010 2:59 PM

    florio how do you expect people to take anything you say seriously?you were the leader of the t jacks sucks bandwagon before they got favre and now you want him to start over lord favre?you and the rest of the media made favre a saint who could do no wrong and who was the missing link that would give the viqueens the superbowl trophy,now that things aren’t going as planned he should be replaced?no he should finish out the season no matter what happens and that will be his legacy like it or not.I don’t want to hear excuses injury or otherwise,he and the offense are playing badly to bad!it may be sad for favre lovers to watch but I love it! he and the viqueens wanted all the attention and deserve everything that happens to them.

  194. Busqaller says: Oct 12, 2010 3:01 PM

    Huge Packer fan here!
    I got to say that the packers season is done.
    It was great to see Favre get the milestones but is was even sweeter to see him fail again.
    Also – chilly can’t bench Favre becuase he is not the head coach.
    I think it is time for new management at the Packers.

  195. Steve W. says: Oct 12, 2010 3:02 PM

    # goboys82 says: October 12, 2010 2:17 PM
    You people blaming the rain on his horrible performance last night are funny. Did you watch the game??? Do you not understand that while he was fumbling it and not finding any way to complete a pass, there was no rain (first half)? Once the Jets D slowed down a bit, yeah, he threw a couple TD passes, then pulled his signature “throw a INT to lose the game” move… do you people even WATCH football, or just come on here to try to talk crap about Florio? (who, by the way, gets PAID to give his football opinion, unlike all of you)
    ______________________________
    That’s funny, because after reading your comment, I was wondering if you had actually watched the game. First of all, it was 3 TD passes, not 2. Secondly, the Jets defense didn’t slow down. They kept blitzing and getting pressure on the QB. The Vikings O-line kept getting dumb penalties and putting themselves in a bad situation. Despite that, Favre converted quite a few 3rd and long passes to keep drives going and score TDs. The TD to Moss was perfectly placed, and the first TD to Harvin threw him open when Revis was covering him. As for why we’re talking crap about Florio, it’s simple. In this case his paid opinion is simply ridiculous. More likely than not, even Florio doesn’t believe Tavaris is a better option than Favre. It’s pretty clear that this post was meant to start a flurry of clicks and comments (a successful attempt too). So, while his “opinion” in this post is ludicrous, the real reason he posted it is quite smart.

  196. Ruvell200 says: Oct 12, 2010 3:13 PM

    Majik, I was only partially joking before, but can you come clean with your fellow PFTers please?
    Are you Bonita Favre?

  197. Dewey Axewoond says: Oct 12, 2010 3:17 PM

    In & Out Burger says:
    October 12, 2010 2:39 PM
    @Dewey Axewoond
    Making homophobic jokes, and then defending yourself, really makes you look like the douche in that argument. Just thought I would let you know.
    _____________________________
    Calling people or their jokes “homophobic” and then jumping into an exchange that has absolutely nothing to do with you really makes you look like a nosy, self-righteous, needy, attention-seeking, politically-correct finger-wagging liberal pus$y jackass.
    Just thought I would let you know.

  198. Hauschild says: Oct 12, 2010 3:18 PM

    You people outta be ashamed of yourselves for wanting to burn Brett at the stake. This is a massive witch hunt with no witch. What’s with you people nowadays? The “dumbing down” has been a huge success for the Progressives, much to my chagrin.
    It’s classic delusion at its worst: Had Minnesota won, Brett would have been a hero, and you all would have either been all up in his junk, or creating envy-posts. Brett Favre played well enough to beat one of the better teams in the league, and at the end of the day, that’s all you’ve got to ask yourself. Can the man still pack ‘em in and win games?
    If all you want to attract and retain at this sites are dolts and stooges, then continue fabricating stories that contain a ginned-up premise.

  199. Shut up FOOL says: Oct 12, 2010 3:19 PM

    Majik,
    You know your FACTS thanks for posting!

  200. Ruvell200 says: Oct 12, 2010 3:24 PM

    FoF Daily Blog Entry: 10/12/10
    “Strong men also cry. Strong men…also…cry.” I think when Jeffrey Lebowski said this, he was referring to this situation with Brett Favre. I think when teammates see a man cry due to some tragedy as uncontrollable as 20 years of adultery, they naturally mourn for you.
    And sure enough, Favre delivered a W in my mind. If Harvin would have just jumped a little higher on the second to last play, game over. And what’s with the receiver not breaking up the pick 6. You gotta feel for a man who’s team always lets him down, and who’s had the media only showing his failures for the last 18 years. That’s the real tragedy here.

  201. In1Ear&OutYourMother says: Oct 12, 2010 3:31 PM

    Dewey Axewoond
    My fault on missing Aryan, but I’m glad that thats what you took out of my statement. One spelling error. While over-looking yours, as this isn’t a grammar lesson. Thank you for telling me what you like in or around your mouth. Such as my mothers nipples, and sisters ear lobes. Whats your favorite chicken recipe? Is it the one where you eat it from your dads ass? Or maybe its chicken cordon blue-it in your mouth? It’s probbly chicken ala sperm. Again- I will state that homosexual name calling doesn’t offend me, but I think it may offend you. So im just gonna keep going with that route.
    You did hit my funny bone several times. All Mickey Rourke movies are badass?!?! Haha you sir, are a comedic genious!!! I will no longer argue with you, as I am queerly, ah I mean clearly outmatched

  202. In1Ear&OutYourMother says: Oct 12, 2010 3:31 PM

    Dewey Axewoond
    My fault on missing Aryan, but I’m glad that thats what you took out of my statement. One spelling error. While over-looking yours, as this isn’t a grammar lesson. Thank you for telling me what you like in or around your mouth. Such as my mothers nipples, and sisters ear lobes. Whats your favorite chicken recipe? Is it the one where you eat it from your dads ass? Or maybe its chicken cordon blue-it in your mouth? It’s probbly chicken ala sperm. Again- I will state that homosexual name calling doesn’t offend me, but I think it may offend you. So im just gonna keep going with that route.
    You did hit my funny bone several times. All Mickey Rourke movies are badass?!?! Haha you sir, are a comedic genious!!! I will no longer argue with you, as I am queerly, ah I mean clearly outmatched

  203. shaggytoodle says: Oct 12, 2010 3:33 PM

    For people that are hoping Favre will be 100% eventually this season he won’t he can’t. 40 year olds get aches and pains, most of them never recover fully, and they don’t never even played football for 20 years. When you were down by 2 in the 4th quarter you should have ran the ball a little bit. Its going to be a LONG season for the Vikes especially if they lose this week.
    This question is off topic, but whats the most wins you think any one team will have this year. My guess the top team will have 11 wins no one will probably get more its going to be a nuts football season.

  204. argos says: Oct 12, 2010 3:55 PM

    If things get shaky Joe Webb could be a great third down take-it-to-the-house weapon.

  205. ugk612 says: Oct 12, 2010 3:59 PM

    I am starting to agree, the comeback killing picks can’t continue & I can’t see being short one receiver causing all of the offensive troubles. Some of the deep passes to Moss were under thrown, which makes me wonder if Brett has enough arm left. A lot of the instincts & savy are still there, but the injuries, skipping camp & age make me wonder. Whether it’s Jackson or not, it is time to upgrade the qb position with a young, top notch prospect.

  206. sunbaja says: Oct 12, 2010 4:29 PM

    Bench Favre? What’s the alternative? T-Jack has a ton of athletic ability but he’s a deer in the headlights. Zero decision making ability. Never goes through his progressions. He’s not an NFL calibur QB. Is Favre beyond his prime? No question about that but you ride Favre out this season. If the Vikings don’t start winning soon and are out of the playoff hunt, I’m guessing Favre retires anyway. The big mistake was letting Sage get away. No he’s not a HOF QB either but he’s a much better option than T-Jack. Bottom line, Favre gives the Vikings the best chance to win now even with his turn overs.

  207. milenko-tc says: Oct 12, 2010 4:30 PM

    Did anybody watch that game last night, brett was running for his life. he had a great 2nd half. its a long season, they still have a chance. just wait and see, all the hate, does it help you people sleep at night?

  208. tjstyles says: Oct 12, 2010 4:35 PM

    I am a fan of Jackson, but I don’t think it is time to put him in yet. Favre started out slow last year, too. He put together a couple of good consecutive drives in the 3rd and 4th quarters and made some good passes and moved the chains. He is looking beat up, and he is making some pretty bad decisions, but I think there is a chance he will start playing better over the next couple of weeks.
    It wasn’t until week 5 or so last season that Favre really looked good. The big difference is that we had a much easier schedule at the start of last season. If we had played the teams last year that we played this year, we would have started out 1-3 as well. I would say that if Favre is still missing easy passes in week 7, pull him for Jackson.

  209. Majik Bullet says: Oct 12, 2010 4:41 PM

    # DSC says: October 12, 2010 2:52 PM
    Don’t you ever get sick of defending Favre? Talk about man crush.
    You know Rodgers is better or else you wouldn’t rip Rodgers every time to try to defend Favre. Pathetic.
    ______________
    In what way am I defending Favre? In fact, I may be the only Favre fan on here who admits that he choked twice last night, the Harvin overthrow and the pick. He blew it, no way around it. Kudos to him for digging out of the hole, but his fumbles and inaccuracy put them there. The loss is mainly on Favre, with a small shout out to the poor coaching of Chilly.
    And yes, as of right now, Rodgers is clearly outplaying Favre this season (absolutely not last season), and I’ve said this on here before as well. I’m not ripping Rodgers to defend Favre, I’m ripping Rodgers because you homers seem to think he is untouchable. He’s definitely talented, but like I’ve proven with FACTS (props Shut up FOOL), he can’t close games.
    You guys bash Favre for the same thing, yet he’s actually proven he can win games at the end (yes, and lose them too). Rodgers, to this point, hasn’t proven that, but when he fails, you guys blame the kicker, the defense, the coach, probably even the dude selling PBR in the stands. But it’s never Rodgers’ fault he throws a pick in overtime to seal the loss, and it’s maddening. Talk about a mancrush.

  210. willynel says: Oct 12, 2010 4:45 PM

    In 2000, a young quarterback by the name of Daunte Culpepper took over as the starter (after Denny Green couldn’t get Dan Marino to unretire, sound familiar?). He proceeded to have a Pro Bowl year.
    Almost every quarterback that has had Moss as a receiver had gotten better with him to throw to.
    Look who Tarvaris has as receivers:
    Moss
    Harvin (who looked great in the slot last night)
    Shiancoe
    Peterson
    He is also more mobile and can buy time. He also has a stronger arm. Moss doesn’t have to cut short a route. The kid can fling it.
    Time to figure out if he really is going to be the future.
    The fact is, Moss would probably have a better chance at a contract extension with Jackson than with Favre.

  211. OregonBearsFan says: Oct 12, 2010 4:55 PM

    Favre’s weeks are numbered. He’s the #1 target for for any defense these days including the Dallas, Green Bay, and New England defenses coming up in the next 3 weeks. BTW… It’s a win-win for the Bears if Favre or TJ plays. If Favre continues to play he’s going to be beat to hell before the Bears have a shot at him in week 10. If TJ plays, well enough said.

  212. TheFoo says: Oct 12, 2010 5:06 PM

    Me thinks you didn’t actually see Jackson in those games. There was a reason he was benched.
    And a reason Frerotte, who wasn’t in the league after that season, won 8 games and helped get them into the playoffs…

  213. adellgfo says: Oct 12, 2010 5:17 PM

    Here is what will happen, Mark it.
    Favre will at some point in this season get injured to the point he has to miss a game. (Don’t worry BrINT your record will be around for awhile).
    Jackson is going to come in and play great. Why? He has Randy Moss, Percy Harvin, Vashande Shinacoe, Adrian Peterson, and i think Toby Gerhart will eventually be able to replace Chester Taylor as a 3rd down back, atleast as a blocker.
    Jackson will be able to move in the pocket, which if last night is any indication of the rest of the season, the Viking Qb is going to need to. We all know Favre has too much lube on his ankle to move that well.
    Having a Mobile Quarterback makes the defense have to pay attention to him, have a spy or play zone near the box to compensate.
    That will take somebody out of coverage which is a bad thing to do against the aforementioned receivers.
    Adrian Peterson is off to one of his best statistical starts of his career. 88 rushes for 480 yards, 5.5avg and 3 touchdowns. You can hand the ball off to him.
    Favre tries too hard to “be that team” and it costs them. The Vikings are a well oiled machine, they just need a smooth operator and Favre is not it.
    On a side note: The Bears will win the division mainly due to the Vikings slow start and the Packers injuries (and don’t give me the crap about excuses, we are 2 tight ends, a tackle, our starting rb, and possibly our qb. That’s a legitimate REASON for a team to play below expectations) however, when the Packers get everybody back they will be a solid team and get the wild card (that is if the Bears don’t screw up) and they will make a run deep into the playoffs.
    When the Packers are healthy, they will be very dangerous and hungry because of the season record they will end up with.
    Aaron Rodgers, Jermichael Finley, Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, James Jones, and Donald Lee are all great players, and as long as the line can hold up and Brandon Jackson can get some sort of a running game going, the offense will b e the best in the league.
    On Defense, the only real hole has been our secondary, and that has been surprisingly decent.
    Pickett and Raji will hold down the middle as well as Jenkins. Although the loss of Nick Barnett does not help, from what I saw of Desmond Bishop there will be no holes in the linebacking core. Clay Matthews III is one of the best young linebackers i have seen in a long time, throw in Hawk and Jones, and it is fairly solid. In secondary, we are about to get Atari Bigby and Al Harris back, with Charles Woodson still dominating the opposition it will be hard to throw on us.
    Packers will make the NFC Championship.

  214. J2ThaROC31 says: Oct 12, 2010 5:45 PM

    jaxdolfan says:
    October 12, 2010 11:57 AM
    From here forward, the verb “Farved” should be used whenever a QB throws a game ending interception.
    —————
    But only Favre does that..

  215. Mike Daly says: Oct 12, 2010 5:45 PM

    Favre needs to be exiled from football, period. He can’t play, he is a bully, and he’s going to get suspended for sexual harassment.

  216. sand0 says: Oct 12, 2010 5:47 PM

    Or maybe Favre will just start dominating again.
    We have to keep in mind that the Vikings have lost 3 close games, two of which were on the road as underdogs to very good teams.
    I’m pretty sure this article is a hit spawner or a bit in jest because it is unlikely that the author could be quite this stupid. I bet virtually every hall of fame QB to ever play has had poor 4 game stretches especially when facing generally good defenses.
    Relax. I think the next three games are easier than people think and hopefully the Vikes can get this party started.

  217. rcunningham says: Oct 12, 2010 5:49 PM

    Dewey,
    Didn’t you completely disappear last season when Cutler hocked up more INTs than Favre ever has?
    And to think I thought you were one of the good Bear fans, who was somewhat respectable and didn’t have to resort to homophobic slurs to insult other fanbases.
    Guess I was wrong. You’re a tool, in the same lineage of Bob Nelson and JimmySmith.

  218. ripper47 says: Oct 12, 2010 5:50 PM

    …you’re the Vikings’ only hope, Obi-Favre……(sheesh)…

  219. Ben Bernanke says: Oct 12, 2010 6:50 PM

    Florio, did you watch the first half? Much of the Vikings problems came from protection issues. T Jack isn’t making that comeback in the second half. Come on man. Stop drinking the hatorade, always doing it. Favre stays.

  220. Deb says: Oct 12, 2010 7:30 PM

    The only possible purpose for this post is that Favre is clicking gold. Yeah, those three second-half TDs were pitiful. Bless his heart. LOL If the League decides to suspend him, I suspect he’ll just hang up the cleats and that will be that. Otherwise, barring injury, he should finish the season. His second-half performance was better than half the starting QBs in the league who are half his age. Bet the Browns would kill to have him.

  221. CaptainMarvel says: Oct 12, 2010 7:33 PM

    Travaris Jackson??? Are you serious??? You can write all you want about Favre…but please don’t make a fool of yourself by saying that Jackson is a decent option.

  222. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 12, 2010 8:33 PM

    One of your dumbest submissions yet Florio. You got your hits though, and that is what you were after even if you didn’t really believe what you just wrote.

  223. CarlGerbschmidt says: Oct 12, 2010 9:03 PM

    Told you so. It’s okay, if you beg us nice we’ll put you in the ring of honor some day. But only if you beg.

  224. superb owl says: Oct 12, 2010 9:41 PM

    t-jack and chauncey pullpecker?
    grasping at straws….

  225. Occam says: Oct 12, 2010 10:31 PM

    I wonder if Florio says to Gregg before posting this, “OK Gregg with three ‘G’s’, watch how many responses I get with this piece of drivel about benching Favre.”

  226. HumbleSaintsFan says: Oct 13, 2010 12:23 AM

    lol, preposterous suggestion. granted the Vikings did lose, but they looked like they have potential. In a rematch the vikings crush them 35-10. I can only speak of end of 3rd quarter on, as I missed the earlier part. I think the Vikings can run the table. Glad the Saints already played them. The Vikings are very dangerous with Moss.
    And Favre just needs to go to Walgreen’s and pick up one of the tendinitis wraps that has the air cushion, its super effective, no tendinitis pain anymore.

  227. shaggytoodle says: Oct 13, 2010 12:26 AM

    The Vikings have given up on the future when they BEGGED Favre to come back to fall short in the NFC Championship game. They went to the well one too many times by doing so again this season, but in 2 or 3 weeks if things don’t start looking up, they should start seeing if they have a QB that can play for the future.

  228. wisux says: Oct 13, 2010 5:36 AM

    Vikes still make playoffs this year. Packers, not so much. That team is going to implode. Vikes wind up 11-5 and take the North. Bank on it doubters!

  229. Bernt Fan#4 says: Oct 13, 2010 8:34 AM

    He’s def not playing well, but bench him??
    nah, aint gonna happen.
    Check out the TV ratings of his games.
    (Goodell and Chilly looking over the wang pics on deadspin and salivating like Pavlov’s dog)

  230. Ridge_Runner says: Oct 13, 2010 9:30 AM

    Dewey Axewoond says:
    Also, just wanted to make sure we were all clear on this:
    BEARS 4-1
    Pack 3-2
    CryQueers 1-3
    Lions 1-4

    As Bill Parcells said, “you are what your record says you are.” If the Pack can overcome the injuries they have suffered, they may have a chance to challenge da Bears for the Division, but the Queens season is pretty much over at this point, in the exact fashion many of us predicted when Princess Favre decided to come back for one more shot at glory. Dude should have just stayed retired.

  231. Backlund in 2012 says: Oct 13, 2010 9:42 AM

    The Vikings are done. It’s over. The magic from last year is not coming back. You know it’s true, the sooner you recognize it, the less painful it will be.
    Favre should’ve stay retired. Last year was the closest he was going to get to going back to the Super Bowl. Although with all those millions being thrown at him, can’t say I blame him.

  232. FavresWaffleOutlet says: Oct 13, 2010 9:56 AM

    Like I said…AP has to be wondering just what the hell is going on. They give Favre a 7 MIL bump, pickup Moss’s deal, sign Camarillo, J. Walker…and basically throw money out the window each week, but won’t work contract with the #1 or 2 RB in the league. The Vikes play some more tough teams coming up here, including this week’s pissed off Cowboys. I see MN actually winning this, but Favre getting pummeled again. Romo cannot get it done. Him and Wade-o are gone after this season…or maybe sooner.
    When does the team’s injury report become available for this weekend…? I want to see how Favre’s BS “texter’s elbow” injury is progressing. Comical how the guy can pump and fire his fist like a kid that just won the Little League World Series, numerous times….yet a dump play over the middle for 6 yards requires him to grimace in pain and look for an available camera to show it off to. If any of you have watched Green Bay in the past when Favre was a member…you’ve seen this soap opera act many a time.
    ___________________________________
    ccslick says:
    October 13, 2010 9:23 AM
    WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON AROUND HERE? You win championships by running the ball and playing tough D!!!! You do not win win a loose canon QB throwing the ball every down. Give the ball to AP and win a Super Bowl!!!! END OF STORY.
    This is what Brett Favre does….takes over. You can guarantee every call that comes into his elmet speaker is changed or altered with an audible at the line or in the huddle. Darrell Bevell was no one without Brent Moss. Brett Favre will go nowhere without giving the ball to AP.
    In the words of Gene Simmons….”You wanted the best, you got the best.” Now deal with your Coach/QB. Good luck with that.

  233. ACS2 says: Oct 13, 2010 10:08 AM

    rcunningham says:
    October 12, 2010 5:49 PM
    Dewey,
    Didn’t you completely disappear last season when Cutler hocked up more INTs than Favre ever has?
    ———–
    Cutler threw 26 INTs last season. Favre threw 29 en route to a 4-12 record in 2005.
    Facts: ruining convincing rhetoric since 1545.

  234. ignoringthehaters says: Oct 13, 2010 11:52 AM

    Ok, seriously, how do you expect to have any credibility whatsoever when you print a story like this
    “Jackson’s stats weren’t bad. He had completed 30 of 59 passes for 308 yards”
    Those aren’t even good stats for a highschool team.

  235. HITME says: Oct 13, 2010 11:57 AM

    When Jackson got his chance he wasn’t ready yet. That was obvious to everyone. But after two years at the #2 position he deserves his second chance. Especially with the all washed up starter with the 60 passer rating stinking up the place every game. Jackson has been a Viking for his whole career. The guy with tendinitis in his elbow and an oversized ego will go into the hall of fame as a Packer. All you Jackson haters would rather watch an ex Packer ruin the Vikings’ season, than see the back up QB try to save the season. If coach Childress has any spine at all, now is the time to show it by sending the baby cheesus to the showers so he can go home and deal with his marital problems.

  236. thirdandgoal says: Oct 13, 2010 2:03 PM

    slickzmoney says:
    He will be fine until week 12 @Redskins his last game compliments of Orakpo
    Every week for the past 20 years, there is a claim like this, from a fan of team X, who’s favorite defensive player Y is going take Favre down. So far, the score is Favre 289, Player Y zero. Most likely Orakpo will be no more successful than the Jets players were on Monday. The only person with a realistic shot will be the commissioner.

  237. Macleod says: Oct 13, 2010 5:18 PM

    “Tarvaris Jackson. Given that he performed extremely well at times…”
    Um, when exactly was that? I don’t believe he has ever passed for 300 yards in his career. I’d like to believe you guys, but I’ve seen Jackson play. The interceptions would be cut down, because Jackson either throws the ball to his check down every down, or he launches deep passes out of bounds where nobody can catch it. Having a strong arm isn’t any good if you’re doing that.

  238. scra22 says: Oct 13, 2010 5:45 PM

    aceking4u says:
    October 12, 2010 1:18 PM
    In Week 5…
    2. Drew Brees throwing 2 Int (one returned for a TD and one on the 1 yd line)? 3 for the game
    4. Drew Brees fumble 6 to seal the game (2 sack fumble for the day)?
    =========
    #2 is right, I don’t know where you got #4 from. Brees was sacked twice but fumbled zero times.

  239. Jimsjam33 says: Oct 13, 2010 6:57 PM

    Are you smoking crack ? Bench Fav’re now and throw away the season . Oh yeah ! Insane .

  240. ACS2 says: Oct 13, 2010 7:05 PM

    ignoringthehaters says:
    October 13, 2010 11:52 AM
    Ok, seriously, how do you expect to have any credibility whatsoever when you print a story like this
    “Jackson’s stats weren’t bad. He had completed 30 of 59 passes for 308 yards”
    Those aren’t even good stats for a highschool team.
    ———–
    And he put up those numbers without Moss and Harvin, right?
    Meanwhile, WITH Moss and Harvin, Brett’s crapping the bed and rolling in it. Right now Favre dreams of putting up numbers like Jackson did two years ago.
    The queens would have more than one win right now if Favre were spending less time throwing inaccurate passes and more time sending lewd texts. It makes you wonder what caused that tendonitis…

  241. ACS2 says: Oct 13, 2010 7:06 PM

    Jimsjam33 says:
    October 13, 2010 6:57 PM
    Are you smoking crack ? Bench Fav’re now and throw away the season . Oh yeah ! Insane .
    ———
    Looks like the alternative is to let Favre play and throw away the season himself.

  242. Mason222 says: Oct 14, 2010 1:53 AM

    Remember Sampson and Delilah? Noahs Ark ? All the Animals are on Board and Sampson has been locked up and trown away. Noah wasnt crazy after all and Sampson did end up Brining down the House. If the Vikes went for 1 instead of 2 the Game is a whole different Game It’s Childress thats lost each one of these with very poor decisions and NO WILDCAT!!!!!!!!

  243. ScottyFargo says: Oct 15, 2010 11:07 PM

    Now that Favre has Moss, he’ll be the leading MVP Candidate real soon.

  244. UnsportsmanlikeConduct says: Oct 16, 2010 1:47 AM

    3 TDs and 1 Pick and the bloggers say, “He’s not getting it done.” That’s why your bloggers and not coaches.

  245. Benny Mendenberger-Ward says: Oct 16, 2010 10:10 AM

    lol, this is ridiculous Florio. T-Jack really? Dont worry, if they are 3-7 or something, Favre will just retire and T-Jack will get his shot.

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