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Colts quietly working on deal with Manning

NFL_Manning_250.jpgIndianapolis Colts president Bill Polian repeatedly has said that a new contract with quarterback Peyton Manning can’t be finalized until a new labor agreement has been struck between the NFL and the players’ union.

Apparently, that line of thinking no longer applies.

On Tuesday, Colts owner Jim Irsay indicated that negotiations are occurring quietly behind the scenes.

It’s kind of like the Get Smart cone of silence,” Irsay said, per Sean Leahy of USA Today.  “That’s
when you kind of get things done.  So I think you get things done when
it’s quiet, and it’s been quiet.  So that’s the way we want to move
forward.”

Irsay acknowledged that the contract given to Patriots quarterback Tom Brady helps set the stage for Manning’s deal.

“All deals that are signed, it creates frameworks,” Irsay said.  “But
like I said it’s something that we’re working on it, and can’t really
comment on anything else except, you know, markets get established by
those sort of things.

“Those two guys have been tied together, no
doubt, 1A-1B as the greatest players in the game.  You know they’ll
probably be compared for a long time even after their careers.”

Obviously, the Colts believe their guy is 1A — and Manning’s agents surely feel the same way.  That means Manning’s deal will be better than Brady’s.  The only remaining question is the size of the gap.

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  1. joetoronto says: Oct 13, 2010 7:38 AM

    I’m thinking Polian thinks a labor deal is coming.

  2. Otis Taylor 89 says: Oct 13, 2010 8:00 AM

    Someone needs to tell Irsay the Cone of Silence never worked – they were always sending it out for repairs.

  3. Richm2257 says: Oct 13, 2010 8:17 AM

    Obviously, the Colts believe their guy is 1A — and Manning’s agents surely feel the same way.
    ————————————————-
    Brady’s hands beg to differ. You know, the hands with the two extra rings on them.

  4. conníe says: Oct 13, 2010 8:25 AM

    So whats’ the current rate for the league’s best choker?

  5. Champ Kind says: Oct 13, 2010 8:33 AM

    Richm2257 says: October 13, 2010 8:17 AM
    “Brady’s hands beg to differ. You know, the hands with the two extra rings on them.”
    Please.
    Manning is the best QB in the game. Possibly of all time. Brady is great, but he’s no Manning.

  6. sexyrexygrossman says: Oct 13, 2010 8:40 AM

    Umm, I really wish patriot fans would fall of the face of the earth. Their quarterback is the biggest whinner in the league, I get enough enough lip from him. And if I was manning, i’d be insulted by the comparison.

  7. conníe says: Oct 13, 2010 8:41 AM

    # Richm2257 says: October 13, 2010 8:17 AM
    “Brady’s hands beg to differ. You know, the hands with the two extra rings on them.”
    What has he won since the cameras got turned off?

  8. footballisfun says: Oct 13, 2010 8:43 AM

    conníe says:
    October 13, 2010 8:25 AM
    So whats’ the current rate for the league’s best choker?
    I thought it was established that Favre was making about 20 million this year

  9. Belichick for President says: Oct 13, 2010 8:45 AM

    conníe says:
    October 13, 2010 8:25 AM
    So whats’ the current rate for the league’s best choker?
    That’s not fair, Brett Favre is still far and away a bigger choke artist than Manning. Look at how many picks Favre has thrown to end games.
    In other news, why is it when Manning and the Colts aren’t saying much about the contract it is “quietly working on a deal”, but when it’s Brayd and the Patriots it reads “disconnect between team and player”?

  10. Jaydub says: Oct 13, 2010 8:51 AM

    # Otis Taylor 89 says: October 13, 2010 8:00 AM
    Someone needs to tell Irsay the Cone of Silence never worked – they were always sending it out for repairs.
    ————————————————–
    You owe me a new keyboard

  11. footballfan says: Oct 13, 2010 8:51 AM

    You would think he would take a pay cut to get some defensive players. He may be the golden boy but he can’t win a championship by himself.

  12. Phyxsius says: Oct 13, 2010 8:53 AM

    Obviously, the Colts believe their guy is 1A
    ___
    Actually, everyone outside of the six new england states knows Peyton is 1A.

  13. Grape_Ape says: Oct 13, 2010 9:01 AM

    sexyrexygrossman says:
    October 13, 2010 8:40 AM
    Umm, I really wish patriot fans would fall of the face of the earth. Their quarterback is the biggest whinner in the league, I get enough enough lip from him. And if I was manning, i’d be insulted by the comparison.
    ———-
    Really, bigger than Manning??
    ————–
    conníe says:
    October 13, 2010 8:41 AM
    # Richm2257 says: October 13, 2010 8:17 AM
    “Brady’s hands beg to differ. You know, the hands with the two extra rings on them.”
    What has he won since the cameras got turned off?

    This is always a LAME argument, they win 18 in a row Brady throws the go ahead TD (not the game ending interception, see Manning) with less than 2 minutes left and its because there were no cameras.

  14. zonepro764 says: Oct 13, 2010 9:05 AM

    Bradys 3 rings should be taken away from him due to cheating. Ever since they got busted stealing signals they have sucked.
    The Colts at that time were unstopable, granted the defense was below average like usual but New England stole i’d say at least 1 ring from Manning and his Colts.

  15. cutler_eats_it says: Oct 13, 2010 9:08 AM

    Chumpkinda, you forgot “in the regular season”. Cause that’s what he is…the best regular season qb of all time. He’s something like 9-10 in the playoffs! You Brady envyists really need to stop revising history.

  16. joetoronto says: Oct 13, 2010 9:37 AM

    By the end of the year, if not sooner, NE fans will have nothing to brag about anymore.
    It’s all over, folks.

  17. Grape_Ape says: Oct 13, 2010 9:48 AM

    zonepro764 says:
    October 13, 2010 9:05 AM
    Bradys 3 rings should be taken away from him due to cheating. Ever since they got busted stealing signals they have sucked.
    The Colts at that time were unstopable, granted the defense was below average like usual but New England stole i’d say at least 1 ring from Manning and his Colts.
    “Ever since they got busted stealing signals they have sucked”
    —-
    Are you a MORON, 42-13. “Since they got busted” not sure if that sucks.

  18. Belichick Is God says: Oct 13, 2010 9:56 AM

    Manning is the best regular season QB ever, so if you are all about regular seasons, stat-padding, etc. then he’s #1.
    If you are instead all about winning and performing in the clutch, and I’m not talking about regular season games, Manning is way down the list and Brady & Montana are at the top.

  19. ADX says: Oct 13, 2010 10:10 AM

    Grape_ape said
    “This is always a LAME argument, they win 18 in a row Brady throws the go ahead TD (not the game ending interception, see Manning) with less than 2 minutes left and its because there were no cameras.”
    Uhh you mean like Brady in the 06 AFC Championship game?
    Or Brady last year throwing a pass to every Raven defender who was able to walk that day?
    It’s funny how Brady buttworshippers never remember his failures, which there are many since the second half of the decade.
    The simple fact is even with CHEATING all he EVER did was move his team into FG range. Hell he posted like a 35 qb rating in one superbowl and still won.
    Will any of you morons realize it’s a team game… ever?

  20. Richm2257 says: Oct 13, 2010 10:13 AM

    zonepro764 says:
    October 13, 2010 9:05 AM
    Bradys 3 rings should be taken away from him due to cheating. Ever since they got busted stealing signals they have sucked.
    ————————————————-
    This is what’s wrong of you typical “Cheatriots” morons….
    EVERY team in the NFL tapes the other teams’s signals. It’s not “stealing”, it’s LEGAL. The Patriots got fined not because they were taping, but because of WHERE they were taping FROM.
    You people are all too stupid to understand that.
    And anyone who would take Manning and his history of choking his way to a single Super Bowl in 12 years, over Brady, who rises to the occassion to win 3 in 9 years, is simply an idiot. You can’t have rational discussions with idiots.

  21. smithopher says: Oct 13, 2010 10:15 AM

    Grape_Ape – Tom Brady got his own rule cause he’s that big of a whiner. Peyton Manning is the best QB in the NFL right now, arguably the best ever. He’ll leave the league having broken Favre’s good records, while not coming close to the all time interception or all time fumble records. Tom Brady is the beneficiary of a good system and a good coach. Also has that single-season TD record cause Randy Moss went off in his first season up there. Brady has ALWAYS had a better team around him. Indy hasn’t had a truly better defense than NE one season out of the past like 10. Peyton Manning’s coaches and teammates are beneficiaries of Peyton Manning being there. HE makes them better, HE gives them the opportunity to win. Not the other way around, as in Brady’s case.

  22. Grape_Ape says: Oct 13, 2010 10:16 AM

    joetoronto says:
    October 13, 2010 9:37 AM
    By the end of the year, if not sooner, NE fans will have nothing to brag about anymore.
    It’s all over, folks.
    ——————
    Yeah, like they haven’t been saying that for the last 3 years.
    Sorry haters, like the Colts with Manning as long as Brady is standing they will be a competitive team. That doesnt mean they will win it all every year but will be in the hunt. So to say by the end of the year it will be over is moronic.
    That statement is only valid if you are a Bills fan.

  23. Bos Celtics says: Oct 13, 2010 10:18 AM

    Back in the day before Magic and Bird,before
    MJ before Kobe and Lebron there was Big Bill vrs
    Wilt .I believe only one year did Rusell have a bigger contract than Wilt and it was by one dollar .
    Some 50 years latter there is no doubt about the ring total( Bill) or the most points scored in a game ( Wilt) .Just for laughs take the Pats off the table because you know – they stoll little Peyton’s lunch money .Answer me this — How is it the Stats king of this or any generation tied with Trent Dilfer and Bret Favre for rings .A mediorcre post season and a 1-1 in the big game for the best qb of all time .As the robot on Lost in Space (yup I am that freaking old ) would say “that does not compute ” If you are going to grade strickly on stats then Wilt had it right when he climed 20,000 women at least if he failed (remember before viagra)he couldn’t blame somebody else.
    Wilt couldn’t blame the kicker,the O line,the D line ,the coaching staff including the HC no he would have to take blame for the equiment failure.No Wilt unlike number 18 would have to say no I couldn’t rise to the occasion and leave it at that.

  24. Lord Harry Latts says: Oct 13, 2010 10:22 AM

    Peyton’s continued gutlessness is going to get him a nice raise. That’s funny…choking should get your pay reduced…but what do I know ? As for the Patriots cheating….yes you’re 42-13….but have not won. The vidoetaping put you guys over the top…without it….you’ve faced the same playoff crapshoot as everyone else…so the “genius” hasn’t looked so genius-y since. Like when the Ravens were destroying you on your own field in the playoffs last year…and your team quit. Bill had no genius answers then…just the same look as the Caldwell puppet on the Colts sidelines.

  25. Krow says: Oct 13, 2010 10:23 AM

    I’m surprised that money is such an issue. Both Peyton and Brady are set for life. We’re really talking about how much cash you have when you die.

  26. ShruggingGalt says: Oct 13, 2010 10:29 AM

    Does the deal include making him the first official “player-head coach”?
    Or maybe “play until you don’t want to anymore, then you’ll keep the same salary as head coach”

  27. 18ALLDAY says: Oct 13, 2010 10:31 AM

    Have lived in Indianapolis all my life and am obviously a huge Colts fan. This said I can even admit that Manning is the best “regular season” QB of all time. I don’t get caught up in arguments on whether the Patriots cheated or the fact the one the the worst calls in NFL history(tuck rule vs Raiders) helped them get to one of their SB’s. The fact is what the Patriots did or did not do had no affect on the Colts blowing it vs the Titans in 99, losing at home to Pittsburgh after Jerome Bettis tried to give us the game, and multiple losses to San Diego at home and away. In all these games I would classify Peyton’s play as mediocre ate best. That said, what Peyton has meant to the franchise and the city of Indianapolis is almost unmeasurable.

  28. Pookphi says: Oct 13, 2010 10:33 AM

    Two words: “tuck rule.”
    If the tuck rule had not been unearthed in the January 2002 AFC Divisional playoff game between the Patriots and the Raiders, how different would this discussion be? Would there even BE a Patriots “dynasty” discussion?

  29. umrguy42 says: Oct 13, 2010 10:51 AM

    Pookphi, as a Rams fan, I could only *dream* of no “tuck rule”… cuz then I get to dream that Kurt Warner would have led the Rams to their second SB title in 3 years, and The Greatest Show on Turf would’ve been the dynasty discussion of the Oughts :p

  30. joetoronto says: Oct 13, 2010 10:52 AM

    Ape: Better wake up, it’s here!

  31. Grape_Ape says: Oct 13, 2010 10:52 AM

    smithopher says:
    October 13, 2010 10:15 AM
    Grape_Ape – Tom Brady got his own rule cause he’s that big of a whiner. Peyton Manning is the best QB in the NFL right now, arguably the best ever. He’ll leave the league having broken Favre’s good records, while not coming close to the all time interception or all time fumble records. Tom Brady is the beneficiary of a good system and a good coach. Also has that single-season TD record cause Randy Moss went off in his first season up there. Brady has ALWAYS had a better team around him. Indy hasn’t had a truly better defense than NE one season out of the past like 10. Peyton Manning’s coaches and teammates are beneficiaries of Peyton Manning being there. HE makes them better, HE gives them the opportunity to win. Not the other way around, as in Brady’s case.
    ————————–
    First, every QB plays in a system, the Colts run a SYSTEM the plays to Mannings strengths not to mention he plays at least 9 games a year in a dome that also helps there passing game. And to give all the credit to Moss for the 2007 season isn’t fair to Brady. Why is it that when he was in Oakland he never made any of those QB’s look good, not even in his first year. Brady also makes players around him better (see Deon Branch). Manning has also always had better weapons on offence.

  32. Grape_Ape says: Oct 13, 2010 10:53 AM

    18ALLDAY says:
    October 13, 2010 10:31 AM
    Have lived in Indianapolis all my life and am obviously a huge Colts fan. This said I can even admit that Manning is the best “regular season” QB of all time. I don’t get caught up in arguments on whether the Patriots cheated or the fact the one the the worst calls in NFL history(tuck rule vs Raiders) helped them get to one of their SB’s. The fact is what the Patriots did or did not do had no affect on the Colts blowing it vs the Titans in 99, losing at home to Pittsburgh after Jerome Bettis tried to give us the game, and multiple losses to San Diego at home and away. In all these games I would classify Peyton’s play as mediocre ate best. That said, what Peyton has meant to the franchise and the city of Indianapolis is almost unmeasurable.
    ———–
    Finally, a logical fan!!

  33. Richm2257 says: Oct 13, 2010 10:54 AM

    Champ Kind says:
    Please.
    Manning is the best QB in the game. Possibly of all time. Brady is great, but he’s no Manning.
    ————————————————
    You’re right; Brady doesn’t choke nearly enough, and he comes through in the clutch far too often.

  34. Lord Harry Latts says: Oct 13, 2010 10:56 AM

    there was never a patriots dynasty…only a period of time where they were found cheating…and the cheating was so egregious…the commissioner of the league burned the evidence before Jeff Fisher and the competition committee could even review it. there is no dynasty…just embarassment and shame.

  35. kiera620 says: Oct 13, 2010 10:58 AM

    I’m not a fan of the Colts and definitely not a fan of the patriots, but seriously Peyton Manning is most definitely better than Tom Brady. Tom Brady is a great qb and may very well play better in playoff games than Manning, however Manning overall is still better. As it remains both these teams will remain competitive as long as these qb’s play. As a Bills fan I don’t look forward to losing to the pats twice a year…lol.

  36. kiera620 says: Oct 13, 2010 11:00 AM

    smithopher says:
    October 13, 2010 10:15 AM
    Grape_Ape – Tom Brady got his own rule cause he’s that big of a whiner. Peyton Manning is the best QB in the NFL right now, arguably the best ever. He’ll leave the league having broken Favre’s good records, while not coming close to the all time interception or all time fumble records. Tom Brady is the beneficiary of a good system and a good coach. Also has that single-season TD record cause Randy Moss went off in his first season up there. Brady has ALWAYS had a better team around him. Indy hasn’t had a truly better defense than NE one season out of the past like 10. Peyton Manning’s coaches and teammates are beneficiaries of Peyton Manning being there. HE makes them better, HE gives them the opportunity to win. Not the other way around, as in Brady’s case.
    ———————————-
    VERY well said!

  37. 18ALLDAY says: Oct 13, 2010 11:42 AM

    Excuse me but can someone direct me to the grown up football discussions. I seem to have stumbled into the gradeschool discussions where people have to “try” and make their points by calling people idiots, morons, and I think I even saw the word doody-head. I’m talking both sides of the coin. No matter what team you are a fan of if you can’t see that P. Manning and T. Brady are 2 of the best Qb’s of the era or even history then what’s the point. I hate the Patriots and T. Brady more than the next Colts fan but I’m man enough to admit we got our asses handed to us by the Patriots in plenty of playoff games.

  38. Lord Harry Latts says: Oct 13, 2010 11:49 AM

    cutler…i’m a jet fan. i just enjoy making fun of the Pats.

  39. Grape_Ape says: Oct 13, 2010 11:50 AM

    smithopher says:
    October 13, 2010 10:15 AM
    Grape_Ape – Tom Brady got his own rule cause he’s that big of a whiner. Peyton Manning is the best QB in the NFL right now, arguably the best ever. He’ll leave the league having broken Favre’s good records, while not coming close to the all time interception or all time fumble records. Tom Brady is the beneficiary of a good system and a good coach. Also has that single-season TD record cause Randy Moss went off in his first season up there. Brady has ALWAYS had a better team around him. Indy hasn’t had a truly better defense than NE one season out of the past like 10. Peyton Manning’s coaches and teammates are beneficiaries of Peyton Manning being there. HE makes them better, HE gives them the opportunity to win. Not the other way around, as in Brady’s case.
    ———————-
    And to add 1 more thing to the 2007 season, until 07 Brady NEVER had a true # 1 receiver. Manning has had Harrison, Wayne and even Clark.
    Brady final gets a true #1 and puts up those numbers, doesn’t that show what he can do if he has great receivers like Manning?

  40. goodcall says: Oct 13, 2010 1:43 PM

    I am a Browns fan and I would like either of them.

  41. NFLJunkie says: Oct 13, 2010 2:28 PM

    Tom Brady got his own rule cause he’s that big of a whiner
    Considering how much the Colts — especially Manning and Polian — whine about things from defensive players being “too rough” on receivers (talk about getting rules tweaked to favor your style of play!) to regulating what an opponent’s mascot can do on their own home field, this is pretty funny.

  42. expo_78 says: Oct 13, 2010 2:28 PM

    Why is this always a debate? Brady is a great Qb, if you dont see that, go watch some other sport and come back when you are mature. Manning is a great QB, if you cant see that, well you know what to do. Here is the bottom line. Brady has always been surrounded by a better TEAM, he has not necesarrily had better offensive weapons but has had a defense. I feel from my standpoint that when you decide on an MVP or the GOAT that you have to look at what the player means to the team. Peyton Manning is literally the Colts franchise, he is irreplaceable. Period. Brady will be a star anywhere he goes (as would Manning) but we all saw Brady get hurt and the Patriots went 11-5 and wouldve made the playoffs had the AFC not been so freakishly good that year. The Colts minus Manning? I can only imagine it would be like watching the Panthers this year. Manning had something like 7 comeback victories last year, thats not choking and my book. What happened in the Super bowl was a great play by a mediocre CB. Manning does not typically get outsmarted but he was on that play. It doesnt make him a choker. Look at what Favre has done numerous times, you almost count on him to throw the pic. What about Brady’s pic in the 2006 AFCCG? I never thought he was a choker for that one deciding interception, but by some peoples logic I guess he could be…My opinion doesnt have to count for anything but as a Bears fan, I am constantly watching other quarterbacks so I can dream of what it would be like to have consistancy. I thank God of the Manning-Brady debate, its a great argument and far from over

  43. turbodog says: Oct 13, 2010 4:42 PM

    Part of the deal is Polian gets to use Mannings forehead as signage

  44. rnls105 says: Oct 14, 2010 6:32 PM

    One thing the COLTS will take advantage of when they sign Peyton to an astronomical contract is knowing he will renegotiate his contract (down the line) to get the best players to bring that “W” and go for the Lambardi. Sure, he loves the fact that he can be called the highest paid player, hell who wouldn’t! But he loves winning. Money is great but winning is what it’s all about. Greed doesn’t pan out in that family. Archie raised him right..

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