Comments on: Week Six Monday 10-pack

By: AmateurFootballtalk

AmateurFootballtalk — Tue, 19 Oct 2010 03:25:21 +0000

all the Bucs need is Bill Cowher and they will be elite, quick. otherwise it won’t happen with radio at the helm

By: chet brooks 31

chet brooks 31 — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:54:42 +0000

9ers fieldgoal to punt sequence was the worst I’ve ever seen…… at any level. I’ve been to hundreds of youth football games and high school games, and never seen anything that ridiculous. Jed York should have wandered onto the field and fired Singletary and his entire staff on the spot.

By: philrat

philrat — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:10:37 +0000

Helmet to helmet hits…The only way to prevent concussions is to eliminate tackling and play flag football instead. I doubt anyone would be would be interested in watching flag football.

By: moscabanzai

moscabanzai — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:09:45 +0000

Florio, when talking about the hits yesterday, why mention only Meriweather? His hit looked less intentional than either of Harrison’s hits from yesterday. A lot of the most violent-appearing hits look worse because they are at such high speed, when the defenders are not actually trying to hit helmet-to-helmet, but do accidentally. To me, both Harrison’s hits looked like he was fully intending to hit helmet-to-helmet. By far he should be the example of suspension-worthy acts.

By: Codebeard

Codebeard — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:25:03 +0000

#9
I could’ve told you Kolb should’ve continued to start if healthy back after the Week 2 game. This isn’t a shock to anyone that would do well, and to the people who assumed that he should’ve been benched because he wasn’t playing like Peyton Manning in his first 6 quarters, well that’s your own fault.
That said, Kolb has a lot to learn. He got DeSean Jackson killed out there. But ultimately he’s not going to learn sitting on the bench. Vick is gone at the end of the year, get Kolb the experience now.

By: Turd Furguson

Turd Furguson — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:01:07 +0000

My God the way Floria is talking pretty soon they won’t need helmets or pads. Maybe they could just play flag football… Riddle me this if the head is at the top of the body, and you lean over to grab someone and wrap your arms around them, how is it possible to lead with anything other than your head? Unless of course your head isn’t on your shoulders… Maybe it’s up something else if you think this is a major problem..

By: southernboi727

southernboi727 — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:13:51 +0000

As long as the Bucs beat the teams they’re supposed to beat they’ll be just fine. They’re overachieving and thats better than at any point from last season. Shoot I might actually go to the next home game against the Rams cause thats a game that they can win. Race to 10 baby! GO BUCS ALL DAY!

By: simple_simon1

simple_simon1 — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:55:01 +0000

Bill in DC;
You’re 100% correct. The NFL has become the joke of the world in officiating. I almost would love to see them go back to the old “straight forward” rules and no replay. Problem has become two-fold. The rules, like the catch rule for example, has become so convoluted with so much grey area, that the refs can call whatever they want and still make a case that it was the right call. There are many of these rules in the NFL now. Another major problem is the fact, and it’s becoming more and more clear this is a fact, that when you’re not a great team, you simply don’t get the calls. People always say it but only a fan of a team like the Lions can tell you how true this really is.
Yesterday might have been the worst day of officiating I’ve ever watched in my life, across the entire league. Johnson not called for pass interference in the KC game directly cost them the game. Detroit had multiple calls in the endzone against the Giants that directly put the game out of reach, all of them very suspect and all of them giving fresh sets of downs. The Vikings got every call their way in their game vs the Cowboys (although the refs might just be making up for 2 decades of the Cowboys getting all the calls in the first 2 months of this season…LOL). The Jets (and, yes, he did interfere but only did because he was clearly off balance from being pulled back by Holmes first) won a game on a refs call. Luckily for Miami, they managed to hold on after getting screwed out of a first down in the 4th quarter.
Also, 2 times yesterday, I saw the refs blow the “Calvin Johnson rule” in a game. It seems to happen almost every single week so change the stupid rule already.
Anyways, it is becoming apparent that certain teams will always get the calls. They are the Golden teams of the NFL and it’s financially good for the league if they win. I’m becoming more and more certain of this. This doesn’t mean that the flags are always phantom flags. Many times they are actual penalties. Problem is, they only seem to get called against the teams the league seems to not really care about if they win or lose. And it happens every week.
Now, I know my team is getting better but not there yet. Just as many others do. But to play teams like the Giants is difficult enough. You can’t beat the refs too. There were plays in many games yesterday where it was obvious the refs took control and simply determined the game. That’s sad and becoming far too normal in the NFL.
Oh well, that’s it for my rant today

By: ncsteeler

ncsteeler — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:40:16 +0000

I don’t like the idea of moving the trade deadline back. The team that goes into the playoffs should be roughly the same team that started the season not one augmented with a couple of rentals. What if SD’s problems continue and they trade Jackson to a playoff bound team that might need a WR to put them over the top? (e.g., NE, Pitt?) It would taint the playoffs just as late season firesales taint MLB. Week 6 is late enough – only a few teams don’t have some sort of hope; Buff., Clev., Car., Det. That number will at least double in 4 weeks and owners will be less fearful of a fan revolt if they give up on the season.

By: Bill In DC

Bill In DC — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:59:18 +0000

I think the Refs are looking to flag Dallas and are not applying the same ‘judgment’ to Dallas as they do to other teams without the penalty rep. The Peterson non-call is just one example.
When Jenkins got flagged for PI is another. I watched the Redskins-Colts game and in the 4th Qtr Buchanan interfered far worse with Dallas Clark twice on critical plays and there was no call. In one play he literally put his right arm around Clark’s waist and pulled him up short in his route before the ball was anywhere near him. In the other he almost pulled Clark’s jersey off right in front of the ref. Neither resulted in a penalty, yet Jenkins gets a flag because his hand touched Harvin’s back.
Dallas has no one to blame but themselves, the refs ‘expect’ there to be a penalty with their play so they tend to look for it and, as a result, call them tighter than other teams now.

By: BroncosFan

BroncosFan — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:49:11 +0000

Lost in the hubbub over Kolb’s performance is the fact that he was basically an accessory to attempted murder on the DeSean Jackson injury. Call me crazy, but when your best offensive weapon is lost for possibly a month because you hung him out to dry, it was not a good game, regardless of the box score.

By: BBrophy1

BBrophy1 — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:29:16 +0000

Singletary is terrible. If you’re going to punt anyway, let the play clock expire instead of using a time out. Being pushed back 5 yards is beneficial to a punter at the other team’s 34 yard line. Singletary is more worried about perception than making the correct coaching call.

By: conníe

conníe — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:20:45 +0000

“Since then, not a single player — not one — has been ejected for a flagrant helmet-to-helmet hit.”
How does an official determine or prove intent?
Good luck with that.

By: joetoronto

joetoronto — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:13:52 +0000

Pestilence1972: The lawyers would have a field day with that, unfortunately.

By: alewatcher

alewatcher — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:00:47 +0000

# Fantasia says: October 18, 2010 5:49 AM
I love wathing the Cryboys crash and burn. What a joke! Ha!
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I was torn between wanting the Cowgurlz to lose another game, putting them ever closer to watching two other teams play the SB in their new home, and wanting to see BrettFavre throw yet another soul-crushing, game-losing INT.
The Cowgurlz are still their own worst enemy, which makes them so much fun to watch. When will JJ fire himself as GM and let someone with a clue run the team?

By: joetoronto

joetoronto — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:46:50 +0000

Hauschild: You’re out of order, enough said.

By: Lott42

Lott42 — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:38:43 +0000

The biggest game of the week – Pat vs Bal gets no love but write abt a meeting w the brass and Favre? C’mon man.

By: Buck Stallion

Buck Stallion — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:31:10 +0000

Pestilence1972 is correct.
No pads, no face mask, just a leather helmet. It really makes a lot of sense. It makes so much sense, the NFL won’t do it. Less violence means less exciting. Players getting jacked up is a main reason we watch.

By: DopeBoys

DopeBoys — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:22:02 +0000

@ The Doctor
The Vikings are beginning to roll? What game did you watch? Favre sucks and the Cowboys statistically beat down the Vikings. If it wasn’t for poor bonehead plays, Dallas wins that game and probably easily. I understand your optimism but it just isn’t true.
The helmet to helmet thing is nonsense. It is part of the game. Unless a player is spearing someone than incidental helmet to helmet contact cannot be fined, ejected or any other type of punishment. Just because Rodney Harrison says something doesn’t make it true.

By: Hauschild

Hauschild — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:13:08 +0000

Concussions are part of the game. What don’t you people understand about that? You’ll never get rid of them, so stop ruining the game. Players are being compensated for the down sides of football – they make a tremendous amount of money.
You progressives and your insatiable quest for utopia is mind-boggling. Here’s a little tip: No matter how hard you try, there is always a winner and a loser. It’s called real life.

By: Jack Lambert's Dentist

Jack Lambert's Dentist — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:07:41 +0000

So, Cleveland DC Rob Ryan coaches his defense to aggressively hit the guy with the ball. How ironic then when James Harrison blows up a couple Browns and the Cleveland fan base is up in arms. Just last week some Browns poster on this website came up with some drivel about “Mr. Ward meet Mr. Ward” then Sunday you get a taste of your own medicine and you cry foul. Oh the irony!!

By: joetoronto

joetoronto — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 07:58:46 +0000

I can’t believe Wesley complained about being ejected, that’s insane.

By: jerseypatriot

jerseypatriot — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 07:46:01 +0000

11. How can referee’s continue to give teams GARBAGE wins i.e. Jets over Broncos?

By: The Doctor

The Doctor — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 07:33:31 +0000

The Vikings are beginning to roll. Excellent play from the Defense and special teams. If the Offense continues to improve, they might not lose another game this year.

By: Pestilence1972

Pestilence1972 — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 07:19:25 +0000

Go back to a leather helmet.
Seriously.
You put that heavy weapon on player’s heads and they use it as such. Players would not use their head as a weapon if their own head would hurt. My guess is that the game would be more fun to watch because players would have to learn how to tackle the right way, too.

By: contract

contract — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:58:21 +0000

The only way to avoid “helmet to helmet” contact would be to outlaw hitting a player above the chest … because if you hit a guy in the shoulder area, more often than not the helmets come into contact.

By: Rev. Dr. HollywoodWags

Rev. Dr. HollywoodWags — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:56:35 +0000

What, nothing about Ben’s return?
You tried to destroy him with your NBC-sponsored attention whoring yellow journalism and now his *successful* return doesn’t even merit a mention.
You’re such a freakin weasel.

By: Tampa...Bay...Bucs

Tampa...Bay...Bucs — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:55:14 +0000

Tampa Bay 12-4…go bucs

By: Fantasia

Fantasia — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:49:56 +0000

I love wathing the Cryboys crash and burn. What a joke! Ha!

By: Gautam

Gautam — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 03:16:12 +0000

Tampa & Kansas City both showed that they are in a developing mode. But at least the future looks bright for those teams unlike say the Bills & Panthers.