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Antrel Rolle: NFL's emphasis on helmet-to-helmet hits is "ridiculous"

Count giants safety Antrel Rolle as one NFL player who thinks the NFL is already doing more than enough to prevent concussions on the field.

Rolle said on WFAN that he thinks the league is doing too much to protect the offense and preventing defensive players from playing football the way the game is meant to be played.

“It’s fine for the offensive players but I’m on the defensive side of the ball,” Rolle said, per the New York Daily News. “So are you telling me that now I have to slow down? I think we’re already being cautious of what we’re doing and how we’re attacking the ball or how we’re trying to make a tackle. I think that’s absolutely ridiculous because under any circumstances you can’t just absolutely have control over your body when you’re pursuing a tackle.”

Rolle said he worries that the league is going to legislate everything that makes football a great sport out of the NFL.

“This is the game of football,” Rolle said. “This is a game of speed. This is a game of power. This is a game of physical guys going to battle. Once you start saying to guys ‘You’ll get suspended for a game,’ that’s when you’re going to get a very, very tentative football game.”

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  1. footballhistorian says: Oct 19, 2010 4:39 PM

    Complete moron…you don’t have to headhunt to play tough and exciting football

  2. footballhistorian says: Oct 19, 2010 4:39 PM

    Complete moron…you don’t have to headhunt to play tough and exciting football

  3. Crabcake says: Oct 19, 2010 4:43 PM

    offensive players should be held accountable for this also (Heinz Ward!)

  4. Crabcake says: Oct 19, 2010 4:43 PM

    offensive players should be held accountable for this also (Heinz Ward!)

  5. Buffalo66 says: Oct 19, 2010 4:45 PM

    Antrel Rolle is an idiot. The league, thankfully, is trying NOT to turn its players into Mike Websters, Justin Hartwigs and Andre Waters.
    Tackle with your head up. Period.

  6. Buffalo66 says: Oct 19, 2010 4:45 PM

    Antrel Rolle is an idiot. The league, thankfully, is trying NOT to turn its players into Mike Websters, Justin Hartwigs and Andre Waters.
    Tackle with your head up. Period.

  7. EVH12345 says: Oct 19, 2010 4:50 PM

    Hear Hear! “..you’re going to get a very, very tenative football game.”
    Great point by Antrel. Another thing I see is that these players make millions of dollars playing this game. While head injuries should be prevented, at what cost? Let them play the game they are paid to play with an intensity to match their salaries.
    Florio you talk non-stop about how the NFL is a juggernaut. Last nights mediocre MNF game beat out the Yankees in the playoffs. How long will that last when you have players afraid to hit because they might be suspended?

  8. EVH12345 says: Oct 19, 2010 4:50 PM

    Hear Hear! “..you’re going to get a very, very tenative football game.”
    Great point by Antrel. Another thing I see is that these players make millions of dollars playing this game. While head injuries should be prevented, at what cost? Let them play the game they are paid to play with an intensity to match their salaries.
    Florio you talk non-stop about how the NFL is a juggernaut. Last nights mediocre MNF game beat out the Yankees in the playoffs. How long will that last when you have players afraid to hit because they might be suspended?

  9. RFM says: Oct 19, 2010 4:56 PM

    Yea, more attempted arm tackles and more big runs/catches on defenses! “…[Y]ou’re going to get a very, very tentative football game.” I think the Raiders are already ahead of the game!
    Raiders 24
    Donks 21

  10. RFM says: Oct 19, 2010 4:56 PM

    Yea, more attempted arm tackles and more big runs/catches on defenses! “…[Y]ou’re going to get a very, very tentative football game.” I think the Raiders are already ahead of the game!
    Raiders 24
    Donks 21

  11. Mike Daly says: Oct 19, 2010 4:59 PM

    I’m so mixed on this my head is spinning. I agree that we do need to be concerned about concussions and there is a line between physical toughness and outright savagery, but Antrel Rolle makes a solid point – football is a game of toughness and physicality and what has been lost in all the talk about what we’re supposedly learning about concussions is what we’re REALLY learning – there are some guys who are genuinely tougher than others; there are some guys who are not up to taking these hits as others are.
    And as much as I love offense and hope the NFL becomes a game where 38-35 scores are the norm and never the exception, it can be achieved without hamstringing the defense as much as it is – heck, in the 2002-3 seasons when beating up receivers was far more prevalent than today there were quite a few genuinely high-scoring games (37-31 Jets over Bills, 45-39 Bills over Vikings OT, 41-38 Pats over Chiefs OT, 38-30 Pats over Titans, 38-34 Pats over Colts, 38-35 Colts over Bucs OT, 38-31 Titans over Falcons, Superbowl XXXVIII between the Pats and Panthers – you get the idea); I haven’t seen where the rules and enforcement designed to keep offenses from getting hit as much have done anything beyond justifying keeping flimsy players like the Mannings and Bill Polian’s draft picks in the league instead of forcing teams to toughen up their rosters a la the Patriots, the Titans, the Panthers, the NY Giants, etc.
    Overall I’m on Antrel Rolle’s side here. They can deal with the injury issue by better trusting the toughness of players rather than over-regulating the physicality of the game.

  12. Mike Daly says: Oct 19, 2010 4:59 PM

    I’m so mixed on this my head is spinning. I agree that we do need to be concerned about concussions and there is a line between physical toughness and outright savagery, but Antrel Rolle makes a solid point – football is a game of toughness and physicality and what has been lost in all the talk about what we’re supposedly learning about concussions is what we’re REALLY learning – there are some guys who are genuinely tougher than others; there are some guys who are not up to taking these hits as others are.
    And as much as I love offense and hope the NFL becomes a game where 38-35 scores are the norm and never the exception, it can be achieved without hamstringing the defense as much as it is – heck, in the 2002-3 seasons when beating up receivers was far more prevalent than today there were quite a few genuinely high-scoring games (37-31 Jets over Bills, 45-39 Bills over Vikings OT, 41-38 Pats over Chiefs OT, 38-30 Pats over Titans, 38-34 Pats over Colts, 38-35 Colts over Bucs OT, 38-31 Titans over Falcons, Superbowl XXXVIII between the Pats and Panthers – you get the idea); I haven’t seen where the rules and enforcement designed to keep offenses from getting hit as much have done anything beyond justifying keeping flimsy players like the Mannings and Bill Polian’s draft picks in the league instead of forcing teams to toughen up their rosters a la the Patriots, the Titans, the Panthers, the NY Giants, etc.
    Overall I’m on Antrel Rolle’s side here. They can deal with the injury issue by better trusting the toughness of players rather than over-regulating the physicality of the game.

  13. bleedgreen422 says: Oct 19, 2010 5:00 PM

    The emphasis on removing helmet to helmet isn’t just for the offensive player. Robinson is out with a concussion as well, like Buffalo66 said, tackle with your head up.
    If you think that just because the league imposed this new statute that things are going to change immediately and drastically, you clearly haven’t been paying attention. If I’m correct there’s a social network policy for players, but guys are still tweeting within the 90 minute window, and that seems much easier to change then helmet to helmet contact. The league is moving in the right direction and I don’t think that’s towards a more tentative iteration of football, rather one where teams can keep a team intact through an entire game.

  14. bleedgreen422 says: Oct 19, 2010 5:00 PM

    The emphasis on removing helmet to helmet isn’t just for the offensive player. Robinson is out with a concussion as well, like Buffalo66 said, tackle with your head up.
    If you think that just because the league imposed this new statute that things are going to change immediately and drastically, you clearly haven’t been paying attention. If I’m correct there’s a social network policy for players, but guys are still tweeting within the 90 minute window, and that seems much easier to change then helmet to helmet contact. The league is moving in the right direction and I don’t think that’s towards a more tentative iteration of football, rather one where teams can keep a team intact through an entire game.

  15. gameday says: Oct 19, 2010 5:02 PM

    Players today are too soft.
    Protecting QB’s like sissy boy Brady has taken away aggressiveness from the defenses.
    THIS IS TACKLE FOOTBALL PEOPLE!
    I don’t want to watch flag football. And I am sick of watching that pansie Tom Brady cry and whine to the Refs whenever a defender even acts like he wants to tackle him.
    I mean, did you see that disgusting temper tamtrum Brady threw on Sunday?
    Laying on the ground staring at the Ref while kicking his feet and pounding the turf just cause he got knocked down shortly after getting the pass off looked exactly like a spoiled toddler throwing a fit.
    Take the skirt off Brady. Giselle has bigger cahoongas than you.

  16. gameday says: Oct 19, 2010 5:02 PM

    Players today are too soft.
    Protecting QB’s like sissy boy Brady has taken away aggressiveness from the defenses.
    THIS IS TACKLE FOOTBALL PEOPLE!
    I don’t want to watch flag football. And I am sick of watching that pansie Tom Brady cry and whine to the Refs whenever a defender even acts like he wants to tackle him.
    I mean, did you see that disgusting temper tamtrum Brady threw on Sunday?
    Laying on the ground staring at the Ref while kicking his feet and pounding the turf just cause he got knocked down shortly after getting the pass off looked exactly like a spoiled toddler throwing a fit.
    Take the skirt off Brady. Giselle has bigger cahoongas than you.

  17. n0hopeleft says: Oct 19, 2010 5:03 PM

    footballhistorian says:
    October 19, 2010 4:39 PM
    Complete moron…you don’t have to headhunt to play tough and exciting football
    _______________________________
    Right.
    That’s why any player in the NFL Network’s “Top 100 players” that played in the 2ndary always hit with their head. Right, Mr. Football Historian? and you watched every bit of it. MORON.
    If you want to be a p**sy, go watch basketball.

  18. n0hopeleft says: Oct 19, 2010 5:03 PM

    footballhistorian says:
    October 19, 2010 4:39 PM
    Complete moron…you don’t have to headhunt to play tough and exciting football
    _______________________________
    Right.
    That’s why any player in the NFL Network’s “Top 100 players” that played in the 2ndary always hit with their head. Right, Mr. Football Historian? and you watched every bit of it. MORON.
    If you want to be a p**sy, go watch basketball.

  19. manderson says: Oct 19, 2010 5:06 PM

    The way it was meant to be played? With leather pads & helmets with no face mask? Go for it, dipstick.

  20. manderson says: Oct 19, 2010 5:06 PM

    The way it was meant to be played? With leather pads & helmets with no face mask? Go for it, dipstick.

  21. FinFan6886 says: Oct 19, 2010 5:06 PM

    These guys hit like that for a few different reasons:
    1) You don’t make the highlight reel for making technically sound tackles (seems to be a big deal to some of these morons)
    2) You can’t force a fumble just by grabbing a guy and stopping his forward progress
    3) Most of these “hitters” value their “reputation” more than money or even winning
    4) They have no idea how to make an actual tackle
    5) You can’t break up a pass play by letting the receiver catch the ball, land on his feet, and then signal that he is no longer defenseless and ready to absorb an arm tackle
    6) These hits are designed to have a psychological effect on the receiver…causing “alligator arms” or a lack of effort to catch the ball next time
    That being said, the NFL is notorious for knee-jerk reactions and poorly thought out policies. This is another of those. They are fining guys for legal hits just because the hits look “viscious”. I say the guys that intentionally try to hurt another player should be ejected and suspended for several games but proving intent is a bitch. Football is a high speed game of collisions and there will be injuries. Players move into and out of each other’s way in a split-second and sometimes unintended consequences happen. Outside of the FLAGRANT issues that are not even remotely arguable, fining or suspending the guys that are playing within the rules is like baseball ejecting the batter for a fan injured by a foul ball. Protect the players but do not change the concept of the game. These players are all VOLUNTEERS and get paid huge amounts of money because of the risk of injury.

  22. FinFan6886 says: Oct 19, 2010 5:06 PM

    These guys hit like that for a few different reasons:
    1) You don’t make the highlight reel for making technically sound tackles (seems to be a big deal to some of these morons)
    2) You can’t force a fumble just by grabbing a guy and stopping his forward progress
    3) Most of these “hitters” value their “reputation” more than money or even winning
    4) They have no idea how to make an actual tackle
    5) You can’t break up a pass play by letting the receiver catch the ball, land on his feet, and then signal that he is no longer defenseless and ready to absorb an arm tackle
    6) These hits are designed to have a psychological effect on the receiver…causing “alligator arms” or a lack of effort to catch the ball next time
    That being said, the NFL is notorious for knee-jerk reactions and poorly thought out policies. This is another of those. They are fining guys for legal hits just because the hits look “viscious”. I say the guys that intentionally try to hurt another player should be ejected and suspended for several games but proving intent is a bitch. Football is a high speed game of collisions and there will be injuries. Players move into and out of each other’s way in a split-second and sometimes unintended consequences happen. Outside of the FLAGRANT issues that are not even remotely arguable, fining or suspending the guys that are playing within the rules is like baseball ejecting the batter for a fan injured by a foul ball. Protect the players but do not change the concept of the game. These players are all VOLUNTEERS and get paid huge amounts of money because of the risk of injury.

  23. enders says: Oct 19, 2010 5:10 PM

    EVH12345 says: October 19, 2010 4:50 PM
    Hear Hear! “..you’re going to get a very, very tenative football game.”
    Great point by Antrel. Another thing I see is that these players make millions of dollars playing this game. While head injuries should be prevented, at what cost? Let them play the game they are paid to play with an intensity to match their salaries.
    ——————
    Its ok if they suffer a head injury due to one of these hits, even if it paralyzes them from the neck down, because they are making millions!
    Thats pretty much what you’re saying and its one of the stupidest things I’ve read.
    Antrel Rolle should line up as a WR for a game and let one of those big ass linebacks take his head off. Once he wakes up, and realizes he has no memory of what happened on Sunday, I doubt he’ll be opening his mouth about this again.

  24. enders says: Oct 19, 2010 5:10 PM

    EVH12345 says: October 19, 2010 4:50 PM
    Hear Hear! “..you’re going to get a very, very tenative football game.”
    Great point by Antrel. Another thing I see is that these players make millions of dollars playing this game. While head injuries should be prevented, at what cost? Let them play the game they are paid to play with an intensity to match their salaries.
    ——————
    Its ok if they suffer a head injury due to one of these hits, even if it paralyzes them from the neck down, because they are making millions!
    Thats pretty much what you’re saying and its one of the stupidest things I’ve read.
    Antrel Rolle should line up as a WR for a game and let one of those big ass linebacks take his head off. Once he wakes up, and realizes he has no memory of what happened on Sunday, I doubt he’ll be opening his mouth about this again.

  25. Neverend says: Oct 19, 2010 5:26 PM

    He’s right. How else did football replace baseball as america’s number one sport?
    The PHYSICALITY!
    With this issue and the lockout, the current era of NFL propserity will soon come to an end, unfortunately.

  26. Neverend says: Oct 19, 2010 5:26 PM

    He’s right. How else did football replace baseball as america’s number one sport?
    The PHYSICALITY!
    With this issue and the lockout, the current era of NFL propserity will soon come to an end, unfortunately.

  27. THEMIGHTYWHITEY says: Oct 19, 2010 5:30 PM

    footballhistorian must have never played tackle football …….these guys are playing a game they get paid very well to play ….do they know the dangers ? damn right they do …no one is forced to play this game ….tell Brady to give up his million dollar check and go pump gas or drive a bus …take any of these so called great teams of the last 2o years and let them play against the teams of the late 70s with the rules of the game then when it was great …..that was football …..not this soon to be watered down powered puff crap …they may want to keep the pink colors of the last few weeks in all the uniforms because the NFL will soon be the NPL ….National Pansy League
    somewhere Jack Tatum is rolling over in his grave…”yes Jack , they have ruined your game “

  28. THEMIGHTYWHITEY says: Oct 19, 2010 5:30 PM

    footballhistorian must have never played tackle football …….these guys are playing a game they get paid very well to play ….do they know the dangers ? damn right they do …no one is forced to play this game ….tell Brady to give up his million dollar check and go pump gas or drive a bus …take any of these so called great teams of the last 2o years and let them play against the teams of the late 70s with the rules of the game then when it was great …..that was football …..not this soon to be watered down powered puff crap …they may want to keep the pink colors of the last few weeks in all the uniforms because the NFL will soon be the NPL ….National Pansy League
    somewhere Jack Tatum is rolling over in his grave…”yes Jack , they have ruined your game “

  29. Testify says: Oct 19, 2010 5:32 PM

    man this is truly the no fun league…the ufl had a chance to start something…

  30. Testify says: Oct 19, 2010 5:32 PM

    man this is truly the no fun league…the ufl had a chance to start something…

  31. Tony says: Oct 19, 2010 5:39 PM

    Well said enders. Line him up against Lewis, Harrison, Dawkins and polamalu and then see how his viewpoint changes.

  32. Tony says: Oct 19, 2010 5:39 PM

    Well said enders. Line him up against Lewis, Harrison, Dawkins and polamalu and then see how his viewpoint changes.

  33. wferg1121 says: Oct 19, 2010 5:42 PM

    If you are running full speed and you lower your shoulder and suddenly the WR reacts by dropping his head and there is a helmet to helmet hit how can you fine someone or suspend someone for that, there is not enough time to react to this. Also if we are getting rid of “devastating hits”(according to Chris Mortenson) There will be no intimidating 85 bears, or 2000 Ravens, and the great steeler defense ever again.

  34. wferg1121 says: Oct 19, 2010 5:42 PM

    If you are running full speed and you lower your shoulder and suddenly the WR reacts by dropping his head and there is a helmet to helmet hit how can you fine someone or suspend someone for that, there is not enough time to react to this. Also if we are getting rid of “devastating hits”(according to Chris Mortenson) There will be no intimidating 85 bears, or 2000 Ravens, and the great steeler defense ever again.

  35. Mike Daly says: Oct 19, 2010 5:56 PM

    gameday, it isn’t Brady who’s the sissy, it’s guys like Peyton Manning, who had his GM bully the Competition Committee into hamstringing defenses more because the Colts couldn’t handle physical teams. Brady has taken as much of a beating as the likes of Steve McNair over the years and he’s kept on firing. Manning never gets hit, thanks in large part to fear of fines should someone actually hit him.

  36. Mike Daly says: Oct 19, 2010 5:56 PM

    gameday, it isn’t Brady who’s the sissy, it’s guys like Peyton Manning, who had his GM bully the Competition Committee into hamstringing defenses more because the Colts couldn’t handle physical teams. Brady has taken as much of a beating as the likes of Steve McNair over the years and he’s kept on firing. Manning never gets hit, thanks in large part to fear of fines should someone actually hit him.

  37. melikefootball says: Oct 19, 2010 6:03 PM

    Maybe now Goddel since he cares about the fans will reduce ticket prices since the type of game will be less. Scores of 100-99 since defense just lets them run and pass all day . Don’t hit the QB, don’t hit receiver and then don’t get the football dirty with my name on it. This is begining to sound like baseball.

  38. melikefootball says: Oct 19, 2010 6:03 PM

    Maybe now Goddel since he cares about the fans will reduce ticket prices since the type of game will be less. Scores of 100-99 since defense just lets them run and pass all day . Don’t hit the QB, don’t hit receiver and then don’t get the football dirty with my name on it. This is begining to sound like baseball.

  39. Raiders757 says: Oct 19, 2010 6:11 PM

    I can see Rolle’s point. The game is so fast these days, that it’s hard enough making a play, let alone having to worry about being suspended or fined for it. It’s one thing if it’s intentional and another if it’s an accident. Either way, big hits are part of the game, so you can’t expect defenders to sit back and play soft in a “What have you done for me lately” league.

  40. Raiders757 says: Oct 19, 2010 6:11 PM

    I can see Rolle’s point. The game is so fast these days, that it’s hard enough making a play, let alone having to worry about being suspended or fined for it. It’s one thing if it’s intentional and another if it’s an accident. Either way, big hits are part of the game, so you can’t expect defenders to sit back and play soft in a “What have you done for me lately” league.

  41. Mike Daly says: Oct 19, 2010 6:19 PM

    tinopuno – this era is far less dangerous than 25-plus years ago when there really was head-hunting. You need to trust the players’ toughness instead of pity them.

  42. Mike Daly says: Oct 19, 2010 6:19 PM

    tinopuno – this era is far less dangerous than 25-plus years ago when there really was head-hunting. You need to trust the players’ toughness instead of pity them.

  43. mansuetta says: Oct 19, 2010 6:19 PM

    We not talking about accidents here. You mean to tell me those helmet to helmet hits were accidents? They were headhunting! No reason you still can’t hit the player in the chest and level him – oh but wait that means he won’t have to get strapped to a stretcher and carted off the field. Guess he won’t get the point?
    I think the idea here is to not end a players career

  44. mansuetta says: Oct 19, 2010 6:19 PM

    We not talking about accidents here. You mean to tell me those helmet to helmet hits were accidents? They were headhunting! No reason you still can’t hit the player in the chest and level him – oh but wait that means he won’t have to get strapped to a stretcher and carted off the field. Guess he won’t get the point?
    I think the idea here is to not end a players career

  45. Rez Burna says: Oct 19, 2010 6:29 PM

    I’ve played football all my life, and this is stupid. If I was scared of injuries, I wouldn’t have played. If a NFL player is afraid to get hurt, then they don’t need to play. True enough, you’re taught to tackle with your head up from Pop Warner on up, but when momentum and adrenaline take over none of that is going through your thought processes. This game is all about reaction times.

  46. Rez Burna says: Oct 19, 2010 6:29 PM

    I’ve played football all my life, and this is stupid. If I was scared of injuries, I wouldn’t have played. If a NFL player is afraid to get hurt, then they don’t need to play. True enough, you’re taught to tackle with your head up from Pop Warner on up, but when momentum and adrenaline take over none of that is going through your thought processes. This game is all about reaction times.

  47. notwhoyouthinkitis says: Oct 19, 2010 6:52 PM

    Crabcake wrote: “offensive players should be held accountable for this also (Heinz Ward!)” (sic)
    Hines Ward blocks downfield. That’s perfectly legal, sport. And he never blocks with his helmet either. Get a clue.

  48. notwhoyouthinkitis says: Oct 19, 2010 6:52 PM

    Crabcake wrote: “offensive players should be held accountable for this also (Heinz Ward!)” (sic)
    Hines Ward blocks downfield. That’s perfectly legal, sport. And he never blocks with his helmet either. Get a clue.

  49. curtj5 says: Oct 19, 2010 7:07 PM

    I agree with this dude.
    No one is purposely trying to knock an offensive player out with a concussion.
    It’s the nature of the game, defensive backs often lead with their head to make tackles. Sometimes there is an unfortunate helmet-to-helmet collision.
    The more they try to protect players year in and year out the NFL inches towards flag football.
    It’s a complicated issue. Maybe players are getting bigger and faster and these hits are worse nowadays.

  50. curtj5 says: Oct 19, 2010 7:07 PM

    I agree with this dude.
    No one is purposely trying to knock an offensive player out with a concussion.
    It’s the nature of the game, defensive backs often lead with their head to make tackles. Sometimes there is an unfortunate helmet-to-helmet collision.
    The more they try to protect players year in and year out the NFL inches towards flag football.
    It’s a complicated issue. Maybe players are getting bigger and faster and these hits are worse nowadays.

  51. Punt Intended says: Oct 19, 2010 7:09 PM

    Tackle with your head up — then, when you strike the helmet of a player that’s a similar height you can get fined and/or suspended.

  52. Punt Intended says: Oct 19, 2010 7:09 PM

    Tackle with your head up — then, when you strike the helmet of a player that’s a similar height you can get fined and/or suspended.

  53. JETAMAN says: Oct 19, 2010 7:11 PM

    The NFL is ruining the game of FOOTBALL and pretty soon I will have no interest in. Hell at 51 I guess I could take up knitting or something— Oh wait —- Those needles are pretty pointy, to dangerous or maybe I could do it with my helmet on backwards to protect my eyes. Hell if the NFL was in charge of surfing there would be a six foot wave limit. If they ran boxing that would be it on punches to the head. Name a sport and the NFL could ruin it. Pro Football is dying, maybe a new league will pop up one day and play real pro football again, I used to just boycott the new start up leagues but now that the NFL has become a wussy game and league (no fault of the players) I look forward to real football again someday. Every freaking hit is questioned now, it’s just becoming impossible to watch this crap.

  54. JETAMAN says: Oct 19, 2010 7:11 PM

    The NFL is ruining the game of FOOTBALL and pretty soon I will have no interest in. Hell at 51 I guess I could take up knitting or something— Oh wait —- Those needles are pretty pointy, to dangerous or maybe I could do it with my helmet on backwards to protect my eyes. Hell if the NFL was in charge of surfing there would be a six foot wave limit. If they ran boxing that would be it on punches to the head. Name a sport and the NFL could ruin it. Pro Football is dying, maybe a new league will pop up one day and play real pro football again, I used to just boycott the new start up leagues but now that the NFL has become a wussy game and league (no fault of the players) I look forward to real football again someday. Every freaking hit is questioned now, it’s just becoming impossible to watch this crap.

  55. max says: Oct 19, 2010 7:16 PM

    This is the NFL, a business that operates for one purpose and one purpose alone: to earn money.
    So, regardless of how football “should” be, or what it’s “about,” the NFL is about money. And they are going to do whatever they feel is necessary to keep earning money. Naturally, they want to capitalize on the American appetite for violence and schadenfreude, but they also want to protect their expensive talent.
    Die hards and purists are not how the NFL makes the bulk of its money. They make it through kids who want to play, and the shit their parents buy for them on their way to discovering that, no, they are not professional athletes. Then the cycle begins anew. The more big stars staying healthy and in games, the more parents let their kids indulge in football activities and become disciples of the NFL, the better for their pockets. The game will always evolve to become more marketable and monetized, whatever that may entail for a given era.

  56. max says: Oct 19, 2010 7:16 PM

    This is the NFL, a business that operates for one purpose and one purpose alone: to earn money.
    So, regardless of how football “should” be, or what it’s “about,” the NFL is about money. And they are going to do whatever they feel is necessary to keep earning money. Naturally, they want to capitalize on the American appetite for violence and schadenfreude, but they also want to protect their expensive talent.
    Die hards and purists are not how the NFL makes the bulk of its money. They make it through kids who want to play, and the shit their parents buy for them on their way to discovering that, no, they are not professional athletes. Then the cycle begins anew. The more big stars staying healthy and in games, the more parents let their kids indulge in football activities and become disciples of the NFL, the better for their pockets. The game will always evolve to become more marketable and monetized, whatever that may entail for a given era.

  57. Blackn'Gold says: Oct 19, 2010 7:28 PM

    I’m in your corner Mr. Rolle. Unfortunately, Roger Goodell with his legion of sycophantic vice presidents and the networks only too willing to support whatever position he wants are against both of us.

  58. Blackn'Gold says: Oct 19, 2010 7:28 PM

    I’m in your corner Mr. Rolle. Unfortunately, Roger Goodell with his legion of sycophantic vice presidents and the networks only too willing to support whatever position he wants are against both of us.

  59. winwhenever says: Oct 19, 2010 7:45 PM

    enders and tony and whoever else just put out their opinion without considering or hearing out the realistic side of things,
    This is football. The NFL earns its money through toughness that players realize exists. Ask players in college, they know exactly what they are getting into because they realize a successful career in the NFL yields a great paycheck. Ask Desean, Cribbs, Shipley…these guys knew it was possible that as a receiver they would get their bells rung, but at the same time they are getting more than any of us could ever imagine. At the same time, ask Dunta, TJ Ward, even Merriweather or Harrison…they are or could be looked at as mean motherf’ers, but they realize delivering a hard hit can hurt them as well. Its why they play the game, and why we watch the game…
    And if you are going to protect the offense so much, at least consider the defense’s stance. One commenter brought up a point of an offensive player lowering his head, or an offensive player taking out a defensive player on a block. Its not what I want to say, but the NFL is clearly favoring the excitement of an offensive game. That standpoint doesn’t “let the team’s play” but rather alters or “fixes” the game, whether you like it or not.
    Lastly, I am all for player’s safety…but it has to consider intent. If an accidental hit occurs, let it be and make sure the teams give the right medical attention and if the NFL has to intervene on medical treatment, let it. But don’t let it intervene on the game. If a player clearly tries to hurt a player, by all means let the NFL punish. But don’t let the NFL punish the excitement that comes from the defensive side of the ball.
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  60. winwhenever says: Oct 19, 2010 7:45 PM

    enders and tony and whoever else just put out their opinion without considering or hearing out the realistic side of things,
    This is football. The NFL earns its money through toughness that players realize exists. Ask players in college, they know exactly what they are getting into because they realize a successful career in the NFL yields a great paycheck. Ask Desean, Cribbs, Shipley…these guys knew it was possible that as a receiver they would get their bells rung, but at the same time they are getting more than any of us could ever imagine. At the same time, ask Dunta, TJ Ward, even Merriweather or Harrison…they are or could be looked at as mean motherf’ers, but they realize delivering a hard hit can hurt them as well. Its why they play the game, and why we watch the game…
    And if you are going to protect the offense so much, at least consider the defense’s stance. One commenter brought up a point of an offensive player lowering his head, or an offensive player taking out a defensive player on a block. Its not what I want to say, but the NFL is clearly favoring the excitement of an offensive game. That standpoint doesn’t “let the team’s play” but rather alters or “fixes” the game, whether you like it or not.
    Lastly, I am all for player’s safety…but it has to consider intent. If an accidental hit occurs, let it be and make sure the teams give the right medical attention and if the NFL has to intervene on medical treatment, let it. But don’t let it intervene on the game. If a player clearly tries to hurt a player, by all means let the NFL punish. But don’t let the NFL punish the excitement that comes from the defensive side of the ball.
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  61. Burns41 says: Oct 19, 2010 8:20 PM

    Taking the hitting out of football should set the stage for such greats as Bobby Carpenter to make a return to the league.
    Maybe we could introduce flopping as well?

  62. Burns41 says: Oct 19, 2010 8:20 PM

    Taking the hitting out of football should set the stage for such greats as Bobby Carpenter to make a return to the league.
    Maybe we could introduce flopping as well?

  63. Bwa Ha Ha says: Oct 19, 2010 8:36 PM

    No you douche
    They are saying that the illegal spearing will get you suspended instead of some lame fine.

  64. Bwa Ha Ha says: Oct 19, 2010 8:36 PM

    No you douche
    They are saying that the illegal spearing will get you suspended instead of some lame fine.

  65. Terry says: Oct 19, 2010 8:39 PM

    Rolle is an idiot. Doesn’t he realize this interview will be a subject if and when he has a helmet to helmet hit?

  66. Terry says: Oct 19, 2010 8:39 PM

    Rolle is an idiot. Doesn’t he realize this interview will be a subject if and when he has a helmet to helmet hit?

  67. Raiderfankirk says: Oct 19, 2010 8:40 PM

    Think he is right, it’s been played way worse in previous years. Why are we changing it more and more? I don’t like Stealers at all, but Harrison did’nt do anything wrong.C’mon man!

  68. Raiderfankirk says: Oct 19, 2010 8:40 PM

    Think he is right, it’s been played way worse in previous years. Why are we changing it more and more? I don’t like Stealers at all, but Harrison did’nt do anything wrong.C’mon man!

  69. Facts Domino says: Oct 19, 2010 8:43 PM

    Mike Daly,
    Manning’s flimsy? How ignorant can you be?
    Flimsy.. yeah… 95% of the players sit out the rest of the season with the foot injury Eli played through last year.
    Peyton has missed one play due to injury and that was a broken jaw. Neither have missed a start since they started their first game.
    Get a clue.

  70. Facts Domino says: Oct 19, 2010 8:43 PM

    Mike Daly,
    Manning’s flimsy? How ignorant can you be?
    Flimsy.. yeah… 95% of the players sit out the rest of the season with the foot injury Eli played through last year.
    Peyton has missed one play due to injury and that was a broken jaw. Neither have missed a start since they started their first game.
    Get a clue.

  71. bump says: Oct 19, 2010 8:58 PM

    enders says
    Great point by Antrel. Another thing I see is that these players make millions of dollars playing this game. While head injuries should be prevented, at what cost? Let them play the game they are paid to play with an intensity to match their salaries.
    I don’t think there’s many w/r that makes 20mil a year ,, I agree let them play ,, they make more in one game than I do for 3 years salary ,, hate to see them get hurt tho

  72. bump says: Oct 19, 2010 8:58 PM

    enders says
    Great point by Antrel. Another thing I see is that these players make millions of dollars playing this game. While head injuries should be prevented, at what cost? Let them play the game they are paid to play with an intensity to match their salaries.
    I don’t think there’s many w/r that makes 20mil a year ,, I agree let them play ,, they make more in one game than I do for 3 years salary ,, hate to see them get hurt tho

  73. HateSycophants says: Oct 19, 2010 9:04 PM

    @enders,
    You are a drama queen. How often does someone get paralyzed from the neck down, or get hit “by one of them big ass linebacks” and have no memory of the game? I guess for you guys who watch football as homo-erotica (gay porn) it doesn’t really matter if anyone gets hit, right? I mean, that’s not really why you’re watching the game, right?
    Pathetic.

  74. HateSycophants says: Oct 19, 2010 9:04 PM

    @enders,
    You are a drama queen. How often does someone get paralyzed from the neck down, or get hit “by one of them big ass linebacks” and have no memory of the game? I guess for you guys who watch football as homo-erotica (gay porn) it doesn’t really matter if anyone gets hit, right? I mean, that’s not really why you’re watching the game, right?
    Pathetic.

  75. cardinalshane says: Oct 19, 2010 9:05 PM

    Antrel Rolle is correct. Anyone that has played football at all knows that the most aggressive person wins. When people ease off a hit, that is when you get steamrolled and more likely injury yourself. The more appropriate way to address the problem would be to improve safety equipment (I wonder if there is any connect to the way players wear their helmets now? It seems someones helmet comes off on every play.) As for those who say Antrel should try offense, you should probably have watched the Cardinals play the past few years. Antrel played receiver and QB quite a few times…I am pretty sure he has taken a hit before.

  76. cardinalshane says: Oct 19, 2010 9:05 PM

    Antrel Rolle is correct. Anyone that has played football at all knows that the most aggressive person wins. When people ease off a hit, that is when you get steamrolled and more likely injury yourself. The more appropriate way to address the problem would be to improve safety equipment (I wonder if there is any connect to the way players wear their helmets now? It seems someones helmet comes off on every play.) As for those who say Antrel should try offense, you should probably have watched the Cardinals play the past few years. Antrel played receiver and QB quite a few times…I am pretty sure he has taken a hit before.

  77. slizz says: Oct 19, 2010 9:26 PM

    this…coming from a guy who shys away from contact?
    puhlease…

  78. slizz says: Oct 19, 2010 9:26 PM

    this…coming from a guy who shys away from contact?
    puhlease…

  79. conníe says: Oct 19, 2010 9:52 PM

    It’s all beginning to make sense.
    First we dress them all in pink, and then…

  80. conníe says: Oct 19, 2010 9:52 PM

    It’s all beginning to make sense.
    First we dress them all in pink, and then…

  81. Terrell Blowens says: Oct 19, 2010 9:57 PM

    The main point of these defensive penalties is not to protect the players. If Goodell and the owners cared so much about “protecting the players” they wouldn’t be pushing an 18 game season. The real reason they penalize these hits is because, like Antrel Rolle said, it makes defense more tentative. Granted, Rolle is a moron, and helmet to helmet hits are extremely dangerous. But the point is, when the D is tentative, offense scores more points. High-scoring games get higher ratings than defensive showdowns. So the NFL is essentially trying to make more money off of these games by penalizing the defense and making every game a touchdown-fest. Player safety is important, but that’s not the reason the league is pushing these rules. It’s all about the $$$.

  82. Terrell Blowens says: Oct 19, 2010 9:57 PM

    The main point of these defensive penalties is not to protect the players. If Goodell and the owners cared so much about “protecting the players” they wouldn’t be pushing an 18 game season. The real reason they penalize these hits is because, like Antrel Rolle said, it makes defense more tentative. Granted, Rolle is a moron, and helmet to helmet hits are extremely dangerous. But the point is, when the D is tentative, offense scores more points. High-scoring games get higher ratings than defensive showdowns. So the NFL is essentially trying to make more money off of these games by penalizing the defense and making every game a touchdown-fest. Player safety is important, but that’s not the reason the league is pushing these rules. It’s all about the $$$.

  83. CowboysFansAreAllBandwagonFans says: Oct 19, 2010 10:08 PM

    You people who think the NFL is going soft because of this crack me up.
    They aren’t trying to take away hitting.. they are trying to take away one.. yes.. ONE specific type of hitting.. where you lead with your head and make helmet to helmet contact or use your helmet as a spear. That’s it. Essentially, they aren’t saying you can’t knock someone into next week with a shoulder to body tackle. They aren’t saying you can’t demolish a person with a great shot to the ribs. They are just trying to protect the head.
    Seems like a few of you have been hit too many times in the head yourselves.

  84. CowboysFansAreAllBandwagonFans says: Oct 19, 2010 10:08 PM

    You people who think the NFL is going soft because of this crack me up.
    They aren’t trying to take away hitting.. they are trying to take away one.. yes.. ONE specific type of hitting.. where you lead with your head and make helmet to helmet contact or use your helmet as a spear. That’s it. Essentially, they aren’t saying you can’t knock someone into next week with a shoulder to body tackle. They aren’t saying you can’t demolish a person with a great shot to the ribs. They are just trying to protect the head.
    Seems like a few of you have been hit too many times in the head yourselves.

  85. bdinphoenix says: Oct 19, 2010 10:36 PM

    Antrelle fails to understand the league is trying to keep the players from killing themselves, either in a game or years after they retire. The league also does not want the spectacle of its customers seeing one of its players lying on the field dead after one of these helmet to helmet hits. If Rolle and other defensive players would learn to tackle instead of having collisions this might not be as big an issue.

  86. bdinphoenix says: Oct 19, 2010 10:36 PM

    Antrelle fails to understand the league is trying to keep the players from killing themselves, either in a game or years after they retire. The league also does not want the spectacle of its customers seeing one of its players lying on the field dead after one of these helmet to helmet hits. If Rolle and other defensive players would learn to tackle instead of having collisions this might not be as big an issue.

  87. Wonka 2 says: Oct 19, 2010 10:45 PM

    Role is right. O-linemen lead with their heads when drive run blocking. RB’s lead with their head when trying to bust through tackles.
    If a defender leads with his head, it is a penalty. Dumb and unfair!

  88. Wonka 2 says: Oct 19, 2010 10:45 PM

    Role is right. O-linemen lead with their heads when drive run blocking. RB’s lead with their head when trying to bust through tackles.
    If a defender leads with his head, it is a penalty. Dumb and unfair!

  89. Saints-America'sTeam says: Oct 19, 2010 11:36 PM

    Come on, man! Are you pro head shot people serious?! You think it’ll ruin the game if the existing rule about helmet to helmet contact is enforced? Try not to be idiots for a second and look at the stats. Since they started enforcing the defenseless-player rule and the protect-the-QB rule the NFL has experienced unprecedented viewership and sales.
    Football has never been more popular and it’s not popular because of the brutality. It’s popular for many other reasons some having to do with how communities have rallied around their team in a sort of solidarity. No one is ruining the game, just trying to protect a bunch of head-bangers who just don’t know better.
    The NFL is actually trying to get out ahead of this. Someone WILL be killed. Then what? Then will you say, “Well, that’s what they get paid for”. Really? Really? IT’S A GAME, you morons. If that’s why you watch football, then perhaps you should start a league of men in tunics playing ball with cow heads. The losing team could be killed.
    I don’t watch football for the barbarism. I watch it for the complicated strategies. I enjoy watching skilled athletes play a game with prowess. And I want to see them play another day even if they’re too stupid to know that they need to be protected.

  90. Saints-America'sTeam says: Oct 19, 2010 11:36 PM

    Come on, man! Are you pro head shot people serious?! You think it’ll ruin the game if the existing rule about helmet to helmet contact is enforced? Try not to be idiots for a second and look at the stats. Since they started enforcing the defenseless-player rule and the protect-the-QB rule the NFL has experienced unprecedented viewership and sales.
    Football has never been more popular and it’s not popular because of the brutality. It’s popular for many other reasons some having to do with how communities have rallied around their team in a sort of solidarity. No one is ruining the game, just trying to protect a bunch of head-bangers who just don’t know better.
    The NFL is actually trying to get out ahead of this. Someone WILL be killed. Then what? Then will you say, “Well, that’s what they get paid for”. Really? Really? IT’S A GAME, you morons. If that’s why you watch football, then perhaps you should start a league of men in tunics playing ball with cow heads. The losing team could be killed.
    I don’t watch football for the barbarism. I watch it for the complicated strategies. I enjoy watching skilled athletes play a game with prowess. And I want to see them play another day even if they’re too stupid to know that they need to be protected.

  91. razzy says: Oct 19, 2010 11:36 PM

    This rule is ridiculous. Anyone who thinks that ALL players that make helmet to helmet hits are doing it intentionally. No, it’s simply people flying around trying to make a tackle and yes sometimes it happens albeit intentional or not. These hits are going to happen, it’s a violent sport. Now let’s say that in 5 years from now you see defensive players getting concussed at a higher level because of timid play. Is that ok because they are no longer allowed to play at full speed because of the fear of being fined or suspended. What will happen then are we going to make this flag football because I know that the reason the N.F.L. is great is because of the high speed action that comes with the recklessness of peaople getting hit. If you never played football competitively then you wouldn’t understand, and people know the risk when they walk into the sport that injury is always a risk. Goodell and his people need to get over this whole protection policy he has going

  92. razzy says: Oct 19, 2010 11:36 PM

    This rule is ridiculous. Anyone who thinks that ALL players that make helmet to helmet hits are doing it intentionally. No, it’s simply people flying around trying to make a tackle and yes sometimes it happens albeit intentional or not. These hits are going to happen, it’s a violent sport. Now let’s say that in 5 years from now you see defensive players getting concussed at a higher level because of timid play. Is that ok because they are no longer allowed to play at full speed because of the fear of being fined or suspended. What will happen then are we going to make this flag football because I know that the reason the N.F.L. is great is because of the high speed action that comes with the recklessness of peaople getting hit. If you never played football competitively then you wouldn’t understand, and people know the risk when they walk into the sport that injury is always a risk. Goodell and his people need to get over this whole protection policy he has going

  93. Woody Paige says: Oct 19, 2010 11:53 PM

    Anyone who thinks Rolle is a moron is a bafoon. Realize for one moment that he plays in the NFL not you, and has an idea how to play and what’s necessary to play good defense. You think telling the offense to go full speed but not the defense makes sense? Half of the reason a player receives a knockout hit is because his quarterback put him in the position.

  94. thebigtattler says: Oct 20, 2010 12:00 AM

    The biggest problem is a defenseless receiver concentrating on catching the ball while
    a predator defender is waiting to make that big hit coming in the opposite direction.
    You should have to wait to determine possession by a receiver before your can attempt to hit him if
    he he heading IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE DEFENDER’S approach.
    Meaning if the receiver touches the ball your can grab or hit him from behind or the side, but you cannot hit him with any part of your body if he is coming directly at you until he has possession of the ball.
    To tackle a man,
    he must have possession of the ball.
    This is turning into the TFL.
    Thug Football League.
    You can still hit and keep it clean.
    I don’t want my favorite fantasy football WR or TE hurt.
    [After I get rid of him… I don’t care if you cart him off in a hearse….forget the John Deere Gator].

  95. thebigtattler says: Oct 20, 2010 12:02 AM

    Mike Webster was a center for the Steelers.
    I smell something wrong with these posts.
    DUCK !

  96. thebigtattler says: Oct 20, 2010 12:02 AM

    Mike Webster was a center for the Steelers.
    I smell something wrong with these posts.
    DUCK !

  97. Mike Daly says: Oct 20, 2010 12:21 AM

    razzy makes great points. Saints America’s Team is flat wrong – we’re not going to see anyone die in an NFL game because the players are well protected (contrary to the impression given by this controversy) and they’re a lot stronger than that.

  98. Mike Daly says: Oct 20, 2010 12:21 AM

    razzy makes great points. Saints America’s Team is flat wrong – we’re not going to see anyone die in an NFL game because the players are well protected (contrary to the impression given by this controversy) and they’re a lot stronger than that.

  99. The Wolverine says: Oct 20, 2010 12:30 AM

    Goodell and compnay are ruining this wonderful game!!!! This is a very very violent sport people. It is controlled violence. Tell me, how can we expect the game of football to have the hard hitting castrated from the art of the hit? One cannot take the aggression from the game via threatening players with suspenions. The game must be changed from within. The essence of the game must be changed not with superfacial penalties. The NFL is being ruined by refs and the policy makers. Lets hope Joe Theismanns new league makes the rules suitable for super smash mouth football. We are not watching Golf.

  100. The Wolverine says: Oct 20, 2010 12:30 AM

    Goodell and compnay are ruining this wonderful game!!!! This is a very very violent sport people. It is controlled violence. Tell me, how can we expect the game of football to have the hard hitting castrated from the art of the hit? One cannot take the aggression from the game via threatening players with suspenions. The game must be changed from within. The essence of the game must be changed not with superfacial penalties. The NFL is being ruined by refs and the policy makers. Lets hope Joe Theismanns new league makes the rules suitable for super smash mouth football. We are not watching Golf.

  101. BennyBlanco says: Oct 20, 2010 1:23 AM

    2 Words
    Safer Helmet
    All this penalty movie should go to R&D for better equipment… if the athlete’s are bigger/faster, why can’t the gear be the same?

  102. BennyBlanco says: Oct 20, 2010 1:23 AM

    2 Words
    Safer Helmet
    All this penalty movie should go to R&D for better equipment… if the athlete’s are bigger/faster, why can’t the gear be the same?

  103. Eddie Drycleaner says: Oct 20, 2010 3:13 AM

    One of the softest safeties in the league talking about physical play and its a semi national story… child please.
    Next time Antrell Rolle makes an intentional hard hit will be the first. Dude’s a talented ball hawk and a threat with the ball in an open field. but come on…
    Does anyone watch football anymore or is it just highlights and fantasy garbage? WATCH THE F’N GAME! get sunday ticket, a big screen(or three) a HD dvr (or three) and you’ll be better equipped to laugh at ANTRELL FREAKING ROLLE talking about physical play…
    Jesus Christ…

  104. Eddie Drycleaner says: Oct 20, 2010 3:13 AM

    One of the softest safeties in the league talking about physical play and its a semi national story… child please.
    Next time Antrell Rolle makes an intentional hard hit will be the first. Dude’s a talented ball hawk and a threat with the ball in an open field. but come on…
    Does anyone watch football anymore or is it just highlights and fantasy garbage? WATCH THE F’N GAME! get sunday ticket, a big screen(or three) a HD dvr (or three) and you’ll be better equipped to laugh at ANTRELL FREAKING ROLLE talking about physical play…
    Jesus Christ…

  105. We need linemen says: Oct 20, 2010 7:07 AM

    For all those saying that removing the head shots will make the game less physical, you’re getting it the wrong way round.
    Head shots are the cowards way out. Making people tackle properly, to physically stop and reverse the momentum of another player will make the game more physical, not less.
    Going helmet to helment, rather than tackling another player is like winning a boxing match by shooting your opponent in the head. It’s effective, but it is cheap. It wins the bout but not the physical confrontation. Hitting high is effective because it not only strikes a vulnerable area but also reduces the energy the defender has to absorb. I say make the defenders have to stop their opponents through superior power and technique rather taking the easy route of knocking them unconcious.
    The same applies to cut blocking. The offense shouldn’t be allowed to slow down defenders by making avoid deliberate attempts to smash their knees. If you’re too small to block your man, then you should get run over. You shouldn’t have the option to avoid the physical confrontation by taking a cheap shot at the defender’s knees.

  106. We need linemen says: Oct 20, 2010 7:07 AM

    For all those saying that removing the head shots will make the game less physical, you’re getting it the wrong way round.
    Head shots are the cowards way out. Making people tackle properly, to physically stop and reverse the momentum of another player will make the game more physical, not less.
    Going helmet to helment, rather than tackling another player is like winning a boxing match by shooting your opponent in the head. It’s effective, but it is cheap. It wins the bout but not the physical confrontation. Hitting high is effective because it not only strikes a vulnerable area but also reduces the energy the defender has to absorb. I say make the defenders have to stop their opponents through superior power and technique rather taking the easy route of knocking them unconcious.
    The same applies to cut blocking. The offense shouldn’t be allowed to slow down defenders by making avoid deliberate attempts to smash their knees. If you’re too small to block your man, then you should get run over. You shouldn’t have the option to avoid the physical confrontation by taking a cheap shot at the defender’s knees.

  107. Munze Konza says: Oct 20, 2010 7:57 AM

    He has a point. When you are flyoing in to make a hit an dthe offensive players ducks down, how can it be your fault if you are now at helmet to helmet level. You weren’t when you started, only after the ofensive player ducked down.

  108. Munze Konza says: Oct 20, 2010 7:57 AM

    He has a point. When you are flyoing in to make a hit an dthe offensive players ducks down, how can it be your fault if you are now at helmet to helmet level. You weren’t when you started, only after the ofensive player ducked down.

  109. letsgobroncos says: Oct 20, 2010 8:31 AM

    This is football, not tennis. Let the players decide if they want a rule change. You can’t control how a hit will happen with all the speed and power involved. Its impossible, just wait until a player gets suspended and it costs a team a playoff spot! How do you control the Robinson hit? Jackson had the ball,do you just stop and not hit him at all? Do you slow down so jackson can put his should to your face and knock you out? THIS IS THE NFL.

  110. letsgobroncos says: Oct 20, 2010 8:31 AM

    This is football, not tennis. Let the players decide if they want a rule change. You can’t control how a hit will happen with all the speed and power involved. Its impossible, just wait until a player gets suspended and it costs a team a playoff spot! How do you control the Robinson hit? Jackson had the ball,do you just stop and not hit him at all? Do you slow down so jackson can put his should to your face and knock you out? THIS IS THE NFL.

  111. Romad says: Oct 20, 2010 9:16 AM

    He’s right. Instead of changing what the game is, fundamentally, they should keep trying to improve the equipment and stop trying to fundamentally change the game. Football is gladitorial and great because of the violence. Personally, I love old fashioned, low scoring, hard hitting defensive battles. Want to protect your quarterback and receivers? Run the ball.

  112. Romad says: Oct 20, 2010 9:16 AM

    He’s right. Instead of changing what the game is, fundamentally, they should keep trying to improve the equipment and stop trying to fundamentally change the game. Football is gladitorial and great because of the violence. Personally, I love old fashioned, low scoring, hard hitting defensive battles. Want to protect your quarterback and receivers? Run the ball.

  113. beretta96 says: Oct 20, 2010 9:16 AM

    Helmet to helmet hits are inevitable. Those hits rarely ever result in a concussion. I’m a Pats fan and I thought the meriweather hit was disgusting. That is headhunting. The second hit by Harrison was headhunting. The collision between Robinson and Jackson, from the slow motion plays on youtube it’s quite obvious that Robinson led with his shoulder first but Jackson compressed his body to absorb and put his head at the same level. Accident!
    Rules should be enforced for spearing and headhunting but in the same token, it cannot be used to give an unfair advantage like it is now.
    This headhunting crap is why I can’t stand hockey. I haven’t watched a hockey game in about 15 years because of the bull#$%^ fighting! You want to stop fights, get the police involved. It’s not part of the sport and never was.
    Headhunters, fine and suspension for first offence and goes up from there with eventual dismissal of the league.
    But as was pointed out, it’s all about marketing isn’t it!

  114. beretta96 says: Oct 20, 2010 9:16 AM

    Helmet to helmet hits are inevitable. Those hits rarely ever result in a concussion. I’m a Pats fan and I thought the meriweather hit was disgusting. That is headhunting. The second hit by Harrison was headhunting. The collision between Robinson and Jackson, from the slow motion plays on youtube it’s quite obvious that Robinson led with his shoulder first but Jackson compressed his body to absorb and put his head at the same level. Accident!
    Rules should be enforced for spearing and headhunting but in the same token, it cannot be used to give an unfair advantage like it is now.
    This headhunting crap is why I can’t stand hockey. I haven’t watched a hockey game in about 15 years because of the bull#$%^ fighting! You want to stop fights, get the police involved. It’s not part of the sport and never was.
    Headhunters, fine and suspension for first offence and goes up from there with eventual dismissal of the league.
    But as was pointed out, it’s all about marketing isn’t it!

  115. kickinitoleschool says: Oct 20, 2010 9:34 AM

    How many of you have actually played football on a high level? College? Semi-Pro?
    It is much more difficult to “keep your head up” than it looks. From day one of football you are taught to put your helmet on the ball when making a tackle in hopes of getting the offensive ball carrier to drop the ball. Yes this is much different than leading w/ your helmet…but at the same time…things happen.
    The Pats/Ravens game…yes that hit deserves a fine…he clearly narrowed his body to lead with his helmet…I am not defending that hit. Harrison…eh maybe…but the problem was Massaqoi (however you spell his name) lowered his body to brace himself for the hit…which made it seem more of a helmet shot than what it was. If the receiver did not brace his body for impact Harrison would have clearly hit him in the chest. The hit on cribs can be negotiated either way. I feel that Harrison did lead w/ his helmet and could have easily “wrapped” him up just as much as make a helmet to helmet contact.
    Dunta Robinson by no means was trying to give a head shot and/or injure anyone on the play. But what is the job of a defender?? So you are telling me lbs that make a living crushing someone (not intentionally trying to hurt them) have to slow down and hold back in fear of getting a harsh punishment?…no way…
    They already give advantages to the offense as it is ie: there is an offensive holding on almost every play that is not called, offensive receivers are allowed to push off and rarely any offensive pi’s are called…not to mention receivers can run ‘picks’ to free up other receivers…what the hell else you want to do…is this practice where all the receivers and qbs have on red jerseys?

  116. kickinitoleschool says: Oct 20, 2010 9:34 AM

    How many of you have actually played football on a high level? College? Semi-Pro?
    It is much more difficult to “keep your head up” than it looks. From day one of football you are taught to put your helmet on the ball when making a tackle in hopes of getting the offensive ball carrier to drop the ball. Yes this is much different than leading w/ your helmet…but at the same time…things happen.
    The Pats/Ravens game…yes that hit deserves a fine…he clearly narrowed his body to lead with his helmet…I am not defending that hit. Harrison…eh maybe…but the problem was Massaqoi (however you spell his name) lowered his body to brace himself for the hit…which made it seem more of a helmet shot than what it was. If the receiver did not brace his body for impact Harrison would have clearly hit him in the chest. The hit on cribs can be negotiated either way. I feel that Harrison did lead w/ his helmet and could have easily “wrapped” him up just as much as make a helmet to helmet contact.
    Dunta Robinson by no means was trying to give a head shot and/or injure anyone on the play. But what is the job of a defender?? So you are telling me lbs that make a living crushing someone (not intentionally trying to hurt them) have to slow down and hold back in fear of getting a harsh punishment?…no way…
    They already give advantages to the offense as it is ie: there is an offensive holding on almost every play that is not called, offensive receivers are allowed to push off and rarely any offensive pi’s are called…not to mention receivers can run ‘picks’ to free up other receivers…what the hell else you want to do…is this practice where all the receivers and qbs have on red jerseys?

  117. longestlegs says: Oct 20, 2010 9:39 AM

    The NFL isn’t ruining anything, nothing has changed, nothing will change. Players will still play the way they do, they’ll just be more careful to tackle legally.
    Every other workplace has safety regulations to protect the welfare of their employees, why not the NFL? Saying,”They know the risks…its been happening forever,” is a total cop out. Its akin to saying,”Those coal miners knew the risk of deadly fumes due to lack of ventilation. F’em, we’re not going to change anything because hey, that’s just the way it is! Tough deal brain damage boy!”
    Or,”Those children working 100 hour weeks in textile mills in the 1920’s knew what they were getting into. Sorry. Nothing should or can change.”
    Yeah they choose to play the game, that doesn’t mean their employeer shouldn’t have their best interests at heart. Even if that isn’t truly the case.
    And I haven’t heard a single audio clip from an offensive player that supports what the league is trying to do.

  118. longestlegs says: Oct 20, 2010 9:39 AM

    The NFL isn’t ruining anything, nothing has changed, nothing will change. Players will still play the way they do, they’ll just be more careful to tackle legally.
    Every other workplace has safety regulations to protect the welfare of their employees, why not the NFL? Saying,”They know the risks…its been happening forever,” is a total cop out. Its akin to saying,”Those coal miners knew the risk of deadly fumes due to lack of ventilation. F’em, we’re not going to change anything because hey, that’s just the way it is! Tough deal brain damage boy!”
    Or,”Those children working 100 hour weeks in textile mills in the 1920’s knew what they were getting into. Sorry. Nothing should or can change.”
    Yeah they choose to play the game, that doesn’t mean their employeer shouldn’t have their best interests at heart. Even if that isn’t truly the case.
    And I haven’t heard a single audio clip from an offensive player that supports what the league is trying to do.

  119. Mike says: Oct 20, 2010 9:43 AM

    Couldn’t agree with him more. The more they restrict the game, the more it will slow it down and make it less exciting to watch. Some of those big hits are what gets fans watching in the first place. Let them play.
    While you’re at it, let them have endzone celebrations again. I’m tired of the NFL, No Fun League, taking the entertainment out of the games. I miss Chad Johnson’s weekly celebrations.

  120. Mike says: Oct 20, 2010 9:43 AM

    Couldn’t agree with him more. The more they restrict the game, the more it will slow it down and make it less exciting to watch. Some of those big hits are what gets fans watching in the first place. Let them play.
    While you’re at it, let them have endzone celebrations again. I’m tired of the NFL, No Fun League, taking the entertainment out of the games. I miss Chad Johnson’s weekly celebrations.

  121. TS says: Oct 20, 2010 10:03 AM

    Make it simple; NO CONTACT TO THE HEAD,period. Helmet to helmet, shoulder to helmet, forearm to helmet. If that doesn’t work then take their freaking helmets off and play it like rugby!
    TS

  122. TS says: Oct 20, 2010 10:03 AM

    Make it simple; NO CONTACT TO THE HEAD,period. Helmet to helmet, shoulder to helmet, forearm to helmet. If that doesn’t work then take their freaking helmets off and play it like rugby!
    TS

  123. Saints-America'sTeam says: Oct 20, 2010 11:12 AM

    Well Mike Daly I guess you are so smart (and clairvoyant too) that you KNOW no one will be killed playing this game. “We’re not going to see anyone die in an NFL game because the players are well protected (contrary to the impression given by this controversy) and they’re a lot stronger than that”. Do you not see the increased velocity of these hits? Do you think those head shots that are maiming them now won’t some day kill someone?
    No, Mike Daly, and those who believe this game should be played with debilitating hits because of your video game brain numbing understanding of the game of football, you are outnumbered (thank goodness) by people who don’t NEED to see this.
    We just want to see a well played game by superb athletes with intelligence (you folks ever hear of that), who outplay their opponents.
    It has been made clear to coaches all over the league that the days of football players who can’t spell their team name are over. Players have to be smart and quick to learn as well as be in superb condition. THAT is why I watch football. I love to see Manning or Brees change the play at the line of scrimmage, then watch the defense move their “pieces” as quickly as possible to counter that move. I love this. I love to see Jon Vilma direct his defensive “pieces” as he sees something in an offense that he believes can be met with resistance. I just love the game.
    As I said in my first post, you people who don’t like the players to be protected by existing rules need to find another game. Perhaps fighting with lions in a ring is more your game. I believe you can work in some stoning to that game that you may enjoy.

  124. Saints-America'sTeam says: Oct 20, 2010 11:12 AM

    Well Mike Daly I guess you are so smart (and clairvoyant too) that you KNOW no one will be killed playing this game. “We’re not going to see anyone die in an NFL game because the players are well protected (contrary to the impression given by this controversy) and they’re a lot stronger than that”. Do you not see the increased velocity of these hits? Do you think those head shots that are maiming them now won’t some day kill someone?
    No, Mike Daly, and those who believe this game should be played with debilitating hits because of your video game brain numbing understanding of the game of football, you are outnumbered (thank goodness) by people who don’t NEED to see this.
    We just want to see a well played game by superb athletes with intelligence (you folks ever hear of that), who outplay their opponents.
    It has been made clear to coaches all over the league that the days of football players who can’t spell their team name are over. Players have to be smart and quick to learn as well as be in superb condition. THAT is why I watch football. I love to see Manning or Brees change the play at the line of scrimmage, then watch the defense move their “pieces” as quickly as possible to counter that move. I love this. I love to see Jon Vilma direct his defensive “pieces” as he sees something in an offense that he believes can be met with resistance. I just love the game.
    As I said in my first post, you people who don’t like the players to be protected by existing rules need to find another game. Perhaps fighting with lions in a ring is more your game. I believe you can work in some stoning to that game that you may enjoy.

  125. razzy says: Oct 20, 2010 2:20 PM

    Ok Saints-AT I understand that what you’re saying is watching the chess matches and the chemistry that happens to teams throughout an nfl game/season is why you watch. How about next year we put flags on and let peyton and drew just put on a show and see how long people will watch that sh**. I know I won’t I’d rather watch 6 yr olds playing flag football than that because at least 6 yr olds don’t have total control of their body and there might be a collision. Yes everyone loves the big offensive play, but the nfl was made great by the o-line, d-line and the rest of the defense playing the “smash mouth” style of football that is being taken away little by little every year. Pretty soon you will see two hand touch and lets see how interesting your love of the chess match really is

  126. razzy says: Oct 20, 2010 2:20 PM

    Ok Saints-AT I understand that what you’re saying is watching the chess matches and the chemistry that happens to teams throughout an nfl game/season is why you watch. How about next year we put flags on and let peyton and drew just put on a show and see how long people will watch that sh**. I know I won’t I’d rather watch 6 yr olds playing flag football than that because at least 6 yr olds don’t have total control of their body and there might be a collision. Yes everyone loves the big offensive play, but the nfl was made great by the o-line, d-line and the rest of the defense playing the “smash mouth” style of football that is being taken away little by little every year. Pretty soon you will see two hand touch and lets see how interesting your love of the chess match really is

  127. Saints-America'sTeam says: Oct 20, 2010 3:16 PM

    @razzy – I’m not trying to change YOUR mind. I already know where you stand on this issue. You and your ilk are one dimensional and only like it if someone gets hurt. You’re the same people who laugh when someone trips and falls in the work place or in the street. You enjoy it when others get hurt, even maimed and will only watch a game where they do (your words).
    News flash: “Smash mouth” football doesn’t mean hitting someone in the mouth. It means putting a face mask on the opposing teams chest, wrapping them up and driving through them. Yes, razzy, that’s a tackle. That’s legal and always was. Your reaction to the league beginning to make noise about enforcing a rule already on the books is immature. It’s what I would expect from the video-game culture that you came out of.
    The problem with the new enforcement of this rule is that legal hits may be fined. James Harrison, however, was a head-hunter last weekend and could have permanently maimed, and yes even killed, someone. But a hard hit led by a shoulder is legal and devastating enough without leading with a helmeted head.
    The game has to be made safer as the players get bigger and stronger. Start with better protective equipment. @razzy I know you don’t care about such things but kids are coming up wanting to play this game. They have to be trained to play it safely, not like a video game. In addition, the league has to provide better health care for current and retired athletes. These are issues that will improve the game and attract smarter and better athletes.
    I’m glad you head bangers are in the minority. It will be YOU who would ruin the GAME of football.

  128. Saints-America'sTeam says: Oct 20, 2010 3:16 PM

    @razzy – I’m not trying to change YOUR mind. I already know where you stand on this issue. You and your ilk are one dimensional and only like it if someone gets hurt. You’re the same people who laugh when someone trips and falls in the work place or in the street. You enjoy it when others get hurt, even maimed and will only watch a game where they do (your words).
    News flash: “Smash mouth” football doesn’t mean hitting someone in the mouth. It means putting a face mask on the opposing teams chest, wrapping them up and driving through them. Yes, razzy, that’s a tackle. That’s legal and always was. Your reaction to the league beginning to make noise about enforcing a rule already on the books is immature. It’s what I would expect from the video-game culture that you came out of.
    The problem with the new enforcement of this rule is that legal hits may be fined. James Harrison, however, was a head-hunter last weekend and could have permanently maimed, and yes even killed, someone. But a hard hit led by a shoulder is legal and devastating enough without leading with a helmeted head.
    The game has to be made safer as the players get bigger and stronger. Start with better protective equipment. @razzy I know you don’t care about such things but kids are coming up wanting to play this game. They have to be trained to play it safely, not like a video game. In addition, the league has to provide better health care for current and retired athletes. These are issues that will improve the game and attract smarter and better athletes.
    I’m glad you head bangers are in the minority. It will be YOU who would ruin the GAME of football.

  129. razzy says: Oct 20, 2010 4:22 PM

    ok now i didn’t say that i enjoy seeing people get maimed or possible killed but what i am saying is that football the way it was before this season is a game where you can’t always control helmet to helmet hits its the nature of the beast. Guys go out there for the big hit because that is what will slow an offense down. If you have a James Harrison in the middle of your defense recievers and TE’s aren’t coming across his path which makes the offense less effective (i.e. your chess match.) He is you king that can take anyone of your pieces out. Understand that football is a rough sport people get hurt it’s contact injury and yes even death could come from injury. Now let’s say one day someone catches a completely legal hit to the abdomen with someone’s shoulder and they suffer an episode from blunt force trauma and internal bleeding happens and that player passes. What would you the league do about that. All I’m saying is that many people on my side don’t enjoy football because of the injury factor. We enjoy it because of many of the fast paced reasons you do, but me playing “competitive” football from the age of 8-26 understands that this game sometimes you can’t help what happens to the guy you hit. It’s mostly reaction and sometimes you can catch a person in a way that might look intentional when it completely wasn’t and then all of a sudden you’re a head hunter and a thug and whatever else people want to say.

  130. razzy says: Oct 20, 2010 4:22 PM

    ok now i didn’t say that i enjoy seeing people get maimed or possible killed but what i am saying is that football the way it was before this season is a game where you can’t always control helmet to helmet hits its the nature of the beast. Guys go out there for the big hit because that is what will slow an offense down. If you have a James Harrison in the middle of your defense recievers and TE’s aren’t coming across his path which makes the offense less effective (i.e. your chess match.) He is you king that can take anyone of your pieces out. Understand that football is a rough sport people get hurt it’s contact injury and yes even death could come from injury. Now let’s say one day someone catches a completely legal hit to the abdomen with someone’s shoulder and they suffer an episode from blunt force trauma and internal bleeding happens and that player passes. What would you the league do about that. All I’m saying is that many people on my side don’t enjoy football because of the injury factor. We enjoy it because of many of the fast paced reasons you do, but me playing “competitive” football from the age of 8-26 understands that this game sometimes you can’t help what happens to the guy you hit. It’s mostly reaction and sometimes you can catch a person in a way that might look intentional when it completely wasn’t and then all of a sudden you’re a head hunter and a thug and whatever else people want to say.

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