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Lame Monday night game beats classic ALCS game in ratings

It’s almost like the NFL scheduled the Jaguars and Titans on Monday night just to rub it in Major League Baseball’s face.

Despite a 30-3 final score and a matchup of teams in low-rated markets, Monday Night Football still got better ratings than Game Three of the American Championship League Series between the Yankees (top television market) and Rangers (fifth-rated market.)

The final ratings (7.2-6.5) was a lot closer than the football score.  Both games were on cable, which kept the playing field even.

The football game had two backup quarterbacks in by halftime, while the baseball game was tight into the ninth inning and included an epic pitching performance by Cliff Lee.

There was a time in my life this would have surprised me.  Of course, there was also a time in my life I would have watched the last few innings of baseball instead of staying with the football game to see how Trent Edwards, Damian Williams, and Tiquan Underwood looked. 

I’m no longer surprised that so many of you feel the same way.  The NFL is a behemoth, somehow rapidly picking up viewers when everything else on television is just trying to slow down erosion.

The owners and the players can’t possibly screw this up, right?

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  1. wvugrad00 says: Oct 19, 2010 10:50 AM

    I know two football fans who were not watching the terrible NFL game

  2. TheDPR says: Oct 19, 2010 10:52 AM

    The game of football isn’t really any better entertainment-wise than it used to be. One of the big reasons for the ratings, IMO, is fantasy football.
    Sure, there are other fantasy sports but none of them are as interesting and popular as fantasy NFL football.
    Add to that the fact that everything else on TV gets worse and worse, and you have a ratings bonanza.

  3. Hauschild says: Oct 19, 2010 11:01 AM

    I think one of the reasons people attract to the NFL more than MLB is because the players pretty much earn their money. It’s more lunch-pail, blue-collar entertainment.

  4. NashvilleSeahawk says: Oct 19, 2010 11:13 AM

    Part of it is because there wasn’t lame and horrible broadcasters like Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison. MNF actually has guys that know how to break down the game and they don’t stutter and stammer to say nothing like Dungy.

  5. Testify says: Oct 19, 2010 11:20 AM

    they just did with this devastating hits crap

  6. wydok says: Oct 19, 2010 11:22 AM

    This is because the ALCS is lame, and the Yankees suck.
    Also, football is still more popular than baseball.

  7. Jeff says: Oct 19, 2010 11:23 AM

    At what point does Bud Selig realize that putting playoff games on TBS is not in the best interest of the game, no matter how much $$$ Turner throws their way.
    The casual sports fan turns on ESPN and sticks with a football game. The casual sports fan doesn’t turn on TBS to see if there happens to be playoff baseball instead of a rerun of Friends.

  8. rdp234 says: Oct 19, 2010 11:27 AM

    It was close. Had the game been on FOX it would have beaten the Monday Night NFL game. If it were a Game 6 or 7 it would have won. It’s very difficult to compare. There is no denying the numbers that the NFL does on TV, but it is a once a week sport and a lot of people plan their entire week around it. The MLB numbers are still very good and hold up very well in comparison to nearly anything else on TV sporting event wise. The numbers for the Yankees-Rangers beat the NBA semifinal numbers this season pretty handily. I don’t really see the need to compare. Obviously the NFL numbers are good, but it’s a very difficult comparison. MLB has the disadvantage of playing nearly every day for 7 months during the season. The NFL is once a week for about 5 months. It’s not really a fair comparison unless you’re talking about a Game 7 which people feel that they can’t miss. Even so, the numbers are very close.

  9. TorVikeFan says: Oct 19, 2010 11:28 AM

    That’s cuz baseball is boring.
    Most of the time, here’s what happens in a typical baseball game: The pitcher is scratching his genitals, or adjusting his pants, or shrugging his shoulder, or shaking his head at the catcher, or digging a hole in the dirt, or going through any number of inane and tiresome pre-pitch rituals. The catcher is squatting behind the plate giving hand signals from his crotch. The batter is meandering around home plate, or, if he actually stays put, he spends most of his time waving the bat around or kicking his own hole in the dirt. The in- and out-fielders are just standing there, looking around, waiting for something to happen. The dugouts are full of players and coaches with their eyes glazed-over from the boredom, eating sunflower seeds, or chewing tobacco, or spitting, or talking about the stock market or anything but baseball.
    Unlike football, basketball, hockey or soccer players, who have to have strength, endurance, quickness, agility, technique, etc. — that is, ATHLETIC skills — many baseball players are over-weight and out-of-shape. Look at David Wells, a pitcher who, until recently, was one of the top players in the game. Have you seen the gut on the guy? Wells (who would be trailer trash if he couldn’t throw a baseball) lives on beer and junk food (and it shows), but why shouldn’t he? He doesn’t really need to do anything that requires any true athletic skill.
    That’s why there’s so much emphasis on baseball statistics — to distract the fans from the ho-hum events on the field. One baseball fan might ask another: “Which switch-hitter had the most doubles in August during a strike-shortened season in replacement of the regular third baseman when hitting left-handed in night games?” I have a better, and more important, question: “Who cares?”

  10. MyronB says: Oct 19, 2010 11:29 AM

    I’m a huge football fan, but even I flipped to the baseball game permanently by halftime.
    I question the sanity of people who actually chose to watch that crappy MNF game over an exciting MLB playoff game.

  11. CliveRush says: Oct 19, 2010 11:31 AM

    Greed, yes greed can screw this up. Time to call the Masons and ole’ Ben to get the parties to agree. Please stop screwing the fans, we are running out of money.

  12. Bradwins says: Oct 19, 2010 11:34 AM

    I love football, but I love baseball even more. I just think its a little more cerebral. However, last night I was 60/40 in favor of the football game. Mostly that was because of the implication for my fantasy football league. But I did watch nearly every out recorded by Cliff Lee; I mostly watched football while Texas was at bat.
    Baseball REALLY screwed up by hiding the playoffs on TBS. Regardless of what the stations are offering, if you care about exposure at all you can’t put the games on TBS. You have to really care and go searching for that game. The casual fan does not normally click to TBS looking for sports, whereas ESPN is the first stop for sports fan channel surfing.
    ESPN is going to destroy TBS every time in a head to head. If the NFL was on TBS last night and the MLB playoffs were on ESPN then it may have been a different result.

  13. FlourideSoldOut says: Oct 19, 2010 11:36 AM

    What is this ALCS you keep referring to?
    Don’ you mean ACLs?

  14. rdp234 says: Oct 19, 2010 11:42 AM

    Of course, you get the usual “baseball is boring” comments from some idiot. A lot of us happen to think that football is boring actually. I think baseball is the most exicitng sport there is, especially Playoff Baseball. The numbers were very good and it’s stupid to compare. The NFL has its audience. It’s a once a week sport and people plan their week around it, but baseball is still doing very well.

  15. Madeira says: Oct 19, 2010 11:43 AM

    MLB is a joke. The best teams are the teams that are willing to pay the mercenary pitchers their ridiculous contracts. The smaller market teams are just farm teams. The players are boring, the managers are boring, the game is boring.

  16. rdp234 says: Oct 19, 2010 11:52 AM

    MLB is the best sport there is. The NFL is a joke. A bunch of criminals who would be in jail if they didn’t play football. The only reason the NFL gets the numbers it does is because it’s once a week. MLB is every day for 7 months. There is a big difference. MLB is still doing extremely well attendance wise and ratings wise. It is arguably as popular as ever and anyone who would compare the NFL which is played once a week to MLB which is every day for 7 months doesn’t know what they’re talking about. I’ll take MLB any day over the NFL and so would a lot of people.

  17. CapsLockKey says: Oct 19, 2010 11:58 AM

    Baseball sucks. The only people who care about it anymore are NY and Boston fans. The rest of us quit watching when they started buying championships and parity died. The turnover on rosters in that league each year makes it impossible to want to show any loyalty to a player or team. Unless of course you are a Yankee fan because you know they’ll actually keep their good players and any good players that hit the market you are going to end up getting.

  18. JSpicoli says: Oct 19, 2010 12:06 PM

    wydok –Don’t be so proud to be in the majority in America. Looka around you and look at most of the decisions made by “the majority”.
    Football is to Baseball as malt liquor is to fine wine. Just because the average idiot can understand and have their ADHD attention span held by football more than baseball does not reflect on the value or merit of the sport. Especially in the playoffs. If you don’t get it Florio, just pop your 40 open and go watch that MNF game.
    Britanny Spears sold more albums than Dusty Springfield. Who was a better singer?

  19. Jack Burton says: Oct 19, 2010 12:11 PM

    Why bother watching that dog crap game when you can keep up with your fantasy points via the Yahoo app? Makes no sense, at least there was something to watch seeing Lee stupify the Yanks.

  20. Dayton Dolfan says: Oct 19, 2010 12:16 PM

    there was a baseball game on last night?

  21. Dayton Dolfan says: Oct 19, 2010 12:21 PM

    put a cap on baseball team rosters, increase revenue sharing to create parity, and reduce the number of games per year, then maybe, maybe you will get a interesting sport. otherwise baseball is going to continue its demise. its only profitable becasue they have all that attendance for so many games.

  22. JSpicoli says: Oct 19, 2010 12:22 PM

    I find it funny when people are ignorant, AND brag about it.

  23. jersey73 says: Oct 19, 2010 12:22 PM

    Look at all the baseball apologists.
    I would say the chess match of calling offensive and defense plays in football is more cerebral than baseball.
    Calling football players criminals??? How many baseball players would even be in the United States if not for the sport. And should we compare arrest records of the players in the two sports.
    Attendance rates are up??? Please. Jacksonville is a pathetic market with bad attendance rates for games. But the crowd at a Jaguars game is light years better than any crowd at a Florida Marlins game or a Tampa Bay Rays game.
    The baseball apologists are like the boxing fans who attack UFC fans (of which I am not one of) because they are angry that people don’t watch boxing as much anymore.

  24. Dayton Dolfan says: Oct 19, 2010 12:23 PM

    rdp234 says:
    October 19, 2010 11:52 AM
    MLB is the best sport there is. The NFL is a joke. A bunch of criminals who would be in jail if they didn’t play football. The only reason the NFL gets the numbers it does is because it’s once a week. MLB is every day for 7 months. There is a big difference. MLB is still doing extremely well attendance wise and ratings wise. It is arguably as popular as ever and anyone who would compare the NFL which is played once a week to MLB which is every day for 7 months doesn’t know what they’re talking about. I’ll take MLB any day over the NFL and so would a lot of people.
    College baseball isn’t doing so well. not even on the same planet as college FB and BB. Why, cause the sport itself is boring to watch. MLB only stays afloat because of tradition. Can’t live on that forever, ask Notre Dame.

  25. FrankZappa says: Oct 19, 2010 12:26 PM

    im always happy to be on the other side of whatever most Amerikans are doing…considering how happy everybody in this country is to be part of a fascist police state, i think having the opposite opinion of most people in this country is a sign of mental stability and grace…

  26. John El Way III says: Oct 19, 2010 12:35 PM

    Football is to Baseball as malt liquor is to fine wine. Just because the average idiot can understand and have their ADHD attention span held by football more than baseball does not reflect on the value or merit of the sport.
    Football is far more complicated.

  27. FarmerMonkey says: Oct 19, 2010 12:35 PM

    I don’t understand the line of thought that baseball is more cerebral than football? You can’t possibly be implying that more strategy is utilized in baseball?
    It’s asinine to claim that the “average idiot” understands football, while baseball is beyond him. I’d say that the minority of NFL viewers, (myself included), really “understand” football. Playing ball for a few years in high school doesn’t begin to help you understand the plans and contingency plans taking place on every down.
    Baseball just doesn’t appeal to me. I used to be a Pirates fan back in the late 80s/early 90s, and I guess I quit caring when the Pirates started to suck around the same time as the baseball strike. I moved on to football and never looked back. It’s just a more interesting sport, IMO. More permutations of things can happen on a football down than a baseball pitch. And the play clock adds a sense of urgency to the game that baseball, unlike most other professional team sports, just doesn’t have.

  28. Lurch says: Oct 19, 2010 1:00 PM

    The Lords of Baseball have only themselves to blame.
    No salary cap … allow a couple of teams to have 200 million dollar payrolls while most of the other teams starve …
    And then celebrating their “tradition” if they happen to win. Their farm systems consist of buying the best players off all the other teams.
    Under these circumstances, winning the World Series is the least impressive championship in all of professional sports, and most amateur sports.
    No Thanks! I’ll take football. And, that’s where I’ll spend my money as well.
    Can’t wait until Sunday!

  29. JSpicoli says: Oct 19, 2010 1:05 PM

    Football is such a complex game. Listen to the average football player speak. Then listen to a MLB player, check the police blotter for each sport and tell me where the smarts are.
    Football is such a robustly contructed sport that they have to change the rules every year.

  30. wydok says: Oct 19, 2010 1:27 PM

    @JSpicoli:
    Perhaps you misunderstand. I dislike the American League, not all baseball. Although that strike in the 90′s didn’t help my attitude much in regards to baseball in general.
    I would also argue that making a good malt liquor can take as much skill as making a good wine.

  31. buzzbissinger says: Oct 19, 2010 1:27 PM

    Duh, bad football beats baseball hands down, any day of the week.

  32. jersey73 says: Oct 19, 2010 1:54 PM

    @JSpicoli
    Football simply evolves for a changing world and scientific realities. They don’t cling to the notion of being “purists” or “keeping in the human element”. Those are simply buzzwords for “STUBBORN”!!!
    Let’s look at baseball: Replay? Nah…who cares about getting things right. Helmet changes for safety? Players don’t like it. Drug testing? The union goes ballistic. Pine bats causing problems that ash wouldn’t? Tough luck we aren’t changing.

  33. Hayward G says: Oct 19, 2010 2:16 PM

    I live and breathe football from September thru the Super Bowl. That said, I watched probably less than 5 plays on MNF last night. No contest between which was better television, the MLB game was, all the way. As for the ratings? If the MLB game was on Fox, then I think MNF would have gotten clobbered. Think it’s a coincidence that we had two non-MLB-town teams playing during playof season?
    Regardless, I actually kind of feel sorry for the fans of sport who aren’t diversified enough to turn off an unwatchable abortion of a game for a much more intriguing, intense playoff game.
    Granted, I had zero stake in Tennessee or Jax, sentimentally or fantasy-wise, and like any selfrespecting New Englander hate the Yankees with every fiber of my being, so maybe that had something to do with it too.

  34. LunarPie says: Oct 19, 2010 2:37 PM

    Howie Long said it at his HOF induction, “Baseball is America’s Past-Time and Football is America’s Passion”!

  35. jdm says: Oct 19, 2010 3:43 PM

    Here is the reason why football rules the ratings. You’re all a bunch of sheep that watch just to think your relevant. Cuz football sucks vikingguy whatever. Baseball will still be around fifty years from now, while football will be outlawed, because all the players are brain damaged.

  36. edgy1957 says: Oct 19, 2010 4:06 PM

    # jersey73 says: October 19, 2010 12:22 PM
    Look at all the baseball apologists.
    Attendance rates are up??? Please. Jacksonville is a pathetic market with bad attendance rates for
    ****************
    What does attendance at a MLB game have to do with an NFL game? In the first place, there are 162 regular season games with 81 home games and plenty of opportunities for people to attend at least one game because they play games 7 days a week and – gasp – they get their biggest crowds on Friday, Saturday and Sunday or do you think it’s just a coincidence that the NFL plays most of its games on Sunday? Because of that, a MLB team would be down right STUPID to build an 80,000-90,000 seat stadium to fill it up because they know that it won’t happen. What they do is build them to fit a much smaller capacity and in the playoffs, they tend to get closer to that capacity. The Rays, whom you have blasted drew an average of more than 104% of their capacity for their 3 games during the playoffs while the Raiders have averaged just 6,000 fans more in a stadium that holds more than Tampa’s (Ironically, the smallest crowd in terms of capacity was the Yankees game against Texas, which was 94% capacity and the second worst was their game against Minnesota, which was 97%. So far, if you tally it up, you’ll find that MLB is well over 100% capacity for the playoffs).

  37. rdp234 says: Oct 19, 2010 4:18 PM

    Who cares? There are enough idiots in this country to make things like Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga popular. It’s no surprise that they flock to the NFL. Never overestimate the intelligence of the American public.

  38. rdp234 says: Oct 19, 2010 4:45 PM

    The baseball game still did a very good number. I don’t really see the reason to compare. If the game was on FOX it would have beaten the NFL game or if it was a Game 6 or 7. Game 3 was actually up from last year for TBS, so it was a very strong number. The NFL is played once a week, so people tune in to it. I don’t see why the need to compare it to football. The game still did a very good number and would have beaten it had it been on FOX or was a Game 6 or 7. Both games did very strong numbers. The MLB Playoffs still beat the NBA Playoffs. The game is doing fine.

  39. jersey73 says: Oct 19, 2010 5:09 PM

    @edgy1957
    Compare a regular season game in MLB on the weekend to a regular season NFL game on the weekend.

  40. granadafan says: Oct 19, 2010 6:18 PM

    This isn’t regular season baseball. It’s the playoffs, and it still gets dominated by football. That tells you all you need to know. The baseball purists are kidding themselves by trying to be elitists and thinking that baseball is more cerebral than football. Clearly your head is not on straight. I say this as an SF Giants fan too.

  41. edgy1957 says: Oct 19, 2010 6:46 PM

    # jersey73 says:
    @edgy1957
    *********************
    Wow, it’s like talking to a brick wall. If MLB shut itself down to 16 games on Sunday, you can bet that they’d get 95% or more capacity like the NFL. As it is, the BIG series are held on Friday, Saturday and Sunday or do you not know that? In addition to that, they also get their biggest crowds on the weekends. Oh, you might also consider that a guy can take his family to 3 games on the weekend and still not pay as much as he would for one NFL game and they don’t have to worry about the kids missing school like they would during the week, which is why attendance on during the work week isn’t as high.
    BTW, the Oakland Raiders, used to sell out and now, it’s not unusual for them to draw less than 40,000. Last year, they had 3 crowds that were below 40,000: 39,354, 34,112 and 38,400 AND one on the edge – 40,720 (Against their big rival, the Chiefs). Should this be seen as a reason to believe that NFL is losing popularity or just that their fans are tired of watching crap.

  42. Hattiesburg CrocShots says: Oct 19, 2010 7:19 PM

    rdp234 says:
    October 19, 2010 11:42 AM
    Of course, you get the usual “baseball is boring” comments from some idiot. A lot of us happen to think that football is boring actually. I think baseball is the most exicitng sport there is, especially Playoff Baseball. The numbers were very good and it’s stupid to compare. The NFL has its audience. It’s a once a week sport and people plan their week around it, but baseball is still doing very well.
    —————————————————
    So why are you here reading/posting on a football blog?

  43. jersey73 says: Oct 19, 2010 8:41 PM

    @edgy1957….I guess you’re pretty stupid too.
    The Florida Marlins for any particular game is lucky to have a thousand or so people at a game. So you’re going to compare 40,000 at a Raiders game to that???
    The fact is most regular season NFL games sell out and you are touting that a MLB playoff game selling out is great???
    I love your hypothetical situation. If baseball shut it down to 16 games. If grandma had balls she’d be grandpa. The fact is you don’t know what would happen to attendance if baseball had fewer games. By that rationale, football shouldn’t expand to 18 games because the additional home game on the schedule should reduce the attendance at each of the 9 home games.
    The fact of the matter is football is more popular. When a pre-season game gets higher ratings than a regular season Yankees-Red Sox game (which according to ESPN, the world lives and dies for that) on national television at the same time, MLB has a problem.

  44. edgy1957 says: Oct 19, 2010 11:09 PM

    jersey73 says: October 19, 2010 8:41 PM
    @edgy1957….I guess you’re pretty stupid too.
    The Florida Marlins for any particular game is lucky to have a thousand or so people at a game. So you’re going to compare 40,000 at a Raiders game to that???
    ***************************
    Really? You are a moron or else you’d have looked a few things up before you opened up your retarded mouth. Florida, whom you claim “is lucky to have a thousand or so people at a game” had their last series of the season against the Pirates (not exactly a world class draw) and the drew — wait for it – 23,000+, 25,000+ and — gasp — 31,000+ for that series and they averaged 18,000+ per contest. Now, I may not be the mathematical genius that claim to be but that would seem to be 60 games of 1,000 or so people in attendance in just 3 days… FOOL.
    Again, MLB doesn’t sell out every game because they have 81 home games and NOT 8 AND they don’t make their fans pay for exhibition games so that they can get regular season tickets.
    Again, you’re an idiot. You think that 2 games is going to compare? First off, it’s NOT 2 games, it’s 1. *IF* they go to 19 and *IF* Roger Goodell doesn’t get his World Domination tour, it’s going to be – 1 – extra home game AND it will come out of the exhibition season AND it would already would have been paid for like they always do and so it wouldn’t be any different. Now, if they added 10 more home games then you’d have a problem because NOW you’re talking about spending more money and it being a long season and many more boring games and the owners would have a harder time forcing people into buying games that they don’t want. That’s the big difference between MLB and the NFL. The Red Sox can force you to buy single game tickets to a Rays games in order for you to be able to pick up a single game ticket for the Yankees but they can’t make you do it for their entire season. You’ll either pick up season tickets, which will cost you more than the NFL, in the long run because there are more games OR you’ll try to go for the more attractive match ups, which are on the weekend. *IF* MLB were to go to a 16 game season and they played 16 weeks on Sunday, I guarantee you that they’d sell out every damn regular season game.
    I’m NOT arguing that football isn’t more popular BUT I am saying that the shorter season makes it easier for teams to sell out. MLB is still a very popular sport and if you think that a sport that draws 1,000,000 fans for most of its teams isn’t then you’re a fool. Oh, you do realize that NO NFL team draws 1,000,000 fans at home, right? I’m not saying that they’re more popular because they draw more TOTAL fans but that they’re pretty damn popular for a sport that you’ve pretty much declared as dead.
    Their problem on TV has been that everyone has tried to do the failed CBS model of starvation instead of the NBC model of giving everyone a game of the week for 30 weeks. The games on TBS aren’t going to draw as well as Fox and more importantly, the games don’t draw as well until the 5, 6 and 7th game of any series and that’s a FACT. Fans don’t tune as much into the first 4 games of any playoff series from ANY league unless they’re compelling (2-2) but after the 5th game, they start getting interested and the long the series goes, the higher the ratings.
    FYI, ESPN has NEVER drawn as much for their baseball coverage as ANY NETWORK BROADCAST – PERIOD, END OF DISCUSSION. Hell, the NHL ratings have been non-existent on Versus but they actually are much higher when the broadcast network shows the game and that’s a fact. ESPN has had a few high rated NFL telecasts but their best is still not as good as the best the MNF got on ABC or what SNF has gotten on NBC and THAT’S A FACT.

  45. jersey73 says: Oct 20, 2010 8:09 AM

    @edgy 1957…
    If you learn how to read, I said an 18 game season would be 9 home game (that is +1). I didn’t say +2.
    The Marlins averaged 18,826/game in attendance. (Based on recorded attendance…which isn’t reality…they inflate the #s.) And looking at their schedule, 18 of the games were against the Cubs, Mets, and Phillies which tend to do much better due to the transplants living in Florida. So imagine how low the attendance is for the other games. The capacity of Sun-Life Stadium (for baseball) is 42,531 so on average they fill 44%. Even the worst NFL team in 2009 (which was the Oakland Raiders) sold 70.3% of their capacity. (The worst team in MLB isn’t even the Marlins, the Cleveland Indians and Oakland A’s had worse attendance figures.)
    Now if you want to look up the statistics for only weekend games in MLB, be my guest. There is only so many hours in the day. But remember, some of these football games (albeit a few) are on Monday Nights and Thursday Nights. Not exactly weekends and don’t exactly end early with work the next day.
    Add to it the affordability factor, on average a baseball ticket is less than half a football ticket. So baseball is a more affordable experience for a fan.
    MNF was on ESPN and the Yankees were on TBS. Don’t give me the BS that more people watch ESPN versus TBS. A sports fan finds the game. This isn’t a “versus” channel issue where “Versus” isn’t available on all systems or is on a pay tier. Both ESPN and TBS are just as widely available on basic cable.
    Now if you’d like to play this game some more…fine. But to refer to me as a brick wall, stupid, moronic because I refute you, tells us more about you than anyone you choose to attack.

  46. rdp234 says: Oct 20, 2010 10:49 AM

    It’s funny to see football fans thumping their chests over this. This is old news. It’s been going on for 25 years and every season you get the same stupid articles. The NFL does very good numbers on TV, but Baseball is still doing very well. There really is no need to compare and I guarantee you that a Game 6 or 7 would beat any NFL game and baseball is the only sport in this country that can even compete with the NFL on TV, so that’s saying something.

  47. edgy1957 says: Oct 20, 2010 2:07 PM

    Well, were is my retort? :)

  48. edgy1957 says: Oct 20, 2010 4:20 PM

    jersey73 says:
    @edgy 1957…
    If you learn how to read, I said an 18 game season would be 9 home game (that is +1). I didn’t say +2.
    **********************************
    Ok, Gregg, I saved it so I don’t have to retype it:
    Mea culpa on the 2 games and the 19 was a typo or don’t you make those? The rest of what I said is valid: 1 game isn’t going to make a difference because it comes out of their preseason package, which means that it won’t mean anything to the cost. Now, if it were 5 or more games, I’ll guarantee you that they’d have a harder time selling their season packages AND individual games. BTW, it’s YOUR turn to learn to read: I never said that Florida was the worst; I merely pointed out your NON-EXISTENT research into saying that they’d be lucky to draw 1,000 or so. If you had done any research, you’d have found that their worst crowd was 10,900 against San Diego, which was on a – wait for it – MONDAY. In fact, they later played a series against those same Padres on Friday-Sunday and drew an average of 5,500 more fans.
    Wrong, wrong, wrong. The cost of a SINGLE game is less BUT for a season of games, it’s not even close. If you lived across the street from the stadiums and paid just to get in, it would cost $74.99 for the average NFL ticket vs $26.64 for the average MLB ticket. If you were able to get a ticket to each individual game at the average price and were some how able to skip past paying for 2 preseason games, those 8 games would cost you $599.92 or if you spent that on MLB games, you’d get into 22.5 games (I guess you’d have to leave after the road team bats in the 5th inning) so if you wanted to pay for a full season of home games, you’d still have to pay for 58.5 or $2157.84 or approximately 3.6 times as much as an NFL fan would have to pay for their 8 games. Even if you add in the discounts for season tickets, that still gives the advantage to the NFL.
    MLB has no choice but to play 7 days a week or else they’d have to stretch their season into late October and they’d have to play the World Series around Thanksgiving (Contrast this with the NBA or the NHL, who only have to stretch 81 game schedule over that same length of time and can play more Thursday through Sunday match ups). If MLB could play 16 weeks of Sunday games only, they’d sell them all out because of cost and lack of availability like the NFL). FYI, Florida averaged 54% not 44% of capacity and if you look at the fact that half of MLB can fill 2/3 of stadium capacity over 81 homes games, they easily trump what the NFL does, when you think about price and availability.
    I made NO mention of either game when I was talking about all this. Look, MNF on ESPN is usually but not always, the top program of the week ON CABLE but they get slapped around by what’s on CBS, Fox and ABC on a regular basis. FYI, the MNF game drew 9.7 million viewers while the MLB game drew 8.2 million and for you smart asses, TBS reports that their numbers are up more than 33% over what they drew last year – so much for a dying sport. ABC did better with MNF but they gave it up because it was costing them money and ESPN actually had a better chance of making money even with lower ratings. ESPN has put up some good numbers for a few games but still less than what ABC could have done.
    Finally, for all you guys who don’t get it, when MLB was THE National Pasttime, they drew less than 15,000 per game and this year, when you guys are pissing all over them, they drew more than double of that. In fact, for all your crap about how they’re not putting as many people in seats as the NFL, MLB is filling their stadiums to a higher capacity than they ever did during their Golden Age or when they were THE National Pasttime.

  49. edgy1957 says: Oct 20, 2010 4:48 PM

    BTW, a little update: after last night’s game, which drew 9.9 million, TBS reports that their viewership is now up 44% over last year.

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