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Mankins trade probably too pricey to pull off

With the annual trading period expiring in roughly three hours, the prevailing scuttlebutt in league circles is that the Patriots want a first-round pick or a high second-round pick for guard Logan Mankins.

And we’re hearing Mankins wants a contract worth $8 million per year.

As a result, we’d be shocked if Mankins is traded today.  With only 11 weeks remaining in the 2010 regular season and Mankins on track to become an unrestricted free agent in 2011 (unless the Pats use the franchise tag to keep him in place), why would anyone give up a first-round or second-round pick for a guy who wants way too much money at a time when it will be difficult for him to have a major impact?

Of course, now that we’ve said we’re shocked he’ll be traded today, look for him to be traded today.

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43 Responses to “Mankins trade probably too pricey to pull off”
  1. ChicagoJo says: Oct 19, 2010 12:51 PM

    He’s worth a 3rd rounder, or a 5th + developing player at as postion of depth. Too bad my Bears aren’t deep anywhere.

  2. CollegeToPros says: Oct 19, 2010 12:53 PM

    WOW if we get a 1st for Mankins and have:
    Raiders 1st
    Bears 1st
    Patriots 1st
    Panthers 2nd
    Patriots 2nd
    to add to this rising young defense. Oh that would be a full rivival of the Dynasty provided they draft at least good players.

  3. twinkletoes says: Oct 19, 2010 12:54 PM

    There aren’t many teams that are one good guard away from getting over the hump. Of course, you know you’re getting a Pro Bowl caliber guard in Mankins, something you can never be guranteed of from any rookie draft pick, whether it’s a first or second rounder.
    Regardless, with all the activity we’ve seen thus far, I’m curious to see what transactions occur today.

  4. benjaminbreeg says: Oct 19, 2010 12:56 PM

    The trade not going to happen this year. However, Mankins can count on the tag. Any goodwill he had with the Patriots went out the windown along time ago.

  5. HarrisonHits says: Oct 19, 2010 1:02 PM

    Only a team desperate for help on the O-line would be interested at this point.
    The Pats offer would have made him the 3rd highest paid guard in the league but Mankins thought that was insulting and “wasn’t taking care of him like he’d been promised”.
    Even if he reports this year I hope the Pats leave him inactive for all the games and let him see what kind of FA contract he’ll get next year. If he gets half of what the Pats offered he’ll be lucky.

  6. PFTiswhatitis says: Oct 19, 2010 1:04 PM

    “at a time when it will be difficult for him to have a major impact?”
    ? I’m pretty sure the guy could have a major impact for a lot of teams.

  7. jklinger24 says: Oct 19, 2010 1:07 PM

    This smells like a typical Patriots deal to me. They will trade him for “seemingly nothing”, everyone will cry oh my look at what they did, Belichick is losing his mind – and they will spin the picks into something even better.
    Look at the list of receivers the Pats had when they won 3 Super Bowls. No Randy Moss types on there.

  8. ninjapleazee says: Oct 19, 2010 1:09 PM

    Tommie Harris for Logan Mankins

  9. Plankshelmet says: Oct 19, 2010 1:21 PM

    So much for the Tommie Harris and a 4th for Mankins. Who was the source for that piece of info, Ronny Woo Woo or a crack addict under Lower Wacker Drive ?? Great investigative journalism guys.

  10. Mosi says: Oct 19, 2010 1:29 PM

    Belichick is the bear with big claws, and Angelo is the cute little rabbit.

  11. Fordman84 says: Oct 19, 2010 1:29 PM

    CollegeToPros says: October 19, 2010 12:53 PM
    WOW if we get a 1st for Mankins and have:
    Raiders 1st
    Bears 1st
    Patriots 1st
    Panthers 2nd
    Patriots 2nd
    ———————-
    How do all those picks look in a lockout year when all the best underclassmen will stay in college?

  12. seahawkhuskyfan says: Oct 19, 2010 1:36 PM

    Can you say SEAHAWKS

  13. BOTZ4EVER says: Oct 19, 2010 1:43 PM

    Vincent Jackson for Logan Mankins

  14. daveham says: Oct 19, 2010 1:45 PM

    Why would Chicago not want to make the deal.It’s a no brainer,they need he DESPERATELY!

  15. Gregjennings85 says: Oct 19, 2010 1:46 PM

    Yeah, Bellicheat is a magician.
    He ‘magically’ traded back for a huge bounty of picks the last two years, and has Brandon Tate and Aaron Hernandez to show for it.
    Stop. The. Presses.
    Somewhere, Scott Pioli is enjoying the hell out of his lunch.

  16. Dealers_Ch01ce says: Oct 19, 2010 1:49 PM

    Gets done, doesn’t get done,…no big deal. Nice to have a pro bowler on the team for the last 6 games and playoffs. If there is football in 2011, he gets franchised and then traded. If there is a lockout, they save the money they already offered him, and franchise and trade him the following year. Mankins has the most to lose, by far. If he gets injured playing the last 6 weeks this year, it will probably cost him $15-20 mil. The franchise $ amount was already offered in a guaranteed long term contract.

  17. FarvesFooPa says: Oct 19, 2010 1:50 PM

    Tommy Harris is so washed up. God are Bears fans idiots! Wake up and smell the coffee idiots. Your teams a joke!

  18. HarrisonHits says: Oct 19, 2010 1:52 PM

    “How do all those picks look in a lockout year when all the best underclassmen will stay in college?”
    @Fordman84,
    They look just fine with or without a pick from the Bears, and with or without underclassmen in the draft.
    I don’t know why people think a lockout is going to effect the draft that much. It will still go on. The players will still eventually be employed.
    And no doubt some underclassmen will still take the chance that the lockout won’t last very long even if its not resolved before TC or the 1st regular season game.

  19. Dan says: Oct 19, 2010 1:53 PM

    Fordman84,
    Actually – probably the last year when a rookie salary cap will be in place. Everyone will come out.

  20. myeaglescantwin says: Oct 19, 2010 1:56 PM

    Patriots are the smartest team when it comes to gathering up good picks.
    Didn’t they have two high first rounders the year after they won the superbowl??
    & $8 million for a top tier T is not a bad price.
    I need my birds to trade Vick then come at the pats with some sort of deal. I’d take this guy on our squad in a NY minute.
    but that minute plays in Jersey

  21. Gregjennings85 says: Oct 19, 2010 2:00 PM

    Also, I have a Tyrone McKenzie, Ron Brace, Jermaine Cunningham, Brandon Spikes, and Taylor Price on line one for you. They said they ‘don’t believe the hype’.
    Meanwhile, if they had stayed put in 09, they could have had Michael Oher and Clay Matthews III or Hakeem Nicks and LeSean McCoy.
    In 2010, if they had stayed put, they could have had Jahvid Best and Dez Bryant.
    Face it, personnel evaluation is not a strong suit of Bellicheat’s.

  22. PFTiswhatitis says: Oct 19, 2010 2:11 PM

    @Fordman84: those picks will translate to the following year if there is a lockout which is big IF.
    So yeah, they are looking pretty good/valuable.

  23. habibfromnewdehli says: Oct 19, 2010 2:12 PM

    Makins for Haynesworth
    Straight up.

  24. teeg01 says: Oct 19, 2010 2:13 PM

    Eagles would give up a 2nd round pick for a Pro Bowl guard.
    The offensive line certainly needs the help. With the Andrew’s brothers gone, some money has got to be available.

  25. Filbertkiwi71 says: Oct 19, 2010 2:16 PM

    CollegeToPros said:”
    WOW if we get a 1st for Mankins and have:
    Raiders 1st
    Bears 1st
    Patriots 1st
    Panthers 2nd
    Patriots 2nd
    to add to this rising young defense. Oh that would be a full rivival of the Dynasty provided they draft at least good players.”

  26. Woodhead 4 prez says: Oct 19, 2010 2:23 PM

    Greg jennings your a moron , you don’t have any idea what your talking about just stop and stick to your day job . Look how great your packers are doing this year , oh wait . They just lost to the miami dolphins who the pats beat 41-14 . Fail

  27. Kiss Bills Rings says: Oct 19, 2010 2:27 PM

    Mankins will either be traded for a 2nd rounder in 2012 or he’ll sign his tender in week 10 …then the Pats franchise him & trade him away durring the 2011 draft…either way he’s gone for a deal that works best for the Patriots…
    Gregjennings85: Pats are doing just fine with all their losy picks by an incompetant coach…how those under achieving player you got doing for you??

  28. Filbertkiwi71 says: Oct 19, 2010 2:48 PM

    Kiss Bills Rings said:”
    Mankins will either be traded for a 2nd rounder in 2012 or he’ll sign his tender in week 10 …then the Pats franchise him & trade him away durring the 2011 draft…either way he’s gone for a deal that works best for the Patriots…
    Gregjennings85: Pats are doing just fine with all their losy picks by an incompetant coach…how those under achieving player you got doing for you??”
    ===
    How many of the Patriots’ players drafted in 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009, still remain on the roster?
    The Patriots aren’t drafting just fine.
    You build teams through the draft.

  29. Pastabelly says: Oct 19, 2010 2:48 PM

    Belichick pretty much said last night that it’s very hard to trade him because you can’t sign a player who isn’t signed and Mankins isn’t signed. The Pats are better off with six games out of him, especially if someone on the offensive line goes down with an injury.

  30. Gregjennings85 says: Oct 19, 2010 3:03 PM

    Woodhead 4 prez says:
    “Greg jennings your a moron”
    Speaking of a failure…
    __________________________________
    Kiss Bills Rings says:
    “Gregjennings85: Pats are doing just fine with all their losy picks by an incompetant coach…how those under achieving player you got doing for you??”
    Wow. What’s in the water in Massachusetts?
    Something tells me it’s stupid pills.
    __________________________________
    Good show, gentlemen. It’s tough to respond after two THOROUGH verbal beat downs like that. I’ll gather myself and regroup.
    Also, guys: You shouldn’t use a word like ‘incompetent’, or a phrase like, ‘you’re a moron’, unless you yourself are neither incompetent nor a moron…otherwise, your response will be rife with delicious irony.
    And honestly, ‘Ringer-Kisser’, you make ‘Woodhead’ look like a Rhodes Scholar. A ‘LOSY’ one, but a Rhodes Scholar, nonetheless.

  31. Pastabelly says: Oct 19, 2010 3:03 PM

    My above comment should be “you can’t TRADE” a player who isn’t signed.

  32. Rhode Island Patriots Fan says: Oct 19, 2010 3:13 PM

    At this late juncture, it would be irrational for any team to give the Patriots a first-round or high second-round draft pick for Mankins. He should have been traded much earlier on to an OG-needy team—like the Lions or Rams—for a second-round pick.

  33. Doctor Connors says: Oct 19, 2010 3:18 PM

    Exactly what is in my responses that doesn’t allow them to get through on this site? I have no bad language in them. I’d like to respond to GregJennings85, who talks about guys like Michael Oher (who Jermaine Cunningham dominated the other day) and Dez Bryant, who has done nothing for the 1-4 Cowboys.
    It’s funny how you tell the Patriots to stand pat on those guys, and yet bash the likes of Spikes (14 tackles I believe against the Ravens), Tate, who has two KR TD’s in five games, Hernandez who catches everything other than two drops in OT, etc.
    And seriously, a Packers hick fan making fun of somebody else? Go back to having relations with your sister. How are all those all-pro Packers players doing this season? Apparently your organization never misses on draft picks, and yet the Packers sit at, what is it, 3-3?

  34. Doctor Connors says: Oct 19, 2010 3:24 PM

    One more thing, Cunningham and Spikes are rookies. Both played very well against the Ravens, a team that many considered as the best in the NFL. I’d again like to remind GregJennings85, who said that the Patriots should have stood pat on Michael Oher, that Jermaine gave him fits all day. And Spikes had 14 tackles.
    I guess they both need to have 10 sacks in 5 games to not be considered busts. You know, compared to all those superstars on the 3-3 Packers.

  35. stefanovich says: Oct 19, 2010 3:57 PM

    Gregjennings, you should take your own advice and shut up. You’re making a fool out of yourself.
    I’d rather have all the Pats players you listed over Michael Oher, Dez Bryant, AND Jahvid Best.
    Cunningham is a beast who absolutely destroyed Oher on Sunday, we don’t need Dez Bryant, and we don’t need Jahvid Best, because we have a higher number of cheaper, quality guys who will be just as if not more effective. Face it, you’re just envious of the Patriots.
    Ron Brace is a solid DE for us and only a 2nd year player, Spikes is an absolute beast run-stopper and emotional leader, and only a rookie, Price is a nice receiver who will help the team, and Tate is already the #1 or #2 kickoff returner in the league; it’s only a matter of time before he makes a big impact on offense as well.
    And I won’t even comment on Hernandez, a 4th round, 20 year old rookie who’s already our 2nd most reliable receiver next to Welker.
    These guys come cheaper than the players you mentioned, and I haven’t even talked about Rob Gronkowski or Sebastian Vollmer or Brandon Deaderick or Pat Chung or Devin McCourty yet, and they’re all starters for us as well.
    My god, you are truly an idiot, I’d take the Pats’ last two drafts over any other team’s, including yours, any day of the week.
    Go flush your brains down the toilet, where they belong.

  36. tomservo24 says: Oct 19, 2010 4:02 PM

    Jesus, the Pats haters are out in full force yet again. By all means rip the 2006-2008 drafts, they were horrible and the main reason this team has fallen short the past two years. But how in the world do you criticize the Pats’ drafting the past two years?
    4 Offensive starters
    4 Defensive starters
    2 Special teams starters
    5 Back-ups making an impact
    6 IR/practice squad/red shirt guys who are still on the team to develop
    3 Undrafted rookies that are on the current 53
    Yeah, what a weak haul, BB doesn’t have a clue. And people still criticizing the trade with GB in ’09. Matthews isn’t a scheme fit for the Fairbanks-Bullough 3-4 that Belichick runs, and Belichick basically traded away the 23rd pick in ’09 for 4 2nds, a 5th, and a 7th. What an idiot!!!

  37. Gregjennings85 says: Oct 19, 2010 4:04 PM

    Clay Matthews III is not a bust by your standards, then.
    Again, could have been a Patsie.
    The Ravens? Best in the NFL?
    Uh, no.
    Maybe when they get Ed Reed back.
    Another thing: Tom Brady is an average QB without Moss. Always has been. The reason you won your recent Super Bowls was due in large part to your defense – and you know that.
    Brady has always been a chain-mover. He can’t sniff Mannings’ jock.
    Everyone other than Peter King, who loves to wash Bellicheat’s dirty undies, knows that Brady is nothing extraordinary.
    Go on believing he’s awesome, and I’ll go on realizing reality.
    All-time best QBs (this is a list of the best QBs all-time, not a list of the best QBs to have won a Super Bowl all-time – two completely different things – no one in their right mind has Eli Manning and Trent Dilfer ahead of Dan Marino and Fran Tarkenton):
    1a.) Joe Montana
    1b.) Peyton Manning
    2.) Dan Marino
    3.) Brett Favre
    4.) Y.A. Tittle
    5.) John Elway
    6.) Johnny Unitas
    7.) Otto Graham
    8.) Bart Starr
    9.) Steve Young
    10.) Fran Tarkenton
    11.) Troy Aikman
    12.) Warren Moon
    13.) Terry Bradshaw
    14.) Tom Brady
    15.) Joe Namath

  38. Doctor Connors says: Oct 19, 2010 5:14 PM

    Who said anything about Tom Brady? I don’t care where you rank him.
    You mocked the likes of Cunningham, Tate, Hernandez, and Spikes, who have played pretty well so far, and talked up Bryant who has done nothing on the 1-4 Cowboys and Oher, who Cunningham frustrated all day (along with McClain, who pushed down Cunningham and got a costly penalty).
    You don’t know what you’re talking about. These kids are very young and doing a good job.

  39. I didn't hear no bell. says: Oct 19, 2010 5:17 PM

    Gregjennings85,
    Whatever little credibility you had left just went out the window with your last post. You really have no clue about football.
    -John

  40. Gregjennings85 says: Oct 19, 2010 7:56 PM

    Dr. Connors:
    Apparently, you can’t read.
    I gave you knobs credit for Tate and Hernandez – I refer to my original post:
    Gregjennings85 says:
    October 19, 2010 1:46 PM
    “Yeah, Bellicheat is a magician.
    He ‘magically’ traded back for a huge bounty of picks the last two years, and has Brandon Tate and Aaron Hernandez to show for it.
    Stop. The. Presses.
    Somewhere, Scott Pioli is enjoying the hell out of his lunch.”
    ______________________________________________
    Let me know if you need any more help deciphering the English language.
    Also, I posted the QB rankings because I knew this would be a great place to reach a good number of delusional Patsies fans.
    Since you douche bags were caught cheating, there have been ZERO legitimate trophies.

  41. Gregjennings85 says: Oct 19, 2010 7:57 PM

    p.s. I will be dropping your back off tonight a little earlier than usual, John. You were right, she’s an alright cook, but she’s annoying as all hell. What can I say? I was desperate, and she’s always hanging around the bar, trying to get some brothers for you to play with. I did what I could. I said when she and I first started dating – no promises.
    One more thing, and this isn’t easy to say…
    John…
    I’m…your dad.
    Sorry, bud.
    Talk soon.
    -John Sr.

  42. Doctor Connors says: Oct 19, 2010 10:38 PM

    Your whole attitude sucks, Greg, so it’s easy to assume you’re bashing Tate and Hernandez. You did the same (wrongly, funny how you just ducked and dodged that whole argument, who are you, Riddick Bowe?) to other players like Spikes.
    By the way, Dick Vermeil, Herm Edwards, Jimmy Johnson, Jay Fiedler, Bill Cowher, among others, disagree with your opinion on spygate.
    Hmm, who should I listen to? Guys who have been there and done it, or some keyboard warrior who is angry that his sister isn’t giving it up to him anymore?

  43. Bossman says: Oct 19, 2010 10:47 PM

    What planet is this fool Gregjennings85 from?
    What a vulgar slob….

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