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Art Rooney breaks ranks on helmet-to-helmet hits

It’s one thing for current and former players to complain about the league’s new focus on eliminating, as to defenseless receivers, the use of the helmet and/or the striking of the head and neck.

It’s another thing for coaches like Mike Tomlin to join in the parade of voices claiming that hits the NFL has deemed to be illegal aren’t really illegal.

The dynamic moves to a new level when an owner speaks out regarding the situation, especially when the owner’s last name rhymes with “Mooney.”

According to Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Steelers president Art Rooney II has declared his support for linebacker James Harrison.

I think the play was a legal hit,” Rooney said. “It’s on the borderline, though.”

Rooney explained that he’s not sure whether the hit against Browns receiver Mohamed Massaquoi was an illegal launch or a legal lunge.  “James’
play, I think, was a football play,” Rooney said. “I understand the
part about not launching yourself.  I think that’s the part that was on
the borderline.  I mean, did he lunge at the guy to make the tackle or
did he launch himself?”

This argument, while valid, overlooks that the fine was imposed not just for launching at a player who has made a catch but has not yet had time to protect himself, but for violating “Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 (g) of the NFL
Official Playing Rules, which states that it is unnecessary roughness if
the initial force of the contact by a defender’s helmet, forearm, or
shoulder is to the head or neck area of a defenseless receiver who is
catching or attempting to catch a pass.”


Rooney also echoed the notion that the fine against Harrison was part of the broader reaction to a 15-minute slice of real time on Sunday afternoon when multiple hits to the head occurred in games throughout the country.
  “If
you look at the plays last weekend, there was only one play . . . that
was flagrant; and yet when the fine comes out, our guy gets the biggest
fine,” Harrison said.
Yes, but Rooney fails to mention the fact that Harrison’s extra $25,000 came not from the hit on Massaqoui per se, but from the fact that it was Harrison’s second unnecessary roughness fine of the year.

“My
concern going forward is how is this discipline going to be handled,
and are they going to try to draw a distinction as far as suspensions
between something that is flagrant and something that’s just a fine.  I
hope that is the direction we’re going in, but I don’t know,” Rooney said.

“I’m
supportive in general trying to take the [illegal helmet-to-helmet] hits out of the game if we
can,” Mr. Rooney said.  “But I’d hope we don’t overreact and we try to
draw distinctions between what’s flagrant and what isn’t flagrant.”

It’s a fair point, but surely it’s one that Commissioner Roger Goodell would have preferred that Rooney had handled with the same discretion that the league office applied to the Rooney family’s circumvention of the rules regarding simultaneous ownership of an NFL franchise and gambling interests that beyond the league’s narrow gambling exemptions.  In that case, the league office worked quietly and patiently behind the scenes with the Rooneys, giving them all the time they needed to fix the problem — and frustrating officials from other teams who wondered whether their owners would have received similar consideration.  In the end, the special consideration included the league treating Rooney and his father, Dan, as one person under the league’s clear requirement that only one person own 30 percent of each team.

It’ll be interesting to see whether the league office has anything to say about Rooney’s remarks.  In October 2006, only two months after Goodell was appointed to his current position with strong support of Dan Rooney, Goodell fined Dan Rooney $25,000 for criticizing game officials after Pittsburgh’s overtime loss to the Falcons. 

Ironically, that game also featured a helmet-to-helmet hit against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, which knocked him out of the game with a concussion.  No fine was imposed against Falcons defensive end Chauncey Davis.

In this case, Art Rooney arguably had no choice but to speak out in support of Harrison and coach Mike Tomlin.  Still, at a time when player confusion has been exacerbated by a head coach who refuses to accept the fact that Harrison’s hit was beyond the boundaries of the rules, a public acknowledgment of that same fact by Art Rooney will serve only to make the players feel even more like they’ve just taken a succession of helmet-to-helmet hits of their own.

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  1. mikeg11117 says: Oct 22, 2010 6:58 AM

    “Yes, but Rooney fails to mention the fact that Harrison’s extra $25,000 came not from the hit on Massaqoui per se, but from the fact that it was Harrison’s second unnecessary roughness fine of the year.”
    Second fine without a flag…
    Maybe Goodell needs to fine the refs for their poor performance.

  2. mikeg11117 says: Oct 22, 2010 6:58 AM

    “Yes, but Rooney fails to mention the fact that Harrison’s extra $25,000 came not from the hit on Massaqoui per se, but from the fact that it was Harrison’s second unnecessary roughness fine of the year.”
    Second fine without a flag…
    Maybe Goodell needs to fine the refs for their poor performance.

  3. Paytonc7 says: Oct 22, 2010 7:03 AM

    Love you Art !!

  4. Paytonc7 says: Oct 22, 2010 7:03 AM

    Love you Art !!

  5. joetoronto says: Oct 22, 2010 7:09 AM

    Holy crap, EVERYBODY is crying this year, what gives?

  6. contract says: Oct 22, 2010 7:14 AM

    “Ironically, that game also featured a helmet-to-helmet hit against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, which knocked him out of the game with a concussion. No fine was imposed against Falcons defensive end Chauncey Davis.”
    Actually on that play Davis hit Big Ben in the face with the crown of his helmet while Ben was being sandwiched by Patrick Kearney from behind … and Ed Hartwell dove at Ben’s knees … all after Ben had thrown the football.
    It was the worst on field mugging I’ve ever seen, and no one was fined even $1.
    Had that been Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, the NFL would’ve fired up “Old Sparky” for the perps.

  7. contract says: Oct 22, 2010 7:14 AM

    “Ironically, that game also featured a helmet-to-helmet hit against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, which knocked him out of the game with a concussion. No fine was imposed against Falcons defensive end Chauncey Davis.”
    Actually on that play Davis hit Big Ben in the face with the crown of his helmet while Ben was being sandwiched by Patrick Kearney from behind … and Ed Hartwell dove at Ben’s knees … all after Ben had thrown the football.
    It was the worst on field mugging I’ve ever seen, and no one was fined even $1.
    Had that been Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, the NFL would’ve fired up “Old Sparky” for the perps.

  8. brucetrimble says: Oct 22, 2010 7:15 AM

    Based upon coach Tomlin’s and owner Rooney’s remarks, it seems the Pittsburgh organization is closing ranks in order to support Harrison while undermining the NFL’s actions which are designed to enhance the safety of the game and prolong the lives of players. Given their lack of support for the NFL’s initiatives and collective state of denial where their player behavior i.e. Rothlisberger, Harrison, Ward, et al, is concerned, it appears they are promoting a culture of thuggery. Here, by providing unconditional support for Harrison, they may be able to create an “us against the world” mentality which could galvanize the team and lead to on-field victories. Yet, those would be short-term victories as their players will, at some point, have to figure out how to survive-mentally, physically, and socially-after football and within a society that doesn’t promote thuggery. Good luck with that.

  9. brucetrimble says: Oct 22, 2010 7:15 AM

    Based upon coach Tomlin’s and owner Rooney’s remarks, it seems the Pittsburgh organization is closing ranks in order to support Harrison while undermining the NFL’s actions which are designed to enhance the safety of the game and prolong the lives of players. Given their lack of support for the NFL’s initiatives and collective state of denial where their player behavior i.e. Rothlisberger, Harrison, Ward, et al, is concerned, it appears they are promoting a culture of thuggery. Here, by providing unconditional support for Harrison, they may be able to create an “us against the world” mentality which could galvanize the team and lead to on-field victories. Yet, those would be short-term victories as their players will, at some point, have to figure out how to survive-mentally, physically, and socially-after football and within a society that doesn’t promote thuggery. Good luck with that.

  10. Igottz5onit says: Oct 22, 2010 7:17 AM

    We get it florios, you hate the steelers. Now move on.

  11. JimmySmith says: Oct 22, 2010 7:23 AM

    Rooney should stick to paying of the Refs in Superbowls, that’s where he is most helpful to his team.

  12. JimmySmith says: Oct 22, 2010 7:23 AM

    Rooney should stick to paying of the Refs in Superbowls, that’s where he is most helpful to his team.

  13. ravenfan820 says: Oct 22, 2010 7:32 AM

    Interesting how the mighty stillers organization is looking quite like all other organizations this past year…..not so special anymore

  14. ravenfan820 says: Oct 22, 2010 7:32 AM

    Interesting how the mighty stillers organization is looking quite like all other organizations this past year…..not so special anymore

  15. JoeBrowns027 says: Oct 22, 2010 7:35 AM

    this is the same family that said James had a good reason to beat/hit his girlfriend.

  16. Spoonthis says: Oct 22, 2010 7:41 AM

    Give me a break Florio. An owner supporting his player is great. Most owners don’t say a damn thing in support of their team. The players should feel all warm and fuzzy inside and not “like they’ve just taken a succession of helmet-to-helmet hits of their own”. Other than that girl that plays center for the Browns, Alexis Mack, how many other current players are whining about the hits Harrison laid this past weekend?

  17. Spoonthis says: Oct 22, 2010 7:41 AM

    Give me a break Florio. An owner supporting his player is great. Most owners don’t say a damn thing in support of their team. The players should feel all warm and fuzzy inside and not “like they’ve just taken a succession of helmet-to-helmet hits of their own”. Other than that girl that plays center for the Browns, Alexis Mack, how many other current players are whining about the hits Harrison laid this past weekend?

  18. REDSKINWARRIOR1112 says: Oct 22, 2010 7:45 AM

    applaud the man for speaking up about something that is going very wrong in the worlds best sport!! sissies trying to make this sport the walking dead like baseball is!!!

  19. Steeler-lady says: Oct 22, 2010 7:50 AM

    IM GLAD THEY ARE SPEAKING UP ! THIS IS GETTING OUT OF CONTROL.

  20. Steeler-lady says: Oct 22, 2010 7:50 AM

    IM GLAD THEY ARE SPEAKING UP ! THIS IS GETTING OUT OF CONTROL.

  21. flake13 says: Oct 22, 2010 7:53 AM

    You keep forgetting [conveniently] to mention the fact that the initial contact was made on Massaquoi’s shoulder where Harrison was aiming[watch how his arm flies up on contact]. The only reason he made contact with his head was because Massaquoi ducked at the last minute. That is what Art Rooney is complaining about. And Dan Rooney’s criticism of officials in that Atlanta game was not in reference to the shot to Roethlisberger’s head…it was to several other idiotic calls.
    But you just keep spinning the facts to suit your agenda…

  22. kaakwha says: Oct 22, 2010 7:59 AM

    It’s whining time again in the ‘burgh!
    STFU already “Mooney.”
    You already make millions/year on your team of dirty players and nasty QB. So sit back, grin, and reap your rewards from their foul play!

  23. kaakwha says: Oct 22, 2010 7:59 AM

    It’s whining time again in the ‘burgh!
    STFU already “Mooney.”
    You already make millions/year on your team of dirty players and nasty QB. So sit back, grin, and reap your rewards from their foul play!

  24. Spungy says: Oct 22, 2010 8:07 AM

    Proof that the Steelers are dirty to the core.

  25. TheDPR says: Oct 22, 2010 8:18 AM

    Has anybody at the NFL league office taken freshman-level physics? I’m just wondering why they think a defender who has left his feet would hit harder than a guy with his feet on the ground.

  26. TheDPR says: Oct 22, 2010 8:18 AM

    Has anybody at the NFL league office taken freshman-level physics? I’m just wondering why they think a defender who has left his feet would hit harder than a guy with his feet on the ground.

  27. 7-8Deville says: Oct 22, 2010 8:26 AM

    Let’s stop all the hand wringing about this hit. Remember that this play was not penalized when it happened, and it took a mere 3 days and countless looks at slow motion replay for the league to make a ruling.
    Had the hits in each separate game taken place on different weeks, we would probably not be discussing this right now. And let’s be clear: the league is more interested in preserving it’s image than it is in protecting it’s players. Otherwise they would immediately illiminate the two extra games they’re using as a bargining chip for the CBA.

  28. football genius says: Oct 22, 2010 8:34 AM

    I hate the stillers but those hits were not illegal. that’s football

  29. OpalJelli says: Oct 22, 2010 8:34 AM

    This has NOTHING to do with the ownership issues, you’re just trying to stir the pot. You sound like Joy Behar.
    The ownership situation does not preclude Mr. Rooney’s right to speak on the subject truthfully when asked. If he had avoided the questions, been more discreet, you’d be throwing him under the bus for not voicing a concrete opinion.

  30. OpalJelli says: Oct 22, 2010 8:34 AM

    This has NOTHING to do with the ownership issues, you’re just trying to stir the pot. You sound like Joy Behar.
    The ownership situation does not preclude Mr. Rooney’s right to speak on the subject truthfully when asked. If he had avoided the questions, been more discreet, you’d be throwing him under the bus for not voicing a concrete opinion.

  31. connie73 says: Oct 22, 2010 8:36 AM

    The Rooneys what a joke. Hold your nose.

  32. kellyb91985 says: Oct 22, 2010 8:40 AM

    He launched himself on the Massoquoi hit. He was fined. It was last week, get over it.
    So sick of Steelers and Steelers fans whining about this – it’s only a fine. Players get fined all the time. Its not your money, and its an incredibly small fraction of Harrison’s.

  33. kellyb91985 says: Oct 22, 2010 8:40 AM

    He launched himself on the Massoquoi hit. He was fined. It was last week, get over it.
    So sick of Steelers and Steelers fans whining about this – it’s only a fine. Players get fined all the time. Its not your money, and its an incredibly small fraction of Harrison’s.

  34. az03buck says: Oct 22, 2010 8:44 AM

    Where was the NFL when the Ravens were putting bounties on players heads? Concerned about safety huh? The problem with the current NFL leadership is that it is all over the place in terms of punishment. For the NFL to glorify hard, borderline illegal hits for years, and now act like they don’t approve at all is hypocritical.

  35. az03buck says: Oct 22, 2010 8:44 AM

    Where was the NFL when the Ravens were putting bounties on players heads? Concerned about safety huh? The problem with the current NFL leadership is that it is all over the place in terms of punishment. For the NFL to glorify hard, borderline illegal hits for years, and now act like they don’t approve at all is hypocritical.

  36. Rhode Island Patriots Fan says: Oct 22, 2010 8:46 AM

    Interestingly, Commissioner Goodell said during yesterday’s NFL.com “Live Chat” session in response to a question re: ejections for helmet-to-helmet hits, “Our referees are not being instructed to eject players from the game for illegal hits to the head, but they are instructed to throw a flag for unnecessary roughness and err on the side of safety.”
    Wasn’t it reported back in November, 2007 that Mike Pereira sent a memo to the 32 teams indicating that officiating crews would start ejecting players for “flagrant” helmet-to-helmet hits? In view of this week’s “get tough” commitment to enforce existing rules re: helmet-to-helmet hits, is Mr. Goodell now saying that in-game disqualifications for “flagrant” helmet-to-helmet hits will not happen?
    I applaud Mr. Rooney for publicly expressing his concerns. He, and everyone else, is entitled to clear—and consistent—guidance on this critical issue.

  37. Holeinone09 says: Oct 22, 2010 8:46 AM

    Congrats to Rooney, and Tomlin, for speaking up and not being lemmings for GODell and the league. GODell thinks everyone will obey whatever he says. He thought wrong. It is pretty obvious that the negative feedback is really growing all around the league, from players to sports experts, and many fans. You can’t deny it if you are following this issue. It seems everyone is against flagrant rules violations, which is appropriate. But it will be a complete mess to try to interpret borderline calls and make up rules as you go along. This is football, not tiddlywinks for goodness sakes. These brutal hits have been going on for years. Hines Ward also had a good article today on this issue. Players understand what they get themselves into when they sign a football contract.
    And the NFL is so hypocritical, for selling pics of the actual so-called illegal hits on their website, and wanting an extended regular season which clearly would increase risk of injury.
    If people would put their loyalties to other teams and hatred/jealousy of the Steelers away for a minute while watching the replays of the hits, they would see Harrison’s and the Steelers’ point of view. I do agree that Harrison’s comments after the game likely contributed to the NFL’s reaction and amount of the fine. He needs to be more careful about what he says. But that doesn’t mean his hit was illegal, played dirty or he tried to intentionally hurt someone. But if you think he is a dirty player, who gives a rat’s ass what you think anyway? And BTW for the morons posting away out there, it seems the real whiners here are GODell and NFL, who whined about the hits first. You dopes.
    Watching the game this weekend will be very interesting. I expect Harrison to UNLEASH HELL. LOL. I suggest the Dolphin ball carriers stay as far away from him as possible. But I do also expect the officials to pay a lot of attention to him. Who knows, they may even start to see some of the constant holding by OL against him then.
    GO STEELERS!!

  38. Holeinone09 says: Oct 22, 2010 8:46 AM

    Congrats to Rooney, and Tomlin, for speaking up and not being lemmings for GODell and the league. GODell thinks everyone will obey whatever he says. He thought wrong. It is pretty obvious that the negative feedback is really growing all around the league, from players to sports experts, and many fans. You can’t deny it if you are following this issue. It seems everyone is against flagrant rules violations, which is appropriate. But it will be a complete mess to try to interpret borderline calls and make up rules as you go along. This is football, not tiddlywinks for goodness sakes. These brutal hits have been going on for years. Hines Ward also had a good article today on this issue. Players understand what they get themselves into when they sign a football contract.
    And the NFL is so hypocritical, for selling pics of the actual so-called illegal hits on their website, and wanting an extended regular season which clearly would increase risk of injury.
    If people would put their loyalties to other teams and hatred/jealousy of the Steelers away for a minute while watching the replays of the hits, they would see Harrison’s and the Steelers’ point of view. I do agree that Harrison’s comments after the game likely contributed to the NFL’s reaction and amount of the fine. He needs to be more careful about what he says. But that doesn’t mean his hit was illegal, played dirty or he tried to intentionally hurt someone. But if you think he is a dirty player, who gives a rat’s ass what you think anyway? And BTW for the morons posting away out there, it seems the real whiners here are GODell and NFL, who whined about the hits first. You dopes.
    Watching the game this weekend will be very interesting. I expect Harrison to UNLEASH HELL. LOL. I suggest the Dolphin ball carriers stay as far away from him as possible. But I do also expect the officials to pay a lot of attention to him. Who knows, they may even start to see some of the constant holding by OL against him then.
    GO STEELERS!!

  39. Yash says: Oct 22, 2010 8:47 AM

    @ Brucetrimble-i’m sure their gameday paychecks they’ve accrued throughout their seasons of “thuggery” will help them assimilate to life after football.
    @ MikeG & Flake13-Ditto.
    Florio has a hard on for the new rule enforcements and will stop at nothing to smear anyone who doesn’t agree.

  40. Yash says: Oct 22, 2010 8:47 AM

    @ Brucetrimble-i’m sure their gameday paychecks they’ve accrued throughout their seasons of “thuggery” will help them assimilate to life after football.
    @ MikeG & Flake13-Ditto.
    Florio has a hard on for the new rule enforcements and will stop at nothing to smear anyone who doesn’t agree.

  41. borg says: Oct 22, 2010 8:48 AM

    “Actually on that play Davis hit Big Ben in the face with the crown of his helmet while Ben was being sandwiched by Patrick Kearney from behind … and Ed Hartwell dove at Ben’s knees … all after Ben had thrown the football.
    It was the worst on field mugging I’ve ever seen, and no one was fined even $1.
    Had that been Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, the NFL would’ve fired up “Old Sparky” for the perps.”
    I believe Big Ben was trying to tingle a coed on that play….just saying

  42. njhitman says: Oct 22, 2010 8:52 AM

    Whats funny is all the Raven fans talking about Harrison and that he sould of got abiiger fine since it wasn’t his first . But look what RayRay got for two flaged hits on the QB in the same game only 5k . But their not saying Ray should of got a bigger fine

  43. njhitman says: Oct 22, 2010 8:52 AM

    Whats funny is all the Raven fans talking about Harrison and that he sould of got abiiger fine since it wasn’t his first . But look what RayRay got for two flaged hits on the QB in the same game only 5k . But their not saying Ray should of got a bigger fine

  44. Igottz5onit says: Oct 22, 2010 8:54 AM

    The amount of steelers hate present just goes to show they truly are the greatest and most feared team in the league. I love it. GO STEELERS!

  45. The Real Shuxion says: Oct 22, 2010 8:56 AM

    # JoeBrowns027 says: October 22, 2010 7:35 AM
    this is the same family that said James had a good reason to beat/hit his girlfriend.
    ——————————————————
    She deserved it, she was DTF.
    -Steeler Fanbase

  46. The Real Shuxion says: Oct 22, 2010 8:56 AM

    # JoeBrowns027 says: October 22, 2010 7:35 AM
    this is the same family that said James had a good reason to beat/hit his girlfriend.
    ——————————————————
    She deserved it, she was DTF.
    -Steeler Fanbase

  47. PFTiswhatitis says: Oct 22, 2010 8:59 AM

    While Harrison was fined $75k, Merriweathers $50k fine was considerably more in terms of percentage of pay and since the fines are taken after taxes, Merriweather was essentially fined 3 game checks.
    Both fines are ludicrous. As Schelereth pointed out, the NFL is all about hypocrisy…and that goes for the players that make tens and hundreds of millions and want their long term healthcare provided by the league too. Hypocrisy all around.

  48. PFTiswhatitis says: Oct 22, 2010 8:59 AM

    While Harrison was fined $75k, Merriweathers $50k fine was considerably more in terms of percentage of pay and since the fines are taken after taxes, Merriweather was essentially fined 3 game checks.
    Both fines are ludicrous. As Schelereth pointed out, the NFL is all about hypocrisy…and that goes for the players that make tens and hundreds of millions and want their long term healthcare provided by the league too. Hypocrisy all around.

  49. andyprough says: Oct 22, 2010 9:01 AM

    @Florio – “This argument, while valid, overlooks that the fine was imposed not just for launching at a player who has made a catch but has not yet had time to protect himself, but for violating “Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 (g) of the NFL Official Playing Rules, which states that it is unnecessary roughness if the initial force of the contact by a defender’s helmet, forearm, or shoulder is to the head or neck area of a defenseless receiver who is catching or attempting to catch a pass.”
    =======================
    You continue to make several completely incorrect observations about the Massaquoi hit, Florio.
    When are you going to respond to these points one-by-one, breaking down the video frame by frame? You are being skewered in these comments by the vast majority of viewers, both from Steeler fans and non-fans.
    1. Launch – you say “the fine was imposed not just for launching” – there was no launch. Harrison never left his feet. Are we redefining the word “launch”? Did the guys in the Apollo missions DRIVE to the moon? I thought that they “Launched” – left the ground.
    2. “who has made a catch but has not yet had time to protect himself” – NFL rules talk about giving the receiver a couple of steps to go into a defensive posture before delivering the blow – Harrison and Massaquoi both took a couple of steps, and Massaquoi recognized him and prepared for the hit
    3. “it is unnecessary roughness if the initial force of the contact by a defender’s helmet, forearm, or shoulder is to the head or neck area of a defenseless receiver who is catching or attempting to catch a pass.” – Not only did Massaquoi bring his own head down into the impact area, as has been pointed out countless times to you, but he was also no longer considered “defenseless” a couple of steps after the attempted catch, nor was he in the act of catching or attempting to catch – he was trying to run after the attempted catch
    You seem to try to imply that there is a “halo” around the receiver that must be respected, as around punt returners. Not only is there no such rule, but Harrison would not have violated that rule.
    And, this is all beside the fact that Timmons was just about to destroy Massaquoi from the other side. What the hell were the Browns thinking trying to throw a 1-yard crossing route directly into the wheelhouses of a recent Defensive Player of the Year and the current Defensive Player of the Week, both of whom make their living crushing guys?

  50. stillayinzer says: Oct 22, 2010 9:11 AM

    I am a Steelers fan.
    With that said, I love ALL physical players. I LOVE the way Ray Lewis plays the game. Yes I love it! I would take him on my team anyday. The prejudice and fan bias is absurd here lately. We are all football fans first. Fight for the game we love and put the bias aside.

  51. stillayinzer says: Oct 22, 2010 9:11 AM

    I am a Steelers fan.
    With that said, I love ALL physical players. I LOVE the way Ray Lewis plays the game. Yes I love it! I would take him on my team anyday. The prejudice and fan bias is absurd here lately. We are all football fans first. Fight for the game we love and put the bias aside.

  52. NoRingsForYou says: Oct 22, 2010 9:25 AM

    Florio – don’t you think it’s time you get over Super Bowl IX? We can’t help it if your beloved Vikings have no rings and the Steelers have SIX.

  53. NoRingsForYou says: Oct 22, 2010 9:25 AM

    Florio – don’t you think it’s time you get over Super Bowl IX? We can’t help it if your beloved Vikings have no rings and the Steelers have SIX.

  54. jamaltimore says: Oct 22, 2010 9:26 AM

    Hate the steelers and the crooked rooneys but have to agree with him for once. Make all the players sign a waiver to play this brutal sport and then let them play. does anyone believe One of the players would not sign the waiver?

  55. jamaltimore says: Oct 22, 2010 9:26 AM

    Hate the steelers and the crooked rooneys but have to agree with him for once. Make all the players sign a waiver to play this brutal sport and then let them play. does anyone believe One of the players would not sign the waiver?

  56. blackbirdroadkill says: Oct 22, 2010 9:31 AM

    stillayinzer says:
    October 22, 2010 9:11 AM
    The prejudice and fan bias is absurd here lately. We are all football fans first. Fight for the game we love and put the bias aside.
    Here here! The fact that cornFlorio continues to exacerbate the dialouge doesn’t help. However, if you actually watch the replay, the receiver drops his head in a protective reflex. Yeah, blame that one on Harrison you simple trogs.

  57. blackbirdroadkill says: Oct 22, 2010 9:31 AM

    stillayinzer says:
    October 22, 2010 9:11 AM
    The prejudice and fan bias is absurd here lately. We are all football fans first. Fight for the game we love and put the bias aside.
    Here here! The fact that cornFlorio continues to exacerbate the dialouge doesn’t help. However, if you actually watch the replay, the receiver drops his head in a protective reflex. Yeah, blame that one on Harrison you simple trogs.

  58. thecurtain says: Oct 22, 2010 9:32 AM

    Florio – I agree with you on the helmet-to-helmet issue – preventing the use of a helmet as a weapon is definitely a practice that needs to be strictly enforced and your outspoken position I have no problem with. But lecturing to men like Tomlin and Rooney on the appropriateness of their public commentary is misguided given their own reputations around the league. It’s especially wrong for you to incite the notion that Rooney should be fined.
    And to Steeler haters – who seem to be the most outspoken group on these message boards – it’s always lonely at the top. Yankee and Lakers fans on this board should be able to relate…

  59. shallowfan says: Oct 22, 2010 9:33 AM

    I would love to see Harrison pull up the next time he has a chance to make a tackle…put his hands up and let the ball carrier run right by…”I can’t afford another 75k!”
    That would be great…think of the circus that would cause.
    Please somebody do that!!!! Anybody!!!

  60. shallowfan says: Oct 22, 2010 9:33 AM

    I would love to see Harrison pull up the next time he has a chance to make a tackle…put his hands up and let the ball carrier run right by…”I can’t afford another 75k!”
    That would be great…think of the circus that would cause.
    Please somebody do that!!!! Anybody!!!

  61. SteelCurtnDee says: Oct 22, 2010 9:36 AM

    All you people claiming Rooney is whining should be applauding him for trying to do something to save the NFL from being a bunch of two hand touch games.
    If anyone has the power to stand up to the commish and get him off this stupid “crusade” of his the Rooney family can.

  62. somesome says: Oct 22, 2010 9:45 AM

    stillayinzer says:
    October 22, 2010 9:11 AM
    I am a Steelers fan.
    With that said, I love ALL physical players. I LOVE the way Ray Lewis plays the game. Yes I love it! I would take him on my team anyday. The prejudice and fan bias is absurd here lately. We are all football fans first. Fight for the game we love and put the bias aside.
    _____________________________
    +1 Raven’s fan here. Rooneys are class acts, glad he spoke out. I hate Harrison but would love to have him on my team. Can’t wait for December 5th. Best game in the season. Ravens/Steelers – the way football is supposed to be played – hardly anybody gets carted off. Maybe some other teams need to toughen up. Don’t send a 200lbs wide receiver over the middle. Todd Heap got jacked up, came back over the middle and ran in a TD. If you cannot take the heat stay out of the kitchen, play the sides of the field.
    Go blow ‘em up.

  63. somesome says: Oct 22, 2010 9:45 AM

    stillayinzer says:
    October 22, 2010 9:11 AM
    I am a Steelers fan.
    With that said, I love ALL physical players. I LOVE the way Ray Lewis plays the game. Yes I love it! I would take him on my team anyday. The prejudice and fan bias is absurd here lately. We are all football fans first. Fight for the game we love and put the bias aside.
    _____________________________
    +1 Raven’s fan here. Rooneys are class acts, glad he spoke out. I hate Harrison but would love to have him on my team. Can’t wait for December 5th. Best game in the season. Ravens/Steelers – the way football is supposed to be played – hardly anybody gets carted off. Maybe some other teams need to toughen up. Don’t send a 200lbs wide receiver over the middle. Todd Heap got jacked up, came back over the middle and ran in a TD. If you cannot take the heat stay out of the kitchen, play the sides of the field.
    Go blow ‘em up.

  64. Clock_Is_King says: Oct 22, 2010 9:50 AM

    Thank goodness the Rooneys are still about Smashmouth Football.
    Thank goodness the Rooneys are against the NBA-ification of the NFL!
    When the Rooney family talks, the rest of the league listens!
    They are an NFL institution, unlike Florio and Goodell!!

  65. Rogue says: Oct 22, 2010 9:54 AM

    Finnegan from the Titans never got fined more for is second offense

  66. Rogue says: Oct 22, 2010 9:54 AM

    Finnegan from the Titans never got fined more for is second offense

  67. stevebody says: Oct 22, 2010 10:01 AM

    Who really gives a crap what Timlin says? It’s an NFL rule and he’ll either go along with it or he’ll start racking up the sort of fines that coaches can’t afford – or maybe be out altogether.
    As for “whining”, the only whine I’ve seen in this whole article/response is right here:
    “Had that been Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, the NFL would’ve fired up “Old Sparky” for the perps.”
    Wah-wah-wah…AMAZING how fans of a team like the Stealers – who get everything but a backrub from the NFL and have had more success in recent years than almost any other team – try to cast themselves as the poor downtrodden Little Guys when anyone dares to criticize or discipline them. Cowboy up, guys. Not everybody loves the “mighty Stealers”. Many of us are sick to death of them and are enjoying this organization-wide meltdown more than a new Lord of the Rings movie. Whiny, self-important receivers, a big ol’ ignoramus of a QB who can’t keep his tiny Johnson in his pants, a coach who feels that he and his players should have different rules…what a laughing stock this team has become! I hope they go 0-16 next year and Roethlisberger goes straight down the toilet. It’s not enough for you guys that the NFL gave you a Super Bowl?

  68. roboninja says: Oct 22, 2010 10:04 AM

    So Rooney should shut up and toe the company line, even if he disagrees? Just like you do now, right Mike?

  69. roboninja says: Oct 22, 2010 10:04 AM

    So Rooney should shut up and toe the company line, even if he disagrees? Just like you do now, right Mike?

  70. Steelerschick43 says: Oct 22, 2010 10:15 AM

    VERY rarely do you see a roughing the passer on Ben…I remember a couple years ago Ben was sandwich by that thug Suggs and another player..and NO flag!!!
    Thanks for the support for Harrison Art!! Way to go!! Go Steelers!!!!

  71. rockinron says: Oct 22, 2010 10:25 AM

    So here is the sequence of events:
    - Harrison puts hit on back of Cribbs head, called legal because he is deemed a running back.
    - Harrison leads with his head and knocks out Massaquoi.
    - Harrison says he wasn’t trying to “injure” the players, just “hurt” them.
    - League fines him $75,000 for 2nd hit, his 2nd fine for the year.
    - Harrison cries like a baby and says he is taking his ball and going home, threatening to retire if he can’t beat up other players.
    - Tomlin says he thinks play was legal, because um, well, he gave no reason. Just trying to pacify Harrison.
    - Art Rooney comes out and says the 2nd hit was legal, but borderline. His reasoning is Harrison didn’t launch himself, just lunged. Doesn’t mention he still lead with his helmet and hit Massaquoi in the helmet, so launch or lunge doesn’t make a difference. Apparently the idiots (Ben and James) do really run the asylum that is the Stealers.
    - Harrison comes back to practice (so he doesn’t have to give back $8 million in signing bonus) and still pouts in corner.
    Harrison has taken whining to a whole new level, requiring the owner to pat him on the back. I would hate to be his baby’s momma this week.

  72. Rangenius says: Oct 22, 2010 10:25 AM

    We get it Florio, you want guys to hit the knees and have more knee injuries, let’s move on now.

  73. Rangenius says: Oct 22, 2010 10:25 AM

    We get it Florio, you want guys to hit the knees and have more knee injuries, let’s move on now.

  74. edgy1957 says: Oct 22, 2010 10:27 AM

    I guess I was wrong: everyone in the Pittsburgh organization is too stubborn to realize that they’re wrong. Funny how they sang a different tune when the shoe was on the other foot. I guess the league probably overreacted about Turkey Jones’ hit on Bradshaw, too.

  75. edgy1957 says: Oct 22, 2010 10:27 AM

    I guess I was wrong: everyone in the Pittsburgh organization is too stubborn to realize that they’re wrong. Funny how they sang a different tune when the shoe was on the other foot. I guess the league probably overreacted about Turkey Jones’ hit on Bradshaw, too.

  76. Steeler-lady says: Oct 22, 2010 10:28 AM

    So if its all about safety does that mean Rb’s can no longer lower their heads and lead into a pile head first????

  77. KolbFan says: Oct 22, 2010 10:31 AM

    Well written article Florio.
    Rooneys mouth has shown a huge spotlight on the Steelers continued league preference.
    Harrison got fined highest because he’s been warned many times about his dirty hits. The NFL missed a chance to enforce this sudden issue on a multiple repeat offender. Would’ve sent a clear message and also would’ve been really funny to watch Harrison cry & quit the game cause he was suspended a week.

  78. flake13 says: Oct 22, 2010 10:32 AM

    Harrison never hit his girlfriend…he smacked a cell phone out of her hand and it hit her in the face. [the same girlfriend who let the pit bull play with their 3 yr old...draw your own conclusions]

  79. flake13 says: Oct 22, 2010 10:32 AM

    Harrison never hit his girlfriend…he smacked a cell phone out of her hand and it hit her in the face. [the same girlfriend who let the pit bull play with their 3 yr old...draw your own conclusions]

  80. pfii63 says: Oct 22, 2010 10:40 AM

    This coming from the guy who has a rapist starting at Quarterback.

  81. pfii63 says: Oct 22, 2010 10:40 AM

    This coming from the guy who has a rapist starting at Quarterback.

  82. rea725 says: Oct 22, 2010 10:44 AM

    That hit was head-to-head, and obviously not within the rules. I understand Rooney wanting to publicly support his guy, but he has to know the truth.
    Beyond that, Harrison is just a thug. See flake13 above.
    Oh yeah, this is the same Harrison who cost himself the Superbowl MVP with a dirty hit in the 2nd half vs. the Cards.

  83. rea725 says: Oct 22, 2010 10:44 AM

    That hit was head-to-head, and obviously not within the rules. I understand Rooney wanting to publicly support his guy, but he has to know the truth.
    Beyond that, Harrison is just a thug. See flake13 above.
    Oh yeah, this is the same Harrison who cost himself the Superbowl MVP with a dirty hit in the 2nd half vs. the Cards.

  84. Barrington Chadsworth says: Oct 22, 2010 11:01 AM

    This is clearly a case of knock the top dog off the top rung.
    The whole purpose of the Defense is to stop the opposing team from gaining yards and scoring. You are taught from day one to knock the heck out of your opponent and make him drop the ball. You are NEVER taught (unless you are on Buddy Ryan’s teams) to injure a player. You are taught to hurt them though. It would be like asking a nascar driver to slow down or an MMA fighter to slap instead of punch. Instinct takes over on the field.
    Blatant hits that cause intentional injury should be dealt with but if a hit has any question as to it’s intent then it should be left alone.
    Now if I were opposing teams, I would not want to face Harrison either and that seems to be the crux of this situation. Rooney should probably keep his mouth shut and stay out of the press Perez Florio can’t spin it as a hit piece on the Steelers.

  85. Barrington Chadsworth says: Oct 22, 2010 11:01 AM

    This is clearly a case of knock the top dog off the top rung.
    The whole purpose of the Defense is to stop the opposing team from gaining yards and scoring. You are taught from day one to knock the heck out of your opponent and make him drop the ball. You are NEVER taught (unless you are on Buddy Ryan’s teams) to injure a player. You are taught to hurt them though. It would be like asking a nascar driver to slow down or an MMA fighter to slap instead of punch. Instinct takes over on the field.
    Blatant hits that cause intentional injury should be dealt with but if a hit has any question as to it’s intent then it should be left alone.
    Now if I were opposing teams, I would not want to face Harrison either and that seems to be the crux of this situation. Rooney should probably keep his mouth shut and stay out of the press Perez Florio can’t spin it as a hit piece on the Steelers.

  86. Rafterman says: Oct 22, 2010 11:12 AM

    Great move on Art’s part. It’s time for God-dell to realize that he serves at the pleasure of the owners.

  87. Rafterman says: Oct 22, 2010 11:12 AM

    Great move on Art’s part. It’s time for God-dell to realize that he serves at the pleasure of the owners.

  88. Frank60 says: Oct 22, 2010 11:17 AM

    I’m wondering how these new/old rules will be applied to all players like linemen on both sides and running backs who lower their heads all the time.

  89. Frank60 says: Oct 22, 2010 11:17 AM

    I’m wondering how these new/old rules will be applied to all players like linemen on both sides and running backs who lower their heads all the time.

  90. JohnnyUlives says: Oct 22, 2010 11:29 AM

    What do you expect from the owners of one of the first franchises to push steroids on its players in the 70s. Steel curtain? How bout STEROID CURTAIN!!

  91. JohnnyUlives says: Oct 22, 2010 11:29 AM

    What do you expect from the owners of one of the first franchises to push steroids on its players in the 70s. Steel curtain? How bout STEROID CURTAIN!!

  92. Ragman says: Oct 22, 2010 11:44 AM

    Once again Florio your opinion is your own agenda….Don’t forget, for all intent purposes, Dan Rooney was the main supporter & factor as to why Goodell succeeded Tags as commissioner, so the Rooney’s don’t “owe” Goodell ANYTHING! Hey quick question, how much has George Soros contributed to your publication?

  93. Ragman says: Oct 22, 2010 11:44 AM

    Once again Florio your opinion is your own agenda….Don’t forget, for all intent purposes, Dan Rooney was the main supporter & factor as to why Goodell succeeded Tags as commissioner, so the Rooney’s don’t “owe” Goodell ANYTHING! Hey quick question, how much has George Soros contributed to your publication?

  94. TylerRDunn says: Oct 22, 2010 11:57 AM

    The hit on Massaqoui was legal. Harrison lead with his forearms, yes. But he led with them to Massaqoui’s CHEST. Helmet to helmet contact is BARELY made and it is entirely incidental. The fine, the media buzz and everything else surrounding this hit is ridiculous.

  95. TylerRDunn says: Oct 22, 2010 11:57 AM

    The hit on Massaqoui was legal. Harrison lead with his forearms, yes. But he led with them to Massaqoui’s CHEST. Helmet to helmet contact is BARELY made and it is entirely incidental. The fine, the media buzz and everything else surrounding this hit is ridiculous.

  96. ThePitts says: Oct 22, 2010 12:01 PM

    Dan Rooney is simply callin’ them as he sees ‘em….the fact that YOU bring up their other “interests” or the Atlanta game…well, seems like you’re going for some low blows yourself with shoddy journalism.

  97. ThePitts says: Oct 22, 2010 12:01 PM

    Dan Rooney is simply callin’ them as he sees ‘em….the fact that YOU bring up their other “interests” or the Atlanta game…well, seems like you’re going for some low blows yourself with shoddy journalism.

  98. Dumb As Einstien says: Oct 22, 2010 12:10 PM

    Florio, All your commentary makes you appear to be nothing more than a chior boy for some liberal leaning, panzy asses who in some way intend to benefit by reducing the defensive side of the NFL. Clearly, this whole newly found subject is less about injuries & more about money & who is going to make more of it by making changes to the way the game is played. My question is: who is lining your pockets to make you sing like thier song like a canary on SUNDAY (pun intended) morning?!?

  99. Dumb As Einstien says: Oct 22, 2010 12:10 PM

    Florio, All your commentary makes you appear to be nothing more than a chior boy for some liberal leaning, panzy asses who in some way intend to benefit by reducing the defensive side of the NFL. Clearly, this whole newly found subject is less about injuries & more about money & who is going to make more of it by making changes to the way the game is played. My question is: who is lining your pockets to make you sing like thier song like a canary on SUNDAY (pun intended) morning?!?

  100. stillayinzer says: Oct 22, 2010 12:33 PM

    Not everybody loves the “mighty Stealers”. Many of us are sick to death of them and are enjoying this organization-wide meltdown more than a new Lord of the Rings movie…. what a laughing stock this team has become! I hope they go 0-16 next year and Roethlisberger goes straight down the toilet. ==================================
    This is funny. Organization wide meltdown? Laughing stock?
    If 4-1 is a meltdown, I wish a meltdown for your team too.

  101. stillayinzer says: Oct 22, 2010 12:33 PM

    Not everybody loves the “mighty Stealers”. Many of us are sick to death of them and are enjoying this organization-wide meltdown more than a new Lord of the Rings movie…. what a laughing stock this team has become! I hope they go 0-16 next year and Roethlisberger goes straight down the toilet. ==================================
    This is funny. Organization wide meltdown? Laughing stock?
    If 4-1 is a meltdown, I wish a meltdown for your team too.

  102. Deb says: Oct 22, 2010 12:36 PM

    Mike, the problem isn’t whether the hit was a hair’s breadth over the line. It’s exactly what Rooney said: The League’s knee-jerk reaction to the SCREECHING of bloggers and announcers. And it’s juvenile to bring up the old news of the Steelers ownership structure, which has nothing to do with this. As always, the League was also acting in its own interest throughout that episode. Or did the NFL want to be dealing with the same mess in Pittsburgh it now has in St. Louis?
    Rules have been in place for three years to deal with illegal hits and the league hasn’t bothered to enforce them. That should have been the starting point rather than yapping about suspensions because a television analyst said so. Singling out James Harrison because he was fined in the Tennessee game for a completely different issue did nothing but take the focus off illegal hits and put it on James Harrison. In the end, this pompous ass Goodell does work for the owners. The wise thing would have been to:
    1. equally fine players involved in last week’s incidents rather than trying to create scapegoats
    2. announce the intention to enforce the existing ejection rule
    3. address the issue at the post-season owners’ meeting to see if further action needs to be taken
    Harrison’s hit on Cribbs was legal. I had a problem with his hit on Massaquoi and do think he can notch it back some. But these are judgment calls–and that’s the point. Frankly, owners and coaches who stick by their players is refreshing. Thank you, Art.
    And if you’re a Steelers fan, the Grinch really is Santa Claus.

  103. Deb says: Oct 22, 2010 12:36 PM

    Mike, the problem isn’t whether the hit was a hair’s breadth over the line. It’s exactly what Rooney said: The League’s knee-jerk reaction to the SCREECHING of bloggers and announcers. And it’s juvenile to bring up the old news of the Steelers ownership structure, which has nothing to do with this. As always, the League was also acting in its own interest throughout that episode. Or did the NFL want to be dealing with the same mess in Pittsburgh it now has in St. Louis?
    Rules have been in place for three years to deal with illegal hits and the league hasn’t bothered to enforce them. That should have been the starting point rather than yapping about suspensions because a television analyst said so. Singling out James Harrison because he was fined in the Tennessee game for a completely different issue did nothing but take the focus off illegal hits and put it on James Harrison. In the end, this pompous ass Goodell does work for the owners. The wise thing would have been to:
    1. equally fine players involved in last week’s incidents rather than trying to create scapegoats
    2. announce the intention to enforce the existing ejection rule
    3. address the issue at the post-season owners’ meeting to see if further action needs to be taken
    Harrison’s hit on Cribbs was legal. I had a problem with his hit on Massaquoi and do think he can notch it back some. But these are judgment calls–and that’s the point. Frankly, owners and coaches who stick by their players is refreshing. Thank you, Art.
    And if you’re a Steelers fan, the Grinch really is Santa Claus.

  104. 6 Times A Lady says: Oct 22, 2010 1:20 PM

    OK everybody, let’s all just calm down. I know the Steelers gets you all as fired up as bull in a pen full of heffers, but let’s just take a deep breath and count to 6:
    1 Lombardi
    2 Lombardi
    3 Lombardi
    4 Lombardi
    5 Lombardi
    6 Lombardi
    Now dont you feel better?

  105. 6 Times A Lady says: Oct 22, 2010 1:20 PM

    OK everybody, let’s all just calm down. I know the Steelers gets you all as fired up as bull in a pen full of heffers, but let’s just take a deep breath and count to 6:
    1 Lombardi
    2 Lombardi
    3 Lombardi
    4 Lombardi
    5 Lombardi
    6 Lombardi
    Now dont you feel better?

  106. Holeinone09 says: Oct 22, 2010 1:39 PM

    Now hear this. Steelers will be 5-1 after this weekend. I would love to see Harrison have about 12 tackles, 3 sacks and 2 forced fumbles, and get Defensive Player of the Week. Who knows, maybe even a few of the ball carriers will be able to get up off the ground after he hits them, legally of course. And the NFL can sell more pics! Everybody wins!
    Eat that haters.
    GO STEELERS!!

  107. Holeinone09 says: Oct 22, 2010 1:39 PM

    Now hear this. Steelers will be 5-1 after this weekend. I would love to see Harrison have about 12 tackles, 3 sacks and 2 forced fumbles, and get Defensive Player of the Week. Who knows, maybe even a few of the ball carriers will be able to get up off the ground after he hits them, legally of course. And the NFL can sell more pics! Everybody wins!
    Eat that haters.
    GO STEELERS!!

  108. unit612 says: Oct 22, 2010 1:57 PM

    It’s funny Rooney supports Harrison’s hit, which you can clearly see Harrison lunch at Massaquoi, there was no intent form Harrison to wrap Massaquoi up, which if he did hit him and wrap up while doing it, he probably wouldn’t be fined. But when Big Ben is hit helmet to helmet there outraged by it.
    The Refs should be fined also, if Ben was hit like posters reported there should of been a flag and a fine. just like there should of been a flag against Harrison. You can’t have it both ways weather your a Steelers fan Browns or any other fan. the rules are the rules. and it shouldn’t matter if your Colt McCoy or Big Ben or Tom Brady, the refs and the NFL has to be fair across the board.
    Us as fans love it when are players hit someone hard, but when someone hits are players hard we are out raged by hit. players don’t give a crap about fans, we as fans should just watch the game and be smart enough to know when a hit is legal or illegal. no matter who’s doing the hitting, and refs should call a fair game and not give one team an edge just because who’s on there team or what team they are.

  109. unit612 says: Oct 22, 2010 1:57 PM

    It’s funny Rooney supports Harrison’s hit, which you can clearly see Harrison lunch at Massaquoi, there was no intent form Harrison to wrap Massaquoi up, which if he did hit him and wrap up while doing it, he probably wouldn’t be fined. But when Big Ben is hit helmet to helmet there outraged by it.
    The Refs should be fined also, if Ben was hit like posters reported there should of been a flag and a fine. just like there should of been a flag against Harrison. You can’t have it both ways weather your a Steelers fan Browns or any other fan. the rules are the rules. and it shouldn’t matter if your Colt McCoy or Big Ben or Tom Brady, the refs and the NFL has to be fair across the board.
    Us as fans love it when are players hit someone hard, but when someone hits are players hard we are out raged by hit. players don’t give a crap about fans, we as fans should just watch the game and be smart enough to know when a hit is legal or illegal. no matter who’s doing the hitting, and refs should call a fair game and not give one team an edge just because who’s on there team or what team they are.

  110. Matt says: Oct 22, 2010 2:09 PM

    This argument, while valid, overlooks that the fine was imposed not just for launching at a player who has made a catch but has not yet had time to protect himself, but for violating “Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 (g) of the NFL Official Playing Rules, which states that it is unnecessary roughness if the initial force of the contact by a defender’s helmet, forearm, or shoulder is to the head or neck area of a defenseless receiver who is catching or attempting to catch a pass.”
    ********************************************
    The player in this case wasn’t defenseless, you putz. Quit citing it.

  111. Matt says: Oct 22, 2010 2:09 PM

    This argument, while valid, overlooks that the fine was imposed not just for launching at a player who has made a catch but has not yet had time to protect himself, but for violating “Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 (g) of the NFL Official Playing Rules, which states that it is unnecessary roughness if the initial force of the contact by a defender’s helmet, forearm, or shoulder is to the head or neck area of a defenseless receiver who is catching or attempting to catch a pass.”
    ********************************************
    The player in this case wasn’t defenseless, you putz. Quit citing it.

  112. Deadguy says: Oct 22, 2010 6:07 PM

    Lawyers. First they ruin life, now they want to ruin football!
    What a joke. How much erroneous information can you add to the argument? Do the Rooney’s receive special treatment…. um, yes… that’s not a big revelation! The Rooney’s are the NFL. This is our league. Suck it, haters!

  113. Deadguy says: Oct 22, 2010 6:07 PM

    Lawyers. First they ruin life, now they want to ruin football!
    What a joke. How much erroneous information can you add to the argument? Do the Rooney’s receive special treatment…. um, yes… that’s not a big revelation! The Rooney’s are the NFL. This is our league. Suck it, haters!

  114. Blackn'Gold says: Oct 22, 2010 9:11 PM

    It’s good to hear the owner supports his players and the culture is consistent through the organization. Perhaps, the owners now are realizing what a monster they’ve created in Goodell?
    The more involved Goodell becomes the more fans complain. Can it be any simpler?
    GO STEELERS!

  115. Blackn'Gold says: Oct 22, 2010 9:11 PM

    It’s good to hear the owner supports his players and the culture is consistent through the organization. Perhaps, the owners now are realizing what a monster they’ve created in Goodell?
    The more involved Goodell becomes the more fans complain. Can it be any simpler?
    GO STEELERS!

  116. ForrestGump says: Oct 22, 2010 10:05 PM

    # pfii63 says: October 22, 2010 10:40 AM
    “This coming from the guy who has a rapist starting at Quarterback.”
    Bill Polian?

  117. ForrestGump says: Oct 22, 2010 10:05 PM

    # pfii63 says: October 22, 2010 10:40 AM
    “This coming from the guy who has a rapist starting at Quarterback.”
    Bill Polian?

  118. blk&au says: Oct 23, 2010 1:24 AM

    since goodell took over he has hand picked players and teams he thinks he can use to make it look like he is cleaning up the game. it is pathetic. we just want football not goodell hour. he needs to do his job quietly and away from the spotlight he adores.

  119. blk&au says: Oct 23, 2010 1:24 AM

    since goodell took over he has hand picked players and teams he thinks he can use to make it look like he is cleaning up the game. it is pathetic. we just want football not goodell hour. he needs to do his job quietly and away from the spotlight he adores.

  120. Rafterman says: Oct 23, 2010 9:10 AM

    Deadguy says: October 22, 2010 6:07 PM
    Lawyers. First they ruin life, now they want to ruin football!
    What a joke. How much erroneous information can you add to the argument? Do the Rooney’s receive special treatment…. um, yes… that’s not a big revelation! The Rooney’s are the NFL. This is our league. Suck it, haters!
    ——————————————————
    AMEN
    Obviously most of the morons on this BBS haven’t accepted the fact that WE ARE AMERICA’S TEAM and always have been.
    God-dell serves at the pleasure of the Rooney’s. Don’t believe me? Fine, number 7 is in the bag after this league fiasco. God-dell has been received his only warning.

  121. Rafterman says: Oct 23, 2010 9:10 AM

    Deadguy says: October 22, 2010 6:07 PM
    Lawyers. First they ruin life, now they want to ruin football!
    What a joke. How much erroneous information can you add to the argument? Do the Rooney’s receive special treatment…. um, yes… that’s not a big revelation! The Rooney’s are the NFL. This is our league. Suck it, haters!
    ——————————————————
    AMEN
    Obviously most of the morons on this BBS haven’t accepted the fact that WE ARE AMERICA’S TEAM and always have been.
    God-dell serves at the pleasure of the Rooney’s. Don’t believe me? Fine, number 7 is in the bag after this league fiasco. God-dell has been received his only warning.

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