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Week Seven Friday 10-pack

We like to count in tens around here.  It’s simple.  It’s clean.  It matches my IQ.

Besides, if we didn’t stop at 10, there’s a chance we’d never shut up.

So here are 10 takes for the coming weekend’s games.  With four teams on byes (again), we’re not sure we could have come up with many more.

But we definitely would have tried.


1.  Celebration rule continues to confound.

Usually, we focus
this look-ahead on specific games.  Our first take
for Week Seven looks at a dynamic that can arise in any, some, or all
of them.

Confusion abounds regarding the rule that prevents
players from going to the ground when celebrating.  Last week, NFL V.P.
of officiating Carl Johnson painted the rule as establishing a bright line,
with no room for interpretation or judging intent.

“The rule is
pretty clear and explicit,” Johnson told Rich Eisen during the “Official Review” segment on NFL Network, while defending the penalty called
against Cowboys tackle Marc Colombo when he fell to the ground after
bumping chests with tight end Jason Witten.  “Going to the ground as
part of a celebration, it’s pretty black and white — it’s clear, we
don’t allow a player to go to the ground as part of a celebration,” Johnson said.

OK, good.  Now we finally understand the rule.

Then, last weekend against the Cowboys, Vikings running back Adrian
Peterson scored a touchdown, fell to both knees, and held both arms in
the air — displaying the index and middle fingers of each hand.

No
flag was thrown.

So what gives?  “We do not interfere when it
comes to communication with God,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told PFT via
e-mail earlier this week. “Going to the ground to pray is not a rules
violation.”

Fine, but why didn’t Carl Johnson factor that into
his explanation premised on the idea that there’s no room for
interpretation or intent?

“Going to the ground and praying has
never been a violation,” Aiello said in a follow-up e-mail.  “He may not have been asked about
that aspect of it last week because it wasn’t relevant.  But that’s how
it’s been handled.”

Still, this requires the officials to determine intent.  And though I
haven’t been exposed to many different religions, I’m aware of none in
which falling to the ground and extending dual peace signs constitutes
an act of devotion or worship. 

Unless Peterson was praying to the ghost of Richard Nixon.

2.  Shanahan gets his first crack at Cutler.

In January 2009, the Broncos fired coach Mike Shanahan.  A couple of months later, new coach Josh McDaniels essentially fired quarterback Jay Cutler,

For several weeks, it was believed that Cutler would be traded to the Redskins, who then would have him in the fold if (when) Mike Shanahan became head coach.  And all signs pointed to a Broncos-to-Redskins trade. 

Until the Broncos abruptly traded Cutler to the Bears.

Presumably, the Broncos didn’t want to give the two men a chance to prove that the Broncos should have kept both of them.  Now, Shanahan gets his chance to prove that it was the coach, not the quarterback, who made the offense so successful in Denver.

It’s the second time this year that Shanahan has faced a former protege.  In September, the Redskins ultimately fell in overtime to Gary Kubiak’s Texans, after Kubiak used the Shanahan-devised time out trick to freeze kicker Graham Gano.

This time around, Shanahan will be returning to his hometown (along with Chicago native Donovan McNabb) in the hopes of showing that Cutler became a great quarterback only because he had access to a great coach.

3.  Blue Moon over Lambeau.

In his last trip to Lambeau Field, receiver Randy Moss lit up the Packers in the only playoff meeting ever between Minnesota and Green Bay.  Moss added indignity to injury by pretending to drop his pants and moon the crowd in the end zone bleachers. 

The Vikings traded Moss to Oakland less than two months later, and he has yet to return to Lambeau in five seasons since.  The first time he played there, Moss helped the Vikings destroy the two-time defending NFC champions in a Monday night game for the ages during a magical (but for the conference championship game) rookie season.

He’ll return with a quarterback who faced relentless boos last year in his first trip to Wisconsin with a helmet sport something other than a “G” on it. 

Hopefully, Brett Favre won’t pretend to drop his pants.

4.  Reid could be applying “100 percent rule” to Mike Vick.

The magical (but for the conference championship game) Minnesota season in 1998 included a quarterback quandary that coach Dennis Green handled perfectly (but for the conference championship game).  After starter Brad Johnson broke a leg in Week Two and backup Randall Cunningham began to put together what could become one of the best and most underrated quarterback seasons of all time, Green said that Johnson would get his job back when Johnson returned to 100 percent.

And Johnson never returned to 100 percent.

Earlier this year, we suggested that Eagles coach Andy Reid should apply the “100 percent rule” to Kevin Kolb, which would have allowed the Eagles to ride the hot hand of Mike Vick until he cooled off, or until he suffered an injury.  Reid opted instead to declare after an impressive performance from Vick against the Jaguars that Kolb was still the starter — and then to hand the job to Vick two days later.

With Vick now injured and Kolb playing as well if not better than Vick performed, it could be that Reid will hold Vick out until he returns to 100 percent, which won’t happen any time soon if Kolb continues to rack up passer rating numbers in excess of 100 points.

Regardless of semantics, the same reasoning that kept Vick on the field when he was one of the hottest quarterbacks in the league should keep Kolb, one of the hottest quarterbacks in the league, on the field now.

5.  Cowboys will delay the inevitable for another week.

Few expect the Dallas Cowboys to fully dig out of their 1-4 hole.  But when they face a division rival on Monday night against which the Cowboys are 1-4 since the 2007 postseason, the Cowboys will face a level of urgency they’ve never before seen.

In Week Three, we all saw a desperate Cowboys team that was capable of performing when cornered like a rabid raccoon.  Now, after the bye week and a flat performance against the Titans and a narrow loss to the equally panicked Vikings, the Cowboys again find themselves in a game against a team that faces far less urgent circumstances.

Yes, the Giants have turned it around after their own 1-2 start.  Yes, they have looked great at times in winning three in a row.  But the Cowboys have too much talent and they need this one too badly.

Besides, with no team in the conference having fewer than two losses, the Cowboys remain very much alive.  To stay there, they need to win this game worse than any regular-season game they’ve needed to win in years.

6.  Chargers, Cowboys have common affliction.

In the Week Six Monday 10-pack, we explained that the fundamental problem in Dallas isn’t the coach, but the G.M. 

A similar observation could be made about the Chargers.

Though the owner hasn’t hired himself to be the General Manager in San Diego, the G.M. in San Diego, like the owner in Dallas, doesn’t want a head coach who will try to tell the G.M. how to do his job.

As a result, A.J. Smith ran off Marty Schottenheimer after a wildly successful (but for the playoffs) season, and A.J. Smith hired a guy who, like Cowboys coach Wade Phillips, had been fired twice before and had no aspirations beyond simply being the coach of the team.

And that’s the problem with a coach who’s happy to be a coach.  The absence of ambition loosely correlates to a lack of fire, which in turn contributes to a dearth of discipline in the locker room and on the field.

So to anyone who thinks the Cowboys and/or Chargers need a new head coach, you should aim one level higher.

7.  Steelers could be the new bad boys of the NFL.

The new emphasis on hits applied to defenseless receivers generally will hurt defenses.  And, therefore, it will hurt teams that win with defense.

It will hurt no team more than the Pittsburgh Steelers.

The Steelers know it.  That’s why coach Mike Tomlin and team president Art Rooney have publicly questioned the decision to fine linebacker James Harrison.  Rooney wants the league to distinguish between flagrant and incidental hits, something the league apparently didn’t do when meting out punishment for a trio of brain-busters from Week Six.

It appears that the Steelers won’t be changing the way they play football.  If that results in more hits that draw fines and/or suspensions, the Steelers’ defense quickly could develop a reputation for the kind of play that previously was confined only to receiver Hines Ward.

8.  Jags inch closer to a house cleaning.

After losing by 25 at home to the Eagles (Jacksonville’s second 25-point loss of the season), Jags coach Jack Del Rio was one more blowout loss away from getting blown out of his job.

The team responded with a rousing win over the Colts, following by a somewhat convincing rout of an unconvincing Bills team. 

But then the bottom dropped out again, before a national Monday night audience in a game against a division rival.  A win would have established the Jags as a force to be reckoned with in the AFC South.  A 27-point loss has re-confirmed that this up-and-down team is on track for another season of failed expectations and missed playoffs.

It likely will be enough to get Del Rio fired.  An unlikely playoff run in 2007 got him a five-year extension with the kind of buyout that kept him insulated from termination after lackluster performances in 2008 and 2009.

As that extension moves toward its final year, Del Rio probably already is in his. 

9.  Browns return to the site of their “first” win.

When the Browns flew the coop to Baltimore and became the Ravens in 1996, the records from the franchise that left remained in Cleveland, waiting for the Browns to return in 1999.

So while the Browns officially had plenty of wins when the 1999 season began, the truth was that the new Browns were an expansion team that hadn’t won anything.

As expected, they weren’t very good.  Fortunately for the Browns, the Saints at the time weren’t much better.  So when the Browns went to New Orleans after starting the season with seven losses and zero victories, Cleveland stole the “W” with a Hail Mary throw from Tim Couch.

Eleven years later, the Saints are the defending Super Bowl champs, and the Browns have only one postseason appearance, and no playoff wins.

If the Browns could swipe another win in the Superdome on Sunday — especially with rookie Colt McCoy at the helm — it could provide the right kind of momentum for a team that desperately needs some.

10.  Only one blackout this weekend.

When multiple games are blacked out, it’s big news.  So when only one game won’t be televised in the market surrounding the stadium that isn’t sold out, it’s at least worth a mention.

This week, the Rams-Buccaneers game fell short of sellout, as have (and will) every Tampa home game this year, presumably even if they host the NFC title game.

Narrowly avoiding a similar fate were the Chargers, who are selling more tickets as the losses pile up, and the Panthers, who at 0-5 may have their best shot at a win this weekend.

The fact that the Raiders aren’t playing at home this weekend helped, too.

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73 Responses to “Week Seven Friday 10-pack”
  1. JoeSixPack says: Oct 22, 2010 12:20 PM

    Mangini may be playing to keep his job with just 1 win on the season
    Personnel wise the Browns are not as bad as in the past
    Unless Holmgren actually wants to be stuck with MangIdiot (as the Browns could pick up some wins after the bye even with Mickey Mouse as a head coach) he might want to use the additional loss and the bye week to make a change.

  2. JoeSixPack says: Oct 22, 2010 12:20 PM

    Mangini may be playing to keep his job with just 1 win on the season
    Personnel wise the Browns are not as bad as in the past
    Unless Holmgren actually wants to be stuck with MangIdiot (as the Browns could pick up some wins after the bye even with Mickey Mouse as a head coach) he might want to use the additional loss and the bye week to make a change.

  3. jjcruiser says: Oct 22, 2010 12:45 PM

    I’d say if Mangini is “playing to keep his job” then the Browns are in even bigger trouble than usual.

  4. jjcruiser says: Oct 22, 2010 12:45 PM

    I’d say if Mangini is “playing to keep his job” then the Browns are in even bigger trouble than usual.

  5. Alpha Male says: Oct 22, 2010 12:45 PM

    Minnesota Vikings, always a class act.
    Mooning, love boats, cock pics, whizzenators…
    And whether they’re choking vs. the Saints, throwing in the towel vs. the Giants, blowing it vs. the Falcons, or just plain sucking when it matters most, they’re always entertaining.
    Good luck in your Super Bowl this Sunday. I’m sure a win over the terrible Packers will keep you MN fatties warm all winter.

  6. Alpha Male says: Oct 22, 2010 12:45 PM

    Minnesota Vikings, always a class act.
    Mooning, love boats, cock pics, whizzenators…
    And whether they’re choking vs. the Saints, throwing in the towel vs. the Giants, blowing it vs. the Falcons, or just plain sucking when it matters most, they’re always entertaining.
    Good luck in your Super Bowl this Sunday. I’m sure a win over the terrible Packers will keep you MN fatties warm all winter.

  7. HarrisonHits says: Oct 22, 2010 12:48 PM

    “A couple of months later, new coach Josh McDaniels essentially fired quarterback Jay Cutler”
    How could you possibly call the immature tantrums by Cutler “McDaniels firing him” ?
    Cutler is a turd whose behavior was oriented only towards getting him out of Denver and he didn’t give a damn about the team or owner that paid he so many millions.

  8. HarrisonHits says: Oct 22, 2010 12:48 PM

    “A couple of months later, new coach Josh McDaniels essentially fired quarterback Jay Cutler”
    How could you possibly call the immature tantrums by Cutler “McDaniels firing him” ?
    Cutler is a turd whose behavior was oriented only towards getting him out of Denver and he didn’t give a damn about the team or owner that paid he so many millions.

  9. FinFan6886 says: Oct 22, 2010 12:51 PM

    One of the most frustrating issues I have with the NFL is the blatant lack of consistency and the even more blatant BS excuse they offer when called on it. I am no fan of the ridiculuos celebrations…they have been around at least as far back as Gastineau’s sack dance. If they are truly “celebrations” and do not belittle the other team, let it go. If it is showboating PR crap designed to get individual attention (sharpie, cell phone, HOF jacket, etc.) then flag it and move on. There is not much class exhibited by the players any more but some of the league “interpretations” are getting more absurd by the hour.

  10. FinFan6886 says: Oct 22, 2010 12:51 PM

    One of the most frustrating issues I have with the NFL is the blatant lack of consistency and the even more blatant BS excuse they offer when called on it. I am no fan of the ridiculuos celebrations…they have been around at least as far back as Gastineau’s sack dance. If they are truly “celebrations” and do not belittle the other team, let it go. If it is showboating PR crap designed to get individual attention (sharpie, cell phone, HOF jacket, etc.) then flag it and move on. There is not much class exhibited by the players any more but some of the league “interpretations” are getting more absurd by the hour.

  11. protectthishouse54 says: Oct 22, 2010 12:53 PM

    So chest-bumping is okay, but if you do it wrong and fall over, 15-yard penalty. Nice NFL. Nice.

  12. protectthishouse54 says: Oct 22, 2010 12:53 PM

    So chest-bumping is okay, but if you do it wrong and fall over, 15-yard penalty. Nice NFL. Nice.

  13. AttackPack213 says: Oct 22, 2010 12:59 PM

    Thank you! I’ve been trying to find out for a week why AP is allowed to violate the rule all day! Although, even if he was praying, I wonder how much his god cares about the outcome of a football game. Thank you god for helping AP score a TD now could you please get busy on world peace, famine, global warming, etc…

  14. AttackPack213 says: Oct 22, 2010 12:59 PM

    Thank you! I’ve been trying to find out for a week why AP is allowed to violate the rule all day! Although, even if he was praying, I wonder how much his god cares about the outcome of a football game. Thank you god for helping AP score a TD now could you please get busy on world peace, famine, global warming, etc…

  15. moscabanzai says: Oct 22, 2010 1:00 PM

    Don’t know what rock you’ve been hiding under Florio, but the Steelers are not the “new bad boys” of the NFL. They’ve been known for their aggressive, at times borderline legal play by the average fan for years. Sometimes the rough play just gets overshadowed by the ever-so Steeler gracious officiating.

  16. moscabanzai says: Oct 22, 2010 1:00 PM

    Don’t know what rock you’ve been hiding under Florio, but the Steelers are not the “new bad boys” of the NFL. They’ve been known for their aggressive, at times borderline legal play by the average fan for years. Sometimes the rough play just gets overshadowed by the ever-so Steeler gracious officiating.

  17. PirateFreedom says: Oct 22, 2010 1:02 PM

    “Presumably, the Broncos didn’t want to give the two men a chance to prove that the Broncos should have kept both of them. ”
    I have to take exception to that, it would be damn stupid to take less value for such an idiotic reason and no organization that wants to succeed would do that.
    I would guess that the bears offered more value, especially the underrated Kyle Orton
    Of course my brain isn’t a nest of snakes the way a lawyers is.

  18. CowboysFansAreAllBandwagonFans says: Oct 22, 2010 1:04 PM

    “…But the Cowboys have too much talent…”

  19. CowboysFansAreAllBandwagonFans says: Oct 22, 2010 1:04 PM

    “…But the Cowboys have too much talent…”

  20. ipeefreely says: Oct 22, 2010 1:19 PM

    Dallas will win. They are a top 1/3 team, face it. The losses have not been blowouts you morons. They will rise this season.

  21. ipeefreely says: Oct 22, 2010 1:19 PM

    Dallas will win. They are a top 1/3 team, face it. The losses have not been blowouts you morons. They will rise this season.

  22. eyesontheprize says: Oct 22, 2010 1:21 PM

    We do not interfere when it comes to communication with God,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told PFT via e-mail earlier this week.
    —————-
    Waiting to see which player exploits this loophole first. Maybe Ochocinco can find a way to convince the league that one of his celebrations is in fact his way of communicating with the Almighty. I agree with the above poster, don’t try and put something in black and white that doesn’t have to be. If you are doing some dumb BS for a celebration, take the flag. Premeditated and in bad tast, take the flag. These are grown men getting paid a king’s ransom, believe it or not NFL, they know right and they know wrong.

  23. eyesontheprize says: Oct 22, 2010 1:21 PM

    We do not interfere when it comes to communication with God,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told PFT via e-mail earlier this week.
    —————-
    Waiting to see which player exploits this loophole first. Maybe Ochocinco can find a way to convince the league that one of his celebrations is in fact his way of communicating with the Almighty. I agree with the above poster, don’t try and put something in black and white that doesn’t have to be. If you are doing some dumb BS for a celebration, take the flag. Premeditated and in bad tast, take the flag. These are grown men getting paid a king’s ransom, believe it or not NFL, they know right and they know wrong.

  24. T3d Strik3r says: Oct 22, 2010 1:33 PM

    Florio says: “the G.M. in San Diego, like the owner in Dallas, doesn’t want a head coach who will try to tell the G.M. how to do his job.”
    Can you please name one GM – (just one!) – who wants a head coach telling the GM how to do his job? No such GM exists. Your reasoning is terrible. Retarded, plain and simple. Your statement can be applied to every single GM in the entire league, and for that matter, every sport in the world. You are just searching for reasons to criticize Smith, and it’s painfully obvious that your reasons are pathetic.
    A.J. Smith is one of the best GMs in the game. If the Chargers get rid of him, some other team will snatch him up and become a contender within a year or two.

  25. T3d Strik3r says: Oct 22, 2010 1:33 PM

    Florio says: “the G.M. in San Diego, like the owner in Dallas, doesn’t want a head coach who will try to tell the G.M. how to do his job.”
    Can you please name one GM – (just one!) – who wants a head coach telling the GM how to do his job? No such GM exists. Your reasoning is terrible. Retarded, plain and simple. Your statement can be applied to every single GM in the entire league, and for that matter, every sport in the world. You are just searching for reasons to criticize Smith, and it’s painfully obvious that your reasons are pathetic.
    A.J. Smith is one of the best GMs in the game. If the Chargers get rid of him, some other team will snatch him up and become a contender within a year or two.

  26. PFTiswhatitis says: Oct 22, 2010 1:36 PM

    Aiello should be penalized (or better yet – fined) for too much BS!

  27. PFTiswhatitis says: Oct 22, 2010 1:36 PM

    Aiello should be penalized (or better yet – fined) for too much BS!

  28. Deb says: Oct 22, 2010 1:37 PM

    I agree with FinsFan6886. Who cares if a bunch of guys jump up and down and hug each other–or fall down hugging each other? I care about the obnoxious showboating stuff like walking up to the goal line and placing the football in the end zone, running around in a fake Hall of Fame jacket, pulling cell phones out of the goal post. Penalize that!
    Having said that, though, the Cowboys who staged the gymnastics routine right in front of the ref after being penalized for something much less noticeable the week before were IDIOTS.
    ———
    The Steelers have always played hard defense and have always been hated by fans of teams not the Steelers. None of that is new. Our players have been flagged just as much as anyone else’s. My only concern is that, by singling out James Harrison on a week when he had ONE questionable hit, the league may have put a target on his back. And by making such an issue of it, James may have painted it neon. Otherwise, I expect it will be business as usual.
    In fact, after all this hoopla around the Steelers, this issue will probably come up again somewhere we least expect it.

  29. Deb says: Oct 22, 2010 1:37 PM

    I agree with FinsFan6886. Who cares if a bunch of guys jump up and down and hug each other–or fall down hugging each other? I care about the obnoxious showboating stuff like walking up to the goal line and placing the football in the end zone, running around in a fake Hall of Fame jacket, pulling cell phones out of the goal post. Penalize that!
    Having said that, though, the Cowboys who staged the gymnastics routine right in front of the ref after being penalized for something much less noticeable the week before were IDIOTS.
    ———
    The Steelers have always played hard defense and have always been hated by fans of teams not the Steelers. None of that is new. Our players have been flagged just as much as anyone else’s. My only concern is that, by singling out James Harrison on a week when he had ONE questionable hit, the league may have put a target on his back. And by making such an issue of it, James may have painted it neon. Otherwise, I expect it will be business as usual.
    In fact, after all this hoopla around the Steelers, this issue will probably come up again somewhere we least expect it.

  30. Raiders757 says: Oct 22, 2010 1:45 PM

    “The fact that the Raiders aren’t playing at home this weekend helped, too.”
    Wish I could say “way to go, taking another stab a the Raiders I see.”, but the fact of the matter is, this is a very sad truth. The Bay Area Raiders fans are in protest, and the only way to show your anger to a hard headed GM/General Partner, is to not show up to the games. I guess it’s better than showing up like a bunch of sheep and making it look like your tolerating a crappy product like some so called “dedicated” fans do for other teams. You have ot get the message across somehow.

  31. Raiders757 says: Oct 22, 2010 1:45 PM

    “The fact that the Raiders aren’t playing at home this weekend helped, too.”
    Wish I could say “way to go, taking another stab a the Raiders I see.”, but the fact of the matter is, this is a very sad truth. The Bay Area Raiders fans are in protest, and the only way to show your anger to a hard headed GM/General Partner, is to not show up to the games. I guess it’s better than showing up like a bunch of sheep and making it look like your tolerating a crappy product like some so called “dedicated” fans do for other teams. You have ot get the message across somehow.

  32. TampaBoy2002 says: Oct 22, 2010 1:48 PM

    agreed… Cowboys are going nowhere… just Like I said all offseason. The Poster Boys get all hyped up and their team has NO drive. NO identity, and NO CHANCE of making the playoffs.

  33. TampaBoy2002 says: Oct 22, 2010 1:48 PM

    agreed… Cowboys are going nowhere… just Like I said all offseason. The Poster Boys get all hyped up and their team has NO drive. NO identity, and NO CHANCE of making the playoffs.

  34. CliveRush says: Oct 22, 2010 2:06 PM

    Bill Belichick (GM) to Bill Belichick (HC of NE Pats) ” I really like this guy, lets go get him. I agree 100%.” End of conflict.

  35. CliveRush says: Oct 22, 2010 2:06 PM

    Bill Belichick (GM) to Bill Belichick (HC of NE Pats) ” I really like this guy, lets go get him. I agree 100%.” End of conflict.

  36. ochostinko says: Oct 22, 2010 2:32 PM

    ipeefreely says:
    October 22, 2010 1:19 PM
    Dallas will win. They are a top 1/3 team, face it. The losses have not been blowouts you morons. They will rise this season.
    ——————-
    The only moron around here seems to be the person convinced that a 1-4 team is in the top third of the league. I don’t care if the losses have been close or not. A loss is a loss. Period.
    Winning close games as opposed to losing them is what separates the top 1/3 of the league from the pretenders.

  37. ochostinko says: Oct 22, 2010 2:32 PM

    ipeefreely says:
    October 22, 2010 1:19 PM
    Dallas will win. They are a top 1/3 team, face it. The losses have not been blowouts you morons. They will rise this season.
    ——————-
    The only moron around here seems to be the person convinced that a 1-4 team is in the top third of the league. I don’t care if the losses have been close or not. A loss is a loss. Period.
    Winning close games as opposed to losing them is what separates the top 1/3 of the league from the pretenders.

  38. cheyanne765 says: Oct 22, 2010 2:32 PM

    how many playoff games has dallas won in last 10 years? great talent huh?

  39. cheyanne765 says: Oct 22, 2010 2:32 PM

    how many playoff games has dallas won in last 10 years? great talent huh?

  40. dirty_dolphin says: Oct 22, 2010 2:43 PM

    FinFan6886 says:
    October 22, 2010 12:51 PM
    One of the most frustrating issues I have with the NFL is the blatant lack of consistency and the even more blatant BS excuse they offer when called on it. I am no fan of the ridiculuos celebrations…they have been around at least as far back as Gastineau’s sack dance. If they are truly “celebrations” and do not belittle the other team, let it go. If it is showboating PR crap designed to get individual attention (sharpie, cell phone, HOF jacket, etc.) then flag it and move on. There is not much class exhibited by the players any more but some of the league “interpretations” are getting more absurd by the hour.
    —————————————-
    Why not have rediculous celebrations? If a player has managed to score they should be entitled to celebrate. If people don’t want to watch it, don’t watch it. But for people like me who find the celbrations hilarious its disheartening that the NFL is turning into the No-Fun-League.
    If players want to do stupid dances or flop to the ground after they score, let them. What is the downside? Who do these celebrations hurt? If anything allowing endzone celebrations would boost interest in the NFL from mild football fans who would watch the odd game as a source of entertainment.
    Bring back the days of the Sharpie, Cell phone, and HOF jacket!!!

  41. dirty_dolphin says: Oct 22, 2010 2:43 PM

    FinFan6886 says:
    October 22, 2010 12:51 PM
    One of the most frustrating issues I have with the NFL is the blatant lack of consistency and the even more blatant BS excuse they offer when called on it. I am no fan of the ridiculuos celebrations…they have been around at least as far back as Gastineau’s sack dance. If they are truly “celebrations” and do not belittle the other team, let it go. If it is showboating PR crap designed to get individual attention (sharpie, cell phone, HOF jacket, etc.) then flag it and move on. There is not much class exhibited by the players any more but some of the league “interpretations” are getting more absurd by the hour.
    —————————————-
    Why not have rediculous celebrations? If a player has managed to score they should be entitled to celebrate. If people don’t want to watch it, don’t watch it. But for people like me who find the celbrations hilarious its disheartening that the NFL is turning into the No-Fun-League.
    If players want to do stupid dances or flop to the ground after they score, let them. What is the downside? Who do these celebrations hurt? If anything allowing endzone celebrations would boost interest in the NFL from mild football fans who would watch the odd game as a source of entertainment.
    Bring back the days of the Sharpie, Cell phone, and HOF jacket!!!

  42. Hawkfan50 says: Oct 22, 2010 3:00 PM

    The Steelers are the new Raiders – dirty players . Have been for years . Hopefully they wind up sharing the same fate eventually and fade into obscurity soon . Someone needs to layeth the smacketh down on Harrison and Ward and give them some of their own medicine .

  43. Hawkfan50 says: Oct 22, 2010 3:00 PM

    The Steelers are the new Raiders – dirty players . Have been for years . Hopefully they wind up sharing the same fate eventually and fade into obscurity soon . Someone needs to layeth the smacketh down on Harrison and Ward and give them some of their own medicine .

  44. iwishiwasindc says: Oct 22, 2010 3:15 PM

    Who did not enjoy watching the “Fun Bunch” do their thing? I hate the Me, Me, Me fist-on-chest pounding, but we fans are being entertained…”Are you not entertained?” Silly stuff is funny and I agree that if game is not delayed and only person hurt is idiot dude who occasionaly jams himself into the stands support, then I say, let’em live it up a bit.

  45. iwishiwasindc says: Oct 22, 2010 3:15 PM

    Who did not enjoy watching the “Fun Bunch” do their thing? I hate the Me, Me, Me fist-on-chest pounding, but we fans are being entertained…”Are you not entertained?” Silly stuff is funny and I agree that if game is not delayed and only person hurt is idiot dude who occasionaly jams himself into the stands support, then I say, let’em live it up a bit.

  46. slickzmoney says: Oct 22, 2010 3:56 PM

    Maybe Harrison “prays” by hitting people in the head. This is clearly a religious bias.

  47. slickzmoney says: Oct 22, 2010 3:56 PM

    Maybe Harrison “prays” by hitting people in the head. This is clearly a religious bias.

  48. Deb says: Oct 22, 2010 4:11 PM

    Hawkfan50 says:
    October 22, 2010 3:00 PM
    The Steelers are the new Raiders – dirty players . Have been for years . Hopefully they wind up sharing the same fate eventually and fade into obscurity soon . Someone needs to layeth the smacketh down on Harrison and Ward and give them some of their own medicine .
    ————————————————-
    The Steelers aren’t dirty players–they’re tough players. And instead of crying and begging for flags Ward hits back.
    Meanwhile that score is still 21-10. Whine on.

  49. Deb says: Oct 22, 2010 4:11 PM

    Hawkfan50 says:
    October 22, 2010 3:00 PM
    The Steelers are the new Raiders – dirty players . Have been for years . Hopefully they wind up sharing the same fate eventually and fade into obscurity soon . Someone needs to layeth the smacketh down on Harrison and Ward and give them some of their own medicine .
    ————————————————-
    The Steelers aren’t dirty players–they’re tough players. And instead of crying and begging for flags Ward hits back.
    Meanwhile that score is still 21-10. Whine on.

  50. FinFan6886 says: Oct 22, 2010 4:53 PM

    @dirty_dolphin: The incidents I referred to are in no way “celebrations”…they are PR stunts. It doesn’t make the game more “fun” because what they are doing has nothing to do with the game or celebrating. These guys are classless “look at me” clowns that mock the game itself. I’ll take an Ozzie Newsome, Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, etc. attitude of professionalism over this concocted garbage anyday. These guys actually spend time during the week trying to figure out something to do to bring themselves attention if they actually score. Some of the spontaneous stuff is OK but these guys run 15 yards down the field doing a chest thumping look at me dance after the RB ran 6 yards for a first down. As I said before that is roughly the same as the McDonalds fry guy with his hands in the air running into the serving area every time he remembers to add the salt. If you turn on football to watch the players dance, i suggest you TiVo “Dancing With The Stars” as there is usually a football player dancing on that show.

  51. FinFan6886 says: Oct 22, 2010 4:53 PM

    @dirty_dolphin: The incidents I referred to are in no way “celebrations”…they are PR stunts. It doesn’t make the game more “fun” because what they are doing has nothing to do with the game or celebrating. These guys are classless “look at me” clowns that mock the game itself. I’ll take an Ozzie Newsome, Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, etc. attitude of professionalism over this concocted garbage anyday. These guys actually spend time during the week trying to figure out something to do to bring themselves attention if they actually score. Some of the spontaneous stuff is OK but these guys run 15 yards down the field doing a chest thumping look at me dance after the RB ran 6 yards for a first down. As I said before that is roughly the same as the McDonalds fry guy with his hands in the air running into the serving area every time he remembers to add the salt. If you turn on football to watch the players dance, i suggest you TiVo “Dancing With The Stars” as there is usually a football player dancing on that show.

  52. BigFatDog says: Oct 22, 2010 5:22 PM

    Florio it’s a little knee-jerk ridiculous to mark AJ Smith as a failure because the Chargers are off to a slow start. Four bad games isn’t a firable offense after building a team that has gone to the postseason five of the last six years. The only year AJ’s team didn’t reach the playoffs was 2005 when MARTY choked worse than Norv with a much better team than this one.
    It’s comical when writers act like they know what’s going on when they don’t have an inkling of the history of how a team arrived to where they are. Simply put, you don’t know Jack about the Chargers and it makes me doubt the credibility of this website that you state obvious garbage about a team I know much better than you.

  53. BigFatDog says: Oct 22, 2010 5:22 PM

    Florio it’s a little knee-jerk ridiculous to mark AJ Smith as a failure because the Chargers are off to a slow start. Four bad games isn’t a firable offense after building a team that has gone to the postseason five of the last six years. The only year AJ’s team didn’t reach the playoffs was 2005 when MARTY choked worse than Norv with a much better team than this one.
    It’s comical when writers act like they know what’s going on when they don’t have an inkling of the history of how a team arrived to where they are. Simply put, you don’t know Jack about the Chargers and it makes me doubt the credibility of this website that you state obvious garbage about a team I know much better than you.

  54. Deb says: Oct 22, 2010 5:41 PM

    FinFan6886 says:
    October 22, 2010 4:53 PM
    @dirty_dolphin: The incidents I referred to are in no way “celebrations”…the y are PR stunts. It doesn’t make the game more “fun” because what they are doing has nothing to do with the game or celebrating. These guys are classless “look at me” clowns that mock the game itself. I’ll take an Ozzie Newsome, Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, etc. attitude of professionalism over this concocted garbage anyday. These guys actually spend time during the week trying to figure out something to do to bring themselves attention if they actually score. Some of the spontaneous stuff is OK but these guys run 15 yards down the field doing a chest thumping look at me dance after the RB ran 6 yards for a first down. As I said before that is roughly the same as the McDonalds fry guy with his hands in the air running into the serving area every time he remembers to add the salt. If you turn on football to watch the players dance, i suggest you TiVo “Dancing With The Stars” as there is usually a football player dancing on that show.
    ————————————————
    Perfect. Excellent. Brilliant. Especially the salt bit.

  55. Deb says: Oct 22, 2010 5:41 PM

    FinFan6886 says:
    October 22, 2010 4:53 PM
    @dirty_dolphin: The incidents I referred to are in no way “celebrations”…the y are PR stunts. It doesn’t make the game more “fun” because what they are doing has nothing to do with the game or celebrating. These guys are classless “look at me” clowns that mock the game itself. I’ll take an Ozzie Newsome, Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, etc. attitude of professionalism over this concocted garbage anyday. These guys actually spend time during the week trying to figure out something to do to bring themselves attention if they actually score. Some of the spontaneous stuff is OK but these guys run 15 yards down the field doing a chest thumping look at me dance after the RB ran 6 yards for a first down. As I said before that is roughly the same as the McDonalds fry guy with his hands in the air running into the serving area every time he remembers to add the salt. If you turn on football to watch the players dance, i suggest you TiVo “Dancing With The Stars” as there is usually a football player dancing on that show.
    ————————————————
    Perfect. Excellent. Brilliant. Especially the salt bit.

  56. Wardo says: Oct 22, 2010 5:54 PM

    Chris Johnson wants his 15 yards (or half the distance to the goal) flag picked up and the Raiders want their 10 yards back from last years Texans game.
    He was praying.
    How about this, leave religion BS out of the game, go to the ground on purpose, 15 yards. 15 yards AFTER the kick return. That’ll stop all of it.

  57. Wardo says: Oct 22, 2010 5:54 PM

    Chris Johnson wants his 15 yards (or half the distance to the goal) flag picked up and the Raiders want their 10 yards back from last years Texans game.
    He was praying.
    How about this, leave religion BS out of the game, go to the ground on purpose, 15 yards. 15 yards AFTER the kick return. That’ll stop all of it.

  58. midwest says: Oct 22, 2010 6:01 PM

    How is 3-3 a failed expectation for the Jags? That team is two years into a total makeover. A .500 record is exactly what should be expected. They are the youngest team in the AFC, and the second youngest team in the NFL.
    Seriously, anything above .500 would be unexpected at this point in time during the rebuild.

  59. midwest says: Oct 22, 2010 6:01 PM

    How is 3-3 a failed expectation for the Jags? That team is two years into a total makeover. A .500 record is exactly what should be expected. They are the youngest team in the AFC, and the second youngest team in the NFL.
    Seriously, anything above .500 would be unexpected at this point in time during the rebuild.

  60. DynastyDays says: Oct 22, 2010 8:17 PM

    No, No, No….what’s really sad is that even if we do turn it around … and that’s a BIG IF at this point, then that will be just enough for Coach Cupcake to keep his job….and then we’ll be playing this broken record again next year. I wish Jerry would at least hire a coach that would hold the title of Head Coach/Assistant GM and fire his son Stephen…hell, he sucks also. You never know, he may be the one making all the ridiculous suggestion anyway….well, what the hell am I thinking…..the only person that Jerry listens to is his own reflection!!!!

  61. DynastyDays says: Oct 22, 2010 8:17 PM

    No, No, No….what’s really sad is that even if we do turn it around … and that’s a BIG IF at this point, then that will be just enough for Coach Cupcake to keep his job….and then we’ll be playing this broken record again next year. I wish Jerry would at least hire a coach that would hold the title of Head Coach/Assistant GM and fire his son Stephen…hell, he sucks also. You never know, he may be the one making all the ridiculous suggestion anyway….well, what the hell am I thinking…..the only person that Jerry listens to is his own reflection!!!!

  62. DailyNorseman says: Oct 22, 2010 9:22 PM

    “Good luck in your Super Bowl this Sunday. I’m sure a win over the terrible Packers will keep you MN fatties warm all winter.”
    Because that’s what this site needed. . .more proof that Viking haters are the dumbest people on the planet.

  63. DailyNorseman says: Oct 22, 2010 9:22 PM

    “Good luck in your Super Bowl this Sunday. I’m sure a win over the terrible Packers will keep you MN fatties warm all winter.”
    Because that’s what this site needed. . .more proof that Viking haters are the dumbest people on the planet.

  64. CKL says: Oct 23, 2010 4:50 AM

    Ummm…when exactly did Cutler become a “great QB”, Florio?
    I say the date was the twelfth of never.

  65. CKL says: Oct 23, 2010 4:50 AM

    Ummm…when exactly did Cutler become a “great QB”, Florio?
    I say the date was the twelfth of never.

  66. fivefivesixnato says: Oct 23, 2010 8:21 AM

    “Good luck in your Super Bowl this Sunday. I’m sure a win over the terrible Packers will keep you MN fatties warm all winter.”
    Funny because Minneapolis is always ranked as one of the fittest cities in America….which just helps to prove that we have more to do with our lives that just worry about Pro Football. If the Vikings loose, Ill be sad for a few min, but after that will get over it. I dont live and die over the fate of a sporting event.
    Oh and BTW the Vikings have one of the highest win vs loss records in NFL history….so yeah…EAT A DICK!

  67. fivefivesixnato says: Oct 23, 2010 8:21 AM

    “Good luck in your Super Bowl this Sunday. I’m sure a win over the terrible Packers will keep you MN fatties warm all winter.”
    Funny because Minneapolis is always ranked as one of the fittest cities in America….which just helps to prove that we have more to do with our lives that just worry about Pro Football. If the Vikings loose, Ill be sad for a few min, but after that will get over it. I dont live and die over the fate of a sporting event.
    Oh and BTW the Vikings have one of the highest win vs loss records in NFL history….so yeah…EAT A DICK!

  68. sand0 says: Oct 23, 2010 11:38 AM

    The NFL should move either the Jags or Bucs to LA. Everyone always talks the stadium angle with a team like the Vikings, but I gotta think the Jags and Bucs are much more in the crosshairs. That state is too into college football to support 3 teams.

  69. sand0 says: Oct 23, 2010 11:38 AM

    The NFL should move either the Jags or Bucs to LA. Everyone always talks the stadium angle with a team like the Vikings, but I gotta think the Jags and Bucs are much more in the crosshairs. That state is too into college football to support 3 teams.

  70. willmose says: Oct 24, 2010 11:16 AM

    Oh why, oh why do you think the ‘boys will win another game this season? Quoting Ditka, “This team may not win another game” (okay so he was talking about his Bears with only 4 games left in that season.)
    The Cowboys are just plain awful. And all the horse manure stacked up by the ‘boys fans and blogger can’t hide the fact. Predictiion. It will only take the Cowboys ten years before they win their next playoff game. Advice to the Cowboys. Use the number one pick in the draft for an new owner, coach or QB in that order.

  71. willmose says: Oct 24, 2010 11:16 AM

    Oh why, oh why do you think the ‘boys will win another game this season? Quoting Ditka, “This team may not win another game” (okay so he was talking about his Bears with only 4 games left in that season.)
    The Cowboys are just plain awful. And all the horse manure stacked up by the ‘boys fans and blogger can’t hide the fact. Predictiion. It will only take the Cowboys ten years before they win their next playoff game. Advice to the Cowboys. Use the number one pick in the draft for an new owner, coach or QB in that order.

  72. Route36West says: Oct 24, 2010 1:04 PM

    “with no team in the conference having fewer than two losses, the Cowboys remain very much alive. To stay there, they need to win this game worse than any regular-season game they’ve needed to win in years.”
    That is 100% untrue. The media tends to always say the most recent problems are the more serious problems the team has seen in a while. As to a week 7 game being the most important regular season game in years for the Cowboys is asinine. What about the week 17 game during the 08-09 season? The winner went to the playoffs and the loser went home. How can that not be the more important game? If the Cowboys lose this week they can still make the playoffs that wasnt the case back then.

  73. Route36West says: Oct 24, 2010 1:04 PM

    “with no team in the conference having fewer than two losses, the Cowboys remain very much alive. To stay there, they need to win this game worse than any regular-season game they’ve needed to win in years.”
    That is 100% untrue. The media tends to always say the most recent problems are the more serious problems the team has seen in a while. As to a week 7 game being the most important regular season game in years for the Cowboys is asinine. What about the week 17 game during the 08-09 season? The winner went to the playoffs and the loser went home. How can that not be the more important game? If the Cowboys lose this week they can still make the playoffs that wasnt the case back then.

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