Comments on: Week Eight picks

By: Avrus

Avrus — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:08:08 +0000

Packers over the Jets, really? Some of you need a football history lesson.
The last two years the Jets have played better than they ever have in franchise history. They’re coming off a bye week with a 5 game winning streak, let’s look at the numbers:
Packers are historically 2-8 all time against the Jets.
Packers are historically 0-3 against the Jets at home.
Fresh off a bye this is a Jets game, 31-23

By: smithopher

smithopher — Sat, 30 Oct 2010 00:04:21 +0000

florio, you’re going by that whole syllogistic thought process where one team beats another, then that team goes on and beats the winning team between that matchup, so when the winner of the second matchup plays the loser of the first, the winner wins, right? well, the ravens beat the jets, the jets beat the patriots, the patriots beat the ravens. there are definitely more examples, but the fact that the saints beat the bucs and then the cards beat the saints doesn’t mean the cards will beat the bucs. the saints have been underachieving, i have no faith in the cards what so ever, and the bucs, while they probably aren’t the best team in the NFC, are one of the better teams in the NFC.

By: mathemagician

mathemagician — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 11:40:21 +0000

Rosenthal currently has a better showing than all of the ESPN “experts,” including the Accuscore projections and the fan-based picks.

Not to mention my 13-year-old son, who was leading or tied with him every week until this one (Rosenthal now leads him by two games). My boy’s a bit bummed – the last two years he consistently outpicked all 30+ online pundits I tracked, and wants to do it again this year.
Maybe I need to find him a job writing a column like this so he can build up some cash for college.

By: dlmcc0909

dlmcc0909 — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 11:20:23 +0000

Green Bay has no chance to beat the Jets on the road even if they were at full strength. Ridiculous.
Tony Dungy saying the Seahawks are the best team in the NFC just goes to show how clueless this guy really is. any of us could have coached those Colts teams to a Super Bowl. I wish he would build a raft for him and Brett Favre to sail away on

By: joetoronto

joetoronto — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 06:37:31 +0000

Something tells me the Bills are gonna shock the Chiefs.

By: GreenLantern1975

GreenLantern1975 — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 21:33:06 +0000

“The jets will have jennings and driver taken care of with their excellent corners but i dont think they will have an answer for james jones and jordy nelson, with jones becoming rodgers’ favorite target in finley’s absence.”
Funniest thing I’ve read tonight….thanks…Will pick up Jordy Nelson tonight for my fantasy football team tonight based on this keen insight…

By: btg19

btg19 — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 16:18:26 +0000

I love how Packer fans truly believe that James Jones and Jordy Nelson would “be #1 receivers on any other team”.

By: somesome

somesome — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 15:39:32 +0000

@arodisgod says:
October 28, 2010 2:02 PM
“Despite the injuries theyre still playing at a high level. Theyve gone from superbowl favorites to just average with the injuries. …..”
Do you read what you write? The Packs barely escaped at home with a TD given that wasn’t and a TD taken from the Vikes which was …. just sayin’ …. Now you are going against one of the top 3 Ds in football on the road … with your third string offensive players … Jackson and Jones

By: RIP__21

RIP__21 — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:35:41 +0000

I’m glad you and the other “experts” are bettin against my boyz this week. That means not only do we win but it will be a blowout, big games from Moss and Torrain. Booooyahhh!

By: HolyMoly

HolyMoly — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:08:19 +0000

Just out of curiosity, do Mike Florio and Gregg Rosenthal actually get paid to write these articles or do they do it for free? If they get paid, the people writing the checks should sue for fraud. Worst. Analysis. Ever.

By: arodisgod

arodisgod — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:02:12 +0000

Sure is butthurt jets fan in here.
The jets are way overrated if for no other reason than being from NY.
The packers are two FGs and one fumble away from being 7-0.
Despite the injuries theyre still playing at a high level. Theyve gone from superbowl favorites to just average with the injuries. some guys on D have really stepped up though, so as long as CM3 is healthy we can do damage. IF we dont have jenkins this weekend i think it will be alot harder. If they activate harris and bigby sanchez will have to throw against the best/deepest secondary in the league.
The jets will have jennings and driver taken care of with their excellent corners but i dont think they will have an answer for james jones and jordy nelson, with jones becoming rodgers’ favorite target in finley’s absence.
The jets flaunt their blitz heavy D, the packers thrive against this. against arguably the best front seven in football in minnesota, they put up 200 yards in 1 quarter when they tried to pressure the packers. after that they had to resort to pulling up and trying to bat down passes because blitzing was not working.
It will be a close game, regardless of who wins.
I just think my packers take their emotion from last week and get out to an early lead and hang onto it.
Packers 17 Jets 14

By: Nomesayin'?

Nomesayin'? — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:46:42 +0000

“They probably need someone with a sturdy shine box.”
LOL. Florio mast’ve watched “Good Fellas”. It was on last night.

By: dmiller68

dmiller68 — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:23:36 +0000

Oakland over Seattle, not
Seattle No. 2 Rush defense in the league (allowing 77.5 YPG) vs. Oakland No. 3 in rushing (158.4 YPG). With well over 200 yards against Denver I would say that skews there No. 3 status. Seahawks are not very good in pass defense from a number of yards allowed (31st) however Oakland is 25th in passing. Seahawks Offense is low for the year 20th Passing / 25th Rushing but they really didn’t get it going until the last two weeks. Seattle rushed 160 yards last week and 120 yards at Chicago. With almost or over 200 yards of Passing both weeks makes for a balanced attack. We have also scored in the last 8 quarters. Seahawks have more Sacks, Interceptions. Oakland has one additional forced fumble. The wild card is defensive / special teams scoring Seattle is No. 3 in the league vs. Oakland is 28th. Oakland is No. 2 in offensive scoring but 25% of their total was last week.
My pick Seattle 27 | Oakland 17

By: darkchild

darkchild — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:04:37 +0000

loL@ “The JETS being overrated”
They’ve done nothing all year but kick ass and take names. Im guessing they should blow everyone out on a weekly basis.
JETS beat Packers easily on Sunday.

By: wmt

wmt — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:36:40 +0000

you put Oakland pretty far down on your power rankings (25 I think) and – as usual – had some sarcastic comment like “we will believe it when we see it” sort of remark to explain why you put them so far down. Yet you both pick them to win this week and be at the 0.500 mark at the halfway point of the season. This just shows me that when you do your power rankings you don’t really put any thought into it. I don’t think the Raiders should be a whole lot higher. Maybe 20 or something like that. But your power rankings, as a whole, are the most meaningless rankings I have ever seen.

By: dougieis2fresh

dougieis2fresh — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:36:19 +0000

The Lions are legit this year they just keep losing in close games its pretty sad

By: wtf__seriously

wtf__seriously — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:31:49 +0000

Kisstherings blabbered “Because the Jets are over-rated and were lucky an aweful call enabled them to beat the Broncos….that just lost to the Raiders by about 50 points.”
Yeah, a facemask that made the receiver’s head turn in the opposite direction of the ball is a terrible call. *sarcasm* They should have just ignored that.
Damn those refs!

By: Rhode Island Patriots Fan

Rhode Island Patriots Fan — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:29:37 +0000

I’m taking the contrarian view here. I believe that as this game goes, so goes the Vikings’ season—and they know it. That’s why, while I’m rooting for the Pats, I’m giving the edge to Minnesota.
This is the NFL game of the week. Not because of Randy Moss’ return to Foxborough. That’s merely a sideshow. The real drama here is: (1) Childress’ response if an injured Favre starts throwing picks again, or is overwhelmed by the Patriots defense; and, (2) the Vikings locker room mood—including Randy Moss’—and the fallout on “Chilly” if Favre is pulled, and the Vikings then go on to lose the game under Tarvaris Jackson.
Some, including myself, believe that the Minnesota Vikings have “pushed all their chips to the center of the table” this year. They will be desperate—and therefore more motivated—to defeat the Patriots. They key for the Pats will be to beat the Vikings through the air—they have no choice—and contain “A.D.”

By: steelkiller

steelkiller — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:25:30 +0000

As a steeler fan I also have to admit that even though the Saints have looked really bad at times this season, they are in a MUST WIN at Home situation this week. And, they don’t want to look bad nationally on Sunday night.
I’m not saying Pittsburgh can’t win. But they to have some devestating Injuries to deal with this week as well in Aaron Smith, and possible Woodley being out. I think Florio might have overlooked this.

By: WNYhell5

WNYhell5 — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:16:41 +0000

FYI… Bills didn’t trade for Milloy. NE dumped him right before the first game and the Bills signed him.

By: DopeBoys

DopeBoys — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:15:12 +0000

“Tony Dungy thinks the Seahawks are the best team in the NFC.”
Completely irrelevant what that idiot thinks.

By: SJ Apollo

SJ Apollo — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:00:56 +0000

“The inability of referee Scott Green to properly apply the supposedly clear rule regarding going to the ground when making a catch not only cost the Vikings a win.”
If I recall, that play happened on 1st and 10 from the 17 which means they potentially had up to 7 more plays (barring defensive penalties) to pick up a touchdown. They failed. They got the ball with a minute left in the first half with three timeouts. They didn’t try to put points on the board. Childress also failed to challenge the Quarless TD which would have been overturned and forced a FG thus taking 4 points off the board. Brett Favre threw 3 INTs. The Vikings had 1st and 10 at the Green Bay 20 before the Vikings got a false start and facemask penalty.
D@mn you Scott Green! Other than overturning the Shiancoe catch, the Vikings played a perfect game! Viking fans and Ray Edwards are right. The league hates the Vikings and they’re hoping to get fan support to drop to a level low enough where the team can be moved to Los Angeles.

By: Kisstherings

Kisstherings — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:59:32 +0000

@SDW2001 says:
October 28, 2010 10:08 AM
The Packers over the Jets…why? Anything can happen, but there is no reason to make this pick.
Raiders over Seahawks? Again, why? Because the Raiders put 3 months of energy into destroying a hapless Broncos team?
Whatever, guys.
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Because the Jets are over-rated and were lucky an aweful call enabled them to beat the Broncos….that just lost to the Raiders by about 50 points.
Like even a blind squirrell can do once in awhile…..Rosenthall seems to have found a nut here.
Jets will be exposed by the Packers. Packers 24 Jets 10

By: Kisstherings

Kisstherings — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:54:12 +0000

Florio – You forget to mention that the failure of the moron ref at the Pittsburgh/Miami games failure to let a play run out and see who had possession of a fumble from the scrum before turning to the crowd and saving them 10 seconds of anticipation by prematurely calling it a touchdown enabled you to win that game.
So I guess you are all square in regards to moron refs blowing calls in games you picked…

By: BigFing

BigFing — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:45:36 +0000

That makes sense the Lions lost to the Packers, Eagles, and Bears who all lost to the Redskins… therefore the Lions will beat the skins… Yah right HTTR

By: EarthQuake

EarthQuake — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:43:56 +0000

First off, this “refs blew the game” business is just factually incorrect. Childres blew the game if anything by not challenging.
Secondly, on the overturned Shiancoe TD, the vikings scored on the next play. This had absolutely no effect on the game.
Thirdly, does anyone really think taking away a TD in the 2nd quarter definitively means the vikings win the game? Anything could have happened, either team could have gone on to blow the other out, but this is simply unfounded speculation.
And finally, the refs sucked for BOTH teams, CMIII was getting held/facemasked ALL GAME and only one penalty was called against the guy “blocking” him.
Additionally, anyone with a Brain could clearly see that Childress lost this game, for A. Not challenging the call, and B. Not going run heavy with AP after the first 1 or 2 INTs, when AP was essentially running all over the packer’s D. Classic

By: btg19

btg19 — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:43:15 +0000

“All the more reason to take the Packers, who are ready to go on a run.”
What? Why? Just cause you want them to after hyping them all pre-season while Mr. August did his usual carving up of pre-season defenses?
So an already overrated team that has suffered a multitude of injuries is going to go on a run @ the Jets, vs. Dallas, @ the Vikings and @ the Falcons? Also still have to play @ New England and at home vs. the Giants?
That statement makes no sense at all.

By: American

American — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:39:31 +0000

” Bucs coach Raheem Morris thinks he has is the best team in the NFC. Less than two years ago, the Cardinals actually were the best team in the NFC.”
” When the league picked this game to be the 2010 English export, it didn’t look like a bad choice. The 49ers were viewed as the favorite to win the NFC West, and the Broncos were regarded as a middle-of-the-road team with the potential to improve. Seven weeks into the season, the 49ers have only one win and the Broncos have two. ”
“At one point in September, it looked like this game would feature a clash of the best two teams in the league. It remains half right, with the Steelers among the best of the bunch and the Saints sliding toward irrelevance.”
Every week, in many of Florio’s takes, he puts these Peter King-esq points that have no point. It is just a way for him to get to the 4 line requirement for his take, without actually requiring any analysis.
I’ve said it for years, Florio needs to stick to analysis of the business and rules of the NFL. His game analysis is awful.

By: steve sonoma

steve sonoma — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:37:35 +0000

Rosenthal is correct-Dallas Clark is great. Unfortunately, he’s on injured reserve.

By: ejtowne

ejtowne — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:36:06 +0000

The Bills did better last week with the Ravens against the run, but allowed a lot of yards through the air, especially to the Ravens TE. The Chiefs will try to run an all out ground attack on Buffalo, while the Bills will do the same. I believe it will be a low scoring game, with the Chiefs unfortunately winning come the end. Bills 9, Chiefs 10.