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Benching Brett Favre is hard to do

Mike McCarthy feels Brad Childress’ pain. 

More than any current coach, McCarthy knows how difficult it can be to manage Brett Favre, quarterback, at the same time as Brett Favre, legend.  Tom Pelissero of ESPN1500.com recounts a story at halftime of the NFC Championship in January of 2008 when McCarthy was frustrated with Favre.

“If that guy weren’t Brett Favre, I’d bench his ass!” McCarthy reportedly vented to others in the corner of a locker room.

The threat was empty, of course.  It was a coach blowing off some steam.  Aaron Rodgers stayed on the sidelines, and Favre threw two interceptions after halftime as Green Bay blew a lead against the Giants on a bitter night in Packers history.

Two years later, that guy is still Brett Favre.  And his larger than life persona and salary make him just as difficult to bench.   Childress can “lean” towards Tarvaris Jackson or grumble about Favre’s play, but Childress knows he signed up for this. 

In many ways, Childress is just along for the ride like the rest of us.  Just like McCarthy.  Just like Eric Mangini, who watched a Favre injury sap the life out of the 2008 Jets season.

Benching Favre would be a career-altering decision for the Childress.  There may be a moment to make that move in this increasingly depressing Vikings campaign, but Week Eight in Foxborough isn’t the time.

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  1. Wukong says: Oct 30, 2010 8:01 PM

    Dude won a single Super Bowl 14 years ago. So sick of people acting like he’s untouchable. Yeah, he’s got longevity and passing/scoring records, but he’s only delivered a single championship in his 20 year career. That’s ALWAYS been my problem with Favre and the media’s obsession with him. He’s so self-involved that he’d gladly sacrafice a team’s chances so he can fling the ball around like a madman.

  2. JoeSixPack says: Oct 30, 2010 8:03 PM

    Childress will be benched before Favre.

  3. Bwa Ha Ha says: Oct 30, 2010 8:03 PM

    Damn I’d like to see Chilly grow a set and bench this guy.
    Childress is gonna get fired anyway, I say sit the diva, go out with some self respect.

  4. Lanman2 says: Oct 30, 2010 8:05 PM

    Favre plays this like a fiddle. His supposed injury will get all the other players focused and playing well. They are being manipulated whether they know it or not. Then, if they win, Favre gets ALL THE GLORY. Sucks to be a Viking these days….

  5. FloriosHairHat says: Oct 30, 2010 8:07 PM

    Maybe Childress is just hoping (like everybody else) that Favre will get his ass busted.

  6. Randomjim says: Oct 30, 2010 8:12 PM

    Let him take himself out because of “pain” or tell him he sits if he isn’t productive.

  7. Pervy *Harvin* says: Oct 30, 2010 8:19 PM

    First of all…good story Gregg,you are improving!
    Favre was 10-of-18 passing for 163 yards with a touchdown and a 104.6 passer rating — and the Packers led the New York Giants 10-6 when McCupcake said that?? Well,he looks like a genius for how it played out, got lucky in his feeling about Favre…
    Chilly will never sit Favre to start tom. Why?
    Chilly:TJacks starting
    Brett:Nope
    Chilly:Yes Brett, it’s best for the team.
    Brett: The man who ended the streak. The coach I slam in my 399 memoir books after retirement as the man who ended my streak. The Trivial Pursuit answer for the coach that ended…
    Chilly: SHUTUP!!! OK,OK….you start Boss…

  8. Beast Of Eden says: Oct 30, 2010 8:19 PM

    Who still thinks the Vikings and Cowboys will be in the NFCC Game?

  9. footballrulz says: Oct 30, 2010 8:22 PM

    Wukong
    Well said.

  10. SanDiegoPackerFan says: Oct 30, 2010 8:30 PM

    The diva was the qb when the Pack won in 97,,,,,,,,,and that’s all his stats then were averages,,,,,,,he lost so many games that he should have won if he wasn;t a frickin drama queen

  11. SanDiegoPackerFan says: Oct 30, 2010 8:31 PM

    The diva was the qb when the Pack won in 97,,,,,,,,,and that’s all his stats then were averages,,,,,,,he lost so many games that he should have won if he wasn;t a frickin drama queen

  12. Tinbender says: Oct 30, 2010 8:32 PM

    Don’t the Vikings have about the same record Oakland had with JaMarcus last year?

  13. andyprough says: Oct 30, 2010 8:32 PM

    “Aaron Rodgers stayed on the sidelines, and Favre threw two interceptions after halftime as Green Bay blew a lead against the Giants on a bitter night in Packers history.”
    ====================
    The Patriots would have roasted Favre for dinner – probably picked him off 5 or 6 times like his infamous playoff game against the Rams – en route to their perfect ending to their 19-0 season
    Mike McCarthy is lucky Brett Favre threw those picks and he didn’t have to have his ass handed to him by Belichick in the Super Bowl. Tom Coughlin and Favre did him a big favor

  14. 84+28=Superbowl says: Oct 30, 2010 8:32 PM

    …..and why can’t we bench him again? We would be 4-2 atleast if it wasn’t for Favre. I don’t care what he did last year. HE IS COSTING US OUR SEASON. He needs to sit and heal up.

  15. righthereisay says: Oct 30, 2010 8:34 PM

    Favre should have benched himself against the Giants. That, is Favre, choosing himself over the team.
    He need 3 td passes for 500 td passes this year. Of course he was coming back, not for the Vikings, but for Favre. He’s also is looking at 300 consecutive starts, needs to play the rest of the season for that.
    This is Favre’s legacy, getting records at the end of his career with no consideration for the rest of the team.
    By the way, Ben Roethlisberger has twice as many Super Bowl wins (by his 5th season) as Brett has in 19.

  16. Lott42 says: Oct 30, 2010 8:35 PM

    Who has more rings Favre or Brady? So why is Favre treated with such awe? His INT rate to TD rate in the playoffs is disgrace. I am so sick of the Favre Side Show. Can we please move on to something more relevant?

  17. Bob says: Oct 30, 2010 8:37 PM

    Childress played personal chauffeur the first season and sent a posse the second year to bring him back. If Favre goes belly-up and takes the Vikings’ season with him, Childress gets fired. Childress has no credibility left, which is why he has no choice but to go down with the sinking Favre ship. I don’t know why anyone is surprised by Childress’ reluctance to follow up on the threats and bench Favre.

  18. CaptainFantastik says: Oct 30, 2010 8:39 PM

    Of course they won’t bench him. They aren’t paying him a million bucks per game to ride pine. They are paying him a million bucks per game to do what he does best……kill his team’s season and drive nails into the coffin of his legacy.

  19. jamesz23 says: Oct 30, 2010 8:41 PM

    In that championship game a few years ago against the G-Men Favre put on an absolute clinic of making the wrong read time and again. The pass rush on him was not that bad. There were receivers open but Favre kept throwing to the unopen ones. He threw more to Koren Robinson than Greg Jennings. If you don’t believe me look up the final interception screen shot – everyone else was open except the guy he threw to Donald Driver. But FOF, Hauschild and the other Favre lovers will blame it on lack of running game, McCarthy and Al Harris and give Favre a pass just like ESPN and the other Favre homers.

  20. chtaah2010 says: Oct 30, 2010 8:43 PM

    favre gives the vikings best chance to win plan and simple when will you guys understand Jackson Sucks.

  21. Sterling says: Oct 30, 2010 8:46 PM

    Favre won only one Super Bowl- which, by the way, is exactly the same number of Super Bowls Peyton Manning has won – b/c he played largely for bad teams with bad management. When Holmgren was there, good management. Afterward, not so good. People forget that Favre spent 7 frickin’ years, from 1999-2005, under under the hapless Ray Rhodes and the even more hapless Mike Sherman. He never had an All-Pro WR during that time, no Rodney Harrison or a Jerry Rice (Donald Driver is not a dude who can stretch the field). And yet most of those years the team went to the playoffs. The fact that Favre has done what he has done without the excellent management of teams like the Colts or the Patriots speaks volumes. As a Packer fan, I wish our team was managed more like those two.
    So you can hate Favre if you want, but he makes every team he plays on better.

  22. jvw says: Oct 30, 2010 8:47 PM

    Chilly gets what he asked for……who would of thought leaving in the middle of camp to pick up Brett last yr would be a bad idea? Dumb ass…..if you treat him like an untouchable then he is untouchable…….I will say this, I got my popcorn and I’m enjoying the show lol

  23. TheFoo says: Oct 30, 2010 8:48 PM

    Bench him for a guy with a career passer rating less than 10 points higher than Favre’s this year…when he’s apparently so terrible he should be taken out back and shot.
    TJoke is turrible, if it was Sage, fine, discuss it. But Favre without feet is still a better option than Jackson.

  24. Chuck says: Oct 30, 2010 8:48 PM

    Pervy *Harvin* , you say that like this drama is a good thing.

  25. TheWizard says: Oct 30, 2010 8:48 PM

    Just let it be over soon………..

  26. objectivity says: Oct 30, 2010 8:49 PM

    My God leave the man alone. If he plays like crap on Sunday then pull him. Stories 3 years old from Anonymous sources ???? So what… I can make up a story too. If that story were true why is it just now coming out. Just sayin …….

  27. TheDPR says: Oct 30, 2010 8:52 PM

    Wukong said it well.
    What I don’t understand is the media obsession with the guy. He had a great season last year but for the most part he hasn’t been very good for a long time and his last championship was WELL OVER a decade ago. He’s the INT king. He cares more about himself than his team. And worst of all he hit on that FSU skank when he was with the Jests.
    He’s an expensive version of Jake Delhomme.

  28. Bos Celtics says: Oct 30, 2010 8:59 PM

    Give Bill “the tuna ” Parcells 2 weeks and he will coach his team to a Super Bowl win .Just make sure that he is not trying to land a job 300 miles
    south on I -95.Bret’s ring as well as his reputation
    were made when the Pats Head Coach decided
    that his next gig was more important than a New England title .

  29. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 30, 2010 9:00 PM

    If this is true it really shows how horrible and unprofessional of a coach Mike McCarthy is. First of all, Favre’s first half stats were just as good if not better then the opposing QB. Secondly he should have been more worried about the defense who couldn’t stop the Giants from getting a first down to save their lives, a defensive line and LB corps who couldn’t stop the run, and Harris letting Burris beat him all day.
    I seriously doubt this story is true because it doesn’t pass the bull@#$% test, but if it is it only makes McCarthy’s coaching performance in the NFC title game look that much worse.

  30. Thrillhouse1285 says: Oct 30, 2010 9:02 PM

    “Favre was 10-of-18 passing for 163 yards with a touchdown and a 104.6 passer rating — and the Packers led the New York Giants 10-6 when McCupcake said that?? Well,he looks like a genius for how it played out, got lucky in his feeling about Favre…”
    Except that Brett was missing wide open receivers and generally playing like a dipshit, despite his decent statistics.
    Not saying Aaron would have played any better at that point, but Eli Manning sure wasn’t having trouble in all that cold, which is something that a lot of people tend to forget.

  31. football genius says: Oct 30, 2010 9:04 PM

    If the refs hadn’t blown two TD calls the Vikes would’ve won last week and this would be a different conversation. Now they have to go play Marcia Brady and the refs? not good

  32. Mr. Lagoo says: Oct 30, 2010 9:04 PM

    Isn’t it obvious to everyone…the guy isn’t enjoying football this year – he’s craves the attention and tongue baths from the media, and just wants to pad his stats so Peyton will never catch him…that’s all he’s playing for this year!
    I thought they had a chance at beating New England with T. Jackson…now they’re going to get killed.

  33. HOUSE says: Oct 30, 2010 9:05 PM

    I guess MIN is lookingto draft a QB this coming year. Brett Favre is a poison and has single-handedly screwed MIN this year. I’m not a MIN fan nor do I like/hate Favre, I’m just tired of hearing about him. He is a choker!!! He has lost several big games, because of stupid decision making. If it was anyone else, they’d be riding the pine, but not Brett. He played a piss poor game last week and that’s not even mentioning the injury. Give it a rest, give him a rest!

  34. fleet10 says: Oct 30, 2010 9:09 PM

    I think it’s important to note that Mangini didn’t want Favre. That was Woody and Tennenbaum (?).

  35. PackFaninPackLand says: Oct 30, 2010 9:10 PM

    Tom Pelissero ????
    He’s your credible source for this nonsense ???
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    I’m throwing the bull$hit flag on this one. Check the stats, Favre had an excellent first half. He was 10 of 17 for 163 yards with 1 TD and 0 Int’s for a passer rating of 110.6 – go ahead check them for yourself. And that was in 40 below zero wind chill factor weather too.
    But hey, why let actual F-A-C-T-S get in the way of a good bull$hit story, right Pelissero ???
    Pelissero is/was a well known (in these parts anyway) hater of Brett Favre, and decides he wants HIS 15 minutes (or is it 15 seconds) of fame, and the folks at PFT are all too willing to bow down and believe any nonsense uttered. Amazing.
    He’s the Jenn Sterger of the Green Bay Press-Gazette. Or at least he was at that time, until the GB PG fired his a$$. Gee, maybe for too many BS stories like this ??? After having never said this story … EVER … for nearly 3 years, NOW he brings it up ??? Yeah, right.
    This is total BS. Maybe Pelissero will claim Favre showed him pictures of his dick too !

  36. JimmySmith says: Oct 30, 2010 9:12 PM

    I admit that I not very good with numbers but 14 turnovers, 51 points off of those turnovers, 2-4 record, ranked 30th in QB rating and 41 years old seem to add up to a one way ticket out of town.
    But Favre is not alone, the great Johnny U went to San Diego to finish his career, Joe Montana was a shell of his former self in KC so players often over-estimate their ability one season too long and have to be gently shown the door.
    But it will take a strong head coach to pull the trigger. Strong is not a word often associated with a guy who wears dresses, throws his players under the bus and spends most of his press conference complaining like the little bitch that he is.
    Still we want Klink to have a long career as the head coach of the Vikings so I hope this plays out in such a way that it ends up looking like its all BrINT’s fault. So if BrINT starts and fails, everybody will give Klink a free pass for the week. And as he has demonstrated at last week’s press conference, the last thing in the world that he wants is accountability for his own team.

  37. sasquash69 says: Oct 30, 2010 9:20 PM

    Say what you want about the man. Hes won more then hes lost. He has a shot at any time during any drive to score. His Packer teams were average at best for most of his career. If someone was willing to give me 12 million plus every year I would waffle with it as well. The man is one of the best ever, and hes milking it for all its worth. Maybe he knows Manning may break all his records so he wants to put them as high as possible. I’m 30 and I can’t do what I could do 5 years ago, my knee and back hurt every morning. Hes 41 and still slinging it with 20 year olds, I say god bless. Besides his wife can take half and probably will he should keep playing.

  38. green man says: Oct 30, 2010 9:24 PM

    Wukong – Spot on, this has always drove me nuts too. Even in that SB he played pretty mediocre and he wouldn’t have a ring if Desmond didn’t play like Superman that day. This goof is the biggest choke artist in the history of play-off football. It goes all the way back to when he flopped for Gap Tooth, he sold his soul that day and he hasn’t been the same since.
    There was another play in the play offs I think that same year where he could have sacrificed himself for a first down but instead he did a gay little underhand ball flip and duck out of bounds…in another play off loss. Just 2 years earlier we all witnessed a very old but determined Elway kill himself on a nearly identical play.

  39. jusford says: Oct 30, 2010 9:33 PM

    The only person who benches Lord Favre, is Lord Favre.

  40. prophet of the light says: Oct 30, 2010 9:37 PM

    If he is benched, he will quit. It’s that simple. If you want him to play at any point after this, you MUST start and play him the entire game.

  41. brew-ski says: Oct 30, 2010 9:37 PM

    This is perfect for BRint! If he leads the Vikes to victory-all I can say is WOW! If they lose, he has the built in excuse of injuries. This guy is an ego maniacal narcissist. For a supposed great QB, how many games has he lost with an INT at the end? Well for starters, the last two NFC championship games, scored tied, ball in his hands, and wait OH NO a pick! As TJ says, ” the one thin I admire about Brett is he is not afraid to the throw a pick”. Can you believe that? Bunch of media ball washers. If they want to identify those text pics, they should ask John Madden, or Peter King, or any other National Media writer. But at least he keeps the blogs humming.

  42. Little Tommy says: Oct 30, 2010 9:41 PM

    Damn I’d like to see Chilly grow a set and bench this guy.
    Childress is gonna get fired anyway, I say sit the diva, go out with some self respect.
    ==================================
    Amen.

  43. contract says: Oct 30, 2010 9:41 PM

    “If that guy weren’t Brett Favre, I’d bench his as!”
    All that quote tells me is that the coach is a punk.

  44. footballisking says: Oct 30, 2010 9:54 PM

    It is only tough to bench players if you let the inmates run the asylum

  45. Mr$teve says: Oct 30, 2010 9:55 PM

    # Beast Of Eden says: October 30, 2010 8:19 PM
    Who still thinks the Vikings and Cowboys will be in the NFCC Game?
    The Vikings will be there.
    Even if they loose this week to go 2-5. They are going to be 6-5 4 weeks later.

  46. neuropsych says: Oct 30, 2010 9:59 PM

    As a Vikes fan, I always hated Favre with the Pack; respected the hell out of him, but dispised him nonetheless. Last year was the most fun I have ever had as a Vikes fan and now I cannot wait for this nightmare to be over with. He has ruined his image in every possible way. I cannot stand to watch sports programming because it’s all we hear about. Don’t get me wrong, I will be cheering like hell for the purple every game but it will be in spite of Brett Favre. I hate to say it, but all the packers fans that I was fighting with last year on this site were absolutely right.

  47. Deb says: Oct 30, 2010 10:02 PM

    Not that I expect this comment to actually make the board, but I’d like to congratulate McCarthy on the two Super Bowl trophy’s he’s won since Favre left.
    What’s that?
    No Lombardis since Favre left?
    But at least the Pack made the conference championship … No?
    Ah, yes … that’s right. Without Favre, McCarthy didn’t make the NFCCG for the 2008 season and Favre made it without McCarthy in 2009.
    Kinda takes the sting out of his comments, doesn’t it?

  48. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 30, 2010 10:03 PM

    SanDiegoPackerFan says: October 30, 2010 8:30 PM
    The diva was the qb when the Pack won in 97,,,,,,,,,and that’s all his stats then were averages
    You care to back up that statement with actual….well…stats?
    Thought so

  49. theJets2010 says: Oct 30, 2010 10:08 PM

    i thought no 1 man was above the team? clearly wrong with this stupid hick who everyone loves

  50. darthbaiter says: Oct 30, 2010 10:10 PM

    I wouldn’t trade Norv Turner for Farve…
    Go BOLTS!

  51. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 30, 2010 10:12 PM

    green man says: October 30, 2010 9:24 PM
    Wukong – Spot on, this has always drove me nuts too. Even in that SB he played pretty mediocre and he wouldn’t have a ring if Desmond didn’t play like Superman that day.
    I love it when people try to rewrite history. 3 first half TDs by Favre, a 50 yarder to Rison, an 80 yarder to Freeman, and running for another is a mediocre performance?????? Are you kidding me? Don’t let you’re Favre hatred get in the way of actual facts. If it wasn’t for Favre’s amazing first half, the Packers overrated defense which went soft in the 2nd half could have lost the game for us. All Desmond’s return for a TD did was increase our lead from 1 TD to 2 TDs, a lead that Favre already provided.

  52. frank booth says: Oct 30, 2010 10:15 PM

    Viking fans, It’s never too early too start blaming the refs for tomorrow’s game. I suggest that you get a jump on the whining and complaining by starting well before the game.
    Last week, the whining didn’t end until Friday, so maybe we can move things along on the excuse end this week.

  53. winslow says: Oct 30, 2010 10:17 PM

    Benching Favre is hard to do because the Vikings back-up quarterback is not Joe Montana, it is Tavaris Jackson, who does most profoundly stink. That is why Minnesota chose to overpay Favre dramatically, inducing him to return for another Super Bowl run. The Vikes have zero chance of winning a championship with Jackson.
    That is why benching Favre is hard to do. If Peyton Manning were on the team, Favre would be wiping the bench with his tuchus.
    Childress knows that Favre gives the Vikings their only shot at a title, even if it now looks like a long shot.

  54. bruce campbells chainsaw hand says: Oct 30, 2010 10:21 PM

    Sterling –
    Your argument is ridiculous. Favre didn’t need a great WR, because apparently he makes everyone better – right?

  55. Facts Domino says: Oct 30, 2010 10:33 PM

    Favre would have slapped McCarthy so hard it would have straightened his bad eye out.

  56. Hauschild says: Oct 30, 2010 10:33 PM

    It’s pretty disappointing how many people still fail to realize how much money Brett Favre makes a lot of people, and who take great pleasure and almost pride in bashing him and vilifying him and making him into anything other than a highly competitive and productive professional athlete.
    Does Mike McCarthy actually believe he’d have even been in the NFC Championship game without Favre? Has he won a playoff game since Favre left? Has Man Genius gone 9-7 since Favre left his side? Does anybody believe Minnesota sniffs the Super Bowl without Favre last year? And, people, this ain’t rocket science.
    I thought Chilly understood his role in that he realizes he isn’t Lombardi and needs help to win a Super Bowl, but this past week makes me wonder if he’s beginning to believe he had a lot to do with that 12-4 record last season.
    Plain and simple: NFL offenses need to be commanded, and Brett Favre is a commander. You can hate that fact, you can hate him, you can simply hate, but you realize deep down inside – right before that last conscious moment before sleep – that the man is a 1 in 300 million combination of talent and inner drive and we’re all extremely fortunate to have watched, and still are, watching him work his magic. If you think the Vikings’ season is over, come and talk to me around week 17.

  57. omniplayer says: Oct 30, 2010 10:51 PM

    WOW!! I can’t believe how pathetic you people sound. Have you really not accomplished enough in your life to resort to caring about another MANS life accomplishments. You Pus-ie- really care that much. I wish I had your time but am glad I don’t have your sense of being a no body. I would probably k-ll myself for being such a worthless piece of sh-t that it would really bother me what another MAN does!!!!!!!!!!

  58. PackerFanTastic says: Oct 30, 2010 10:51 PM

    Wukong you hit the nail on the head.

  59. Notoroius B.U.G. says: Oct 30, 2010 11:09 PM

    Nothing like a Brett Favre story to boost your comment numbers Florio…

  60. PackFaninPackLand says: Oct 30, 2010 11:15 PM

    Re: contract at 9:41 PM
    Click on the link provided – the ACTUAL sentence written by Pelissero is:
    “As those who witnessed the scene tell it, McCarthy was venting in a corner of the locker room when, in a particularly stressful moment, he blurted out something to the effect of, “If that guy weren’t Brett Favre, I’d bench his ass!”‘
    So, as only PFT can, they took a statement and worked it into what THEY WANTED IT TO SAY in true Keith Olbermann fashion. Not only did Pelissero NOT say what this post makes it seem like he said, he didn’t even hear it himself. He’s recounting what someone who was supposedly there, supposedly heard. Read the actual sentence he wrote again.
    I can tell you who probably floated this nonsensical story out there, Jason Wilde. All you had to do was read just one of his columns about Favre to know that Wilde is a WELL KNOWN hater of Favre here in Wisconsin, that is, before he got fired from the Wisconsin State Journal.
    But the Jenn Sterger of ESPN1500.com (Pelissero) decides nearly THREE YEARS LATER, to trot this BS out now ??? And then PFT just takes the word from someone who was supposedly told by someone else who was supposedly in the room, who may or may not have it heard it himself (or, and I love this part of the supposed QUOTE, “something to the effect of”) and runs with it as gospel.
    Wow, GREAT QUOTE, “something to the effect of” ! Good grief, and this site is owned by a supposed lawyer ???

  61. Blackn'Gold says: Oct 30, 2010 11:22 PM

    Coach Childress is in a tough spot. I suppose it’s up to Farve’s health to predetermine the coach’s decision. Coach Childress is the coach of the Vikings not the coach of Brett Farve. I would assume he’s thinking in the best interests of the team.
    GO STEELERS!

  62. The Doctor says: Oct 30, 2010 11:24 PM

    Brett deserves the opportunity to start this game, but be put on a short leash. If things start turning south, he needs to be pulled.

  63. youdontsay says: Oct 30, 2010 11:24 PM

    Brett Favrrrre is the most overrated player in the NFL. He’s a pick machine. His action has grown old with that gray beard of his. It’s ALL about him. He is such an egotist:
    “I’ve played with injuries that most players wouldn’t even attempt to play with”. “I heal faster and quicker than most other players”.
    Go text some more pictures of your chubby Brett and then talk about what a God-fearing man you are. Hang it up, pal! You’re a jerk Favrrrre.

  64. Pervy *Harvin* says: Oct 30, 2010 11:26 PM

    Chuck says:
    October 30, 2010 8:48 PM
    Pervy *Harvin* , you say that like this drama is a good thing.
    ————————————————–
    Nope. Just telling it like it is man.No sugar coating it.

  65. spudz says: Oct 30, 2010 11:36 PM

    If I was the coach I would bench him just to watch him cry….
    As a fan of the Pats…..I really really hope he plays Sunday

  66. jamesz23 says: Oct 30, 2010 11:45 PM

    Shocker – Hauschild’s love affair with Favre continues, quite the man crush you have for #4.

  67. Someone says: Oct 31, 2010 12:11 AM

    I swear to God if Brett Favre retired there would be a lot of trolls out of a job patrolling PFT for their daily fix…

  68. ClaysWife says: Oct 31, 2010 12:11 AM

    wukong hit the nail on the head

  69. PackFaninPackLand says: Oct 31, 2010 12:18 AM

    Re: green man at 9:24 PM
    “Even in that SB he played pretty mediocre and he wouldn’t have a ring if Desmond didn’t play like Superman that day.”
    ————————-
    Green man you are a delusional fool. Favre’s quarterback rating in SB XXXI was 107.9 vs. the Patriots – which is phenomenal.
    In fact, it was over 107 in all 3 of the playoff games that year, and was even 91 in the Super Bowl vs. Denver – which is excellent.
    “Mediocre” ??? Ummmm, no. Go, take another hit on the crackpipe bud.

  70. pfii63 says: Oct 31, 2010 12:23 AM

    Here’s hoping that the New England defense ends Brat Favre’s season tomorrow.
    Go Patriots!

  71. FarvesFooPa says: Oct 31, 2010 12:30 AM

    HEY Little Tommy YOUR A BEARS FAN STAY OFF OUR REPORTS YOU DOUCHE. STICK WITH HUB ARKISH. YOU FIB!

  72. Deb says: Oct 31, 2010 12:31 AM

    Like I said when I posted this two and a half hours ago:
    Not that I expect this comment to actually make the board, but I’d like to congratulate McCarthy on the two Super Bowl trophies he’s won since Favre left.
    What’s that?
    No Lombardis since Favre left?
    But at least the Pack made the conference championship … No?
    Ah, yes … that’s right. Without Favre, McCarthy didn’t make the NFCCG for the 2008 season and Favre made it without McCarthy in 2009.
    Kinda takes the sting out of his comments, doesn’t it?

  73. Deb says: Oct 31, 2010 12:31 AM

    Not that I expect this comment to actually make the board, but I’d like to congratulate McCarthy on the two Super Bowl trophies he’s won since Favre left.
    What’s that?
    No Lombardis since Favre left?
    But at least the Pack made the conference championship … No?
    Ah, yes … that’s right. Without Favre, McCarthy didn’t make the NFCCG for the 2008 season and Favre made it without McCarthy in 2009.
    Kinda takes the sting out of his comments, doesn’t it?

  74. Ruvell200 says: Oct 31, 2010 12:42 AM

    Let’s not forget about the “4th and 26″ game…
    Ahman Green and Davenport go for 220….
    Packers D sacks the “unsackable” (at the time) McNabb 8 times and basically shuts the Eagles down the entire game.
    Favre is erratic the entire game and hucks up maybe the worst interception ever thrown in a game, let alone a playoff game, in overtime, to Brian Dawkins.
    Every story in every paper in the land was about the failure on 4th and 26….

  75. GBPjeff52 says: Oct 31, 2010 12:50 AM

    Favre puts fans in seats with a false promise of good things to come. Then rips your spine out with his uncalled for “gunslinging” interceptions.
    see…
    2001-02 Playoffs GB v STL
    Favre threw for 281 yards, he tied a playoff record by tossing six interceptions, three of which were returned for touchdowns
    2003-04 Playoffs GB v PHI
    Defensive back Brian Dawkins intercepted Favre’s first pass of the ensuing drive and returned it 35 yards to the Packers 34-yard line to set up the game winning FG in OT.
    2004-05 Playoffs MIN v GB
    Safety Brian Russell intercepted a pass from Favre and returned it 14 yards to the Packers 28-yard line. One play later, Culpepper threw a 19-yard touchdown pass to Burleson, putting the Vikings up 24-10
    2007-08 Playoffs NYG v GB
    On the second play of overtime Favre’s pass, which would be his last as a Packer, was intercepted by Giants defensive back Corey Webster, who returned the ball 9 yards to the Green Bay 34-yard line.
    2009-10 Playoffs MIN v NO
    On the next play, the Vikings decided to pass in an attempt to move the ball into better field goal range, but Porter intercepted a desperate throw from Favre, ending the drive and sending the game into overtime.

  76. Ruvell200 says: Oct 31, 2010 12:50 AM

    Anyone remember the game before that Giants game?
    I do. It was the game Ryan Grant ran for 201 yards and 3 Td’s, setting the new Green Bay Packers single game playoff rushing record.
    It’s easy to forget…

  77. GrandsoOfCoach says: Oct 31, 2010 1:58 AM

    For those railing on Pelissero, last year he worked for the Green Bay Press Gazzette. So he’s got some good contacts there. I’d say it’s reliable. Just passing on the facts. Resume rabid bashing on your slant of choice in 3…2…1…

  78. kello says: Oct 31, 2010 2:21 AM

    Re: PackFaninPackland:
    Here’s the truth of the matter:
    Early in his career, Favre was a playoff dynamo. In the 1993-97 seasons with Green Bay, he went 9-4 in the postseason with 23 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.
    Those were the good old days for Favre. Since the 1998 season, Favre is 3-6 in the postseason with more interceptions than touchdowns: 16-14.
    I was at the Giants game. He looked old, tired and that last pass, remember that? He looked like he just wanted to get off the field and get warm.
    So, you must have got hooked on crack in 1998, right?
    ps, Brett isn’t even the best Packer quarterback of all time. That would be Bart Starr.

  79. TexansMikeLCTX says: Oct 31, 2010 5:52 AM

    This is truly his last year. Do you really think Chilly is going to put himself between a legend and the last ten games he plays? noone would want that on their resume.
    Right or wrong, this is not an issue. It’s a fact of history in the making.

  80. FlipDaScript says: Oct 31, 2010 7:19 AM

    Brett Favre certainly helped to make the Packers relevant again, but so did guys like Mike Holmgren, Ron Wolf, Reggie White, Leroy Butler, etc.
    For all his greatness though, he was very ordinary in the playoffs and in some cases Brett turned into BrINT. He singlehandely threw away games against the Rams (2002), Eagles (2003), Vikings (2004), Giants (2007) and Saints (2009 with the Vikings). He also had a critical pick against Dallas (1995) that probably cost them a Superbowl win that year. Thankfully, Desmond Howard bailed him out the following year but the reality is that for everything the guy has done he’s come up small time and time again when it matters the most.
    He’s idiocy has taken off to new levels with the whole diva act (am I going to retire or not, will I start or not, etc) and personally I am loving this right now. What comes around goes around. He’s been a fraud for some time now and it’s good to see him exposed for who he really is- a self centered, egotistical guy that is really just all about himself despite the “aw shucks” persona and the “I play for the love of the game” BS. He thrives on being the center of attention to a point where I think mentally there’s something wrong with the guy.
    You get what you get Vikings fans. Have fun with it the rest of the year as your season continues to circle the drain today.

  81. County K 66ers says: Oct 31, 2010 7:27 AM

    It was Reggie White that deserved the most credit for the Super Bowl win.

  82. steelerfan9598 says: Oct 31, 2010 8:32 AM

    “So you can hate Favre if you want, but he makes every team he plays on better.”
    Sure, right up until the playoffs when he kills them with ridiculous interceptions. I don’t hate Favre the player, I hate Favre the attention whore.

  83. voiceofrealism says: Oct 31, 2010 8:34 AM

    # omniplayer says: October 30, 2010 10:51 PM
    WOW!! I can’t believe how pathetic you people sound. Have you really not accomplished enough in your life to resort to caring about another MANS life accomplishments. You Pus-ie- really care that much. I wish I had your time but am glad I don’t have your sense of being a no body. I would probably k-ll myself for being such a worthless piece of sh-t that it would really bother me what another MAN does!!!!!!!!!!
    sounds like it bothers you a lot what other people do. I’ll watch the obituaries. Good luck.

  84. Ambrose says: Oct 31, 2010 9:06 AM

    He shouldn’t play…he knows it…but the streak must continue at all costs..especially because he “wants what is best for the team.”

  85. robsterNY says: Oct 31, 2010 9:10 AM

    @ omniplayer
    YOU sound like you have some issues of your own to tend to. If you dont like us football fans talking about this ,then dont come in here. Did you get a draft notice in the mail saying you had to participate here?..You must be a Favre lover and your hurt that your hero is DONE. Well…just relax cheese-dick and try decaf.

  86. footballrulz says: Oct 31, 2010 9:48 AM

    @ Ruvell
    I do. It was the game Ryan Grant ran for 201 yards and 3 Td’s, setting the new Green Bay Packers single game playoff rushing record
    Don’t forget the snow…..and also after he fumbledon the first two drives to put the Pack in a hole. Makes it even better
    That was one excellent performance.

  87. SJ Apollo says: Oct 31, 2010 9:55 AM

    This hurts to watch, but the last words out of my mouth with Favre as a Packer were “Fahhhking Favre.” I sat in silence for the rest of the game.
    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-playoffs/09000d5d80638d16/Anatomy-of-a-Play-Favre-s-OT-interception
    The colors have changed, but this is still accurate:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZxzeBxTz_Y&feature=related

  88. GRpatriot says: Oct 31, 2010 9:55 AM

    Brett Fraud is like the old guy with enough seniority that you can’t get rid of! He is a legend in his own mind! I do respect that he has played every game, but man his ego!
    Basically this guy has done nothing but end season with INT’s in the last game of his teams season, 2 consecutive years!!! That will be his legacy, if the streak gets broken! The Streak deflects the facts he hasn’t won the big one since 96…last year was anamoly!!! People need to look at the bigger picture. Doesn’t compare to Montana, Brady or Bradshaw! Elway has 2, Rothlesberger 2.
    Plus we find out he’s a perve! I really believe he’ll play, start whatever, and lose. He won’t go away quitely and thier season will be all about the Streak, forget the playoffs this year! Which the QB will be very happy about! Afterall is really is all about Favre!

  89. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 31, 2010 10:05 AM

    I see the bitter Ted THompson fans/Favre haters have taken over this thread in their usual attempt to rewrite history.
    Now watch their hypocrisy as they attempt to explain away this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-jXI302iOs

  90. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 31, 2010 10:07 AM

    GRpatriot, Brady could only win a SB when he and old man Bilicheck were cheating. When Matt Cassell stepped in and basically played lights out football, he basically proved that Brady was a system QB.

  91. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 31, 2010 10:14 AM

    @Ruvell2000
    A. Favre played a great game at the Eagles, basically winning the game for the Packers until Coach Sherman chickened out on a 4th and short and then the unprecedented in playoff history 4th and 26th conversion. Yes Favre lost it in overtime, but the coach and defense lost a sure win in regulation.
    B. Funny you bring up Grant in the in the playoff game in 07 against the Seahawks, but yet fail to mention the 2 careless fumbles that spotted the Hawks 14 points to start the game and then the three resulting Brett Favre drives that gave the Packers a 21 – 14 point lead? After that, Grant had his day but not before he did everything in his power to ruin it. Without Brett Favre, Grant does not get those touches later in the game.
    Also care to explain Grants pathetic performance against the Giants the week after? That’s right, it was all Brett’s fault that he lost to a team who also beat Garcia, Romo, and Brady in the Superbowl.

  92. Alpha Male says: Oct 31, 2010 10:19 AM

    Deb says: October 30, 2010 10:02 PM
    Ah, yes … that’s right. Without Favre, McCarthy didn’t make the NFCCG for the 2008 season and Favre made it without McCarthy in 2009.
    ______________________
    The Packers have put themselves in a position to compete for and win a Super Bowl for years to come.
    Making the NFC Title Game is swell and all, but obviously that’s as far as Favre can take any team. The bet is that Rodgers will take them farther. We’ll see what happens.

  93. JohnnyBallsack says: Oct 31, 2010 10:27 AM

    “If that guy weren’t Brett Favre, I’d bench his ass!” McCarthy reportedly vented to others in the corner of a locker room.
    ———————————————–
    That quote said it all. If he WASN’T Favre…but the teams Favre has played with know full well about his ways. You gotta take the good with the bad, and most of the time the good has outweighed the bad. They pay him big bucks to do the gunslinger thing. They can’t expect him to be Brett Favre all season and then morph into someone else.

  94. Pervy *Harvin* says: Oct 31, 2010 10:39 AM

    Alpha Male says: The Packers have put themselves in a position to compete for and win a Super Bowl for years to come
    ===================================
    No they haven’t.Aaron Rodgers will never take you to where Favre did…you know,a SB win! He is a stat whore choker….

  95. Craphonso says: Oct 31, 2010 10:51 AM

    I was at that NFC game in 97. Favre’s first half stats were so good b/c he was throwing mainly safe passes and then hit an 80 yd td to Driver, which was really all Driver’s doing–DD did a shake and bake on the CB at the line of scrimmage and left him in the dust.

  96. Craphonso says: Oct 31, 2010 10:54 AM

    Also, the Packers couldn’t run the ball against the Giants in that game b/c the really fast D-Lineman were taking away Grant’s cutbacks.

  97. Calistin says: Oct 31, 2010 11:07 AM

    Vikings fans need to shut it. They begged all offseason for Brett to come back.
    Sorry kids, but you get the bad with the good.

  98. SJ Apollo says: Oct 31, 2010 11:22 AM

    “Also care to explain Grants pathetic performance against the Giants the week after? That’s right, it was all Brett’s fault that he lost to a team who also beat Garcia, Romo, and Brady in the Superbowl.”
    If you take away this play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5dXTZCgL7c
    then Favre’s rating for the game is 49.4. This play – which is pretty much all Driver – was the outlier. Favre was awful in that game. There were two guys that cost the Packers. Al Harris, who was repeatedly beat by Plaxico Burress so the defense couldn’t get off the field, and Favre, who continued to miss his targets which couldn’t keep the offense on the field. Post Holmgren, Favre’s playoff record is 4-6. In the 6 losses, Favre’s QB ratings have been:
    53.5 (6 INTs)
    54.4,
    82.1 (OT INT)
    55.4 (4 INTs)
    70.7 (OT INT, 49.4 without Driver’s play)
    70.0 (INT in final 19 seconds)
    My dad used to say that if you constantly find yourself in a situation where everybody else is an a-hole, chances are you are the a-hole. This is Favre. If he’s constantly finding himself in backbreaking playoff losses, he’s probably the cause of the backbreaking playoff losses.
    The guy was an outstanding regular season quarterback. Early in his career, he had some playoff success. He let Packer fans experience something Viking fans never have, a Super Bowl championship. But time and time again, he fails to deliver when it matters most. Last week was a perfect example. He nearly brought the Vikings back for a victory – except the Vikings would never have been in a hole if he didn’t spot the Packers 14 points.
    The Favre jihadists baffle me. No matter how many times he screws up on and off the field, it’s the refs, it’s the receivers running the wrong routes, it’s the media making stuff up, it’s a girl in it for the money, etc. He’s done, people. He had a good run, better than most, but whatever he had last year (cough HGH), has run out. He hasn’t sealed the deal since January of 1997.

  99. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 31, 2010 11:25 AM

    # Craphonso says: October 31, 2010 10:51 AM
    I was at that NFC game in 97. Favre’s first half stats were so good b/c he was throwing mainly safe passes and then hit an 80 yd td to Driver, which was really all Driver’s doing–DD did a shake and bake on the CB at the line of scrimmage and left him in the dust.
    That’s funny, considering that Driver was in his Sophomore season at Alcorn State in 97, but don’t let facts get in the way of your spin.

  100. SJ Apollo says: Oct 31, 2010 11:52 AM

    “That’s funny, considering that Driver was in his Sophomore season at Alcorn State in 97, but don’t let facts get in the way of your spin.”
    I don’t want to speak for craphonso, but I’m pretty sure that was a typo referring to the 07 NFC game (which occurred after the 07 season in Jan 08). Care to respond to my 11:22 post?

  101. Deb says: Oct 31, 2010 11:55 AM

    Alpha Male says:
    The Packers have put themselves in a position to compete for and win a Super Bowl for years to come.
    Making the NFC Title Game is swell and all, but obviously that’s as far as Favre can take any team. The bet is that Rodgers will take them farther. We’ll see what happens.
    ————————————————-
    Speaking as a Steelers fan whose team has playing in seven Super Bowls and won six, I can promise you that the only position from which you can proceed to the Super Bowl is the Title game. Until Rodgers can actually get to one, I wouldn’t bet on him winning many Super Bowls.

  102. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 31, 2010 12:16 PM

    SJ Apollo,
    Just FAvre’s and Harris’s fault? You must be as dumb as your dad and his childish sayings. The O’Line who couldn’t block all game were not at fault? The DLine who couldn’t get pressure on Manning or stop the run all game? How about a head coach who decided to practice indoors all week or made absolutely no halftime adjustments.
    Remember how the defense let the Giants open up the 2nd half with a TD drive that ate up the first 8 minutes? Probably not, you’re Favre hatred got in the way. btw, a “Favre Jihadist” would be somebody who wants to go after Favre. Which would describe you. Is that another idiotic saying from your pops?

  103. Craphonso says: Oct 31, 2010 12:36 PM

    WIsconsin_Myself
    That was a typo–I meant ’07, but when you correct for that, my statement is completely accurate. Nice pickup of a meaningless gotcha point though. Stay classy.

  104. SJ Apollo says: Oct 31, 2010 1:01 PM

    Wisconsin_myself, you really are delusional.
    The Packers o-line gave up zero sacks. Ryan Grant only had 13 rushing attempts. Yes, his average per carry was lackluster, but 13 attempts doesn’t cut it. That’s on McCarthy and that’s still his problem to this day. If Favre is as great as you say, he should have carried them in this game. That’s what legends do. Instead, he couldn’t keep them on the field. For example, his 3rd down production was:
    1st qtr:
    3rd and 8 on the 50: incomplete to Driver
    3rd and 12 on the GB 29: -1 yard to Robinson
    2nd qtr:
    3rd and 5 GB 36: Incomplete to Jones
    3rd and 10, NY 34: Incomplete to Martin
    3rd and 10, NY 47: Incomplete to Driver, Illegal contact, automatic 1st down
    3rd and 8, NY 19: 1 yard to Jackson
    3rd qtr:
    3rd and 8, NY 27: 3 yards to Driver, unnecessary roughness on the Giants, automatic 1st down
    4th qtr:
    3rd and 10, GB 49: 20 yds to Driver (Favre was intercepted on the next play, but the Giants fumbled, Packers got the ball back at the 19. Favre missed Robinson before two negative runs by Grant)
    3rd and 10, GB 33: 7 yards to Morency
    3rd and 15, GB 12: 5 yards to Lee
    So the Packers were 1 of 11 of 3rd down conversions. 10 of those were passes. They were awarded two additional first downs based on penalties. Favre was awful on that date.
    BTW, a jihadist in this case would be one who declares a holy war. For example, Islamic jihadists are fighting to defend Allah’s honor. Favre is your God, you’re fighting your Holy War to defend his honor. If you’re going to try to insult my intelligence, at least be right.

  105. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 31, 2010 1:04 PM

    I don’t want to speak for craphonso, but I’m pretty sure that was a typo referring to the 07 NFC game (which occurred after the 07 season in Jan 08). Care to respond to my 11:22 post?
    Settle down there francis. Your post wasn’t up yet on the board when I typed my 11:25 response.
    As far as his “typo”, any WR in the league could have ran those yards for a TD when the Giants defense messed up that bad and let him behind. Otherwise Driver didn’t do squat. For the rest of the game, he and the rest of the Packer WRs couldn’t separate themselves front he Giant’s defenders to save their lives.

  106. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 31, 2010 1:07 PM

    Packer seasons 2008 – 2010 have done wonders for Favre’s legacy. They proved that Favre was NOT the problem in GB and was NOT holding the team back from the SB. With Favre gone, the stupid idiotic mistakes from the Packers are still there. The same overrated defense getting exposed in the playoffs. The same lack of running game in crucial times. ANd now you have Erin Rodgers choking in big games.
    The PAckers were supposed to take off with Favre gone. What happened?

  107. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 31, 2010 1:33 PM

    SJ Apollo,
    Since you are Cherry picking plays in the game, how about you take a look at all the 3rd down plays on the other side of the ball and analyze each one of those 24 first down conversions. Then with a straight face try to tell me again how only Harris was the problem on defense. I anxiously await your results.
    btw, take a look at Tom Brady’s third down performance against that same D in 70 degree weather while you’re at it.

  108. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 31, 2010 1:36 PM

    “The Packers o-line gave up zero sacks. Ryan Grant only had 13 rushing attempts. Yes, his average per carry was lackluster, but 13 attempts doesn’t cut it. That’s on McCarthy and that’s still his problem to this day. ”
    ohh, so now the coach had something to do with the loss. I thought you said it was just Favre and Harris. Changing your story so fast?

  109. SJ Apollo says: Oct 31, 2010 1:39 PM

    “The PAckers were supposed to take off with Favre gone.”
    Who said that? They just thought they had a better future with Rodgers than Favre. Compare the numbers. Rodgers was better in 08. Favre was slightly better in 09. Rodgers is better this year, and next year, and the year after, etc.
    Enough wasting my time here. Time to watch football all afternoon.

  110. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 31, 2010 1:48 PM

    “The Packers o-line gave up zero sacks. Ryan Grant only had 13 rushing attempts. Yes, his average per carry was lackluster, but 13 attempts doesn’t cut it. That’s on McCarthy and that’s still his problem to this day. ”
    ohh, so now the coach had something to do with the loss. I thought you said it was just Favre and Harris. Changing your story so fast?

  111. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 31, 2010 1:56 PM

    Erin was better in 08 with 6 wins?? And lets not forget how McLardy changed the offense into a pass first offense after Favre left in an attempt to run up Erin’s stats.

  112. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 31, 2010 1:57 PM

    Favre in the Packer’s current offensive framework would have 5000 yards and 40 TDs, easily.

  113. Wisconsin_Myself says: Oct 31, 2010 1:58 PM

    “Enough wasting my time here. Time to watch football all afternoon. ”
    Can’t type and watch football at the same time, eh? I will take that response as capitulation on your part. Did your dad also tell you to know when you;ve been beaten, tuck your tail between your legs, and run?

  114. vikings=worstfranchiseandfans says: Oct 31, 2010 6:03 PM

    he never shuts up.
    remind you of anyone?
    Deb…..
    Pop a Midol!

  115. Deb says: Oct 31, 2010 8:39 PM

    vikings=worstfranchiseandfans says:
    October 31, 2010 6:03 PM
    he never shuts up.
    remind you of anyone?
    Deb…..
    Pop a Midol!
    ———————————————–
    Your post doesn’t make sense. Seems you’ve popped too many Midol.

  116. Ruvell200 says: Oct 31, 2010 9:12 PM

    Wisconsin Myself is FoF. Two people in this world can not possibly love Favre this much.

  117. Mike Daly says: Oct 31, 2010 10:39 PM

    It is NOT a difficult decision to bench Bully Brett. He costs you games and has been doing it for 20 years. Green Bay finally snapped out of it and refused to let him bully his way back to the Packers and they’re a better team now because of it.

  118. paranoidandroid says: Nov 1, 2010 5:47 PM

    tired of reading some of this crap.
    for those saying stuff like roethlisberger has more in 5 years than favre does is 19…….yeah thats clever the way you worded that. then again favre never had that kind of defense and aside from the years they ran ahman green into the ground he’s never had a solid top tier running back. GB management never brought in any real talent around him. he was stuck with whatever they drafted and developed.
    those saying he’s only here for records…..yeah, he’s taking punishment for records. did you morons not watch the nfc championship game? thats why he came back, he wanted another chance at a ring.
    some of you make yourselves look so damn stupid. you should really think before you type.

  119. Mike Daly says: Nov 1, 2010 7:00 PM

    paranoidandroid – the reason there continues to be a lot of Favre talk is the myths about Favre keep getting peddled – and they’re strikingly similar to the myths about Dan Marino –
    * Favre/Marino doesn’t have a good enough defense.
    *Favre/Marino doesn’t have a run game.
    *Favre/Marino aren’t getting talent around them.
    All are false. Favre had defenses that were top-ten in the league in fewest points allowed seven times in his career; he had more than enough of a ground game; he had talent around him and has plenty of talent around him in Minnesota. The fact remains Favre’s failures revolve around Favre – he is the one who throws the INTs; he is the one who disregards the game plan and instead forces the game to be about him, with subsequent failure being the result. “He’s taking punishment for records.” He faked injury in the Patriots game and that’s why Vikings fans at Gillette were booing him. He came back both to pad his volume stats and because he wants to stick it to the Packers for actually standing up to his bully boy act.
    Favre has enormous volume stats but Drew Bledsoe, Steve McNair, Warren Moon, Jake Delhomme, and Norman Esiason were better quarterbacks, because they were team players.

  120. paranoidandroid says: Nov 2, 2010 12:17 PM

    that last bit about better team players, thats sweet. Delhomme was never a leader. Esiason was close but never got there. Bledsoe was good but only for a short period of time. Moon was good but always came up short and McNair was solid once they allowed him to be.
    you know what your list of players have in common? none of them ever won the big game. ask fans whether they would choose a good teammate versus championships, wonder what they would take?

  121. Mike Daly says: Nov 2, 2010 7:01 PM

    “None of them won the big game.” Favre didn’t, either – he was bailed out in his one title by Desmond Howard and Bill Parcells. Delhomme was a leader – he led the Panthers to three playoff runs. Bledsoe was good for longer than a “short time.” They and the others I listed were better quarterbacks than Favre, because they were team players. paranoidandroid needs to break with the defenses of Favre.

  122. CaptainMarvel says: Nov 3, 2010 12:23 PM

    It would be retarded to bench Favre. There is no backup. T-Joke is terrible. Plus Favre played great last year. This year’s been so-so, but anything is better than T-Joke. Childress is a complete idiot too; you gotta factor that in. And if McCarthy’s such a genius, why hasn’t Rogers improved this year?

  123. paranoidandroid says: Nov 3, 2010 1:36 PM

    by your reasoning regarding delhomme ”leading” the panthers to the playoffs i guess favre was a leader because they went to the playoffs 12 times while he was the qb.

  124. fresno500 says: Nov 3, 2010 7:38 PM

    THAT’s exactly what needed to happen, not firing Moss!!!!

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