Holmgren sounds like a guy who wants to coach again

NFL_holmgren_250.jpgAs the Browns prepare to play the Patriots this weekend, coach Eric Mangini has to worry not only about his former boss but also his current one.

Browns president Mike Holmgren, who had kept a low profile for much of the season, suddenly has gotten chatty.  He held a press conference earlier this week, during which he declined to close the door on returning to the sidelines.

“If I keep wearing a suit or not,” Holmgren said, “we’ll see.”

Earlier today, Holmgren appeared on The Dan Patrick Show, and the former Packers and Seahawks coach continued to send out clues regarding a possible return.

“I don’t know,” Holmgren said as to whether he’ll return to coaching.  “I’m not evading anything.  I don’t know. . . .  One of the challenges for me is just watching the game.  I’m in the box and I’m with some other guys and I’m ranting and raving and jumping around and it’s a challenge for me.  It’s new for me.”

As to the desire to be on the sidelines, Holmgren said, “I don’t know if it ever leaves you.”

It sounds like a huge factor in the decision-making process will be his wife, Kathy, who apparently would remind the Big Show of the big problems that coaching in the NFL creates.

Patrick eventually said he thinks Holmgren will coach again.  “You do?” Holmgren said, possibly not clear what to say once Dan shot an arrow into the heart of the matter — and struck the bull’s-eye.  “Well, you know maybe we can talk about it if it happens next year.”

Later, Holmgren added, “We’ll see.”

Indeed we will.  And Mangini is going to be one of the folks monitoring the situation most carefully.

41 responses to “Holmgren sounds like a guy who wants to coach again

  1. Harbaugh, Holmgren, Cowher… who will be in Carolina next year? Or will they turn to someone no one has ever heard of? I expect the latter.

  2. Holmgren said similar things at the time he was hired. His most telling comments this week were that he thought the Browns WR’s were fine from a talent standpoint but not being utilized correctly by the coaches. There is no doubt the Browns are improved and more competitive this year, but when you compare them to teams with similar records last year, they are behind the Rams, Raiders, Bucs and Chiefs in wins and losses.
    I think Mangini better get his resume updated.

  3. Based on what I know about certain organizations. I am sure the Vikings would LOVE to have this ex-packer at the top of thier organization.

  4. Stay in the box Mike; we’re doing just fine with Eric…We are 2 players away from all those close losses being wins…

  5. finish out another year or two in cleveland. hopefully thompson/mccarthy will be out in g.b. by then. reuninte with ron wolf and welcome back brett favre for the ceremony he deserves in g.b. if the packers board gets their act together, this is how it should play out and the fans may forgive as well. get mike sherman to be your offensive coordinator, too. just like ‘ol times…

  6. The big question Browns fans should be asking is: If he returns to coaching, will he still be the G.M., as well?
    Seattle was a suck-fest while he was doing both those jobs, and didn’t recover until his boss forced him out of the G.M. role. It could even be argued that the team didn’t get better after that, the NFC West just got worse.

  7. You have to be trusted…by the people that you lied to…so that when they turn their back on you, you’ll have the chance to stick the knife in…

  8. There is no doubt that Mangini was only kept because the Browns won last 4 games and had some public support. It was a last minute choice to keep him. Eric’s coaches were all looking for other jobs up to the wire.
    I feel Holmgren likes Colt McCoy and thinks he needs good offensive coaching. Holmgren also is a 4-3 defense guy. Rob Ryan’s crazy and unreliable blitzing drives him crazy. I think Holmgren will go after Jon Gruden hard before considering coaching himself.
    Gruden was a big fan of Colt around draft time and grew up a Browns fan in Sandusky. He always gushes about Cleveland football when he’s here or talking about Browns. If he can’t get Gruden there is also no doubt Holmgren will be on Browns sideline next year. I say this as a fan of Eric Mangini.

  9. As with Shanahan and Gruden, Holmgren didn’t exactly ride out of Seattle on a wave of glory.
    Holmgren coached 17 years. His teams won 10 or more regular season games 7 times.
    He had a four year sweet spot in Green Bay with Favre as his QB where he won 10+ games including a Super Bowl.
    In 10 years in Seattle hs won 10+ games three times.
    I’m not saying he sucks but I could have coached Favre and Reggie White to a Super Bowl win.
    He has NEVER coached a team to more than 13 regular season wins, although he did that three times.
    I guess his saving grace is that in 17 years of coaching his teams reached the playoffs 12 times but that is almost a backhanded complement to be in the playoffs 12 TIMES and come away with only one Super Bowl win.

  10. All you Niners,Vikings,Packers fans need to wake up. He signed a 5 year contract with Browns and runs the WHOLE SHOW. He even stands in for owner at NFL meetings. He’s not leaving that power to just coach your teams! Please. If he coaches again it WILL be in CLEVELAND. He’s also not the GM. Tom Heckert conducted the Browns draft! Holmgren only stepped in to draft Colt McCoy. The Browns are Holmgren’s team to shape in EVERY way. A dream come true for football men. Move on guys.

  11. @Florio – everyone knew this from the start. Holmgren was not going to take all the losses from this season (and possibly next) on his pretty Hall of Fame coaching record – he was going to keep Mangini around to absorb those losses until there was enough talent to win.
    Right now, he’s just trying to figure out if Colt McCoy is a real option for the future at qb, or if it is going to take another year in 2011 to bring in another qb prospect and bring him up to speed. If Colt plays well enough the rest of the year, expect to see Mangini unceremoniously dumped, along with most of his assistants, at the end of the year.
    Mangini can’t complain however – he should have been fired last year, so he’s getting at least an extra year’s pay regardless of how this goes down – maybe an extra two years.

  12. I’ve always argued that it is a sad day when a mortal human begins to believe his own hype. Holmgren began doing this when he left Green Bay and now he’s achieved Parcells-dom in his own mind.
    So sad to see because men like this never seem to be happy or satisfied and their refusal to let go of the fact they were once hugely successful affects their performance, and it shows in their weathered faces.

  13. I was happy when Randy Lerner hired Holmgren. Finally some credibility in our front office. But the more this guy talks, the more un-needed pressure he is putting the organization that he’s in charge of. I don’t know if that’s a good thing or not. As a poster said above, we are a couple players away from contending. Be a little more fair to Mangini, he has the ship headed in the right direction.
    Go Browns

  14. Once he builds that team to his standards, I wouldnt be surprised to see Holmgren give Mangini the boot and Mike don the headset again. The Brownies are going in the right direction for the first time since the late 80s. And it wont be for one season, they will be good year in, year out I think. I hope so, I remember when the Steelers/Browns game meant something. I’m a Steeler fan but I am rooting for the Browns to be a real NFL team again, if only to renew the rivalry and all the nastiness that goes along with it.

  15. If the Holmgren took the Vikings job, it would be another name added to the Packer fans list of “traitors”. Curly Lambeau, Lombardi, Favre, Holmgren . Even though players and coaches move from team to team throughout the NFL, always have and always will, it doesn’t change the perception in GB.

  16. “The Big Show”, an overrated egomaniac who’s done nothing for years as a coach or GM. Let him return to the sideline. Today’s player and game have passed him by.

  17. DukeofMadness says:
    November 4, 2010 1:56 PM
    The big question Browns fans should be asking is: If he returns to coaching, will he still be the G.M., as well?
    Seattle was a suck-fest while he was doing both those jobs, and didn’t recover until his boss forced him out of the G.M. role. It could even be argued that the team didn’t get better after that, the NFC West just got worse.
    =================================
    I think you make a good point – but if it were set for him to return, I think the set up would be the same as Andy Reid’s in Philly, where even though he’s the head coach and there is a GM spot, he has serious input on the Player Personnel decisions.
    With Lerner, he would have free reign to do whatever it was he wanted, simply because of the work he did in Green Bay and Seattle, and he’s earned it and deserves it.
    Would hate to see Mangini go, for the sake of consistency, but also I think every coach should get a 4 year evaluation period. If progress is made, give’em a 2-year extension and they maintain in that period – then you go long term.

  18. He’s not the GM now, he’s the team President and if he goes back to the sidelines it will be on the Browns sidelines. During the interview from yesterday the question that was asked was “are you still commited in turning the Browns around? His answer was absolutely but if it’s in a jacket or not we’ll see. The team GM is Tom Eckert(sp)

  19. DJ84 says:
    November 4, 2010 2:15 PM
    All you Niners,Vikings,Packe rs fans need to wake up. He signed a 5 year contract with Browns and runs the WHOLE SHOW. He even stands in for owner at NFL meetings. He’s not leaving that power to just coach your teams! Please. If he coaches again it WILL be in CLEVELAND. He’s also not the GM. Tom Heckert conducted the Browns draft! Holmgren only stepped in to draft Colt McCoy. The Browns are Holmgren’s team to shape in EVERY way. A dream come true for football men. Move on guys.
    ___________________________________
    Sure….because a guy who has seen nearly every inch of the US wants to spend his golden days in the armpit of the US. This is a tactic that Parcells used to get his point across withput actually saying it and offending the Browns. I’m sure Mrs. Holmgren just can’t get enough of the Cleveland weather, the R & R HOF, and…..yeah. Those 2 things.
    You can almost guarantee he’s getting some sniffs for work elsewhere. Probably go to MN to try and stick the Packers, like the other turd who tried that maneuver.

  20. DJ84 says: November 4, 2010 2:08 PM
    Gruden was a big fan of Colt around draft time and grew up a Browns fan in Sandusky. He always gushes about Cleveland football when he’s here or talking about Browns.
    ———————————–
    Name something/someone Gruden doesn’t gush over?
    I think Mangini has the team headed in the right direction. They play hard for him (harder than Jerry’s Kids do for Jerry Jones), and you can’t seriously expect to turn around a team that has been down for this long in just a season or two.

  21. Where are all these people getting the idea that Holmgren will be working somewhere other than Cleveland next year?

  22. Holmgren sounds like a guy that’s picked his coach as the scapegoat.
    Nice going. Throwing his subordinate under the bus to save his own job.
    There should be a weight limit on coaches. I hate all the fat ones. They should be too damn busy coaching to get fat.

  23. TD40 says:
    November 4, 2010 3:53 PM
    Where are all these people getting the idea that Holmgren will be working somewhere other than Cleveland next year?—————————————————————————–
    Exactly. Mangenius is fired and he’s the GM/HC. He ai’t going anywhere.

  24. Allegedly he is close with Jerry Jones and the two speak lovingly about one another.
    I could see him joining Dallas….but does he have enough (health) left in him to deal with the fragile Dallas roster?
    That’s where John Fox, Gruden and Cowher are likely better suited : the sideline rant + facemask grab of idiot player.

  25. Yeah…Dallas.
    It’s every great coaches dream to work for an egomaniacal, self-centered Arkansas hillbilly that won’t sit his ass in his seat. How has that worked out for Dallas so far?
    After Wade is gone, Jerrah is going to have to beg a high school coach to work for him. It sure as hell won’t be Holmgren…

  26. Mike, you left out the rest of the quote,”You mean for the Browns? Hahahahahaha that’s a good one”

  27. Cowher – Carolina Panthers.
    Holmgren – Cleveland Browns.
    Fisher – stays in Tennessee (what idiots actually think he’d go to Chicago?)
    Cowboys – no one wants the job.

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