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League hits James Harrison with another big fine

The NFL once again has lowered the boom on Steelers linebacker James Harrison.

According to Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Harrison has been fined $20,000 for a hit applied on Sunday night to Saints quarterback Drew Brees.

Once again, Harrison’s agent is leading the charge against the penalty.

“The hit on Drew Brees was not to the head and he didn’t bury him or anything,” agent Bill Parise told Bouchette.  “I don’t think they know what they’re doing and everyone’s paying the price for it.”
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  1. pfinfl says: Nov 4, 2010 1:10 PM

    Used his headgear as a weapon, so I guess the fine was justified, but it was not a vicious hit. It was just an unnecessary cheap shot.

  2. Newguy says: Nov 4, 2010 1:10 PM

    Casey Hampton hit Brees harder on that play.
    The League is determined to make it’s point, even when it doesn’t make sense.

  3. Priest says: Nov 4, 2010 1:10 PM

    “Here’s the deal, for anyone who wants to complain about the rules without, you know, reading them.”
    You’re an idiot Florio. Are you even a fan of football, or do you enjoy just being an ass?
    That hit was nothing, Harrison dipped his head by inches.

  4. In & Out Burger says: Nov 4, 2010 1:10 PM

    “(Way to endear your client to 280 Park Avenue, Bill.)”
    Someone’s feeling smug today. The NFL isn’t paying Harrison, the Steelers are. The Steelers have made it clear that they think the new rules are ridiculous. So really, James’ agent is doing a fantastic job of endearing his client to the ones paying his bills. Way to think critically on that though Florio. You seem to try your very best to allow your vision to see only a tiny desolate part of every issue in sports.

  5. Floriostoupee says: Nov 4, 2010 1:12 PM

    Of course Florio agrees with the commentary on the video. He wouldn’t dare grow a set and dispute the awesome knowledge of Chris Collinsworth(less) *cough cough*

  6. Citizen Strange says: Nov 4, 2010 1:12 PM

    Borderline call at best. Roethlisberger takes those shots 10 times a game and it doesn’t even appear on the ref’s radar to throw a flag.
    But Brees and Brady are Goodells personal Little Lord Fauntleroys so nobody is allowed to come within 5 yards of them or all hell breaks loose.
    To fine Harrison for that hit is 100% WRONG.

  7. HarrisonHits says: Nov 4, 2010 1:12 PM

    Good, maybe the scumbag really will retire this time.
    The Steelers seem to be trying to take the lead league in whining away from the Ravens recently. The crying over this fine could put them into the lead in that category.

  8. LionsFan-StopLaughing says: Nov 4, 2010 1:13 PM

    Good, keep fining him. If he doesn’t want to play the way he should then maybe will retire.

  9. TakingBackSundays says: Nov 4, 2010 1:14 PM

    Uh oh, here we go again. Better get the tissues ready for the onslaught of Steeler fans…

  10. RexRyanHasntSeenHisDinkySince1987 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:14 PM

    There is no question about that hit. That video should be sent to all NFL teams as a “This is What You Do If You Want to Get Fined” video.
    That is the exact thing the NFL wants to avoid. Why cant Harrison put his shoulder into Brees’ hips???? Why does he need to use his helmet as a weapon? No attempt to tackle, no attempt to wrap up, that is the exact thing that Merriweather got nailed for. I admit Merriweather’s was far worse, but it was the same thing. No attempt to do anything but smash the opponent with your helmet. Why does Harrison even wear shoulder pads. Considering he never uses his shoulder to tackle anyone, he might be even faster if he gets ride of them….

  11. bear0402 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:14 PM

    He will get it. One day.

  12. bet1111 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:14 PM

    I guess you never played football, if thats a fine they should just wear skirts and pink from now on. This is football not soccer or baseball.

  13. treeman says: Nov 4, 2010 1:15 PM

    Suspend him, the fines aren’t working.

  14. justen1 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:15 PM

    Excellent. Keep’em coming.

  15. shaggeez says: Nov 4, 2010 1:16 PM

    if anything, it should just be a late hit and leave it at that. I don’t know why you assume that anyone who disagrees with you must not have read the rules. And anyways, who elected you as sheriff?

  16. mikeyb1313 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:16 PM

    remember last year when the saints dirtily went after farve with late hit after late hit so they could amke the superbowl?? where was goodell then?
    nfl is corupt

  17. Phokus says: Nov 4, 2010 1:16 PM

    Only complete idiots are “paying the price”. It’s unfortunate that Harrison NEEDS to play dirty and can’t adapt like everyone else does.

  18. JackDiesel says: Nov 4, 2010 1:16 PM

    I’m a Saints fan and that hit wasn’t fine worthy.

  19. RLScherrer says: Nov 4, 2010 1:17 PM

    OK Florio, I watched the video. What about that hit was vicious? Late, perhaps, but not vicious. He did not lead with his head, he bumped him in the back with his chest and shoulder within 1-2 seconds of Brees releasing the ball. It looked more to me like Brees either took a dive or tripped over the other Steeler at his feet. Otherwise I’m not even sure he would have fallen down. And the hit wouldn’t have been late had Harrison not been held (as usual) by an offensive lineman wrapping his arm around his neck.

  20. PFTiswhatitis says: Nov 4, 2010 1:17 PM

    You’d think the fine would have been bigger or come along with a suspension -only because of the previous actions against Harrison. The league seems to be confused with how to handle this crap.

  21. jm4385 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:17 PM

    WOOOOOOOOW. the game of football is fast paced. it might look slow on tv but when your on the field its alot different. Harrison did what ANY linebacker in the NFL WOULD DO. hes not paying attention to the ball…he is doing his job and getting to the QB. Roger Goodell and his staff are now officially pieces of shit. I hope they all rot. And its not just harrison, its how they are treating everyone. i think Polomalu was right when he said goodell has to much power.

  22. Dan The Beagle says: Nov 4, 2010 1:17 PM

    Blatant disregard for the rules, and this idiot deserves every fine he gets for these hits.
    There is no point for this hit, and the only impact it had on the game was trying to hurt the QB after the play..
    Typical Trash Steeler…

  23. timbo51 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:17 PM

    Suspend him for the rest of the season.

  24. Mike D says: Nov 4, 2010 1:17 PM

    On a side note, a custom-framed photo of said hit is now available on NFL.com for $39.99. Makes a great Christmas gift for the football fan in your family.
    Enter “Goodell” at check-out and receive 10% off.

  25. Steelers+Refs=True Love says: Nov 4, 2010 1:17 PM

    Pretty soon he’s going to pull a Latrell Sprewell and say he can’t afford to feed his family! Keep spearing people James, fight the system! hahaha

  26. 81megatron81 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:17 PM

    Now we get to hear him cry and whine and contemplate retirement, whaaaaaaaa!
    I hate the squeelers

  27. ArtModellsPimp says: Nov 4, 2010 1:17 PM

    This jackass needs to be suspended…for at LEAST the remainder of the season. It’s pretty obvious that, either he doesn’t understand the rules or just plain doesn’t give a damn about them.
    Either way, Harrison needs to be the example for the rest of the league…”If you play to injure, you will not play.” PERIOD.
    OMG…here comes the collective whine, straight out of the bowels of the Three Rivers. Get out the terrible yellow whining towels…

  28. quadya says: Nov 4, 2010 1:18 PM

    dude just dont get it does he. just retire bro.

  29. benniehifive says: Nov 4, 2010 1:18 PM

    I hate to agree with Florio, but unfortunately this time I have to. it wasn’t a violent hit, but late, avoidable, and totally unnecessary. and Harrison should know that the league is going to be keeping an eye on him so this really shouldn’t be a surprise.

  30. Bradwins says: Nov 4, 2010 1:19 PM

    Anybody who needed to see that play more than once to reach the conclusion that Harrison would and should be fined for the hit has serious cognitive issues.
    And if you have seen it more than once and STILL don’t think he should be fined, then you have no credibility on the matter and probably should save your thinking power for breathing rather than writing comments here.

  31. spudz says: Nov 4, 2010 1:20 PM

    And I am sure he will be fined alot more by the time the season is over.

  32. BigOx says: Nov 4, 2010 1:20 PM

    Definately malicous. No excuses – ball was obviously out, Brees didn’t change position or trajectory. Dumb-Dumb simply lowered his head and hit him square in the back.

  33. SuckitFlorio says: Nov 4, 2010 1:21 PM

    Cry me a river… all of you, go play soccer and leave football to the rest of us who play it, watch it, and support it the way it is!

  34. savocabol1 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:21 PM

    Lets see harrison use his shoulders or hands to tackle once in his career. Well then again we might not have to because im sure he will want to retire after getting this fine.

  35. Bona Fide says: Nov 4, 2010 1:21 PM

    Clearly sending a message about who the new fine and suspension policy was aimed at stopping.

  36. PA Pride says: Nov 4, 2010 1:21 PM

    THat is BS!!! They are clearly out to get him! It was a late hit, but did not need to be fined!!

  37. I hate Ted Thompson says: Nov 4, 2010 1:21 PM

    I am neither a Steelers fan, nor a Saints fan, but that was a pretty weak hit by Harrison.
    If anything, it looks as if he lets up just a bit before contact.

  38. BengalsDouche2 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:22 PM

    I don’t get why this one is less than the last one. The penalties should get worse as you continue to break the rules. Not get easier. The hit may not have been worse than the last one but I don’t get how you drop the penalty on a second offense of the season. Either way you broke the rules. They shouldn’t gauge the fine on how bad the hit is. If it’s illegal then it’s illegal. It’s as easy as that. He needs to be suspended to teach his dirty ass a lesson anyway. Then maybe he’ll really retire.

  39. kellyb91985 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:22 PM

    As much as I despise the Steelers, it appears that the NFL has something against James Harrison. Based on the video, these fines are getting out of hand, but oh well, I dont have to pay them.

  40. SDW2001 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:22 PM

    Hating the league office right now, but it looked like a dirty hit to me.

  41. Marv_Sleezy says: Nov 4, 2010 1:23 PM

    Please retire – The league does not need you. Its a better league when the guys you are trying to injure are healthy.

  42. PhinFanDan says: Nov 4, 2010 1:23 PM

    Late hit, YES.
    Vicious hit, I think not.

  43. stnmmc says: Nov 4, 2010 1:24 PM

    I’ve never played football, so I’m pretty sure that puts me on par with you Florio. I would think that as a player is about to get hit, or about to lay a hit the player would make themselves more compact to limit injury potential, but this had to be a deliberate dip of the head, right?
    In any case, if Harrison was looking to hurt Brees he quirky would have gone through the lower back, it is easier to snap a twig in the middle than at either end.
    Not saying it was a good hit, I just can’t stand those who have not played the game paying judgment on those who do/have.
    I see it in my sport all the time, and usually those people are way off base, as Morality Mike is most times.

  44. Omega says: Nov 4, 2010 1:24 PM

    20k
    Seems right.
    No biggie unless you are Squeeler enabler

  45. Deb says: Nov 4, 2010 1:25 PM

    Know the rules. Watched the video. Mike, you’re out of your bloody mind. And no matter what the infantile anti-Steelers want to say, I do not excuse illegal hits. I called out Harrison the second I saw the hit on Massaquoi and had no problem with him being fined. This was a late hit on Brees, and I have no problem with Harrison being flagged. But he does not spear Brees. The fine is because Tomlin spoke out on the NFL using James for its own PR purposes.
    Roger Goodell is the worst thing that’s happened to the league since I’ve been a fan. He’s power-mad and petty. Instead of blindly supporting his megalomania, I wish you’d write an objective assessment of how he picks and chooses the rules he’ll apply, and when/where he’ll apply them. His inconsistency is blatant.

  46. Polorl69 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:25 PM

    I hope he retires…..have fun working at Bojangles!

  47. phillyburdzfan says: Nov 4, 2010 1:25 PM

    He clearly didn’t see that the ball was out. Watch his right arm attempt to strip the ball right before the hit.

  48. PFTiswhatitis says: Nov 4, 2010 1:26 PM

    maybe he’ll quit now.

  49. BTD5504 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:27 PM

    i watched the video, and that is complete and utter GARBAGE to be fined $20K for that.
    i HATE everything about Pittsburgh, but Harrison has every right to be furious with that.
    Total BS.

  50. MACHINE GUN IBIZA says: Nov 4, 2010 1:27 PM

    This agent is an idiot.
    I am quite sure his comments yesterday about how the meeting with Goodell went (“a chance for both sides to learn and grow”) were just what his client needed!

  51. olskool711 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:27 PM

    The biggest problem I have with this is that PFT, journalists, and bozo message board posters actually act like what steelroid players, administrators, and yes I’m actually saying this: agents have to say is somehow important — relevant.
    The pittsburg steelroids are not relevent! Do you get that? They sexually assault girls (allegedly) repeatedly, physically assault girls, do very gay hair commercials, say very stupid and ignorant things, and are best known for taking cheap shots on the football field.
    Somehow, you give credence to a group of thugs. You make them appear like what they say matters–IT DOESN’T!!!
    Do some research into steelroid players dating back to the early 70′s. Most of what you will find is allegations from their own players concerning excessive steriod abuse, steriod abusers calling themselves and teammates out on it, how an exorbitant number of former players have died in very “unusual circumstances, etc…
    Instead of learning from the total dysfunction of this organization. Instead of focusing on the misplaced priorities of how to “win” and the consequences thereof, we give them a stage that makes it look like we care what they say. Should we really care what harrison, his agent, polomaulu, or rooney has to say about important issues? Really? Should we?
    How about we give a cable TV show to steelroid people, opra, obama, olberman, and all people that think like them and give them a forum for their madness? We can choose to turn it on or off and we won’t have to tie up our football boards with this crap.

  52. GovtCheese says: Nov 4, 2010 1:28 PM

    Good, I hope his ass gets suspended.
    Actually, what I REALLY hope for is one of the following:
    1) Harrison cries like a little girl some more and follows through with his threat to retire.
    2) Harrison hits someone else with his head, and he ends up getting a spinal cord concussion and gets the fear of God put in him.
    How long until he comes out and cries and complains some more?

  53. Spungy says: Nov 4, 2010 1:28 PM

    The league is already wimping out on these.

  54. Rex Ryan=Fat Twat says: Nov 4, 2010 1:28 PM

    Congrats to harrison. Here we go. Pittsburgh steelers going to the toilet bowl. Here we go. Ravens are going to win that division. They beat steelers without ed reed. Imagine what’s gonna happpen next time.

  55. GeeFan says: Nov 4, 2010 1:30 PM

    I hope they fine the agent for his dumb remarks, and when Harrision spouts off (as he generally does) I hope they fine him for that, too.

  56. spiedo says: Nov 4, 2010 1:31 PM

    Might be time to start a James Harrison fine tally under the ‘Days Without an Arrest’ counter.

  57. joetoronto says: Nov 4, 2010 1:31 PM

    Oh God, is he gonna take his ball and go home again?

  58. riichiie says: Nov 4, 2010 1:33 PM

    This is a ridiculous fine. HE BARELY dropped his head. The crown of the helmet didn’t even hit Brees in the back, it was his facemask.
    Stop the video at :02 and you’ll see what I’m talking about.
    So players are supposed to turn their heads 180 degrees before they make a legal tackle?
    This is seriously a joke now.

  59. poet1958 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:33 PM

    he should be suspended. as much for his outspoken defiant attitude as anything. he seems to be telling the league that regardless of what they do he’s going to play it “his” way. And in light of his prior stance that he goes out there to hurt the opposing players, (admittedly a stance to instill fear in his opponents, and not hopefully a desire on his part to intentionally injure.)
    The point being that he appears to be telling the league that he will not change his style of play regardless of what they do.

  60. QBall says: Nov 4, 2010 1:35 PM

    Florio,
    While I agree that the hit was late (as does Harrison himself), you write as if he could have contacted him with some other part of his body. When you tackle someone, you pretty much have to lead with your facemask. What else was he supposed to do? Back into the guy? Take him down with a flying karate kick? Football players have been taught to lead with their facemasks when making a tackle at least since the time facemasks were invented.
    Aside from being late, the hit on Brees was textbook; in fact, after Harrison made contact, he actually laid off the guy; i.e. he didn’t try to drill him into the turf or anything of the sort. He just banged into him and then stopped driving.
    You’ve obviously never played a down of tackle football in your life or you wouldn’t make such an ill-informed comment. Bill Parise’s observations on the hit are 100% accurate; yours are clueless…

  61. steelersmichele says: Nov 4, 2010 1:36 PM

    Here’s what I find interesting about this entire thing. A guy I know (who is a Cowboys fan) comes up to me and starts laughing about Harrison getting fined. I asked him why he thought it was so funny, and he said because he thinks the NFL is hypocritical about the situation.
    Here’s why: he’s a computer guy and watches NFL games on the internet–but he watches them on a website that is intended for European audiences. He said that during commercials, all they show are hard hits from the NFL games. He said they replay them over and over–and the hits look like the ones Goodell is banning.
    So here is my question? If the league is so concerned about player safety and eliminating hard hits, why are they showing those same hits over and over in Europe, where they want to start a franchise?

  62. Hooj says: Nov 4, 2010 1:36 PM

    How many times must a repeat offender….offend until he is suspended? He should be suspended not for the severity of the hit, but because every week he’s a violator. Sit him down for the rest of the season and let him ponder retirement.

  63. Sam says: Nov 4, 2010 1:36 PM

    Yea florio but ignorance is contagious, so about 95% of comments will be about how that hit was legal and that he shouldnt be fined and blah blah blah. I got your back on this one, just like Harrison had Brees’. You should start doing video segments like they do at ESPN like anatomy of a play, might help.

  64. riverhorse says: Nov 4, 2010 1:36 PM

    he could of pulled up but he took the extra step

  65. stillayinzer says: Nov 4, 2010 1:37 PM

    Here’s the deal, for anyone who wants to complain about the game of football without, you know, having actually played it beyond the 6th grade, STFU.

  66. Dortywords says: Nov 4, 2010 1:37 PM

    Heck, if the NFL keeps fining Harrison I might have to retire too. Learn how to play the game within the rules. Seems too easy

  67. Richm2257 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:39 PM

    Thanks for the link.
    Clearly Harison not only saw that Brees had gotten rid of the ball, and he easily could have pulled up, be he clearly lowers his head before hitting Brees.
    THIS is the thug that Steelers fans are proudly supporting? When is the NFL going to suspend this douchebag and truly drive home the point that they’re serious about this crap? Harrison needs to be suspended, so that he and the Steelers pay a price high enough to teach them the lesson, and losing Harrison for a game or two will hurt enough to learn it.
    The league said they were going to start cracking down, here is your poster boy, Mr. Goodell.

  68. diabolo says: Nov 4, 2010 1:40 PM

    Dirtiest Player of the Year award goes to Mr.James Harrison… Learn to tackle you arrogant drama queen.
    He is worse than Rodney Harrison… who I despise.

  69. melikefootball says: Nov 4, 2010 1:41 PM

    Wow the league does seem to have a foot on the Steelers this year. As I watched many of the games I saw some hits that seemed to be much worse with no fines. You all reported the league office had Harrison come in reviewing rules. I assume all the Steeler haters will be all over this one. God-del and his staff have pulled in some more money..there bank accounts must look nice now. Football this year has become more about fines and off field issues than the game itself. You can smell a no football season next year more and more.

  70. DeVoodoo says: Nov 4, 2010 1:41 PM

    More and more, Florio, you’re starting to sound like an out of touch old fart. You’re constantly at the defense of the NFL establishment regardless of prudent thought or analysis.
    Harrison’s agent is in the right here. And you should know that. You make it sound as if an agent’s only concern should be sucking up to the commissioner. BS. He’s defending his client because his client is being made a pariah.

  71. DonthatetheJetscausetheyarebetterthanyourteam says: Nov 4, 2010 1:41 PM

    Maybe now he’ll retire …

  72. Mile High Chilo says: Nov 4, 2010 1:42 PM

    safety first, ok we get it but you don’t wanna get hit play another sport

  73. Chase says: Nov 4, 2010 1:42 PM

    Mike,
    Harrison was flagged for the hit and the Saints got the first down “according to the rules.” The fact that he gets fined for this is so ridiculous. How many times do you see RBs lower their head like a battering ram and run into a linebacker or cornerback? Do they get fined? It was a stupid late hit and, yes, as Steelers fan, I was upset that Harrison would be so stupid as to do that. It was rightfully flagged. But Goodell has made the NFL into the “let’s do everything we can to protect our franchise QB league.” I guaruntee that if the QB would’ve been Colt McCoy taking that hit by a no name DE from Tampa Bay then NOBODY would’ve cared. But it was James Harrison hitting Drew Brees so we have to throw out the fine. Heaven forbid Brees takes a shot from a defensive player.
    Drew Brees would’ve NEVER lasted in the NFL if they played by the rules of the 70s, 80 , or even the 90s. They might as well turn the league into flag football because this is turning into a joke.

  74. HomoforRomo says: Nov 4, 2010 1:43 PM

    You battle the NFL, you will lose, simple as that.

  75. rioriz says: Nov 4, 2010 1:46 PM

    Never have I commented on this site even though i have been a reader for a long time. I just had to say the league and to a lesser extent yourself are really getting annoying with the pilling on Harrison. As your paragraph said, I looked at the video and I saw 1. a hold on Harrison and two a football player going for the ball to cause a fumble.
    If you look at the video you clearly see Harrison run into Brees after he first swipes at his throwing arm. This leads me to believe that no he did not see the ball come out of the arm and if he did it was too late, I think the former. Actually if slowed down you see his helmet hit Brees shoulder pad first then the back of his helmet as he is looking up presumably realizing the ball is gone and trying to pull up while Hampton is already lunging for Brees.
    I see no malicious intent and think the league needs to look at these plays as if they were flagrant or not before they throw out fines. Say what ever you want but I think it is a damn shame what the NFL is doing to Harrison.

  76. steelersmichele says: Nov 4, 2010 1:47 PM

    And Godell just set a precedent: ANY late hit from now on deserves a fine. Doesn’t matter what position you play or who you are. If you hit a player late, you should get a fine.
    So much for just helmet-to-helmet hits getting punished–now it truly is all hits.
    Be prepared guys. If any of your players hit a QB or receiver late, expect said player to write a check.
    But of course that won’t be the case. Godell is only after a few players.

  77. coxypoo says: Nov 4, 2010 1:47 PM

    I have an idea why dont we start shifting our focus away from head injuries and move it towards cops tasering people. In the last month 4 people have died from being tasered. This seems like more of an issue than nfl hits. If they are worried about people in the nfl with head injuries lets also worry about people getting tasered and dying. If 2% of the population is suseptable to dying during a taz then we should stop that too. 50k fines to cops who taz to hard!

  78. Ihateannouncers says: Nov 4, 2010 1:48 PM

    Amazing….20k for that, yet Don Carrey only gets 12.5k for helmet to helmet??? Is there a repeat offender clause that I don’t know about??

  79. TylerRDunn says: Nov 4, 2010 1:50 PM

    Old news.
    Oh well, whatever. Keep fining Harrison. His fans are paying the fines for him so it doesn’t really matter.

  80. JustinG says: Nov 4, 2010 1:54 PM

    That’s worth 20 grand? Come on. I’m not a Steelers fan and I pretty firmly believe Harrison was due for some fines, but 20k for THAT?
    Seriously? Give me a break.

  81. owumd says: Nov 4, 2010 1:54 PM

    What is it that people on this site do not understand about the helmet not being intended as an instrument of punishment? So the hit wasn’t “vicious” or “devastating” and the game is fast-paced. What of that is relevant to the discussion? You are, in fact, in control of your own body. It’s beyond clear that Harrison *intentionally* used the crown of his helmet as the point of impact to deliver a hit. THAT ISN’T ALLOWED.
    Why in god’s name are people defending players who are blatantly disregarding the rules of the game?
    “Oh well, yeah he didn’t get two feet in bounds on the catch, but the game moves really fast and he tried to, it just so happened that the left foot touched out of bounds. The league should just reward the effort and give him a catch anyway, regardless of what the rules say.”

  82. FoozieGrooler says: Nov 4, 2010 1:56 PM

    # Spungy says: November 4, 2010 1:28 PM
    “The league is already wimping out on these.”
    Yup. Goodell doesn’t have the balls to back up his mouth.
    Besides, even that idiot couldn’t find a way to justify suspending a player for a play where there wasn’t even a flag thrown …AGAIN.

  83. righthereisay says: Nov 4, 2010 1:56 PM

    So easy for all of us to talk about this….we are not going full steam every play, getting blocked (sometimes by 2 people), trying to make something happen using more energy than most of us use in 1 day. Sure, this is football, there are late hits. Unless the league can determine it is intentional to hurt the player getting hit then the fine should be 15 yards for your team.
    The Merriweather hit was totally unnecessary. What happened to Brees happens all the time in the NFL. This doesn’t make it right, but the teams are penalized 15 yards, which can affect the outcome of a game, and since many teams are 1/2 game away from making the playoffs, it can affect their post season also.

  84. Katmanduu says: Nov 4, 2010 1:57 PM

    How about the non-holding call on the Saints’ left tackle on this play? Dude had him in a headlock the entire way, but no holding call?
    Goddell and his cronies are a disgrace. James, Steeler Nation is behind you all the way! What’s a few thousand bucks when you make bank?? Next time, make the hit count and drive him through the turf. Might as well get your money’s worth.
    Funny thing….seems that only the Steelers defenders are stating their beliefs. Looks like none of the other teams’ pansie defenses hit hard enough. That’s why the road to the Super Bowl always goes through Pittsburgh.

  85. dbartdog says: Nov 4, 2010 1:57 PM

    Priest…WTF, all that molestation clouding your judgement??? Harrison lowered his helmet and rammed it right into Brees. You’re pathetic dude!

  86. meatball13 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:57 PM

    Funny how the Steelers fans didn’t complain when the refs helped them beat Seattle in the Super Bowl,but they whine like little girls when a dirtbag gets fined for an obvious illegal hit.

  87. Easy Ed says: Nov 4, 2010 1:58 PM

    This hit pales in comparison with the Massaquoi hit (which was a dangerously stupid hit on Harrsison’s part).

  88. Danwhitmer says: Nov 4, 2010 1:59 PM

    @ DEB : Roger Goodell is the worst thing that’s happened to the league since I’ve been a fan. He’s power-mad and petty. Instead of blindly supporting his megalomania, I wish you’d write an objective assessment of how he picks and chooses the rules he’ll apply, and when/where he’ll apply them. His inconsistency is blatant
    ———————————————————
    Why, because the Stinkers are finally getting called out for playing dirty, and having penalties handed to there players ? They are no longer the “golden child” of the NFL get over it! The only thing that Pittsburgh had was the national recognition of the Stinkers, now they are loosing that….. I know it must be hard to handle ……. LOL

  89. Kendiggs says: Nov 4, 2010 2:01 PM

    James Harrison is just straight up an unsmart individual, he went straight for the back of Brees’ head

  90. Burgh1979 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:01 PM

    yeah, he got penalized, why in the hell is this an offense that deserves a fine? Soon they will start fining O-lineman for holding. This is getting out of control, throw the flag, penalize the team, and move the hell on.

  91. StupidityIsFundemental says: Nov 4, 2010 2:05 PM

    “How about we give a cable TV show to steelroid people, opra, obama, olberman, and all people that think like them”
    How exactly does a a rambling hater rant with left-wing politics? You’re the daffy old homeless man walking down the street yelling to the sky about how aliens are sending you special messages through a toaster you pulled out of a dumpster.

  92. andyprough says: Nov 4, 2010 2:06 PM

    @Florio – are you finally watching video of these hits now, and breaking them down? Are you also going to acknowledge that the Massaquoi hit was never helmet-to-helmet, and that it was Massaquoi who ducked into the area of impact?
    I watched the Brees hit video you linked. I agree Harrison “drops his head” (however briefly), but I like your choice of words – he “uses it to ram Brees in the back”. LOL.
    Did he hit him with the “crown” of the helmet? No. Did he hit him with the forehead piece of the helmet? No. Did his facemask probably graze into Brees’ back as Harrison pushed Brees to the ground with no more force than on any other ordinary football play? Probably.
    To call that “hit” a “hit” is even a bit absurd. Brees was not “launched forward” or “shot out of a cannon” after the hit – he kind of tumbled to the ground, like he has probably done a million times. Harrison did not “launch”, “leave his feet”, or otherwise “blow up” Brees – he kind of pushed him over. Brees was so unstartled that he immediately rolled over to see if the ball he had thrown was caught. I don’t see that he needs your sympathy.
    Oh – and you were not going to mention that Casey Hampton had Brees in his grasp and was bringing him to the ground before Harrison’s little push? Brees was going down regardless on that play – and there was nothing painful or frightening from the video clip you showed. Harrison got the flag and the fine because he was late by a step – nothing more.
    If that little “push” is the kind of “hit” that you are going to use your soapbox to try to legislate out of the game, we are going to have an awfully boring game of football in the near future. There will be more contact in NBA and WNBA games, and far more contact in the NHL. Would you like to see less contact in the NFL than in women’s basketball – is that your goal Florio??

  93. Sam says: Nov 4, 2010 2:07 PM

    You know i hate posting twice on the same thread but some “fools” leave me no choice. Ok, football players are role models right? We all criticize their actions off the field because we, as citizens of the united states and having an understanding of U.S laws, know whats right and wrong. Our kids are watching these players, Professionals i remind you, make illegal tackles, go for the kill shot, and play with an intent to injure. Now what kids who are not old enough to understand is that these “Men” are trained to handle the abuse associated with taking some of those hits, will think that they can apply the same type of play at a level as low as Pee-Wee football. Kids will get hurt, this needs to stop now. You dont hit with your helmet or your facemask, and that goes to all you DOLTS who keep saying that its legal and its a B.S logic. The logic is, is that there is a lost art of FORM TACKLING that has been lost due to the success of players enhancing their speed and strength through intense training (and possibly other ways.) Players now will much rather drop a shoulder going full speed, dive at the knees, or leave their feet and essentially become a human missle. A form tackle requires your head to be up at all times and when you make contact put your head on the side with the ball in an attempt to knock it free. But continue to stand by your cheaters and what not, so when the game is truely ruined we will have our fingers pointed directly at you. Florio your kids a baller right? Have his coach let you interview him and ask him how he teaches his players to tackle.

  94. scra22 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:09 PM

    mikeyb1313 says: November 4, 2010 1:16 PM
    remember last year when the saints dirtily went after farve with late hit after late hit so they could amke the superbowl?? where was goodell then?
    ====
    There was at least one roughing the passer call in that game and Bobby McCray was fined for a hit. God you Vikings fans are so annoying.

  95. Steelerschick43 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:09 PM

    Still wont’ ‘stop us from getting that #7 Lombardi…just wait and see!

  96. Jack Burton says: Nov 4, 2010 2:10 PM

    He’ll learn at some point, then we can move on. I would say they’re targeting him but looking at Woodley he has yet to be fined for a hit so obviously it’s his technique.

  97. scra22 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:11 PM

    # Chase says: November 4, 2010 1:42 PM
    Drew Brees would’ve NEVER lasted in the NFL if they played by the rules of the 70s, 80 , or even the 90s. They might as well turn the league into flag football because this is turning into a joke.
    ====
    Why the shot at Brees? He didn’t call for the flag, he didn’t campaign for the fine. He got up and kept playing and led his team to a win. Lay off.

  98. stillayinzer says: Nov 4, 2010 2:11 PM

    Why does this board always sound like a bunch of whiney fans who are completely incapable of an objective thought? As soon as someone makes this issue about the Steelers (good or bad), they have lost ALL credibility. This is NOT a Steelers issue. This is a football and league issue. Any thought off that topic renders one’s opinion worthless.

  99. lynnic says: Nov 4, 2010 2:16 PM

    I believe the hit on Massaquoi was a very dangerous and stupid hit also. But this was just ridiculous. I’m a 51 year old woman and I could go out and play at this rate. Let them play football. This isn’t “touch football.” What would Goddell do to Lambert if he were playing. He’s going to ruin a player who is just full of passion for the game. Where does it end?

  100. seventhheaven7 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:17 PM

    Goodell Please take your skirt off and let these guys real play football. Were not playing soccer here. NFL officiating is such a joke. The old time players are probably laughing there ass off. I know I am. Pansy League. Oh they touched the quarterback, throw a flag. Waaaaah…Waaaah

  101. Holeinone09 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:18 PM

    Tired of this issue already. Tired of the haters whining but saying the Steelers and their fans are whining. Tired of people trying analyze what was going on at the moment of impact. Tired of it all.
    Pretty clear the NFL is trying to make a statement using Harrison. I don’t agree with it but that is what is happening. His own comments probably didn’t help his case in that regard. I think this has gone to far and GODell is a complete jackass allowing this issue to become really big, possibly intentionally overshadowing the labor agreement situation, desired game expansion, etc.
    So tell me, now that Harrison is a multi-repeat offender, why didn’t the fine go up from the prior $75K? Is GODell now determining severity of the allegedly illegal hits? It makes no sense at all to me what the NFL is doing.
    I am getting to the point that I think Harrison is going to blow a gasket on a play. He is going to absolutely crush some QB or RB or WR, but legally, and he is going to put the person out of the game with a big hurt. He might blow out someone’s knee, or crack some ribs, or something else. But you can almost see this coming. The NFL is blatantly challenging him to a duel. He might take them up on it. It might be against the Bengals. I wouldn’t want to be Palmer Monday night.
    GO STEELERS!!

  102. Monarch says: Nov 4, 2010 2:19 PM

    Keep fining him, hope he retires

  103. troymania says: Nov 4, 2010 2:19 PM

    your an idiot, if what you say is true harrison lowering his head, which means his eyes are looking at the ground how is he automatically supposed to assume brees threw the ball this is stupid … harrison is basically gonna end up playing this season for free goodel needs a tampon or go be the comissioner of baseball or badminton something where players arent supposed to hit each other grow up

  104. antalicus says: Nov 4, 2010 2:19 PM

    Helmets wouldn’t be so dangerous if they redesigned them so the shell had a bit of padding on the outside to absorb blows.

  105. blindjustice260 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:22 PM

    # Rex Ryan=Fat Twat says: November 4, 2010 1:28 PM
    -Congrats to harrison. Here we go. Pittsburgh steelers going to the toilet bowl. Here we go. Ravens are going to win that division. They beat steelers without ed reed. Imagine what’s gonna happpen next time.
    Congrats to you on being a complete idiot for making such a dumbass comment. WOW they didnt have Ed Reed??????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
    Pitt started their 4TH STRING QB and still had a chance to win that game…ignorance is sweet bliss

  106. TD40 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:23 PM

    Any chance they can fine him just for looking and sounding stupid when he talks?

  107. njhitman says: Nov 4, 2010 2:24 PM

    Where the fine for whats his name on the Pats for the hit to Bret the one that ripped his jaw

  108. ry82274 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:24 PM

    Here’s an idea…Why dont the Steelers coaches teach their players form tackling instead of using your helmet as a weapon tackling???? Polamalu does the same thing yet never gets fines…I guess if your a “star” with alot of commercial endorsements, the NFL will turn a blind eye.
    The Steelers D got exposed by the Saints and will start getting exposed by other teams as the NFL begins cracking down on their dirty play. Its all they know…if its taken away from them they arent gonna know what to do and the whining and crying will only get worse.

  109. somesome says: Nov 4, 2010 2:26 PM

    I don’t know, this is just the topic of the week I guess. I feel too much is made out off nothing. $20K is higher than the usual but everybody gets fined for this kind of hit. You mope and pay and move on.
    Nobody has it out for the Steelers, everybody gets fined for these kind of hits. There are on average some 1,700 hits/tackles on any given Sunday and a handful get fined. Check Ray Lewis hit on Keller during the Ravens/Jets game. Vicious hit, perfectly timed, head up and player properly tackled. Right technique and you won’t get fined. Next play he may miss-time it, slip, or slide up and hit Keller with his helmet and he will get a fine. Pay it, mope, move on.
    This is Harrison’ what 4th hit he gets fined for? So he is looking to average 4 more until the end of the season? Keep your head up and try to tackle while you hit somebody and maybe you won’t get fined.

  110. rusH1023 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:31 PM

    bet1111 says:
    I guess you never played football, if thats a fine they should just wear skirts and pink from now on. This is football not soccer or baseball.
    ______________________
    You’ve never played football and you’re an idiot.

  111. YinzerYapperz says: Nov 4, 2010 2:34 PM

    Although my personal opinion is that I don’t think anyone whether it be James Harrison or any other rich football player in the league should have been fined for that hit on Drew Brees. I really do think in a few years they might be playing with Flags on their sides. Honestly all I care is that Harrison doesn’t get suspended for these so called illegal hits.
    More importantly my beef isn’t that the NFL is handing out these fines but that they are a bunch of hypocrites. (I apologize if anyone has previously mentioned this in this post) but the NFL is profiting from these so called illegal hits!!! See links below to purchase your early Holiday Season Gift for that special loved one.
    Brees hit:
    http://www.replayphotos.com/nflphotostore/custom-print/drew-brees-james-harrison_342044.cfm
    Massaquoi hit:
    http://www.replayphotos.com/nflphotostore/custom-print/james-harrison-mohamed-massaquoi_327376.cfm

  112. Kisstherings says: Nov 4, 2010 2:35 PM

    People don’t need to be ‘endearing themselves’ to the league office Florio. I applaud Harrison and his agent. People need to speak out on how the NFL is being entirely over reacting to media pressure and making knee-jerk policy decisions that are ruining the game for fans.
    There is a certain amount of risk that comes with playing in the NFL. Nobody has a gun to these players heads. They can go get a job in corporate american, Home Depot or McDonalds if they don’t want to risk injury. They are fining players for hits that are entirely subjective in regards to intent, and a matter of luck and/or fractions of an inch as far as a players last minute moves determine the legality of the hit.
    It is ridiculous.

  113. MNSUX says: Nov 4, 2010 2:37 PM

    Hit was late! Steelers fans need to quit whining!

  114. ronshanklin says: Nov 4, 2010 2:40 PM

    MIKEYB1313—Right on brother! Offense sells…to the corporate suits spending money on the luxury boxes and the trophy blonde bimbo wives….most “fans” do NOT know it all begins in the trenches, any more than they know what an I-formation is. Everyone wants to see the pitch and catch, and nothing else. And the NFL, particularly Roger GODell, wants it to stay that way. This whole situation is egregious….Herr Goodell does not give a crap one way or the other about player safety…he’s worried about a class action suit that will come down of retired players that have been hurt. If there was ANY hope at ALL of the owners and players agreeing on a contract before the current CBA expires….it’s gone now. Get ready for a long, long time without football, everybody!

  115. NoRingsForYou says: Nov 4, 2010 2:40 PM

    Hey Florio – get over Super Bowl IX. The Steelers beat the Vikings, you cried, move on.

  116. flake13 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:42 PM

    if they wouldn’t of held him it wouldn’t have been late.

  117. BengalsDouche2 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:43 PM

    Holeinone09 says:
    November 4, 2010 2:18 PM
    The NFL is blatantly challenging him to a duel. He might take them up on it. It might be against the Bengals. I wouldn’t want to be Palmer Monday night.
    GO STEELERS!!
    ———————————————–
    It wouldn’t be the first time Palmer and the Bengals are victims of Steelers’ dirty playing style. Reason #1 why we didn’t beat you guys in the 05 playoffs. We were burning you so Kimo had to come out and take Palmer out so you guys had a fighting chance against Kitna. You guys are bums and always will be.

  118. FinFan6886 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:46 PM

    The hit was borderline use of the helmet and borderline late. Harrison’s mouth and defiance are what is causing the fines. If he would shut up he might get the benefit of the doubt. He acts stupid and plays stupid. He knows they are looking at him more closely and yet he still does this. As I said, it was borderline but it was absolutely avoidable. The hit had no impact on the play but he chose to do it any way. Those of you that want to argue that defensive players are looking to hit the QB at every opportunity because it will have an impact on the game…umm, that is precisely the point of the league. The hit shouldn’t have happened but the player chose to do it anyway. There was no attempt to avoid it. I think the league is going overboard on a lot of this stuff but avoidable hits that are also questionable will get a fine and if the player/owner/coach/agents are stupid enough to dare the NFL management to levy the fine, the Steeler fanbase is focusing their discontent in the wrong direction.

  119. _ROCKSTAR_ says: Nov 4, 2010 2:46 PM

    I totally agree with the fine actually. It fits with what I have been saying all this time.
    It is ok to hit, yeah its a collision sport. But as soon as you duck your head you are not playing football.
    You keep your head up, eyes on the ball/play and make tackles no need for senseless injuries to any player who just wants to assault someone with a weapon.
    Steelers problem is that they are a freakin dirty team. Hiting a down player on the ground WTF.

  120. Thomkat says: Nov 4, 2010 2:46 PM

    This is a bunch of bullshit. STRIKE PLAYERS, STRIKE! WHERE IS ROONEY WHEN YOU WANT HIM? WITH HIS HEAD UP RAPISTBERGER’S ASS. HOW DOES IT SMELL ART?

  121. Thomkat says: Nov 4, 2010 2:49 PM

    Hey James, since the officials are considered, part of the field, lay their asses OUT! Not much you can do there. Refs are ALWAYs in the way and all we hear is that “they are part of the field”. Ok, that works both ways, KNOCK THEM OUT! I wouldn’t pay it. F U Goodell.

  122. Igottz5onit says: Nov 4, 2010 2:50 PM

    The fines are getting ridiculous. There seems to be some completely arbitrary numbers process. I think we deserve for this to be, you know, thought out at least a little bit. Not just imposed in the direction that Goodell just feels like at the end of the day.

  123. Ilovefoolsball says: Nov 4, 2010 2:51 PM

    Good for James, he has the money it won’t hurt him or his family.

  124. if yer not first... says: Nov 4, 2010 2:52 PM

    According to the league’s new enforcing the existing rules policy if it’s bad enough to warrant a fine it’s bad enough to be suspended for.
    This animal’s had multiple fines and multiple personal fouls this year he needs to be suspended.

  125. Steeler4life says: Nov 4, 2010 2:52 PM

    Since when is a penalty not enough???

  126. Bell63 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:54 PM

    Ultimately, the problem with the NFL is they want to have big celebs playing for long stretches of time (like Favre). There is a reason the NFL career is shorter than that of other leagues – bigger hits, more injuries, etc. You cannot change this!!! You’re going to have stretches where big time stars are injured, and we all move on. In their efforts to drive up marketing, the league is actually making the game less watchable.

  127. PerryMason says: Nov 4, 2010 2:55 PM

    Do like the Vikings do and not tackle anyone. That way there will be no fines.

  128. Richm2257 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:01 PM

    Ihateannouncers says:
    Amazing….20k for that, yet Don Carrey only gets 12.5k for helmet to helmet??? Is there a repeat offender clause that I don’t know about??
    ————————————————-
    Yes, moron, there IS. Don’t you read ANY of this $hit before you post about it?????

  129. Spoonthis says: Nov 4, 2010 3:04 PM

    Paging Mister Tard. Paging Mister Tard. First name, Re last name Tard. Yes, you are being paged olskool711.
    Why do you post on every Steeler topic if they are so irrelevant?
    Last time I checked, the Steelers are best known for winning 6 Lombardi Trophy’s and not being cheap shot artists, that would be the Raiders.
    Do you want all of the players to be puppets and bow down the GODell? That’s how Hitler came into power running a dictatorship.
    You do realize that you can change the channel when the Steelers are on your TV, like this week on MNF and next week on SNF. The NFL Network is on cable so what the hell are you talking about idiot?

  130. benjaminbreeg says: Nov 4, 2010 3:04 PM

    The hit is not vicious, but I think the key is that Harrison accelerated AFTER the QB released the ball.
    Gotta play by the rules, no matter what you think of them.
    Maybe the guy should retire.

  131. d says: Nov 4, 2010 3:12 PM

    L love how everyone rags on Steelers fans for complaining about the fines to Harrison when they themselves whine twice as much about how the Steelers “get all the calls” and are a “dirty team”. Hypocrisy is hilarious.

  132. VASeahawk says: Nov 4, 2010 3:12 PM

    Avowed Stealer hater since the 60′s and even I think that’s a ridiculous fine. Nothing viscous, just a little late. Didn’t use his head to spear him(although maybe $75K earlier he would have). No rhyme or reason to the amounts of these fines. NFL office is starting to look pretty stupid( more stupid?)

  133. njhitman says: Nov 4, 2010 3:12 PM

    BengalsDouche2 says:
    November 4, 2010 2:43 PM
    It wouldn’t be the first time Palmer and the Bengals are victims of Steelers’ dirty playing style. Reason #1 why we didn’t beat you guys in the 05 playoffs. We were burning you so Kimo had to come out and take Palmer out so you guys had a fighting chance against Kitna. You guys are bums and always will be.
    ————————————
    If you even watch that game Kimo was blocked into Palmer which Palmer and the guy who block him into your so called QB even said it !!! Ben Gals fans are such MORONS OMG they need to learn something before talking

  134. tk1966 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:15 PM

    Thanks for providing the video – it gives evidence that the league is being too cautious, and perhaps has a vendetta against Harrison.
    Watch the video frame by frame. You can see that Harrison is barely two feet, 1 step, from Brees when the ball leaves his hand. Remember that Harrison sees Roethlisberger in practice daily. The significance? Ben is a master of the pump fake. How is he to know that the arm motion he just saw is not a pump fake, like he sees in practice?
    When the ball is released, the impact is not much more than a chest bump. It is accentuated by the fact that Brees is falling back, into the direction from which Harrison is coming. This makes the “impact” appear more severe.
    When Harrison hits Brees, Brees stumbles and falls, and Harrison doesn’t. He doesn’t drive thru him, doesn’t slam him. If anything, he pulls up.
    He then trips over Brees, and falls, again making it seem worse than it is.
    Now go back and watch this Zapruder film and see if I’m not right.

  135. edgy1957 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:19 PM

    You blood lusters are amazing.
    Over the year, there have been many former NFL players who came down with ALS or what they’ve been saying is ALS-like and for them, each day is such a “joy” as someone has to wipe their ass or wash their balls or feed them and all because of the blood lust of those at the “coliseums” of the NFL.
    Some of you fools talk as if these guys should be more than willing to take the chances because of the millions that they’ve make and at least one fool has talked about how they’d gladly take this crap just for the disability insurance.
    First of all, most DON’T ever make millions and how about the ones who predated all the big money and didn’t make $100,000 for their career, let alone any one year? Like the players today, most NEVER qualified for a pension, so they’re not making any kind of money and you should probably look at how little they would make IF they got a pension.
    All that the league is trying to do is FINALLY protect the players because one day, there’s going to be a reckoning if they let it get out of hand, again. Either Congress is going to do it or the players are going to do it but one thing is for sure, there will be hell to pay for the league if they don’t. You can talk about the owners being the ones hat pay the players and they should have say but that’s a load of crap. There was a time that players were required to provide their OWN protection and since they got paid very little back then they would go as cheap as possible.
    BTW, think about this and the so-called skirt wearing that the NFL is trying to fob off on the fans: there’s a kid whose career at Rutgers is over and he caused it by leading with his head on a tackle during a kick off return. He’s not getting a million to play at Rutgers and he may have never even played a down in the NFL sometime in the future so why is it ok for him to put himself and others in jeopardy just to satisfy your blood lust. There rules aren’t meant to just help the offense because plenty of those guys that have “ALS” are on the defensive side of the ball.
    I’ve got nothing against hard hitting but it’s time to stop using the helmet and making excuses for guys that do. How would you feel if it were YOUR son that was being carted off the field at Rutgers and you knew that he would never walk again? Do you think that the mother of one of these professional athletes thinks that her son has hit the lottery when they cart him off the field or is she more worried about his well being and the possibility that he may never be the same again?
    I support Goodell and I don’t care what team that he does this against. Hell, I was calling for him to fine AND suspend Flozell Adams because of his tripping and I was happy when they put the horse collar rule in because I was tired of watching guys’ seasons end because of Roy Williams, who was playing for the Cowboys back then. Put aside team loyalty and tell me that you don’t think that the NFL wouldn’t be better if they still had hard hitting that didn’t involve taking guys out? I remember a time when the Steelers were up in arms when Turkey Jones made a wish with Terry Bradshaw, why is it that they don’t want to see the same kind of protection afforded the rest of the league? Over the years, there are guys who were on their way to greatness or near greatness but were forced to retire because they HAD to and not that they wanted to and I think that it would have been great to see them play longer. With the 18 game schedule coming, the NFL needs to find a way to get more guys to play the full schedule or else the next thing that you know, you guys will be bitching about how you can’t stand watching the last couple of weeks with practice squad players filling in for stars who were put out by injuries.

  136. tom coughlin's coat holder says: Nov 4, 2010 3:20 PM

    with the way the fines are coming,is this guy going to have any money left at the end of the year?

  137. youngblood says: Nov 4, 2010 3:22 PM

    So now Goodell is protecting Brees. Figures! look at this…
    Kenny Wilkerson of WIST radio in New Orleans recently reported, with a high degree of conviction and passion, that Brees has a fracture and a torn meniscus in the knee and has been hiding it since September 26th.

  138. jjared1101 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:27 PM

    So Harrison has to settle for 6.2 mil instead of 6.3 for being a dirty player? Poor guy. He’s gotta feed his kids and dogs though?!

  139. Art Van Delay's brother says: Nov 4, 2010 3:29 PM

    Where the hell was Goodell during the NFC championship when the ‘Aints were taking cheap shot after cheap shot on Favre?
    Then the “Aints proceded to mouth off before the season opener on how they were going to repeat the same on Favre again.
    Goodell is a typical shit weasel that never played the game. If the NFL is serious about players’ safety they would not have a record of 40+ years of ignoring veterans health issues.

  140. FlyingHigh says: Nov 4, 2010 3:33 PM

    Does anyone know exactly where all this money goes after a player pays his thousands of dollar fines? It can’t go directly into Goddell’s pocket, can it?

  141. Heinz57 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:36 PM

    Harriaon was going for the chop on Brees arm and is why his head was lowered. He had no intention of lowering his head into Brees back. Addiotionally, it is impossible to pull up instantly when running at full speed. This kind of over review will ruin the game. You only see what you want to see. Quit frankly I hope he rips every pansy QB’s head off this season.
    How about this deal….Have the refs call holding on Harrison every time it occurs and not when it is only blantant. Your right, let’s do play by the all rules.

  142. Yerger22 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:37 PM

    Most of the people here give bad names to Steelers fans.

  143. Rex Ryan=Fat Twat says: Nov 4, 2010 3:42 PM

    james harrison will never be talked about in the same sentence as ray lewis. here we go ravens.

  144. Holeinone09 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:48 PM

    BengalsDouche2, thanks for showing everyone how dumb you are. I didn’t say it would be dirty, I clearly said a legal hit by Harrison to crush someone, which might be Palmer Monday night. Of course, you didn’t copy that statement from my post. No problem. It makes you feel better to make things up to support your worthless point of view.
    I suggest that instead of trolling the Steeler threads (which you spend a lot of time doing as I see it), you should spend more time worrying about how lousy your team is playing. Hope you enjoyed the once in a blue moon wins you had against the Steelers last year. It probably won’t happen this year. Now please quit whining about the past and making things up. See you Monday night.
    GO STEELERS!!

  145. BRUTUS9448 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:49 PM

    I think harrisons penalty should include playing the next game without his helmet. I bet he’ll stop charging people with his head then

  146. Sryan311 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:50 PM

    Everyone who thinks thats a dirty hit, ITS FOOTBALL, you play to hurt people I don’t care who you are. It’s a violent game, if your playing because you think your not going to get hit get off the field and go play a different sport. The NFL is ruining this game, defenders are taught thru the years to hit and hit hard since they were 5….seriously this wasn’t even CLOSE to being a vicious hit, and his hit on Cribbs wasn’t cheap. He hit him good, that’s football. You’re all soft..later

  147. The Real Shuxion says: Nov 4, 2010 3:52 PM

    steelersmichele says: November 4, 2010 1:36 PM
    Here’s why: he’s a computer guy and watches NFL games on the internet–but he watches them on a website that is intended for European audiences. He said that during commercials, all they show are hard hits from the NFL games. He said they replay them over and over–and the hits look like the ones Goodell is banning.
    ——————————————————
    I can vouch for this. I have been on the site she is talking about (Or a site similar. Mine was for viewing audiences in Germany). Had to change my proxy to get in when I was at work (I am a Network Engineer myself). They usually show maybe one commercial and a bunch of hits from the day and the previous week. Still the NFL will do whatever it wants. If they fine him they will. If the players don’t want this then get a better union.

  148. H25 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:55 PM

    He is just a stupid, stupid human being.

  149. Goodell Wears Pink Nuthuggers says: Nov 4, 2010 3:56 PM

    Goodell must be stopped!!

  150. ercin13 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:56 PM

    they will never teach this idiot until they suspend him. that wont happen because goodell luvs the steelers. i never seen a team get so many breaks in one season. just give them the super bowl trophy already.

  151. TD40 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:57 PM

    All the Steelers fans who whine about the game being reduced to a pansy-fest because the league is cracking down on thugs like Harrison who go out of their way to try to take people out of the game would also be the first people to scream and cry foul if some huge linebacker from another team were to take out Rapistberger.
    Fact.

  152. BengalsDouche2 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:58 PM

    Spoonthis says:
    November 4, 2010 3:04 PM
    Last time I checked, the Steelers are best known for winning 6 Lombardi Trophy’s and not being cheap shot artists, that would be the Raiders.
    The NFL Network is on cable so what the hell are you talking about idiot?
    ———————————————-
    The Steelers aren’t known for cheap shots?!?!?! That’s news to me and probably news to most people on this board.
    Also, the NFL Network is not on my cable network so maybe it’s not on everyone’s cable network yet. Don’t make blind statements like that idiot.

  153. Deb says: Nov 4, 2010 3:59 PM

    @Danwhitmer …
    Are you capable of grownup discussion on the subject or just “wah-wah I hate Steelers”? If you read my first paragraph, then you read that I had no problem with Harrison being fined for the hit on Massaquoi or flagged for the hit on Brees. The Steelers aren’t any dirtier–or any any cleaner–than any other team in the league. My problem with Goodell is a problem with an administrator who puts egomaniacal ambition ahead of the good of the league, who demonstrates poor judgment based on flawed thinking, who’s more concerned with public relations than fairness, and who’s inconsistent in his decision-making.
    Want examples?
    The league has been gradually increasing NFL exposure in the UK and Europe since the 1980s, and that’s helped them to build a certain fanbase in those countries–particularly the UK/Ireland. The American male fanbase has reached a saturation point and in a “greed is good” drive to keep increasing market share (because no amount of money is ever enough), Goodell has become obsessed with expanding into the UK market … with an NFL franchise. The problem is that the UK/Irish fans are fans of existing NFL teams–some for 20+ years. I’d been a Steelers fan for a lot of years when the Jaguars came along. I didn’t suddenly adopt the Jags and start making the five-hour drive to Jacksonville for games. UK fans have said they’re not going to do that either. It’s one thing to go to an NFL game once a year. It’s another to support a local franchise.
    With the time differences, UK fans could not watch our Sun., Mon., or Thurs. night games live. The UK team would have to play nine transAtlantic games in an 18-game season. And what about playoffs? Since there’s no farm system for providing NFL talent across the pond, the players will have to be American–and the NCAA can’t produce enough serious QB talent to cover the 32 we already have. The World League failed–and cost the NFL a lot of money in the process. But Goodell ignores all of that as well as the overwhelming opposition of American fans. He’s hired a soccer marketing guru to keep selling this to the UK/European public.
    He rewrote the Personal Conduct Policy in order to make Roethlisberger the first NFL player ever suspended without any prior disciplinary action from his team or the league, any arrest, any drug-test failure, or any violation of league gambling policy. He made a big production about this ushering in a new wave of personal accountability for NFL players. Then when Vince Young was arrested for assaulting someone in a strip club … nothing. When Brandon Underwood’s adventures with two stripper/hookers got him accused of rape and dragged in several uninvolved teammates … nothing. But he’s making a big to-do of Brett Favre chatting up a woman two years ago who said she kept the tapes for laughs. (Harassment victims don’t keep evidence for laughs.) It seems this new era of personal accountability only applies to really high-profile players. Everyone else can skate. That’s inconsistent and hypocritical.
    If he wanted to change the way hits were handled the first thing he should have done was implement his own three-year-old policy of ejecting players for spearing–a policy he’s never enforced–before discussing suspensions. And a good administrator talks to team owners, coaches, and players–the people in the organization–to make sure everyone understands the policy and has buy-in before he or his VP start running their mouths to the media. That’s corporate communications 101. The reason he’s had problems with Mike Tomlin and Art Rooney is because he didn’t follow simple corporate protocol that any junior CEO should know.
    I don’t like people at that level who make so many bush-league mistakes.

  154. C-Bus says: Nov 4, 2010 4:03 PM

    Maybe Harrison should try MMA, since he clearly can’t play football without cheap-shotting other players…..he bounced around the league because he couldn’t tackle, but now that the Steelers allow him to spear guys, he’s the defensive player of the year. Give me a break. This guy is nothing but a glorified thug.

  155. Barrington Chadsworth says: Nov 4, 2010 4:06 PM

    Florio is just bitter about Tuesdays election results.
    and Harrison should learn they are going to be tougher with hits the rest of this year. Probably a bit severe to fine him for THAT hit but past hits do make up for it. Hopefully the NFL starts backing off on fines though. It feels like football is going to a place it shouldn’t. Things with the league this year just don’t feel right.

  156. steelersmichele says: Nov 4, 2010 4:10 PM

    BengalsDouche2 says: It wouldn’t be the first time Palmer and the Bengals are victims of Steelers’ dirty playing style. Reason #1 why we didn’t beat you guys in the 05 playoffs. We were burning you so Kimo had to come out and take Palmer out so you guys had a fighting chance against Kitna. You guys are bums and always will be.
    Kimo was pushed into Palmer. If you watch the video, he was the first guy screaming for the trainers to come out and help Palmer—and Kimo apologized afterwards saying he was sorry Palmer got hurt. Don’t make it seem like he was standing over Palmer yelling “he’s not hurt, he’s done” a la Ray Lewis when he knocked Mendenhall out for the season (yeah, I went there).
    At least all of this should stop the idea that the league wants the Steelers to win and “gives” us games.

  157. steelersmichele says: Nov 4, 2010 4:20 PM

    If you go over to the Don Carey article, he’s got only 5 responses. You may hate the Steelers, but you don’t mind spending a lot of time talking about them.
    And Ben, Monday night, fall down a few times to draw a 15 yard flag and get some guy fined the next day.

  158. steelersmichele says: Nov 4, 2010 4:23 PM

    If you go over to the Don Carey article, he’s got only 5 responses. You may hate the Steelers, but you don’t mind spending a lot of time talking about them.
    And Ben, Monday night, fall down a few times to draw a 15 yard flag and get some guy fined the next day.

  159. favreslegacy says: Nov 4, 2010 4:29 PM

    good, maybe he will retire now

  160. somesome says: Nov 4, 2010 4:36 PM

    @steelersmichele
    …. that’s because Ray ALWAYS finishes his tackle …. ;)

  161. TeeDraper says: Nov 4, 2010 4:43 PM

    “Harrison can see that the ball is out”
    Oh yeah Florio…….u can see what Harrison sees?
    Ur the biggest NFL apologist I have ever encountered. Grow a pair

  162. steelersmichele says: Nov 4, 2010 4:53 PM

    Rex Ryan=Fat Twat says: james harrison will never be talked about in the same sentence as ray lewis. here we go ravens.
    –you’re right, because Harrison has never been accused of murder
    TD40 says: …be the first people to scream and cry foul if some huge linebacker from another team were to take out Rapistberger. Fact.
    –have you seen Ben play? Players can’t take him down. But he has, on at least two occasions, not played because of concussions. Yep, he was slammed to the ground by a defender and nary was a flag thrown. Fact.

  163. Holeinone09 says: Nov 4, 2010 4:54 PM

    Hey Deb, LOL, you sure got the goat of this warmhole moron, who spent his valuable time making up at TRIBUTE ID in your honor. Congrats! That is what people do when they can’t win a debate with well thought out legitimate comments based on fact. They make up a tribute ID and make jokes to make themselves feel better. It is much easier than using their brain to think.
    Can’t wait for Monday night football!!
    GO STEELERS!!

  164. Bdrunk says: Nov 4, 2010 5:14 PM

    I have a feeling it’s only going to get worse for James, what with Brady and Palmer on the schedule. Brady cries if he gets sneezed on and Palmer will crack like a ricecake.

  165. Newguy says: Nov 4, 2010 5:24 PM

    With what the league has learned about head injuries in the last year of so and the injury to the Rutgers player the day before “big hit Sunday” the league had to take some action.
    My issue with them is they responded with a knee jerk response, shot from the hip and have not done anything since to show a thoughtful and measured fix. And that risks more than is discussed in these forums.
    They could have issued a statement saying that given what they have learned, and recent events they need to be more rigorous in their enforcement and starting now they were going to enforce the letter of the rule. Then sent a league official with the tape they sent around and reviewed and discussed it with the teams. Nope, they just mailed in a tape.
    They first said we will implement new rules, then they said no, we will enforce the rules we have. They didn’t even know they had the rules on the books. They have been asleep at the switch.
    What they have done is force the responsibility to the players who certainly play a large role. But is this enough? If they were serious they would establish performance specs for helmets. But they continue to allow a trade group, who is hamstrung by liability issues to set a spec based on poor 30 year old studies. How easy would it be to paste a modern accelerometer chip, similar to the one in my iPhone, onto each helmet shell to find out what the real forces are that have to be mitigated? Not much more difficult than putting one on the inside of the foam to measure how effective it is and then comparing those with numbers from their neurologists to see what we see. That data could be made available to all existing and prospective helmet producers with a description of how good good is. That with a consistent policy on allowable hits, which might be different that what has been acceptable in the past, might be enough to prevent the potential injury, lawsuit or government intervention (see T Roosevelt and football injuries/deaths) which would derail this love-train we call American Football.
    But rather than take a serious and sober approach, they point the finger at players and say “see its their fault, they’re not following the rules.”
    Its a weak and reactive approach to a serious and long term problem. The fact it is inconsistent in its application and poorly communicated as to its purpose makes it dangerous.
    Florio, you are positioned to demonstrate the “top 40 influential” list you made was not a fluke if you want. You won’t be able to do that by trolling for hits (not that there is anything wrong with that.) If you do find this important, than take it on. In a serious way. Look at industries like automotive who also have serious risks and safety issues they deal with and how they (mostly) get ahead of them.
    Other wise, make a Stienfield reference and talk about Favre’s pending retirement.

  166. steelersmichele says: Nov 4, 2010 5:30 PM

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/40009814/ns/sports-nfl/
    photographic evidence (since so many of you LOVE photos) to show all of you where his helmet is. It’s not in Drew’s back at all–it’s off to the side.
    What I’d like to know is how many other roughing the passer penalties were called on Sunday and how many of those were finable? You mean Harrison was the ONLY one who drew a flag for that that deserved to be called out?

  167. steelersmichele says: Nov 4, 2010 5:35 PM

    Bdrunk says: I have a feeling it’s only going to get worse for James, what with Brady and Palmer on the schedule. Brady cries if he gets sneezed on and Palmer will crack like a ricecake.
    I don’t have a problem with Palmer, but geez, I completely forgot about Brady. The way he acted in the Ravens game, I’m sure he’s going to be practicing falling down the week before he plays us.

  168. Silver-N-Black666 says: Nov 4, 2010 5:57 PM

    Well…The league better leave Harrison alone or he will retire and you will all be sorry!!!!

  169. Terrell Blowens says: Nov 4, 2010 5:59 PM

    Put flags on the QB and if a guy accidentally touches the QB or knock him down, just suspend him for these season.
    Harrison should have been suspended for the rest of the season! Did you see how dirty that hit was?! Oh my god I don’t think star QBs are meant to be hit so hard! Poor Brees. Give me a break. I hate the Steelers as much as the next guy, but you gotta be kidding me.

  170. Florios'Lawyer says: Nov 4, 2010 6:02 PM

    Hialrious, go over to the article about Ernie Sims’ fine for a similar infraction and see how many comments you see like:
    “He’s a dirty player” and “Suspend his ass”.
    hint: zero.
    All comments over there are in support of Sims.
    The only difference I see between the two instances, is the number of rings.
    Figures.

  171. Florios'Lawyer says: Nov 4, 2010 6:11 PM

    NASA beams NFL clips of James Harrison’s hits into outer space as a warning for aliens of what will happen if they invade Earth.

  172. Harrisonheld16 says: Nov 4, 2010 6:24 PM

    RexRyanHasntSeenHisDinkySince1987
    He did not lead with his helmet, his helmet did not even go down. You could watch it. Because I assume you just are hearing it from morons that did not see it. So watch it

  173. Harrisonheld16 says: Nov 4, 2010 6:30 PM

    Dan The Beagle
    typical trash Steeler Huh? Why because the hit hard?
    They actually have the least arrests on their team and when they get one that is like Holmes he gets traded or cut. And i know you will reply with rapisberger or something stupid but they found proof that he didn’t do that he was suspended because he got accused of it.

  174. Harrisonheld16 says: Nov 4, 2010 6:34 PM

    florrio
    his helmet hit his back because he is shorter than Brees, he did not drop it to the crown of his helmet he dropped his head like an inch lower, and was coming off a hold

  175. Harrisonheld16 says: Nov 4, 2010 6:37 PM

    Marv_Sleezy
    you want him to retire because your scared he will get a 3 sack game with a pick 12 tackles and 2 striped fumbles against your team if he is not held the whole game

  176. Deb says: Nov 4, 2010 6:50 PM

    @Holeinone09 and Bdrunk …
    Thanks, fellas. This is the third time I’ve inspired this sort of thing this week. I’m just wondering when PFT’s new comment policy will take effect … you know, the one that doesn’t allow gay, racial, or misogynistic comments. Sure wasn’t working the other day when a Vikes fan posted that I’m a wh*re and asked how many nights a dime would buy for his dog. Doesn’t seem to be working here either. Kinda sad how far people will go to prove they don’t have anything intelligent to say.

  177. Wardo says: Nov 4, 2010 7:02 PM

    When asked about how he was paying the fine harrison said “Straight cash hom….” He then figured out he can’t count that high. “I’ll write a ch…” Then he figured out he can’t read or write and has no idea how many zeros that is.
    The he blamed Obama for not liking black people and how he invited Brees to the white house for winning the super bowl. How could he do suck a thing if he didn’t beat the Stillers.

  178. Deb says: Nov 4, 2010 7:18 PM

    Wardo, it doesn’t make me feel any better to know they’re still letting racists through, too.

  179. Deb says: Nov 4, 2010 7:31 PM

    @PFT …
    You caught this one! Thank you :)

  180. QBall says: Nov 4, 2010 7:42 PM
  181. QBall says: Nov 4, 2010 7:45 PM

    Deb:
    Excellent posts but….
    if you’re going to use HTML tags, don’t forget to close them; otherwise, all of the posts after yours will be in italics:-)

  182. Tobias Jodter says: Nov 4, 2010 7:52 PM

    Questions for the NFL:
    1-Is there a system in place in the NFL today where ALL plays are reviewed for possible illegal and/or dangerous hits?
    2-If so, are ALL plays reviewed or only plays that are brought to the NFL’s attention by the media?
    3-Who are the adjudicators who review these plays? 4-Why have late hits and unnecessary roughness penalties (both called on the field and not) typically not been fineable offenses in the past if they have not resulted in any injury?
    5-Are all late hit and unnecessary roughness penalties now going to also result in fines and suspensions going forward?
    Question for the media: why is no one asking the NFL these questions?

  183. Blackn'Gold says: Nov 4, 2010 9:27 PM

    Thank you Mr. Florio for truncating the video to cut out the holding by the offensive tackle. That makes your case easier to sell. I guess it’s time to send some more money to Commissioner Goodell. My money!
    Yes, it was a late hit but not vicious. There are no vicious hits anymore in the NFL. Most of you have apparently forgotten. When the player is on the ground and the medical team is bringing over a board to slide the player onto because they dare not move him. THAT IS A VICIOUS HIT! And I’m glad those hits are gone. I only mention it as a yardstick for comparison.
    Most of you are just parroting what Commissioner Goodell considers to be good policy. This is all moot anyway. I doubt there will be any football in 2011. At least, not the football I remember.
    GO STEELERS!

  184. Wick says: Nov 4, 2010 9:40 PM

    @ steelersmichele who said on November 4, 2010 5:30 PM:
    http://nbcsports.ms nbc.com/id/40009814/ ns/sports-nfl/
    photographic evidence (since so many of you LOVE photos) to show all of you where his helmet is. It’s not in Drew’s back at all–it’s off to the side.
    What I’d like to know is how many other roughing the passer penalties were called on Sunday and how many of those were finable? You mean Harrison was the ONLY one who drew a flag for that that deserved to be called out?
    = = = = = = = = = = =
    Exactly.
    Here’s a key reason. Whose voice was squealing the loudest and the earliest????
    Whose?
    Certainly, a large factor in how much attention Harrison got for that weak ass “hit” — is how FLORIO tried (very successfully) to generate massive site hits (along with personal relevance) with his self-created subjectively inspired agenda-driven “objective” accounts entitled, “James Harrison can expect another fine via FedEx from 280 Park Avenue” or something to that effect.
    It’s just so wonderful having the NFL (American’s Passion) hijacked by testosterine-deficient pansies whose only experience with a football is hucking a Nerf around with their 6 year old daughter in the back yard.

  185. Tobias Jodter says: Nov 4, 2010 10:47 PM

    Yes, Just to be clear, not that long ago this hit would not even have drawn a flag. But, it was a bit late so I won’t quibble with that. But to fine him 20K is simply an atrocity.
    It wasn’t hard enough to even rattle Brees. He was not hurt on the play. The hit was not even remotely close to vicious. The NFL has essentially made a new
    rule: any late hit to the QB will carry with it a 20K fine.
    And I expect that for EVERY late hit flag or I will assume an anti-Harrison or anti-Steelers vendetta by Goodell…

  186. Deb says: Nov 4, 2010 10:54 PM

    @QBall …
    Thank you LOL I swear I closed it! (I thought I closed it :)

  187. Wardo says: Nov 4, 2010 11:25 PM

    Deb, sorry if you see comments about this guy being as dumb as a box of rocks and put race into the picture. Dumb doesn’t mean race…this is the guy that said…
    “This is how I feel, if you want to see the Pittsburgh Steelers, invite us when we don’t win the Super Bowl. As far as I’m concerned, he would’ve invited Arizona if they had won.”
    “I hear it’s not really a good neighborhood over there. Plus, most of my teammates know I’m scared of flying anyway … ”
    This is the guy that had a 2 year old child bitten by a pitbull.
    This is a guy that makes it a habit of making dumb statements.
    Sorry, you’re reading much more into this. This guy is dumb, white, black, asian, whatever…dumb.

  188. THEMIGHTYWHITEY says: Nov 5, 2010 12:07 AM

    retire now ….and go play in the UFL

  189. BSPN says: Nov 5, 2010 12:56 AM

    I actually hope the UFL becomes more popular than the NFL.

  190. somesome says: Nov 5, 2010 7:21 AM

    Yes, there are only a handful plays each week out of some 1,500+ that are being fined. Aways has been. It just moved into the media’s lime light.
    Harrison has been OBVIOUSLY warned. He does not even make an attempt of wrapping Brees up. He brings his arms up for a split second and takes them back down without even touching Brees, he then hits him with his helmet.
    Sorry, but that is p!ss-poor technique. That will get you fined every single time.
    Harrison is fast and hard to block over the outside. But that is it, he truely is a very limited OLB who cannot tackle. Harrison is tied for 36th in tackles in the league currently. All he does is hit, that is all he can do. If this is the only way he can be effective he will continue to be fined.

  191. Holeinone09 says: Nov 5, 2010 8:35 AM

    somesome, exactly how many Steeler games do you watch? Not many apparently, or you wouldn’t have said Harrison cannot tackle.
    Also, do you have stats on how many offensive plays that defenses are giving up? The Steelers defense keeps the opposing offense off the field more than other teams. If your defense sucks and the opposing offense is on the field for many plays, of course you have more chances to tackle somebody since the opposing offense is running a ton more plays on average. Duh.
    And somesome says “All he does is hit”. What is this, tiddlywinks?? Give me 11 players on defense that hit and play the way Harrison does, and I’ll take it any day.
    GO STEELERS!!

  192. Deb says: Nov 5, 2010 12:07 PM

    Wardo …
    Obviously that was supposed to be “read and write,” not right. Interesting faux pas since I “write” for a living. One of these days I’ll learn to proof before I submit.

  193. burgh1414 says: Nov 5, 2010 12:47 PM

    At what point does Harrison turn around and call harrassment on the league?
    From some of the info I’ve looked at it seems as if there were 10 roughing the passer calls and 3 helmet to helmet hits last weekend but only 3 fines dished out for them?

  194. Deb says: Nov 5, 2010 3:39 PM

    Well, crap, Wardo. They posted my typo correction but NOT my actual comment that I put up three and a half hours ago. Here we go again–typos corrected:
    @Wardo …
    “Straight cash hom … He then figured out he can’t count that high” and that wasn’t meant to be racist?? Who do you think you’re kidding?? I’m NOT as dumb as a box of rocks, so don’t bother playing your cute little semantic games with me. If you don’t see the inherent racism in your remarks, maybe you need to do some soul-searching.
    James isn’t as dumb as a box of rocks either. He doesn’t have a habit of making dumb statements–you’ve taking one incident out of context and blown it out of proportion. The man has a right NOT to go to the White House and didn’t go to the Bush White House after SBXL, either. The man can read and write–and has an interesting backstory. YOU should try reading his autobiography.
    So far, the DUMBEST statement I’ve read on the thread is that he “had a 2 year old child bitten by a pitbull.” Yeah, he sat the dog and child together and instructed the dog to bite. The child’s mother allowed the dog access to the child when he wasn’t home, you idiot. I don’t like pit bulls, but he’s hardly the only parent in America to own one. And rather than have the dog put down, he arranged for it to go to a facility that specializes in working with problem animals. He hopes to become a veterinarian after football.
    Like everyone else, you’re mouthing off about the personal character and qualities of the man because you don’t like his football team when you don’t know a bloody thing about him. Stop trying to make out like you have some special insight.

  195. edgarpoe says: Nov 5, 2010 5:40 PM

    If you figure in percentages of salaries/fines, the fine only equates to about a speeding ticket fine for the average joe. I really don’t see the fuss about it. He wasn’t ejected and he wasn’t suspended.

  196. smithopher says: Nov 6, 2010 10:48 PM

    that’s a penalty… he saw the ball was out, he could’ve avoided even touching him, he rammed him with the helmet right between his shoulders after the ball was out… throw that flag.

  197. worsethings says: Nov 7, 2010 7:47 AM

    burgh1414 says: November 5, 2010 12:47 PM
    At what point does Harrison turn around and call harrassment on the league?
    _____________________________________
    Seriously? How about, at what point does Harrison start playing by the rules like everyone else? If he doesn’t want to play by the rules he can quit.

  198. worsethings says: Nov 7, 2010 7:53 AM

    Deb says: November 5, 2010 3:39 PM
    Like everyone else, you’re mouthing off about the personal character and qualities of the man because you don’t like his football team when you don’t know a bloody thing about him.
    _____________________________________
    So I assume you are a close friend of his and can vouch for him?

  199. C.Bass says: Nov 7, 2010 8:44 AM

    Watch all the sacks of Matt Schaub v. Indy from last Monday night. At least twice, the Indy defender hit Schaub helmet-to-helmet. But since none were named, Harrison, I guess it’s ok.
    Goodell and Anderson are making statements, not enforcing rules. If the were enforcing rules, 20 players would be fined each week.

  200. DefendersOfTheFaith says: Nov 7, 2010 9:17 AM

    I love how most of the people on here can not spell properly.
    Idiots!!!!
    I am sure your parents are proud though.
    GO STEELERS!!!!!!!

  201. Tobias Jodter says: Nov 7, 2010 3:54 PM

    Watched the last 10 minutes of the Raven-Fins game – noticed Ngata was called for an unnecessary roughness (leading with the crown of the helmet) penalty. Anyone think it will be a fine or a suspension?

  202. Deb says: Nov 7, 2010 5:28 PM

    @Tobias Jodter …
    Only saw it once without the usual 20 replays, but I didn’t think he led with the crown of his helmet. It looked like his hands were out in front of him and he was pushing. I don’t believe he should be fined anymore than James should have been fined for the hit on Brees. And I don’t believe he will be fined because his name isn’t Harrison and he wasn’t wearing a Steelers #92.
    The good news is that neither Harrison nor Tomlin had anything public to say this week, so Goodell has made his point. That means James probably won’t get fined tomorrow night. But it won’t surprise me if Polamalu does. The master requires complete obedience.
    @worsethings …
    Harrison has been playing by the rules, as the still photos show; that’s the complaint. Try to keep up. I wouldn’t vouch for the personal character of my next-door neighbor. But since I’m familiar with James’s life story, I do probably have a better idea of his character than the people whose only knowledge of him is the uniform he wears. Your posts give yours away: You’re an immature, smart-aleck. Congratulations.
    @DefendersOfTheFaith …
    There’s no space in “cannot.” But isn’t everyone fortunate to have your genius as an example?

  203. Deb says: Nov 7, 2010 6:26 PM

    @Tobias Jodter …
    Only saw it once without the usual 20 replays, but I didn’t think he led with the crown of his helmet. It looked like his hands were out in front of him and he was pushing. I don’t believe he should be fined anymore than James should have been fined for the hit on Brees. And I don’t believe he will be fined because his name isn’t Harrison and he wasn’t wearing a Steelers #92.
    The good news is that neither Harrison nor Tomlin had anything public to say this week, so Goodell has made his point. That means James probably won’t get fined tomorrow night. But it won’t surprise me if Polamalu does. The master requires complete obedience.
    @worsethings …
    Harrison has been playing by the rules, as the still photos show; that’s the complaint. Try to keep up. I wouldn’t vouch for the personal character of my next-door neighbor. But since I’m familiar with James’s life story, I do probably have a better idea of his character than the people whose only knowledge of him is the uniform he wears. Your posts give yours away: You’re an immature, smart-aleck. Congratulations.
    @DefendersOfTheFaith …
    There’s no space in “cannot.” But isn’t everyone fortunate to have your genius as an example?

  204. somesome says: Nov 7, 2010 9:20 PM

    Ngata will be fined, why would that be a suspension?

  205. rebalynne says: Nov 11, 2010 7:09 AM

    Too bad he didn’t hit Goodell. THAT would have been FUNNY! BAMMMMM! Now get up Pillsbury Doughboy.

  206. rebalynne says: Nov 11, 2010 7:12 AM

    In & Out Burger says:
    Nov 4, 2010 1:10 PM
    “(Way to endear your client to 280 Park Avenue, Bill.)”
    Someone’s feeling smug today. The NFL isn’t paying Harrison, the Steelers are. The Steelers have made it clear that they think the new rules are ridiculous. So really, James’ agent is doing a fantastic job of endearing his client to the ones paying his bills. Way to think critically on that though Florio. You seem to try your very best to allow your vision to see only a tiny desolate part of every issue in sports.
    =======================================

    Take that Goodell, your fines mean NOTHING, expecially to the Rooneys. It also makes you look like a drooling idiot. Fine me. My team will pay it. LMAO LMAO LMAO. Fine away, the Rooney’s have billions. And you have how much? BTW, where does all this fine money to anyways? In your back pocket you low life leach.

  207. rebalynne says: Nov 11, 2010 7:13 AM

    The Rooneys are paying his fines anyways. Rooney to Goodell, BRING IT ON. WE CAN OUTLAST YOU ALL DAY LONG!

  208. rebalynne says: Nov 11, 2010 7:17 AM

    Deb

    complete obedience. First this isnt’ the military and secondly obey this! Don’t ever they Troy will get fined like that. Boy you are a moron… a female who thinks she KNOWS sports. There are very few and are you aren’t one of them. Go back to talking about ping pong.

  209. rebalynne says: Nov 11, 2010 7:19 AM

    @steelersmichele
    …. that’s because Ray ALWAYS finishes his tackle ….

    Yeah, it’s called murder.

  210. rebalynne says: Nov 11, 2010 7:21 AM

    @Wardo

    ALL football players are a bunch of rocks when it comes to brains.

  211. rebalynne says: Nov 11, 2010 6:44 PM

    James,

    Go tell Goodell to go F himself. That’s all he gets anyways. Retire – you have a BUTT load of money. We’ll miss you in Steeler nation.

    STRIKE NFL STRIKE… Condition — Goodell goes to hell!

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