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Week Nine picks

Every time I feel like I’m going to gain some ground on Rosenthal, I just can’t close the gap.

This past weekend, it took an upset by the Chargers over the Titans (those should count as extra) to keep me from falling three more games back.

For Week Eight, Rosenthal went 9-4.  I managed 8-5.

For the year, Rosenthal has moved to 78-39.  I’m five games back at 73-44.  Three-G still leads all ESPN talent; I’ve pulled into a tie with Mort and Stink for the best ESPN record.

While pondering how in the hell ESPN’s Eric Allen can be five games under .500 on the year when picking games straight up without the spread, please ponder our picks for Week Nine.


Jets at Lions

Florio’s take:  There’s an upset alert in Detroit this weekend, as the surprisingly potent Lions take on one of the top-five teams in the AFC.  But last weekend’s loss to the Packers will wake up the Jets, who’ll be ready to avoid what otherwise could have been a trap game.  Detroit can still give the Jets a run for their money, but they’re not yet ready to improve on their 2-36 record over the last 40 games not involving the Redskins.

Florio’s pick:  Jets 24, Lions 14.

Rosenthal’s take: The Lions are a different team at home, which should worry the Jets.  Jahvid Best is a little faster, and Calvin Johnson can jump a little higher.  Ndamukong Suh is so frightening that Redskins center Casey Rabach kept stepping on Donovan McNabb’s foot last week as Rabach backed up to block Suh.  The Jets can’t afford to be overconfident in this game, but their improving defense has the cardiovascular endurance to get it done. 
 
Rosenthal’s pick: Jets 22, Lions 17.

Dolphins at Ravens

Florio’s take:  This week’s “Something’s Gotta Give” game features the Dolphins, who are 4-0 on the road, and the Ravens, 3-0 at home.  Though I’m tempted to pick the visiting team (and I was leaning that way during the PFTV game of the week segment), I need to stick with my preseason pick for the Super Bowl not named the Dallas Cowboys.  Even though a loss will drop Miami to 4-4 and reduce their margin of error to one or two losses down the stretch (two years ago, 11-5 didn’t get New England into the playoffs at all), the Ravens are rested and motivated and ready to make a run at a division title.

Florio’s pick:  Ravens 17, Dolphins 13.

Rosenthal’s take:  I picked the Ravens to win the division and make the conference championship before the season started.  They are generally considered one of the top teams in the league.  After watching them for seven games, I just don’t see it yet.  The defense hasn’t been special; it’s been average.  The Dolphins look like a tougher team up front from top to bottom.  Sunday could serve as a reality check in Baltimore.

Rosenthal’s pick: Dolphins 24, Ravens 21.

Patriots at Browns

Florio’s take:  Two weeks ago, I was tempted to pick the upset when the Browns went to New Orleans.  As the Browns prepare to host the Patriots, I’m tempted to take the upset again.  But coach Bill Belichick is on a roll when it comes to dispensing defeat to former employees, and Eric Mangini’s presence as coach of the Browns will make it even harder for Cleveland to win.  Don’t count on a Moss-style man-hug for Mangini after this one.

Florio’s pick:  Patriots 28, Browns 17.

Rosenthal’s take: This is a much more even matchup than it appears.  The Browns are the best two-win team in football; a group greater than the sum of their spare parts.  The Patriots are built the same way, but they have Tom Brady.  Eric Mangini always did a nice job slowing down Brady while with the Jets, and this Patriots offense isn’t as explosive as usual.  Expect another close Browns loss.

Rosenthal’s pick: Patriots 20, Browns 16.

Chargers at Texans

Florio’s take:  Momentum versus desperation takes center stage in Houston, where a team better than its current record visits a team arguably worse than its won-loss tally.  With a weak Houston passing defense and a Chargers quarterback on pace to throw for nearly 5,300 yards, he could come close to throwing for that many on Sunday alone, even with a patchwork group of pass-catchers.

Florio’s pick:  Chargers 30, Texans 21.

Rosenthal’s take:  This game was going to be one of my upset specials.  Then I noticed the 3-5 Chargers are actually favored on the road.  Apparently, the lack of respect for the Texans defense is widespread.  Even with replacement receivers, Philip Rivers could crack 400 yards Sunday.  Matt Schaub and the Texans passing game needs to be elite to win, and they haven’t quite been the same this year. 

Rosenthal’s pick: Chargers 31, Texans 21.

Bears vs. Bills at Toronto

Florio’s take:  The Bills have pushed a pair of likely playoff teams to overtime on the road in their past two games.  The Bears aren’t a likely playoff team, so it finally could be time for the Bills to get a “W” against a Chicago team that remains in denial regarding its deep and profound flaws.

Florio’s pick:  Bills 20, Bears 14.

Rosenthal’s take: The Bills have the worst luck.  They get into overtime on the road against a quality team and their All Pro punter Brian Moorman and rock-solid kicker Rian Lindell let them down.  After two straight tough road losses, they now get stuck playing at “home” in Toronto.  Chan Gailey has the Bills offense playing well, and the defense can’t get worse.  The entire team is hungry and playing hard.  Despite being 4-3, the Bears aren’t a quality team.  It’s time.

Rosenthal’s pick: Bills 23, Bears 17.

Cardinals at Vikings

Florio’s take:  Receiver Larry Fitzgerald comes home to face a struggling Vikings team that desperately needs to face a struggling team like Fitzgerald’s Cardinals.  The Vikings have too much talent and too much pride to fall to 2-6, and they know that they need to get off to a fast start or they’ll be booed off the Mall of America Field.  Look for lots of Adrian Peterson and a defense that remembers how to tackle people — and that possibly forces a turnover or two.

Florio’s pick:  Vikings 17, Cardinals 10.

Rosenthal’s take:  Brett Favre sounded remarkably optimistic at his press conference Wednesday, although he admitted things could always get worse.  Losing to the Cardinals would qualify as much worse.  Arizona hasn’t played well on the road.  Their quarterbacks haven’t played well anywhere. I’ve taken the Vikings to win a grand total of one time this year. (Against Detroit. 1-for-1 baby!).  This game shapes up as another one that all the bad mojo in the world can’t ruin.

Rosenthal’s pick:  Vikings 26, Cardinals 19.

Buccaneers at Falcons

Florio’s take:  If the Bucs want to be known as the best team in the NFC, they need to beat one of the best teams in the NFC.  They get their chance on Sunday at Atlanta.  While the Bucs are moving in the right direction, they’re not ready to beat the elite teams.  By next year, they possibly will.  For now, they’re still learning how to be good.

Florio’s pick:  Falcons 31, Buccaneers 21.

Rosenthal’s take: If you’re starting a franchise, who do you want for the next decade: Josh Freeman or Matt Ryan?  If you said Ryan without thinking, please watch a few Freeman starts and get back to me.  Then keep in mind Freeman is three years younger.  It’s not all about the quarterback, though.  Freeman is just starting to develop, and his team has even longer to go.  This Falcons group is grown.

Rosenthal’s pick: Falcons 30, Bucs 20.

Saints at Panthers

Florio’s take:  The Saints finally are starting to look like the team that won Super Bowl XLIV.  And that’s bad news for the team that has managed to win only one game this year.  The Saints head into their bye on a high note — and they get Reggie Bush back when the bye ends.  As to the Panthers, it remains only a matter of time until coach John Fox hears a sentence containing the word “bye”.

Florio’s pic

k:  Saints 31, Panthers 16.

Rosenthal’s take:  Why are these teams playing again already?  The last time they met, Reggie Bush and Pierre Thomas were already hurt.  Jimmy Clausen was at quarterback for Carolina, and the Saints still barely escaped at home with a win.  New Orleans proved last week they can beat elite competition. They’ve rarely shown they can win convincingly against inferior competition. Look for another tight division battle. 

Rosenthal’s pick:  Saints 24, Panthers 20.

Giants at Seahawks

Florio’s take:  Undefeated at home, the Seahawks simply play better in an environment perfectly suited for coach Pete Carroll’s rah-rah style.  Though the Giants are the best team (for now) in the NFC, the bye week may have disrupted their momentum (see New York Jets).  Besides, the Giants haven’t won in Seattle since 1981.  Though I’m tempted to go with the mild upset, the rash of injuries in Seattle would make it a much more than a mild upset.  Besides, we think it may take a while to recover from that 33-3 loss to the Raiders.  

Florio’s take:  Giants 27, Seahawks 17.

Rosenthal’s take:  The Seahawks are undefeated at home, but they’ve lost three road games to mediocre opponents by an average of 21 points.  The Qwest Field home crowd rocks, but this insanity has to stop eventually.  The Giants have the best defense in the NFC and Seattle’s banged-up offensive line doesn’t have the players to stop them.

Rosenthal’s pick: Giants 24, Seahawks 16.

Colts at Eagles

Florio’s take:  Mike Vick is back, and the Eagles have a chance to prove that they’re legitimate against a Colts team that is struggling at many positions, but thriving at the one that matters most.  If this one were being played in Indy, I’d lean Colts.  But this one will be outdoors in Philly, and the Colts (who haven’t been truly dominant yet this year) has been far less than dominant when playing outdoors.  Even without DeSean Jackson, the Eagles have the talent to get it done at home — especially with an extra week to prepare for it.

Florio’s pick:  Eagles 31, Colts 28.

Rosenthal’s take: There’s a feeling the AFC is vastly superior to the NFC.  It’s certainly deeper.  But when Green Bay wins at the Jets and the Saints beat the Steelers, it’s a good reminder that there are no dominant teams.  The good NFC squads will win their share of games against AFC playoff teams. I still think the Eagles are a good team. The Colts – who have a brutal road schedule in the second half – aren’t the same group away from Lucas Oil Stadium.

Rosenthal’s pick: Eagles 29, Colts 24.

Chiefs at Raiders

Florio’s take:  With both teams relevant at the same time in years, this is one of the toughest calls of the season.  The Chiefs have played well all year; the Raiders have been dominant the last two weeks.  Given that the Chiefs tried to blow their game against the Bills, the smart play is to stick with the team that has left no doubt against the Broncos and Seahawks.

Florio’s pick:  Raiders 23, Chiefs 13.

Rosenthal’s take: This game will shape the arc of the AFC West race.  It’s over if Kansas City wins.  The Chargers and Raiders won’t recover from a three-game deficit considering the Chiefs’ schedule.  If the Raiders win, it’s game on.  My heart is pulling for the Raiders because it would be a better story.  My head thinks the Chiefs have the most complete team Oakland has faced since the Titans in Week One.  Raider Nation wants PFT picking against them anyways.

Rosenthal’s pick: Chiefs 19, Raiders 16.

Cowboys at Packers

Florio’s take:  I made the mistake last week of thinking that the removal of pressure and expectations would allow this team to relax and play good football.  The repeated public apologies from Jerry Jones seem hollow, and there’s no reason to believe his team has finally gotten the message.  Meanwhile, the Packers have shut out one of the best teams in the league in their own house, and Green Bay likely will delight in the opportunity to run up the score against the Cowboys — especially when a win will pull the all-time regular-season series to 12-12.

Florio’s pick:  Packers 42, Cowboys 17.

Rosenthal’s take: This is a Sunday night game, so it’s hard to ignore.  After this one, let’s all decide as a nation to completely ignore the Dallas Cowboys until Thanksgiving.  Then we can not mention them once after that.  Let them be miserable in silence.  It’s the only way to truly get back at Jerry Jones for making us watch this dreadful group so regularly.

Rosenthal’s pick: Packers 28, Cowboys 13.

Steelers at Bengals

Florio’s take:  When these two teams get together, throw out the records and the expectations.  Either team can win this one — and quite possibly by more than 10 points.  The Bengals swept the Steelers in 2009, the Steelers swept Cincy in 2007 and 2008.  Pittsburgh’s postseason win in Cincinnati five years ago shattered Carson Palmer’s knee and propelled the Steelers to their long-awaited one for the thumb.  This time around, the Bengals’ backs are against the wall, and the Steelers are stumbling a bit.  Still, the Steelers are the superior team, and they know how much they have to lose if their losing streak expands to two.

Florio’s pick:  Steelers 27, Bengals 13.

Rosenthal’s take:  For roughly two drives each week, the Bengals offense looks like world beaters.  The rest of the game they look like they 2009 Bengals.  Cincinnati has enough weapons to give Pittsburgh’s occasionally leaky secondary trouble, but the Bengals defense isn’t the same group as a year ago.  Cincinnati’s entire team has fewer sacks than 10 players this year.  Ben Roethlisberger can get comfortable this week.

Rosenthal’s pick: Steelers 30, Bengals 21.

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66 Responses to “Week Nine picks”
  1. Rex Grossman says: Nov 4, 2010 11:58 AM

    Bills over the Bears I must be seeing things what in the hell is wrong with you guys do you realize that this is the Buffalo Bills we are talking about oh who am I kidding you’re right the Bears suck blah

  2. CHIEF ZEE says: Nov 4, 2010 12:03 PM

    Eagles over the Colts???? What are you smoking?

  3. Audient says: Nov 4, 2010 12:06 PM

    The Browns-Pats game will be close. Pats will probably win, but I expect it to be interesting.

  4. LowVoltage says: Nov 4, 2010 12:11 PM

    How can you sttempt to ‘group’ yourself with ESPN talent when you are not one of them?

  5. texasPHINSfan says: Nov 4, 2010 12:12 PM

    Rex, Shanahan is on the phone buddy…. said it’s something about running his 2-minute offense

  6. NE#12 says: Nov 4, 2010 12:22 PM

    Belichick knows mangini… And knows a Ryan defense. The Pats have this one in the bag!

  7. DonthatetheJetscausetheyarebetterthanyourteam says: Nov 4, 2010 12:28 PM

    Something tells me Cincy finds a way to get it done V Pitts. ,these 2 always play each other tough….How quick we forget how dreadful the Chargers have been on the road this year (you both pick them to win this one , did either of you take in the fact that Gates said he’s more and likely out, no Gates no Charger win ,even if Houston Defense is terrible ,so are the Chargers on the Road..

  8. Richm2257 says: Nov 4, 2010 12:28 PM

    Rosenthal’s take: This is a much more even matchup than it appears. The Browns are the best two-win team in football
    ————————————————
    Seriously Greg, a 2 win team – coached by a bitter rival, no less – is an “even matchup” to a 6 win team ?????? Really?

  9. UcantCme says: Nov 4, 2010 12:30 PM

    Bill 0-16…there’s nothing else to say on these weekly picks!

  10. jjcruiser says: Nov 4, 2010 12:33 PM

    I’m also very surprised at Eagles over Colts. I saw the Colts dismantle the Texans last week, and I’m not sold on the Eagles defense. We’ll see.

  11. TP7 says: Nov 4, 2010 12:37 PM

    CHIEF ZEE says:
    November 4, 2010 12:03 PM
    Eagles over the Colts???? What are you smoking?
    ————————————————
    Chief, can you do me a favor? Check the Eagles record under Andy Reid after a bye week. Just curious. Thanks Chief!

  12. ArtieLange says: Nov 4, 2010 12:37 PM

    LowVoltage says:
    November 4, 2010 12:11 PM
    How can you sttempt to ‘group’ yourself with ESPN talent when you are not one of them?
    ————–
    The same way ESPN has breaking news 12 hours after it’s posted on this site.

  13. 81megatron81 says: Nov 4, 2010 12:43 PM

    Florio, Rosenthal,
    I know what you meant was…
    Lions 24
    Jets 21
    You’re welcome
    -CA Lions fan

  14. sraidersteve says: Nov 4, 2010 12:44 PM

    Chargers over the titans in San diego is not an upset..if I recall the spread was chargers -3.5..their defense is mediocre at best but offense is still top 5 and at home that should never count as upset.
    Now to the raiders vs. chiefs..should be a good game and the raiders need it more for a ton of reasons..hopefully it sells out and they come with the same energy they had the last two weeks and we should be looking good.
    Go Raiders!!

  15. Disagreelos says: Nov 4, 2010 12:44 PM

    Raiders over the chiefs flo picking like that you’ll never get out the hole

  16. roboninja says: Nov 4, 2010 12:45 PM

    Taking Vick over Manning is never a good idea. That is my “upset” special of the week; I could not believe the Colts are underdogs.

  17. DEMOLITION says: Nov 4, 2010 12:48 PM

    No Greg With An Xtra G (But Isn’t A G). What the RAIDER NATION wants is for you and your croonies to stop taking cheap jabs at them every chance you get – even in articles that have nothing to do with them.
    I’m sure you can at least agree there are far worse teams out there now.
    You want to be respected by your peers or readers? How about an unbiased ‘article’ and laying out the facts instead of the snide comments to show your disdain for the silver and black.

  18. ejtowne says: Nov 4, 2010 12:49 PM

    I want to take a minute and tip my hat to Mike Florio and Greg Rosenthal. Forget ESPN, NFL.com and all those other NFL sites, PFT ROCKS! I am glad my brother turned me on to this site. You guys make this website fun and informative at the same time. I check your stories several times daily. Just wanna let you guys know that your doing an awesome job, and that I enjoy reading your posts! Anyone else with me on this?

  19. Cruells says: Nov 4, 2010 12:51 PM

    The Eagles haven’t lost after a bye in the Andy Reid era.
    With Vick and LeSean running wild iI think they got a great shot at the Colts.

  20. TFormation says: Nov 4, 2010 1:00 PM

    This is weird for me to type, but I’m with you Rex Grossman. Bills can’t defend the run at all.
    What are you guys thinking? The Bills are DUE for a win, are they? Maybe, but not this week. This week, they’re due to have their run defense trounced AGAIN courtesy of Forte & Taylor.
    The Bears are a schizo team, granted, but they had their stuff together to beat the weak Panthers on the road. Following a bye, they’ll definitely have their stuff together against the Bills.

  21. 8man says: Nov 4, 2010 1:01 PM

    Browns can run the ball. Browns are at home and coming off a bye. They will be in this game and have a chance to win. It will be a good one to watch.
    I think Miami can win in Baltimore. The road doesn’t bother them. And if not for yet another referee mistake, they’d be 5-2.

  22. Floriostoupee says: Nov 4, 2010 1:06 PM

    I guess the guys at PFT have to compare themselves to a site/network such as ESPN that has actual football knowledge, unlike NBC……..

  23. poodawg says: Nov 4, 2010 1:18 PM

    “For roughly two drives each week, the Bengals offense looks like world beaters. The rest of the game they look like they 2009 Bengals. ”
    I think you mean 2008 Bengals, or any Bengals team from 91 to 03.
    In 2009 they swept the AFCN, and made their one and done playoff appearance. Bengals fans wish they looked like the 2009 Bengals.

  24. TP7 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:19 PM

    Cruells says:
    November 4, 2010 12:51 PM
    The Eagles haven’t lost after a bye in the Andy Reid era.
    With Vick and LeSean running wild iI think they got a great shot at the Colts.
    ————————————————-
    Thanks Cruells. You gave Chief a break today….his homework was to find this stat. You da man!

  25. Paul says: Nov 4, 2010 1:26 PM

    While I’d love the Browns to pull the upset, I think the Patriots win and it won’t be close. If there’s one guy in this league Belichick wants to thoroughly crush, it’s Mangini. He will do whatever he can to rub Mangini’s nose in it, especially if it would help put some nails in Mangini’s coaching coffin. Patriots 27, Browns 3

  26. SFNFLer says: Nov 4, 2010 1:28 PM

    Raiders 37
    KC 10
    Easy.

  27. TampaBoy2002 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:31 PM

    Oh how the flippers will flop when the Bucs beat the Falcons on Sunday. halfway point in the season…. tis too late to jump on this bandwagon guys.

  28. ArtModellsPimp says: Nov 4, 2010 1:33 PM

    Richm2257 says:
    Seriously Greg, a 2 win team – coached by a bitter rival, no less – is an “even matchup” to a 6 win team ?????? Really?
    ————-
    Don’t watch much AFC North football, do you? If all you can do is look at the coaches, you are in a lot of trouble. Ask New Orleans what they think about playing the Browns…
    Cleveland – 28
    N. England – 12

  29. NE#12 says: Nov 4, 2010 1:37 PM

    8man – yes browns CAN run but belichick knows that. He’s gonna stack the box (that’s what she said) and make colt beat them … Which he can’t.

  30. dukelonghorn says: Nov 4, 2010 1:40 PM

    re: Florio’s take on Patriots at Browns…
    If I recall correctly, *three* weeks ago Florio had the Steelers putting Colt McCoy in the hospital (or worse) and running away with a score of 59-0 ?
    Just curious Florio, did you ever get a chance to visit Colt in the hospital? Seems like he deserves at least that much.

  31. SomeFans says: Nov 4, 2010 1:40 PM

    Florio- you’re going to continue to lose betting on the hapless jests. You should know better.
    I mean a shut out AT hime- that’s pathetic!

  32. DonthatetheJetscausetheyarebetterthanyourteam says: Nov 4, 2010 1:49 PM

    81megatron81 says:
    November 4, 2010 12:43 PM
    Florio, Rosenthal,
    I know what you meant was…
    Lions 24
    Jets 21
    You’re welcome
    -CA Lions fan
    ……………………………………………………………………………..
    The Lions will not score more than 7 points this week , this not the Rams or SKins D coming to town there TRON ……

  33. wtf__seriously says: Nov 4, 2010 1:49 PM

    ejtowne says:
    I want to take a minute and tip my hat to Mike Florio and Greg Rosenthal. Forget ESPN, NFL.com and all those other NFL sites, PFT ROCKS! I am glad my brother turned me on to this site. You guys make this website fun and informative at the same time. I check your stories several times daily. Just wanna let you guys know that your doing an awesome job, and that I enjoy reading your posts! Anyone else with me on this?
    ======================
    I am with you.
    Thanks Florio and Rosenthal. You make a loooong work day more bearable.

  34. DonthatetheJetscausetheyarebetterthanyourteam says: Nov 4, 2010 1:51 PM

    NE#12 says:
    November 4, 2010 1:37 PM
    8man – yes browns CAN run but belichick knows that. He’s gonna stack the box (that’s what she said) and make colt beat them … Which he can’t.
    AGREED…
    )

  35. somesome says: Nov 4, 2010 2:12 PM

    Richm2257 says:
    Seriously Greg, a 2 win team – coached by a bitter rival, no less – is an “even matchup” to a 6 win team ?????? Really?
    ————-
    I also believe that the Pats find a way to win. But they are the worst 6-1 team in recent history. They were outplayed during the first half of the last three games, they needed three punts from the Ravens in overtime to finally beat them. Brady was sitting on the sideline waiting to see if Keading makes The field goal. They find ways to win, yes, but they are everything BUT dominant. It will not be a blow-out.
    As for Packers scoring 42 – with WHAT? They could not score 42 with what they can field even if there was no opposing D on the field.

  36. ClaysWife says: Nov 4, 2010 2:25 PM

    somesome, have you ever considered taking an english class?

  37. BroncosFan says: Nov 4, 2010 2:39 PM

    I could buy Eagles over Colts. Indy’s D wavers from adequate to awful depending on its pass rush, and Michael Vick seems a pretty good cure for the Dwight Freeney blues. Then again, Philly’s D has been quite bad as well. I guess take the overs is what I’m saying.

  38. packersurle says: Nov 4, 2010 2:43 PM

    I agree with most of the picks..
    I would take the colts over eagles.
    I would also take Lions over Jets for the upset.

  39. Dewey Axewoond says: Nov 4, 2010 2:48 PM

    TFormation says:
    November 4, 2010 1:00 PM
    This is weird for me to type, but I’m with you Rex Grossman. Bills can’t defend the run at all.
    What are you guys thinking? The Bills are DUE for a win, are they? Maybe, but not this week. This week, they’re due to have their run defense trounced AGAIN courtesy of Forte & Taylor.
    The Bears are a schizo team, granted, but they had their stuff together to beat the weak Panthers on the road. Following a bye, they’ll definitely have their stuff together against the Bills.
    _______________________________
    I’m with you in spirit, and agree with your conclusion (that I THINK) the Bears will win, and do it by running…
    BUT–
    Lovie’s only been so-so after the bye week:
    2004 L,13-10 to Redskins
    2005 L, 20-10 to Browns
    2006 W, 41-10 over 49ers
    2007 W, 17-6 over Raiders
    2008 W, 27-23 over Lions
    2009 L, 21-14 to Falcons
    We KNOW they need to run more, and they can.
    As one source says,
    “Bears need to get something going — namely the running game — given they’ve suffered two consecutive defeats in which they passed the ball more than three times more than they handed off to running backs Matt Forte and Chester Taylor.
    Chicago ranks 26th in the NFL in rushing average (88.6), and 30th in attempts. Interestingly the 29th-ranked team (Detroit Lions) in terms of rushing attempts (159) ran 24 fewer times than the 28th-ranked club (Green Bay Packers).
    Of the four teams (Lions, Bears, Cowboys, and Cardinals) ranked at the bottom of the league in rushing attempts, only one — the Bears — has a record of .500 or better. Of the four teams (Saints, Broncos, Redskins and Packers) ranked just above the bottom four, all but one — the Broncos — has a winning record.”
    Anyway, one thing remains painfully clear–both Flo-hole and G-cubed remain in denial regarding their deep and profound flaws.
    Bear down.
    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4667380/second-half-needs-running-start

  40. kellyb91985 says: Nov 4, 2010 2:49 PM

    @somesome – “they needed three punts from the Ravens in overtime to finally beat them” Umm… you’re forgetting that the Baltimore Ravens are a great football team.

  41. RadrHatr says: Nov 4, 2010 2:50 PM

    Chiefs take a leak on the AFC West tree this weekend, marking it as theirs!!!
    Chiefs 31, Raiders 16

  42. Whoplayswhere2 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:02 PM

    I’ll take the Bengals by 3. Carson Palmer sets a late 4th quarter drive to set up Nugent from 43 yards. 17-14. I’m a homer!

  43. TFormation says: Nov 4, 2010 3:02 PM

    Excellent points, Dewey. Thanks for posting Lovie’s post-bye record, too.
    Bear Down!

  44. habibfromnewdehli says: Nov 4, 2010 3:03 PM

    Too bad flex-scheduling doesn’t start this week.
    Would love to see Ravens/Dolphins or Raiders/Chiefs on Sunday Night. Both are much better options than Cowboys/Packers.
    Guess it’s the bar this weekend to see the games.

  45. acs3 says: Nov 4, 2010 3:04 PM

    somesome says:
    November 4, 2010 2:12 PM
    As for Packers scoring 42 – with WHAT? They could not score 42 with what they can field even if there was no opposing D on the field.
    ———-
    They’re planning on scoring with their defense this week. One for Tramon and one for Woodson.

  46. Chuck says: Nov 4, 2010 3:05 PM

    Thanks for picking against the Raiders, Rosenthal. Youre right, Raider Nation prefers that you pick against them. A lock Raider victory especially if Gradkowski gets the start.

  47. FireChildress says: Nov 4, 2010 3:30 PM

    Cowboys will win

  48. funi says: Nov 4, 2010 3:55 PM

    People who say who picks are not good are the same people who get 6-7 right a week! K.C wins in Oakland and Oanland wins in K.C….Look it up..

  49. jimmySee says: Nov 4, 2010 5:25 PM

    I am a long time Packers fan — but this game is a trap for Green Bay.
    We can’t forget that Tampa Bay beat the Packers last year!

  50. USCG-BUC says: Nov 4, 2010 11:35 PM

    So would the Bucs beat the Falcons would you like your crow with BBQ sauce or gravy?
    “I wouldnt feed that crow to my dogs man!”–Randy #84,18,81 and again 84 only to become #? Moss

  51. CiggyByrns says: Nov 5, 2010 12:56 AM

    There is some sort of reason that the Giants haven’t beaten the Seahawks at home since 1981. Even with the battered O-line and the backup QB…I expect the Giants to leave Seattle with their mouth’s open in disbelief. Don’t under estimate the power of the 12th man. Ever.

  52. LionsPlayoffs2011 says: Nov 5, 2010 1:32 AM

    Browns are not the best 2-win team in football.

  53. boltschick says: Nov 5, 2010 1:39 AM

    I don’t like the Chargers on the road at 10 am PT. They rarely play well on the road and tend to play especially poorly at 10 am.

  54. David56 says: Nov 5, 2010 6:50 AM

    I just would like to see the Lions, Bills and Raiders win just because I’d like to see them win. Is that a good enough reason without drowning in an ocean of stats?
    And don’t forget that greatest of all evils: the yellow flag. I’ve seen too many games in my 56 years that were turned around when out flys the yellow flag to kill a drive or take away a huge gain or, Heaven helps us, bring back a touchdown on yet another stupid holding penalty.

  55. somesome says: Nov 5, 2010 7:33 AM

    @Clayswife
    This is JUST a blog. And of all the bad posts here you pick mine? Stop hiding behind your wife and tell me how you are really feeling …. are you a Pats fan, did I hurt your feelings? I promise I will try to do better in the future and proof read my posts … and maybe you can add something football related … moron.

  56. whodaman88 says: Nov 5, 2010 8:43 AM

    TP7 says:
    November 4, 2010 12:37 PM
    CHIEF ZEE says:
    November 4, 2010 12:03 PM
    Eagles over the Colts???? What are you smoking?
    ——————– ——————– ——–
    Chief, can you do me a favor? Check the Eagles record under Andy Reid after a bye week. Just curious. Thanks Chief!
    ————————————————
    TP7 did you do your own homework? Just Sayin..
    The Eagles have yet to beat Manning and are 0-3 overall, having been outscored a whopping 124-51 in those games.

  57. smithopher says: Nov 5, 2010 10:46 AM

    The Eagles will probably lose, Peyton is the man. Bills over Bears is a good pick, the Bears aren’t very good and will probably give the Bills defense opportunities to make plays, if they can come up with them. Jets will smash the Lions this week. Giants should beat Seahawks too, Dungy must have been joking saying that Seahawks are better. I guess we’ll see this weekend.

  58. Jangocat says: Nov 5, 2010 10:57 AM

    All I can say is wow, you two are clueless. Eagles over the Colts? Did you guys not see the Eagles defense give up 27 points in the 4th quarter last game? Manning will pick them apart, Eagles got no shot. I’m an Eagles fan BTW.

  59. MissionValleyMafia says: Nov 5, 2010 11:21 AM

    Hmmm Florio the Chargers were the FAVORITES! God you hate San Diego so much , the east coast bias here and the worldwide leader is sickening…

  60. Kain-MD says: Nov 5, 2010 7:21 PM

    Any Given Sunday
    Hey the Browns could actually pull off a win over the Pats…if the wind is just right and Brady’s shoes are untied.

  61. steeltime09 says: Nov 6, 2010 4:21 PM

    I tend to agree that the Colts will beat the Eagles but playoffticker.com even had the Eagles favored although at only 55% certainty.

  62. Pervy's Stepdad says: Nov 7, 2010 10:09 AM

    Agreed on the trap game thing for Green Bay…first quarter will tell the tale. Two TD drives by Green Bay and force a couple 3 and outs and I will change my mind but this game will be close, could go either way, but Green Bay “should” win. A close came would likely go to the Cowgirls. Attention Vikings’ fans, that is how a rational fan thinks.

  63. william a says: Nov 7, 2010 11:07 AM

    Gratuitous cheap shot on Eric Allen, but well-deserved.

  64. J-Star says: Nov 7, 2010 11:22 AM

    While pondering how in the hell ESPN’s Eric Allen can be five games under .500 on the year when picking games straight up without the spread, please ponder our picks for Week Nine
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    Sterling Sharpe is on Playbook AFC & NFC on the NFL channel. Coming into week 9 he is 10 games under .500 @ 53-63. LOL

  65. suggzMan says: Nov 7, 2010 4:44 PM

    After the ravens game that only “reality check” should be that Rosenthal doesn’t know how to pick games..nice one buddy

  66. trigzter says: Nov 7, 2010 8:03 PM

    CHIEF ZEE says:
    November 4, 2010 12:03 PM
    Eagles over the Colts???? What are you smoking?
    Man you must feel dumb now

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