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Troy Polamalu doesn’t understand the NFL fine process

Various members of the Pittsburgh Steelers lately have been very outspoken regarding the NFL’s rules regarding fines for in-game rules violations.

But some of the Steelers need to get their facts straight.

The latest offender?  Safety Troy Polamalu, who thinks that the same person who levies the fine handles the appeal of it.

“When I appeal or anyone appeals, we appeal to the same person who gave us the fine,” Polamalu told Dan Patrick on Tuesday.  “I just think it could be cleaned up a little bit.  The fines are so big right now — $50,000, $75,000.  We just gotta make sure we’re fining people for the right reason.”

Polamalu suggested some changes.  “I think that current players and front-office people and some former players should be part of the process,” Polamalu said.  “You can haveformer players, maybe one offensive and defensive player from each team. . . .  Maybe coaches involved.”

Actually, coaches already are involved.  Two former coaches, not the league.  Art Shell and Ted Cottrell handle the appeals of fines imposed by the league for in-game violations.

Earlier this year, the NFL and the union agreed to this approach, and the league and the NFLPA shares in the fees and expenses.  Thus, Shell and Cottrell aren’t league employees; they’re employed jointly by management and labor.

And Shell and Cottrell have recently shown their independence, overturning the $10,000 league-imposed fine on Chiefs defensive tackle Shaun Smith for grabbing groins.

We’ll give Troy the benefit of the doubt on this one, even though we’re starting to wonder whether one or more members of the Steelers organization are subtly shading the facts in order to keep maximum pressure on the league office to refrain from taking action that will hurt the competitive interests of a defense-driven franchise.

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  1. jandrews86 says: Nov 9, 2010 1:47 PM

    Is anyone else getting sick of this topic? I swear, all I ever read about anymore is how the Cowboys suck and fines for hits.

  2. Goodell Wears Pink Nuthuggers says: Nov 9, 2010 1:49 PM

    Florio–u must have smoked tons of weed while studying for the bar..nothing else explains your wild range of paranoia in your last paragraph..

  3. KnuckleBucket says: Nov 9, 2010 1:50 PM

    Join the club Troy, no one does.

  4. Jservo says: Nov 9, 2010 1:51 PM

    They made a video of the right and the wrong way to hit someone, or what would be deemed a fineable offense. Maybe they need to go into more detail so everyone is on the same page as to the process and details of these new mandated rule(s). Have them sign an agreement after understanding all there is to know so there won’t be any cases of playing dumb when you get fined 1/5 of your game check for a hit you had control over…..does that make sense?

  5. petro says: Nov 9, 2010 1:55 PM

    Your last paragraph made a bold accusation.

  6. Jeff W says: Nov 9, 2010 1:55 PM

    Give Troy a break. He is probably still woozy from getting destroyed on the Benson TD last night!

  7. Iburnedmy#7jersey says: Nov 9, 2010 1:59 PM

    Eh, big deal. I’m surprised Polamalu can spell “fine” after the block by that fatboy Deko.

  8. Tom says: Nov 9, 2010 1:59 PM

    This topic is the filler for dead air space.

  9. Ositadiablo says: Nov 9, 2010 2:00 PM

    Head and Shoulders must rot the brain.
    Steelers are bitching because they want to keep taking guys out just like Harrison said after he speared Cribbs with his helmet and a forearm slap to Massiquoi’s head. He said his aim was to take away the Wildcat and the Browns best receiver.

  10. MightyMightyLAFootball says: Nov 9, 2010 2:00 PM

    “KnuckleBucket says:
    November 9, 2010 1:50 PM
    Join the club Troy, no one does.”
    *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
    Word.

  11. bleedsgreen says: Nov 9, 2010 2:01 PM

    and how is this NOT worse than nick folk not knowing that the rule that the league DID JUST CHANGE was only going to start during the playoffs?

  12. Browning's Nagle says: Nov 9, 2010 2:01 PM

    @ Florio
    No one cares one bit what YOU have to say on this matter anymore… in fact, it seems to me that the longer you run this blog site, the more you expose yourself as nothing more than a hack whose arguments are loosly put together with spliced quotes, non-facts and hysterical dilusion!

  13. Richie's Rebel Rousers says: Nov 9, 2010 2:05 PM

    Quit “lawyering” up the game Florio!

  14. dietrich43 says: Nov 9, 2010 2:06 PM

    You don’t expect the players to know more than the average fan do you? They’re like most fans – get all their info from ESPN.

  15. boblavoie says: Nov 9, 2010 2:06 PM

    If Troy doesn’t understand the fine process how can anyone expect the millions of fans watching this nonsence to understand it??
    I can certainly understand the league’s desire to limit serious injuries but how in the hell are you going to determine what’s deliberate and what is accidental?? It seems to me that if your going to inforce these “rules” and take away someones paycheck – you better make the RIGHT CALL.
    Another thing, how do you control these trained FOOTBALL PLAYERS who are going 100 miles per hour to slam on the brakes? Better have a good judge and jury!

  16. sevenwords says: Nov 9, 2010 2:08 PM

    Of course he doesn’t understand the process. He’s too worried about his hair!

  17. benh999 says: Nov 9, 2010 2:09 PM

    @Goodell Wears Pink Nuthuggers,
    I am pretty sure the WV bar exam’s primary component involves smoking tons of weed.

  18. nflisking says: Nov 9, 2010 2:12 PM

    @jandrews86
    I’m with you bud. Good call.

  19. OJPimpson says: Nov 9, 2010 2:13 PM

    The NFL is so soft I am disappointed . Did anyone else see the ” blow to the head ” on Peyton manning

  20. steelersmichele says: Nov 9, 2010 2:13 PM

    Did you listen to Goodell last night before the game. He was asked specific questions by Michele Tafoya (I think that’s her name) and instead of giving specific answers, he rambled on about tackling fundamentals. She asked about offensive players lowering their head at the last minute and even player confusion, and Goodell never gave a direct answer. It looked like he was hesitant to say anything that may be used against him in a court of law (that last part was for you Florio).

  21. dabarber says: Nov 9, 2010 2:15 PM

    He’s been drinking too much Head and Shoulders–he’s gets stupider as his hair gets fluffier.

  22. _ROCKSTAR_ says: Nov 9, 2010 2:16 PM

    Steelers keep complaining cause they are the dirtiest players

  23. RockPile says: Nov 9, 2010 2:18 PM

    Shocking. Next thing we’ll learn is an NFL quarterback didn’t know games could end in a tie.

  24. TheDPR says: Nov 9, 2010 2:23 PM

    That’s what he gets for stealing shampoo.

  25. Steelers+Refs=True Love says: Nov 9, 2010 2:27 PM

    Maybe if Troy and the rest of the Pissburgh goons brain’s weren’t mush from all the helmet hits you could figure it out. Now run along to your next Head and Shoulders commercial.

  26. mborz says: Nov 9, 2010 2:29 PM

    The idea that the Steelers front office is somehow behind this brings back memories of when Florio presumed that the front office was hiding Dennis Dixon from the rest of the NFL. We all saw how that turned out.
    Sometimes it might be a good idea to just take things at face value.

  27. SkinsFanInNebraska says: Nov 9, 2010 2:31 PM

    Goodell speaks vaguely, the helmet-to-helmet hit guidelines are vague, the enforcement process is vaguely understood…
    Welcome to the National Fluffspeak League.

  28. dbartdog says: Nov 9, 2010 2:34 PM

    LOL, Troy is just covering up for that Cheating HGH user James Harrison…in fact he’s trying to cover for the cheatingest organization in all of sports…the Steelers. Steroids and HGH has been OKed by the Rooneys for years and years.

  29. Cornell Steelers says: Nov 9, 2010 2:34 PM

    Wow, if you just read PFT you’d think that the Steelers comprise mostly of rebellious thugs and idiots. This site certainly does have a bias regarding the Steelers, but it isn’t the one most people think.

  30. permissions denied - eat me! says: Nov 9, 2010 2:35 PM

    What I don’t understand is why Troy doesn’t cut his gay-ass hair!?!? YOU LOOK LIKE A FREAKIN WOMAN!!!!!!

  31. NoRingsForYou says: Nov 9, 2010 2:40 PM

    Florio – Once again…….your Vikes lost SB IV. The Steelers slapped ‘em around. You cried into the carpet (yeah I heard you talking with your companion, Paul Allen, about it). But that was a long time ago, you need to move on.

  32. gravy18 says: Nov 9, 2010 2:40 PM

    You would think this dope would get his facts straight before he whines to Dan Patrick about it.

  33. MikeFlorioIsMyBitch says: Nov 9, 2010 2:41 PM

    Nice Florio. This may have meant something if you posted it before Goodell explained the procedure yesterday! You didnt understand either until then………

  34. Caldon says: Nov 9, 2010 2:44 PM

    Either the steelers have an agenda, or they have a low IQ. I’m good with either or both as the explanation.

  35. Watcher_Don says: Nov 9, 2010 2:50 PM

    So, let me get this straight. The Steelers get a break from the refs every damn time the ball gets NEAR the end zone and now they want to have a “voice” in the levying of fines for headhunting hits. Sure. Seems fair to me.

  36. LebronJeremy says: Nov 9, 2010 2:52 PM

    I completely understand it Troy. If there is a media backlash because of the hit, it’s illegal. If Mike Florio and Peter King don’t say anything about it, it’s not illegal.
    Pretty simple…

  37. jamaltimore says: Nov 9, 2010 2:57 PM

    I loved seeing the long hair getting pancaked last night at the goal line. Chucky called it out but naturally the network would not want to make the big bad OVERATED rapist led steelers and their shampoo salesman look bad as he was smashed into the ground by a cincy lineman. No replay.

  38. myeaglescantwin says: Nov 9, 2010 3:02 PM

    one major aspect that isnt even touched in any of these articles is the fact that offensive players ALWAYS lead with their heads. how are Defenses supposed to make clean hits when the guy they are tackling SPEARS his way forward.. complete BS. both sides of the ball should be finded for this type of behavior and play. this is getting out of control.
    & let them blow smoke up your ass about worrying about the well being of the players as they do their damnedest to push the year to 18 games.. get real

  39. JVult says: Nov 9, 2010 3:14 PM

    Of course you will give him the benefit of the doubt because he plays for your Steelers.

  40. Chuck says: Nov 9, 2010 3:18 PM

    The real reason the NFL is doing this is to make it easier to score points for the offense, not for safety. The NFL has been on this mission since the early 70s.

  41. olskool711 says: Nov 9, 2010 3:20 PM

    olskool711 doesn’t understand the steelroids coordinated disinformation campaign meant to allow the continuation of lowering their heads and planting the top of their helmets into the side of the opponents playmakers heads. He doesn’t understand why the NFL picks on guys whose identity is to propel themselves into the head of a defenseless victim and then act like they don’t understand why anybody would have a problem with it.
    He doesn’t understand the continued gang rape on the facts concerning them being cheap shot artists.
    He doesn’t understand how tools like Gruden and Jaworski can create an all new reality on things that have happend in order to become another stooler apologist.
    You guys are right. I’m tired of this crap.
    Can’t the rest of us just want the game to allow great players to play, and live the rest of their lives in somewhat less pain?
    Why doe we pay such lipservice to these overrated thugs?
    Why?

  42. iusedtobeteddybayer says: Nov 9, 2010 3:29 PM

    I’ve got no problem w/ the last paragraph. What ‘lil’ Napoleon Florio is saying is the best defense (against future fines) is a good offense. Nothing going on here. Keep moving.
    “tons of weed…”, eh?

  43. steelersmichele says: Nov 9, 2010 3:31 PM

    dbartdog says: Steroids and HGH has been OKed by the Rooneys for years and years.
    Really? When was the last Steelers player busted for Steroids? Or are you talking about the 70s when Steroid use was NOT BANNED by the league and used by players on every team.
    Watcher_Don says: The Steelers get a break from the refs every damn time the ball gets NEAR the end zone.
    Yep, we sure got breaks last night. 3 penalties for 50 yards near the end zone that HELPED the Bengals almost score the winning touchdown. Oh, did you mean the end zone when we’re ready to score? Maybe you should be more specific in your posts.

  44. Bdrunk says: Nov 9, 2010 3:54 PM

    Jeff W says:
    November 9, 2010 1:55 PM
    Give Troy a break. He is probably still woozy from getting destroyed on the Benson TD last night!
    —————–
    Our hairy samoan was on his feet before your hairy samoan.

  45. olskool711 says: Nov 9, 2010 3:56 PM

    “Yep, we sure got breaks last night. 3 penalties for 50 yards near the end zone that HELPED the Bengals almost score the winning touchdown. Oh, did you mean the end zone when we’re ready to score? Maybe you should be more specific in your posts.”
    The phantom hold that took away the big gain in the fourth quarter. The one that gruden responded with “that’s not a hold.” There was absolutely nothing, nothing there.
    That one.
    It turned that game last night.

  46. Watcher_Don says: Nov 9, 2010 4:00 PM

    steelermichele – I’m talking about Ward being down on the 1 yard line. I’m talking about Ben’s fumble against the Dolphins. I’m talking about Santonio’s alley oop catch while falling out of the end zone to the 1 against the Ravens. I’m talking about Ben’s QB sneak a few years ago. The Steelers get the ball anywhere NEAR the end zone, they get the benefit of the doubt.

  47. florio4prez says: Nov 9, 2010 4:08 PM

    There are many constants about the Stillers. Besides ownership, the other most visible constant is defense. And with our defense, comes viscious, hard hits, year after year.
    We don’t just want to beat you on the scoreboard, we want to beat the living crap out of you.
    All Troy is really trying to do is determine when/how it is legal to hit you. Hard. So we can. And then we will.
    I invite commentors who have mocked Troy to read the info and watch the video the League sent to teams a few weeks ago. Then tell us all if you can conclusively state what a legal and illegal hit is. (HINT: NFL players can’t. It’s therefore highly unlikely that you can either.)

  48. nevertheless says: Nov 9, 2010 4:14 PM

    probably because he got SMOKED last night. Pretty sure he probably doesn’t understand much about anything right now…. His hair is fluffy though!

  49. dbartdog says: Nov 9, 2010 4:18 PM

    Yes Michelle sweety…Steelers have cheated and your precious Harrison is using HGH. He can sue me, but then he’ll have to be tested…so I doubt he will. Rooney’s have been on board all along!

  50. footballisking says: Nov 9, 2010 4:23 PM

    After hearing Goodells interview last night it is pretty clear that Goodell doesnt even understand his own policy…Goodell is a fraud and the union better get him under control before they sign a new CBA

  51. acal83 says: Nov 9, 2010 4:26 PM

    Ive got a friendly solution for all the people complaining about the NFL going “soft”
    Watch the UFL or shut up.

  52. Just JTO says: Nov 9, 2010 4:27 PM

    Wow. I can see tyhat jealous remains alive and well on this site. So much hate and venom for the best, most proud franchise in the league.
    Shame. LOL.
    To quote many of you tools: “Stay classy, haters. Stay classy.”

  53. jpyetman says: Nov 9, 2010 4:28 PM

    “I can’t define pornography, but I know it when I see it.”
    -United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart
    For all you wannabe lawyers crying about “I dont understand what is illegal”

  54. fatalist says: Nov 9, 2010 4:31 PM

    “Give Troy a break. He is probably still woozy from getting destroyed on the Benson TD last night!”
    One of the best hits I have seen.

  55. troll_aikman8 says: Nov 9, 2010 4:34 PM

    This could be post-concussion effects. Someone should ask Troy where he is, and what his name is before delving into complex subjects. He got blow’d up.

  56. ForrestGump says: Nov 9, 2010 4:34 PM

    # dbartdog says: November 9, 2010 2:34 PM
    LOL, Troy is just covering up for that Cheating HGH user James Harrison…in fact he’s trying to cover for the cheatingest organization in all of sports…the Steelers. ”
    You HAVE to be Patsies*** fan…

  57. Wrap2tyt says: Nov 9, 2010 4:35 PM

    If I were Troy, I’d be trying to get that “MONSTER” that ran over him last night fined AND suspended!

  58. mborz says: Nov 9, 2010 4:43 PM

    Watcher_Don said: The Steelers get the ball anywhere NEAR the end zone, they get the benefit of the doubt.

  59. Bdrunk says: Nov 9, 2010 4:44 PM

    jamaltimore says:
    November 9, 2010 2:57 PM
    I loved seeing the long hair getting pancaked last night at the goal line. Chucky called it out but naturally the network would not want to make the big bad OVERATED rapist led steelers and their shampoo salesman look bad as he was smashed into the ground by a cincy lineman. No replay.
    ——————–
    Not sure what you’re talking about, I saw it aleast twice before the commercial break.

  60. HarrisonHits says: Nov 9, 2010 4:53 PM

    He obviously doesn’t read PFT because he was just on NFLN live and continued making the claim that the one issuing the fine is the one reviewing it.
    Unfortunately the NFLN’s reporter, a blond woman whose name I do not know, also does not know the proper procedure and just basically nodded and agreed with Polomalu.

  61. Deb says: Nov 9, 2010 4:58 PM

    With all due respect, Florio, you’re full of it! You actually think this is a grand scheme by the Steelers to keep the league from fining our players? ROFL Oh my and it’s working so well, too!
    Harrison was fined for a LEGAL hit on Brees. Late? Okay, if you insist. I won’t argue with the flag. But he no more deliberately speared Drew Brees with a helmet than I did–and I’ve never met Drew Brees and don’t own a helmet!
    My guess is that most players don’t know what the heck is going on because neither the NFLPA nor the League bothers communicating with them. Goodell has proved himself to be a pitiful communicator, from a corporate perspective. I doubt the NFLPA is any better. Neither group really wants the players to interact with them in any kind of full participation. Both just want the players to do as they’re told. And so you have near constant misunderstandings and miscommunication. Troy is being vocal because it’s been affecting his team and teammate. But I’m sure he’s not the only NFL player to be confused by the system.

  62. joe hvw says: Nov 9, 2010 5:16 PM

    Narcissisticprofootballconspiracies.com

  63. steelersmichele says: Nov 9, 2010 5:32 PM

    dbartdog says: Yes Michelle sweety…Steelers have cheated and your precious Harrison is using HGH.
    It’s Michele with one “L” and I love the sweety part :)
    I guess if we’ve cheated Goodell destroyed the tapes…and Harrison, well, considering he’s got a bulls-eye on his back, I’m sure the league has slipped him a drug-testing letter a few times this season. Goodell probably threw away those results, too.

  64. Rhode Island Patriots Fan says: Nov 9, 2010 5:33 PM

    Sounds to me like the players union sold its members short on this critical issue.
    I would instead envision a disciplinary panel composed of five members, including a league official and former giants of the game like “Iron Mike” Ditka and Ronnie Lott. There should also be a three-member appellate panel with the likes of former NFL VP of Officiating Mike Pereira.
    Active NFL players should not be part of the adjudication process because of the perception of conflict-of-interest.

  65. realitypolice says: Nov 9, 2010 7:15 PM

    Let me clear the rule up for you, Troy:
    The hits your team specializes in, where you wait until recievers are up in the air and defenseless, or already being held up by another defender giving you a clear shot at their head, are ILLEGAL.
    Hits where a lineman playing fullback shoots through a hole at the goal line and lights you up like a christmas tree, literally snapping your entire torsoe backward are LEGAL.
    And hilarious.

  66. realitypolice says: Nov 9, 2010 7:22 PM

    boblavoie says:
    November 9, 2010 2:06 PM
    If Troy doesn’t understand the fine process how can anyone expect the millions of fans watching this nonsence to understand it??
    Another thing, how do you control these trained FOOTBALL PLAYERS who are going 100 miles per hour to slam on the brakes? Better have a good judge and jury!
    ==========================
    At least 150 players started on defense in the NFL Sunday. Probably 200 played at some point.
    1, that’s o-n-e, got fined. So I guess most of the defenders in the league have it figured out just fine.

  67. Little Tommy says: Nov 9, 2010 7:55 PM

    Who the hell can understand anything the No Fun League is doing these days???

  68. florio4prez says: Nov 9, 2010 9:41 PM

    Watcher_Don said: The Steelers get the ball anywhere NEAR the end zone, they get the benefit of the doubt.
    If that were true, then why do we only have 16 TDs through 8 games? Refs must be slippin’.

  69. Deb says: Nov 9, 2010 9:47 PM

    realitypolice,
    Notice that the 1, that’s o-n-e, player fined this weekend did not play for the Steelers. So by your logic that would mean the Steelers all have it figured out just fine, too … except they’re saying they don’t. And who can blame them when the still photos show Harrison was fined for a LEGAL hit on Brees (not arguing the lateness, only deliberate helmet contact). The NFL Commissioner went on television last night and informed fans that if a defender is going full speed toward a receiver and the receiver ducks his head at the last possible second, causing a collision the defender could not possibly have anticipated, it’s the DEFENDER’S fault.
    REALITYpolice? Come on. Neither the fine for a legal hit, nor Goodell’s idiot logic would make sense to you if it were being applied to a team other than the Steelers.

  70. Tobias Jodter says: Nov 9, 2010 10:04 PM

    At least 150 players started on defense in the NFL Sunday. Probably 200 played at some point.
    1, that’s o-n-e, got fined. So I guess most of the defenders in the league have it figured out just fine.
    ——————————
    ——————————
    That is a classic non sequitur. The point is there were plenty of plays discussed in numerous threads about why certain plays did not result in fines. There is a lot of inconsistency in what results in a fine and what does not. Because it’s a judgment call.
    And Goodell’s interview last night was pathetic – he clearly had no clue what he was talking about.
    And regarding the “video” showing legal and non-legal hits – it was a montage of hits the media had been highlighting in recent weeks. Some of which were ambiguous as to whether the hit was really “illegal”. What kind of guidance is that?

  71. Harrisonheld16 says: Nov 9, 2010 10:05 PM

    Once again Florio has no idea what football is, Troy has his fact straight it is you that needs some researching…. moron

  72. Harrisonheld16 says: Nov 9, 2010 10:19 PM

    realitypolice
    Just to inform the uninformed, that guy Deko has like 60 or 70 pounds on Troy. Pretty easy to do that when your huge. And so your telling me you have to wait for the receiver to catch the ball, land then take a couple of steps before being hitting them? Teams will have 100% on 3rd down conversions…… if that’s the case. There is no such thing as a defenseless receiver, if he want to defend himself he has to drop the ball or attempt to catch it and get hit HARD!

  73. Harrisonheld16 says: Nov 9, 2010 10:32 PM

    hey ForrestDump Harrison is defiantly cheating when they league tests for the stuff all the time and do I recall the pats cheating? hmmm I think I do.

  74. Harrisonheld16 says: Nov 9, 2010 10:33 PM

    Ositadiablo
    he never said that… check your facts moron

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