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PFT’s Week 10 picks

After lucking my way into an entirely unlikely 11-2 slate of picks last week (thanks, Bills and Patriots, for keeping me from perfection), I know it’s time for a correction.

The better news is that I’ve finally cut two games into Rosenthal’s lead on the season, and even if there’s a correction this week I’m hoping to take a few more chops at the beanstalk.

Rosenthal was 9-4 in Week Nine, and for the season he’s at 87-43.  I’m now making my move at 84-46.  And we both now own the entire ESPN crowdRavens at Falcons

Florio’s take:  NFL Network gets a great one to launch the 2010 Thursday night slate.  Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco, first-round quarterback in 2008, lead teams with respective 6-2 records.  Despite the identical won-loss performance, the Ravens have done it the hard way, against the likes of the Jets, Steelers, and Dolphins.  The Falcons have lost to the Steelers and Eagles, and they barely beat the slightly-above-average Saints and Buccaneers.  The Ravens are the better team, and they get a chance to prove it in prime time — even though the Ravens have struggled in domes and the Falcons have been stellar at home.

Florio’s pick:  Ravens 20, Falcons 17.

Rosenthal’s take: There isn’t a lot separating these two teams.  The young quarterbacks are a draw.  Atlanta’s running game is superior, but Ray Rice is starting to come around.  The Falcons are susceptible through the air on defense, while the Ravens are surprisingly mediocre defending the run. With everything so equal, I’ll take the home team on a short week.

Rosenthal’s pick: Falcons 22, Ravens 21.

Lions at Bills

Florio’s take:  The 0-8 Bills have remained competitive, losing the last three game by only a field goal each — and pushing the Ravens and Chiefs to overtime on their own turf.  Look for the Lions to have a let down after blowing a shot at beating the Jets, and after losing Matthew Stafford.  Again.  Finally, the Bills get it done.

Florio’s pick:  Bills 27, Lions 20.

Rosenthal’s take:  Is this the Bills’ Super Bowl?  It’s certainly the last game they will be favored in and their best chance for a win.  This has to be one of the few times in NFL history an 0-8 team has been the favorite.  Shaun Hill is at quarterback for the Lions, but they didn’t play much worse with him last time around.  This is one “upset” pick I hope is wrong because Buffalo deserves better.

Rosenthal’s pick: Lions 20, Bills 17.

Vikings at Bears

Florio’s take:  The Vikings are better than their 3-5 record would indicate.  The Bears are worse than 5-3.  And the Vikings need to continue the momentum they discovered late in Week Nine.  Look for Minnesota to win their first road game in more than a year.

Florio’s pick:  Vikings 28, Bears 17.

Rosenthal’s take:  Lovie Smith says it sometimes feels like his team is 2-6 rather than 5-3.  They certainly look like a 2-6 offense.  The Vikings, on the other hand, deserve their 3-5 record.  Last week’s overtime win represents false hope for Minnesota – Arizona is really bad.  Luckily for the Vikings, Chicago is pretty dreadful too.

Rosenthal’s pick: Vikings 19, Bears 17.

Jets at Browns

Florio’s take:  I wanted to take the Browns against the Saints, and I didn’t.  I wanted to take the Browns against the Patriots, and I didn’t.  I want to take the Browns against the Jets.  And I will.  Though they may have found their groove a bit too late, look for the Browns to make it three in a row.

Florio’s pick:  Browns 24, Jets 23.

Rosenthal’s take:  The Browns have won with gadget plays, special teams, and perhaps the best offensive line football.  They build quick leads that allowed them to limit quarterback Colt McCoy’s exposure.  He hasn’t had to go vertical or throw much at all except in advantageous situations.  The Browns can shut down the Jets’ rushing attack, so Mark Sanchez will be the difference here.  That’s weird to write.

Rosenthal’s pick: Jets 20, Browns 17.

Bengals at Colts

Florio’s take:  The Bengals are playing great.  Once they fall behind by 20 points.  Look for them to be playing great on Sunday in Indianapolis.

Florio’s pick:  Colts 34, Bengals 20.

Rosenthal’s take: I watched most of The T.Ocho Show on Tuesday night.  Florio should hand out combat pay for that.  During the show Chad Ochocinco called the Bengals the “laughingstocks” of the league and admitted he didn’t think the team could recover from their 2-6 hole.  I won’t disagree.

Rosenthal’s pick: Colts 31, Bengals 21.

Texans at Jaguars

Florio’s take:  The loser of this game can kiss the playoffs goodbye.  The winner of this game can kiss the playoffs goodbye in a couple of weeks.  Assuming the “good” version of David Garrard shows up, I’ll give the home team the edge.

Florio’s pick:  Jaguars 28, Texans 21.

Rosenthal’s take:  It’s the AFC South championship to determine the worst secondary in football.  The pass defense for the Texans and Jaguars will ultimately keep both teams out of the playoffs.  With that out of the way, I’ll still take Matt Schaub and Andre Johnson over David Garrard and Mike Sims-Walker in a game that should make fantasy football owners smile.

Rosenthal’s pick: Texans 33, Jaguars 28.

Titans at Dolphins

Florio’s take:  The Dolphins have yet to win a game at home this year.  The Titans have had two weeks to get ready, and they have a legitimate deep threat for the first time since . . . since . . . well, since Kenny Britt popped a hamstring.  With Chad Henne benched and Chad Pennington dusted off and thrust into the starting lineup, the Dolphins’ wait to win at home could continue, at least until Thursday night, when the Bears come to town.

Florio’s pick:  Titans 30, Dolphins 21.

Rosenthal’s take: The game could turn into Chad Pennington vs. Kerry Collins, a rematch of two New York quarterbacks that faced off in 2003.  Collins won that game in overtime, and he should win again because his defense is more trustworthy.  The Dolphins are hungry for a win, but the Titans are also coming off a tough loss and a bye week.

Rosenthal’s pick: Titans 24, Dolphins 21.

Panthers at Buccaneers

Florio’s take:  The Bucs have been winning the games they’re supposed to win.  The Panthers have been losing the games they’re supposed to lose.  It adds up to a long afternoon in Tampa for Jimmy Clausen and company.

Florio’s pick:  Buccaneers 31, Panthers 13.

Rosenthal’s take:  The Bucs’ schedule should keep them right in the playoff mix to the very end.  They have Carolina this week, then Seattle and Detroit at home in December.  You can move the ball on Tampa’s defense, but not with Jimmy Clausen at quarterback and Mike Goodson at running back.  It’s insane the Panthers still have eight more games to play.

Rosenthal’s pick: Bucs 23, Panthers 10.

Chiefs at Broncos

Florio’s take:  The Broncos are falling apart, and the Chiefs are holding together.  Sure, Kansas City snatched defeat from the jaws of victory at Oakland, but the Chiefs have more talent and they have been able to beat the teams they should beat.  The Mile High advantage continues its disintegration toward a molehill.

Florio’s pick:  Chiefs 24, Broncos 10.

Rosenthal’s take:  The Broncos are healthier, coming off a bye week, and playing at home against a division rival.  That should mean Denver gives great effort.  Unfortunately for the Broncos, they still manage to lose home games where they play well (Colts, Jets), partly because they are so easy to run against.

Rosenthal’s pick: Chiefs 26, Broncos 24.

Seahawks at Cardinals

Florio’s take:  It’s the toss-up game of the week, between two teams who could make their fans want to toss their cookies.  The Seahawks, who have been outscored 74-10 over the past two weeks, expect to see quarterback Matt Hasselbeck return to the field.  The Cardinals could use anyone but the quarterbacks they have.  I’ll lean toward the home team on this one.

Florio’s pick:  Cardinals 24, Seahawks 17.

Rosenthal’s take: The Cardinals have five home games left.  They face their three division rivals and also host the Broncos and Panthers.  You couldn’t create a more favorable schedule to win the division at 7-9.  The march towards a sub-.500 playoff team in the NFC West starts Sunday!

Rosenthal’s pick: Cardinals 23, Seahawks 17.

Cowboys at Giants

Florio’s take:  Jason Garrett was a big part of the problem in Dallas, and he can’t turn around a train wreck in only a week.  Though the Giants are dealing with injuries along their offensive line, they’ve currently got the horses to extend their recent mastery of the Cowboys.

Florio’s pick:  Giants 31, Cowboys 10.

Rosenthal’s take:  Jason Garrett read the Cowboys the riot act at his first team meeting, and then had the Cowboys practice in full pads on Wednesday.  Dez Bryant described a more “intense” attitude in Valley Ranch.  That all makes for good copy, but it’s not going to make the Cowboys offensive line younger or less sloppy.  They’d lose this one even if they tried their hardest.

Rosenthal’s pick: Giants 31, Cowboys 13.

Rams at 49ers

Florio’s take:  Another NFC West toss-up game.  Both teams have had two weeks to get ready, and the 49ers have shown some spark with Troy Smith at quarterback.  Given the Rams’ struggles away from St. Louis, look for the Niners to continue to climb back to relevance in the most irrelevant division in the NFL.

Florio’s pick:  49ers 17, Rams 13.

Rosenthal’s take:  Both teams return from a bye week hoping to have fixed what ails them.  The Rams need to prove they can win on the road and throw the ball vertically.  The 49ers want to prove they can win back-to-back games and that Troy Smith could be an answer at quarterback.  It’s appropriate that the four NFC West teams could be separated by one game by Sunday night.

Rosenthal’s pick: 49ers 19, Rams 14.

Patriots at Steelers

Florio’s take:  The Steelers and Patriots have played four times at Heinz Field, twice in the playoffs.  And the Patriots have won three times.  Twice in the playoffs.  The only victory for the Steelers came in 2004, when the Patriots were riding a record 21-game winning streak.  With injuries on the Pittsburgh offensive line and a bruised ego for Bill Belichick and Tom Brady after Sunday’s 20-point loss to the Browns, look for that victory to remain the only one for the Steelers.

Florio’s pick:  Patriots 24, Steelers 21.

Rosenthal’s take:  The Patriots are catching the Steelers at the right time.  Pittsburgh has to play on a short week after a hard-hitting game in Cincinnati left the team bruised and battered.  The Steelers are catching the Patriots at the wrong time; New England has consistently responded well to losses in the Bill Belichick era.  The Steelers are still a better team.

Rosenthal’s pick:  Steelers 28, Patriots 27.

Eagles at Redskins

Florio’s take:  From a national perspective, the McNabb-Shanahans feud simmered in the background last week, as a result of the Cowboys debacle and the Childress mutiny.  This week, with the slate of games being capped by a Monday nighter between the Redskins and McNabb’s former team, all eyes will be on D.C.  And if McNabb gets benched again, this instantly will become the biggest story in the league.  And it could get very interesting.  Look for Mike Vick to settle last month’s score with his former teammate.

Florio’s pick:  Eagles 27, Redskins 21.

Rosenthal’s take:  The Eagles’ defense has quietly improved throughout the season.  Washington’s offense has consistently looked like a mess, especially on the offensive line.  Mike Shanahan’s mental games with Donovan McNabb can’t cover up a lack of cohesion in Washington.  This is a swing game for both teams.  The Redskins season is about to swing drastically south.

Rosenthal’s pick: Eagles 31, Redskins 17.

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29 Responses to “PFT’s Week 10 picks”
  1. everybodygotaids says: Nov 11, 2010 11:56 AM

    The Patriots are catching the Steelers at the right time. Pittsburgh has to play on a short week after a hard-hitting game in Cincinnati left the team bruised and battered. The Steelers are catching the Patriots at the wrong time; New England has consistently responded well to losses in the Bill Belichick era. The Steelers are still a better team.
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    What? What portion of their team is better? The defense? Sure, parts. The offense? Garbage. They still have Rapey McGee at QB, no O-Line and their best receiver is a 100-year old cheap shot artist, that the best anyone can say about him is that he “blocks downfield”.

    “Best downfield blocking WR who is part Asian in NFL HISTORY!!!!!!!!1111oneoneone”

  2. alansaysyo says: Nov 11, 2010 12:02 PM

    You guys should stop predicting that the Dolphins will score multiple touchdowns. Unless Rosenthal is predicting seven field goals for Miami, in which case, well played sir.

  3. stevemcguigan says: Nov 11, 2010 12:10 PM

    What? What portion of their team is better? The defense? Sure, parts. The offense? Garbage. They still have Rapey McGee at QB, no O-Line and their best receiver is a 100-year old cheap shot artist, that the best anyone can say about him is that he “blocks downfield”.

    “Best downfield blocking WR who is part Asian in NFL HISTORY!!!!!!!!1111oneoneone”

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    Someone in the Top 100 thread called Hines Ward “The best all-around WR in NFL history.”

    Makes me wonder how anyone can expect to have their opinion taken seriously about anything.

  4. cscfriarbob says: Nov 11, 2010 12:11 PM

    I’m going to have to hope Florio keeps catching up to Rosenthal I guess. On the three games I care most about he picked the team I want to see win and Rosenthal didn’t.

  5. Erik says: Nov 11, 2010 12:11 PM

    Putting your faith in Sanchez…good luck with that.

  6. puddinpouch says: Nov 11, 2010 12:12 PM

    This is an extremely difficult week to predict. The only gimmees I see are the Bucs and Giants, most likely the Titans.

    The rest are neck-and-neck down the board.

  7. xtb3 says: Nov 11, 2010 12:13 PM

    bills qb stinks. lost them last game to bad chi team because he refused to just run out the clock with a late lead – no he had to lob up a jump ball to not only stop the clock if incomplete but gave the bears a great chance to catch it with those 2 dbs covering his one receiver. a real genius and a genius coach too both probably the lowest paid at their jobs on any team. shaun hill has moved the lions just fine and for that matter so did stanton against the giants when the lions nearly pulled it out. that long lions ROAD losing streak ENDS on Sunday in buffalo.

  8. metalhead65 says: Nov 11, 2010 12:25 PM

    wow just wow is all I can say. the vikings are better than their record? really?you ride them after after every loss and detail what they must do to be the team everyone predicted but because they are playing the bears they are better than their record?I know the bears have disapointed you so far since they do have a WINNING record but the fact is you don’t get any thing extra for style, the only thing that matters is wins and so far they have more of them than your hero lord favre and until they have more w’s than l’s the bears are the better team!

  9. stiller43 says: Nov 11, 2010 12:25 PM

    everybodygotaids says: Nov 11, 2010 11:56 AM

    What? What portion of their team is better? The defense? Sure, parts. The offense? Garbage. They still have Rapey McGee at QB, no O-Line and their best receiver is a 100-year old cheap shot artist, that the best anyone can say about him is that he “blocks downfield”.

    “Best downfield blocking WR who is part Asian in NFL HISTORY!!!!!!!!1111oneoneone”

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    So our D is 4th in the league compared to your 29th ranked D, and all you can say is, “sure, parts of the D are better.” That’s nice..

    And let’s see, would you rather have Green-Ellis or Mendenhall? Heath Miller or one of your rookies?

    I’ll take the Steelers RB and TE. I’ll also take Mike Wallace, who’s on pace for over 1000 yards and 10 TDs in only his 2nd season, over Tate. I’d say Ward and Welker are a wash…with an edge to Welker for age, but Ward is so invaluable in the running game and in mentoring the plethora of young WRs we have.

    I’d rather have the Pats line (minus center) and would rather have Tom for the next year or two, but uhh yeah, I’d say THOSE portions of our team are better.

  10. ripatriotsfan says: Nov 11, 2010 12:29 PM

    If the Patriots defense could effectively set the edge against the run and pressure “Big Ben,” who seems to have blitz recognition issues, and if the Patriots offense offered a credible deep threat (e.g., Randy Moss, or Deion Branch circa 2004) to spread the field against Polamalu & Co., then I would say clear edge to Patriots—even at “Hines Ward” Field. Regrettably, I don’t see any of those things happening on Sunday. :(

    Prediction: Steelers 27, Patriots 17

  11. holeinone09 says: Nov 11, 2010 12:34 PM

    Hey everybodygotaids, please tell the rest of the readers why you calling Big Ben some stupid name doesn’t make him one of the best QBs in the game today? I believe his winning record is second best among all active QBs except for Brady, whose record speaks for itself.

    And you making similar stupid comments about Hines doesn’t mean he still isn’t one of the best all-around WRs in the game today. I guess you didn’t hear what the announcers were saying about him last week.

    Must have been because you had your head up your ass. Thanks for losing all your credibility with one post. No real analysis of any kind.

    I expect a great close game, as most Steeler games are, that will likely go down to late in the fourth quarter. I think it will come down to how well the Steelers can run the ball, and be able to have a balanced offensive attack that takes the blitz pressure off of Ben. Arians has to call a good game. The Pats will likely have a tough time moving the ball and a tougher time scoring points, like most have had against the Steelers this year.

    GO STEELERS!!

  12. everybodygotaids says: Nov 11, 2010 1:00 PM

    And you making similar stupid comments about Hines doesn’t mean he still isn’t one of the best all-around WRs in the game today. I guess you didn’t hear what the announcers were saying about him last week.
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    The announcers? You come back with “the announcers”? Seriously? You know who else the announcers love? Brett Freakin Favre. Guy had a REALLY good stretch in the mid-90s and has been riding that ever since. He hasn’t had back to back good (or even decent) seasons since ’04.

    Hey everybodygotaids, please tell the rest of the readers why you calling Big Ben some stupid name doesn’t make him one of the best QBs in the game today? I believe his winning record is second best among all active QBs except for Brady, whose record speaks for itself.
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    Have you ever watched him play? He’s a big moose who is hard to bring down. I’ll give him that. He’s creative. I’ll give him that. You know what they say about quarterbacks receiving too much of the blame and too much of the credit? That statement defines Roethlisberger when people bring up his winning %. Since he came into the league, you know what his defenses have ranked? 1, 3, 11, 2, 1, 12, 1. The years they were 11th in the league and 12th in the league? 9-7, no playoffs. 8-8, no playoffs.

  13. everybodygotaids says: Nov 11, 2010 1:08 PM

    Roethlisberger has also had the most awful superbowl performance by a winning QB of all time (if I’m not mistaken). Without the refs, he’d be a guy who’s 1-1 in Superbowls (or 0-2, depending on how far you want to take it) and you wouldn’t be putting him up on his pedestal. You know what Ben Roethlisberger has led the league in? Interceptions. 2006. #1 in the league. Other than that? Nothing. Ever. He’s been in the top 10 in TDs twice. Top 10 in yards twice. Top 10 in interceptions twice (including his league leading year). Impressive.

    It’s hard to call a guy one of the best in the league when he hasn’t…you know, played like one of the best in the league.

  14. holeinone09 says: Nov 11, 2010 1:32 PM

    Hey aids, if you honestly don’t think that Hines is still a very quality all-round receiver, then you don’t have any football brains. Period. How many Steeler games have you ever watched? When I mentioned the announcers, I would suggest they are more intelligent about football than you also.

    And your comments about Ben merely show you don’t like him. That’s fine, you can’t be honest about his overall skills and RESULTS WITH WINNING GAMES. Isn’t the bottom line winning? That was what my comment was about. The Steelers have benefited from great defenses of course, but Ben doesn’t have to apologize for that, or take any criticism for his play because of that. You also don’t mention any other facts like injuries, lack of big running game, etc. Overall, as I have watched Ben in EVERY GAME he has played in, he has done a great job overall. So I don’t agree with you.

    And please don’t whine about the refs in the Super Bowl, that really makes you look stupid. And don’t you think Ben led a pretty good comeback against the Cardinals as time was running out and threw the awesome pass to Holmes that won the game? Nah, I guess you wouldn’t mention that FACT.

    But, you are entitled to your opinion. We will see how the game this Sunday, and Ben’s and Hines’ overall careers go. I will bet on them any day.

    GO STEELERS!!

  15. cynicalvision says: Nov 11, 2010 2:28 PM

    5’11 Troy Smith is going to have a hard time throwing from the pocket with the pass rush the Rams have generating recently.

  16. everybodygotaids says: Nov 11, 2010 3:09 PM

    And your comments about Ben merely show you don’t like him. That’s fine, you can’t be honest about his overall skills and RESULTS WITH WINNING GAMES. Isn’t the bottom line winning? That was what my comment was about. The Steelers have benefited from great defenses of course, but Ben doesn’t have to apologize for that, or take any criticism for his play because of that. You also don’t mention any other facts like injuries, lack of big running game, etc. Overall, as I have watched Ben in EVERY GAME he has played in, he has done a great job overall. So I don’t agree with you.
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    You’re right. He’s done enough to get by…but doing enough to get by does not make a guy a top QB in the league. It just doesn’t. I’m not saying he’s a bad player. I’m not saying he doesn’t do some things well, and hasn’t had some great plays over the years….but he just isn’t a top guy no matter how much you want to believe that.

    I will give you credit for not bringing “passer rating” into the equation. It shows you at least understand what a garbage stat that is. In his first 5 years as a starter, he threw for over 300 yards 7 times. He was 3-4 in those games. Most of his big games were games where he wasn’t asked to do much. Take a look at 2007. Vs Balt, he throws for 5 TDs and an 81.3% completion percentage. Amazing…until you realize he only threw the ball 16 times and was playing with a short field due to 4 Ravens turnovers. Or the same year, he threw for 4 TDs with no picks vs the Browns. Cleveland had 5 turnovers that game. He has a lot of opportunities because his defense gets him the ball back. That’s not his fault. Yes, he was able to capitalize on those turnovers and make them into points…but let’s not go out and say he’s a great QB. He also averages about 28 passes/game. Now, maybe if he was asked to do more, he could. I don’t know. I wouldn’t bank on it, but I don’t know. I’m just saying that based on his body of work, and the eyeball test, he’s not an upper-tier QB.

  17. joetoronto says: Nov 11, 2010 5:24 PM

    How about you two show some balls and pick ATS.

  18. rdnugent says: Nov 11, 2010 8:02 PM

    Before I say what I’m going to say, let me preface it with this: I’m a born and raised, die-hard Steelers fan. Always have been, always will be.

    But I am NO Big Ben fan.

    Aside from all the shenanigans he’s gotten himself into off the field, I don’t believe that he is a grounded, consistent quarterback. I think our team played more like the old-style Steel Curtain when Charlie Batch was in. No, we didn’t have all the fancy footwork of Ben, but what we did have was consistency and what Steeler football used to be.

    Ben is a great tool to have when you’re in an 11th hour pinch or when an amazing trick play needs to happen, but he just doesn’t have the fundamental rudimentaries. Consistently, he’s sloppy at best. There needs to be a point in time where his answer after every game ISN’T, “Well, it wasn’t pretty, but we got it done.”

    Go STEELERS!

  19. Deb says: Nov 11, 2010 9:39 PM

    Not sure what’s funnier: the fact that everybodygotaids is still obsessing over Ben Roethlisberger or the fact that he can’t figure out how to get spaces and caps into his WordPress screen name LOL

  20. adambarbeau says: Nov 12, 2010 9:48 AM

    OK guys, I like reading PFT, and up until now I haven’t felt the need to actually join and post anything, but this needs to be addressed:

    You HAVE to do something to differentiate the bolded prediction text from the bolded teams text. They are currently both bolded black and it’s giving me a headache to scroll down and tell which is which, and to find the teams/predictions that I want to see.

    Please fix. Other than that…good job!

  21. deweyactswooned says: Nov 12, 2010 12:11 PM

    For the record, I hate both you guys–GYF.

    But keep saying how bad the Bears are, and keep picking against them, because it only makes their wins all the sweeter for their fans, while making you two suck-tards look all that much more buffoonish.

    I love how sports journalists make all their pre-season predictions, which they’re SO sure about, and then, when they become (inevitably) wrong, how hard they scramble and how much they coninute to fight, finagle, manipulate, spin, and justify to minimze exactly HOW wrong they were to begin with.

    Plus, you two Brokeback boys are ignoring history, plain & simple:

    Minny hasn’t won away from home since beating Green Bay on Nov. 1, 2009. The Queens have also dropped eight of their last nine visits to Chicago (last win in 2007, 34-31 in OT).

    AND, let’s not forget Peppers’ special history of making McKinnie sit down to pee like a girl. Repeatedly.

    I’m not saying Chicago’s a lock, but I’m saying you two are dolts for acting like its going to be a lock the other way.

    Ultimately, I’m torn–as cool as it would be to have the Bears be the team that finally drives the stake through Childo’s heart (along with being the team to rob the Queefs of their homefield in the playoffs last year), the other part of me doesn’t want Chilly to go.

    For entertainment value and raw suckitude, he has no equal.

    (Though you guys come close).

  22. steelers24019 says: Nov 12, 2010 12:36 PM

    everybodygotaids

    It’s hard to call a guy one of the best in the league when he hasn’t…you know, played like one of the best in the league.
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    Roethlisberger stats:

    8th all time best passer rating
    5th all time yards per attempt
    9th all time completion % (1,500 min. attempts)
    4th all time best winning %

  23. steelers24019 says: Nov 12, 2010 12:43 PM

    rdnugent:

    You gotta love Charlie Batch but if you think the Steelers would be a better team with Batch at QB, then it’s good you have a day job because your ability to assess football talent is lacking. SORRY!

    GO STEELERS!

  24. japdouds says: Nov 12, 2010 1:26 PM

    #
    everybodygotaids says: Nov 11, 2010 1:08 PM

    ================================
    Appropriate name for a total moron.

    As stated above Roethlisberger is Top 10 in the HISTORY of the NFL, not just today in QB Rating, YA, Completion %, and win %.

    Sure he played like a 23 year old kid in his first SB, but in order to get to that game he had to win 3 road playoff games where he posted a combined 120 QB rating with 7 TDs vs 1 INT. So, uhh yes, he is elite and has played that way. If you take his stats from his first 6 years in the NFL vs Tom Brady, Ben has more yards, TD’s, and a better YPA, completion %, and QB Rating.

    So who sucks, an elite QB like Ben, or your dumb ass?

  25. rdnugent says: Nov 12, 2010 4:46 PM

    steelers24019:

    Sure, Ben can do some impressive things, and I’m not saying he doesn’t possess a lot of talent. But you can have all the talent in the world and not be disciplined in how you perform. Again- Ben is very sloppy and he lacks consistency.

  26. Deb says: Nov 12, 2010 5:21 PM

    @steelers24019 and rdnugent …

    I agree with both of you. The data steelers24019 posted doesn’t lie–neither do two Super Bowl rings. Roethlisberger has tremendous natural talent and is one of the five or six best QBs in the league. No comparison between him and Charlie Batch (though I love Charlie), and any mention of Dennis Dixon in the same breath is laughable. I’ve been a Steelers fan since I was a kid and went through those 26 years sans championship. No doubt in my mind that Ben provided the missing link. He has that indefinable something that’s given him magic when it was needed.

    But …

    Through the years I’ve wanted to ring his neck. He’s extremely undisciplined and has a terrible work ethic. He’s been known for being last to arrive, first to leave, doesn’t like to watch film. Plus he’s really stubborn about listening to coaches. Thinks if “by the skin of your teeth” works once, then the team should “go with it.” Huh? Dumb luck isn’t a strategy. Chance favors those who are prepared.

    As he gets older, slower, and more beat up, those miracle moves won’t be there. That’s when great players fall back on what they have in their heads. My understanding is that he’s made significant behavioral changes since this summer. With the natural talent he has, if he starts really working at it, he could become a Hall of Fame QB. And with that defense, he definitely could win a couple more championships before he’s through. Let’s hope the stories of his turnaround are true.

  27. steelersandyankees says: Nov 14, 2010 9:54 AM

    Pat fans just shutup and get over yourself. You haven’t won the Bowl in 6 years while the Steelers have won 2. Big Ben has more 4th comeback in the NFL since he entered the league. Your almost dynasty is built on lie, with the alleged Tuck which we know was a fumble. Your coach is a scumbag and cheater. Belicheat and spygate must have been bad if the NFL destroyed all the tapes.

    I will be objective unlike you elitist Pat jerks, Steelers O-line is a mess, Brady is great, and Belicheat is a good coach, so I do think the Pats have a chance. Special teams will be key and the Pats need to pin the Steelers because the Pats D is not good enough to give the Steelers a short field. If its close in the 4th, I like the Pats chances because the Steelers since last year have given up a lot of passing yards in the 4th quarter.

  28. starderup says: Nov 14, 2010 10:22 AM

    Shouldn’t have picked against the Falcons at home, Florio!

  29. steelersandyankees says: Nov 14, 2010 12:34 PM

    Big Ben is 8-2 in th playoffs with 2 rings, 60-26 regular season. He arguably had the greatest 2 minute drive in a SB against the Cardinals. He has more 4th quarter comebacks then anyone since he entered the league. I will take Brady over Ben but you can have Peyton’s 9-9 playoff record and take Peyton, I will take Ben over the great Peyton and based on age I would take Ben over Brady right now. If Cowher had Ben when he started coaching the Steelers would have won more then Brady’s three!!! And you Pat fans better pray Ben don’t win it this year because it will be 3-3 for rings without the cheating and spygate. HAHAHAHA, Pat fans take that and shove it up your elitist arssse!

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