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Bill Belichick explains which stats he likes

A year ago, Patriots coach Bill Belichick was asked to explain the decline in statistical production from Randy Moss, and he bristled at the question.

Stats are for losers,” Belichick said then. “The final score is for winners.”

Belichick no longer has to defend Moss, but he does still have some thoughts on stats. And although he’s not exactly backing down on his statement that the score is what matters, he did revise and extend his remarks about stats when asked by reporters whether the statistical numbers have any meaning.

“I think they all have meaning; it’s just the priority of the stats,” Belichick said. “Wins is number one. Points is number two, because that correlates to winning.”

Although points haven’t correlated to winning for the Detroit Lions this year, in general Belichick is right about that. And he said the other stats he looks at are all related to points.

“And then you get to the things that correlate to scoring, which [are] red area, big plays, and third down becomes a part of that because of being able to sustain drives and that type of things,” Belichick said. “But if you make big plays, then third down becomes less important. You can offset any good numbers with bad numbers. You can offset bad numbers with good numbers, but in the end, it’s about getting points on the board and keeping them off. . . . I’m not saying they’re not significant, they are, but the ones that correlate the highest to winning, you still have to consider them as the most important.”

So stats aren’t necessarily for losers. As long as the stats in question correlate to the Patriots becoming winners.

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44 Responses to “Bill Belichick explains which stats he likes”
  1. dscib says: Nov 17, 2010 10:47 AM

    Do you know what stat I like best Bill? When the Jets beat the Patriots again on Dec. 6th, they will essentially clinch the AFC East — finally!!!

  2. nyjetsholdupsbtrophyin2010 says: Nov 17, 2010 10:54 AM

    I much as I just despise him and that team ,I have feeling they drum the s–t out of Indy sunday …

  3. flash1283 says: Nov 17, 2010 10:56 AM

    So stats aren’t necessarily for losers. As long as the stats in question correlate to the Patriots becoming winners.
    ———————–

    Do we really need to dissect one statement he made in one of a thousand post game press conferences?

  4. pubobby2004 says: Nov 17, 2010 10:57 AM

    final scores ARE for winners…

    Nov. 7, 2005 – Indianapolis Colts 40-21
    Nov. 5, 2006 – Indianapolis Colts 27-20
    Jan. 21, 2007 – Indianapolis Colts 38-34
    Nov. 2, 2008 – Indianapolis Colts 18-15
    Nov. 15, 2009 – Indianapolis Colts 35-34

    good night now!

  5. ptcraddock says: Nov 17, 2010 10:58 AM

    What about the correlation between hiding in bushes with video cameras during opponent’s pre-game walk-through and winning????

    You can offset any bad numbers with blatant cheating.

  6. blackbartii says: Nov 17, 2010 11:06 AM

    Cheating is number one….

  7. pubobby2004 says: Nov 17, 2010 11:07 AM

    or by creating your own rules… see Brady rule 1 and Brady rule 2. AKA tuck and roll

  8. blackbartii says: Nov 17, 2010 11:07 AM

    dscib…..Jets suck. The lucked out a couple of times. Pats are going to bury the Jets next time.

  9. flash1283 says: Nov 17, 2010 11:10 AM

    dscib says:
    Nov 17, 2010 10:47 AM
    Do you know what stat I like best Bill? When the Jets beat the Patriots again on Dec. 6th, they will essentially clinch the AFC East — finally!!!
    ——————–

    To bad that’s not going to happen!!!

  10. all4patriots says: Nov 17, 2010 11:13 AM

    One statistic of high value is turnovers and the fact that the Patriots are 76-3 under BB when having fewer turnovers.

  11. all4patriots says: Nov 17, 2010 11:17 AM

    ptcrapdock: Taping of pregame walkthroughs never happened. That was an incident called “Liegate” that was retracted by the Boston Herald, who conveniently broke the made-up story during the week before the Super Bowl. The “source” Matt Walsh came forward and said it never happened.

  12. justonce1 says: Nov 17, 2010 11:22 AM

    pubobby2004,
    how many superbowls did the regular season wins translate into…1?, the choke artist at his best

  13. PFTiswhatitis says: Nov 17, 2010 11:25 AM

    @pubobby2004:
    If you are going to quote past scores then please show them all.

    Rivalry statistics
    Patriots wins 42 Colts wins 28
    Patriots points 1,638 Colts points 1,306

    Postseason
    Patriots Wins 2 Colts Wins 1

    good night now!

  14. JC says: Nov 17, 2010 11:32 AM

    @pubobby2004:

    True, but you did neglect to mention that the Pats (who we all know went on to lose to the Giants that year) beat the Colts 24-20 in the playoffs in 2007, or the 20-3 thumping the Pats gave the Colts in 2005 playoffs (2004 season).

  15. patriotinvasion says: Nov 17, 2010 11:38 AM

    PuBobby2004 — You conveniently left out the 2007 game in Indy – Patriots 24, Colts 20….Not to mention the 2003 AFC Championship Game and 2004 Divisional Playoff Game in which we held the Colts to a combined 17 points en route to back-to-back Super Bowl Championships. LOL…nice Super Bowl pick 6 for your boy on the biggest drive of his life last year!

    At least Brady scored a TD in the final minutes of his only Super Bowl defeat.

  16. patriotinvasion says: Nov 17, 2010 11:43 AM

    ptcraddock – I love how the Pats still haunt your dreams to the point where you take the time out of your day to post a negative statement which was proven to be untrue…including a retracted article and apology by the Boston Herald.

    Change your signals bro! HAHAHA…every team changes them…week to week, too bad your team was too dumb to switch it up, and thus got whooped by the Patriots.

    BTW – Don’t think defensive signals blocked field goals, returned punts for TD’s, caused Manning and Big Ben to throw picks, caused McNabb to puke on himself, made 45 yard field goals in a blizzard, etc, etc, etc…sorry…you and your team are LOSERS!

  17. Satan's Valet says: Nov 17, 2010 11:56 AM

    I’ve done extensive research, and it turns out the 07 Pat’s were the only team in the history of the NFL to cheat in that manner. And despite only filming signals for 1 game that season, they obviously have continued to use the information gained that day to their advantage right up to the present day. It’s obvious, sheeple.

  18. hotep999 says: Nov 17, 2010 11:58 AM

    I wonder if the iPhone has an application for when this site posts a Belichick thread, seems the same people live to say cheaters.

  19. patriotinvasion says: Nov 17, 2010 12:04 PM

    I love how all the Pats haters refresh PFT every 5 minutes in hopes for a Belichick story so they can post something about videotaping signals. LOL – The obsession with all things New England Patriots is hilarious.

    I guess if my team got destroyed by another for years I’d be bitter too, but not that bitter. But hey, maybe Big Ben wouldn’t have 2 rings if his thirst for rape wasn’t getting quenched each week…haha…

  20. boblavoie says: Nov 17, 2010 12:06 PM

    PFT: So stats aren’t necessarily for losers. As long as the stats in question correlate to the Patriots becoming winners.

    I believe what Bill is saying is that what’s important is the final score. We have all seen game where the “stats” do not correlate with the winner. A year ago, when asked about stats, it was in regard to personel stats (Moss) not team stats. There is a hierachy – but top of it all relates to who wins. “We play to win the game” not put up numbers.

  21. pukey60 says: Nov 17, 2010 12:12 PM

    Indy and Manning have owned BB and the Patriots for awhile now, that’s a fact. I think rather then not talk about stats the Patriots should concentrate on getting some heat on Manning so he makes a mistake or two.

    Manning is inside BBs head and the only way out is for NE to win one. This whole bad slide started in the AFC championship game when NE had an 18 point lead at the half and lost. Things really haven’t been right since. For my money that loss was way worse then the loss to the Giants in the SB. And that’s because NE had such a big lead and blew it. If I recall correctly in the Indy game during the second half most of the big offensive plays were right up the middle, which was totally humiliating for the Pats defense and BB.

    I think Sundays game is a coin toss at best because even as wounded as the Colts are they still can light it up.

  22. touchdownroddywhite says: Nov 17, 2010 12:37 PM

    With some of the Colts best offenses to date, they were only able to beat the Pats by double digits one time, and this isn’t even close to being a top flight Indy offense. Yeah, Pats lost to Cleveland, but Indy’s D is a decent step down from Clevelands, and the Browns run the ball much better than Indy. Look for this one to go down 31-20, Patriots.

  23. dscib says: Nov 17, 2010 12:39 PM

    @blackbartii

    I know that there was no luck involved when Jets beat Pats in week #2.

    And there was no luck involved when the Browns absolutely pounded the Pats in week #9.

    But what will be cool is if/when Pats beat the Colts this week when they host the Jets the Pats will be 5-0 at home and Jets 5-0 on the road, good stuff.

  24. patriotinvasion says: Nov 17, 2010 12:42 PM

    Yes Satan – no team has changed their signals in 3 years. The same signals in plain view to 70,000 people in the stadium every Sunday…including opposing players and coaches. Yup, you got it. Same signals…3 years in a row…LOL…idiot

  25. grogansheroes says: Nov 17, 2010 12:43 PM

    To the 2 Colts fans: How about the Colts turning up the heat and the artificial sound in the AFC championship game. How about the phantom PI calls in that game. One offensive taking away a possible 28-3 halftime lead, and one in the end zone when the Colts needed it most. How about how Polian has ruined the league by making it impossible to play defense? What a bunch of cry babies Dolts fans are. The Colts are Cheaters-cheaters-cheaters!! ha ha ha. Pats this Sunday38-13.

  26. 2mannings1cup says: Nov 17, 2010 12:44 PM

    Here is a thought, let’s all make excuses for the Colts, prior to Sunday’s beatdown. I’ll start:

    1. Wull…Wull…all of our players are hurted and couldn’t pway.
    2. Da Patwiots cheated and took thermal scans of Manning’s brain to recognize what audible he was going to call pre-snap, based on mood change.

    Nobody has owned the Patriots, so get it straight. Winning in consistantly slim fashion is not owning. It’s a great rivalry, and most games come down to the wire. Just not this game, get ready for an ass-whoopin Colt-Clones.

  27. CT Pats Fan says: Nov 17, 2010 12:47 PM

    In the Brady era, the Pats are 5-1 against the Colts in Foxboro, and 3-3 when playing in Indy (one loss was with Matt Cassel at the helm).

    I think the most interesting part about this fixture is that it’s being played in Foxboro for the first time in nearly 3 years.

  28. tiffpats4eva says: Nov 17, 2010 12:54 PM

    @pubobby2004

    Please post the Peyton Manning Super Bowl wins.

    Peyton is a great regular season QB. He sucks in the post season and throws picks in the Super Bowl.

  29. 8man says: Nov 17, 2010 12:56 PM

    pubobby2004 says:
    Nov 17, 2010 10:57 AM
    final scores ARE for winners…

    Nov. 7, 2005 – Indianapolis Colts 40-21
    Nov. 5, 2006 – Indianapolis Colts 27-20
    Jan. 21, 2007 – Indianapolis Colts 38-34
    Nov. 2, 2008 – Indianapolis Colts 18-15
    Nov. 15, 2009 – Indianapolis Colts 35-34

    good night now!
    ————————————————
    Exactly why I as soon as the Pittsburgh game ended, I turned the TV off, went to bed and thought no more about it.

    Now we’ll see how this Sunday turns out….

  30. ejtowne says: Nov 17, 2010 1:15 PM

    Does Belichick count cheating part of the stats or part of the winning… Loser.

  31. pastabelly says: Nov 17, 2010 1:21 PM

    The Colts have been the single most disappointing post season team in the NFL during the past decade. Beyond that, Belichick/Brady also own a better regular season record than the Colts the past decase. Stats are for losers. Three time SB Championships are not. One time winners with all of that talent – ugh!!!!!

  32. Satan's Valet says: Nov 17, 2010 1:52 PM

    #
    patriotinvasion says: Nov 17, 2010 12:42 PM

    Yes Satan – no team has changed their signals in 3 years. The same signals in plain view to 70,000 people in the stadium every Sunday…including opposing players and coaches. Yup, you got it. Same signals…3 years in a row…LOL…idiot

    ———————————————————–

    Come on man, I tried really hard to use extra sarcasm to avoid exactly this kind of response. I’ll let you off with a warning this time, but if it happens again I’m afraid I’m going to have to revoke your “Post Comments on the Internet” license.

  33. Satan's Valet says: Nov 17, 2010 1:57 PM

    pukey60 says: Nov 17, 2010 12:12 PM

    Manning is inside BBs head and the only way out is for NE to win one.

    ———————————————————————-

    I’m sorry, you honestly think any human being on the face of the Earth is capable of getting inside Bill Belichicks’ head? So you’ve never actually heard, read, or seen anything about him before ever, huh? Say whatever else you want about him, but “Someone Getting Inside His Head” is not high on the list of things that could actually happen. It would take a Vulcan Mind Meld to actually breach the impenetrable barrier that is the mind of Bill “My Brain is a Computer. Literally” Belichick.

    That’s right, I threw a Spock reference all up in here. WUT.

  34. blackcatnfl says: Nov 17, 2010 2:12 PM

    We are all dumber for having read that article.

  35. all4patriots says: Nov 17, 2010 2:14 PM

    “as wounded as the Colts are…”

    the team with more players on IR: Patriots
    the team with more starters on IR: Patriots
    the team with more player-games lost to injury so far this season: Patriots

    The Colts love to whine and make excuses with injuries while the Patriots plug undrafted free agents into the starting lineup and just keep on winning.

    Just because the average Joe knows who Dallas Clark and Bob Sanders are and doesn’t know who Ty Warren, Leigh Bodden, Kevin Faulk, Nick Kaczur, Srephen Gostkowski, Stephen Neal, Brandon McGowan, etc. etc. are doesn’t justify the media barrage about how the poor banged-up Colts are facing the powerful Patriots.

    Let’s hope Law Firm (B-J G-E) and Woody (Danny Woodhead) tear them up on the ground. Yeah, we will use our Firm Woody backfield.

  36. BernardPollardIsAnAss says: Nov 17, 2010 2:36 PM

    “Do you know what stat I like best Bill? When the Jets beat the Patriots again on Dec. 6th, they will essentially clinch the AFC East — finally!!!”

    Essentially? Now there is a fan speaking with confidence in his team. You know what’s coming. The same thing as last year. Another NE division championship. Keep dreaming Jets fans. Your team is crumbling before your eyes. They will lose again soon. Shut out at home? Ouch.

  37. BernardPollardIsAnAss says: Nov 17, 2010 2:38 PM

    “final scores ARE for winners…

    Nov. 7, 2005 – Indianapolis Colts 40-21
    Nov. 5, 2006 – Indianapolis Colts 27-20
    Jan. 21, 2007 – Indianapolis Colts 38-34
    Nov. 2, 2008 – Indianapolis Colts 18-15
    Nov. 15, 2009 – Indianapolis Colts 35-34

    good night now!”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So are Championships!

    2001 – Patriots
    2003 – Patriots
    2004 – Patriots

    2006 – Colts.

    Just one? Some things just don’t add up in this decade.

  38. ptcraddock says: Nov 17, 2010 2:50 PM

    ptcrapdock: Taping of pregame walkthroughs never happened. That was an incident called “Liegate” that was retracted by the Boston Herald, who conveniently broke the made-up story during the week before the Super Bowl. The “source” Matt Walsh came forward and said it never happened.

    Walsh said it never happened??? hahahahaha
    Duuuuuuuude, the Walsh met with the league and turned over video tapes that were quickly destroyed. Senator Spector demanded the tapes and the league made sure they were destroyed before Congress could see the extent of this scam. The NFL flexed their muscles to make this issue go away, but to act like they didn’t cheat is hysterical. Bill was fined $1MILLION dead serious and they were ripped of multiple draft picks. GET A CLUE! You don’t fine a coach 7 figures and take picks away for something that never happened. THEY CHEATED. FACT!!!

  39. all4patriots says: Nov 17, 2010 3:08 PM

    There were no tapes of walkthoughs, ever. They didn’t exist, and that’s a fact. You are thinking of the earlier taping of defensive signals from a disallowed location scandal called “spygate” that had nothing to do with any secret taping of practices.

    Please try to keep up.

  40. Satan's Valet says: Nov 17, 2010 3:19 PM

    Yeah, they did. But that was 3 years ago. What bearing does it have on the current season?

  41. tiffpats4eva says: Nov 17, 2010 4:48 PM

    @ptcraddock

    You are making stuff up. Belichick was not fined $1,000,000.00.

    Walsh is a proven liar and you are cherry picking what you believe based on the lies you like.

  42. bcgreg says: Nov 17, 2010 6:03 PM

    @ pukey60

    You say the “slide” started in the 2006 AFC championship game? Didn’t the Pats win the next time they played in 2007 at Indy? Then, they lost the next one in 2008, again in Indy, by 3 points with the back up QB playing. Last year was the 4th and 2 game…at Indy. Seems to me the Pats have to go to Indy all the time. And Polian STILL complains about something.

  43. castleanthrax says: Nov 17, 2010 8:15 PM

    PTcraddock is making things up now to justify that the Pats cheated. Bill was fined 250k, the Pats 500k. Much like Denver and the Niners were fined. All three had a draft pick, as a matter of fact the Donkeys had a couple taken away.

    Walsh had nothing to turn in that was the Pats who turned their tapes in. You know the ones where they were filming the Chargers Cheerleaders (who could blame them for filming that!), Herm Edwards smiling at the camera and waving, the crowds while they were on the road, etc. Sure there was some benefit there, but seriously you act as if this filming thing is the be all end all of their source of winning. If that were the case they would’ve won the SB each year from 01-06. Get over folks the Pats are legit. Now after four seasons the Colts-Pats game is in Foxboro and I will be two rows behind the Colts bench giving Forehead crap all night. What fun!

  44. patriotsw1n says: Nov 18, 2010 11:22 AM

    It is interesting the Pats have only had three defensive consitent starters for each game – Jerod Mayo, Vince Wilfork and rookie Devon McCourty!

    The rest of the defense has been changing week to week depending on injuries and who they play!

    Try to do that and have a record of 7-2!

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