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Harrison hopes Seymour pays big for hit on Roethlisberger

Richard Seymour

Steelers linebacker James Harrison knows all about the NFL’s tendency towards heavy fines this season.  He just hopes Raiders defensive lineman Richard Seymour feels the league’s wrath too after his punch to Ben Roethlisberger’s face Sunday.

“I hope he would hear from the league a lot worse than what I did,” Harrison told Alex Marvez of FoxSports.com.   “I’m playing the game within the whistles. What he did was way outside of it.”

Marvez thinks that Seymour should be suspended for next week’s game and pay a six figure fine for the hit.  Harrison agrees.

“I don’t see why not,” Harrison said. “The guy’s celebrating with his teammates and you punch him in his face.”

The argument in Seymour’s case against a suspension will be that he was already kicked out of one game.  Surely a heavy fine is coming, but the is the hit worthy of missing one and a half games?

Harrison and the Steelers, who wondered about an anti-Steeler bias Sunday, will be watching the league’s reaction closely.

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  1. myspaceyourface says: Nov 21, 2010 9:16 PM

    He can hope all he wants, but he know the league is targeting him and his team. . .

    Last week was proof enough of that.

  2. myspaceyourface says: Nov 21, 2010 9:17 PM

    3 AWFUL 15 yard penalties were proof of that today.

  3. blackglass3 says: Nov 21, 2010 9:21 PM

    NOW should offer to pay Seymour’s fine.

  4. jeffperk says: Nov 21, 2010 9:22 PM

    Quit crying Harrison!! We all know Ben deserved it, isn’t that what he said about his victims? I guess it’s not the same when Karma comes back & punches your douche QB in the face. One punch & down goes Roethlisberger. Who knew he had a glass chin?!

  5. florioisatool says: Nov 21, 2010 9:22 PM

    Does Harrison play ball or is a professional whiner? Can’t stand the Raiders but this guy is the Terrell Owens of linebackers.

  6. steelintn says: Nov 21, 2010 9:22 PM

    The argument in Seymour’s case against a suspension will be that he was already kicked out of one game. Surely a heavy fine is coming, but the is the hit worthy of missing one and a half games?

    ———————————————

    What? What are you on? Hell yeah he should be suspended. Come on, fair is fair. We all know if that was a Steeler player pulling something like that, his ass would be gone for a few games.

  7. skinnypigeon says: Nov 21, 2010 9:23 PM

    No QB in the NFL deserved it more

  8. 8man says: Nov 21, 2010 9:23 PM

    I’m not sure why this is such a big deal. I want to punch Roethlisberger in the face too.

  9. djeg07 says: Nov 21, 2010 9:23 PM

    crazy, ben started with going near him.. ben deserves it.

  10. steelers6pack says: Nov 21, 2010 9:25 PM

    Godell and his henchmen will prove they are anti-steelers and give Seymour a small fine and no suspension! This is how his horrible commish works! He has some refs in his back pocket and his disciplien is total unfair! What is the decision of Favre? I thought it was to be made weeks ago.. oh wait Godell likes Favre so it will go away!

  11. ravensrule says: Nov 21, 2010 9:26 PM

    Boo hoo Harrison. When is this guy not whining ? Anti-Steeler bias,,,HA, what about SuperBowl XL ???

  12. tdk24 says: Nov 21, 2010 9:31 PM

    I want to know what Rapethisburger said to him that made him get that mad. He reacted so fast that i bet the OL was taunting him hard leading up to the slap.

  13. peytonwantsaflag says: Nov 21, 2010 9:33 PM

    after the calls they got and they are wondering about “anti-Steeler bias”?

    ha

    oh yeah – here’s James playing the game within the whistles

    http://www.pronewsblog.com/sports/james-harrison-punching-aaron-francisco/

  14. ilovefoolsball says: Nov 21, 2010 9:33 PM

    #
    skinnypigeon says: Nov 21, 2010 9:23 PM

    No QB in the NFL deserved it more
    —–

    +1

  15. smalltownqb says: Nov 21, 2010 9:35 PM

    Where is the video?

  16. keegax says: Nov 21, 2010 9:36 PM

    Seems all the Steelers do these days is whine or complain about fines. Seriously, I have never heard so much crying from one team.

  17. steelersfbfan says: Nov 21, 2010 9:36 PM

    does anyone realize the media asked him the question? it is not like he went out in the streets screaming fine him! for god’s sake, you can’t all be so stupid! if this was any other QB, you would be calling for the players head for hitting him, but go ahead with your hate – we are winning games.

  18. CKL says: Nov 21, 2010 9:37 PM

    I HATE BR but nothing someone says as a taunt (And I have no clue if BR was even taunting Seymour) should ever result in a punch to the face. Harrison’s right. And what is wrong with sticking up for your teammate verbally anyway as Harrison is doing?
    Seriously…does team bias preclude most people from trying to be objective? I’m a Pats fan BTW.

  19. smalltownqb says: Nov 21, 2010 9:40 PM

    There it is. Catch it before it gets pulled. Looks much more like a shove/slap than any kind of punch. Heck, Big Ben does not get up if it was a punch.

    I am sure this is killing Seymour. He is better than that.

  20. goldsteel says: Nov 21, 2010 9:46 PM

    There’s no wondering. The NFL does have a bias against the Steelers. Only the James Harrison unnecessary roughness penalty was mentioned on NFL Redzone. Was that the only penalty on Sunday?

    The Steelers history, their intensity and their style of play is the antithesis of the Roger Goodell philosophy of how football should be played. In Mr. Roger’s world, the Steelers are the bad guys. The Colts and the Patriots are the good guys. It’s very simple to understand. The Cowboys? Since Jerry Jones owns the team, the Cowboys get an exemption no matter what they do.

    It’s unfortunate that Pete Rozelle didn’t leave any sons behind. Unfortunate for all of us.

  21. litemater95 says: Nov 21, 2010 9:47 PM

    Seymour also was ejected Dec. 27 for hitting Browns running back Jerome Harrison after a play was over. Seymour was fined $10,000 for that infraction.

    Repeat offender….

  22. raiderapologist says: Nov 21, 2010 9:56 PM

    Seymour should get fined, but suspended? It wasn’t a helmet-to-helmet shot, like Asante Samuel just delivered, and Roethlisberger made first contact, anyway. Richard showed some fine reflexes on that hit, and Big Ben flopped like a soccer player.

  23. rstbuilders says: Nov 21, 2010 9:57 PM

    Hahaha you poor Sh*tsburgh fans! Rapelesbooger deserved a lot more than a Seymour jab. I think Seymour probably has a daughter somewhere…

  24. mol says: Nov 21, 2010 9:58 PM

    If my quarterback got smacked in the face after mouthing off, I’d say that he deserves it.

  25. joelvis72 says: Nov 21, 2010 10:03 PM

    The league is “targeting” the Steelers and has prevented them from winning 3 of the last 5 Super Bowls (they failed twice).

  26. myspaceyourface says: Nov 21, 2010 10:05 PM

    That was ridiculous. . . He should be suspended, there is no question about it.

    It doesn’t matter what someone may have done off the field, this had nothing to do with that.

    That was a dirty cheap shot and he needs to be dealt with.

  27. pittsburghsteelerz says: Nov 21, 2010 10:07 PM

    Those SIX personal foul penalties were disgusting… anybody but the Steelers and they would have been no calls.

    If James Harrison punched Brady/Manning in the head like that, he would be suspended for life!

  28. Deb says: Nov 21, 2010 10:07 PM

    @jeffperk …

    Do you work at being an ass, or is it nature’s gift? What victims? The Nevada woman who texted friends she couldn’t wait to see him again, or the Georgia woman whose medical exam showed she didn’t have intercourse with anyone that night? Grow up.

    @ravensrule …

    Super Bowl XL was a 21-10 contest in which the Seahawks had numerous dropped balls and missed field goals, while we had the longest touchdown run from scrimmage in Super Bowl history, a big trick TD play when we needed it, and a couple of major calls that went against us just like they did. Why don’t you try watching the game instead of parroting other people … or is that beyond your personal level of football expertise?

    Commissioner Goodell has the ethics of Bernie Madoff. Today the Steelers are his favorite target. But if you’re stupid enough to believe he won’t turn his focus on the Ravens if there’s good PR in it, you’re an even bigger fool than you seem to be.

  29. sircheesealot says: Nov 21, 2010 10:13 PM

    It reminded me of the whole Legarrette Blount thing. I’m sure Rothlisberger was taunting him, but the same thing happened to Blount and nobody used that as an excuse.
    He deserves to be suspended.

  30. joetoronto says: Nov 21, 2010 10:14 PM

    “The guy’s celebrating with his teammates and you punch him in his face.”
    *********************************************************
    Punch in the face my arse, what is Harrison smoking?

    It was an open hand to the side of the helmet, geez.

  31. connie75 says: Nov 21, 2010 10:25 PM

    Harrison is just like a typical steeler fan. Cry, whine, and bitch.

  32. andyprough says: Nov 21, 2010 10:25 PM

    Seymour shouldn’t be suspended for slapping a big lug like Ben. Didn’t seem to hurt him

  33. dman19 says: Nov 21, 2010 10:26 PM

    @Ravensrule…that Super Bowl XL–Was that the one where the Steelers won??–Or the one that they won??–Or the other one that they won??–or the one that they won??—etc–rinse-repeat…

  34. 8man says: Nov 21, 2010 10:30 PM

    pittsburghsteelerz says:
    Nov 21, 2010 10:07 PM
    If James Harrison punched Brady/Manning in the head like that, he would be suspended for life!
    ———————————————–
    Brady and Manning both know better than to run their mouths to people like Harrison or Seymour. Your boy looks as if he had something to say and got pounded for it.

    It’ll be interesting to hear the he(Seymour)-she(Roethlisberger)-said that comes out of this.

  35. myspaceyourface says: Nov 21, 2010 10:31 PM

    Ben wasn’t even talking to Richard, he was looking past him to his Offensive lineman. . .

    Totally uncalled for and as a repeat offender he should be heavily fined and suspended.

    He probably should have been ejected for his first fight in the game. (punches thrown)

    Officials were pansies in this game today, the score may have been 60-0 had the officials not been in it to win it.

  36. johntonioholmes says: Nov 21, 2010 10:31 PM

    Even if it was fun to watch Ben get hit, it’s still illegal you bags of excrement.

    And even if you think the Steelers benefited from bad officiating in SB XL (which you can’t name a single play, except the Ben TD and that was just too close to call) they are getting the short end now.

    If you are a serious football fan, it should bother you to know that there is a legitimate bias against any team in the NFL. Finally, there is some recognition that the Steelers have targets on their backs.

    Apparently, you crybabies aren’t real fans, or you would be upset about the damage being done to the integrity of the game.

  37. steelintn says: Nov 21, 2010 10:31 PM

    tdk24 says:
    Nov 21, 2010 9:31 PM
    I want to know what Rapethisburger said to him that made him get that mad. He reacted so fast that i bet the OL was taunting him hard leading up to the slap.

    ————————————————

    How about nothing. That’s what he said…

    “Seymour said he doesn’t remember Roethlisberger saying anything to him and Roethlisberger said afterwards he was stunned by Seymour’s actions.”

  38. kchitman says: Nov 21, 2010 10:34 PM

    It’s too bad he had face mask on his helmet, because he went down easy. Seymour deserved a better outcome due to the expense he will incur. Another great chapter in the rivalry, Raiders have been bad since Madden. Harrison will likely be fined heavily again!

  39. myspaceyourface says: Nov 21, 2010 10:34 PM

    To all the soft, weak minded, fragile, anti gym crowd in here tonight. . . . .

    Harrison wasn’t whining, he was asked question comparing his fines to this situation. . . He answered the questions.

    The officials should have to answer for some of the terrible officiating that took place in this game.

  40. nathanscottphillips says: Nov 21, 2010 10:36 PM

    I thought that tough guy Harrison retired a few weeks back?

  41. tellmeaboutitbaby says: Nov 21, 2010 10:39 PM

    @rstbuilders – just cuz your mom’s package is bigger than yours is no reason to act like a whiney little bitch

  42. clock1is1king says: Nov 21, 2010 10:48 PM

    First, Big Ben can take a punch and still have a great game.

    Second, anybody who watched the game knows that the refs conspired to call a one sided game.

    Third, even if Big Ben did taunt him, Seymour isn’t in third grade, whatever happened to sticks and stones? Seymour should be fined and suspended. Harrison is correct, the plays he Harrison been fined for were between whistles. Seymour needs to lower his dosage of PEDs appartently…

    Fourth, how many of you haters out there would not want Harrison on your team?

    TOO BAD, HE’S ON THE STEELERS!!

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. dienavinjohnson says: Nov 21, 2010 10:51 PM

    Harrison is such a punk. He’s right this time though. Seymour deserves a huge fine for that. Harrison must know that if he ever ran into Seymour outside the playing field he’d be in for a world of hurt. Seymour is a truly tough guy.

  44. nrosenfeldt says: Nov 21, 2010 10:54 PM

    How about this?

    Richard Seymour should get fined or suspended for punching Ben as soon as the NFL decides to fine or suspend James Harrison for punching another player IN THE SUPER BOWL. Am I the only person who remembers this?

    What was Harrison’s punishment that night? Oh yeah, one-half yard against his team.

    Sounds about right.

  45. blackandgold1414 says: Nov 21, 2010 10:55 PM

    LOL…..Haters hate.

    The officiating was horrible the whole game. The Harrison hit on the pick 6, Woodley’s roughing and Clark’s so called helmet to helmet were all laughable. The stripes tried to keep the Raiders in the game and all they could muster up was 3 points.

    I don’t think Seymour should be suspended but a hefty fine should be handed out.

  46. midgetbanger says: Nov 21, 2010 10:59 PM

    Steelers whining again? Surprising.

  47. raiders757 says: Nov 21, 2010 11:05 PM

    I’m sure he’ll get fined, but there is no reason to suspend him. It was Ben who decided to walk around his own players and start crap with Seymour, and he got what he deserved. If anything, Ben should have been kicked out of the game as well. Seymour punked his sorry arse.

  48. wycoff says: Nov 21, 2010 11:07 PM

    Seymour open hand karate punches Roethlisberger under the chin- under the new NFL rules, he should undoubtedly be suspended.

    Roethlisberger wasn’t talking smack. Look at the replay. He was running to the endzone to congratulate his receiver. He put his hand on Seymour as he brushed past him, and Seymour punched him. I doubt that Roethlisberger even realized that Seymour was there before the punch.

    The Super Bowl XL stuff is so lame. Maybe if Holmgren could have managed a clock, or if Jerame Stevens could have caught passes, or Darrell Jackson could have got open without pushing off, or if Sean Locklear could block Haggans without blatantly holding, or if the Seahawks punter could have stopped booming punts into the endzone, then the Seahawks could have won. Unfortunately for them, they were too inept. The Steelers played a sloppy game, but they were still better than the Seahawks. All of the whining has made me even more proud of XL than of XLIII, because it gets under people’s skin that the 6th seed Steelers made history.

    Steeler haters, your pathetic jealousy is transparent. Your constant griping is my joy.

  49. tobiasjodter says: Nov 21, 2010 11:08 PM

    This NFL officiating just sucks… Vick just got decked by Boley long after the ball was gone (12:13, 4th Q)… no flag… if that had been a Steeler there would have been 3-4 flags flying + a fine later in the week… I call BS!

  50. wycoff says: Nov 21, 2010 11:11 PM

    nrosenfeldt says:
    Nov 21, 2010 10:54 PM
    How about this?

    Richard Seymour should get fined or suspended for punching Ben as soon as the NFL decides to fine or suspend James Harrison for punching another player IN THE SUPER BOWL. Am I the only person who remembers this?

    _________

    Blocking, punching… it’s all the same to ignorant NFC West fans. All they’re good at is whining about penalties in Super Bowls.

  51. raiders757 says: Nov 21, 2010 11:12 PM

    “anybody who watched the game knows that the refs conspired to call a one sided game.”

    ..so the tackle from behind/so-called block that wasn’t called while Ben ran in a TD proves what?

    The Steelers got robbed by the refs on two early calls, but they got away with bloody murder for most of the game. They were playing dirty football, and the refs tried to let them get away with it for the most part, so don’t even try to claim the they were out to get the Steelers.

  52. cornerdenizen0 says: Nov 21, 2010 11:17 PM

    For those of us who remember those beautifully violent Steelers and Raiders games of the 70’s, Seymour’s punch is like manna from heaven! That sort of thing used to be par for the course. Good old days indeed…

  53. bspn2 says: Nov 21, 2010 11:22 PM

    Seymour should be fined at least $100k and suspended for a minimum of one game. If Harrison (or anyone else for that matter) did this to Marsha Brady, he’d be banned from the league for life.

    Goodell and his cronies better get this right or the constant screwing over of the Steelers defensive players will be obvious; even though it probably already is.

  54. wycoff says: Nov 21, 2010 11:25 PM

    raiders757 says:
    Nov 21, 2010 11:12 PM
    “anybody who watched the game knows that the refs conspired to call a one sided game.”

    ..so the tackle from behind/so-called block that wasn’t called while Ben ran in a TD proves what?

    The Steelers got robbed by the refs on two early calls, but they got away with bloody murder for most of the game. They were playing dirty football, and the refs tried to let them get away with it for the most part, so don’t even try to claim the they were out to get the Steelers.

    _____

    Jesus, Raiders757. Ike Taylor, a CB, got penalized for stepping in front of a pass. I’ve never even heard of that penalty before.

    The game was bizarre. It seemed like the refs were making things up as they went along. I’m not even saying that it was anti-Steelers. I’m saying that it was a manifestation of the new NFL, and I don’t think that I like what I see. It’s going to be the Arena league in 10 years.

  55. lostsok says: Nov 21, 2010 11:33 PM

    And have Steeler fans ALWAYS been this whiney? It’s like I stumbled into a Jet’s fan site!

  56. macpac86 says: Nov 21, 2010 11:43 PM

    Steelers players whining, Steelers fans whining and Ravens fans whining about Steelers fans whining.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    It would do the NFL a great service if the Steelers and Ravens players and fans would stop crying. There is no award for who ever cries the loudest.

  57. bucks12965 says: Nov 21, 2010 11:49 PM

    Remember when that dbag Jeremy Stevens was with Seattle and that guy kneed him in the groin, & everyone was pretty much ok with it because everyone knew that Stevens was a dbag? I believe the same logic should apply here.

  58. cup1981 says: Nov 21, 2010 11:50 PM

    peytonwantsaflag says:
    Nov 21, 2010 9:33 PM
    after the calls they got and they are wondering about “anti-Steeler bias”?

    ha

    oh yeah – here’s James playing the game within the whistles

    http://www.pronewsblog.com/sports/james-harrison-punching-aaron-francisco/
    ————————————————
    ummm, first, that play was like three years ago.

    Second, that WAS within the whistles. The play was still going.

    Third. that was on either a fumble or Int return (I can’t remember).

    Fourth, Harrison was blocking the guy and pushed him downward, then the guy had the balls to stand up before the whistle blew, soooooo Harrison sat him right back down with a LEGAL block to the chest.

    Absolutely nothing wring with that, he was within his rights as a blocker.

    See my steelers blog by clicking my user name for steelers reports.

  59. cup1981 says: Nov 21, 2010 11:52 PM

    Actually I just remembered, that was a punt return. And you can see that the ball is still in the air when he makes that block. Perfectly legal, especially on a put return when you need to keep every defender on the ground as long as possible.

  60. richl99 says: Nov 22, 2010 12:00 AM

    florioisatool says:

    Nov 21, 2010 9:22 PM
    Does Harrison play ball or is a professional whiner? Can’t stand the Raiders but this guy is the Terrell Owens of linebackers.

    Please, if you are going to make a comment, please know your facts… Harrision was a safety ya dummy….

  61. laxer37 says: Nov 22, 2010 12:14 AM

    raiders757 says:

    “They were playing dirty football, and the refs tried to let them get away with it for the most part, so don’t even try to claim the they were out to get the Steelers.”

    ————————————————-

    I realize you’re a Raider fan but really, what game were you watching?

    The refs handed your team the only 3 points they scored and took a touchdown away from the Steelers.

  62. clock1is1king says: Nov 22, 2010 12:39 AM

    @raiders757

    Since when are the Raiders a bunch of pansies? They play a physical style of football too.

    Tom Cable punched Randy Hanson and sent him to the hospital, so I believe you should point your misguided rage at the big man who sets that kind of tone with your favorite team.

    The Raiders used to be and still are the criminal element of the NFL, as Chuck Noll so eloquently put it back in the 70s.

    Never thought I’d see the day that a Raiders fan would make the case that another team plays dirty!!!

  63. radrntn says: Nov 22, 2010 12:40 AM

    @laxer37 says:
    Nov 22, 2010 12:14 AM

    what game were you watching? the refs let your sorry ass O-line hold on every play, let alone more then holding they repeatedly pulled guys and tackled them to the ground……nor can I beleive in the first quarter they did not call pass interference when your cornerback tackled the wide receiver while the ball was still in the air…..pretty appearent the refs like always have the steelers back, but they suck so bad that had to make a few calls. (the one call for roughing the passer I admit was a weak call, but QB’s get that call every week) Can’t see the refs although giving you another ring, when your o-line sucks that bad.

  64. bucks12965 says: Nov 22, 2010 12:44 AM

    hey richl99…read the first sentence of this article….dummy!

  65. clock1is1king says: Nov 22, 2010 12:51 AM

    Here’s another thought… there are several articles about how onesided the officiating was against the Steelers. The more the media picks up and runs with the story that the refs are out to get the Steelers, the more it will end up helping the Steelers.

    Doesn’t the front office of the NFL get it?

    Conspiring with refs to make questionable / wrong calls in the name of trying to pacify the Steelers is going to put a magnifying glass on the situation, and force the front office of the NFL into a situation where they have to call the dogs off of the Steelers.

    The best thing Florio could do for the Steelers is write an article about how horrid / one sided the officiating was in the Steelers game. Which is why I don’t see Florio writing that article… Florio is in Goodell’s back pocket, it’s plain to see!!

    No worries, though, ‘independent’ media is picking up on this story and running with it!

  66. forthelove says: Nov 22, 2010 2:03 AM

    @peytonwantsaflag and @cup1981

    cup1981 says:
    Nov 21, 2010 11:50 PM
    peytonwantsaflag says:
    Nov 21, 2010 9:33 PM
    after the calls they got and they are wondering about “anti-Steeler bias”?

    ha

    oh yeah – here’s James playing the game within the whistles

    http://www.pronewsblog.com/sports/james-harrison-punching-aaron-francisco/
    ————————————————
    ummm, first, that play was like three years ago.

    Second, that WAS within the whistles. The play was still going. ….
    —————————————————-

    cup1981 – you’re an idiot. Harrison punched Francisco in the back while he was down and then shoved him by the throat when he tried to get up. Which video were you watching dumb@ss!

    http://www.pronewsblog.com/sports/james-harrison-punching-aaron-francisco/

  67. cup1981 says: Nov 22, 2010 2:21 AM

    richl99 says:
    Nov 22, 2010 12:00 AM
    florioisatool says:

    Nov 21, 2010 9:22 PM
    Does Harrison play ball or is a professional whiner? Can’t stand the Raiders but this guy is the Terrell Owens of linebackers.

    Please, if you are going to make a comment, please know your facts… Harrision was a safety ya dummy….
    ————————————————-

    Hey dummy, they are talking about JAMES Harrison not Rodney Harrison moron!

    James Harrison IS a linebacker.

    Rodney Harrison WAS a safety.

    Read before you post…

  68. descendency says: Nov 22, 2010 2:35 AM

    richl99 says:

    Please, if you are going to make a comment, please know your facts… Harrision was a safety ya dummy….

    ——————————————–

    LOLOLLOLLOL. James Harrison, Pittsburgh Steelers Linebacker, most certainly is not a safety.

    Rodney Harrison, former Chargers and Patriots safety, is not being discussed here.

  69. rebalynne says: Nov 22, 2010 3:00 AM

    Those refs are psycho. What in the world are they thinking? All those flags flying and for no good reason. The refs had to have been paid off about what was going on there. The Steelers still kicked their asses and the refs were doing everything they could to stop it. Like I documented before, knock the crap out of the refs. They are part of the field anyways the blind paid off grandpas! If they fine Harrison this week, it is a BLANKING joke. If I was Rooney I’d pay it for him this time.

  70. 808smith says: Nov 22, 2010 3:23 AM

    Once a Patriot, always a Patriot…

  71. steeltownpride says: Nov 22, 2010 5:41 AM

    The Raiders should be lucky they only lost by 32 points . I know 14 points came off of the board as well . One for a bad penalty and the other was a legit penalty . So be grateful the Steelers didnt put 50 on the punk ass Raiders . Looked like the old days if you cant beat them you try to hurt them . Raiders were playing well past the whistles . But its ok we won in convincing fashion . Big bad raiders were like a pee wee team out there . Out classed , out manhandled and outplayed in all aspects of the game . With all the Raiderettes crying about the game i cant believe no one starting whinning about the immaculate reception lol . Yes he caught the ball get over it ….

  72. bdrunk says: Nov 22, 2010 7:03 AM

    jeffperk says:
    Nov 21, 2010 9:22 PM
    Quit crying Harrison!! We all know Ben deserved it, isn’t that what he said about his victims? I guess it’s not the same when Karma comes back & punches your douche QB in the face. One punch & down goes Roethlisberger. Who knew he had a glass chin?!

    ——————————
    Ben returned to the game on the next offensive play and continued the hurt. 35-3 was the final btw. Meanwhile, the NFL’s Knight in Shining Armor, Richard Seywhore, is ejected for delivering the Karma, and the Oakland Raiders slip to 5-5 on the season, their fans realize they aren’t that good, even when the refs give them 160 yards of offense to work with.

  73. raidersteve413 says: Nov 22, 2010 7:42 AM

    Anti steelers? Ummm what leauge do u guys watch? Steelers get every call! The play when big sey knocked florios golden boy out….
    watch that play steelers d man actually tackled seymoure!!!!!!
    it wasnt just holding 2 of them tackled him!
    NO CALL! thats why the steelers won that meaningless game and thats why ben got KO’d
    Raiders going to the superbowl…..
    Steelers…..Going NOWHERE

  74. maddog111 says: Nov 22, 2010 8:02 AM

    Seriously, what the hell is happening this year? Is it that Goodell has the refs so confused now they don’t know what to do? I’m not a person who thinks they’re out there directly trying to influece the game in the favor of one team or the other, I just think they don’t know what to call these days, and they’re being hyper reactive to anything resembling a penalty. Then they’re screamed at by the coaches, and know they’ve made a bad call, then they stop calling anything. It’s like watching the f’ing Keystone copes out there. A total joke.

  75. boothisman says: Nov 22, 2010 8:09 AM

    I love how when the Steelers get called for ‘roughing’ the people on this site go nuts, calling the Steelers names and saying how ‘dirty’ the Steelers organization is.

    But when some thug throws a punch against the Steelers (Tennessee & Oakland now), the same people defend those actions.

    I guess the moral of the story is ‘Haters gonna hate’. Probably because the team they support at some point felt the wrath of the black and gold. So, please do ‘hate’, because drinking your tears from the base of 6 Lombardi trophies tastes oh so delicious.

    Good game Steelers!

  76. johntonioholmes says: Nov 22, 2010 8:14 AM

    I love how everyone is like, “Oh he was just doing society a favor…”

    Regardless of the fact that both of the allegations against Roethlisberger are what D.As refer to as, “Bull caca,” people are failing to realize that Seymour was ejected last year for the same thing.

    The reality of the situation is that Seymour is a gigantic turd.

    He wasn’t delivering karma; he was being a turd and a dirty player.

  77. musportsfan says: Nov 22, 2010 8:18 AM

    I’m sure he’ll get fined, but there is no reason to suspend him. It was Ben who decided to walk around his own players and start crap with Seymour, and he got what he deserved. If anything, Ben should have been kicked out of the game as well. Seymour punked his sorry arse.

    The only folks that got punked were the guys wearing Raiders uniforms. BIG TIME.

  78. raidernation666 says: Nov 22, 2010 8:19 AM

    Jesus tap-dancing Christ you Steeler fans whine! I might buy some stock in kleenex the way you guys are crying. You won the game, move on! I have.

  79. raidernation666 says: Nov 22, 2010 8:26 AM

    “Steeler haters, your pathetic jealousy is transparent. Your constant griping is my joy.”
    ————————————
    Your team’s constant fines give me joy

  80. 8dollarbeer says: Nov 22, 2010 8:34 AM

    Ben got him back after the game in a bathroom stall in the visitors locker room. Seymore said afterwards, “I don’t know why he followed me in the stall, I said no 3 times, and he still just insisted!”

  81. everybodygotaids says: Nov 22, 2010 8:49 AM

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The Steelers (players and fans) NEVER get to complain about bad officiating. If they have ONE quasi-poorly officiated game, it’s a huge conspiracy. Did you guys miss all the calls that went in the Steelers’ favor against the Pats?

  82. jlb10 says: Nov 22, 2010 8:56 AM

    i’m still waiting to see a punch. odd the refs throw out seymour for a “punch” yet only a 15 yard penalty to an open hand against the steelers player. seymour did not hit ben with a closed hand.
    on top of that big ben has a chin like glass joe. crumbled like a house of cards.
    harrison is just irritated that he will be paying some more fines this week

  83. anarchopurplism says: Nov 22, 2010 9:19 AM

    Seymour got what he deserved.

    I’d only suspend him if that is a part of the “repeat offender” penalty. If not, then no way.

    It was an open-handed shove to the face. Outside the rules, so yeah….you’re out of the game and your pocketbook will be a little slimmer.

    If you open your mouth on the field, you may get smacked. That’s reality. Whether or not Ben’s comments were directed at Seymour or not. Nobody likes excessive cheering guy during a rout and if you get in a guys personal space to do that, you are taking a risk. Field etiquette/unwritten rule @ play: you get in a guys space to talk trash or celebrate in the heat of a moment….you might get smacked.

    Seymour is down-playing it so it will go away and not have the situation get worse via the media. He’s probably feels like he did not display good leadership by controlling his emotions, if he is the team leader they say he is.

    Let’s not make this more than it is. No grand-conspiracy here.

  84. birdmanbrownies says: Nov 22, 2010 9:28 AM

    steelers fans….they handed you a superbowl…dont complain because 1 regular season game you didn’t get the calls.

  85. toledoohoh says: Nov 22, 2010 9:44 AM

    Disgusting to see Steelers trying to get fellow professionals fined/suspended after every game.

  86. steelersmichele says: Nov 22, 2010 9:44 AM

    All I can say is that NO other team would have been able to win yesterday with those officials on the field–except the Steelers.

    That’s right–with EVERY call going against them, the Steelers were still able to completely shut down the Raiders.

    If that happened to Baltimore, you know Ray Lewis and his crew would be all over the television and radio complaining about how the refs were taking their team out of the game. They had one missed call in the Falcons game and they were blaming the refs for the loss.

    The post game comments from the Steelers on the officiating–none of them commented on the way the officals called the game.

    That’s right–the officials DO NOT change the outcome of the games. The officals DO NOT dtermine who wins and who loses no matter how hard they try.

    And I can guarantee all those supporting Seymour here would be calling for Harrison’s immediate suspension if he did that to a QB. Just goes to show when people are jealous they can’t be objective.

  87. bwisnasky says: Nov 22, 2010 9:47 AM

    As a Raider fan, I can say that I thought the officiating was horribly biased against the Steelers. That said, it was Roethlisberger that played after the whistle by coming up and running his mouth. If he had just accepted the TD, and walked off the field, his punk ass wouldn’t have gotten decked. That said, either he is an incredible p*$$y, getting knocked to the ground by what amounted to an open hand b!tchslap, or he deserves an academy award. Or Richard Seymour is the strongest man in the world. Certainly Seymour didn’t do the team any favors by getting kicked out, but the only reason he got ejected was because Ben flopped. You see guys taking shots like that to the face all the time on the line, and no one gets ejected. Personally, I hope Seymour b!tchslaps Rivers and shuts his mouth too.

  88. tiffpats4eva says: Nov 22, 2010 9:48 AM

    blackglass3 says: NOW should offer to pay Seymour’s fine.
    *******************************

    Instead of actually helping victimized women, donate money to a millionaires unsporstmanship like conduct fine?

    I hope you don’t hold a position of power in anything.

  89. waynefontes says: Nov 22, 2010 9:55 AM

    I thought James Harrison retired…

  90. henrypuppyhead says: Nov 22, 2010 9:55 AM

    Steelers fans giving Vikings fans a run for their money in the overall whining department.

  91. steelersmichele says: Nov 22, 2010 10:01 AM

    And why shouldn’t we whine? It works for Brady and P. Manning. Yes, Brady does “ask/whine” for penalties and gets most of them, and he gets the rules changed for him (tuck rule, hitting QBs in the knee). Manning was upset at the position of the ref during pre-season because he couldn’t run his offense fast enough, and after he complained and whined, the league adjusted the brand new rule just for him.

    So you know what–why shouldn’t we whine like the other teams do? It works for them. If the league wants us to adjust to the new style of play, then we should also adjust to the new style of complaining when things don’t go our way. Goodell has proved if you whine, he’ll make changes to make you happy.

    And believe me, if it was your team getting those flags, you would be “whining,” too. You’re just mad those flags didn’t stop us. You are jealous because you know your team wouldn’t be able to overcome it.

  92. everybodygotaids says: Nov 22, 2010 10:02 AM

    On a related note, did everyone see Mike Tomlin’s post-game remarks? All class. Surprising, considering the team, but extremely well said and professional.

  93. sportsinhd says: Nov 22, 2010 10:03 AM

    I don’t like accusing the NFL of having a bias for or against one team, but yesterday’s Steelers/Raiders game should give fans some pause. There were three horrible calls that went against Pittsburgh. If you were watching the CBS broadcast you heard Dan Fouts say a number of times how bad the calls were. I somehow doubt that Foutsy is “pro-Pittsburgh.” The simple fact of that matter that personal fouls on Harrison, Woodley, and Clark were B.S., plain and simple.

    Refs make bad calls, but after some of the horrible calls against the Steelers versus the Bengals (two of which the NFL admitted error with) and then against the Raiders you have to scratch your head a little bit.

  94. bdrunk says: Nov 22, 2010 10:14 AM

    Love the posts saying BEN GOT KNOCKED THE EFF OUT! when in reality he was simply checked for concussion symptoms and then back in for the next offensive play. The guy got sacked 50 times last year, and also won the battle of the windshield in ’06, he’s pretty tough. So yeah, enjoy that pie-facing. Heck I’m sure thousands of Steeler fans at some point or another would’ve loved to do the same thing to Ben.

    I say don’t suspend Seymour, just point and laugh at him for acting like a D-bag in an important game and had to watch his team get beat from the locker room.

  95. pburland23 says: Nov 22, 2010 10:19 AM

    I’m an NFC guy, so I have no realy enmity towards the Steelers, but James Harrison is probably the last person who should be giving lectures on cheap shots.

    Also, Steelers fans, the league isn’t out to get you. Stop with the paranoid idiocy.

  96. somesome says: Nov 22, 2010 10:23 AM

    @steelersmichele

    what are you talking about, Harrison IS complaining like a little child. There was no more crying by Ravens players after the Atlanta game which by the way was on the road on a short week. I also hope you do not cry after a win, that is the most pathetic, yet Harrison did it anyway.

    Of course Harrison would be punished more severly than Seymour as he has a history with the league this year.

    As for the Steelers, well we will see won’t we? Second place in the AFC North for now…. Since the Ravens hold more AFC tie breakers you will actually have to win more games, not just beat the Ravens or you will be fighting for a wild card.

  97. steelersmichele says: Nov 22, 2010 11:02 AM

    Somesome, Seymour was ejected last season for fighting. This marks his second offense for getting thrown out of a game, which according to Goodell is a pattern of behavior. Harrison’s fines are also based on previous seasons, so with that in mind, Seymour should face a hefty fine and a suspension. Blatently hitting a QB in the face mask should be the same as brushing up against his helmet. If you’re going to protect a QB, you protect all of them. You know if this happened to Brady/Manning/Brees, a suspension would be automatic. If this happened to Flacco, R. Lewis would be all up in arms.

    The truth of the matter is I don’t think he should be fined or suspended. I don’t even think he should have been thrown out of the game. I would have been happy with a 15 yard penalty and left it at that. But considering what the league has done to my guys this year, I’m all for a big fine and suspension. Why not? If my guys are going to get in trouble for hitting hard, then other guys should face the same punishment.

    We are .5 games behind the Ravens. As for tie breakers, both our teams lost to the Pats and we beat the Falcons and the Bengals, so don’t go saying you hold the AFC tie breakers just yet–there are still many games to be played and anything can happen in the coming weeks.

  98. kennyfukinpowers says: Nov 22, 2010 11:04 AM

    Squealers and their fans crying about the refs again? Shocking! Not satisfied with the last 2 superbowls the refs gave you? On Ben’s TD run, #68 not only held, he tackled the defensive lineman. No call as usual.

  99. holeinone09 says: Nov 22, 2010 11:23 AM

    As a Steeler fan who rarely complains about anything, some things yesterday were just ridculous. First, the penalty on Harrison for sacking Campbell which nullified the TD on the pick was poor. The ref said Harrison’s full body weight landed on Campbell. Even if it did, so what? It wasn’t a late hit or a helmet to helmet hit. That was a very poor call, and makes it appear that Harrison is being targeted by the NFL. And that was not the only poor call, as the announcers pointed out.

    As for Seymour, he should at least get a major fine, and possibly a suspension. GODell has an interesting issue to deal with now. People can say what they want, but what he did was much worse than anything Harrison has done, because it didn’t involve trying to make a tackle or a play. He took it upon himself to smack Ben. I don’t care if Ben was celebrating, calling Seymour’s mother a name, whatever. Just reaching out and slugging someone can’t happen. If Harrsion would have done that to YOUR QB, you would be screaming bloody murder right now.

    Fine and possible suspension. Let’s see what GODell does.

    Great win by the Steelers. It should have been by 50 points.

    GO STEELERS!!

  100. urworstnitemare58 says: Nov 22, 2010 12:14 PM

    I think this was racially motavated and hope that Rev. Jesse Jackson and the NFL steps up and goes after Seymour since that is what would have happened if the tables were turned.

  101. steelerdynasty2010 says: Nov 22, 2010 12:25 PM

    please do not dignify “urworstnitemare” with a response….you should be embarrassed for that

  102. melikefootball says: Nov 22, 2010 12:34 PM

    I finaly see the Steeler fans point of view. This morning there has been no hype to the punch as was with Harrison hits over and over. Was way late on ESPN hour with no fan fare. Harrison has a good point especially after watching other game yesterday and checking in on the Steeler game the flags were fast and furious when in other game big hits low hits on QB’s and head hits no flags. Maybe you Steeler fans aren’t as high strung as you seem.

  103. cincyalldaway says: Nov 22, 2010 12:47 PM

    What? What are you on? Hell yeah he should be suspended. Come on, fair is fair. We all know if that was a Steeler player pulling something like that, his ass would be gone for a few games.

    ================================
    Really, I don’t recall that whine ass Harrison being suspended when he tried to jack up Andrew Whitworth last year. Harrison was getting man handled and when he finally realized that he couldn’t get around Whit he started slapping like a little biatch! Ben deserved what he got. If you don’t want to get your ass handed to you then you should run your mouth. Ben learned a valuable lesson. It’s just a damn shame that he had a helmet on! He and Harrison are both punks!!

  104. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 22, 2010 12:55 PM

    steelers6pack says:

    Godell and his henchmen will prove they are anti-steelers and give Seymour a small fine and no suspension! This is how his horrible commish works! He has some refs in his back pocket and his disciplien is total unfair!
    ____________

    That’s utterly hilarious. Firstly, any Steelers fan complaining about dirty hits or a bias against their team is a high water mark for irony. Secondly, refs in his pocket? The refs work for the league that Goodell supervises, idiot. They are ALL “in his pocket”.
    ___

    Deb says:

    Super Bowl XL was a 21-10 contest in which the Seahawks had numerous dropped balls and missed field goals, while we had the longest touchdown run from scrimmage in Super Bowl history, a big trick TD play when we needed it, and a couple of major calls that went against us just like they did. Why don’t you try watching the game instead of parroting other people … or is that beyond your personal level of football expertise?
    _____________

    Funny, that’s not what Bill Leavy, the referee of XL, said about it.. He confessed to making numerous bad calls that “affected the outcome” of the contest. Why don’t YOU try watching the game?

    How long are you going to deny publicly admitted obvious facts and claim you won that game legitimately? The whole country knows you didn’t. Give it a rest already. It’s hard to accept anything else you say (even though I agree with most of it) as being reasonable and unbiased when you continue down that path.

  105. gamustangdude says: Nov 22, 2010 1:12 PM

    @Beer Cheese Soup

    I agree, espeically when you kept saying how the steelers won. Drowned in whatever contraversy Non-Steeler fans can come up with, (you can include the refs as well), Steelers won that super bowl and 6 more.

  106. lebronsinsecurity says: Nov 22, 2010 1:17 PM

    I’m sooo tired of the Steelers fans and players whining.. Give it a rest already, it’s just childish at this point

  107. joetoronto says: Nov 22, 2010 1:17 PM

    Allot of people here apparently don’t know the difference between a slap to the helmet and a punch to the face.

    Trust me, there IS a difference.

  108. steelersmichele says: Nov 22, 2010 1:22 PM

    Beer Cheese Soup–SuperBowl XL is over. Over. It’s in the past. No matter how much you talk about the refs “giving” us the game, it still stands as a win for Pittsburgh. Try as you might, the NFL is NOT (I repeat IS NOT) going to take the trophy away from us.

    I laugh every time I hear someone mention SB XL. It’s like you’re getting dumped by a girl and you keep saying “but wait, I’m nice, I’m smart, I’m funny.” You keep hoping you can change her mind and she is thinking to herself “this guy is such a loser. Why won’t he just get over it and move on?”

  109. brentfarve says: Nov 22, 2010 1:42 PM

    I sure like all the whining about all the whining steeler fans. Its starting to sound like Ray Ray and the Ratbirds around here.

  110. returner8685 says: Nov 22, 2010 2:27 PM

    @Beer Cheese Soup – don’t quote Billy Leavy as saying he “affected the outcome”. He actually said he “impacted the game”. Two very different things.

  111. steelerdynasty2010 says: Nov 22, 2010 3:42 PM

    but when did Bill Leavy say he CONSPIRED WITH and/or INSTRUCTED the other refs to hand the game to the steelers?was he the ONLY official to make any questionable calls during that game? i swear, you whiners will cling to anything. ALL CALLS AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE GAME…good ones and bad. both kinds of calls occur in EVERY GAME. the refs arent perfect, neither are the players, neither is the commissioner. the point is that BOTH teams in EVERY game must play beyond the officiating. When you (as a player) get hung up on how the game is being officiated instead of beating the man across from you, you will most likely lose. especially when you think every bad call is a smoking gun for some conspiracy theory you have bouncing around in your head.

  112. myopian says: Nov 22, 2010 4:13 PM

    #
    joetoronto says: Nov 22, 2010 1:17 PM

    Allot of people here apparently don’t know the difference between a slap to the helmet and a punch to the face.

    Trust me, there IS a difference.

    _______________________________
    I played football through college and you get punched or slapped in the face almost every practice by your own players. It happens all the time and the worst thing that happens if your helmet is on and secure is a little pain from the chin strap getting pushed back. It doesn’t really do anything because YOU ARE WEARING A HELMET.
    Why doesn’t the NFL have guys at practice monitoring all the fights that go on there so they can put a little extra coin in their pocket and take all the fun out of a great game?

  113. debthebusybody says: Nov 22, 2010 4:24 PM

    Harrison should be thrown out of the league.

    No class.

  114. Deb says: Nov 22, 2010 7:32 PM

    Not sure why I’m bothering to answer because my comments this morning were removed from the Steelers threads–a common “technical” problem that doesn’t see to affect anyone else’s posts. Apparently any word I type has been deemed obscene.

    @Beer Cheese …

    Leavy said he felt he’d made a mistake on two calls that did not change the outcome of the game. The rest is your fabrication and your bizarre obsession. And after the refs admitted handing the Packs their previous win over the Vikes, I’d think you’d just crawl off in shame rather than keep harping on this.

  115. Deb says: Nov 22, 2010 7:38 PM

    @joetoronto …

    Answered you this AM. No obscenities, but I guess Rosenthal found it subversive. Look at the film–it was a smack in the face and completely uncalled for. And throwing for three TDs, running for one more speaks for itself–especially while the makeshift o-line was being flagged for holding every otner play.

    Sorry to be sooooo offensive PFT.

  116. raiderfankirk says: Nov 22, 2010 8:42 PM

    Play of the week. All u idiots asking about brady and manning. Their smart QB’s a would’nt grab a very large man a talk shiznt.

  117. Deb says: Nov 22, 2010 10:34 PM

    Guess I owe Rosenthal an apology. My post to joetoronto is on another thread. My only comment removed today (so far) was on a Florio thread. Maybe it’s obscene to suggest he should call out the commissioner on his inconsistency :)

  118. clock1is1king says: Nov 22, 2010 11:14 PM

    Deb, Florio is part of the conspiracy.

    Not sure why he’s not written an article about how Corrente and his crew have a horrible reputation, and how teams actually put in special offensive packages because Corrente’s team calls more offensive pass interference than any other ref crew in the NFL.

    They are the most ‘activist’ officiating crew there is.

    No other officiating crew injects itself into games like Corrente’s… and that USED to be the kind of thing Florio would write about before he became a mouthpiece for Goodell and the NFL…

    Oh, and by the way, Corrente is from the LOS ANGELES, CA AREA!!

  119. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 23, 2010 9:28 AM

    Deb says:

    @Beer Cheese …

    …And after the refs admitted handing the Packs their previous win over the Vikes, I’d think you’d just crawl off in shame rather than keep harping on this.
    ____________

    They didn’t admit to “handing” the Vikings anything, they just admitted that two touchdowns were called improperly. And I’ll say it: they were right.

    However, bad calls happen. If Childress had thrown the flag when he should have, one would have been overturned. He didn’t, and instead chose to whine about it in a press conference afterward. The result was a lost game, and later a lost job.

    There are many different ways to lose a game. That particular one was a result of coaching. The Vikings can cry refs all they want, but it doesn’t change that fact. Besides, we just removed all doubt as to who the better team was the week anyway.

  120. bdrunk says: Nov 23, 2010 11:09 AM

    raiderfankirk says:
    Nov 22, 2010 8:42 PM
    Play of the week. All u idiots asking about brady and manning. Their smart QB’s a would’nt grab a very large man a talk shiznt.
    ———————–
    Smart fans aren’t talking shiznt after getting stomped.

  121. rajbais says: Nov 23, 2010 12:44 PM

    Does Roger know that Seymour no longer plays for New England???

    This is was a disgraceful penalty. This should have been at least $75,000 or a 1-game suspension.

    You can’t hit defenseless players, but you can sucker punch them or unnecessarily hit them while the play is dead??

    Goodell is an idiot!!!

  122. Deb says: Nov 24, 2010 12:48 AM

    Yeah yeah, Beer Cheese. A ref says he thinks he made a couple of bad calls on incidental plays in a game with an 11-point score differential and you position it as a major conspiracy in which a team paid off an entire officiating crew, yada yada yada. But when the NFL admits an officiating crew TOOK A TD OFF THE BOARD in a game where the final score was less than a TD difference, it means nothing because you beat them the next time you met. Yeah, well the Steelers played the Seahawks the next season and ran them into the ground. You are THE biggest freaking hypocrite on these threads. And since SBXL didn’t even involve your team, you’re one big jackass, too.

  123. Deb says: Nov 24, 2010 12:53 AM

    And I just love this. I made a thoughtful, well-argued post about Roger Goodell that was removed from Florio’s thread because I argued for Florio to take a stand. Then I made another post about Roger Goodell that drew this response:

    rebalynne says:
    Nov 23, 2010 4:24 AM
    Deb,

    Stop with your victim’s right crap! Nobody cares about YOU! You are probably lying anyways. Attention whore.

    And no moderator has a problem with this shrieking shrew who has followed me from thread to thread to thread calling me a whore for almost a year? So … it’s obscene to ask Florio to take a stand contrary to the commissioner … but it’s not obscene for this maniac to follow women posters around and call them whores? Interesting comment policy.

  124. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 24, 2010 2:11 AM

    Deb says:

    Yeah yeah, Beer Cheese. A ref says he thinks he made a couple of bad calls on incidental plays in a game with an 11-point score differential and you position it as a major conspiracy in which a team paid off an entire officiating crew, yada yada yada. But when the NFL admits an officiating crew TOOK A TD OFF THE BOARD in a game where the final score was less than a TD difference, it means nothing because you beat them the next time you met. Yeah, well the Steelers played the Seahawks the next season and ran them into the ground. You are THE biggest freaking hypocrite on these threads. And since SBXL didn’t even involve your team, you’re one big jackass, too.
    ____________

    1.They were not incidental plays. They were plays that “impacted the game”. I don’t believe it was necessarily Rooney that made the payoff, but the generally accepted notion throughout the country is that someone most certainly did.

    2. You sure do spend a lot of time defending this “win”. That alone says a lot about your own lingering doubts, although I am sure you’d never admit to having them. Argue with me all you like, I’m still in the majority here, and for very good reason.

    3. The Quarless TD call in the previous Packers-Vikings game was clearly incorrect. The Shiancoe one was debatable as well. If that game had been properly called, we very well may have lost. I am not so enamored with my team that I ignore obvious truths like that. However, the challenge system was created for a reason. Childress had the power all along to fix the error and keep the lead, and he failed to do so. That puts that loss squarely on his shoulders.

    4. There is a big difference between beating a team a few weeks later; and a year later after offseason roster changes. There is a big difference between the Super Bowl and the regular season, and there is common knowledge that the Seahawks have historically been the most inconsistent sports franchise in North America. That argument is invalid, and quite frankly ignorant. I really expected better from you.

    5. I fail to see how I am a hypocrite. I’ve kept my same stand since day one. Please enlighten me. Also, the fact that my team wasn’t involved is hardly a negative.. It means I am an impartial, unbiased observer. A voice of reason, if you will. Of course, if there is one thing everyone here knows about you, it’s that you are ANYTHING save impartial and unbiased with regard to the Steelers.

  125. Deb says: Nov 25, 2010 1:03 AM

    @Beer Cheese …

    1. You have no idea what the generally accepted ideas in the country are on this issue because no scientific polling has ever been conducted on this issue.

    2. I simply love my team. But I don’t need to defend anything. We’ve got the trophy, and it’s not going anywhere.

    3-5. The NFL has acknowledged that officials incorrectly took points off the board in a game where the score differential was less than a touchdown. Yet you are still arguing the the impact. Points were taken off the board. This isn’t speculation. The Vikings actually won this game. Everyone but the Packers knows that. But you refuse to accept it. Since it doesn’t involve my team and the NFL made an official announcement, I’m being completely objective. And of course, if refs were paid off to throw our game, they were paid off to throw yours. But while you’re positive someone paid them to throw our game even though there’s zero evidence to support your irrational theories, you won’t believe the Packers bought their win … despite the blatantly corrupt calls made in that game.

    That makes you an unbelievable hypocrite.

    You live in Seattle and have been obsessed with your Area 51 theories about payoffs and Super Bowl XL since I’ve been on this site. No serious sports analyst supports your views, and neither does anyone who’s done a serious review of the game. I’ve criticized the Steelers on many occasions but won’t agree that my team bought a Super Bowl win because I don’t believe that happened anymore than I believe aliens landed in the Southwestern desert. Bad calls happen. For me, the worst call in SBXL was the Roethlisberger TD. It was a 3rd-down play. Had it not been ruled a TD, we’d have had the ball 4th and inches, and Ben had been 100 percent on sneaks at that distance. I’d give anything to have that one back because that visual is what’s set off ding-dongs like you. We’d have scored on the following play and you would be obsessing over something else … to someone else.

    Ah well … we all have our crosses to bear. At least your belief that you are a voice of reason is an amusing one.

  126. steelerdynasty2010 says: Nov 26, 2010 10:02 AM

    beer cheese,
    as soon as you make statements that suggest you believe there was a payoff (despite the fact that you have not one shred of evidence or proof that the refs CHEATED and CONSPIRED to do so. bad calls happen in EVERY GAME, not just steeler games), you cannot call yourself impartial.

  127. maximus929 says: Nov 27, 2010 2:21 AM

    Harrison knows that losers like him like company.

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