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Richard Seymour fined $25,000 for hitting Ben Roethlisberger

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Raiders defensive lineman Richard Seymour has been fined $25,000 for hitting Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger during Sunday’s game.

The fine is no surprise, as Seymour’s hit was a major cheap shot, an open-handed smack directly to Roethlisberger’s facemask long after the play was over. If anything, the surprise is that Seymour wasn’t fined more, or suspended.

That’s what this year’s poster boy for big NFL fines, Steelers linebacker James Harrison, thinks should have happened. Harrison pointed out that his $75,000 fine was for a helmet-to-helmet hit that happened in an instant, while the play was going on, while Seymour hit an opponent after the play was over.

So Harrison won’t be pleased to learn that Seymour’s fine is only $25,000. We’ll be curious to hear what PFT Planet thinks about the NFL’s discipline decision.

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194 Responses to “Richard Seymour fined $25,000 for hitting Ben Roethlisberger”
  1. gatorprof says: Nov 22, 2010 5:56 PM

    Nice to see Roger lose credibility.

  2. clock1is1king says: Nov 22, 2010 5:57 PM

    If this happened to Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, Seymour would be fined six figures and suspended for a game.

    The NFL’s two tier system has got to stop, it’s making the Front Office look even more idiotic than normal!

  3. huskerguy says: Nov 22, 2010 5:57 PM

    I think when Little Ben walked by Seymour he said he was purty asked to meet him in the bathroom and that is why he hit him.

  4. FinFan68 says: Nov 22, 2010 5:57 PM

    Harrison is right on this one. Seymour should have gotten a much stiffer fine. All the guys that throw punches or other similar cheap shots should be suspended the following game as well.

  5. mcsteeler says: Nov 22, 2010 5:59 PM

    What…….the………f*&%!!!!!!

    I hate to jump on the bandwagon of steeler fans forming a conspiracy theory that the league is against us, but come on. Seriously? 25K and no suspension?

  6. grendelg says: Nov 22, 2010 5:59 PM

    That’s total crap. It should have been at least $100K. The only rationale I can think of is that it wasn’t hard enough to hurt Ben, but still.

  7. djeg07 says: Nov 22, 2010 5:59 PM

    fine higher yes,
    dumb play yes,
    big ben getting hit…priceless

  8. birdmanbrownies says: Nov 22, 2010 6:00 PM

    if it happened to anyone else that wasn’t such a piece of sh*t he may have been fined more….bens a douche and deserves a smack in the face….que the ignorant inbred inept toothless steeler fans calling foul…despite being handed a superbowl by officials and many other games along the way they somehow think there is a bias……….and I haven’t met a real steelers fan that had every tooth intact in their head….the rest are obvious poser fairweather retards

  9. raider316 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:00 PM

    Ben asked Seymour if his daughter had a date for the prom yet.

  10. citizenstrange says: Nov 22, 2010 6:00 PM

    If James Harrison had punched Tom Brady in the face he would get a gajillion dollar fine and a lifetime ban.

    If ANYBODY punched Peyton Manning in the face AFTER the whistle the world would stop spinning.

    Seymour should AT LEAST get a game suspension without pay.

    YOU DON’T PUNCH QUARTERBACKS IN THE FACE AFTER THE WHISTLE.

    Goodell is a joke. There is no rhyme or reason to his punishments. The Patriots illegal headhunting gives an opponent’s receiver a concussion two weeks in the row and no flag no fine no BFD according to Goodell.

    James Harrison apparently tackled somebody too hard and gets a flag and takes a Steeler’s pick six off the board.

    Goodelll has absolutely zero credibility.

  11. phatsuo says: Nov 22, 2010 6:01 PM

    Sounds like Seymour treated Roethlisberger the way Roethlisberger treats women. He should have got a bonus, not a fine.

  12. brentfarve says: Nov 22, 2010 6:02 PM

    They need to review more than just this punch in the game. Seymour was playing dirty the whole game.

  13. eskinsux says: Nov 22, 2010 6:04 PM

    Dear PFT Universe….
    This is a public service announcement, call you’re investment banker this instant, and tell him to invest you’re entire portfolio in tissues, lots and lost of tissues, cause you know damn well those whiners are gonna be crying like a 3 year old who wants candy. Afterall, Stillers fans pay the player’s fines, or so one would tend to think…

  14. tiffpats4eva says: Nov 22, 2010 6:05 PM

    Good.

  15. clock1is1king says: Nov 22, 2010 6:05 PM

    http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?RemoveRG

    Remove Goodell…

    He is perpetuating a two tier system in football that should not exist.

  16. tmc4real says: Nov 22, 2010 6:05 PM

    Goodell is requesting all tapes of the incident be sent to the league offices for review/disposal.

    Seymour is still under the statute of limitations as a Pat.

  17. tiffpats4eva says: Nov 22, 2010 6:05 PM

    gatorprof says:
    Nov 22, 2010 5:56 PM
    Nice to see Roger lose credibility.
    **********************

    @ gatorprof,

    Please explain.

  18. bucks12965 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:06 PM

    There wasn’t sufficient DNA left behind.

  19. johntonioholmes says: Nov 22, 2010 6:06 PM

    So let me get this straight.

    Trying to hit a player legally, but failing to do so because the player moves is worth $75k.

    Cheapshotting a player after the play is dead is worth $25k.

    Goodell is a f@scist. I never truly believed what I am about to say, but I believe it now; he has an anti-steelers bias.

    Even if you hate the steelers, you should like this because Goodell will do the exact same thing to your team, if it’s politically expedient.

  20. steelersfbfan says: Nov 22, 2010 6:07 PM

    is anyone really surprised? all you can do is laugh anymore. this league is going down hill. whether you like the steelers or not, you have to admit, the league is so unbalanced it is pathetic! they should be ashamed of themselves!

  21. Caldon says: Nov 22, 2010 6:07 PM

    Yeah, I agree. A slap is much worse then a helmet to helmet that can leave a guy brain dead. Fine the guy 100K! The league hates the steelers!

    /sarcasm off

  22. holeinone09 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:09 PM

    @clock1is1king says:
    Nov 22, 2010 5:57 PM
    If this happened to Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, Seymour would be fined six figures and suspended for a game.

    * * * * * *

    I agree 100%. GODell is backed into a corner with his calculation of fines. Completely inconsistent, random and targeted to specific players/teams who he has a hard on for (ie for speaking out against him on his crusade). The fine should have been much more. And a suspension should have been considered. This was not a helmet to helmet hit made in a split second of trying to make a tackle on a twisting player. GODell just sent a message that it is not that expensive to just slug another player in the head after the play is long over. What if Ben would have been injured and couldn’t play? Great job, commish! You are a dope.

    GO STEELERS!!

  23. ArtModellsPimp says: Nov 22, 2010 6:09 PM

    Let’s see here…

    Punch Roethlisberger in the mouth and a charity reaps the benefits. Hmmmm……….

    The line forms on the right…

  24. trollaikman8 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:10 PM

    It was worth it.

  25. rhodeislandpatriotsfan says: Nov 22, 2010 6:10 PM

    Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger can clearly be seen on video walking up to Raiders DE Richard Seymour and saying something directly in his face. What did Roethlisberger say to Seymour? In his post-game presser, Roethlisberger answered, “Let’s get ready for the extra point.” If that isn’t taunting, then what is? So, why wasn’t Roethlisberger flagged? Is that the sort of “anti-Steelers bias” we’re accustomed to hearing some Steelers fans moan and groan about?

    Seymour clearly overreacted, and the decision to eject him was appropriate. The $25,000 fine is also warranted. On the other hand, I have a hard time buying the idea that Seymour would have cuffed Roethlisberger’s facemask without any provocation. But for “Big Ben’s” ribbing, Seymour wouldn’t have struck.

    P.S. Who’s the new No. 1 in the power rankings this week? As the English rock band “The Who” sings in their lyrics from “Won’t Get Fooled Again”: “Meet The New Boss. Same As The Old Boss.”

    Aren’t they singing about the New England Patriots?

  26. jmorand47 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:11 PM

    I think Seymour should have turned Ben upside down and just piledrove him into the ground. He wouldn’t have gotten a flag or a fine.

  27. johntonioholmes says: Nov 22, 2010 6:11 PM

    I meant to say that you “shouldn’t” like this because it means that Goodell makes up his own rules.

  28. dan39564 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:11 PM

    Wasn’t this player ejected from the game?
    That in itself should warrant a much stronger fine, and suspension!

  29. igottz5onit says: Nov 22, 2010 6:11 PM

    Yeah, goodell is a first rate a-hole.

  30. melikefootball says: Nov 22, 2010 6:12 PM

    Harrison got this one right. Oh if it had been Brady or Manning. I guess QB’s don’t deserve the same respect as a receiver. Also was way after the play and Seymour had done this before. I watched the replay wanting to see what all the commotion was about and Semour was also involved earlier in two pushing altercations. Showing more and more the league office up and down fines and what they feel is worthy of big fines.

  31. hey804 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:13 PM

    I’m cool with $25k. It was even a punch him, more of an open palmed swat and Big Ben flopped like an Italian soccer player. NFL knew what they were doing.

  32. laxer37 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:13 PM

    Harrison gets fined $75,000 for a hit between the whistles and Seymour gets 1/3 of that fine for a blatent hit after the whistle?

    The NFL front office has gone insane.

  33. hey804 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:13 PM

    “It wasn’t even a punch”

  34. patsfan says: Nov 22, 2010 6:15 PM

    VInce Young, “Hey Coach, why are you writing a check for $25k…”

  35. cincyorangenblack says: Nov 22, 2010 6:16 PM

    good, he deserved to be tossed in jail and punished w/more than a hard slap to the facemask….Hey James…You knocked someone unconscious…with your helmet….illegally….Seymour did cheap shot Ben, but it wasn’t anything worse than throwing a punch after a play (which last time i checked isn’t an additional game supsension) stopy crying you roided out piece of garbage…hahahahaha Thanks Richard

  36. nbcwantsitsmoneyback says: Nov 22, 2010 6:17 PM

    Having James Harrison “the dirtiest player in the league” screaming for Seymour to be suspended is like Florio saying other sites need to have journalistic integrity.

  37. pats1989 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:19 PM

    I love Richard Seymour but that was just a stupid hit. I personally believe there should at least be a suspension behind the fine due to the fact he was trying to injure another player after the play was over. Nice job being consistent with your penalties Commish Goodell! (idk if sarcasm comes across well when written)

  38. pdxbolt says: Nov 22, 2010 6:19 PM

    That seems a little low for a repeat offender…but I guess GODell knows what he’s doing.

  39. lebronsinsecurity says: Nov 22, 2010 6:21 PM

    $25k?? Seems a little light.. Still love watching the replay though.. Down like a sack of potatoes!! All in all, Ben’s teammates look pretty bad in this one.. Do something. Your guy gets knocked out by an open handed slap and you do nothing?? Besides run your mouth after the game..Doesn’t sound like the “tough guys” that everyone tried to portray them as..

  40. Satan's Valet says: Nov 22, 2010 6:22 PM

    As much as I think Ben deserves much more… it’s a classless thing to do, on the clock anyway. He should have been suspended and the fine increased significantly.

  41. veistran says: Nov 22, 2010 6:22 PM

    Wasn’t he ejected last year when they played Pittsburgh? I thought they were cracking down on repeat offenders.

  42. whynotusecommonsense says: Nov 22, 2010 6:24 PM

    I was expecting a larger fine too. A suspension? No. It’s not like he ripped his helmet off and decked him. Or…

    Maybe, just maybe the NFL after talking to several people, learned what Big Ben said to piss Big Rich off. Just because Ben said that he didn’t say anything doesn’t make it true. Ben’s word isn’t exactly gold in the NFL.

  43. pukey60 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:26 PM

    and what if it was Peyton Manning instead? The what?

  44. florihole says: Nov 22, 2010 6:26 PM

    about right. if he hadnt been ejected he probably would have gotten a one game suspension.

    it also was more of a shove than a punch, i mena, if he had really closed his fist & punched him it would have been a bigger fine/suspension

  45. smo05d says: Nov 22, 2010 6:26 PM

    this is mother freakin’ unbelievable. i’m super pissed. what the f***ing hell??!?!?!? $25k–that’s it??? after harrison got fined out his a** for a hit during the game — a BLATANT punch after the play is dead is only fined $25k??!

    Seymour has a HISTORY of this kind of action.

    The league supertastically SUCKS.

  46. steelersmichele says: Nov 22, 2010 6:31 PM

    birdmanbrownies says: and I haven’t met a real steelers fan that had every tooth intact in their head…

    Maybe if you got out of your momma’s basement you’d meet more people. Get a real job instead of browsing the internet all day with your pants off. Yep. I stooped low, but then again, you sound pretty low class, so I know I’m better than you.

  47. deelron says: Nov 22, 2010 6:32 PM

    While on a personal level I really don’t have any problem with Roethlisberger getting hit in the mouth, the fine is completely out of line in comparison to other fines handed out for events that occur during action.

    If Seymour had aimed a little better he might have knocked Roethlisberger out of the game with a broken jaw, what a cheap price to knock the other teams starting QB out.

  48. jmac1013 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:32 PM

    How was it a cheap shot? Big Ben went after Seymour.

    If Seymour had searched out ben and slugged him then suspension would have been acceptable. But ben went after Seymour and Seymour reacted; poorly as it may have been.

  49. joetoronto says: Nov 22, 2010 6:32 PM

    brentfarve says: Nov 22, 2010 6:02 PM

    They need to review more than just this punch in the game. Seymour was playing dirty the whole game.
    *********************************************************
    “Mommy, he’s playing dirty”, GTF out of here.

    Hey mofo’s, maybe the NFL knows the difference between a “punch” and a “slap”.

    Losers.

  50. steellion says: Nov 22, 2010 6:33 PM

    Wow…what a bunch of crap this is. So mad I actually finally registered for the site. How the hell can the commish not at least match Harrisons 100k penalty…that play was ridiculously flagrant. He really outta be suspsended a game, without pay, as well. God, the randomness of crap in the NF is really starting to piss me off.

  51. vasteel says: Nov 22, 2010 6:34 PM

    about what I expected,seymour is a former cheatriot and the coach of the cheatriots is a good friend of the commish.A pure cheapshot,he didn’t even have the nerve to walk up,look Ben in the eye and do it,a sucker punch.Why didn’t he do it to the O-lineman Ben was celebrating with,a punk move by a punk player

  52. snnyjcbs says: Nov 22, 2010 6:34 PM

    My “sources” tell me that Seymour received a personnel note from the Comish thanking Seymour for what he had done. People do not like a person that has been accussed of Rape and Molestation of a young Girl that has been rumored to have bought his way out of.

    Little Ben reacted and went down just as I would have expected a person of his character to go down, he is SOFT.

    Only 25,000, not even a slap on the hand, I love it.

  53. bnwpnw says: Nov 22, 2010 6:35 PM

    Where do I give to the Richard Seymour defense fund?

  54. steelersmichele says: Nov 22, 2010 6:39 PM

    Here is the thing–you can hate Ben all you want, but you have to look at the action of the game. If you can be somewhat objective and think “what if it was P. Rivers, what if it was A. Rodgers” would the punishment the same? I don’t think so.

    If it was Manning or Brady, would a $25,000 fine be enough? I know all of you hate Ben, and you have a right to. You think that action equals punishment for what he’s done off the field. Fine. Goodell made an example out of Ben with his suspension to scare other players, but what message does this small fine send to other players?

    Our next game is Buffalo. If our defense puts in a rookie who has never played before and he goes up to Fitzpatrick and punches/slaps him in the face and gets thrown out, what should his fine be? $5,000 for a first time offense. Is that right? Tha’ts what Goodell is saying…Maybe Mr. LeBeau should do it just to see what happens.

  55. cobrala says: Nov 22, 2010 6:41 PM

    Not that anyone needed more evidence, but further example of the common knowledge that Roger Goodell is a wanker.

    ‘Protect the shield’ from his butt.

  56. realitypolice says: Nov 22, 2010 6:41 PM

    Here is the difference between James Harrison launching his entire body head first at full speed into an opponent that he has admitted he is always trying to injure, and Richard Seymour hitting BR in the facemask with an open hand (it was NOT a punch, punches involved a closed fist in case you didn’t know):

    One could render someone a quadraplegic, one results in a QB taking a dive to get a penalty.

    I’ll let you guess which is which.

  57. reddog1955 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:42 PM

    Richard Seymour just made my list of *things I’m thankful for*!

  58. johngaltx says: Nov 22, 2010 6:43 PM

    Maybe Mr. Goddell gave Mr. Seymore credit for not using a closed fist when he struck Mr. Roethlisberger. As many hockey fans know, hitting an opponent in the helmet with a closed fist can cause broken knuckles and nasty tears on the hand. The open fisted slap is a much more cerebral form of smacking an opponent and therefore the fine landed on the low end of the punishment scale.

  59. brasho says: Nov 22, 2010 6:44 PM

    I suppose I like Seymour more, but that isn’t why I’m defending him here, I’m defending him because right after the play, Roethlisberger came up behind him and put his hands on him while saying something. Even in football, talk all the crap you want but if you put your hands on a guy after the whistle you’re asking to get hit. But here’s my other issue with it, it looked to me Seymour pushed him in his face with an open hand, not punched him.

  60. sofaking65 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:47 PM

    Birdman, two cities currently are tied for having the highest percentage of people with post-graduate degrees. Can you guess which ones?

    Washington, DC and Pittsburgh.

    So much for your “toothless, inbred Steelers fans” idea. Then again, given your screen name you’re either a Clowns or Ratbirds fan, two of the biggest “toothless inbred” fanbases in the league.

  61. footballisking says: Nov 22, 2010 6:48 PM

    Keep being a fraud there Goodell…the players will get the last laugh though because your dictatorship will end in Feb

  62. steeelfann says: Nov 22, 2010 6:48 PM

    Well, I guess by the basis of that fine, Goodell has opened the season up on smacking QB’s in the face after a play. Brilliant.

    Let me get this straight: Harrison is fined $75,000 for a football play where the receiver lowered his head at the same time that Harrison lowered his. Receiver got no fine. Harrison got a massive one.

    Then, Seymour (a repeat offender before this by the way, caught punching people after the play before among other “allegations”) hits someone in the face after a play, knocks them to the ground, and he gets $25,000.

    The league is officially out of control. Hines Ward had it right. He wanted to go in, and they would not let him. It is his life, not theirs. He knows the risks. This league is losing credibility. Rapidly.

  63. masterblaster78 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:49 PM

    The Steelers should be fined for running up the score. To bad Seymour didn’t deck the woman abuser later on in the game. Kudo’s to Seymour. GO RAIDERS

  64. smo05d says: Nov 22, 2010 6:50 PM

    shaninigans!

  65. gregbeau says: Nov 22, 2010 6:51 PM

    Ben provoked him and he went down like a sack of potatoes after a pretty minor slap.

    If Richard Seymour wants to take up a collection among his fellow competitors or even the general public to help pay his fine, I’m sure he’ll net a lot more than the amount he needs in no time at all.

  66. joetoronto says: Nov 22, 2010 6:51 PM

    pats1989 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:19 PM

    I love Richard Seymour but that was just a stupid hit. I personally believe there should at least be a suspension behind the fine due to the fact he was trying to injure another player after the play was over. Nice job being consistent with your penalties Commish Goodell! (idk if sarcasm comes across well when written)
    *********************************************************
    Trying to injure him by slapping him on the helmet?

    Your just pissed he’s not playing for the Pats anymore.

  67. minhw0714 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:52 PM

    This should put to rest the notion of a Steelers bias in the League HQ. $25K and no suspension is a joke.

    If the league won’t protect Big Ben, then they should’ve banned him for life. He is a member of their league and does have rights.

  68. feedonhate says: Nov 22, 2010 6:53 PM

    Really? Most of you think open hand slapping someone with a helmet on is equivalent to launching yourself helmet to helmet? The reprecussions of the latter being much more severe. Get your head out your collective asses. Kudos to the nfl for not going all nutty on this.

  69. obsession55 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:54 PM

    It was worth every penny!! Highlight of the weekend

  70. kelvinmchale says: Nov 22, 2010 6:54 PM

    The story says that Seymour hit Ben’s facemask, but he actually clocked him in the head. Post the video and you’ll see.

  71. mcthompso says: Nov 22, 2010 6:54 PM

    seymour was just sticking up for the many voiceless women who didn’t have the means to stick up for themselves.

    but really, james harrison is fined more b/c he repeatedly makes cheap hits and then whines about it, drawing an even bigger target on his back. harrison has a controversial hit in every game he plays in…maybe that is why he is “singled out.” he draws attention to himself every week, and then still doesn’t stop doing what he has been in trouble for.

    its kinda like the bourgeois hippie that drives a subaru with dead stickers all over it, then gets busted for weed. he draws attention to himself based on how he presents himself, and is more likely to get in trouble for it. he has a legitimate argument that he shouldn’t be in trouble, but is clearly breaking the rules as they currently are set out. both sides of the analogy include an idiot.

  72. essfjay says: Nov 22, 2010 6:55 PM

    That’s a fair enough punishment, it’s Ben’s fault for going behind the guy and touching him. This aint a bathroom at a bar big Ben. All joking aside this is fair enough, the Steelers were playing dirty that game Clarks hit on Jacoby Ford leading with his helmet? nuff said I don’t care if he hit him in the ribs you are leading with the helmet and looking to injure your opponent is unacceptable. Harrison is the dirtiest player in the game Steelers better hush or they might give ya boy another big fine and want to retire again. LOL.

  73. maximus929 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:57 PM

    Not that anyone has mentioned this but Roth. is a punk and everyone knows he’s a punk. I’m not saying Seymour should have hit him, But R. did put his hands on Seymour which in my opinion provoked this incident.

    The Raiders were getting beat down. You don’t rub it in by trying to get one of the Raiders to celebrate with you.

    Then Roth. the punk cries when he gets hit. booh0o.

    Has Seymour ever done this kind of thing before? No. He’s highly respected, not known as a dirty player.
    Harrison is a dirty player and can stop whining about getting fined now. It was a cheap shot, like a lot of his hits. It doesn’t make a big man to knock out a defenseless player.

  74. abninf says: Nov 22, 2010 6:58 PM

    Oh Lord that wasn’t even a punch. Society is becoming wussified. Rothburg should get an emmy for that one. Looks like everyone wants NFL players to become like NASCAR drivers. A bunch of pretty boys who’re all about PR. Penalty? Sure. 25 freaking thousand dollars for that is a joke.

  75. demolition510 says: Nov 22, 2010 6:58 PM

    Rich doing what Gooddell wishes he could do. It was a thank you.

  76. raidernation666 says: Nov 22, 2010 7:03 PM

    Bought stock in kleenex before the game, now I’m rich, thank steeler fans!

  77. Deb says: Nov 22, 2010 7:06 PM

    You’re curious to hear PFT Planet’s reaction? Seriously?

    Those of us who’ve been paying attention to Emperor Goodell’s inconsistent behavior will be stunned Seymour was fined at all (wonders never cease). But we’re still disgusted it wasn’t the $50,000 doled out to most egregious offenders during that first mega-fines weekend. The handful of objective fans of other teams will agree.

    The haters will blather the usual mindless nonsense.

  78. rayguyreturns says: Nov 22, 2010 7:07 PM

    Hell, it was the only decent hit we made in the entire game.

  79. wags7121 says: Nov 22, 2010 7:07 PM

    Seymour should get the congressional medal of honor. And a 25000 bonus

  80. sdpaulson says: Nov 22, 2010 7:09 PM

    Should have flagged Worthlessburger 15 yards as well on the play for instigating the whole incident by taunting/yapping/getting in Seymour’s face to start with. Notice how Ben only did it when he had his linemen thinking they’d protect him… hahaha! Served him right. I’d also think if Seymour got $15K the instigator should get $10K from the NFL office – you can see it on the replay. Ben doesn’t appear to be the sharpest tool in the shed. The real question will be: is he going to be smart enough to keep his pie-hole shut next time like a Manning, Brady, Breeze, etc?

  81. toddhaleystemper says: Nov 22, 2010 7:10 PM

    You steeler fan’s really need to get your heads examined. First off, what if it was Brady/Manning? It would never happen, because Brady and Manning has sense to NOT seek out someone 100 pounds heavier than they are and talk trash. Brady and Manning weren’t riding their motorcycle without helmets or raping women in the off season. Steelersmichele, you’re an idiot, now run along, big ben is waiting in the bathroom for you.

  82. pastabelly says: Nov 22, 2010 7:13 PM

    Roethlisberger flopped a bit and that hit didn’t put any player at risk of injury. In hockey, that’s a two minute roughing penalty. Maybe James Harrison really wants Rodney Harrison’s job. He’s a yapper.

  83. pittsburghsteelerz says: Nov 22, 2010 7:14 PM

    Complete BS.

    Should have been 100k + suspension.

    No credibility for Roger.

    Hey Roger Rabbit, what would the fine have been if t was your buddy Peyton?

    What about those 6 ridiculous (and phantom) personal fouls called against the Steelers Sunday?

    You’re a joke.

  84. ely03 says: Nov 22, 2010 7:15 PM

    @vasteel. Quit crying, keep supporting big B and his stupid decisions … big B deserved what he got and wait ” seymour apologized to his team, what a great teammate he is” taking out scum from other teams is a good thing … seymour you deserve a bonus!!

  85. johntonioholmes says: Nov 22, 2010 7:20 PM

    You Steelers haters a nothing but bags of sh t. Be a football fan, not a homer.

    That’s pretty much all there is to it.

  86. pastabelly says: Nov 22, 2010 7:23 PM

    nbcwantsitsmoneyback says:
    Nov 22, 2010 6:17 PM
    Having James Harrison “the dirtiest player in the league” screaming for Seymour to be suspended is like Florio saying other sites need to have journalistic integrity.
    ————————————————
    The players actually voted Hines Ward dirtiest in the league in 2009. Harrison is just working very had to replace him.

    A bit ironic criticizing Florio’s journalistic integrity in the rumors sections of this website. Let’s face it. People don’t come to this site to get straight NFL news. You come for Florio’s opinions and for rumors. So why criticize why you actually visit this site?

  87. 8man says: Nov 22, 2010 7:31 PM

    How much do I have to pay to hit Roethlisberger?

  88. tdk24 says: Nov 22, 2010 7:31 PM

    Let’s get ready for the xp? Yeah, sure Ben. Your team is too stupid to know what to do after a TD? Last I checked Ben didn’t play special teams anyway. He needs to quit talking smack and get to the sideline so his team doesn’t get flagged for delay of game. He got what he deserved. Maybe he’ll think twice about taunting a bull.

  89. fmwarner says: Nov 22, 2010 7:36 PM

    Calm down. If the fine was less, it’s partially justified by the fact that an additional penalty was levied on Seymour that was not levied on Harrison (i.e., ejection). Besides, even though this was a cheap shot, STOP pretending like Harrison was just trying to make a clean play and accidentally hit with his helmet. Just stop.

    The idea that the league has an anti-Steelers bias is right up there with other totally credible theories like the fake moon landing, OJ’s “real killer”, and Bush ordering 9/11. If the league had anything but affection for the Steelers and the Rooneys, they’d have actually done something about the fact that their ownership situation totally violated NFL bylaws.

  90. andyprough says: Nov 22, 2010 7:37 PM

    Ben is a tough dude. No real need to punish Seymour further – he didn’t really hurt him, just surprised him

  91. tobiasjodter says: Nov 22, 2010 7:38 PM

    Attention NFL:

    Your inconsistent application of the rules to the detriment of the Steelers is becoming more and more obvious.

    Exhibit A: Boley lands right on top of Romo and breaks his collarbone – no penalty.

    Exhibit B: Harrison lands on top of Gradkowksi – roughing the passer – ostensibly for falling on him “with the full weight of his body.” Despite the fact that it appears that Harrison put his arms out to try break his fall.

    http://photos.triblive.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=32826312&event=1121435&CategoryID=1121435

    You be the judge.

  92. belichickee says: Nov 22, 2010 7:41 PM

    He didn’t “punch” him, he shoved him. There is a difference.

  93. wudstoc says: Nov 22, 2010 7:42 PM

    All Richard did was show woman how to hit Little Ben and have him drop like a baby.

  94. villagoo says: Nov 22, 2010 7:43 PM

    Harrison fined over 10% of salary for what some in industry have at least questioned as a legal hit. Repeat cheapshot offender Seymour fined .20%. At least that idiot will rot away in Oakland for the rest of his career.

  95. JSpicoli says: Nov 22, 2010 7:45 PM

    For those on the suspension bandwagon, he lost a game and that counts as one. There is precedent, and it takes more than that to get a two game suspension.

    Now, I did think he’d get fined more, but maybe Gooddell figures Baby Ben had it coming.

  96. wegogreenbay says: Nov 22, 2010 7:52 PM

    I actually thought the b-slap was kinda awesome. Big Ben is a giant douche afterall.

  97. raiderfankirk says: Nov 22, 2010 7:52 PM

    It’s really simple. If you don’t want to get hit in the face then you should’nt talk trash and gloat to man is much bigger and meaner than you. Where is Ben’s fine for instigating the situation? I heard Al gave Richard a $50,000 bonus today. But seriously that was some funny shiznt. I laughed all afternoon about it and it took a little sting out of the game. Seymour just became my favorite player on the team. Go Raiders!!!!

  98. blitzburgh43 says: Nov 22, 2010 7:53 PM

    Please show me ANYWHERE where it was stated that Ben was trash talking or taunting. You can’t.

    And good Lord, the more I read this stuff on this site, the more I hate NFL newbies. There’s fewer people here that actually know anything about football than there are at a quilting bee.

  99. mtstrecker says: Nov 22, 2010 7:56 PM

    I’m curious – do they sell Steeler panties with the knots already in them or do you fans have to put them in there yourselves?

    I’ve never heard a team that WON the game bitch so much. Geez. Stop your whining. The only thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winner. You guys should trade for Philip Rivers – he fit’s your team persona perfectly.

  100. bbpats says: Nov 22, 2010 7:56 PM

    Awww the poor baby got slapped!
    Guess he got a lesson on what it feels like to feel helpless when someone bigger than you roughs you up a little bit huh?

  101. raiders757 says: Nov 22, 2010 7:59 PM

    He didn’t deserve to be suspended, so quit your crying Steelers fans. Just be glad you won the game and move on. Ben was mouthing off and deserved what he got. He even went out of his way to do it. All this crying just kills me, and proves why the NHL is such a superior league. The NFL is becoming a friggin’ joke.

  102. ampats says: Nov 22, 2010 8:05 PM

    Andyprough,

    Roethlisberger folded like a cheap table of cards, the same way the Steelers folded at home the previous Sunday night against the Patriots.

    Where is IAG and Frank Bollo and the rest of the faithful Steeler following ?

    Hanging out on Steelers Fury (what an oxymoron) fantasicinzing??

    I believe Seymour said when he b— slapped Little Ben, thats for all the women from the South.

  103. sunvalleyraider says: Nov 22, 2010 8:07 PM

    Cheap shot? That was no cheap shot. Little Ben chased down Seymour, who was walking off the field, from behind, planted his face mask in Seymour’s ear hole and taunted him. Rape-less-burger is fortunate he didn’t get his spine ripped out Mortal Combat-style. The fine is appropriate. And Squealer fans…you’ll get no sympathy belly-aching over phantom penalties or anti-Squealer bias among NFL officials on this thread.

  104. hardjudge says: Nov 22, 2010 8:17 PM

    Goodell needs to go, almost as much as the guy ruining baseball.

  105. benchokeshischikin says: Nov 22, 2010 8:23 PM

    Stay Classy Pittsburgh!!!!!

  106. goldsteel says: Nov 22, 2010 8:25 PM

    Rebuttals to Pointless Points
    1. Richard Seymour admitted to his team that Ben didn’t say anything.
    2. Do you know how strong Richard Seymour is?
    And if he hit all the he-men on this board the same way what would happen? All of you would be eating dirt.
    3. Not that this has anything to do with football but Ben hasn’t been convicted of anything. He hasn’t been charged. In the United States, one has to be proven guilty.

    Fire Goodell.

  107. steelers6pack says: Nov 22, 2010 8:29 PM

    Godell is a joke! His little henchmen or I mean refs are out against the Steelers. Lokk at Cincy game, Steelers blowing them out, then a low hit penalty and phantom pass interferance call and then the league says they were wrong. Constantly bad calls yesterday against Clark and Harrison. I want Seymour to do that to Brady,Manning, Romo or Favre instead of Ben and what woudl have happened? $50,000 FINE AND A SUSPENSION! Godell is inconstant in fines and suspensions its ridiculous!
    For everyoen suggestign Ben took a dive, let you get hit in face by a 6’6′ 350 lbs piece of crap and see what you would do! These are the same people who will sue someone after a fender bender saying they have whiplash! I can’t wait till Godell has to hand Ben Super Bowl MVP at Super Bowl this year!

  108. chace1986 says: Nov 22, 2010 8:31 PM

    WOW. This is complete BS. Im not a steelers fan btw. This pisses me off. I can now see that there may be a Steeler bias in the league office. once again. Wow.

  109. raiderapologist says: Nov 22, 2010 8:33 PM

    25 stacks and no suspension? That was a good deal, then. Oakland wasn’t going to win anyway, and it was only a matter of time before someone smacked Big Dufus in the mouth. Goodell probably glanced at the tape, signed off on the fine, and then went back to work propping up Mike Vick. Politics suck, Steeler fan. Too bad for you.

  110. packerfantastic says: Nov 22, 2010 8:35 PM

    I agree with Harrison. It’s hard to gauge intent on a helmet to helmet hit during the play but there is no question what Seymour’s intent was. Fine should have been more and perhaps even a 1 game suspension.

  111. steelerflash11 says: Nov 22, 2010 8:42 PM

    keep hating….till u get on our level (6 super bowls) u can just keep crying and wishing you had half the franchise we do.

  112. johntonioholmes says: Nov 22, 2010 8:46 PM

    Why is everyone so stupid?

    IT WAS A CLEARLY DIRTY AND ILLEGAL PLAY.

    If Roethlisberger was taunting him, it’s still dirty and illegal.

    According to both Seymour and Ben, he wasn’t taunting him.

    Yet, you stupid commenters don’t even have the intellectual cajones to verify the facts before you comment. There is no legitimate discussion with you A-holes.

    You all hate the Steelers so bad that it’s like communicating with a r@cist because you are so blinded by your own willful ignorance, that you can’t be reasoned with…

    I hope you all come down with an incurable case of pubic lice.

  113. halftermguv says: Nov 22, 2010 8:51 PM

    Steeler fans, save your breath on the handful of jealous pukes trying to provoke a response. If a Steeler had taken a cheap shot to an unprepared opponent they’d be screaming for criminal charges. When an opponent of the Steelers does it they’re slapping him on the back.

    They are frustrated and for the most part borderline morons. I’d like to see a single one of these chumps confront either Harrison or Roethlisberger in person. They’d crap themselves. Better yet come to the tailgate section outside of Heinz Field and mouth off…dare yah.

  114. eskinsux says: Nov 22, 2010 9:05 PM

    Stillers fans should be pissed, besides the fact they act as if THEY have to pay the steelers fines, 25K for bens bitch flop is more than their annual salary….

  115. dumbaseinstien says: Nov 22, 2010 9:10 PM

    More proof of the obvious. The NFL is trying to disenfranchise the Steelers & thier fan base. Someone with a lot of cash wants a lot more of the money made by the Rooney’s. I think this is a sports turf war.

  116. tiffpats4eva says: Nov 22, 2010 9:12 PM

    If the situation were reversed (Steeler hit the Raider’s QB), he would have been suspended and received a larger fine.

    The Steelers are being targeted. It would seem that Goodell would use this opportunity to actually clean up the game.

    Go Patriots!

  117. joetoronto says: Nov 22, 2010 9:15 PM

    Man, with all this crying going on, I hope we see the Steelers again this year.

    This is awesome, lol.

    Don’t stop, please.

  118. gatorprof says: Nov 22, 2010 9:26 PM

    tiffpats4eva,

    Basically everyone else here made my point. You cannot heavily fine people for hitting players in the head during the action of a game and then give a much lighter fine for a DL punching a QB in the face long after the whistle. Had the latter happened off the field, it would be an open and closed assault case.

    After this, it is difficult for him to come of as being an impartial disciplinarian. I would love to hear the rationale behind this decision.

  119. slickzmoney says: Nov 22, 2010 9:27 PM

    A bias against the Steelers in the league? You get more calls then Duke. STFU

  120. japdouds says: Nov 22, 2010 9:33 PM

    People say Steelers fans are crazy for saying the league has it out for them, but review the facts of this past year:

    Roethlisberger suspended despite never being charged with a crime, let alone convicted while other players were convicted of repeat crimes and received zero suspension.

    Harrison fined a ridiculous $75k for a hit between the whistles, while other players received far less punishment for multiple offenses.

    Steelers get apology from the league after multiple blown calls against them, then 2 weeks later they get flagged 19 times including 4 completely bogus personal foul calls including a helmet to helmet hit that was shoulder to lower back.

    Now, in the age of protecting QB’s and hits to the head the Steelers QB gets punched in the head unprovoked and the offender gets 1/3 the fine that Harrison got for making a tackle to break up a pass.

    Complete BS and Goodell is ruining football..

  121. therealfranchise says: Nov 22, 2010 9:35 PM

    Those who compare Seymour’s slap to Harrison’s hit are totally off base.

    Harrison INJURED a player due to an illegal hit.

    Seymour slapped a QB who obviously instigated the action, and was not injured.

    Also, if I remember right, an ejection from a game is a pre-rated loss of salary, so it cost Seymour more than just the $25k.

  122. 8dollarbeer says: Nov 22, 2010 9:40 PM

    mtstrecker says:
    Nov 22, 2010 7:56 PM
    I’m curious – do they sell Steeler panties with the knots already in them or do you fans have to put them in there yourselves?

    I’ve never heard a team that WON the game bitch so much. Geez. Stop your whining. The only thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winner. You guys should trade for Philip Rivers – he fit’s your team persona perfectly

    *******************************************

    You must be new to the site. They win, they bitch. They lose, they bitch harder. Ben rapes someone, they cry conspiracy, or she made it up.

  123. ravensrule says: Nov 22, 2010 9:44 PM

    Money well spent,,,,Steeler bias, thats hilarious. What about SuperBowl XL against the Seahawks,,,that was a gift. Go eat some more Steeler fan

  124. steelersmichele says: Nov 22, 2010 9:45 PM

    toddhaleystemper says: Steelersmichele, you’re an idiot, now run along, big ben is waiting in the bathroom for you.

    Thanks, but not an idiot. Masters degree from Hopkins and graduated with highest honors. Very good job in Baltimore. And if you knew how to read and saw my other posts, you would see I’m not defender of Ben’s actions off the field.

    But you must be one of those guys who don’t like it when a woman has an opionion that’s different than yours, and soon as they do you call them an idiot and make a joke about sex.

  125. 8dollarbeer says: Nov 22, 2010 9:45 PM

    halftermguv says:
    Nov 22, 2010 8:51 PM

    They are frustrated and for the most part borderline morons. I’d like to see a single one of these chumps confront either Harrison or Roethlisberger in person. They’d crap themselves. Better yet come to the tailgate section outside of Heinz Field and mouth off…dare yah.

    *******************************************

    Wow, cause intelligent people dare others to fight. What is this…? 3rd grade recess? Im smarter than you, legs fight at a tailgate. Hahaha and you call people morons???

  126. ravensrule says: Nov 22, 2010 9:47 PM

    Seriously, no need for a suspension. He already was kicked out of a game. If Seymour decked an O-lineman, nobody would even be talking about it. Lets stop pampering QBs

  127. japdouds says: Nov 22, 2010 9:50 PM

    Here is what the league has taught us through it’s fine and player conduct enforcement.

    1. You are better off punching a QB in the face unprovoked after he throws a td pass ($25k fine) than you are for hitting a receiver who is making a a catch to try and break up the pass ($75k fine). Both players repeat offenders.

    2. You are better off being convicted of multiple crimes than you are being accused but never charged.

    So NFL players, go out and get a DUI tonight, slap your wife, then punch Tom Brady in the mouth on Sunday after a play. You’ll be minimally penalized if at all…

  128. steelersmichele says: Nov 22, 2010 9:51 PM

    What’s funny is when Harrison hits another guy, everyone is up in arms calling for him to be suspended and saying he’s dirty. When another player does something dirty to a Steelers player, everyone’s opinion changes and they say the Steelers deserved it.

    Here is another interesting fact. Apparently the head referee from the game was from California, near Oakland (won’t mention the source because Florio won’t post a reference to another sports writer). In the Miami/Steelers game, other fans were furious that an official in the game lived near Pittsburgh and was biased towards the Steelers. Well, now that the tables are turned and one of the officials lived near Oakland, will those same people say that the official was biased towards Oakland? Probably not.

  129. atony831 says: Nov 22, 2010 9:51 PM

    It doesn’t say that Ben was taunting him because Seymour obviously doesn’t whine about stuff. Stop whining people…look at the hits that Harrison has made and the “punch” that seymour gave to Ben. Harrison’s hits have been much more aggresive and dangerous than the punch, more like a slap, that Seymour gave to Ben.

  130. exnflplayer says: Nov 22, 2010 10:11 PM

    I’m not a Steelers fan .But what they are putting up with is a crime . After seeing Richard Seymour’s cowardly act on Roethlisberger was the last straw . The Steelers and the Rooney family have always been one of the class acts of the league. The Steelers would have punished their own player. I’ve seen it .Do you think the Oakland organization is going to do anything to Seymour. And R.Goodell is showing his incompetence to run the NFL fairly . And to the Browns fans . Remember the Steelers and the Rooney family were the only team to vote no to the Browns moving to Baltimore . And fight the league to keep the Browns in Cleveland .In the old days The Steelers and the Browns have always been a great matchup. I loved watching them two kick each others ass .Some of the best games I’ve ever seen . Before the move that is .But the Browns are getting better . I hope they keep up the good work cause I miss those games .

  131. rabidbillsfan says: Nov 22, 2010 10:31 PM

    Yea he shoulda been fined more, however it falls within the guidelines of this type of offense. Also he’s not A complete tool box and atleast apologized unlike “headhunter harrison”. And furthermore there was no injury that resulted from this, it essentially was a b**** slap. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy………

  132. cup1981 says: Nov 22, 2010 10:32 PM

    Anyone who is comparing this to Harrison’s plays where he was fined is an idiot…

    Harrison was attempting to make a PLAY and the receiver ducked his head and Harrison attempted to get lower and contact happens, it was a MISTAKE you morons.

    For the person that said Harrison said “I play to injure people” misinterpreted his statement, he said “I play the game to hurt people, not injure them.” Every player wants to inflict pain on the other player, if not then you don’t need to be playing the game. No player, or at least most, do not want to injure people. Get it right before you post a moronic statement.

    As for Seymour only getting a $25K fine, I think that is pretty inconsistent on Godell’s part. To fine $75K for a hit between the whistles then to fine $25K for a slap/punch (an openhanded uppercut hurts just as bad as a closed fist punch) to the chin after a play. That is ridiculous, I would be saying the same if Harrison did that to Gradkowski and only got $25K.

    The NFL is becoming a joke with all of the fines and suspensions. They are completely inconsistent. Hit someone during a play is worse than punching someone after a play?? Hmmm…

  133. joetoronto says: Nov 22, 2010 10:44 PM

    gatorprof:

    No matter how much you cry, a slap to the helmet does not equal “a punch in the face.”

    Keep crying though. :)

  134. darthvincent says: Nov 22, 2010 10:45 PM

    just watched it again… if some dumb-ass QB comes up and puts his hands on me, I’d knock him down too.

  135. Deb says: Nov 22, 2010 10:53 PM

    @joetoronto …

    What’s hilarious–and disappointing–is any pretense of objectivity on your part. And it makes you a fool, which I find a little surprising. gatorprof has covered the Seymour issue beautifully, if you think you can get through his post between guffaws. This doesn’t have anything to do with Raiders and Steelers. If it did, we wouldn’t exactly need to whine, now would we? 35-3, despite all those penalties, is a decisive drubbing.

    This is about an unethical commissioner standing on the necks of a top-ranked defense to send a message to the league. And if you think the message is about player safety, you’re a bloody fool. This man has cut funding to spinal cord research and is trying to cut player health benefits. He’s trying to lengthen the season without a corresponding increase in personnel and byes. HE DOESN’T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT PLAYER SAFETY. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know that. Players aren’t getting more concussions now than they were five years ago. But now Congress has taken an interest, so he has to be seen to be doing something.

    Even so … why now? Why right now? Because this is about MONEY. It’s always about MONEY. His dream of European expansion isn’t going anywhere in this global economy. He’s saturated the American male market. He needs to attract more women and casual fans. High-scoring games = more casual fans = higher market share = MORE MONEY.

    Geez, wake up.

  136. Deb says: Nov 22, 2010 11:05 PM

    @8dollarbeer …

    Fans aren’t crying that a woman made up a rape story. The evidence and the authorities said the woman invented the story. There’s a BIG difference, jackass. And I’d love to know what team you support because men on almost every team in the league have been falsely accused of rape. In the Roethlisberger case, a woman had a one-night stand with the guy and texted her friends the next day that she couldn’t wait to see him again. A year later, she ran into financial trouble and sued him and her coworkers for $3 million claiming he’d raped her. The police said they have no evidence any crime was committed. Her text messages have been submitted to the court and Ben has countersued for defamation.

    The Georgia woman had a medical exam which showed she didn’t even have sex. It was all a scam set up by her sorority sisters and the DA said he hoped they’d learned their lesson.

    So instead of damning an innocent guy, why don’t you grow up and read up on what actually happened.

    Winning and losing on a football field is one thing, but players don’t get to go around punching other players in the face for no reason–AND SEYMOUR ADMITTED HE HAD NO REASON. That’s barbaric and not what we need to be teaching our kids. Since he was ejected, I’m okay with him not being suspended. But he should have been fined as much as other men are fined for what have been termed “illegal” hits. At least they’re trying to make plays at the time instead of simply assaulting someone on the field.

    Not one of you idiots slobbering about “whining” would be saying that if it were your QB who’d been hit. You’re only saying it because it’s the Steelers. And if you had any backbones, you’d admit it.

  137. Deb says: Nov 22, 2010 11:08 PM

    Since Seymour admitted Roethlisberger didn’t say anything to provoke him, why are all these Raider fans still claiming he did? Are they deaf or just stupid?

  138. joetoronto says: Nov 22, 2010 11:21 PM

    Bitch got bitch slapped.

  139. ampatsisahypocrite says: Nov 22, 2010 11:30 PM

    Ha ha, it figures ampats would try and connect the UNPROVEN allegations against Ben and this Seymour cheap shot. But I guess we should only be upset if ampats’s hero, Lawrence Taylor, is cheap shotted, because in ampats’s world, doing something with a 16-year-old GIRL is OK — it’s a guy who is with a 20-year-old WOMAN who is wrong.

    I will NEVER forget the day when ampats told us all to lay off the jokes with Lawrence Taylor, after screaming bloody murder about Ben because hey, ampats has a DAUGHTER!!!!!

    Go figure, huh?

    As for the NFL, what hypocrites too. (Seems we have a theme here.) Bust a guy big for committing a foul during play, lay off the guy for sucker punching a player AFTER the whistle. Makes about as much sense as ampats being OK with Taylor but not something Ben supposedly did.

  140. cowboyerik says: Nov 23, 2010 12:35 AM

    I would pay to see him get hit again!

  141. majikbullet says: Nov 23, 2010 12:42 AM

    Dumb move by Seymour….nice to see Ben get knocked on his tail though!!! I can’t stand that overrated QB!!!

  142. Pooped says: Nov 23, 2010 12:47 AM

    Double standard as usual. Goodell’s a tool and he’s lost credibility this year, at least in the eyes of objective football fans.

    The league needs a consistent and objective leader, not someone who’s going out of his way to send the message that the NFL is nothing but a business trying to make as much money as possible. I hope they get rid of him soon, he’s failed as a leader and his stupid plans to bring the NFL to other countries is ludicrous. Dbag.

  143. gopurplebirds says: Nov 23, 2010 12:51 AM

    Let’s see. James “Ike Turner” Harrison delivers head hunting cheap shots on a regular basis and all of the sudden becomes the voice of reason regarding Richard Seymour’s deserved smack in the mouth to Big Ben? Puh-leeze! I guess he’s ‘earned’ or at least paid for that right. Harrison is a head hunter and should be fined for even opening his mouth on the situation.

  144. Pooped says: Nov 23, 2010 12:55 AM

    If the QB were:

    Tom Brady — 4 game suspension/at least $50K

    Brett Favre (before he texted the chick his junk) — 4 game suspension/at least $50K

    Peyton Manning — 2 game suspension/at least $50K

    Eli Manning — 2 game suspension/at least $50K

    Philip Rivers — 1 game suspension/at least $50K

    Tony Romo — 2 game suspension/at least $50K

    Any other player in the league — 1 game suspension/at least $50K

    I smell BS. Harrison is completely right, he gets suspended $75K for a hit he can’t really avoid, and Seymour gets $25K for a pre-meditated cheap shot. F Goodell and his nazi mentality.

  145. thedudesnotin says: Nov 23, 2010 1:31 AM

    So if we don’t agree with the Steelers fans that say their is anti-Pittsburgh conspiracy by the NFL, we are haters.

    If we don’t agree with some of the Steelers fans on the Harrison issue, we must be idiots.

    Hmmmm…I would like to share my opinion on a few matters. After the Harrison fine of 75k, the NFLPA Exec came out and said he would look into the heavy amounts bein levied by the NFL. Did it ever occur to anyone here who is so hard up on thinking it’s a conspiracy, that maybe DeMaurice Smith actually got through to Goodell and had the fines lowered? And Seymours 25k actually might fall under the new directive?

    Secondly, Roger Goodell works for the owners. I am sure if the Rooney family were unhappy with Goodell, they have enough influence amongst the remaining Old Boys club to remove him from his position.

    Third, from the youtube video,( I will admit not seeing the play or game live) it looks to me that maybe Richard Seymour thought he was going after an Offensive Lineman, in the heat of the moment didn’t realise it was big Ben. Not to say what he did was acceptable, but, food for thought.

    Finally, what in blue blazes is up with all the whining from Steelers fans this season? Should we just petition the NFL to allow your team to win the Super Bowl every year just so you can brag about having a ring for each toe as well? I cannot believe how idiotic and uneducated alot of your fans sound. You are supposed to represent the best division in football, but, suprisingly you are out of your element. You are better then this.

    But I must just be a hater.

  146. majmalphunktion says: Nov 23, 2010 2:29 AM

    OK i’ll admit it. In the purity of the game, I agree that Richard should be fined more.
    My irrational emotional side loved it. Ben needed a slap upside the head after his off season. He is a creep, or at the least pretty creepy.

    Daddy why did that Defensive player who is paid to smash people hit someone out of emotion in the middle of a football game, the emotional game on the planet?
    Really? This is shocking? Just yesterday there was a number of meltdowns,(see the Titans for example…or the Vikings…) the only reason this was any sort of news was it was a QB, that most people hate who got jacked.

    As for the fine differential. Big Ben unless he is a spineless twit which I doubt- the guy took on a car once and lived to tell the tale, was in no jeopardy of injury from that open palmed bitch slap. 15 yards, ejected from the game a 25k personally seems reasonable.
    Spearing another player with your helmet has the potential to end peoples careers. The fine there is not the act, but the potential harm of the act.

  147. rebalynne says: Nov 23, 2010 4:16 AM

    I am a Steeler fan but not a Roethlisberger fan. Although I did laugh (out loud) about Ben getting decked in the face, it is too bad the fine wasn’t bigger. Roger, you are such a loser to only fine this guy 25,000. BTW, I love Tivo, I watched that hit probably 25 times, laughing.

    FLORIO, TELL THE GODELL THAT HE IS HATED BY THE FANS!!! (Yes, it’s Godell!) IT’S TIME FOR HIM TO GGGGOOOOOOOOOO!!!

  148. rebalynne says: Nov 23, 2010 4:24 AM

    Deb,

    Stop with your victim’s right crap! Nobody cares about YOU! You are probably lying anyways. Attention whore.

  149. joetoronto says: Nov 23, 2010 6:03 AM

    Deb: I don’t understand what how what you said about player safety has anything to do with Seymour’s slap to your QB’s helmet.

    The only way he could have gotten hurt was when he purposely fell down and faked injury.

  150. tiffpats4eva says: Nov 23, 2010 6:32 AM

    @ Deb.

    Good question. Maybe the Raider fans think Seymour is a big, fat liar?

  151. mcsteeler says: Nov 23, 2010 7:37 AM

    @rabidbillsfan
    “atleast apologized unlike ‘headhunter harrison'”

    The thing is, he didn’t. In fact, he specifically said he apologizes to his team but he doesn’t feel sorry to anyone else (mainly, anyone in the steelers organization).

  152. Rosenthals Speling Instrukter says: Nov 23, 2010 7:53 AM

    The funniest thing is that Steeler fans want Goddell fired and the Rooney’s would still vote to keep him on as commissioner.

    It is like a giant middle finger to the fanbase.

    Like when we re-started Ryan Leaf.

    LOL

  153. maddog111 says: Nov 23, 2010 7:55 AM

    such a joke that people are saying Ben instigated this and deserved this. Seymour himself said Ben didn’t say anything. Seymour was pissed off that his team was getting routed and he snapped. Plain and simple. For the love of God, you don’t think there is actual trash talking going on every play, every game? You can’t punch an opposing player, especially a QB, even if it is with an open hand.

    That being said, I don’t have a fine with the $25k fine. It does seem about right to me. What I have a problem with is arbitrary nature Goodell seems to use when handing out these fines. He feels no need to explain himself. He’s the czar and can do whatever he wants.

  154. cbass59 says: Nov 23, 2010 8:16 AM

    How much does James Harrison fined/suspended if he punched Tom Brady or Peyton Manning?

    Goodell’s done a great job of picking and choosing punishment on an inconsistent basis. He was handled a perfectly managed product (NFL) and has managed to make it worse. Can’t wait until he rewards England with a Superbowl.

  155. 6isgr8lamehaters says: Nov 23, 2010 9:12 AM

    @ thedudesnotin says:
    Nov 23, 2010 1:31 AM

    Dude – you clearly were “not in” front of your TV or at an establishment to see the BS officiating in the Raiders-Steelers game. Instead of commenting on something you didn’t see, why don’t you go smoke another doobie. You are clearly as clueless as you name. Just look at the posts from Raiders fans who did see the game and are in disbelief of the calls on the field.

    As a Steelers fan, but more importantly a fan of the NFL, I am disgusted by what God-Dell is doing to the game. If you are a true fan, you will take off your hater mentality, stop posting to Steelers blogs/boards just to vent because you root for an inferior team and franchise, and you’ll join the thousands of others requesting Mr. god-dell and his cronies become accountable to those who actually pay their fat ass salaries — yes the fans.

    The Steelers fans aren’t whining in this case. I am certain that if the NFL reviews at least half of the penalties called in Sunday’s game, they will either admit wrong or they will find a way to reprimand the lame crew that was on the field.

  156. 8dollarbeer says: Nov 23, 2010 9:29 AM

    Deb.. You are the biggest homer idiot on here. The Steelers do nothing wrong and every body picks on your poor team. The victim card is played out, get another angle.

  157. bdrunk says: Nov 23, 2010 9:37 AM

    25 grand is “fine” by me. BWAHAHA

    A suspension for Seymour does not help the Steelers win more games. With the Bolts surging at the right time, the Raiders are about to be irrelevant (again). Heck I’m happy with a dominating performance by the Steeler D in the wake of NE’s beatdown a week ago. I’ll take the W.

  158. 6isgr8lamehaters says: Nov 23, 2010 9:49 AM

    @ 8dollarbeer:

    Stick to the facts lame-O. You only pay $8 for a beer because admit it, you aren’t too bright.

    Deb’s points about the NFL, God-dell, the incredible bias against specific players and teams is not just a theory.

    Why don’t you get a 6-pack of $8 beers and sit and watch a re-broadcast of the Raiders-Steelers game this past weekend. You’ll have all the evidence you need as a hater that the officiating was probably as bad as it ever has been in the NFL.

    $8 dollar queer – Let’s get real. Deb, and for that matter other Steelers faithful, often admits and accepts the mistakes Steelers players make, their poor play or coaching in games, etc. We don’t just get onto boards to complain and whine as you and so many others haters “believe”. Most Steelers fans are a helluva lot more intelligent than you and your cronies combined.

    In case you haven’t, go online and take an IQ test. When you’re above 150, come back at me. Until then STFU and keep your stupid, hateful comments to yourself. Better yet, go post to a board that actually wants to listen/read your BS.

  159. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 23, 2010 9:49 AM

    Odd as it may seem, I’m with the Steelers fans on this one.

    $25k?? Pathetic. Randy Moss paid $25k for the horrible crime of… not answering media questions. Is Goodell going to claim that’s comparable to straight punching someone in the face, after fighting another player previously?

    This ain’t hockey. When the whistle blows, the violence should end (that means you too, Harrison). What Seymour did was reprehensible. There simply is no justification for it.

    However, the league issuing no more than a slap on the wrist for it is potentially far worse. People are going to see this, and they are going to seriously debate the merits of going and decking an opposing player or two themselves.

    This will happen again, it will happen this year, and when it does, Goodell will have no one to blame for it but himself.

  160. steelersmichele says: Nov 23, 2010 9:51 AM

    Interesting explanation that the league gave regarding the $25,000 fine. The reason why it wasn’t more and didn’t result in a suspension is because the league looked at it as a fight and not a flagrant hit.

    It was a fight. A fight. So all of you guys that are saying Ben fell down like a bag of bricks after a slap to the face are wrong–according to the league. They were “fighting.”

    And for those of you that say Ben’s a sissy for falling down so easily, do you watch any Steelers games? Two, sometimes three 200-300 pound defensive players can’t bring him down when he’s getting ready to throw, so you think a little slap to the face was going to bring him down? Yeah, he was being overdramatic and took a “dive” but who cares? No different than A-Rod Faking getting hit by a pitch this past season and getting first base because of it.

    Know what Ben got for faking a fall? He got Oakland’s best defensive player thrown out of the game. Not bad.

    Once again, Ben got away with something (sorry, bad pun intended)

  161. 6isgr8lamehaters says: Nov 23, 2010 9:58 AM

    @ Rosenthals Speling Instrukter says:
    Nov 23, 2010 7:53 AM

    The funniest thing is that Steeler fans want Goddell fired and the Rooney’s would still vote to keep him on as commissioner.

    ————————————————

    You’re just a classic hater, jealous and as envious as ever. For one, you need to realize the Rooney family went to Goodell to discuss Ben’s suspension and tried to convince him to reduce it to 2-3 games at most, for a crime he was never convicted of nor punished for by GA officials for obvious reasons. I don’t condone Ben’s behavior nor poor choices off the field, but Goodell clearly has it out for the Steelers.

    You and other lame-ass “fans” just don’t get it. God-dell is inappropriately putting a pacifier in the NFL and trying to improve the appeal by ensuring there are more points and less hits.

    Before you get your spelling correct, please at least get your “fakts” correct. The Rooney’s are not that pleased with Goodell, particularly after what everyone witnessed this past weekend at Heinz field. Or, wait, did you realize that Goodell made an appearance at Paul Brown Stadium to oversee the Steelers and try to help the Bengals steal another undeserved victory against their division rivals? Oh yeah, the NFL did admit to 2 huge officiating mistakes that nearly cost the Steelers the game. At least for the Raiders game, the lame calls only reduced the beating from 49+ – 3 to 35-3 as a final score.

    As I said to $8 dollar beer, go take an IQ test. When you surpass 150 … come back and comment. Until then, STFU and go to a board (not sure there is one) that wants to hear your BS.

  162. bobbyboogie says: Nov 23, 2010 10:07 AM

    The refs should be suspended.
    What a crappy game they called.
    the expulsion should have happened when 92 and 68 started slappin’ each other, but the Steelers got a break as they have only one back-up.

  163. bdrunk says: Nov 23, 2010 10:14 AM

    6isgr8lamehaters says:
    Nov 23, 2010 9:58 AM

    “As I said to $8 dollar beer, go take an IQ test. When you surpass 150 … come back and comment. Until then, STFU and go to a board (not sure there is one) that wants to hear your BS.”
    ————————-
    Isn’t a 150 IQ like Stephen Hawking level? That’s some pretty high standards!

  164. ampatsisahypocrite says: Nov 23, 2010 10:26 AM

    sunvalleyraider says:
    Nov 22, 2010 8:07 PM
    Cheap shot? That was no cheap shot. Little Ben chased down Seymour, who was walking off the field, from behind, planted his face mask in Seymour’s ear hole and taunted him. Rape-less-burger is fortunate he didn’t get his spine ripped out Mortal Combat-style. The fine is appropriate. And Squealer fans…you’ll get no sympathy belly-aching over phantom penalties or anti-Squealer bias among NFL officials on this thread.
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    More proof the Faiders have the DUMBEST fan base in football.

    Now for the facts.

    1. Ben wasn’t “chasing down” anyone — he was heading toward another of his lineman to celebrate the TD, as he always does. Seymour was in the way.

    2. The fine ISN’T appropriate, because there should be a suspension too. If Brady had been hit like that, Goodell would’ve sent down a SWAT team.

    3. Seymour hits like a girl. Matches the fan base well.

  165. majikbullet says: Nov 23, 2010 10:32 AM

    And I thought the Steelers were suppose to have great fans like the Cowboys and Packers, hearing this whining about the “league having it out for the steelers” makes me re think that image. I don’t agree with everything RG does, but come on you sound like Vikings fans crying over everything.

    Also, just heard on NFL Network that second offense violent act is a 25,000 suspension, they claim this was his second offense so there’s no argument, quit b****in Steeltown!

  166. jabagom says: Nov 23, 2010 10:40 AM

    Richard Seymour was out of line – his slap/punch to Ben was uncalled for and totally classless.

    There are a lot of stillers fans upset that the raiders’ thug got less of a fine then the stillers’ thug – LOL – what difference does it make? They are both thugs that are ruining the NFL with the prima donna attitudes and total disregard for playing the game by the rules.

    A thug is a thug and thugs are ruining the NFL

    Quit you bitching and whining – wipe the tears off your pathetic faces with your crying towell.

  167. thedudesnotin says: Nov 23, 2010 10:41 AM

    @6isgr8lamehaters says:

    “Dude – you clearly were “not in” front of your TV or at an establishment to see the BS officiating in the Raiders-Steelers game.”

    I thought I made that point clear enough in the original point. I guess you missed that, but since you have an IQ above 150, I guess it’s all good. Besides, we are commenting on one inexcusable play and subsequent fine to Richard Seymour and not the whole game, so try to keep up.

    @6isgr8lamehaters says:
    “As a Steelers fan, but more importantly a fan of the NFL, I am disgusted by what God-Dell is doing to the game. If you are a true fan, you will take off your hater mentality, stop posting to Steelers blogs/boards just to vent because you root for an inferior team and franchise, and you’ll join the thousands of others requesting Mr. god-dell and his cronies become accountable to those who actually pay their fat ass salaries — yes the fans. ”

    So profootballtalk.nbcsports.com is a Steelers blog? Trust me, if I had known that, I wouldn’t have signed up. I would stay away.I wouldn’t have commented.So much for free speech. You may not agree with me on my points, which I am fine with. I come here to talk football. Afterall, it is a messageboard.

  168. bobbyboogie says: Nov 23, 2010 10:42 AM

    The League needs to clean up many things
    Events such as suspensions and or appeals need to be heard from a panel elected by current veterans.
    They need to be able to define events such as bad techniques, or dirty shots.
    They can deliberate and decide if the fight was mutual or one sided.
    Did a player defend his QB from a big as Lineman?
    Was there retaliation.
    Then a table of defined penalties, including fines, suspensions, and escalator penalties for second, or habitual offenders can be applied.

    While we talk about this game…
    Coaches should be able to Challenge bad calls.
    A central NFL crew should deal with those calls, rather than the refs who might be having a bad day, such as the case in Pittsburgh on Sunday afternoon.
    And while we are talking about challenges…
    Coaches should get two challenges. None of this “if two correct, then a third. Given”. If the call is reversed, AKA the challenge succeeds, the coach continues to hold two challenges. If the call is up-held, he loses his challenge and he also loses a time out.
    Get rid of the auto review in the last two minutes. Let the coaches use their challenges judiciously.
    And maybe… he must have a time out to make a challenge, except in the last two minutes, but the clock must run off 30 seconds if the call is not reversed.

  169. steelersmichele says: Nov 23, 2010 11:06 AM

    majikbullet says: just heard on NFL Network that second offense violent act is a 25,000 suspension, they claim this was his second offense

    What is a 25,000 suspension? This was his third fine, second ejection for fighting, so what does that explanation mean?

    thedudesnotin says: So profootballtalk is a Steelers blog?

    Have you seen the most commented posts so far this season? They are Steelers articles (not that it makes me happy) because apparently Florio’s goal is to get as many posts as possible and putting “Steelers” in the title accomplishes his goal.

  170. mybuttsayspft says: Nov 23, 2010 11:27 AM

    There’s a specific fine schedule for fighting. This was his second offense, which the schedule says is 25k, not sure why you steeler fans can’t comprehend this. Yes, if he tried to kill a guy by spearing him with his helmet ala every steelers player he probably would have been fined 75-100k. Give it a rest steeler fans.

  171. mjdkid100 says: Nov 23, 2010 11:30 AM

    #
    citizenstrange says: Nov 22, 2010 6:00 PM

    If James Harrison had punched Tom Brady in the face he would get a gajillion dollar fine and a lifetime ban.

    If ANYBODY punched Peyton Manning in the face AFTER the whistle the world would stop spinning.

    Seymour should AT LEAST get a game suspension without pay.

    YOU DON’T PUNCH QUARTERBACKS IN THE FACE AFTER THE WHISTLE.

    Goodell is a joke. There is no rhyme or reason to his punishments. The Patriots illegal headhunting gives an opponent’s receiver a concussion two weeks in the row and no flag no fine no BFD according to Goodell.

    James Harrison apparently tackled somebody too hard and gets a flag and takes a Steeler’s pick six off the board.

    Goodelll has absolutely zero credibility.

    ——————————————
    Agree with everything but the Patriots comment. Ward ran into Sanders face mask. As for Collie, he’s clearly pretty fragile.

  172. mjdkid100 says: Nov 23, 2010 11:32 AM

    Wes Welker was once fined $10,000 for making a snow angel in a game. Stop crying about Goddell favoring the Patriots…whiners.

  173. thedudesnotin says: Nov 23, 2010 11:42 AM

    @steelersmichele says:

    “thedudesnotin says: So profootballtalk is a Steelers blog?

    Have you seen the most commented posts so far this season? They are Steelers articles (not that it makes me happy) because apparently Florio’s goal is to get as many posts as possible and putting “Steelers” in the title accomplishes his goal.”

    I was responding to the other guys post about coming into a Steeler blog and commenting when he clearly thinks I shouldn’t. I honestly thought this is an all NFL discussion forum and not a Steelers one. Maybe I missed the guys attempt at sarcasm, I will admit.

    I get the whole Florio trying to illicit responses, for which you have said you don’t like, but I still see you and others taking the bait, so why get all hot under the collar about it? The AFC North division has probably the most passionate fans. Florio knows this, and will continue on with his fire starting headlines.

  174. tiffpats4eva says: Nov 23, 2010 11:52 AM

    @citizenstrange

    Agreed. As a Pats fan, I already know that Harrison would have to pay the league $15 million if he punched Brady in the face after the whistle. I wouldn’t be surprised in the FBI is called into investigate.

    If James Harrison hit Peyton (the NFL’s Golden Boy), the world would stop spinning and perhaps military forces would be called up for an invasion.

  175. orangeandbrown19 says: Nov 23, 2010 12:43 PM

    I am new to posting on this site and I have learned quickly the power of the censorship that may or may not go on here, however, I will say this:

    On Thursday, I will give thanks for:

    1. A highlight for the ages watching Seymour do what so many mistreated women have wanted to do for roughly a year now to “big ben.”

    2. Enjoying “Cher”rison cry foul over a fine for an illegal hit on a defeseless player.

    Also worth noting: If Seymour hits like a girl, what exactly does that say about “bb” crumpling like an accordian when the “girlish” blow hit him in the beak…?

  176. rhodeislandpatriotsfan says: Nov 23, 2010 1:36 PM

    Without a doubt, the most ludicrous statements on this thread relate to the belief among some posters that league officials have hatched this vast anti-Steelers conspiracy (reminiscent, I suppose, of that “vast right-wing conspiracy” theory). Such a claim is not only unsubstantiated, it simply doesn’t comport with common sense. Why would the NFL turn against one of its most storied and successful franchises in league history?

    Don’t confuse the NFL’s commendable—though overdue—effort to enforce existing rules against helmet-to-helmet and other head-related hits with a repudiation of the Steelers’ proud tradition/style of physical play. While I agree that the league has on occasion been inconsistent both in its interpretation and application of the rules/fines, it’s quite a stretch to claim that the Steelers are being singled out. I understand you guys and gals are pissed, but you’re much smarter than that.

    Regarding Seymour’s one-sided “boxing match” with “Beg Ben,” it’s beyond controversy that what Richard did was indefensible. It was worse—though less dangerous—than what the league concluded Steelers OLB James Harrison did. As a result, Seymour was disqualified, and Harrison was not.

    Finally, I’m trying to figure out what set Seymour off, aside from the fact that the Raiders were getting their collective asses kicked. Realistically speaking, would a player belt another player just because he was losing? If so, then the league should have tacked on a one-game suspension for Seymour. On the other hand, the Associated Press reported that Seymour “would not divulge what Roethlisberger said to provoke him, calling his response a ‘natural reaction.’” Not saying whether he was provoked, as opposed to saying he was not provoked, are two different things. “I heard that Big Ben said something,” the AP quoted Raiders DT Tommy Kelly as saying. “I guess Big Rich didn’t like it.”

  177. bdrunk says: Nov 23, 2010 2:25 PM

    orangeandbrown19 says:
    Nov 23, 2010 12:43 PM
    I am new to posting on this site and I have learned quickly the power of the censorship that may or may not go on here, however, I will say this:

    On Thursday, I will give thanks for:

    1. A highlight for the ages watching Seymour do what so many mistreated women have wanted to do for roughly a year now to “big ben.”

    2. Enjoying “Cher”rison cry foul over a fine for an illegal hit on a defeseless player.

    Also worth noting: If Seymour hits like a girl, what exactly does that say about “bb” crumpling like an accordian when the “girlish” blow hit him in the beak…?
    ————————————-
    Welcome to PFT new guy.

    1) Grats, with this statement you’ve already outed yourself as an idiot. Nothing you say from here on out can be taken seriously, even by other fans of non-Steeler teams. Your best bet is to sign up with a new username and start over.
    2) “Cher”rison hasn’t cried foul over his fine since the week it was handed down.
    3) LOL! clever what you did with James Harrison’s name, putting a “Cher” in front of it. Are you saying he’s a bit girlish? Ask Josh and Moses about that.

  178. bdrunk says: Nov 23, 2010 2:46 PM

    “Ask Josh and Moses about that.”

    Oops. Meant Mohamed instead of Moses.

  179. radrntn says: Nov 23, 2010 3:13 PM

    If somebody gets kicked out of a game for somebody “taunting” them in their face, they deserved to get bitch slapped. Whats a bigger joke is how you can knock somebody out with your helmet and not get kicked out of a game…..or even worse do what the steelers did on sunday and make a blind side hit, take out a guys acl which ends his season, and only get a 15 yard penalty…….after watching the steeelers play sunday, I have never in my life seen an o-line hold, grab, and pull d-lineman to the ground on almost every play, and watch the refs let them get away with…….gotta wonder how good are the steelers really if the refs didnt turn a blind eye on how their o-line plays.

  180. orangeandbrown19 says: Nov 23, 2010 4:18 PM

    I appreciate the response to this “idiot’s” post. I am reminded of the addage: Takes one, to know one.
    However, I do not want to get into a he said/she said banter…
    I was not referring to Harrison as a girl, I was responding to an earlier post that stated that Seymour hit like a girl. I just used the “Cher” technique for asthetic value.
    And your comment regarding “asking Josh or Mohammed” is about right for someone who would back the likes of Harrison, “bb”, or the shampoo commercial, or anyone who is involved with a ‘thuggish’ organization led by an “Omar Epps” stunt double…. I am just saying though, as an idiot..
    And finally, it is rather difficult for me to believe that this site is nothing more than a venting platform for “arm-chair” quarterbacks like ourselves to make a few points that the other drunkards at the local tavern wouldn’t listen to on Sunday. So thanks, bdrunk for the warm reception, I rather like it here now… Oh and can you pass me another beer because I really wanna “be drunk” so I can be taken far more seriously….

  181. orangeandbrown19 says: Nov 23, 2010 4:22 PM

    And lastly, I forgot this earlier, What sort of offensive line lets a guy like Seymour “b*$^h” slap their quarterback and get away with it?
    I think the answer to what sort of “character” lies within those like “bb”, “Cher”isson, and the posterboy for dandruff, oh, wait, there was a “marijuana” posterboy as well once on this organization, wasn’t there? might be found in the question. Maybe the O-line is tired of “bb’s” nonsense too?
    Stay classy, Pittsburgh….

  182. fmwarner says: Nov 23, 2010 6:57 PM

    rhodeislandpatriotsfan,

    Your informed, reasoned, nuanced post clearly has no place on this board.

    Seriously though, great job. The only thing you got wrong was asserting that the Steelers conspiracy lot are “smarter than this”. To a man (or woman), they’re consistently ignoring the fact that Seymour was ejected and Harrison was not. Before you go crying about an imbalance in the fines, please remember that both elements factor into the total punishment.

  183. Spoonthis says: Nov 23, 2010 8:20 PM

    Here’s my issue with GODell’s fine schedule. If a player feels like they can punch / slap a QB in the face after a play and only get a $10k fine for the first offense, why wouldn’t they do it? The player will make a lot more than $10k if they make the playoffs. So knock a QB out of the game (not that this is what happen this Sunday with Ben but I am making a point) with a cheap shot after the whistle and basically get a slap on the wrist. Why wouldn’t every team start employing a goon, just like hockey, to rough up the other team’s QB after the whistle with cheap shots. The second fine will only be $25k. Still pennies to these NFL players. Basically GODell is condoning this action by Seymour.

    And here is my bigger point. The Raiders suck. They have beat teams from the AFC west (wow, great accomplishment) and the NFC west (possibly sending a 7-9 team into the playoffs). You Raider honks need to shut up and accept your ass whopping from Sunday. You were spotted over 160 in penalties and couldn’t score more than 3 points. The Steelers even had points taken off the board. Maybe Tom Cable should have taught Seymour how to throw a punch with a closed fist. Long live the Crypt Keeper, keeping the Raiders out of the playoffs forever.

    Go STEELERS>

  184. radrntn says: Nov 23, 2010 9:32 PM

    @spoonthis

    your o-line sucks, and you are just lucky the refs didn’t call holding on every play….it seems in Pittsburg blocking is known as holding, and the refs allow it……I wish we had the refs on our side…….and glad we are not dirty players, we smack you starit up in your face, and you fall like little girls, or you do blindside hits that take out acl’s………Steelers won’t go anywhere this year…GO RAIDERS, it would be nice to see Pitt as a wildcard team, and have to come to Oakland to play again in the playoffs…….

  185. goldsteel says: Nov 23, 2010 9:38 PM

    Seymour hits like a girl? How would any of you know? He hits Ben’s jaw with the heel of his hand. You know the part that’s connected to the forearm. If Seymour had hit any of you like that your head would still be spinning.

    And the Steeler left guard, Chris Keomautu, grabbed Seymour. The two of them had to be separated.

    Fire Goodell.

  186. Deb says: Nov 24, 2010 12:57 AM

    @mybuttsayspft …

    Just as you didn’t fact-check on Roethlisberger’s cases, you didn’t fact-check on fines. The commissioner has the discretion to raise those fines if he chooses. Since everything you’ve posted so far is inaccurate, perhaps you should quit while you’re behind.

  187. Deb says: Nov 24, 2010 1:09 AM

    @8dollarbeer …

    If that’s what you got out of my post, sorry to be blunt, but you’re not bright enough for me to bother.

    @joetoronto …

    See response to 8dollarbeer … both surprising and disappointing in your case. As I pointed out before, we have no reason to whine. We’re 7-3, second best record in the league and we routed our opponents this weekend. I don’t believe the officials are part of some grand anti-Steeler conspiracy. But some ludicrous calls were made in that game–including two taking points off the board for us. Removing people from the pile in a fumble scrum. Are you kidding? I’d love to see your reaction if that had been called on your team after you’d had two TDs called back and lost nearly 100 yards in bizarre personal foul penalties.

    The Commissioner is playing games with the game. At the moment, he’s using the Steelers as his object lesson. The officials in this game were just following the party line. If Goodell wanted to send a clear message that he has not been behaving inconsistently, he would have given Seymour a punishment comparable to those given other players–for instance, Randy Moss, who was given a higher fine for refusing to play nice with the press than Seymour was given for punching a player in the face. But Goodell didn’t try to do that. That’s because he has an agenda and is sticking with it.

    Try to take off your hate blinders and focus on the BIG PICTURE issues, which don’t involve just the Steelers.

  188. mey3323 says: Nov 24, 2010 1:32 AM

    God its amazing how ignorant people are, you people say ben deserved to get hit but than again who the heck are you nobody’s to say he deserves to get hit I don’t think ben deserved to get hit no one does, you people judge ben as if you know him but than again who are you guys to judge him you should look at your imperfections cause nobody’s perfect! Everyone hates on ben and the steelers why cause there a really good team hate it or love it and everybody chooses to hate it and we all know that there’s no comparison the raiders suck and its true!! It hurts you fake ass raider fans and you can say all you want about the sterlers but deep down we all know the truth they do have 6 superbowls and that’s what hurts you and like they say if you have people talking and hating you than you must be doing something right get over ben already! Get off the guys ass already and what that richard seymour did was so ghetto and ignorant like they say you can take the guy out the ghetto but you can’t take the ghetto out of the guy! Hahaha you guys lost get over it anyways you should be use to it! Stop hating on the steelers already get over it!

  189. CKL says: Nov 24, 2010 5:29 AM

    I sure hope that wasn’t a Pats fan who said Seymour doesn’t whine. I got sick of his effing whining and complaining all the time about everything when he was on the Pats. In my mind he was far bitchier publicly than Moss ever was and I wasn’t a Moss fan either. I contemplated sending Seymour a fake coupon for a lifetime supply of Midol. I always referred to him as “B*tchard”. One example: I was SUPER pissed when I heard he was taunting the NYG players about coming to the Pats victory party while the Pats were still trying to win the SB. IT’S THE EFFING SB YOU@$%!$@^. SHUT.THE.EFF.UP. He’s a punk. So let’s just say that a) I am not surprised he did this and b) I have zero sympathy for him even though I hate BR also.

    I thought the fine and the ejection were exactly the right punishments myself considering I have seen some nasty hits that garnered only $7,500 fines. It’s hard to argue with the dumb and seemingly random nature of fines though. Ocho or TO (forget which one) gets fined about 20 large for tweeting too close to a game but a physical altercation is only 5 k more??? WTF? Tweeting should be 5 k, physical altercation like this 25 k. The whole “safety concern” thing looks pretty dopey Roger when your fine schedule is tougher on tweeters than it is on twits.

  190. Spoonthis says: Nov 24, 2010 7:26 AM

    @radrntn

    You make no sense. You say the Steelers won’t go anywhere and then you talk about them making the playoffs. Raiders aren’t gonna make the playoffs. Your a dreamer though. The AFC wild card team will need to be 11-5 not 8-8 to get into the playoffs. Which blindside hit that took out someone’s ACL are you referring to? Then you say that you don” have dirty players but you just smack people in the face. You just spew stuff out of your mouth with no factual basis. How many penalties were called against both teams in that game? Pit 14 for 163 yds / Jokeland 7 for 55 yds. Oh ya, sounds like the refs were really out to get your team.

    Now go crawl back into your black hole and try to think of something else stupid to post.

  191. bdrunk says: Nov 24, 2010 11:03 AM

    orangeandbrown19 says:
    Nov 23, 2010 4:18 PM
    I appreciate the response to this “idiot’s” post. I am reminded of the addage: Takes one, to know one.
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    Your posting makes your idiocy easy to spot. And you’re welcome.

  192. 6isgr8lamehaters says: Nov 24, 2010 11:44 AM

    @ rhodeislandpatriotsfan says:
    Nov 23, 2010 1:36 PM

    “Without a doubt, the most ludicrous statements on this thread relate to the belief among some posters that league officials have hatched this vast anti-Steelers conspiracy (reminiscent, I suppose, of that “vast right-wing conspiracy” theory). Such a claim is not only unsubstantiated, it simply doesn’t comport with common sense. Why would the NFL turn against one of its most storied and successful franchises in league history?”

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    If you actually watched the Raiders game (which I am certain you didn’t), or if you perhaps rewind to the Bungles-Steelers MNF match up, you might actually find some evidence pointing in the direction of those who believe there is at least the makings of a conspiracy. If you had watched the Steelers-Raiders game this past weekend, as an intelligent fan, you would certainly question what the hell is going on with the black and white stripes throwing flags for barely touching QBs, phantom breaking up the pile moves, WRs going OB and then drawing PI calls, etc. It was as lame as I’ve ever seen and not because it was the Steelers.

    The simple point the Steelers fans are making is that God-dell is a DONKEY. The inconsistencies, lack of an independent review of specific hits, the lame ass officiating on the field … all of this needs to be addressed by someone other than God-dell and has frickin’ cronies. He’s a joke of a commissioner.

    Although I’m not too confident the outome will be different, I hope we meet again in the post-season. Yes – based upon the cream puff finish for the Pats schedule, the Pats will have home field advantage, but hell we can’t beat you in Heinz field and every streak must come to an end at some point. I do know that LeBeau won’t sit back and play coverage next time and do know that the Steelers will play a helluva lot more physical in the next matchup. Not that William Gay will do anything other let your TEs run right through and past him for TDs, but hell I think our next matchup will be a helluva lot more competitive.

    Enjoy the easy schedule. Hope to see you in January in snowy NE.

    GO STEELERS!

  193. mcthompso says: Nov 24, 2010 9:25 PM

    i need to add something…that hit on massoquoi was not legal at all. massoquoi ducked his head…but he was going helmet to helmet off his feet anyway. dude weighed more than massoquoi by like 60 pounds and mass. was going over the middle. the dude was trying to get a cheap shot like he always does. he’s dirty. the steelers are dirty…i like that about them…but all this sniveling is really taking that tough guy persona away from them.

  194. nuclearwarfare says: Nov 28, 2010 11:00 AM

    Who cares? That punch to the face was well-worth the loss by the Raiders. AND I’M A RAIDERS FAN!

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