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League slams union’s tactics

Roger Goodell

In response to the NFLPA’s latest effort to bang the drum about a lockout that the union is poised to block via decertification, the NFL has taken off the gloves regarding the time being spent on matters other than working out a new deal.

Here’s the full text of the statement issued Tuesday by the NFL, and posted at NFLLabor.com:

“Now that the union leaders have concluded their decertification ‘going-out-of-business sale,’ arranged for form letters to be sent to NFL owners by other unions, and issued press releases about their letter-writing campaign to mayors and governors, we are hopeful that they might find more time to talk to us. The union’s request for state and local political leaders to intercede in the negotiations ignores and denigrates the serious and far more substantial problems that those leaders, and that state and local workers across the country face.  We can resolve our own issues as we have done many times in the past but the NFLPA has to want to participate in resolving them.

“Every governor, mayor and state legislator understands the need to balance revenue and labor costs. That is why all over the country state, county and municipal employees are facing layoffs, salary cuts, benefit reductions, and other changes in working conditions far more severe than anything proposed by the NFL in these negotiations. In fact, NFL player compensation has doubled over the past decade and will continue to grow under our proposal. And we have offered to increase jobs and improve benefits.

“Nobody — least of all NFL owners — wants to shut down our business.  The best way to ensure uninterrupted NFL football in 2011 is for the union to stop asking everyone else to solve its problems and to sit down and engage in serious, constructive bargaining. If the union does so, we can and will reach an agreement.”

And so there it is.  The NFL has done exactly what we’ve said the union should be doing.  Demanding that the two sides focus their efforts on negotiating a new labor deal.

I’ll be sitting in for Dan Patrick on Friday, and joining the show will be NFL outside labor counsel Bob Batterman and NFLPA spokesman George Atallah.  We’ll be asking them why there haven’t been more direct talks, and when we can expect them to lock themselves in a conference room at a five-star resort for three or four weeks of uninterrupted negotiations.  At a time when fans are enjoying a wide-open scramble for playoff positioning, we all need to realize that the labor talks are approaching the two-minute drill, and that neither side has displayed the cardiovascular endurance necessary to deliver an accord.

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  1. domeunit says: Nov 24, 2010 9:01 AM

    DeMaurice Smith is going to be the reason we have a lockout. He’s a jackass who should’ve never been involved in the first place, and he’s going to do nothing but hurt the most popular sport in the country

  2. Florio's Lawyer says: Nov 24, 2010 9:02 AM

    IOW, the NFL is now officially scared.

  3. anarchopurplism says: Nov 24, 2010 9:06 AM

    But isn’t crying & lobbying to the gov’t what Unions do? These guys happen to have a millionaire union.

    Gee…..it’d be great to have a salary and get a cut of 60% of the profits (and 0% of any loss).

    If the country were run like this, then we’d be bankrupt. Oh wait, we are.

  4. shakenblake1 says: Nov 24, 2010 9:08 AM

    good article Mike. starting to side with the owners on this. what other buisness owner opens its books to its employees? name me one unless they are share holders.

  5. barnsey021 says: Nov 24, 2010 9:09 AM

    Blah blah blah

  6. drumbug7 says: Nov 24, 2010 9:09 AM

    “…we all need to realize that the labor talks are approaching the two-minute drill, and that neither side has displayed the cardiovascular endurance necessary to deliver an accord”

    So who is the Rex Grossman of the NFLPA and the league?

  7. rlr79 says: Nov 24, 2010 9:10 AM

    For all the PR canpaigning the NFLPA is trying to accomplish, its the NFL that is looking like the good guys right now. At the end of the day this is a story of many millionairs vs. a few billionairs, and really niether side will win in the PR battle. If there is no football, fans will point the fingers at everyone, and with the revenue lost everyone in the NFL and NFLPA loses. It simple work out the differences, come to a compromise and move on, and move out.

  8. deadmullet says: Nov 24, 2010 9:11 AM

    Seriously, Why cant these people just get something done? its simple, NFL offers a contract, union counters. Continue until you reach an agreement.
    We are in the worst recession in American history and both the owners & players are still making more money than they ever have, get over yourselves and get something done, or go to work making $40k a year like the rest of middle America.

  9. FinFan68 says: Nov 24, 2010 9:19 AM

    The union prefers posturing over negotiating. They seem to want everybody else to do their work and they are looking bad because of it.

  10. waccoforflacco says: Nov 24, 2010 9:23 AM

    I AGREE…..instead of the union crying about a lockout coming they should be negotiating. Trying to get politicians to do THEIR job is pure stupidity and very transparent. Get your a$$es in a room and hammer out a new deal.
    If they don’t like 18 games….compromise and make it 17 games, expand the rosters, and cut back on mini camps and off season “voluntary” workouts. Get a rookie pay scale and take better care of the retired players.

    There also should be a way to stop the Albert Haynesworth’s of the league from STEALING money.

  11. lucky5927 says: Nov 24, 2010 9:27 AM

    Nice shot on McNabb in that last sentence. LOVE IT!!

  12. cappa662 says: Nov 24, 2010 9:30 AM

    The union +1… the owners -1.

    Decertification = brilliant move

  13. spacemonkeymark says: Nov 24, 2010 9:37 AM

    “Nobody — MOST* of all NFL owners — wants to shut down our business.” *fixed

  14. flashdeath says: Nov 24, 2010 9:39 AM

    To all union members: Stand shoulder to shoulder against the greed of the owners. Always remember, they hired you, they didn’t BUY you. Jerry Jones doesn’t run your lives anymore than I do.

  15. realitypolice says: Nov 24, 2010 9:39 AM

    The union should know better than to get in a posturing battle with the league. No one postures better than the NFL. That release is 250 words of pure, in-your-face awesomeness.

    However, that doesn’t mean a word of it is true. No surprise that Florio buys it hook, line, and sinker- he’s been in the tank for the league from day one.

    I find it hard to believe that the NFL is begging for face to face negotiations and that the union is saying no.

  16. flyingelvislogosucksbringbackpatpatriot says: Nov 24, 2010 9:40 AM

    Now that statement shows why the NFL is the king of sports. Compare that to the amateurish players union statements and you should know who to side with. Unions have and will continue to kill this country, extremely ignorant narrow minded membership and a front for organized crime. Ok Pittsburgh fans have at it.

  17. everybodygotaids says: Nov 24, 2010 9:52 AM

    “we all need to realize that the labor talks are approaching the two-minute drill, and that neither side has displayed the cardiovascular endurance necessary to deliver an accord.”
    __________

    Stop McNabbing it and get this thing done.

  18. tommytd says: Nov 24, 2010 9:52 AM

    Again, billionaires pushing around millionaires! Both sides will, no doubt, kill the goose that laid the golden egg! Get used to UFL football in 2011. Personally, I’m going to check out the lingerie league!

  19. jagfanchokesflorio says: Nov 24, 2010 9:53 AM

    Don’t you idiots realize that we don’t care about you fighting over who gets extra millions? You aren’t pulling on any heartstrings here, you are throwing (million dollar) mud in each other’s eyes and getting pats on your backs by your millionaire buddies. Gag me.

  20. thetooloftools says: Nov 24, 2010 9:54 AM

    both sides are too greedy and the average fan is lucky to afford to go one game when we used to hold season tickets. You build these palaces so you can drive the old fans off and overcharge the new ones taking their place. one day i’ll wake up and not care as what happened when NASCAR put all the focus on a few drivers at the end of the season and nothing else mattered. It bores me now. Same will happen to pro football.

  21. tnphinsfan says: Nov 24, 2010 9:57 AM

    I hear North Korea wants an NFL team

  22. dldavidlong says: Nov 24, 2010 10:16 AM

    i want a lockout next year. i want to see which side blinks when they are losing all that money.
    the rules suck now anyways. college basketball is back.

  23. stixzidinia says: Nov 24, 2010 10:22 AM

    good article Mike. starting to side with the owners on this. what other buisness owner opens its books to its employees? name me one unless they are share holders

    —————————–

    This is like no other business. In this case the employees ARE the business. The employees ARE the product and the draw. The employees are the ones with their names on the back of the jerseys sold in stores. Nobody is paying for the privilege of gazing upon the NFL shield and logo. They are paying and tuning in to see the players do their thing.

    Please God let there be a work stoppage! Not only because the NFL needs taken down several pegs but also because fans need a reality check as far as perspective. Heaven forbid they have to do without a watered down NFL product on Sundays for a while.

  24. grandsonofcoach says: Nov 24, 2010 10:24 AM

    Intersting that the NFL will use economics and the local legislatures to hawk it’s need for new billion dollar stadiums, but balk at the NFLPA when they use the economic boost angle to get the legislature to put pressure on the owners. Double standard.

  25. everybodygotaids says: Nov 24, 2010 10:28 AM

    flashdeath says:
    Nov 24, 2010 9:39 AM
    To all union members: Stand shoulder to shoulder against the greed of the owners. Always remember, they hired you, they didn’t BUY you. Jerry Jones doesn’t run your lives anymore than I do.
    ___________

    LOL I understand sarcasm is hard to convey in text, but you must be joking. No one is forcing the players to play, for any amount of money. Yes, they have a contract, but nobody FORCES them to play. They always have the option to retire and walk away. They make millions of dollars per year (far more than their predecessors). They also have fame, which can be parlayed into post-playing careers (be it broadcasting, public speaking, or any other field). You can talk about how guys are subject to years of battering, but these are the guys who make the most money – the guys who are on the field the most….and again, they always have the option to walk away.

  26. tudefit says: Nov 24, 2010 10:28 AM

    How is it that they decertify the union and then try to bargain? I don’t understand the concept and I don’t understand why the players would need a union if they have to get rid of it to get an agreement? Too confusing. I skipped watching the NFL for 3 years when the Browns were taken away and had no problem so pretty sure I can survive without the NFL if that’s what it comes down to.

  27. SpartaChris says: Nov 24, 2010 10:34 AM

    LOVE this by the league. It pissed me off to see the NFLPA go to congress, as if they didn’t have anything more important to do, and beg them for help.

    Note to the NFLPA- STFU, lift your skirt, grab your ball and get your ass to the negotiating table. Football is a luxury, and as such, your issues are not more important than the millions of unemployed Americans in need of work. Please stop asking the good folks in Congress who are employed by the remaining taxpayers to drop everything and solve your problems.

  28. dontouchmyjunk says: Nov 24, 2010 10:48 AM

    I watch the games to see the players, not the owners. Every NFL player deserves far more than any NFL owner to play that game. The owners are greedy, corporate welfare leeches, sucking on the teat of taxpayers all over the country.

    The NFLPA needs to stay strong. We, the taxpayers, have doled out billions now nation wide for new stadiums for these leeches. They enjoy monopoly protection too.

    The players should leave the game, and join, en masse, the new UFL and put an end to the greed of NFL owners once and for all.

    Players, thanks to the UFL, YOU HAVE OPTIONS!!!! Stay strong! Drive the NFL out of business. We, the fans, will still enjoy professional football with another league.

  29. imongo says: Nov 24, 2010 10:51 AM

    The witless gyrations of the Players Union, represented by silly Dogberry’s and sponsored by Communists, reveal the sad truth of these idiots. It is called Obamanation, and their ultimate goal is to enlist this hapless administration in their cause.

  30. rassales says: Nov 24, 2010 11:20 AM

    Once again, Florio is a shill for the League.

  31. Andre's Johnson says: Nov 24, 2010 11:23 AM

    Here’s the truth:

    Many professional football players aren’t very smart. They see De Smith, a successful guy with a nice suit who speaks well and has a law degree. They think, hey this guy can go to bat for me. They think, hey I trust this guy.

    The players have not idea what’s going on. Most of them can’t even spell “collective bargaining.” They just follow De Smith’s lead because he seems like a guy they should trust.

    De Smith will ruin the league if the players don’t collectively get their heads out of the sand.

  32. louforprethident says: Nov 24, 2010 11:43 AM

    There is a part of me that hopes there is no NFL football in 2011. It will give both sides some perspective and they hopefully will have to lower prices on everything to get the fans back.

  33. radrntn says: Nov 24, 2010 11:43 AM

    lets get real….the owners are in the driver’s seat, and the players are just along for the ride……..owners will have no problem letting whatever passenger that wants to get out, get out. There are plenty of other’s who would jump in and go for that ride.

    Plus the owners still have 5 billion reasons to say if you don’t like the ride, head on

  34. bigsuede says: Nov 24, 2010 11:52 AM

    I really can’t understand the pro-NFL people in this. The NFL wants to change the percentage of the cut they get. A percentage they agreed to previously- now with this percentage both the players and owners will gain and lose money equally- it isnt like revenues go down and the players wages stay the same- wages go down according to the percentage of revenue

    The NFL wants a bigger cut—- now tell me NFL fan- who deserves the money more? Jed York or Patrick willis? Bidwell or Fitzgerald?

    And then some say- the owners take all the risk HUH??? The players are one play away from losing EVERYTHING! I dont understand these fans

  35. reddog9 says: Nov 24, 2010 12:14 PM

    Let the players go a few weeks without paychecks and 90% of them will be broke and begging to get back into the league no matter what! I hope the owners crush the union! They days for unions are long past. Just look how the teachers’ union and other public sector unions are bleeding the states dry! Eliminate unions and cut taxes!
    Go owners!

  36. reddog9 says: Nov 24, 2010 12:16 PM

    Hey rassales, You haven’t been following this site for long if you think Florio is a shill for the league. It is just the opposite. He is in the tank for the unions and everything liberal………

  37. chapnastier says: Nov 24, 2010 12:21 PM

    Your move Smith. The NFL just beotch slapped all of the players and the union and won. I am ready for scabs and couldn’t be more excited about it!

  38. chapnastier says: Nov 24, 2010 12:26 PM

    @ donttouchmyjunk

    Are you blind? The players had options before. They could go flip burgers, play arena football, move to Canada or join any of the other semi pro leagues out there. The NFL is a business just like the one I am assuming you work for. Go into your boss’s office and demand a pay raise or else you are going to strike. I am pretty sure they will reach into the stack of over a hundred applications and take a person who will be great-full for the chance to work. The NFLPA and all other unions in this country, in todays country, are destroying business and our economy.

  39. dprouse says: Nov 24, 2010 12:28 PM

    De Smith needs to wake up and understand that the best deal he can get for the players in the one he can get now. The NFL has brought in Bob Batterman, the lawyer who helped break the NHL Players Association in 2005. The NHL Players Association could have had a better deal than the one they ended up signing on any number of occasions. They didn’t sign because they were sure the NHL was bluffing about cancelling the season. They weren’t, and as a result the NHL not only crippled their union, but has given blueprint to every sports league dealing with a difficult union. Hang tough, and cancel the season if you need to, because the players will break the moment they figure out that you actually meant what you said.

    It’s up to you, De – negotiate a face saving deal early in this off-season, or get into a long, protracted battle that you can’t win. Ask Bob Goodenow how his career went after leading the NHL Players Association off a cliff.

  40. SpartaChris says: Nov 24, 2010 12:39 PM

    bigsuede says:
    Nov 24, 2010 11:52 AM
    I really can’t understand the pro-NFL people in this. The NFL wants to change the percentage of the cut they get. A percentage they agreed to previously- now with this percentage both the players and owners will gain and lose money equally- it isnt like revenues go down and the players wages stay the same- wages go down according to the percentage of revenue

    The NFL wants a bigger cut—- now tell me NFL fan- who deserves the money more? Jed York or Patrick willis? Bidwell or Fitzgerald?

    And then some say- the owners take all the risk HUH??? The players are one play away from losing EVERYTHING! I dont understand these fans
    =================================
    Actually, just the opposite has been happening- Player costs have gone up at an exponential rate while revenues have declined. I’ll try and find a link for you, or you can just google it yourself.

    Players also aren’t on the hook for the increased costs of stadium improvements or new stadiums. They don’t have to pay the costs required to expand the business. They don’t pay for any of the over head- The owners do.

    Finally, why is it wrong for the owners to want to profit from their business? If you owned a business, you’d surely want to earn a profit from it, right?

    As for the risks, the NFL isn’t recession proof. Regardless of how miniscule, there is most definitely a risk of loss. Stadiums and other related costs don’t pay for themselves.

  41. jackdiesel says: Nov 24, 2010 12:43 PM

    Anyone that can side with the Union after reading that, shouldn’t be allowed to reproduce.

  42. chrisbermansdoublechin says: Nov 24, 2010 12:53 PM

    lets remember 1] the Owners OPTED out of this deal, the players said they were happy with 2} GODdell visited training camps this summer, & the players became upset with him b/c he could NOT tell them WHAT the Owners wanted 3] the Networks are paying the legue next year, whether their is football or not, [IF they was no money coming in, IF there was a work stoppage, ya think the Owners would show more urgency to get a deal done?] 4] OTL is reporting that the current labor situation is SLOWING DOWN efforts to get a football stadium in LA {THAT’S A SHAME] … while this memo talks about the current state of the economy, that hasn’t kept GODdell from trying to shake down cities like Miami & Atlanta for stadium improvements OR in the case of Atlanta, they need a new srtadium, even though the Georgia Dome opened in 1992, IF they want to get another SB. The NFL needs to be taken down a few pegs & a work stoppage next year may not be a bad thing. You can always put College Football games on Sunday, until these Owners & this Comissioner realize that their greed does have it’s limits, especially in a bad economy, & especially since these Owners & this Comissioner have turned their backs on the people who came before them, & made the game great.

  43. bluestree says: Nov 24, 2010 1:02 PM

    Statements like this one, while they are red meat to pro-business, anti-worker types, mean little to the general public at large. Isn’t this the same kind of “posturing” you’re condemning the NFLPA for? This is standard back and forth, this is negotiating. As far as we know, what is there to negotiate. Negotiation requires give and take. What is the league giving?———————

    waccoforflacco says:
    Nov 24, 2010 9:23 AM
    There also should be a way to stop the Albert Haynesworth’s of the league from STEALING money.
    ______________

    This is a very similar argument to the one made against autoworkers, that they make too much and don’t earn it. $18 and hour to sweep up?
    The answer is the same; who offered the deal? Who agreed to pay him that kind of dough when we all knew he wasn’t worth it?
    Now he has a contract and it’s hard to get out of. Why aren’t we complaining about the geniuses who cut this deal. Why don’t we recognize they aren’t doing their jobs? Why aren’t we calling for the Snyder to sell the team, for the front office to get canned?
    The auto industry caved to some bad contracts because they didn’t want to lose money today. They didn’t care about the future because no matter what they did, they were going to get theirs. The execs that road the auto industry into the ground made a pile doing it. Dan Snyder makes a ton of money even with Haynesworth on the roster.
    I know a lot of you anti union guys sit in cubicles. You work in insurance and finance. You’re engineers and salesmen. Well guess what? They’re coming for your jobs too.

  44. backindasaddle says: Nov 24, 2010 1:09 PM

    Unions leaders are almost always political henchmen. Their tactics are typically disingenuous, politically motivated and tactically designed to manipulate public perception in a way that is 180 degrees opposite of the truth. Other than that, union leaders are wonderful people.

  45. bluestree says: Nov 24, 2010 1:15 PM

    C’mon Chris. Pushing that tired song about the “risks” of owning an NFL franchise. And being on the hook for stadium improvements? Those are passed on to tv and ticket buyers. And Taxpayers. Please dude, you have to do better than that.
    The only risk in 0wning an NFL franchise is you’ll suck at it (Brown, Bidwell, Snyder) and guess what. You still make money.

    And Chap; the ‘Boys look like they’ve been playing with scabs already, so I see your point.

  46. cowboys4life says: Nov 24, 2010 1:15 PM

    I agree w/ the above post, the players would come back after their boycott. Most NFL players can’t manage their money at all. A majority of retired NFL players from 1995 and on aren’t as rich as you think, of course your big names like Elway,Marino,Emmit Smith they all have a lot of money because of endorsements.I’m not saying all players can’t manage their money, but sadly the majority can’t.

  47. reddog9 says: Nov 24, 2010 1:17 PM

    Just to make it clear, the money the owners get next year from the networks is an advance payment on future years and not money for nothing! Just because the owners were smart enough to negotiate a TV deal with good cash flows doesn’t mean they did something deceptive or wrong. I am not positive, but I believe this type of agreement has been in the TV deals even prior to this one……..unions blow! Go owners!

  48. dontouchmyjunk says: Nov 24, 2010 1:24 PM

    @chapnastier

    I have no interest in continuing a discussion with a knucklehead. Go take your naive’ rambling to Fox News where you can be surrounded by the other lost sheep of your ilk.

    Nothing angers me more than corporate welfare. And that’s what these NFL owners have enjoyed for the last decade. Stadium after stadium was built for them with taxpayer money. Billions of dollars!

    I watch NFL football for one reason only. To enjoy the players. They are exponentially more valuable to the fan experience than the greedy owners, who offer nothing whatever to society, except to suck on our teats and drain our wallets.

    Let the owners run a league with hack talent scabs. They tried that before. The fans will watch something else, and spend their hard earned dollars elsewhere.

    If the owners keep this tactic, they will find that soon they will have no business at all. Meanwhile, there are always new athletes coming along for fans of football to enjoy. They can join a new league. And that new league has already been born. It’s the UFL.

    The NFL owners need to put their ragged tail between their legs and be thankful that they even have the opportunity to be part of the football experience, which always was, and always will be about the players and coaches. Nothing more.

  49. packa7x says: Nov 24, 2010 1:27 PM

    People, we are missing the point here. Since when is it up to the employee to decide how much he gets paid? It’s the owner’s capitol, it’s the owner’s idea, it’s the owner’s business model, it’s the owner’s time, it’s the owner’s other employees that make football possible and it’s just as important as the players.
    You want lower ticket prices? Have the players make less money. Put in a rookie wage scale, ect…as long as you free up more money for the OWNERS. Just think about any other business in America. If the price of gas/barrel goes up, so does the price of gas. If the price of players goes up, so does the price of tickets. The owners aren’t going to get stuck with the loss on increased player salaries, the fans are. Just like the owner of a gas station isn’t going to get stuck with less profit, we’re going to get hit harder in our wallets.
    Feel bad all you want for the players, but this is their CHOSEN profession. Many of them could have gone into a white or blue collar job and they could have been making $50-70k a year. Instead they CHOSE to play football. This is AMERICA people. We’re free to choose. The owners should CHOOSE how to appropriate funds. If there is a player deserving of a large contract, they will get it because there’s interest on both sides to sign the player and he is a valuable member of the team. Just like in a business.

  50. moth25 says: Nov 24, 2010 1:46 PM

    The players should try to get all that they can, as should the owners…its a business and that’s how it works. I really don’t understand why any fans would get personally involved on one side or the other…what’s in it for you?

    As for the negotiations…the owners became billionaires without football, they don’t need football (most of them) but certainly WANT it and the profit it brings. The players are nothing without football (most of them), they NEED football in order to maintain their lifestyle. It’s as simple as that and that gives the advantage to the owners.

  51. bluestree says: Nov 24, 2010 2:00 PM

    packa7x says:
    Nov 24, 2010 1:27 PM
    packa7x says:
    Nov 24, 2010 1:27 PM
    You want lower ticket prices? Have the players make less money.
    ———————————–
    Brilliant. Hey, maybe we should let Wal Mart run the NFL, after all, that’s their business model.
    It’s also foolish to think that the owners will ever lower ticket prices. If you’re buying them now, they will only pocket any additional revenue.

  52. bigsuede says: Nov 24, 2010 3:15 PM

    “Player costs have gone up at an exponential rate while revenues have declined. I’ll try and find a link for you, or you can just google it yourself. ”

    Thanks for responding chrisparta- the problem is, the salary cap is tied to the revenue. So if the revenues decline- then the salary cap declines by the same percentage…

    What is really happening here is the owners are wanting to rock the boat and try to come up with more money somewhere.

    I am a firm believer that those who create and innovate, running a business should get profits. We should reward people who work hard and make opportunities for others….. But I don’t see how you can say many of the current owners have done this. Most of the owners INHERITED their wealth. I believe only Al Davis actually started his franchise and took on a real risk. All these other owners are leeches to varying degrees.

    If I was in the union, i would start planning a league run by the players- take the owners out of the equation.

  53. aious says: Nov 24, 2010 3:30 PM

    Why either side continues to go public with their sides and BLAST the other…as if the public WILL side with them…shows how clueless both are

    The public is not going to side with one side when both sides are MUCH RICHER than the general public

  54. TheDPR says: Nov 24, 2010 4:30 PM

    DeSmith was a horrible choice to lead the NFLPA and it’s becoming more and more clear all the time.

    Goodell isn’t the greatest commissioner the league has ever had, but Smith just doesn’t have a clue.

    Both sides can win big in this negotiation if they stop playing games and actually negotiate.

  55. SpartaChris says: Nov 24, 2010 5:55 PM

    bigsuede says:
    Nov 24, 2010 3:15 PM

    I am a firm believer that those who create and innovate, running a business should get profits. We should reward people who work hard and make opportunities for others….. But I don’t see how you can say many of the current owners have done this. Most of the owners INHERITED their wealth. I believe only Al Davis actually started his franchise and took on a real risk. All these other owners are leeches to varying degrees.
    ===============================
    Oh please, the “They inherited their wealth” argument.

    I don’t know every single owner’s background, but Paul Allen, owner of the Seattle Seahawks, earned his wealth through a tiny little company you might have heard of called Microsoft.

    Zygi Wilf, (Vikings), is a real estate developer.

    Jerry Jones (Cowboys) is an oil guy.

    Dan Snyder (Redskins) founded and took public a marketing company.

    Bob Kraft (Patriots) is an investor.

    Alex Spanos (Chargers) is also a real estate guy.

    Jeff Lurie (Eagles) was a Hollywood producer.

    I’m sure if you looked into the rest of the owners, you would find most did NOT inherit their wealth, but instead created it through hard work and creativity.
    =========================================
    If I was in the union, i would start planning a league run by the players- take the owners out of the equation.

    Ha! Good luck with that. I’m willing to bet you’d be hard pressed to find players who are smart enough and willing to fork out the many millions of dollars required to create and run a league that’s as successful as the one currently employing them now.

  56. SpartaChris says: Nov 24, 2010 6:03 PM

    bluestree says:
    Nov 24, 2010 1:15 PM
    C’mon Chris. Pushing that tired song about the “risks” of owning an NFL franchise. And being on the hook for stadium improvements? Those are passed on to tv and ticket buyers. And Taxpayers. Please dude, you have to do better than that.
    The only risk in 0wning an NFL franchise is you’ll suck at it (Brown, Bidwell, Snyder) and guess what. You still make money
    ==================================
    Sure, TV money and ticket prices pay for those costs, but the owners are still responsible for making sure those bills get paid.

    Lets say, god forbid, there is no football next year. TV money pays a portion of the money the league makes, but there are no concessions or parking or ticket sales to make up the difference. I’m not sure how much the TV money goes towards paying the overhead of a football stadium, but any shortages would have to come from somewhere.

  57. natelan says: Nov 25, 2010 1:34 AM

    This Chargers fan stands 100% behind the players. If they strike, I will be firmly in their camp.

    We watch for the players.

  58. natelan says: Nov 25, 2010 2:02 AM

    Oh, and by the way, as a loyal fan, I want to make it very clear that I don’t want an expanded season.

    The league is perfect as is; CBA, duration of season and number of teams are all at the sweet spot. Messing with any of them is akin to retouching a DiVinci or “colorizing” Casablanca and doing so should be heavily frowned upon and considered an affront on its fans.

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