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Broncos under investigation for taping 49ers practice

Josh McDaniels

The bad news is that the Denver Broncos are being investigated for videotaping a 49ers practice last month in London.  The worse news is that the Broncos still lost the game.

Jeff Legwold and Dave Kreiger of the Denver Post report that the league is looking into whether the Broncos recorded a San Fran walk-through practice at Wembley Stadium on October 30, the day before the two teams played there.  On the 30th, each team had access to the venue for the session aimed at reviewing key portions of the game plan.

Per the Post, Broncos COO Joe Ellis confirmed that Broncos director of video operations Steve Scarnecchia is on a “personal leave of absence” as the NFL and the team investigate the situation.

McDaniels was employed by the Patriots during the infamous Spygate scandal, which arose from the videotaping of in-game defensive coaching signals.  Scarnecchia left after the 2004 season, and he became the Jets’ director of video operations under coach Eric Mangini in 2006.  Both McDaniels and Scarnecchia arrived in New England in 2001.

On the eve of Super Bowl XLII, the Boston Herald reported that the Patriots had videotaped the Rams’ walk-through practice prior to Super Bowl XXXVI.  The Herald later retracted the report via a front-page apology.

Though it appears that Scarnecchia is being positioned to take the fall (assuming there’s a fall to take), we can’t imagine the head coach coming out of this one unscathed, if the allegations are substantiated.

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  1. commandercornpone says: Nov 27, 2010 10:00 AM

    it’s really all okay.

    mcdaniels and co didnt take the lens cap off.

  2. jpmelon says: Nov 27, 2010 10:05 AM

    Of course the guy used to work for the Patriots…where else could he have learned how to cheat like that?

  3. unbreakable02215 says: Nov 27, 2010 10:08 AM

    Well, I save you all the trouble. Spygate again. Blahblah blah blahblah. Belicheck Cheatriots. Blah
    blahblah blah Superbowl Titles tarnished. Blahblah
    blah blah. Learned it from Belicheat. Blah Blahblah
    blahblahblah blahblah.

    Pats went on to win 17 in row. Pats are 9-2 right now.
    Pats went 11-5 with a back up QB after Brady went
    down. Made it to the playoffs in 09.

    THOSE are the real facts. Tangible. REAL. FACTS.

    NOT speculation and innuendo.

  4. blackbeardk says: Nov 27, 2010 10:11 AM

    McDaniels models his team after the Cheatriots!

  5. macjacmccoy says: Nov 27, 2010 10:13 AM

    Damn everyone better keep there eyes on the Chiefs now too. Bellicheck breeds cheaters and its just a matter of time before there the next ones caught with cameras.

  6. emperor83 says: Nov 27, 2010 10:16 AM

    18 games in a row, the Patriots had the camera rolling on their opponents… The only time they decided not to that year? The Super Bowl. The one game they lost. Coincidence? Umm, no…

  7. unbreakable02215 says: Nov 27, 2010 10:19 AM

    Oh yeah, Matt Walsh. Blahblahblah blah blah. Rams Walkthru. blah blah blahhhhblahhblahlhblah.

  8. jsprunner says: Nov 27, 2010 10:19 AM

    If nothing else, McD should be fired for STILL LOSING THE GAME!! Obviously, only the true Jedi master (BB) knows all the secrets to success in the Patriot Way. Nobody else can get it to translate (Romeo, Charlie, Mangini, Josh).

  9. mcdeezznuts says: Nov 27, 2010 10:20 AM

    Man this is just what we need.
    At least we aren’t winning, so either we can’t even win by cheating or it’s a mistake. Still hope for the latter. We need our 1st round pick bad.

  10. darthvincent says: Nov 27, 2010 10:22 AM

    This is awesome!!!! Broncos should lose their 1st round pick next year for sure, after all, if escalating the fines for players who don’t follow the rules exactly is the new normal, then maybe it should be multiple draft picks the Broncos should lose next year. The precedent with the Patriots has been set! Apply it to the Broncos.

  11. thesmartest1 says: Nov 27, 2010 10:23 AM

    The only facts to come out of the Patriots mess was that they cheated and got caught. Who knows if they’re still doing it? Sure begs the question.

  12. t1092 says: Nov 27, 2010 10:26 AM

    Maybe that’s what Todd Haley was talking about.

  13. boknowsvt says: Nov 27, 2010 10:26 AM

    This season just gets better and better for Denver.

  14. camprobot says: Nov 27, 2010 10:29 AM

    Cue the tinfoil hats before anyone actually has any real facts.

    Everything is all hearsay until there’s actual evidence.

  15. afc22 says: Nov 27, 2010 10:32 AM

    McDaniels should be fired (and probably will be) is this proves true, which is just a matter of finding the proper evidence.

    And let’s count how many Pats fans come on here to call everyone haters, rather than dealing with reality. Is there any doubt they taped the Rams walk through?

  16. stanklepoot says: Nov 27, 2010 10:35 AM

    unbreakable makes a good point. If the Broncos have been doing it this year, it proves beyond a doubt that it doesn’t really give the team any advantage. So, if it’s spygate when the Pats do it, is it Still-LOSERs-GATE when the Broncos do it?

  17. iamalwayscorrect says: Nov 27, 2010 10:35 AM

    Hmmmmmm.
    A former Patriots coach is being investigated for illegal taping.
    Patriots get fined, and stripped of a 1st round draft pick for getting caught cheating, and ZERO other teams were caught or punished.

    Fear not Broncos, because as ANY Patriots fan will scream to to world……… EVERYBODY DOES IT!!!!! EVEN COWHER, JOHNSON AND OTHERS HAVE DONE SOMETHING SIMILAR. ANOTHER COACH DIDN”T THINK IT HELPS> BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH
    Again, ZERO other teams were found to be cheating and was punished. ONLY THE PATRIOTS.
    But, everyone does it………..yea, Everyone meaning PATRIOTS COACHES!!!

  18. laxer37 says: Nov 27, 2010 10:39 AM

    Josh McDaniel

    Once a Patriot, always a Patriot.

  19. mpreto91 says: Nov 27, 2010 10:39 AM

    this is such BS. both teams had their video staffs on site to do a test of the video feeds for the stil prints each teams use during the game. the place is highly secure thus difficult to get around. so timing I am sure was an issue. to test, you have to hook up the camera and thermal printers. now did the record button get hit? i can’t say. not that anything relevant would be recorded anyway. a video staffer dies doing his job this year. now another gets his job sacrificed.

  20. iamalwayscorrect says: Nov 27, 2010 10:41 AM

    TANGIBLE FACTS!!!!!

    How many playoff games have the Patriots won during Belicheats time as head coach BEFORE getting caught for cheating??
    How many playoff games has the Patriots won since then??

    Don’t quote regular season wins moron. Playing in the weak AFC East is easy to rack up wins without cheating..
    The cheating helped the Patriots in the playoffs, not regular season. Hell, look at the Buccaneers and Chiefs with winning records, do you think they will win in the playoffs without cheating?

    Again::::::
    How many playoff games have the Patriots won during Belicheats time as head coach BEFORE getting caught for cheating??
    How many playoff games has the Patriots won since then??

    Post these stats and then those will be ACCURATE. REAL. FACTS.
    Not spin and sleight of hand stats.

  21. joetoronto says: Nov 27, 2010 10:44 AM

    commandercornpone says: Nov 27, 2010 10:00 AM

    it’s really all okay.

    mcdaniels and co didnt take the lens cap off.
    *********************************************************
    lol, obviously not.

  22. efangule says: Nov 27, 2010 10:46 AM

    @unbreakable02215-
    You forgot:
    Have not won a superbowl since being busted.

  23. crunchyclam says: Nov 27, 2010 10:46 AM

    THOSE are the real facts. Tangible. REAL. FACTS.

    NOT speculation and innuendo.
    —————————————————

    Got another fact for ya: no Superbowls since 2005 WITH the “best” qb and “best” coach in the league. Just something to chew on.

  24. heywoodjablome says: Nov 27, 2010 10:47 AM

    Thanks unbreakable02215. In case the rest of you missed it, I’ll reiterate.

    Yup, of course McDaniels cheated. Just like his teacher. One learns from the best. Super Bowls won under Belicheat by are tarnished. The illegal taping happened, proven by the fact that the Cheatriots had to forfeit draft picks for it.

    Haha, way to go McDaniels. Follow in those footsteps.

  25. Rex Grossman says: Nov 27, 2010 10:50 AM

    So let me get this straight.

    They VIDEOTAPED the 49ERS and LOST.

    Three levels of failure right there.

  26. fngs1 says: Nov 27, 2010 10:51 AM

    The picture tells it all. Like father,like son. Or minny me

  27. iamalwayscorrect says: Nov 27, 2010 10:52 AM

    Postseasons Since Spygate
    Patriots LOSE Super Bowl(to a WILDCARD Giants team after beating a Chargers team with starting running back out, and starting QB at half strength)
    Do not even qualify for playoffs.
    Get destroyed at home in first round as fans walk out in droves before 4th quarter.

    Yea, that’s an impressive resume to back up your claims NIMWIT.

  28. fancyleague says: Nov 27, 2010 10:53 AM

    >> THOSE are the real facts. Tangible. REAL. >> FACTS.

    The other FACT is that the odds are a zillion to one that they ever stopped cheating after getting caught.

  29. bonglongdiehigh says: Nov 27, 2010 10:57 AM

    unbreakable02215

    Well excuse me Mr sensitive but isn’t that what’s supposed to happen when you cheat? aren’t you supposed to win alot? Mcdaniels sucks, he’s a born loser, a boob, we got the most incompetent nitwit on the head coach market and he came from a lousy football tradition that encourages cheating. I can’t wait until he’s gone.

  30. polegojim says: Nov 27, 2010 10:59 AM

    McDaniels appears to be clueless.

    The Bronco’s are just plain bad and have gotten worse under his ‘rebuilding’ project.

    Nothing to do with the overall best team in football for the last decade+.

    Go Pats! Keep your Brady hating, man crushes coming boys. The jealous is fuel for the fire.

  31. mighty90 says: Nov 27, 2010 10:59 AM

    I guess we now know why McDaniels immediately fired the Broncos long time video coordinator when he arrived to bring in Steve Scarnecchia.

  32. blackglass3 says: Nov 27, 2010 11:03 AM

    Hmm. So the Broncos videotape a practice and lose the game, and that somehow proves the Patriots “cheating” was some huge advantage and “tainted Super Bowls”? That makes as much sense as “If it’s such a big advantage, why didn’t the Patriots also win the Super Bowl in 2000, 2002, 2005, and 2006?

    Oh, and the practice could have also been learned from Marty Schottenheimer, Jimmy Johnson, Paul Brown, ect ect. Plenty of coaches have admitted to at least knowing the practice…they were just never heard from amid all the crying fans of teams the Patriots have beaten the crap out of.

    Bottom line, it OBVIOUSLY gives no advantage.

  33. grpatriot says: Nov 27, 2010 11:05 AM

    The worst thing about this is the Bronco’s lost!
    Josh what were you thinking??? Taping after all the BS we had to listen to? I’m sure Dante is pissed!

  34. timmons94 says: Nov 27, 2010 11:06 AM

    unbreakable-
    here are some other facts
    ZERO titles last 5 yrs…..
    people cheat for a reason, the Cheatriots got fined a million dollars and lost a 1st rd draft pick for a reason u moron..

    once again- the facts- Patriots ZERO TITLES last 5 YRS…deal with it..
    Red Sox- 2 tainted titles- Manny and Big Papi both on roids
    Celtics- need to be gift wrapped 2 malcontents- Mr Clean and Mr Cancer
    Boston- home of cheaters

  35. blackglass3 says: Nov 27, 2010 11:09 AM

    Man, Florio must be wetting himself…on what would mostly be a slow Saturday there are going to be hits galore.

    Belichick’s record post Spygate: 48-15 Anyone who thinks it’s all about the taping are wastes of human flesh.

  36. connie75 says: Nov 27, 2010 11:09 AM

    haha I agree, it’s only a matter of time now until the Chiefs get caught doing something like this. Once a cheatriot always a cheatriot!

  37. mnjets says: Nov 27, 2010 11:11 AM

    The Pats and Billacheat were fined the largest amounts in the history of the NFL for their part in the taping scandal. That is a fact. They turned over tapes that they should not have had, or taped. That is a fact. They admitted to destroying tapes, ie evidence. That is a fact. How many Superbowl wins since the cheating scandal, none. That is a fact. Cheating is wrong and not something to be taken lightly. The NFL didn’t as Billy Boy was $500,000 light in the pocket. That is a fcat. I hate when fans live in Fandom and not reality.

  38. lowleadman says: Nov 27, 2010 11:15 AM

    to afc22

    Josh McDaniels is not a Patriot. He’s a Denver Bronco.

    So my point to all the little children out there this morning is that the Patriots do not have accountability as to what the Denver Broncos or any other team except themselves. Trying to blame Billy for what another head coach has or hasn’t done is more of the same from the haters. And let’s face it. You ALL hate the Pats because they are better than your team and have been for quite some time now. Rebuilding year and the Pats are 9-2 on the way to 10-2. What a GREAT job Billy has done this year. For the little tiny minded bashers out there, can you comprehend that? No, I didn’t think so.

    Billy can take Brady, give him 3 little white guys, and kick your ass at your place. I’m talking to you Pittsburgh.

  39. snaponrules says: Nov 27, 2010 11:17 AM

    How bad of a team are you when you have to film a 1-6 team to get an edge?

    Patriot titles without cheating=0

    Biggest POS franchise in the league.

  40. lowleadman says: Nov 27, 2010 11:17 AM

    iamalwayscorrect says:

    Hey dork, you must be from Pittsburgh.

    The AFC is weak? It happens to hold the two best teams in the league. Let you dog write the next post for ya.

  41. thebigolddog says: Nov 27, 2010 11:17 AM

    For a tough sport played by hard, tough men its fans are more like a bunch of whinny old women who need excuses for failure to feel better. Sick people.

  42. hairpie says: Nov 27, 2010 11:19 AM

    classic. another former Jet caught cheating? funny Scarnecchia worked for Mangini before this….

  43. fancyleague says: Nov 27, 2010 11:21 AM

    The other, other FACT is if the Pats didn’t need to cheat to win, why did they cheat?

  44. EJ says: Nov 27, 2010 11:21 AM

    Why can’t these teams play fair? For the fans or at least for me, It takes the fun out of the game. I hope that if this is true, and they were really videotaping… many lose their jobs.

  45. mojodoa says: Nov 27, 2010 11:22 AM

    LMFAO! So old habits die hard. It’s obvious McD is no BB and the Bronc’s are no f’ing Pats. But really, WTF! the 49’ers? get f’ing real. Why??? Just watch a game tape, it’s not like they change anything up.

  46. roxtar10 says: Nov 27, 2010 11:24 AM

    I think the point is being missed that Denver even felt like they HAD to tape the 49ers, of all teams, to get a win?? Which is really the bigger crime? The video-taping or that McDaniels still holds a head coaching job?

    Learning at the feet of Bellicheat is an obvious response here, but holy crap – if you have to tape one win teams to feel comfortable in your defense, you’re in trouble….

  47. myspaceyourface says: Nov 27, 2010 11:29 AM

    I

    told

    my

    buddy

    the

    other

    day. . . .

    The

    Patriots

    are

    up

    to

    their

    old

    tricks.

    Looks like BB student is up to them as well.

  48. footballphan says: Nov 27, 2010 11:37 AM

    @emporor83—

    According to you, ‘the Pats taped 18 games in a row on their way to the SB, which they didn’t tape and lost.’

    They got caught in game 1 vs. the NYJets, and went on to have the ONLY 16-0 season ever. Get your facts straight before you look any dumber. You can try to pin the ‘taping from the wrong part of the field’ on past teams, but not the 2007 team. They were caught in game #1.

    And IF TRUE, what McDaniels did was leagues apart from what Belichick did. At least ALL nfl teams are ALLOWED to tape from the endzones or pressboxes, Belichick decided to tape from an un-authorized place, the sidelines. If everyone is allowed to tape, then how is it ‘cheating?’ Because he did it from the sidelines as opposed to the endzones or pressbox?

    You guys who talk smack don’t even really know what even happened, do you? EVERY team tapes defensive signals, and is ALLOWED to. What Belichick did was wrong, because he taped from an unauthorized area, but it has nothing to do with ‘cheating,’ besides the fact that it gives you a better angle. They were caught, and lost a #1 draft pick. What else do you want?

  49. footballphan says: Nov 27, 2010 11:42 AM

    If it’s all about the taping from the wrong part of the field (which many idiots don’t even realize), then why do they still have the best record since 2007 in the entire NFL—after the incident?

    Brady’s hair, Spygate, blah blah blah.

    It’s about destroying your team every time, and that’s what you can’t take.

  50. iamalwayscorrect says: Nov 27, 2010 11:45 AM

    @lowleadman

    What is the records of the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins from oh say 2002 and now? Or even 2006 and now?
    The Pats have padded their wins on that weak AFC East for years, but come playoff time they needed to cheat. Now they can’t cheat, and haven’t done squat in the postseason

    You dork. Read the post and comprehend it next time, or maybe let your dog read it for YA.

  51. timmons94 says: Nov 27, 2010 11:47 AM

    lowleadman,
    yes, the Pats seem to do well vs steelers, esp in afc championship games when u have our signals..

    facts- last 5 yrs, Cheatriots ZERO titles, Steelers 2…

    since Hoddie got busted, ZERO TITLES, end of story…

    that being said, patriots will beat Fat Bastards Jets by 10 plus pts next week

  52. andyprough says: Nov 27, 2010 11:48 AM

    Where have I seen this movie before? Oh, yes – the Austin Powers flicks. The role of Dr. Evil being played by Belichick, and Mini-Me played by Josh McDaniels?

    But my question is – who is playing the role of Mr. Bigglesworth? Is that Charlie Weis?

  53. stanklepoot says: Nov 27, 2010 11:56 AM

    #
    iamalwayscorrect says: Nov 27, 2010 10:52 AM

    Postseasons Since Spygate
    Patriots LOSE Super Bowl(to a WILDCARD Giants team after beating a Chargers team with starting running back out, and starting QB at half strength)
    Do not even qualify for playoffs.
    Get destroyed at home in first round as fans walk out in droves before 4th quarter.

    Yea, that’s an impressive resume to back up your claims NIMWIT.
    ___________________________
    I’m not even a Pats fan and I can’t let dumb posts like this slide.

    1. Patriots lost close SB to same Giants team that beat 3 other playoff teams on the road.

    2. Beat the Chargers team that beat the Colts.

    3. Didn’t qualify for playoffs (despite racking up 11 wins) the year Brady was on IR.

    4. Embarrassing loss to Ravens in 1st round. That one’s true. Then again, it was bound to happen eventually.

    Arguing taping had anything to do with their success is ridiculous. When asked, even other coaches said it didn’t give them any real advantage.

  54. richm2256 says: Nov 27, 2010 11:59 AM

    emperor83 says:
    18 games in a row, the Patriots had the camera rolling on their opponents… The only time they decided not to that year? The Super Bowl. The one game they lost. Coincidence? Umm, no…
    ————————————————-

    Hate to rain on your parade of wittiness and cleverness, moron, but you’ve got this a$$-backwards.

    In the 18-0 season, the Patriots were caught taping from an illegal position in the first half of their season opener. They were watched like hawks by the league the rest of the season, and they won 18 straight games WITHOUT “cameras rolling” (well, without the “illegal” cameras rolling; they no doubt filmed from the league-approved “legal” spots, just like every other NFL team does – including whatever team YOU support, Chuckie)

    We never get tired of idiots like you who have no clue whatsoever on what they’re talking about.

  55. ampats says: Nov 27, 2010 12:00 PM

    To all the haters on the Pats,

    9-2

    How’s your teams season going ???

    HAHAHAHA

    Lowleadman, you hit it right on the head, he’s another Steeler toadie. Can’t get over the fact that the Patriots OWN the Steelers

  56. steelers6pack says: Nov 27, 2010 12:00 PM

    Nothing to see here, nothing to see here. This does not invole the Steelers, so nothing here to see folks! I must concetrate if James Harrison touches Fitzpatrick this weekend.

    Roger Godell

  57. iamalwayscorrect says: Nov 27, 2010 12:03 PM

    Well we all knew the Patriots ran a class organization and hired ethical, moral coaches.
    I mean this team condones cheating, dopeheads, and spying. Oh sorry, I forgot Belicheat only “misinterpeted” the rules. And “everybody” does it.
    The owner preches morality
    He revokes the season tickets of his fans if they can’t go to the game and sell them because he doesn’t want scalping. But then joins the NFL in creating the teams own (resale) scalping website where the team takes a cut of the sales.
    They preach fan loyalty, but sue longtime season ticket holders if they can no longer afford to buy their club seats.

    yea, this is a real class organization

  58. tommytd says: Nov 27, 2010 12:07 PM

    Josh McDaniel

    Once a Patriot, always a Patriot.
    ==================================
    “The apple never falls far from the tree.”

  59. richm2256 says: Nov 27, 2010 12:08 PM

    afc22 says:
    Is there any doubt they taped the Rams walk through?
    ————————————————–

    Yeah, actually, there is PLENTY of doubt. Especially since the Boston Herald had to print a retraction after their chief accusor – Matt Walsh – couldn’t produce a shred of evidence to support his contention that he taped the Ram’s walk-through for the Patriots, and he later admitted that this never happened. He made the allegation up because he was bitter after getting fired by New England for being a nutjob, and it looks like they were – as always – right on the money.

    He was such a talented guy that he wound up being a glorified caddy in Hawaii instead of getting a job with any of the 31 other teams in the NFL.

    But don’t let the facts get in the way of pure speculation, afc22.

  60. kate773 says: Nov 27, 2010 12:14 PM

    Aaaand here come the sharks. Look, the Pats haters are going to believe what they want, no matter what they are told. The facts are that, if you actually look at what the Patriots were fined for, it was that they were taping from the SIDELINE, not that they were taping at all. You can tape from other places but not the sidelines. The league sent a letter to ALL teams telling them that the practice was no longer permitted. The Patriots continued and were rightfully punished for it. However, the question has to be asked why the league sent the letters to everyone if JUST the Pats were doing it? The answer is, because they weren’t the only ones, but they were probably the only ones who continued and again, were justifiably punished and punished severely. But the problem with fans of other teams is that they are under the impression that what they were punished for is akin to stealing a playbook or sending in a secret agent to team meetings. And theories/rumors floated by media and other players during the time of the investigation only made things worse because people looking for anything to twist the knife believed these rumors as fact, and continue to spout them as fact to this day.

    I don’t have a problem with anyone who hates the Pats. I think success breeds contempt. No one hates the Chiefs or Rams. But people hate the Yankees, Pats, etc. (although I dont pretend the Pats have the same long tradition of winning as the Yankees). If something like this came out against the Jets, I’d be elated. As a Sox fan, don’t think I wasn’t happy about the steroids stuff came out about Pettite and Arod (as I’m sure the feeling was mutual when the same allegations came out against Ortiz). But I think there comes a time when enough is enough piling on. The Broncos are under the lights on this one and will continue to be. And I’m under no delusions that my little rant here is going to change anyone’s mind. People are going to believe what makes them feel good. I just felt the need to say what I wanted to say.

  61. zoxitic says: Nov 27, 2010 12:17 PM

    The apple doesnt fall far from the tree.

  62. thehighhat says: Nov 27, 2010 12:34 PM

    This is what the film showed:

    Play 1: Gore up the middle
    Play 2: Gore up the middle
    Play 3: Gore up the middle
    Play 4: Punt by Lee

    Did they really need to film a practice to figure out the Singletary Juggernaut Offense?

    Only 6 more games of the Singletary/Nolan Error!

  63. pigpenrapeswomen says: Nov 27, 2010 12:38 PM

    Boy Cheatriot fans sure are SENSITIVE on this subject!

    Here’s a fact for you:
    The Cheatriots have not won a Super Bowl since they were caught cheating! How’s that for a FACT???

  64. pigpenrapeswomen says: Nov 27, 2010 12:49 PM

    Btw, just to be fair the NY Jets were also caught cheating by taping signals. You can google this if you don’t believe me….

    I think the punishment for getting caught cheating should be permanent banishment from the league. PERMANENT.

  65. eskinsux says: Nov 27, 2010 12:52 PM

    Damn, Pats fans sure as hell get defensive whenever spygate is mentioned. I guess the organization was fined half a mil. and lost a 1st draft pick because it was rumored to have happened. Don’t worry Pats nation, no one is going to take away your tainted titles.

  66. footballphan says: Nov 27, 2010 12:52 PM

    @kate773–

    very well written and fair comments

  67. hooterdawg says: Nov 27, 2010 12:52 PM

    @kate773: I think the Pat haters are inspired by the self righteous Pat supporters who STILL insist that the Pats did nothing wrong with their ‘cheating’as defined by the rule book and emphasized by Roger Goodell. Complaints about the Patriots cheating had been flowing to the league office for years. The league finally decided to put a stop to it in a carefully orchestrated procedure that had ‘fairness ‘ as its basis. It sent out a letter to ALL teams so it would not appear that the league was investigating JUST one team ( though insiders knew the league was responding to complaints about the Pats.) The reason that so many NFL fans are STILL upset about the issue is that Roger Goodell appeared to conduct the investigation of the extent of Pats cheating in a manner that resembled a coverup. There is no doubt that Robert Krafy had significant influence on Goodell’s investigation. Therfore, Goodell destroyed evidence. He appeared to want to limit the investigation to events of the 2007 season so that previous Patriot victories ( includeing 3 SB wins) would not be soiled. Had Goodell behaved in this fashion in a similar investigation, say, of the Jets, Pat fans would be insensed. To this day, many Patriot fans insist – as you imply – that the Patriots organization did nothing more than ALL NFL teams regularly did. So don’t expect that the Patriots legacy will not always be tied to cheating when there is little or no remorse among its fan base.

  68. adipaola says: Nov 27, 2010 12:54 PM

    and they still lost…thats actually pretty embarrassing.

  69. natelan says: Nov 27, 2010 12:54 PM

    This Scarnecchia-guy needs to be kicked out of the league completely, banned from every stadium, or maybe even shot in the head as a warning signal to the other 30 teams.

    And, McDaniels is a really bad imitation of Belicheat, even wearing that stupid hoodie every weak. I swear to God, if he starts cutting off the sleeves, I’m going to lose my lunch.

    I bet he cuts out pictures of Belicheat from every Sports Illustrated and Sporting News magazines and paste them on the ceiling above his bed, right next to the Justin Bieber pictures.

    What a loser. He’ll be unemployed in the middle of next season.

  70. wetpaperbag2 says: Nov 27, 2010 12:57 PM

    #
    mpreto91 says: Nov 27, 2010 10:39 AM

    this is such BS. both teams had their video staffs on site to do a test of the video feeds for the stil prints each teams use during the game. the place is highly secure thus difficult to get around. so timing I am sure was an issue. to test, you have to hook up the camera and thermal printers. now did the record button get hit? i can’t say. not that anything relevant would be recorded anyway. a video staffer dies doing his job this year. now another gets his job sacrificed.
    ————————–

    You sound like a Bronco staffer. Otherwise, how would YOU know who was in the stadium shooting WHAT video feed and at WHAT times? Just admit that you are a Bronco employee.

  71. j0esixpack says: Nov 27, 2010 1:00 PM

    The Kansas City Chiefs don’t need a Belichick Alumni to learn how to tape walk throughs.. Lamar Hunt, invented the practice

    http://www.thesportgallery.com/sport-stories/1967aug-nflspy.html

    I think they should take away Kansas City’s Super Bowl IV trophy – and investigate all the teams going back to 1955 given the fact that this article documents how long this practice has been going on

  72. j0esixpack says: Nov 27, 2010 1:07 PM

    jpmelon says: Of course the guy used to work for the Patriots…where else could he have learned how to cheat like that?

    George Halas for starts…

    http://www.thesportgallery.com/sport-stories/1967aug-nflspy.html

    (Don’t click if you’d prefer to remain under the delusion that everyone doesn’t do it, and hasn’t been doing it since the mid 1950s.)

  73. commandercornpone says: Nov 27, 2010 1:15 PM

    joe, prove it, they still lost.

    The niners offense isnt very imaginative. they shouldnt have needed film anyway.

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    ladies and gentlemen, these are your Denver Buncos!

  74. chrisbermansdoublechin says: Nov 27, 2010 1:20 PM

    a team that Tim Tebow plays for, CHEATING??? the fact that they felt they had to do that against the 49ers, say a lot about how bad a coach Josh McDaniels really is. IF Pat Bowlen is as cozy with Emporer GODell, as Bob Kraft is, that tape will be destroyed pretty quickly.

  75. Robert says: Nov 27, 2010 1:32 PM

    This is what the film showed:

    Play 1: Gore up the middle
    Play 2: Gore up the middle
    Play 3: Gore up the middle
    Play 4: Punt by Lee

    Did they really need to film a practice to figure out the Singletary Juggernaut Offense?

    Only 6 more games of the Singletary/Nolan Error!

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    Post of the day….

    Broncos—-bring the Raider Killer Gruden as next coach.

  76. PFTiswhatitis says: Nov 27, 2010 1:44 PM

    Idiots! McD had nothing to do with the taping at all and didnt look at the tape. Facts suck sometimes eh people?

  77. bonglongdiehigh says: Nov 27, 2010 1:58 PM

    I’m just sad because Denver is cheating and we still suck. At least the cheating Pats can still win a game against San Francisco… they’d probably still film the practice though just to be safe. The Patriots can never be trusted NOT to cheat and Pat Bowlin is an idiot to think he was stealing talent away from a football coaching staff that has none.

  78. meattuperello says: Nov 27, 2010 1:59 PM

    No AFC22, there is no doubt. The Patriots so called dynasty has been tainted.

  79. footballphan says: Nov 27, 2010 2:00 PM

    There. It’s over now. You can all go back to your regularly scheduled events. McDaniels has been cleared of any and all wrongdoing, more importantly is has NOTHING at all to do with the New England Patriots. At all. So sorry.

    You can all go back to making fun of Brady’s hair, and hoping to hell that you don’t cross them in the playoffs. Especially since they have the NFL’s best record–post spygate. Maybe someone can come up with a resonable explanation for that?

  80. andyprough says: Nov 27, 2010 2:05 PM

    thehighhat says: Nov 27, 2010 12:34 PM

    “This is what the film showed:

    Play 1: Gore up the middle
    Play 2: Gore up the middle
    Play 3: Gore up the middle
    Play 4: Punt by Lee”

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    You forgot the badly underthrown 2-yard pass attempt on 3rd-and-13 by someone named Smith

  81. flash1283 says: Nov 27, 2010 2:06 PM

    This shows just how stupid some people are!!
    The Pats go 18-0 then they get beat in the SB because they of a fluke catch and it was because they didn’t video tape.

    Get real!!

  82. Bubby Brister says: Nov 27, 2010 2:11 PM

    Anybody who thinks the Patriots cheated and, worse, what they may have done gave them a huge advantage during their Super Bowl runs is a gigantic moron or in denial. You’re just like the Steelers haters who love to say the refs did it or the fools who think the Colts get an unreal advantage at home for pumping in crowd noise.

    Bottom line is you’re finding an excuse to validate the fact that your team wasn’t good enough to step up and take them down. Whine harder.

  83. tiffpats4eva says: Nov 27, 2010 2:21 PM

    @ myspaceyourface

    What did you tell your buddy about the grassy knoll and the moon landing?

  84. Rosenthals Speling Instrukter says: Nov 27, 2010 2:42 PM

    Good to see the retard brigade is out today. No wonder people think America is full of idiots.

    Blaming everyone else for your loss, just like democrats.

    Hell I am a Charger fan, we lost plenty of times to the Pats, but I am not a retard so maybe that is why I am not crying.

  85. Rosenthals Speling Instrukter says: Nov 27, 2010 2:43 PM

    @ emperor83

    I hope you aren’t a charger fan, because whatever fanbase you are a part of should be ashamed to have you there.

  86. fancyleague says: Nov 27, 2010 2:49 PM

    Matt Walsh – couldn’t produce a shred of evidence to support his contention

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    Couldn’t produce a shred of evidence because Goodell shredded the evidence.

    Not even Rancid Roger had enough stink to cover up three fake Super Bowl victories. Better to destroy all trace of the past cheating and completely ignore the current cheating.

  87. kate773 says: Nov 27, 2010 5:13 PM

    hooterdawg says:
    Nov 27, 2010 12:52 PM
    @kate773: I think the Pat haters are inspired by the self righteous Pat supporters who STILL insist that the Pats did nothing wrong with their ‘cheating’as defined by the rule book and emphasized by Roger Goodell. Complaints about the Patriots cheating had been flowing to the league office for years. The league finally decided to put a stop to it in a carefully orchestrated procedure that had ‘fairness ‘ as its basis. It sent out a letter to ALL teams so it would not appear that the league was investigating JUST one team ( though insiders knew the league was responding to complaints about the Pats.) The reason that so many NFL fans are STILL upset about the issue is that Roger Goodell appeared to conduct the investigation of the extent of Pats cheating in a manner that resembled a coverup. There is no doubt that Robert Krafy had significant influence on Goodell’s investigation. Therfore, Goodell destroyed evidence. He appeared to want to limit the investigation to events of the 2007 season so that previous Patriot victories ( includeing 3 SB wins) would not be soiled. Had Goodell behaved in this fashion in a similar investigation, say, of the Jets, Pat fans would be insensed. To this day, many Patriot fans insist – as you imply – that the Patriots organization did nothing more than ALL NFL teams regularly did. So don’t expect that the Patriots legacy will not always be tied to cheating when there is little or no remorse among its fan base.
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    I fail to see where Pats fans owe you or anyone else anything, let
    alone remorse. What do you want? An apology from Pats fans? Yeah, hold your breath waiting for that one. I also fail to see where pointing out what the Pats actual infraction was is justifying what they did. I was pretty clear that they were deservedly punished and any Pats fan who feels they did nothing wrong is a homer with no sense of objectivity.

    So apparently other fans feel Goodell is hiding something. Where is the evidence of THAT? All I hear about is how there’s no evidence of
    any other teams doing this, so obviously the Pats had to be alone in
    this practice. But then you go on about a coverup and taping of walkthroughs when there is no evidence of that (and telling me that Goodell destroyed all the evidence is also nothing but conjecture. There’s no proof there was anything on those tapes beyond what was released to the public so you can just save it).

    Again, believe what you want. If you feel the Pats cheated their way to those SB’s then nothing I or anyone else says is going to matter. I can live with that. But if you’re looking for Pats fans to feel or express “remorse” for something their team did, you’re going to be awfully frustrated.

  88. grogansheroes says: Nov 27, 2010 5:50 PM

    To iamalwayscorrect.

    Well I do not know where to begin. First the screen name, what are you 12? Probably about 18, live in mom and dad’s basement, and are the moral authority of PFT. Try going outside into the world. I know it is a big scary place, but you can do it. You know what else is out there? Girls. Do you know what they are? Try talking to one once in a while, you’ve been watching the Xfiles for too long. Fresh air can do wonders for the brain, please, for everyone here, try it.

  89. goldsteel says: Nov 28, 2010 2:27 AM

    lowleadman says:
    Nov 27, 2010 11:15 AM

    Billy can take Brady, give him 3 little white guys, and kick your ass at your place. I’m talking to you Pittsburgh.

    I don’t know why the Steelers got dragged into this. The Steelers can win if the commissioner lets them play football. Yes, the Steelers got beat good by New England. We Steelers fans are hoping for a rematch in the playoffs. We all remember how well the Patriots did in the playoffs last year when they played the Ravens.

    GO STEELERS!

  90. waynefontes says: Nov 28, 2010 10:30 AM

    PFTiswhatitis says:
    Nov 27, 2010 1:44 PM
    Idiots! McD had nothing to do with the taping at all and didnt look at the tape. Facts suck sometimes eh people?
    ————————————————–

    Of course he didn’t. Steve Scarnecchia did this all by himself, a rogue operative. I bet it was all his idea, wonder where he got that idea from…

    Whether McDaniels did or didn’t know, they should all be fired for losing to the 49ers, with or without taping. The ’85 or ’95 49ers, I could understand. This bunch? Not so much…

    The sooner McDaniels is fired, the better off the Broncos will be.

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