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Report: McDaniels explains to coaching staff differences between Spygate I and II

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Former Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels has managed to maintain a good relationship with his former boss, Patriots coach Bill Belichick.

Until now.

Jay Glazer of FOX reports that McDaniels met with his staff on Friday to explain the circumstances surrounding Spygate II, which supposedly arose from the one-time-only videotaping of a 49ers’ walk-through practice by a rogue video operator, Steve Scarnecchia.  And McDaniels distinguished the situation from the original Spygate, which arose apparently from years of videotaping of in-game defensive coaching signals.

“That was practiced, that was coached, that was worked on,” McDaniels said in reference to the Patriots’ past practices, per Glazer.

McDaniels also warned his staff to keep their mouths shut.  “If this gets out, there are jobs on the line,” McDaniels told the staff, per Glazer.

So why did it get out?  It possibly had something to do with the fact that, after the 59-14 loss to the Raiders, McDaniels took the staff to owner Pat Bowlen and lambasted them, according to Glazer.

Glazer also reports that there are “raised eyebrows” in the facility, based on the perception that McDaniels threw Scarnecchia under the bus.  Which implies that there’s a belief within the organization that, while McDaniels and Scarnecchia didn’t get their stories together after the fact, they possibly got their stories together before the fact.

Indeed, the sense remains that, even though McDaniels claims he didn’t watch the tape and that Scarnecchia acted alone, Scarnecchia was the Dawson and/or Downey in this situation, and McDaniels ordered the Code Red.  (Hat tip to FNIA producer Joe Gesue for that one.)

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52 Responses to “Report: McDaniels explains to coaching staff differences between Spygate I and II”
  1. lowleadman says: Nov 28, 2010 12:26 PM

    Mangina II.

    Careful who you trust.

  2. realitypolice says: Nov 28, 2010 12:31 PM

    This guy proves that working for a genius doesn’t make you one.

  3. help me says: Nov 28, 2010 12:34 PM

    This must be a hard pill for you Patriot fans to swallow.

    Until now we didn’t know for sure just how bad the Patriots were cheating.

    This is real bad, Patriots fans.

    One word: Tarnished

    One missing word from now on: Dynasty

    The only question I have is why did Goodell destroy the evidence? What if a new commissioner needs to see it at a later date? Why Roger Why?

  4. iamalwayscorrect says: Nov 28, 2010 12:34 PM

    “That was practiced, that was coached, that was worked on,” McDaniels said in reference to the Patriots’ past practices, per Glazer.

    **********************************

    Oh boy I can’t wait to see the comments from Pats fans flooding this post.

    I will give my predictions on their comments.

    Liar Liar pants on fire.
    How can you practice and work on misinterpeting the rules?
    But everyone was doing it!

    Pats fans continue to deny just like shady Bobby Kraft and Belicheat.
    Return those tainted trophies Greedy Bobby.
    Hell kraft and Belicheat should be banned from the league.
    It’s clear the whole coaching staff and ownership knew cheating was taking place.
    Now it’s your turn to comment Pats fans. Just take a moment to stop your 25 year old Volvo wagon, tell your very obese wife to sit tight and strap the chowder bag on her, so you can come here and lie, deny, make excuses, snivel, and whine.

  5. aldavisisthenfl says: Nov 28, 2010 12:36 PM

    Let’s not forget the fact Bowlen was previously convicted of circumventing the salary cap.

    I doubt that he’s pissed McDaniels did it, just that he caught……………………

  6. cmr123 says: Nov 28, 2010 12:37 PM

    CHEATER, CHEATER, CHEATER, CHEATER,

  7. timmons94 says: Nov 28, 2010 12:37 PM

    practiced and teached and worked on….
    can’t way to hear Cheatriots fans typical lame response…

    Hoodie and the Cheatriots- ZERO titles in last 5 yrs…Might want to start cheating again, if they ever stopped

  8. aldavisisthenfl says: Nov 28, 2010 12:37 PM

    I doubt that he’s pissed McDaniels did it, just that he got caught……………………

  9. heywoodjablome says: Nov 28, 2010 12:38 PM

    Scumbag cheater.

  10. toledoohoh says: Nov 28, 2010 12:43 PM

    What exactly is “THAT”?

    More rumor and innuendo as fact.

    More fitting of the rumor and innuendo to fir your pre-conceived notions.

    More truncated and out of context quotes used to bolster entirely separate ideas.

    Awesome job as usual, Perez.

  11. blackglass3 says: Nov 28, 2010 12:44 PM

    Hmmmm. In other old news, the Titanic sunk and we won WWII.

    “That was practiced, that was coached”. Yeah, which is exactly why it wasn’t that big of a deal. It was never hidden to a select few people. Oh, AND the big deal of Spygate was where the camera was located. Get over it.

  12. wydok says: Nov 28, 2010 12:44 PM

    So does that mean McDaniels eats breakfast 300 yards from 4000 Cubans who are trained to kill him?

  13. ineptguy6 says: Nov 28, 2010 12:46 PM

    Yes, I am completely buying in to the story that the only time he ever taped he got caught. The only time they ever got caught it was a rogue operator. The only time they ever got caught he never watched the film. What bad luck for McDaniels that the only time someone, acting alone, cheated (and he didn’t even watch it) they got caught.

    Next time i get pulled over I am going to say that I never speed, it was the cars fault and I was already early anyway. (then again it worked for some Toyota owners)

  14. jimmy1smith says: Nov 28, 2010 12:46 PM

    They both cheated, one practice went on for 7 years and yeilded 3 tainted Superbowls, the other one week and resulted in a loss.

  15. eskinsux says: Nov 28, 2010 12:50 PM

    LOL…..The broncos have lost 15 out of their last 20 games, this guy is so out of his league it’s not funny…He parlayed a culture of cheating to a nice payday, and soon it will be gone…Face facts, he sat there and watched the Pats win 3 tainted titles, and figured he could do just as well and get a higher paycheck…Belicheck and his coaching tree, is the same as having Vinnie from Bayonne, on the payroll…..it was coached?…..LOL

  16. thesarcasm says: Nov 28, 2010 12:54 PM

    Of course he watched the tape and of course New England made it a part of their game plans/practice. Why else go to the trouble of doing it.

  17. lesterhayes37 says: Nov 28, 2010 12:56 PM

    I hope the Donkeys never fire this guy. He is an absolute train wreck and will never win anything in the NFL as a head coach.

    XI XV XVIII

  18. makimaguro says: Nov 28, 2010 12:57 PM

    There’s no way that he didn’t know about the 6 minute tape. He probably did not watch it. If the video guy has been in the business long enough he was probably smart enough to just tell McDaniels that the Niners really didn’t do much and it wasn’t worth watching.

    Still don’t understand how they got ‘caught’ – pretty sure they didn’t just turn themselves in.

    If the rest of this is true (it is a rumor mill) about his coaches – probably not looking good for that entire crew.

  19. iamalwayscorrect says: Nov 28, 2010 12:58 PM

    Perhaps the Pats fans will do what they do best when confronted with the truth.
    Hide.

  20. bleedsoe9mm says: Nov 28, 2010 12:58 PM

    $950,000 and a 1st round pick

  21. pastabelly says: Nov 28, 2010 12:59 PM

    This is worse because they should have learned from the first time. Maybe not worse but stupid.

  22. richm2256 says: Nov 28, 2010 1:12 PM

    As we listen to Josh McDaniels spin this “I knew nothing” story, which happened on HIS watch, let me post a part of an article that was in the Denver Post yesterday, in which Josh McDaniels is quoted – from the time of his hiring as HC – about his involvement in the original “Spygate”:

    ————————————————-
    “Upon his formal introduction as the team’s 12th head coach, McDaniels was asked about the effect of “Spygate” on his candidacy for the job, as well as whether either Broncos owner Pat Bowlen or Ellis asked him about Spygate during either of his two interviews with team officials.

    At that time McDaniels said: “That situation was something that happened. I was not aware of that. I wasn’t aware of it and all the things that did happen in terms of that whole scenario. It really didn’t affect us, to tell you the truth. It was all about preparation and trying to do whatever we felt was best that week. It really didn’t have anything to do with that.
    ————————————————-

    Now, this clearly shows that he supposedly represented to the Bronco’s organization that he A) had nothing to do with “Spygate” B) knew absolutely nothing about “Spygate” when it was going on C) didn’t believe taping the other team’s signals had nearly the same impact as solid, traditional “preparation”.

    So now, on McDaniels’ OWN WATCH, he STILL professes that he had no involvement or knowledge of the taping, and that even though he claims to have not believed in any benefit from taping, he still hired a guy whom he knew from two previous teams which HAD illegal taping practices – New England, and the Jets.

    Josh McDaniels is coming across as less-than-honest here, and this “I had nothing to do with it” excuse may work ONCE, but TWICE is definitely suspect. Especially since he pins the original “SpyGate” on his then-head coach, yet here as HC himself, he claims no knowledge or accountability?!!!!

    Again, does anyone in Denver really believe that Josh McDaniels innocently hired Steve Scarnecchia completely unaware of his videotaping troubles in both New York and New England – and if he honestly was, what the hell does that say about Josh McDaniels? Shouldn’t he – of all people- have known that? And does anyone in Denver honstly velieve that that experience isn’t the very thing that McDaniels brought Scarnecchia to Denver FOR?

    This whole thing stinks to high heavens, and Roger Goodell is on crack if he thinks this speedy fine is going to end this incident. I don’t see Steve Scarnecchia taking this total blaming of culpability lying down, unless he has received some massive payoff from SOMEONE (Pat Bowlen? Roger Goodell?) to take the fall for this. If Scarnecchia didn’t “get paid”, you can bet that the $hit will indeed hit the fan, at full speed.

    Denver, Bowlen, McDaniels, and Roger Goodell are all far from “out of the woods” on this incident.

  23. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: Nov 28, 2010 1:15 PM

    “If this gets out, there are jobs on the line.”

    It’s true, Josh. It’s true.

  24. pooflingingmonkey says: Nov 28, 2010 1:19 PM

    This guy is as good as gone the day after the Broncos last game this year.

  25. jhorton83 says: Nov 28, 2010 1:33 PM

    This idiocy of attaching the non-suffix “-gate” to every pseudo-controversy needs to stop. Do you know the reason that Watergate was called Watergate? BECAUSE THAT WAS THE NAME OF THE DAMN PLACE! Made-up names like “Spygate” are just retarded.

  26. patriotinvasion says: Nov 28, 2010 1:34 PM

    Haha…leave it to the haters to blame the Patriots for the Broncos doing this. Love it. I love how everyone assumes that somehow a camera can make tackles, throw 45 yard passes on a line, make juke moves, catch in the cold, tip balls for interceptions, force fumbles…It’s amazing how one camera can just play the entire game of football for you.

    All I know is even the GOD of the Haters Matty Walsh claimed the Patriots did NOT tape any Rams walkthrough…the guy who tried to bring the Pats down didn’t even say that was true and he was there that day…

    Walkthroughs are different than siganls which change every week and are in plain view to 70,000 people in the stadium. Glad my Pats never did what the Broncos did…HAHA

  27. patriotinvasion says: Nov 28, 2010 1:36 PM

    I also love how when any Patriots fan makes a good argument for why spygate was and is a non-story…such as how Jimmy Johnson admitted he taped signals when the Cowboys won 2 Super Bowls, there is absolutely ZERO response or acknowledgment of the point…hilarious…the Haters are so blinded by their own team’s sucktitude that they can’t see the truth…

    FOOTBALL PLAYERS WIN FOOTBALL GAMES ON SUNDAYS!!! Not cameras and certainly not signals that every one in the stadium can see…

    Again…Pats record in the 4 years prior to “spygate” 57-16…Pats record in the 4 years since…48-15…LOLOLOL…Pretty similar to me…with a REBUILDING TEAM!!!!

  28. hairpie says: Nov 28, 2010 1:38 PM

    this is hysterical. so how is espn gonna hide the fact Scarnecchia was the director of video operations for the Jets??

  29. rhodeislandpatriotsfan says: Nov 28, 2010 1:45 PM

    One of the more memorable quotes from the movie “Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf” (1966; Edward Albee, play; Ernest Lehman, screenplay) is uttered by Martha: “A drowning man takes down those nearest.”

    Josh McDaniels: Portrait of a drowning man.

  30. rectumnearlykilledem says: Nov 28, 2010 1:45 PM

    Jet fans better hope the videographer doesn’t start talking. He was their Head Videographer for three years. I can’t imagine what he did there. Jets, Broncos, and Pats have a lot of smoke around them.

  31. lazerlike42 says: Nov 28, 2010 2:03 PM

    “Perhaps the Pats fans will do what they do best when confronted with the truth.
    Hide.”

    [sarcasm]Yes, that’s *exactly* what Patriots fans do.[/sarcasm]

    Both a few years ago and right now, what I actually see around the various blogs and message boards are Patriots fans (as well as fans of other teams and even the honest “Patriot haters”) presenting *facts* while the bashers just throw out words like “tainted” and “cheater” and not only never present any actual facts, but never respond to any that anybody else presents, either.

    Facts such as that *more* than one NFL coach has stated over and over that what the Patriots did was common practice in the NFL. You’ve even had Jimmy Johnson say that he did it with his Super Bowl teams in Dallas.

    Facts such as that every some “problem” can be found dominant team in history, such as the 49ers who played fast and loose with their rosters, or the Steelers who, heck, I can’t even remember what they did anymore, but it was something.

    And the fact is that it doesn’t matter what the Steelers did, because it’s without question that every NFL team does whatever they possibly can to win, whether you want to call it “cheating,” “cheap,” or anything else. Whatever the Steelers or anyone else did, it doesn’t make them stand out from anybody else. I hate the Steelers and the Cowboys, but you know what, when they won, they won! If they did this or that, you can be assured that all of their opponents were doing the same thing or worse. That’s the NFL. Heck, that’s the NCAA, and even most high school football, at least in the big football states.

    The degree to which people will ignore facts to hate on – not just the Patriots, but whatever team they’d like to – is amazing. Take as an example the post above:

    “Until now we didn’t know for sure just how bad the Patriots were cheating.

    This is real bad, Patriots fans.”

    Really? Are you serious? The fact that the Patriots camera operations were “coached and practiced” is news? Are you kidding me? This is nothing new. That was the *point* when it came out in 2007 – it was something the Patriots had systematically done for a while (and as I said, so had everyone else, but that’s beside the point). The fact is that there *isn’t* anything new here, but that doesn’t stop bashers from trying to use it anyways, and so once again, they ignore the facts (in this case, that this is old news) and try to present it as something that helps their case.

  32. timmons94 says: Nov 28, 2010 2:10 PM

    patsinvasion- only stats that matter
    Cheatriots- 3 tarnished rings during videotaping yrs
    0 since…
    18-0 doesn’t mean much these days when u lose in Super Bowl..
    Pats fans r pathetic…

  33. fancyleague says: Nov 28, 2010 2:10 PM

    New England Pasterisks.

  34. bigbits2 says: Nov 28, 2010 2:13 PM

    How exactly is it new news that the Patriots were taping defensive signals.
    Belichick already admitted that he had a video guy taping during the games for years, and they got penalized for it.
    The camera guy was in Patriots gear in view of 70,000 people, as were the defensive signals he was taping. And some coaches even waved to the camera.
    Further, the J.E.T.S Jets and Mangini hired Scarnecchia from the Patriots to do the same thing as their video director, before spygate.
    The Jets thought it would be a funny jab to rat out the Pats in game 1 in NJ a few years back.
    Probably didn’t realize it would be this big of a deal.
    The only real news story is that McDaniels had claimed the Patriots didn’t have a guy filming on the sidelines when in fact he did know.
    McDaniels is done in Denver.

  35. blackglass3 says: Nov 28, 2010 2:13 PM

    thesarcasm says:
    Nov 28, 2010 12:54 PM
    Of course he watched the tape and of course New England made it a part of their game plans/practice. Why else go to the trouble of doing it.

    Scouting an opponent, you twit. If you can figure out the tenancies of the defensive coordinator, you can figure out which plays to run that will blow the defense up.

    Seriously, you guys act like teams never send advanced scouts to game, or watch video on opposing teams. And for the millionth time, if you think Belichick came up with this on his own you are lying to yourself. He was taught this practice on Ted Marchibroda’s coaching staff 30 years ago.

  36. chrisbermansdoublechin says: Nov 28, 2010 2:14 PM

    one key thing here: there is no Tom Cruise to get to THE TRUTH, b/c these Owners pay this Comissioners salary … “THAT WAS PRACTICED, THAT WAS COACHED, THAT WAS WORKED ON” McDaniels said in refernce to past Patriots practices, per Glazer

  37. eskinsux says: Nov 28, 2010 2:25 PM

    @patriotinvasion
    —————————————-
    You make valid points, it’s all hersay and innuendo, that 3/4 of a million dollar fine and loss of a first round draft pick was just the cost EVERY NFL team does for conducting business, the fact they haven’t won a Superbowl since is just a coincidence, I mean how could we not put 2 and 2 together, it’s all so simple to comprehend now, and just by your name i can tell you are nothing but a bandwagon Pats fan, who before they became a fake dynasty by cheating, we’re one of the worst franchises in the NFL….But, you keep spending you’re money at Patriot Place. Kraft enjoys every penny you fraud pats nation spend, the same “nation” that didn’t sell out every home game til 1994…

  38. nflwatcher says: Nov 28, 2010 2:36 PM

    The 2007 Patriots were penalized in game 1 against the Jets for violating a new rule adopted after the 2006 season. Whatever filming occured prior was not violating any NFL rules. The idea that Super Bowl wins are tainted is moronic.

  39. kcchiefsnroyals says: Nov 28, 2010 2:37 PM

    People who think that their team is lilly white when it comes to winning games in the NFL are not very bright. With all the money involved with winning ALL teams cheat. This is just a reminder.

  40. bradysbitch says: Nov 28, 2010 2:40 PM

    What Belichick did was tape defensive signals from an illegal area, the sidelines. Teams are permitted to tape signals from other areas, not the sidelines. NE was not doing something in secret. Of course they practiced it. It wan’t that big of a deal. They did it in front of 60,000 people every week, Herm Edwards even waved at the camera.

    What Scarnecchia did in Denver is completely different. He taped something that is supposed to be private. Defensive signals are not private. They are out in the open. Practices are not. IMO this is a whole different ballgame. Which leads back to a very serious issue; Rodger Goodell. It seems to me that what Denver did is much more serious than what NE did. So why did Denver only get 100K in fines instead of 3/4 million? What about the draft pick? Goodell is a jackass who just makes up rules as he goes along. It like playing roulette with this guy. He spins the wheel to determine the fine. The inconsistency with him is just ridiculous. He is really a problem.

    Don’t forget that Scarnecchia worked for Mangina and the jets too……..

  41. richm2256 says: Nov 28, 2010 3:07 PM

    nflwatcher says:
    The 2007 Patriots were penalized in game 1 against the Jets for violating a new rule adopted after the 2006 season. Whatever filming occured prior was not violating any NFL rules. The idea that Super Bowl wins are tainted is moronic.

    bradysbitch says:
    What Belichick did was tape defensive signals from an illegal area, the sidelines. Teams are permitted to tape signals from other areas, not the sidelines. NE was not doing something in secret. Of course they practiced it. It wan’t that big of a deal. They did it in front of 60,000 people every week, Herm Edwards even waved at the camera.

    What Scarnecchia did in Denver is completely different. He taped something that is supposed to be private. Defensive signals are not private. They are out in the open. Practices are not. IMO this is a whole different ballgame.
    ————————————————-

    Two EXCELLENT posts that not one single Patriots hater is ever going to understand. Ever. The truth gets in the way of their hatred of this phenonminal franchise.

    By the way, this Denver incident should put to rest once and for all that filming a team’s signals or walk-throughs gives you a clear advantage…….. for God’s sakes, the Bronco’s did it agants the FORTY NINERS, and STILL LOST!!!!!

    Tainted Super Bowls, my a$$.

    Any moron who thinks the Patriots are still breaking the rules – after paying $750,000 in fines and losing a first round pick – is a complete idiot. And any moron who says “they haven’t won a Super Bowl since Spygate” is a BIGGER idiot who dosn’t understand that the Patriots lost multiple Super Bowls BEFORE “Spygate”, and that their record AFTER “Spygate”, when they’re being watched under a microsope by everybody in the game, is very close to what is was BEFORE.

    Pity the haters; they’re too stupid to understand the truth, and are driven by pure jealousy that their teams suck compared to New England.

  42. Wisconsin77 says: Nov 28, 2010 5:31 PM

    This proves how much the Patriots were cheating. It also strengthens that asterisk next to their three SB wins.

  43. andyprough says: Nov 28, 2010 6:36 PM

    How long until Scarnecchia turns up dead, floating face down in Boston harbor with a couple bullets in the back?

    If that guy ever starts talking – wow. He’ll be able to take down Belichick and Goodell both. And don’t forget – if they’ve been lying for the past 3 years, then they lied to a Congressional investigation, and possibly to a federal judge in the New Jersey SpyGate lawsuit. These guys could both lose their jobs AND go to jail.

  44. patriotinvasion says: Nov 28, 2010 7:34 PM

    @andyprough…

    It’s not that serious dude…relax

  45. patriotinvasion says: Nov 28, 2010 7:37 PM

    @ Wisconsin77

    Yea…you got it…a Broncos story immediately proves a million things about a team 2,500 miles away…exactly. So if your loser Packers with their overrated, never won anything QB happens to have a former assistant do something bad…that immediately proves that the Packers were also doing all of those same things…

    I got it…thanks for your wisdom…geek

  46. rushmatic says: Nov 28, 2010 7:42 PM

    To all who bring this full-circle to the Patriots:

    You’re idiots. Go watch shuffleboard, because you’re not smart enough for football. The problem with the Patriots in 2007 was the PLACEMENT of the cameras on the field, not the fact that they were taping.

    Move on, morons.

  47. Florio chased my ambulance says: Nov 28, 2010 8:19 PM

    Since all this crap began, not one bitter, jealous moron has been able to explain to me how video taping something in plain sight is cheating. Maybe because it isn’t.

    But I’ll tell you what is:

    Admittedly knowing the defensive play calls before the snap (Peyton Manning)

    Enhancing crowd noise. (Indianapolis)

    Treating the salary cap like your redheaded stepchild. (Denver)

    Observing the Chargers practice the week before you play them from atop a grassy hill. (Denver)

    Admittedly recording and trying to decifer Tom Brady’s audibles from game recordings. (Dolphins)

    Being thrown out of the stadium for videotaping the opponents sideline (Jets 2006)

    I’m sure if Florio ever worked up the cahones to ask him, Dungy could tell us about a few more tricks he had up his sleeve too.

    Point is, all you haters only hate greatness, only hate what you don’t have and can’t admit to yourselves that even though the Pats may have videotaped, your team did the same or maybe worse, and still got their asses handed to them. Chew on that for a bit.
    Losers.

  48. quackattack77 says: Nov 28, 2010 8:39 PM

    The jealousy of anti-Patriot fans is hilarious. The Pats have sustained success year after year, with different players, different coordinators, and different position coaches. It’s not because of some stupid camera, it’s because the players on the field execute their job as a team.
    The Patriot haters sound like a bunch of whiny little children making excuses for all the reasons why the Patriots continue to win.
    Face it, the Patriots are a well oiled machine and any time a part of that machine stops working…(ie Moss), then the Pats discard it, and go to the junkyard and get a replacement (ie Branch).
    I’m actually hoping the Patriots win the SB this year, so it will shut the rest of you whiny ass punks up.

  49. DenverBroncosFan_NoMatterWhat says: Nov 28, 2010 8:54 PM

    jhorton83 says: Nov 28, 2010 1:33 PM

    This idiocy of attaching the non-suffix “-gate” to every pseudo-controversy needs to stop. Do you know the reason that Watergate was called Watergate? BECAUSE THAT WAS THE NAME OF THE DAMN PLACE! Made-up names like “Spygate” are just retarded.

    Thank you.

  50. grpatriot says: Nov 29, 2010 10:59 AM

    McDaniels you suck! Take off the Hoodie!!!
    You get caught and blame the Belichick???

    Is this the old excuse that it’s soceity’s fault?

    Don’t plan on coming back to New England after you get fired…not interested.

    Throwing everyone under the bus to make yourself look pallitable (less guilty) is disgusting…Your just trying to cover your ass…Pathetic! You’re just as bad as Mangini. Backstabbing little puke!

  51. kisstherings says: Nov 29, 2010 12:28 PM

    @help me says:
    Nov 28, 2010 12:34 PM
    This must be a hard pill for you Patriot fans to swallow.

    Until now we didn’t know for sure just how bad the Patriots were cheating.

    This is real bad, Patriots fans.

    One word: Tarnished

    One missing word from now on: Dynasty

    The only question I have is why did Goodell destroy the evidence? What if a new commissioner needs to see it at a later date? Why Roger Why?

    ————————————————

    lol You are truly an idiot dude.

    “Until now, we didn’t know for sure how bad the Patriots were cheating”??

    Umm…yes they did. That is why they lost a first round draft choice.

    This is not anything new dude – and though moron haters like you will look for any straw to grasp….it is a mute point.

    The reason…you moron…that Goodell destroyed the evidence, was to kill this story after the Pats were punished. They did so because it was known that this was a common practice throughout the league up until that year, and a memo was sent out to all teams to stop doing it during the off-season – Goodell wanted to put the whole thing to bed. The Pats kept doing it (for one game!) and were punished very harshly for it with a first round pick.

    But keep the moronic hating posts going though dude…..they are good satisfying fun for us Pats fans to laugh at while they march to another Championship.

  52. youareallpatsbittches says: Nov 29, 2010 1:10 PM

    LMAO! You haters can try and come off as self righteous all you want. Buy lets be totally honest, you are nothing more than biased and tainted based on your full blown jealousy.Try and mask that in any way, shape or form, but it is what it is.

    Lets revisit spyagte, since you all love pointing fingers…The “Tape” that cost the pats a first rounder was confiscated in game one! and never used! Blown in by a Team (the Jesters) that was pissed cause their Video taper was kicked out of Gillette stadium the game before, but not because he was filming, but because he was in the endzone.

    Yes, we have VIDEO of the jets video guy taking video of the Pats, it was on national TV, but no-one cared cause the Jets sucked. You all care cause you are Patriots Bittches and they smack down your favorite team more times than not.

    The walsh idiot could never provide the tape he said he had.

    Do me a favor and look up the Pats record post Spygate. I know, the Patriots are still cheating right? You are either naive or cant see through your own blind hatred…TOO BAD FOR YOU! WE OWN YOU….. LOL Keep up your self righteous BS, we can see right through it and we suffer no guilt…post spygate we win 80% of our games. 3 SB wins Baby!

    Josh didnt view the tape, Bill clinton didnt inhale.

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