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Reality setting in for Seahawks

Pete Carroll, Jim Carroll

Last week, I wrote about Pete Carroll’s “uncommon” optimism rubbing off on the Seahawks.  After enduring another beatdown at home, reality has started to set in.

The Seahawks look like a very poor team in a worse division that has overachieved to get to 5-6.  Signs of depression:

1. “We’re too hurt,” quarterback Matt Hasselbeck told ESPN’s Mike Sando. “We have to get healthy.”

Wideout Mike Williams was out and center Chris Spencer left Sunday’s game.  Seattle has injuries, but we don’t think they are atypical at this point of the year.

2. The Seahawks kneeled to end the game despite trailing.

3. Seattle has been blown out twice in a row at home, giving up 40 points in both games.  In their last five games, Seattle is 1-4 .  They’ve allowed 33.6 points-per-game over that span.  The four defeats were by an average of 24 points.

The Seahawks host the Panthers, then head to San Francisco the next two weeks.  Those are both winnable games, but no win can be taken for granted for Seattle right now.

The Seahawks are playing like one of the worst teams in the league; they just happened to be tied for first place.

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26 Responses to “Reality setting in for Seahawks”
  1. PFTiswhatitis says: Nov 29, 2010 10:08 AM

    #2 – kneeled to end the game even though they were trailing! Why wait for the end, why not just wave a white flag? Geez, at least use the time to practice!

  2. vahawker says: Nov 29, 2010 10:12 AM

    The fault lies completely at totally with Tim Ruskell…he took a Super Bowl team and destroyed it completely leaving a roster full of low to no talent players, midget DB’s, and guys completely lacking any attitude and killer instinct.

    Tim Ruskell is directly responsible for what you see on the field…if it weren’t for Carroll and Schneider turning over rock and draining every pond trying to find players, it would be even worse.

    Tim Ruskell @#%^((^@!!!!!

  3. blackglass3 says: Nov 29, 2010 10:18 AM

    Every single Patriots fan saw this coming a mile away. Carroll SUCKS in the pros. Go get another college banned from Bowl play, Pete.

  4. joetoronto says: Nov 29, 2010 10:30 AM

    Pete Carroll will turn this around!

    He’s pulling out his special pom poms this week.

    Coach em up, Pete!

  5. sj39 says: Nov 29, 2010 10:45 AM

    Nah, Carroll does not have what it takes in the NFL. Besides, the Rams are going to win this division – best QB.

  6. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 29, 2010 10:58 AM

    This comes as no surprise. The Hawks are simply not a good team.

    Pete Carroll’s track record in the NFL speaks for itself, and it isn’t pretty. Hasselbeck is garbage. He always has been.

    They are fortunate that the NFC West is now worse than the Pac-10, otherwise they’d be in last place where they belong. Even still, 7-9 takes that division, and I’d love to be the team that gets the winner in the playoffs.

  7. coachstram says: Nov 29, 2010 11:21 AM

    Maybe instead of pandering for attention with his “uncommon” approach, Pete might give some consideration to actually coaching and treating men like men, instead of lab experiments.

    Before you can be a Gibbs, Vermiel, Lombardi or Noll, you still have to be a “Kotite”.

  8. joetoronto says: Nov 29, 2010 11:37 AM

    coachstram says: Nov 29, 2010 11:21 AM

    Maybe instead of pandering for attention with his “uncommon” approach, Pete might give some consideration to actually coaching and treating men like men, instead of lab experiments.

    Before you can be a Gibbs, Vermiel, Lombardi or Noll, you still have to be a “Kotite”.
    *********************************************************
    Whoa, you pulled out the “Kotite”. That’s as low as it gets. :)

  9. fran021 says: Nov 29, 2010 11:50 AM

    Solving the problem begins with two words…..”Pete Carroll…..”

  10. vahawker says: Nov 29, 2010 12:36 PM

    Amazing all the non-Hawks fans trying to analyze what’s wrong with the Hawks. What’s wrong is they have a depleted, no talent roster thanks to their previous GM. 5 wins for this bunch should get Carroll coach of the year.

  11. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 29, 2010 1:08 PM

    vahawker says:

    Amazing all the non-Hawks fans trying to analyze what’s wrong with the Hawks. What’s wrong is they have a depleted, no talent roster thanks to their previous GM.
    ____________

    The same GM that brought in numerous FA talents and gave the franchise its only Super Bowl to date (and likely forever)?

    You are an ingrate. Ruskell’s only real mistakes were Branch and Mora. That, and letting career backup material like Hasselbeck continue to start games. Carroll has had his chances in the NFL. He’s failed. That’s not looking to change.

  12. AlanSaysYo says: Nov 29, 2010 1:13 PM

    Rosenthal hit the nail on the head – this 5-6 team is OVERACHIEVING. You can thank the head coach for that. He inherited a literal scrap heap and has somehow milked 5 wins out of it after 11 games. The Seahawks’ roster more closely resembles a UFL team than a NFL one.

    Commenter #2 was right – this is what happens when you have a Super Bowl team and do absolutely nothing to improve it.

    And do you chucklehead jackwagons realize Carroll’s NFL track record as a head coach is 38-37?

  13. joetoronto says: Nov 29, 2010 1:15 PM

    Pete Carroll for coach of the year!

  14. vahawker says: Nov 29, 2010 1:51 PM

    BCS-The team was essentialy set when he came in in ’05. You can look at the roster and tell me Ruskell’s only mistakes were Branch and Mora,Jr.? Seriously?!?!

    Please….Kelly Jennings, Josh Wilson, and LoJack, last three first round picks and don’t forget Branch counts as first rounder and you want to say Branch and Mora were the only mistakes?

  15. trollhammer20 says: Nov 29, 2010 1:55 PM

    “Seattle has injuries, but we don’t think they are atypical at this point of the year.”

    So losing Mebane for several games…then Red Bryant for the season…then Colin Cole to a high ankle sprain…has nothing to do with the run defense going from #2 in the league to giving up 200+ yards against the Giants and Chiefs?

    The DLine has been wiped out since Bryant and Cole both went out against the Raiders. The run defense immediately started suffering after that. Clearly, more depth is needed, but when 2-3 of your starters are out at once, that’s going to create some problems.

    In 11 games, Carroll has won more games with this team than Holmgren did his final season, and already matched Mora’s total from last year.

    “Ruskell’s only real mistakes were Branch and Mora.”

    Go check his track record on first-round picks and get back to the discussion.

  16. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 29, 2010 2:57 PM

    vahawker says:

    BCS-The team was essentialy set when he came in in ’05. You can look at the roster and tell me Ruskell’s only mistakes were Branch and Mora,Jr.? Seriously?!?!
    ____________

    Ruskell (and Holmgren) put you all in the Super Bowl for the first and only time. A little more respect is due.

    You liked your team’s chances in ’04? You’d rather have Annual First Round Loss Thompson back??

    As a Packers fan, I’d gladly give him to you if I could..

  17. mrpbnh says: Nov 29, 2010 3:03 PM

    The reality is that the Seahawks overpaid for a really good cheerleader. In my opinion, Pete Carroll should have been fired fro trading for Whitehurst and then giving him 4 million a year. That should have been a sign that he has no fricken clue what he is doing. He is only as string as the real coaches on the tam and they are aweful. Seahawks had one of the worst Defenses last year and kept the same Coordinator. The Seahawks need to Get a coach that actually knows how to coach in the case that one of his coordinators does not knwo what he is doing which in the Seahawks case is both.

  18. j0esixpack says: Nov 29, 2010 3:12 PM

    The best and only thing Pete Carroll has going for him is his S Cal enthusiasm and ability to stop players from wallowing in depression and begin believing in themselves…

    Given this wallowing it seems like he’s failed, regardless of talent and injury

    The way they’re whining about injuries you’d think they were the Colts or something…

    The Patriots have lost major players on offense and defense for the season… they’re currently rebuilding, but refuse to accept anyone making any excuses… and that’s why they’re 9-2.

  19. jjackwagon says: Nov 29, 2010 4:51 PM

    Whoa Alan,

    What’s wrong with jackwagons?

  20. 1337noob says: Nov 29, 2010 5:58 PM

    Branch and Mora were the only bad choices Ruskell made? Ever heard of Steve Hutchinson? Of course you have, he’s in the pro-bowl and you probably voted for him. How about Julius Jones? Then you had TJ Douchemandzedah. You could probably argue that Aaron Curry at #4 was not a wise draft pick considering that Sanchez and numerous O-linemen were still available (including Oher). And yeah, it was probably good that Ruskell ran Holmgren out of town. I swear half the people who comment here have never watched a football game in their life, they’re just trolls who come here to talk smack.

    Pete Carroll cut half the starters from the team, and we’re already winning more games than we have in years. Our team actually plays hard (especially considering the dire lack of “starting” talent) and is winning games – on the road, and against teams you consider “good” (i.e. San Diego and Chicago). Plus, Carroll and Schneider are taking guys that were cut or waived from other teams’ practice squads and turning them into solid starters who are playing well beyond their ability. You can’t say the same thing for anyone that Seattle has cut, they’re all playing average or worse for their new teams.

    Right now, Carroll should be getting serious consideration for Coach of the Year. Sure, the Seahawks aren’t trendy, and they’re not 9-2, but the fact that they’re even 5-6 with the huge pile of crap that Carroll inherited is freaking AMAZING. I don’t know a single Seahawks fan who feels bummed about our team this season, EVERYBODY is excited about the future. So far, this team is more fun to watch than anything in the last 5 years, and Carroll made that happen NOW.

    Pete Carroll: Coach of the Year.
    Mike Williams: Comeback Player of the Year

    These trolls here are just jealous haters. We Seahawk fans don’t care about you people anyway. We’re used to hearing the smack. We don’t care. We still have the best ownership, the best fans, and a great head coach that we LOVE. Go ahead and hate Pete Carroll. I only hope the rest of the NFL owners are as stupid as some of these fans so that we don’t lose him. Pete Carroll has made the Seahawks fun to watch, and I’m very excited about his future in Seattle. The fact that this rag-tag bunch of nobodies in a rebuild season are even in the running for the playoffs (even in a bad division) speaks for itself. We don’t need any respect. We’re still winning games we shouldn’t win, and we’re still going to get a home playoff game. And if we get a home playoff game, we’ll win it. Which makes Pete Carroll a genius in my opinion. This team shouldn’t have won more than 3 games this season.

  21. 1337noob says: Nov 29, 2010 6:10 PM

    @joesixpack:
    “The Patriots have lost major players on offense and defense for the season… they’re currently rebuilding, but refuse to accept anyone making any excuses… and that’s why they’re 9-2.”

    You’re seriously going to compare New England, with its surplus of draft picks in the first 3 rounds and roster FULL of serious talent, a SuperBowl MVP QB, and the greatest NFL coach of all time to the Seahawks’ situation? Seriously? How do you figure the Patriots are in rebuild mode?

    Hint: you aren’t in rebuild mode when your QB is still in his prime and arguably one of the greatest of all time, with receivers who can actually catch, and players you can still trade for more draft picks. Rebuild mode means you are starting with nothing. Unless you concede that Belichick and Brady are nobodies who shouldn’t be in the NFL, then shut up with that rebuild talk. Go talk to Carolina, St Louis and Detroit fans about rebuild mode. I’m sure they’d love to trade teams, and they’d probably get a big laugh from your stupidity like I did.

    Comparing the Patriots to the Seahawks, that just cracks me up.

  22. sweetnlow44 says: Nov 29, 2010 8:18 PM

    BCS, A little more respect is due for Ruskell? You can’t be serious. This team is garbage right now strictly because of him and his refusal to put any talent on our lines and draft midgets in our secondary. Holmgren put together the team that went to the Superbowl and Ruskell quickly ruined that team.

    What, are you Ruskell’s brother or something? He’s almost hated in Seattle as much as Clay Bennett and Howard Schultz.

    All the fools on here saying the Seahawks are destined to suck because of Carroll obviously don’t know anything of what Ruskell did to this team. As has been stated before, it’s amazing they’ve won 5 games with their current roster. Add to that the Seahawks have had 9 different starting offensive lines in 11 games, 3 of 4 starters injured on the D-line at the same time, and a defensive coordinator who has no business being in football and you have what we’ve seen the past few weeks from this team. It will take at least 2 years for this team to get enough talent to be legitimately competitive. And that’s only if they draft and trade flawlessly in that time.

  23. vahawker says: Nov 29, 2010 9:18 PM

    “Ruskell (and Holmgren) put you all in the Super Bowl for the first and only time. A little more respect is due.”

    ***********************************************
    Again, the team was pretty much set when Numbskull came in..He added Tatupu who had a huge rookie years and Hill who played lights out too.

    Over the next four years Ruskell dismantled that Super Bowl team and turned it into what you see today(without the upgrades Schneider and Carroll have brought)

  24. cthunder67 says: Nov 30, 2010 3:03 AM

    I love how all you non Seahawk fans come on here and blast the team and Pete Carrol. Let’s see …

    #1. Hasslebeck (who is really part of the problem) Said it best the team is too injured. Seattle played that game without 2 starting D- Linemen, 2 starting O-linemen and their #1 WR. You can’t lose 2-3 starters from your D-line and think you will be the same team without them. Especially against the #1 rushing team in the league.

    #2 So they kneeled down. It wasn’t like their was time to get TD, Onside kick and another score.

    #3 The Hawks have been playing with Injured players since the Raiders game and keep losing starters everyone week.

    While I am a die hard Seahawks fan I HATE Pete Carrol (UCLA FAN) with a passion. But I absolutely love what Carroll has done with my Seahawks. He came in and completely changed the atmosphere and created competition for everyone’s starting job. And while doing so blew up a no talent Roster left over from the previous regime. The Hawks have a old backup QB as a starter – who unfortunately gives the Hawks the best chance to win. And is part of the problem. Imagine if the Hawks had Bradford as QB instead of broke ass Hasslebeck?

    No one and mean no (except us Hawkfans) expected Carroll to come in and have a winning season or win more than 7 games this year. We all know this team is in rebuilding mode and it will take at LEAST 3 years to get back to playoff caliber. But I will take what he has done with this team than go back to Ruskell, Mora or predictable Holgrem.

  25. pshrg says: Nov 30, 2010 4:41 AM

    “And if we get a home playoff game, we’ll win it.”

    *******

    Um… if the playoffs started today, we’d be playing either the Giants or the Saints in the WC playoff. We don’t win either of those.

    Saying this as a Seahawk fan. Not a troll.

    Mike Williams as Most Improved Player, maybe. Carroll as Coach Of The Year, good Lord, no. Not with 6 losses, each by more than 15 points.

    This is still a rebuilding year. You don’t get Coach Of The Year during a rebuilding year.

  26. pshrg says: Nov 30, 2010 4:42 AM

    “Um… if the playoffs started today, we’d be playing either the Giants or the Saints in the WC playoff. We don’t win either of those.”

    *********

    Actually, let me correct myself: If the playoffs started today, the Rams would win the division.

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