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Week 12 Monday 10-pack

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There’s never a dull moment in the NFL.  And we love every moment of it.

Especially when those moments are being surreptitiously recorded.

So read on.  But make sure the boss isn’t taping you.

1.  McDaniels got off way too easy.

With the Sunday news cycle quickly moving in the direction of a potential Belichick bridge burning by former Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, there has yet to be much discussion or debate regarding the question of whether McDaniels should have suffered a stiffer punishment at the hands of the league and/or the Broncos.

Here’s the reality.  McDaniels knew that his employee, former director of video operations Steve Scarnecchia, had cheated.  And McDaniels opted to bury it.  Though there’s no evidence that McDaniels engaged in a full blown cover-up, he didn’t need to.

Or, more accurately, he didn’t realize that he needed to.

But for the blowing of the proverbial whistle on the man who wears one around his neck, no one would have known anything about Scarnecchia’s skullduggery.  Given the plain terms of the league’s Integrity of Game Policy, that shouldn’t have happened:  “The Chief Executive, President, General Manager, and Head Coach shall have an affirmative duty to promptly report any actual or suspected competitive violations to Ray Anderson, Executive Vice President for Football Operations.”

The policy goes on to state that failure to make a prompt report constitutes conduct detrimental to the league.

So how does McDaniels get fined only $50,000 for engaging in conduct detrimental to the league, especially since he was part of the Patriots team that engaged in a pattern of cheating (via the videotaping of in-game defensive coaching signals) over a period of years?

At a time when the league is fining players $50,000 or more for playing the game too aggressively, how can the conscious failure to disregard the plain terms of the Integrity of Game Policy not trigger a much more significant punishment?

Men like Steelers linebacker James Harrison have every right to complain.  Ditto for the union, which is searching for talking points that will resonate with the public, the media, and the politicians in conjunction with the ongoing labor mess.

And there’s no better talking point than proof of a possible double standard.

2.  Fighting needs to draw bigger penalties, too.

Players who deliver illegal hits before the whistle blows have another source of mixed signals about which legitimate complaints can be made.  Deliberate violence inflicted after the whistle carries a much lower price tag.

Last week, Raiders defensive lineman Richard Seymour was fined only $25,000 for delivering an open-handed WWE punch to the facemask of Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.  This week, Texans receiver Andre Johnson and Titans cornerback Cortland Finnegan ripped off each other’s helmets and proceeded to try to beat each other up.  (Only Johnson succeeded.)

Based on the precedent set by the Seymour situation, fines likely will be in order.  (That said, Finnegan’s history will nudge him closer to a possible suspension.)

If the league is serious about protecting players for blows to the head that occur during a play, the league needs to be even more vigilant about blows to the head that occur after the play has ended.  Failure to do so serves only to make the league’s crusade against helmet-to-helmet hits seems more confusing and arbitrary.

3.  Ron Rivera needs to be a head coach.  Now.

Chargers coach Norv Turner is an offensive genius.  Which means that he had little if anything to do with the masterful defensive performance on Sunday night that saw Colts quarterback Peyton Manning rattled and rushed en route to four interceptions.  Which means that the guy who orchestrated that defensive performance is a damn good football coach.

That coach is Ron Rivera, San Diego’s defensive coordinator.  On the “A” list during the short period after Super Bowl XLI (when he served as Chicago’s defensive coordinator) until his contract with the Bears wasn’t renewed, Rivera never is mentioned as a potential head-coaching candidate.

After last night, he should be.

If the Titans decide to keep quarterback Vince Young and fire coach Jeff Fisher, Bud Adams’ first call should be placed to Rivera, who would be charged with doing to Manning twice per year that which Rivera’s Chargers did to Manning on Sunday night.

And every other defensive coordinator should be studying the tape and doing to Peyton Manning exactly what Rivera and the Chargers did.  If that happens, the Colts eight-year playoff run will likely end.

4.  Jeff Fisher’s seat gets hotter.

It’s entirely possible that Titans coach Jeff Fisher would prefer to be fired than to be forced to continue to work with quarterback Vince Young.  Either way, the performance of Fisher’s team on Sunday at Houston has nudged him closer to becoming the former coach of the team.

Apart from being embarrassed and shut out in the city from whence the Titans came, a city whose current team Titans owner Bud Adams wants to beat more than any other, there’s a perception that Fisher tilted the game plan toward the pass in order to prove that the Titans can win with Rusty Smith and without Vince Yong.

And that’s the dilemma Fisher faces.  Though he doesn’t want Young in 2011 or beyond, Fisher will need to be able to sell Adams on an alternative.  Kerry Collins is pushing 50 (not really, but he looks it), and thus the only Plan B is Rusty Smith.

In Fisher’s zeal to prove that Smith can get it done, running back Chris Johnson’s role in the offense was minimized.  And we’ve heard that Johnson isn’t happy about that.  Thus, Fisher could now be in danger of losing the one group in the organization that squarely had been in his corner — the locker room.

If that happens, it’ll be time for Fisher to find a new locker room.

5.  Dwayne Bowe could give Moss a run for his money.

Three years ago, receiver Randy Moss broke Jerry Rice’s record for touchdown receptions in a single season.  This year, an unlikely candidate has emerged to challenge the mark.

But it’s not one of the supposedly “best” receivers in the league.  With 13 touchdowns in seven games, Chiefs wideout Dwayne Bowe suddenly has positioned himself to make a run at the record books.

It doesn’t help that he had only one touchdown reception in the first four games of the year.  But with an average of two per game in the final five, Bowe will break the record.

Sure, an average of two per game sounds like a lot.  But with 13 in seven, Bowe is only one touchdown off that pace.

Even if he doesn’t get it done, he now needs to be added to the list of the supposedly “best” receivers in the league.

6.  Falcons soaring, but not dominating.

The Falcons are now 19-1 at home under quarterback Matt Ryan.  They’re 9-2 and currently in possession of the top seed in the NFC playoff field.

But they’re not winning convincingly.  They’re winning, and they’re beating quality teams.  But they edged the Packers by three, 20-17.  And they got lucky late against the Ravens, thanks to a pass interference penalty that wasn’t called.  And they beat the Bucs at home by only six, and the Bengals at home by only seven.  And the 49ers at home by only two.

It won’t matter when the time comes to sort out home-field advantage.  But it will matter when those home playoff games are played, since while the Falcons are good enough to win those close games in the regular season, a postseason toe-stubbing at the Georgia Dome would end the franchise’s most promising season since 1998.

7.  Let the NFC scrum begin.

With five weeks to play, the NFC playoff picture has a long way to go before it will even approach something resembling focus.

In the NFC West, the Rams and Seahawks are knotted at 5-6.  The winner of Monday night’s game will be only one game out of first place; the loser only two.

In the NFC East, the Eagles and Giants are tied once again.  They’re both 7-4, and they play each other again in December.

In the NFC North, the Bears have established a one-game lead over the supposedly superior Packers.  They, too, have one more mutual appointment.

In the NFC South, the Falcons are 9-2, the Saints are 8-3, and the Bucs are 7-4.

As we’ve previously pointed out, two of those seven non-NFC West playoff-caliber teams won’t make it to the playoffs.  And one of them — the fifth seed — will have to go to Seattle or St. Louis for a wild-card game that won’t be such a walk in the park, especially since the Seahawks or Rams (or Cardinals or 49ers) will be out to prove wrong everyone who’ll say they’re the worst playoff team in NFL history.  Though it all may fuel a push for future reseeding in the postseason, it will give us an intriguing playoff chase over the last month of the 2010 season.

8.  It’s harder than usual to be a Bills fan this year.

Early in the season, the Bills were blown out a couple of times, by the Packers in Week Two and by the Jets in Week Four.  After a Week Six bye, the Bills woke up.

But they still have won only two of their last six games.

Along the way, they pushed three playoff contenders to overtime — the 8-3 Ravens, the 7-4 Chiefs, and most recently the 8-3 Steelers.  They also pushed the 8-3 Bears to the brink in Toronto, losing by only three points.  (The combined record of those teams?  31-13.)

The most recent loss, fueled by an inexplicable drop by Bills receiver Steve Johnson of what would have been the game-winning touchdown pass, surely hurts worse than any of the others.  The Steelers are the Bills’ rich neighbors to the south, with six of the one thing that Buffalo fans would love to have more than anything else.  Even if the playoffs are out of the question for the Bills, helping to keep the Steelers from getting their seventh Super Bowl trophy would have been a big bonus in an otherwise lost season.

In many respects, it’s easier to stomach a blowout than a narrow loss.  The Bills have a belly full of close calls, and their loyal fans have to be feeling even sicker than they have in recent years.  The only thing worse than being bad is being highly competitive and yet still unsuccessful, and that’s precisely what the Bills have been for most of the season.

9.  Could Favre give it one more go?

It’s a ridiculous question, we know.  The chances of quarterback Brett Favre returning to Minnesota in 2011 are slimmer than ever, especially since the Vikings likely won’t want him to come back for a third season.  But Favre was a different guy on Sunday, and when he gave interim coach Leslie Frazier the game ball after a 17-13 win over the Redskins, it reminded us of Paul Crewe sticking the pigskin into Warden Hazen’s stomach.

This time around, Hazen (i.e., Chilly) was watching from home.

And when Favre made like Elway (sans helicopter) and ran for a key first down, it reminded us of the fateful play in the closing moments of the NFC title game, when Favre rolled right and instead of running threw left — causing Vikings fans to throw up.  This time around, Favre was once again youthful and exuberant and even in a largely meaningless game he found a way to treat it like it had meaning.

Who knows?  If the defensive-minded Frazier gets the job and Favre and his buddy, Darrell Bevell are essentially given the keys to the offense, Favre could be interested in giving it one more go.

Especially if Favre needs to add some more feathers to his nest after funding a possible off-season divorce settlement.

10.  League needs Spygate II to go away, quickly.

The last word for today’s 10-pack likely won’t be the last word on Spygate II.  But the league probably wishes it were.

In our view, the NFL wants and needs Spygate II to evaporate, now.  At a time when the NFL Players Association has been trying to get Congress to apply pressure to the NFL antitrust exemption or the non-profit status of the league office (an exercise equivalent to planting a land mine in an enemy’s front yard and then jumping on it), another cheating scandal could snap the giant out of its slumber, and it could prompt federal legislators to begin the kind of rabble rousing seen from Senator Arlen Spector in the wake of Spygate I.

Last time, Spector couldn’t muster any support from his colleagues.  This time, the NFL probably didn’t want the situation to hang around long enough to catch anyone’s attention in D.C.

We can understand why the NFL would want to turn the page quickly.  But when, as mentioned earlier, it creates an inconsistent message regarding the consequences of rough-but-honest efforts from players and cheating by coaches, collateral concerns like damage control shouldn’t influence the magnitude of the penalty imposed.

Think of it this way.  If the league had fined McDaniels $250,000 and stripped a draft pick or two from the Broncos, would it have been a much bigger story?

With the relatively small fine and a neat and tidy (albeit not all that credible) explanation that Broncos coach Josh McDaniels didn’t watch the video of the 49ers’ walk-through practice — a proposition that necessarily requires the NFL to take McDaniels at his word — Spygate II won’t have the same staying power at the box office as the original.

And that’s fine by the league, which must now sweat out the question of whether this story will end up being a trilogy.

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27 Responses to “Week 12 Monday 10-pack”
  1. Stiller43 says: Nov 29, 2010 9:18 AM

    Re to Spygate II:

    The league did what seems to be the smartest thing. The story broke late week, so they decided to just slam them on the wrist with a small fine on before the weekends games, knowing that once the games are played that the bigger stories would be playoff races and intriguing matchups for next week. They wouldn’t have wanted this lingering during the week with little other NFL news.

    Is it right? Probably not…the right move for the NFL? Most likely.

  2. daveydawg says: Nov 29, 2010 9:36 AM

    once and for all, just open up the vaults, and let’s hear what EVERYONE was doing pre-Spygate. That’s the only way to put this to bed. A league-wide memo was sent out about the practice… implying it was a league-wide practice. Lets hear it. I still don’t see what the big deal is, really. They watch video tape of every play of every game, still shots, and if you change your play signals like you should, I don’t see what the problem is… put it this way, it is a hell of a lot less egregious than say intercepting audio transmissions or blocking them.

  3. sfsaintsfan says: Nov 29, 2010 9:37 AM

    “The Falcons are now 19-1 at home under quarterback Matt Ryan. They’re 9-2 and currently in possession of the top seed in the NFC playoff field.

    But they’re not winning convincingly. They’re winning, and they’re beating quality teams. But they edged the Packers by three, 20-17. And they got lucky late against the Ravens, thanks to a pass interference penalty that wasn’t called. And they beat the Bucs at home by only six, and the Bengals at home by only seven. And the 49ers at home by only two.”

    You left out the win against the Saints in New Orleans. The Falcons won the game in overtime by three points after the Saints missed a chip shot 29 yard field goal that would have won the game.

    The Falcons are a very good team (although I think their coach is a flake) and the only other real threat to the number one seed in the NFC is from the Saints. It is very possible that the winner of the NFC South will be the number one seed and the runner up will be the top wild card team. The Monday Night game, Saints at Falcons, on December 27th could decide the division and the number one seed in the NFC.

  4. tim1999 says: Nov 29, 2010 9:38 AM

    Get a clue Mike.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2007/12/12/2007-12-12_spy_for_a_spy_jets_started_video_battle-1.html

  5. steelers6pack says: Nov 29, 2010 9:43 AM

    Its a fine and possib;e suspension to hit a player legally, however for ripping each others helmet off and fist fighting gets a 15 minuet ejection? If no suspension, this shows that Godell is nto as tough as people make him out to be! I am waitign for Harrison to fight now if there is no suspension!

  6. William Carlson II says: Nov 29, 2010 9:58 AM

    McDaniels is a blight that needs to be removed. He’s done nothing to show he deserves to be a head coach, much less the Bronco’s head coach; he has no class. Leadership starts at the top, and by not reporting the incident he tacitly says it’s okay to cheat, regardless of whether he looked at the tape or not.

    Fans here in Denver are tired of him not only trying to turn the Broncos into the Patriots West, but also slowly destroying our team and it’s reputation.

  7. somesome says: Nov 29, 2010 10:04 AM

    steelers6pack says:
    Nov 29, 2010 9:43 AM
    Its a fine and possib;e suspension to hit a player legally, however for ripping each others helmet off and fist fighting gets a 15 minuet ejection? If no suspension, this shows that Godell is nto as tough as people make him out to be! I am waitign for Harrison to fight now if there is no suspension!
    ————————————

    Your post doesn’t even make sense. So what you are saying is that Harrison is trying to do everything that is borderline illegal/fineable/suspendable in the NFL?????

    Steeler fans have absolutely no gripe complaining. Harrison is his own worst enemy. The only person at fault is Harrison.
    Instead of driving forward tackling Fitzgerald he launches himself upward into his chest and of course sliding up and hitting him inadvertantly in the head. He knows eveyone is watching him and he still does not show proper form. Yeah, punching somebody would really be a change of pace for him.

  8. giablommi says: Nov 29, 2010 10:08 AM

    “So how does McDaniels get fined only $50,000 for engaging in conduct detrimental to the league, especially since he was part of the Patriots team that engaged in a pattern of cheating (via the videotaping of in-game defensive coaching signals) over a period of years?”
    ^^^^^
    You, Mike Florio, are a muckraker, a yellow journalist, and a clueless buffoon. You have turned a once credible source for NFL news into a tabloid production, more concerned with page
    hits, hit pieces and the most overly sensationalized sports “scandal” in sports history than bringing your readers credible, relevant, legitimate information.

    You have eliminated any doubt that once almighty, independent minded PFT has jumped the shark into the vast wasteland of worthless corporate media. Congrats.

  9. daveydawg says: Nov 29, 2010 10:12 AM

    “It’s no big deal,” former Cowboys and Dolphins coach Jimmy Johnson told the Daily News yesterday. “Everybody made too much out of it when it happened. This stuff has been going on for 20 years. I did it, too.”

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2007/12/12/2007-12-12_spy_for_a_spy_jets_started_video_battle-1.html#ixzz16gVIY4zS

    So I guess THOSE COWBOY SUPERBOWLS ARE TAINTED TOO.

  10. mrconnors says: Nov 29, 2010 10:14 AM

    I’ll ask again, Florio. How does a team who “knows every play coming” on defense only score 3 offensive touchdowns in three games during their playoff run in 2001.

    By the way, Mike Ditka was on M&M and said something like “who really cares, if you want to know what the other team is doing, watch the film. We filmed practices of every team. Big deal.”

    But let me guess, he’s covering up for the NFL shield, right? And all the morons on PFT know what really went down.

  11. gallopingghost says: Nov 29, 2010 10:29 AM

    Good point, Rivera is head coach material and would revamp the once intimidating TEN defense. He would also work wonders in MIA, CIN, HOU, DAL, WAS, DET, CAR, or anywhere in NFC West. He’s the ultimate coach for playing to a defenses strengths and taking things away from the opposing offense.

    Anyone who says the only threat in the NFC t the Falcons is the Saints is delusional. The Saints may very well miss the playoffs this year, although they are a good team with hot races in the North South and East at least one good team will be at home watching in January. But the Giants, Eagles, Bears, and Packers are all very good teams. I’d take any of them against the Saints if they played Sunday, and 3/4 agains the Falcons.

  12. omegaichiban says: Nov 29, 2010 10:35 AM

    B. Farve made up in his mind, (probably before the play was called) that he was going to throw to Rice last year. He could have easily ran for @ least 5 if not a first down, and he ignored a wide open man. That’s why you love/hate him. Harrison made a good tackle, textbook actually, but if a molecule of his helmet touches another…he’s going down, so he needs to change his game.

  13. sethb222 says: Nov 29, 2010 10:55 AM

    Dwayne Bowe can’t be considered a top receiver until he stops dropping so many balls.

  14. 6isgr8lamehaters says: Nov 29, 2010 11:41 AM

    @somesome

    You’re a point blank Idiot, yes with a capital I. Let’s just state the facts their jag-off. Harrison’s hit was reviewed last night by the likes of Dilfer, Jackson and others on ESPN. Let’s suffice to say that they agree with the rest of the non-delusional world. The hit wasn’t dirty, but yes it was hard and to the upper chest area. No helmet to helmet.

    If you are looking for grown men to wear skirts, put flags on the sides that can be easily ripped off without any physical contact, then STFU and stay off the PFT boards. You need to be watching figure skating on NBC on sunday afternoons.

    And if by chance you are an unfortunate Bills fan, I am sorry. If you actually watched the end of the game when the officials called 2 inconsistent and incorrect holding calls, you’d better understand the league has major issues with erroneous officiating that is rampant in some games (Raiders-Steelers week 11) and obvious but not as rampant (Bills-Steelers Week 12).

    What are the 2 holding calls you so kindly ask?
    The first one occurs with Keomatu being incorrectly called for a hold that ultimately cost the Steelers a chance at a 1st down, after which they punted and gave the Bills the opportunity to kick the game tying FG.

    The other occurs on the Bills, but you wouldn’t know it because they never effin called it. Lamar Woodley is rushing the right side of the Bills o-line and gets strangled as he comes up just short of reducing Fitzpatrick to a crumbled mess. They showed the play a few times, and hell even I can’t remember why. But, the reality is that the STRIPES have been informed by God-dell and his effin cronies, to “miss” holding calls on Woodley, Harrison and others on the Steelers, because they want to protect the QBs and also make the games more competitive.

    If you had eyes and you are a Bills fan, the outcome for yesterday’s game was justified. Some of the blatant calls (the PF on Harrison for a legitimate hit) and non calls (the blatant hold on Woodley) that would have ended the Bills opportunity to kick a FG inside of 50 …. were ultimately cancelled out by the outcome that should have been in the first place. The Steelers get the victory once again despite the BS calls on the field.

    Now, getting back to your original post … go put on your pink skirt, pink velcro flags and go to your local ice skating rink for some non-contact fun. Until you post something that reflects reality, STFU and have fun skating.

  15. bunkmcnulty says: Nov 29, 2010 11:53 AM

    somesome says:
    Nov 29, 2010 10:04 AM
    steelers6pack says:
    Nov 29, 2010 9:43 AM
    Its a fine and possib;e suspension to hit a player legally, however for ripping each others helmet off and fist fighting gets a 15 minuet ejection? If no suspension, this shows that Godell is nto as tough as people make him out to be! I am waitign for Harrison to fight now if there is no suspension!
    ————————————

    Your post doesn’t even make sense. So what you are saying is that Harrison is trying to do everything that is borderline illegal/fineable/suspendable in the NFL?????

    Steeler fans have absolutely no gripe complaining. Harrison is his own worst enemy. The only person at fault is Harrison.
    Instead of driving forward tackling Fitzgerald he launches himself upward into his chest and of course sliding up and hitting him inadvertantly in the head. He knows eveyone is watching him and he still does not show proper form. Yeah, punching somebody would really be a change of pace for him.
    ____________________
    Somesome – great analysis. Polamalu is class of the Steelers. Smart, hard/tough hitter…clean. Harrison has acted like this for a long time. Zebra’s are on to his act. To suggest he starts throwing punches (and I realize that the writer is being absurd on purpose) is idiotic. Not what this game needs. Harrison needs to play smart. Seems like that is impossible for him.

  16. touchdownroddywhite says: Nov 29, 2010 12:03 PM

    “You have eliminated any doubt that once almighty, independent minded PFT has jumped the shark into the vast wasteland of worthless corporate media. Congrats.”

    @giablommi – And while you are sitting at your 9-5 slaving away, this dude is raking in the moola to watch football games and talk about football. Hate away, but whether you like what he writes or not, you’re still putting money in his pocket, and his reading your criticisms with a giant grin and a pocket full of cash. I know I would be…

  17. touchdownroddywhite says: Nov 29, 2010 12:06 PM

    Polomalu was the giver of one of the worst special teams penalties I’ve ever seen in my life while he was in college. Don’t go praising him too much, now.

    “Polamalu is class of the Steelers. Smart, hard/tough hitter…clean.”

    Yeah… REAL clean player, this guy is.(insert major sarcasm)

  18. somesome says: Nov 29, 2010 12:20 PM

    @6isgr8lamehaters says

    typical Steelers fan has to be out right nasty and derrogative. I am a Ravens fan, I am all for hard hitting and physical football. It has nothing to do with putting on skirts. Every weekend we have close to 2,000 tackles and hits and maybe a handful of them are being fined or reviewed. If the same name pops up in the discussion it just shows that that player is just too dumb to grasp the rules and you just do not get the benefit of the doubt.

    As for say Andre, he is one of the nicest guys you can ever meet and guess what he did, he apologized for his behavior immediately and already conceded that he most likely will get suspended for it. And because of that he may get the benefit of the doubt and just a fine. Unlike Harrison who just mopes around, contemplaiting retirement because if the rules are actually being applied he cannot continue his way of playing.

    Hard hitters are being fined on every team for a bad hit here and there.

    Enjoy what should be a great football weekend with hard hitting Steelers/Ravens and Pats/Jets. Maybe Harrison should sit this one out and watch and learn something, just a thought.

    Go Ravens!!!
    …and Steeler fans JUST STOP WHINING, you are worse than some Ravens fans, sheeesh, seriously.

  19. sfsaintsfan says: Nov 29, 2010 12:51 PM

    gallopingghost:

    “Anyone who says the only threat in the NFC t the Falcons is the Saints is delusional.”

    I think you are correct. I should have included the Eagles and Bears in the mix because of their head to head wins against the Falcons. Look at the remaining schedule of the contenders for the #1 seed and their current conference records:

    Falcons 9-2 (6-1 in NFC):
    Head to head loss to Eagles
    Head to head win versus Packers
    Head to head win versus Saints with one game remaining.
    Remaining tough NFC games at Bucs home against Saints and at Seattle.
    Projected record 13-3 (10-2 in NFC) or 12-4 (9-3 in NFC)

    Bears 8-3 (6-3 in NFC)
    Head to head win versus Packers
    Head to head win versus Eagles
    Head to head loss to Giants
    Remaining tough NFC game at Green Bay.
    Remaining tough AFC games Patriots and Jets
    Projected record 12-4 (NFC record of 9-3 or 8-4) or 11-5 (NFC record of 9-3 or 8-4)

    Saints 8-3 (7-2 in NFC)
    Head to head loss to Falcons
    (No games against any other NFC playoff contenders….sorry Cowboys and Vikings.)
    Remaining tough NFC games at Atlanta and at home versus Bucs.
    Tough AFC game at Baltimore.
    Projected record 12-4 (NFC record of 10-2 or 9-3) or 11-5 (NFC record of 9-3)

    Eagles 7-4 (5-3 in NFC)
    Head to head loss to Green Bay
    Head to head win versus Atlanta
    Head to head win versus Giants
    Head to head loss to Bears
    Remaining tough NFC games at Giants (plus two games against Cowboys and one against Vikings….who knows? Both good teams having bad years.)
    Projected record 12-4 (9-3 in NFC) or 11-5 (8-4 in NFC)

    Green Bay 7-4 (5-3 in NFC)
    Head to head win versus Eagles
    Head to head loss to Chicago (with one to play)
    Head to head loss to Atlanta
    Remaining tough NFC games Giants and Bears
    remaining tough AFC games at New England
    Projected record 11-5 (9-3 in NFC or 8-4 in NFC) or 10-6 (NFC record of 8-4 or 7-5)

    Giants 7-4 (5-2 in NFC)
    Head to head win versus Chicago
    Head to head loss to Eagles with one to play
    Remaining tough NFC games Eagles, at Green Bay (along with two games against Redskins and one against Vikings)
    Projected record 11-5 (9-3 in NFC) or 10-6 (8-4 in NFC)

    Tampa Bay 7-4 (5-2 in NFC)
    Head to head loss to Atlanta (with one to play)
    Head to head loss to Saints (with one to play)
    Remaining tough NFC games Atlanta, at Saints (along with games against Washington and Seattle)
    Projected record 11-5 (9-3 in NFC) or 10-6 (8-4 in NFC)

    After looking at all of the above, assume that the best record in the NFC is 12-4 at the end of the season. (If it is 13-3 it would be very likely be only one team and that team would be the Falcons.) If 12-4 is the best record and IF the Saints beat the Falcons AND win the South they would be up against the other 12-4 teams for the number 1 seed. The tie breaker would be head to head (the Saints played no other contenders) and then NFC record. I project the Saints as having either a 10-2 NFC record, which would probably be the best NFC record (only the Giants would be a threat for 10-2 in NFC) or 9-3 in the NFC which would possibly tie with the Bears or Eagles or Green Bay who each have 3 NFC losses already.

    After looking at all of the match-ups, I believe the number one seed in the NFC will come out of the NFC South. Either the Falcons or the Saints. Look at the NFC records, head to head and the remaining NFC games and consider that the Falcons have at least a one game lead on every other contender and a two game lead on every team they have lost to. The most likely threat to the number one seed would be the Saints.

  20. 6isgr8lamehaters says: Nov 29, 2010 1:08 PM

    @ somesome

    Geez … should have figured. Why the hell would anyone other than a dirty bird or bungles fan get onto a post and create issues with James Harrison.

    You have no credibility whatsoever. In fact, you’re just a hypocrite in that you’re a Ray Lewis butt buddy.

    So for now, I won’t waste anymore time on your lame-o comments. Just STFU and have a merry day.

  21. 6isgr8lamehaters says: Nov 29, 2010 1:20 PM

    @ somesome

    Forgot one last comment … the hit on Fitzpatrick yesterday was legitimate. The fact that you utilized the Monday 10-pack to make a comment about James Harrison, when in fact the story lines have nothing to do with Harrison other than pointing out that McDaniels is a cheating ars, further emphasize your level of hypocrisy and lack of intelligence.

    Ray Lewis is a criminal and he’s dirty, as are other dirty birds on the Ravens. Harrison is a hard hitting SOB that any “intelligent” football fan would love to have on their D. In each of the hits where he’s been fined this year, he never “launched” directly into another player’s head. He just plays hard and sometimes or rather, on a highly infrequent basis (2 plays in 11 games) he has unfortunately made helmet to helmet contact. Both against the Browns, neither one outright deliberate. He has legitimate reason to complain and whine based upon the BS at the league office and with the stripes on the field.

    See you Sunday night Az-Whole.

  22. bunkmcnulty says: Nov 29, 2010 1:53 PM

    @6isgr8lamehaters

    Just like the Steelers fans you represent. Can’t win an argument, then pull the old “Ray Lewis killer” comments out of the bag. Nicely sprinkled with smutty trashy comments. Just like your city, not progressive; not able to move forward; foul mouthed. No wonder so many have migrated to the Baltimore-Washington markets. We have the intellect to have jobs and an economy. You all serve us well down here.

    Oh, it seems to me your QB may have his own issues if we are going to start airing dirty laundry. But why would you want to be fair and discuss his misgivings as well.

    You have a decent team with flaws, just like everyone else. Harrison can be a good player. But pretending Harrison doesn’t have issues shows how uninformed you are about football. Can you once be objective? Of course not. Those multi-sylabic words are a little too tough for you to understand.

    See you Sunday night.

  23. bunkmcnulty says: Nov 29, 2010 2:42 PM

    @@6isgr8lamehaters
    By the way, it was your Steeler brethern that brought up Harrison. Perhaps you could try reading the comments section and read all the comments.

  24. raiders4life says: Nov 29, 2010 3:04 PM

    “Spygate 3-D” will round out this trilogy. Look for the final installment to involve another Belichick discliple, Todd Haley and his KC Chiefs. They definately have to be cheating to be where they currently are in respect to their 1st place record.

  25. somesome says: Nov 29, 2010 3:51 PM

    Too cute, I did not start this, it was a Steelers fan.
    Second I am already right, no suspension for Andre Johnson, just a fine.

    See you Sunday night, can’t wait.

    Go Ravens!!!

  26. touchdownroddywhite says: Nov 29, 2010 4:19 PM

    Just wanted to point out that the Bears have a much tougher schedule coming up than the Falcons who in addition to getting Seattle still get to face off against the Panthers twice. All they have to do to pretty much guarantee a division win is beat the Saints and sweep the Panthers, or watch the Saints fall to the Ravens and sweep the Bucs and Panthers.

    The biggest threat to the Falcons is going to be the Saints or Eagles at this point, considering Tampa Bay doesn’t seem capable of beating a winning team.

  27. malgorthewarrior says: Nov 30, 2010 11:44 AM

    The Falcons are the best team in the NFL that gets no love. Few picked them to beat Green Bay. Then they defeated them, and now this jackass is trying to minimize their success as much as possible. The best part is the way everyone does it is by saying they aren’t “winning convincingly”.

    News flash: most playoff games are tight and come down to a few key plays at the end of the game. The Falcons are used to that style of play. Run the ball, play defense, minimize turnovers, and capitalize on late game opportunities. As Florio pointed out, they have already done that against some of the best teams in the league.

    There is no asterisk next to the W that notes it wasn’t convincing. If you win a game in the playoffs on the last play, they don’t scratch it and order a do-over.

    Not even a Falcons fan, but tired of ignorant football commentators insulting my intelligence by blowing teams like the Packers even when they lose. Very Peter King-like (biggest idiot in football media).

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