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NFL fines James Harrison $25,000

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Another week, another hefty fine for Steelers linebacker James Harrison.

Harrison was informed that he has been fined $25,000 today for a roughing-the-passer penalty in Sunday’s game against the Bills, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette is reporting.

Harrison’s latest hit was a shot to Bills quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick. He previously has been fined $75,000 for a hit on Browns receiver Mohamed Massaquoi, $20,000 for a hit on Saints quarterback Drew Brees and $5,000 for a hit on Titans quarterback Vince Young.

So for those keeping track, that’s $125,000 for four hits this season.

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  1. foobarfoofoo says: Nov 30, 2010 3:55 PM

    Can anybody explain why he doesn’t get suspended? Does he have to kill somebody on the field?

  2. wtf2812 says: Nov 30, 2010 3:56 PM

    You keep finin’.

    James will keep killin’.

  3. jamesharrisonfoundation says: Nov 30, 2010 3:58 PM

    F this. James next time just rip off his helment and punch him in the face a few times. It will draw the same fine, cause more damage, and you wont get the “dirty player” tag…

    Seriously Goddell, get your act together because its really getting old.

  4. Chargers have no rings says: Nov 30, 2010 3:58 PM

    Here some the Steeler poor me cries…………

  5. johnteedee says: Nov 30, 2010 3:58 PM

    There is a real lack of consistency with the NFL. Not only with fines but who gets them and how much. Since Goodell has been in charge, the NFL is going downhill. No new labor contract and inconsistencies with fines, rules, interpretations, etc. It is time to protect the NFL and Goodell needs to go! Someone should start a web site “firegoodell.com”. It would be interesting to see how many hits this would get and if it would get the owners attention.

  6. mikea311 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:00 PM

    good thing the NFL is making good on all that suspension talk.

  7. cincinnasti says: Nov 30, 2010 4:03 PM

    For $25,000 he could of knocked Derek Anderson out in the middle of the field. Inconsistent Mr. Goodell… Shouldn’t the fines be going up as he continues to break the rules?

  8. flabtreesports says: Nov 30, 2010 4:04 PM

    That was only marginally worse than Suggs’ hit on Carson in week 2, and not even comparable to the AJ/CF show this weekend. Having said that, if he would just lead with the shoulder a couple times, he might get used to it.

  9. hobartbaker says: Nov 30, 2010 4:06 PM

    The funds will be held in trust for the player that finally pulls down the curtain on “Egregious Act” once and for all. Or at least puts him out for the season.

  10. buckeye044 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:07 PM

    Unbelievable. $25k for a head up, wrap up tackle.
    Might be time for the Ambassador or his son or Tomlin to call out the officiating in public with a powerpoint presentation of James’ hits and hits of others around the league.

  11. steelersmichele says: Nov 30, 2010 4:07 PM

    I guess the lower fine means the hit wasn’t that bad because he didn’t use his full body weight :)

    And to think a few years back the league named him Defensive Player of the Year for the way he plays. Guess back then the league liked his “dirty” style, huh?

  12. ineptguy6 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:08 PM

    Well this is an absolute joke. Facemask squarely in the chest. Harrison needs to change his name and number if he wants to have a prayer of touching a qb without a fine ever again.

  13. canadianvikingfaniii says: Nov 30, 2010 4:10 PM

    foobarfoofoo says:
    Nov 30, 2010 3:55 PM
    Can anybody explain why he doesn’t get suspended? Does he have to kill somebody on the field?
    ——————–
    Maybe or maybe not, seeing as the Ravens have a murderer on their team.

  14. steelers6pack says: Nov 30, 2010 4:10 PM

    foobarfoofoo says:
    Nov 30, 2010 3:55 PM
    Can anybody explain why he doesn’t get suspended? Does he have to kill somebody on the field?
    ————————————————–
    This is football idiot! There a lot more harder hits going on in other game that no one seems to care about. Harrison needs to rip someone helmet off, beat the crap out of them, get ejected for THAT GAME ONLY, SINCE HE WAS NEVER IN A FIGHT BEFORE, so his suspension is worth it!. Godell is a joke as a commissinor and needs to go….

  15. Deb says: Nov 30, 2010 4:10 PM

    @foobarfoofoo …

    Let me help you spit it out: fool. Obviously, the word you were stammering when you chose your screen name was fool.

    That is perhaps the most idiotic over-the-top post I’ve ever seen on PFT. And considering how many people post here, that’s an amazing feat. Have you even see any of these hits or are you simply responding to the fines? Look at the film. Nothing was wrong with James’s hit on Fitzpatrick. It wasn’t late. He didn’t lead with his helmet. He didn’t make helmet-to-helmet contact.

    The NFL wants to expand to an 18-game season. The players do not. An 18-game season will mean considerably more wear and tear on players’ bodies. The league wants to do this while cutting pay, cutting health benefits, and limiting roster expansion to one person to limit personnel costs.

    Translation: The moneymakers want to make a lot more money on the backs of the players without giving anything in return. The league and several owners have acknowledged this will require “retooling” how the game is played. That means they think players can last longer if they don’t hit as hard. Plus, a less aggressive pass rush will mean higher scoring games, which attracts more casual fans (like yourself) that don’t understand the strategic nature of the game or the purpose of the defense.

    In preparation for ramming this 18-game season down the throats of players over their protests as part of the collective bargaining agreement, Goodell is targeting a high-profile hard-hitting defense and defensive player. If he succeeds in neutering Harrison, he’ll find another to target until he succeeds in neutering THE GAME.

    Try to keep up with the issues rather than knee-jerking.

  16. rushmatic says: Nov 30, 2010 4:10 PM

    johnteedee says:

    There is a real lack of consistency with the NFL. Not only with fines but who gets them and how much. Since Goodell has been in charge, the NFL is going downhill. No new labor contract and inconsistencies with fines, rules, interpretations, etc. It is time to protect the NFL and Goodell needs to go! Someone should start a web site “firegoodell.com”. It would be interesting to see how many hits this would get and if it would get the owners attention.

    ___________________

    Please. I’m no Goodell fan, but to say that the league is worse off because of labor talk is ridiculous. There would still be labor issues with or without him. Take that one off your list. Yes, there is inconsistency with fines, but I disagree with the rest of it.

  17. dman19 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:11 PM

    Lmao…What a joke Goodell has made the NFL…Picture perfect hit on Fitzpatrick…2010–The year the NFL died—RIP

  18. lawboy2000 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:11 PM

    So, let’s see… what should Harrison have done differently?

    If he kept his head up, then his face mask would have hit Fitzpatrick’s face mask and that would have been helmet-to-helmet contact. Okay – that’s out.

    If he dove at Fitzpatrick’s midsection, then he would have been flagged for launching himself head-first at the QB. Okay – that’s out.

    If he dove at Fitzpatrick’s legs, then he would have violated the Tom Brady rule by hitting the QB below the knees. Okay – that’s out.

    So, what’s left?

    I guess Harrison could have just pushed Fitzpatrick really hard with his hands and hoped for him to fall down.

    Sarcasm aside, people, what could Harrison have done differently? Seriously.

  19. pastabelly says: Nov 30, 2010 4:11 PM

    They need to suspend Harrison. As Rodney Harrison said, the fines are the cost of doing business. He came right out on NBC and said that if the league would have suspended him, he would have changed his behavior. The NFL won’t change James Harrison’s behavior unless they suspend him. This is getting old. Goodell needs to show some balls and have him sit for a game. Is he waiting for the next Darryl Stingley before he’s really going to do something?

  20. baddegg says: Nov 30, 2010 4:12 PM

    I can’t understand why this is the same fine as given if you take someone’s helmet off and punch them in the face.

    A helmet to helmet can clearly be inadvertant.

    Ripping off a helmet and punching in the face cannot be an accident, and it is by far more heinous.

    In fact, the NFL’s failure to suspend Johnson, Seymore and others who have thrown actual punches felling their opponents means they really will never be able to suspend someone for a “hard hit.”

    The whole thing is not really being handled evenly…

  21. kellyb9 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:13 PM

    Stop hitting with the top of your helment, and your wallet won’t be losing any of it’s weight. Realistically, he brought this on himself by complaining, now refs are looking to throw flags.

  22. pittsburghsteelerz says: Nov 30, 2010 4:13 PM

    Goodell is a biased stooge!

    That hit was perfectly legal.

  23. igottz5onit says: Nov 30, 2010 4:13 PM

    @chargers have no rings
    Your comment is gibberish.
    This really is getting ridiculous though.

  24. brentfarve says: Nov 30, 2010 4:16 PM

    Dont matter if you are a Steeler fan, Ratbird fan, pathetic charger fan, or whomever this is total CRAP!

    What is happening to the NFL? Granted James has had some questionable hits over the years but this fine would only be given to a few players in the leauge right now that are being made an example of.

    Go Rams-

  25. hobartbaker says: Nov 30, 2010 4:17 PM

    Harrison is lucky the NFL has yet to develop a reliable test for Subhuman Growth Hormone.

  26. profootballwalk says: Nov 30, 2010 4:17 PM

    Every time a player is fined, the HC should be fined as well. That might wake things up a little.

  27. Stiller43 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:18 PM

    Might as well just tear his helmet off and punch him 3 times after the play…

    That’s worth the same amount, right?

    WTF is the NFL doing?

  28. erikinhell says: Nov 30, 2010 4:19 PM

    I wonder how much longer before harrison finds it’s not financially viable for him to play football.

  29. The James Harrison Foundation says: Nov 30, 2010 4:19 PM

    Take off the homer glasses for a second. How is this even a penalty let alone a $25,000 fine? Fitzpatricks arm was still moving forward when Harrison hit him under the shoulder!

  30. ravenshaterssuckdonkeydick says: Nov 30, 2010 4:20 PM

    Harrison has a target on his back, no question. So he’s going to keep getting fines.

    Here’s an idea…..quit drawing personal foul calls.

  31. jackhall00 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:21 PM

    When is Harrison retiring? This is the 4th fine after he said he couldnt play anymore.

  32. joelvis72 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:23 PM

    If he stops the late hits, maybe he won’t get fined as often.

  33. psuotto says: Nov 30, 2010 4:24 PM

    This is a joke. Let me get this straight.

    Andre Johnson and Cortland Finnegan get into a Hockey Fight and only get $25,000.

    Richard Seymore punches Roethlisberger in the face and only gets $25,000.

    Denver tapes a San Francisco walk through and they only get $50,000.

    Goodell and Anderson are a joke!

  34. ilovefoolsball says: Nov 30, 2010 4:24 PM

    johnteedee says: Nov 30, 2010 3:58 PM Since Goodell has been in charge, the NFL is going downhill. No new labor contract and inconsistencies with fines, rules, interpretations, etc. It is time to protect the NFL and Goodell needs to go! Someone should start a web site “firegoodell.com”.

    ——-
    genius! The NFL’s popularity is at an all time high. The league is more popular than all of the major U.S. sports leagues under Goodell’s watch. So let’s fire him!!

    BRILLIANT!

  35. benniecunningham says: Nov 30, 2010 4:25 PM

    OK, I am a Steeler fan so I admit my bias. That said, can anyone explain why the NFL is fining players as much or more for action that takes place during live play between the whistles as they are for plays that occur after the play is over (Seymour/Johnson/Finnegan), especially when the latter were clearly not football related actions but just plain cheap shots?

  36. 58thegreatest says: Nov 30, 2010 4:25 PM

    If you believe that was a fine-able hit, then you are a moron or a Ravens fan, which is the same thing

  37. dolfan34 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:26 PM

    This guy is obviously too stupid of too stubborn to change his ways. So be it….he’ll have to keep paying the piper and maybe it will be get to the point that he’ll get suspended. Which part of ‘don’t lead with your helmet’ does he not get? This guy continues to think he is above the law.

  38. barneyrumble says: Nov 30, 2010 4:27 PM

    125k? Man that is starting to cut into a man’s salary in a serious way.

    I agree with the above posters that call for some consistancy in fines and punishments. How many times does someone get fined before a suspension is mandated? How can someone get fined the same for a tackle that is too hard, as someone that rips off a helment and goes Hockey Game? (I really enjoyed that fight and I too would give it to Johnson on points) There needs to be some consistancy in fines and disipline.

  39. j0esixpack says: Nov 30, 2010 4:27 PM

    Goodell’s message to NFL defensemen:

    Forget about tackling… $25,000 can buy you a Richard Seymour-esque right hook to the face of the opposing QB

    For $50,000 you can get in two cheap shots with a good chance of ending a division rival’s QB season

    Chaotic tackles that might result in more expensive fines just aren’t cost effective and don’t give as much bang for the buck

  40. goodellisajoke says: Nov 30, 2010 4:27 PM

    So..just to be straight on the NFL’s fining logic…the going rate for flat out cheating is 50k………Punching a QB in the face, 25K. Ripping off helmet and flailing away on your opponents face UFC style, 25K. Hmmm…James Harrison playing football..25K…again. Not saying he didn’t deserve a few of these fines, but the logic behind them is…well..there in no logic.

    So please stop with the “Steelers fan’s are cryers” crap and use your head people. Just be careful…you too may get fined.

  41. firegoodell says: Nov 30, 2010 4:29 PM

    This makes absolutely no sense – how does a play between the whistles – that was a borderline call at best – draw the same fine as a f-ing fight? James Harrison has EVERY RIGHT to be pissed about this – the Steelers are getting f*c*ed by the officials lately…..

  42. hairpie says: Nov 30, 2010 4:29 PM

    hmmm, Belichick gets fined 500K for taping from an unsanctioned location and something Goodell admitts had “no impact on games”… McDaniels tapes another teams practice, lies about it and gets a 50K fine? then Harrison hits a qb and gets a fine half as much as the guy that cheated and lied???? i think Goodell has his decimal points in the wrong places.

  43. cynicalvision says: Nov 30, 2010 4:29 PM

    That was a clean hit.

  44. pooponurface says: Nov 30, 2010 4:30 PM

    I’ll agree that Goodell is a crappy commissioner, but at the same time it’s pretty obvious that Harrison just doesn’t get it.

  45. andyprough says: Nov 30, 2010 4:32 PM

    That hit was worth every penny – that was a serious shot, really launched Fitz backward. Like watching Brady get destroyed by the Giants in the Super Bowl, LOL

  46. frank booth says: Nov 30, 2010 4:34 PM

    I hate the Steelers and the same with James Harrison- but this is silly. What’s he going to do, keep his head up when he tackles him? He just blew through the line and nailed him. Great hit, bad call.

    I love those old Buffalo uniforms.

  47. connie75 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:36 PM

    Suspend this thug already!

  48. PFTiswhatitis says: Nov 30, 2010 4:36 PM

    I am not surprised by this fine one bit. Harrison clearly a penalty and given that he is repeat repeat offender of course he was fined again. I am a little surprised he was not suspended though.

    Is it right? That’s a whole other question. But like it or not the rules have changed and everyone has to abide by them even if it makes it impossible to play defense.

  49. checkdownchatter says: Nov 30, 2010 4:37 PM

    I don’t like the way Harrison plays, nor do I like the way he and the Steelers always gripe about fans… but, this is starting to get excessive. He deserves the fine, its just starting to become a significant amount of money.

    I work in the charitable world, and if someone gave us $125k we’d probably establish a named grant for them. Fine money all goes to charity right? I think Goodell should think about setting up the James Harrison fund/foundation… maybe use the proceeds to support neurological charities….

  50. 8dollarbeer says: Nov 30, 2010 4:37 PM

    Steelers fans tears taste so good!! They will cry about this till the Steelers get put out of the playoffs by the Patriots.

  51. steelersmichele says: Nov 30, 2010 4:44 PM

    ravenshaterssuckdonkeydick, did you notice Harrison’s personal foul last week against Oakland’s QB wasn’t fined? It was a perfectly legal hit where Harrison led with his shoulder and it was incorrectly flagged.

    But Goodell didn’t fine him for that hit because it was legal–but it still drew a flag. (BTW, the lack of a fine is an admission by Goodell that it was a legal hit).

    So Harrison is damned if he does hit legally with his shoulder or damned if he doesn’t hit legally, because both will draw a flag. What’s the man to do?

  52. kellyb9 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:45 PM

    @psuotto – “Andre Johnson and Cortland Finnegan get into a Hockey Fight and only get $25,000. ” Good thing they were in football then and not hockey. In hockey this is only a 5 minute penalty.

  53. bosjon says: Nov 30, 2010 4:46 PM

    Harrison makes 6,355,000 this season.

    As Rodney Harrison said, the fines don’t do anything. Suspend this guy and maybe he will learn his lesson.

  54. holeinone09 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:46 PM

    Don’t understand why my posts are at times censored here, but I will try again.

    There should have been no flag on that hit. GODell has the officials afraid and he has Harrison specifically targeted. Then, if the officials do throw a flag, GODell is painted into a corner and he has to levy a fine.

    But it seems players can just rip helmets off and start beating each other in the head and just turn around and slug a QB in the head for no reason after the play is over, and get the same fine as a defensive player hitting a QB below the head in the midst of a legitimate football play. Yeah, all that makes sense.

    Haters cannot just be honest for once, and speak the truth about what GODell is doing to the game we love to watch. I dare you to be men. Go ahead and hate the Steelers and Harrison, but be honest about that play. It was a completely legal hit.

    Now, will this post be censored too? Sheesh!

    GO STEELERS!!

  55. whocares69 says: Nov 30, 2010 4:47 PM

    Poor Poor Roided Up Harrison.. I’m sure he’s going to cry enough for all “yinz” Stooler babies.

  56. 8dollarbeer says: Nov 30, 2010 4:48 PM

    Not you connie you are the exception.

  57. cincyorangenblack says: Nov 30, 2010 4:49 PM

    Steeler fans just dont get it….you can not lead with your helmet as it becomes more or less a weapon. Lead with your shoulder and instead use the thing in your head and play smart, not the thing on your head and play “tough”…..keep crying scumbags, “the league is out to get you” ahahahahahahahaha

  58. flabtreesports says: Nov 30, 2010 4:51 PM

    He needs to learn how to lead with his shoulder:

    When the helmet is buried in the center of the QB’s chest, they’re not always going to notice whether he’s leading with the crown or the facemask. Such is the NFL in 2010. Per Michael Scott’s 2nd rule of business: “Adapt, react, readapt, apt.”

  59. hnicgm says: Nov 30, 2010 4:57 PM

    i played this game at an elite level. harrison’s tackle on fitzpatrick was textbook. head up, squat stance, driving through the tackle. this could be used as a training video for proper tackling technique. the play should not have been flagged. the play should not have resulted in a fine.

    what is the term of nfl commish? how much longer do we have to tolerate goodell?

  60. meyerla says: Nov 30, 2010 5:01 PM

    For that money he could ripped off Fitzpatrick’s helmet and punched him.

  61. The James Harrison Foundation says: Nov 30, 2010 5:02 PM

    cincyorangenblack says:
    Nov 30, 2010 4:49 PM
    Steeler fans just dont get it….

    No, Bengals fans just dont get it… you have to score MORE points than the other team to win

  62. wez99 says: Nov 30, 2010 5:04 PM

    pack it up ladies and gentleman, the NFL is done. we can no longer watch players play their ass off and hit hard, or else they will lose money. i mean seriously, come on goodell, fining a player for hitting the QB cleanly and hard? maybe we should make the QB’s two hand touch… or maybe goodell is trying to convert the NFL into a professional two hand touch league!!!

  63. goodjet says: Nov 30, 2010 5:10 PM

    Hey! This is FOOTBALL —– ummm —–Actually, this used to be football. I don’t know what hell it is now —- But whatever it is —-it Sucks —– Hell, for the first time ever, I didn’t even watch Monday night football last night, crappy game and No Hitting aloud —— So whats the point. I watched something else.

  64. freddieizzyb says: Nov 30, 2010 5:12 PM

    cincyorangenblack says:
    Nov 30, 2010 4:49 PM
    Steeler fans just dont get it….you can not lead with your helmet as it becomes more or less a weapon. Lead with your shoulder and instead use the thing in your head and play smart, not the thing on your head and play “tough”…..keep crying scumbags, “the league is out to get you” ahahahahahahahaha

    ————————————————-
    crying? we win almost every week, BUNGHOLE fans< which is one game away from the title "worst team in the nfl" are crying. I know, "but we swept the division LAST year, we are awseome!!!!!!!"

    Look, sometimes we have to take off the team colors and look at this as a fan of FOOTBALL. James Harrison is playing the same we he does EVERY year, the same way he played while winning defense titles. Did you watch any other games? The cleveland game: browns throw a pass to endzone, Defense makes a big hit and separates ball from receiver. Any other year, this is GREAT DEFENSE. This year, while the rules supposedly did not change, the receiver flops down, pretends he is hurt, and they draw a flag???????? What should the D have done? Let him catch it, pat him )ever so gently on his ass, and say "nice catch"? Watch the plat in slow motion, the ref has his hand on the flag BEFORE James even touched him.

  65. andyprough says: Nov 30, 2010 5:12 PM

    I think Jack Lambert’s bit of philosophy is appropriate at this time:

    “I believe the game is designed to reward the men who hit the hardest. If you can’t take it, you shouldn’t play.”

  66. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 30, 2010 5:15 PM

    j0esixpack says:

    Goodell’s message to NFL defensemen:

    Forget about tackling… $25,000 can buy you a Richard Seymour-esque right hook to the face of the opposing QB

    For $50,000 you can get in two cheap shots with a good chance of ending a division rival’s QB season

    Chaotic tackles that might result in more expensive fines just aren’t cost effective and don’t give as much bang for the buck
    _____________

    That’s exactly right. Which is why, as I’ve said, we can expect more Hockey-esque brawling like this in the near future. I’m a man who loves his hockey, but I’m not really okay with football going that way.

    Plus, these constant fines are really an affront to the very nature of the game. If I’m an NFL owner right now, I’m offering to pay all of my players’ fines for hits that don’t result in any injury. You’d have the #1 defense in the entire league overnight!

  67. highfivefootballfan says: Nov 30, 2010 5:15 PM

    first off, the fines have been inconsistent at best. goodell needs to address the fans, and the players, and explain what logic goes into the fines that are being administered.

    that argument can be made.

    as far as the refs screwing the steelers…come on. the steelers get 99% of all calls. hell, the refs gift-wrapped a WIN for them against the Dolphins earlier this year, didn’t they?

    yeah, they’re getting screwed by the refs…

    wouldn’t be an issue at all if Harisson could learn NOT to lead with his helmet.

  68. ravensrule says: Nov 30, 2010 5:15 PM

    Harrison plays dirty, he leads with his helmet & tries to cause injuries. He’s quite good at it. The memo is out, dont spear people. He has been warned but doesnt seem to care. This has been a great year of football, if you want to see people critically injured, go watch UFC thugs….

  69. uncommon1 says: Nov 30, 2010 5:16 PM

    Harrison knows that these hits are going to lead to a fine. He still plays the same way, and he doesn’t complain about getting fined. It just seems to be the piss-baby steeler fans that have such a problem with this. James is told not to do something or he will be fined. He chooses to do this. Therefore, he knowingly and willingly accepts the fine. It’s pretty simple f*ckt@rds

  70. joetoronto says: Nov 30, 2010 5:17 PM

    Harrison should have been fined way more.

    Seymour got the same fine for a bitch slap to the helmet.

  71. somesome says: Nov 30, 2010 5:17 PM

    LMAO, I was so on it with the prediction that AJ will not get suspended and that Harrison will get fined. He doesn’t get it and anybody screaming and yelling about it doesn’t get it.

    You cannot launch yourself head first into the QB. PERIOD.

    Ngata was nominated defensive AFC player of the week and fined for the hit in the same week. this just how it is. PERIOD.

    You want ot play like that, fine, just stop crying about.

    What I am really suprised about however is the inconsistency. If you fine and say that repeat offenders will be fined more than either the fine has to go up or the player needs to get suspended for repeat offenses. If not than it turns into a complete shamockery and becomes completely abitrary.

    Go Ravens!!!!

  72. bodybaggame says: Nov 30, 2010 5:22 PM

    Harrison should enroll in one of those flexible spending accounts some employers provide with their health insurance coverage, you contribute weekly thru payroll deductions, and use the money to offset health care costs etc If there is any left over, you get a refund.. A flexible fine account, so to speak, of course now that’s he GODells poster child for an 18 game schedule, and the sissification of professional football, he would have to p0ny up about 20g’s a week……

  73. wtf2812 says: Nov 30, 2010 5:23 PM

    Hahahaha … A Cincinnati fan sighting on here. How’s it feel to be an embarrassing loser? You guys would blow the corner cop to have Harrison on your team.

    Keep fining him … he will laugh all the way to the Super Bowl AND All-Pro again!

  74. highfivefootballfan says: Nov 30, 2010 5:25 PM

    didn’t they say repeat offenders would be fined more?

    couldn’t THAT be the reason why Harrison is getting a $25k fine here, when others got the same amount for “worse” offenses?

  75. gamustangdude says: Nov 30, 2010 5:26 PM

    What Harrison should do is carry underneath is pads a check book, and for every sack / tackel-for-loss he makes he needs to celebrate by writing a check and throwing it on the ball carrier. That would be a site to see. and a big middle finger to Goddell.

  76. cincyorangenblack says: Nov 30, 2010 5:27 PM

    The James Harrison Foundation says:
    Nov 30, 2010 5:02 PM
    cincyorangenblack says:
    Nov 30, 2010 4:49 PM
    Steeler fans just dont get it….

    No, Bengals fans just dont get it… you have to score MORE points than the other team to win

    ———————————————–
    wow, you got me there….had no idea. There are thousands of better insults you could have used there….poor form

  77. cincyorangenblack says: Nov 30, 2010 5:32 PM

    freddieizzyb says:
    Nov 30, 2010 5:12 PM

    in reply to your vanilla response….this isn’t “every year” this isn’t last year, or the year he won DPOY. The rules haven’t changed, but the way they enforce them has….what about that can’t you guys seem to understand?

    Furthermore, Roid-Head Harrison shouldn’t have come out and said he doesn’t care and he’s not going to try and change the way he plays….you think thats a smart way to get them to ease up on the fines? How about tackle w/your shoulders and stop leading with your helmet. Harrison is a stud, i’m not saying he isn’t, the part I don’t get is why you people are suprised he’s still getting fined for something that is clearly now a fineable infraction….

  78. igottz5onit says: Nov 30, 2010 5:34 PM

    @cincyorangenblack
    i have heard that steelers’ fans’ tears are delicious and cure cancer, too bad they never cry!

  79. freddieizzyb says: Nov 30, 2010 5:39 PM

    as far as the refs screwing the steelers…come on. the steelers get 99% of all calls. hell, the refs gift-wrapped a WIN for them against the Dolphins earlier this year, didn’t they———————————————————————–

    Why is it when the steeler win (1 bad call is ALWAYS the reason the other team loses. BUT, penalyze the steelers 14 times for 160 yards and we blow the raiders away? GOOD TEAMS FIND WAYS AROUND A BAD CALL. Average teams blame everybody BUT the average players on the field (seahawks)

  80. njhitman says: Nov 30, 2010 5:47 PM

    cincinnasti says:
    Nov 30, 2010 4:03 PM
    For $25,000 he could of knocked Derek Anderson out in the middle of the field. Inconsistent Mr. Goodell… Shouldn’t the fines be going up as he continues to break the rules?

    ————————————–
    What like its going to help your Ben Gals get in to 3th place LMAO hows the bottom feel with all that talk about owning the AFC NORTH just owning last place

  81. jgrange says: Nov 30, 2010 5:54 PM

    You can’t launch yourself head first and make contact head first against any player at any time. When will you morons learn the rules?

  82. worldsgreatest says: Nov 30, 2010 5:56 PM

    Ok, this is getting a little ridiculous.

  83. cincyorangenblack says: Nov 30, 2010 5:58 PM

    igottz5onit says:
    Nov 30, 2010 5:34 PM
    @cincyorangenblack
    i have heard that steelers’ fans’ tears are delicious and cure cancer, too bad they never cry!

    ————————————————-
    sweet response again…man you guys are killin me today. Honestly, can atleast 1 Steeler fan come up with something creative against my squad to Bash me with….anyone….it’s not difficult guys

  84. mrbigass says: Nov 30, 2010 6:05 PM

    This fining business is out of control and I am sick of hearing about it. Next they’ll be fining the fans for booing…….

  85. brentfarve says: Nov 30, 2010 6:11 PM

    ravensrule says:
    Nov 30, 2010 5:15 PM
    Harrison plays dirty, he leads with his helmet & tries to cause injuries. He’s quite good at it. The memo is out, dont spear people. He has been warned but doesnt seem to care. This has been a great year of football, if you want to see people critically injured, go watch UFC thugs….

    ————————————————
    and if you really want to get crazy and want to watch people get murdered hang out with Ray Lewis.

  86. damnskins703 says: Nov 30, 2010 6:17 PM

    I personay think the hit was legal, oh yea it was a qb you can’t touch them no more.. F goodell

  87. steelintn says: Nov 30, 2010 6:17 PM

    connie75 says:
    Nov 30, 2010 4:36 PM
    Suspend this thug already!

    ————————————————

    I see “connie” the fake STEELERS fan has made “her” appearance. Dude, give it up already. Your act is OLD…

  88. ihateannouncers says: Nov 30, 2010 6:22 PM

    At the risk of sounding ignorant….does Goodell actually decide the fine amount solely, or does Art Shell and Ted Cottrell have any input?? And for Steeler fans….If you want to get back at Goodell, vote Harrison to the probowl again. I am sure he will be happy to have his most fined / penalized player there.

  89. steelintn says: Nov 30, 2010 6:23 PM

    @cincinastyorangenblack:

    How about Roger Go-to-hell start fining the cincinasty bungles $100,000 per game for impersonating a real NFL team? The would teach them…

    How’s that whole winning the divisions thing going for you??

  90. florio4prez says: Nov 30, 2010 6:37 PM

    The NFL confirmed the fine in an email to the Post-Gazette this afternoon:

    “James Harrison was fined $25,000 for roughing the passer, specifically he made helmet contact to the chest of the Buffalo quarterback, who was in a defenseless position at the time the contact was made.”

    Say what?

    “…helmet contact to the chest…”

    Well, finally, the Commish got something right about one of James’ hit. That is exactly what happened.

    I guess then the question are

    (1) When in the mother of f*#k did helmet to shoulder pads become illegal? And is it ONLY illegal for James?

    (2) So now a QB is in a defenseless position the split second after he throws a pass?

    This is going to get ugly. sorry commish, you’ve already made it that.

  91. qball59 says: Nov 30, 2010 6:38 PM

    Since it is practically impossible to tackle someone properly without leading with your facemask, it appears that Harrison simply needs to put his head somewhere else on his body. Hmmm, where could he put his head to keep it safely out of the way when tackling….

    I KNOW! Harrison just needs to start playing with his HEAD UP HIS A**! And who better to teach him than Roger GODell and Ray Anderson?

    PROBLEM SOLVED! Am I a genius or what? :-)

  92. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: Nov 30, 2010 6:39 PM

    Harrison will adapt by bringing a check for $25k or $50k everytime he takes the field.

    Sorry Commish, you have to suspend him to get the results you want.

  93. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: Nov 30, 2010 6:43 PM

    @brentfrarve, #4 was too busy taking pictures of his shortcomings to see that Ray hasn’t killed anyone.

    “and if you really want to get crazy and want to watch people get murdered hang out with Ray Lewis.”

  94. igottz5onit says: Nov 30, 2010 6:43 PM

    @cincy
    why would i want to bash your squad? That would be like shooting a caged deer. No one wants to waste their time talking smack about a 2-9 team, we leave that to TO.

  95. gopurplebirds says: Nov 30, 2010 6:44 PM

    James Harrison is a head hunter who is going paralyze someone before its all said and done. At least Ray Lewis puts his shoulder through others’ chests (or shoulder as with Mendenhall). Harrison makes Ike Turner look like Ned Flanders.

  96. BanGODdell says: Nov 30, 2010 7:08 PM

    Glad to see so many non-Steeler fans stating their dispeasure for GODdell. It is really past time for him to go. I would Love to see all the fans in NY at the Draft boo him this or next year. long Live the NFL!

  97. connie73 says: Nov 30, 2010 7:08 PM

    Connie75 Why do you read what I have to say.
    You can’t wait to read me.
    I can tell you any thing you want to know about the Steelers. Where you from?? Do you listen to talk radio in Pgh???Try it sometimes then you will find out about what people think about Ben
    the raper.
    What makes you think I’m a her Do you know Connie is a mans name also You should know that being that is your name

  98. oregonbear says: Nov 30, 2010 7:11 PM

    Is Goodell the Commissioner of the NFL or the Sheriff? The league already has penalties in place for dealing with unnecessary roughness on the field and if those aren’t working then come up with a better system. You can’t just sit down on Tuesday morning and arbitrarily hand out fines based on film. I like the FIFA yellow/red card system and it could easily be integrated into the NFL.

  99. iamthefootballjerk says: Nov 30, 2010 7:20 PM

    The typical response by most, not all, Steeler fans on these boards: “Waaaah, Waaaah, Goodell’s out to get us. Waaaah, Waaaah, all Harrison hits are clean. Waaaah, Waaaah, we cry and complain the least at out of all fans. Waaah, Waaah, I am not from Pittsburgh, but became a fan after they started winning in the 70s.”

  100. cup1981 says: Nov 30, 2010 7:21 PM

    Ok, form now on LBs have to hold a pillow and when they get close to the QB they flail away at him with a pillow. Be careful not to hit his head though, or you will be fine $100K.

    Could you imagine guys like Singletary, LT, Hamm, Lambert or Ronnie Lott trying to play nowadays. They would be fined every week for their hits lol.

  101. radrntn says: Nov 30, 2010 7:28 PM

    what a joke. I wonder if the every day Joe got a drunk driving ticket, and vehicular manslaughter charges and was issued a citation for a dime, how many more times would he drive drunk trying to kill people….NFL get real!

  102. 24secure says: Nov 30, 2010 7:56 PM

    The one thing I’ll remember about Harrison is him whining after they won the Super Bowl because Obama only invited him to the White House because the Steelers won. So dumb.

  103. goldsteel says: Nov 30, 2010 8:12 PM

    foobarfoofoo says:
    Nov 30, 2010 3:55 PM
    Can anybody explain why he doesn’t get suspended? Does he have to kill somebody on the field?

    There was no foul. The referee who happened to have his hand on the flag before Harrison hit the quarterback. The National Fine League is wrong. And so are you, genius. The National Fine League did clear one thing up. James Harrison should just beat the living crap out of Joe Flacco, Sunday night, instead of worrying about his helmet. The fines are the same.

    Not to worry, it won’t happen. James is not a dirty player.

    “If I was a little bit blinder and a little bit dumber, I could be an NFL official.”
    Bum Phillips

  104. steelintn says: Nov 30, 2010 8:28 PM

    connie73 says:
    Nov 30, 2010 7:08 PM
    Connie75 Why do you read what I have to say.
    You can’t wait to read me.
    I can tell you any thing you want to know about the Steelers. Where you from?? Do you listen to talk radio in Pgh???Try it sometimes then you will find out about what people think about Ben
    the raper.
    What makes you think I’m a her Do you know Connie is a mans name also You should know that being that is your name

    ———————————————–

    What the hell is this? Are you talking to yourself? Maybe you should cut back a little on the crazy meds, Mr. Connie!!

  105. tobiasjodter says: Nov 30, 2010 8:54 PM

    freddieizzyb says: Nov 30, 2010 5:12 PM

    Watch the play in slow motion, the ref has his hand on the flag BEFORE James even touched him.
    ————————————————-

    You are definitely onto something here. I did watch the play again several times just now – the referee does clearly start reaching for his flag BEFORE contact with the QB was made. That is significant in my opinion. It confirms that they are targeting Harrison – that flag was going to come out no matter where and how Harrison hit him.

    This is total BS…

  106. worsethingss says: Nov 30, 2010 9:38 PM

    steelintn says: Nov 30, 2010 8:28 PM

    connie73 says:
    Nov 30, 2010 7:08 PM
    Connie75 Why do you read what I have to say.
    You can’t wait to read me.
    I can tell you any thing you want to know about the Steelers. Where you from?? Do you listen to talk radio in Pgh???Try it sometimes then you will find out about what people think about Ben
    the raper.
    What makes you think I’m a her Do you know Connie is a mans name also You should know that being that is your name

    ———————————————–

    What the hell is this? Are you talking to yourself? Maybe you should cut back a little on the crazy meds, Mr. Connie!
    ____________________________________
    One is Connie73, and the other is Connie75. Two different people I would assume. Maybe you should be the one cutting back on the meds.

  107. Deb says: Nov 30, 2010 11:28 PM

    @24secure …

    You completely misstated that event. Enjoy your job at Distortions R Us?

    @jgrange …

    We know the rule, jackass. We’re wondering when the commissioner plans to learn it. James didn’t launch himself helmet first at Brees or Fitzpatrick. For those of you who don’t appreciate tackle football, there’s always table tennis.

    @worsethingss …

    You know what they say about assuming. Apparently you haven’t had a lot of interaction with the connies. Whether they’re one nut or two nuts, we’re allergic either way.

    oh connies … three rivers converge in Pittsburgh. Why don’t you and the voices in your head(s) go for a long … long swim?

    @iamthefootballjerk …

    You’re clueless about football … but at least you’re self-aware.

  108. 6isgr8lamehaters says: Nov 30, 2010 11:32 PM

    @ all of the non-Steeler fans making legitimate, intelligent posts:

    THANK YOU!

    @ all of you ignorant Ravens, Bungels and other fans who think the latest fine on Harrison is legitimate:

    WTF are you watching on Sundays? Clearly you didn’t see the hit. Even if you did, you have blinders on because you all have SERIOUS Steeler ENVY.

    All of you need to STFU and review the rules of the game and the plays on the field. God-dell is a JACK-ASS and if you have any cerebral activity, you’d EFFIN know it.

    God-dell and his cronies need to go to Europe and start a WFFL (world flag football league). He is systematically ruining the NFL. Hard hitting is legal and should be part of the game. Helmet to helmet (intentional) should be fined and players suspended for repeat offenses. James Harrison didn’t levy a helmet to helmet hit on Skirtpatrick nor do anything illegal.

  109. Beer Cheese Soup says: Dec 1, 2010 1:04 AM

    iamthefootballjerk says:

    The typical response by most, not all, Steeler fans on these boards: “Waaaah, Waaaah, Goodell’s out to get us. Waaaah, Waaaah, all Harrison hits are clean. Waaaah, Waaaah, we cry and complain the least at out of all fans. Waaah, Waaah, I am not from Pittsburgh, but became a fan after they started winning in the 70s.”
    ____________

    You summed it up perfectly. How fans of the only team yet to be outright given a Super Bowl win have the nerve to complain about anything the league does is outright nonsensical.

  110. steelintn says: Dec 1, 2010 5:57 AM

    worsethingss says:
    Nov 30, 2010 9:38 PM

    One is Connie73, and the other is Connie75. Two different people I would assume. Maybe you should be the one cutting back on the meds.

    ————————————————

    Two dumbasses with similar names.

    By the way, no meds for me! Maybe you should…
    Nah, I won’t go there.

  111. steelerdynasty2010 says: Dec 1, 2010 8:34 AM

    this is just so ridiculous. call it whining if you want, but you all know this stuff is crap. (btw, you pretty much validate a point when your best response is “quit whining” instead of a more intelligent one that sheds light on your point of view and why it differs) fine him for the hit on the Clowns receiver, and even for VY, but the rest of them have been nonsense and you haters know it. he’s not dirty, he’s aggressive. does aggressive sometimes go too far on the football field? ABSOLUTELY. that’s what the refs should be throwing personal foul calls for, not for “falling down with all of his weight” or barely grazing a qbs head as you try to knock down a pass, or any of the other silly fouls they try to call to “protect” the qb.
    if you cannot understand that, then we’d all like to thank you for revealing yourselves as people who obviously have no real understanding of the game and have never been a part of it other than as a casual fan.
    its unfortunate to know that some of you are so hellbent on your hatred of a football team that you cannot seem to engage in an intelligent discussion of the facts.
    Deb:
    you are right on the money! too bad so many fans (or at least the ones that post here) are too wrapped up in their team allegiances to stand up together as FOOTBALL FANS and really fight for the product that we have fallen in love with. They’d rather make this about one team (the steelers) like we’re the only ones who are getting fines that we feel are undeserved and absurd. It certainly is lonely at the top!

  112. ravensos says: Dec 1, 2010 8:50 AM

    Ravens fan here. I hate to say it but I’m going to have to agree with some of the Steelers fans here. The fining is completely inconsistent and Harrison is being targeted.

    Now, Harrison has a reputation for being a dirty player and there’s a reason. But if Goodell truly wants to make a difference, don’t fine for ticky tack calls. Wait until he does something clearly diry and suspend him.

    The fines make no sense, especially when you compare them to the AJ-Finnegan (IMO worst offense i’ve seen this year).

    Also, the Ravens/Steelers rivalry is the best rivalry the NFL has right now. It’s because the 2 teams are known for being physical, and they even market it that way. So don’t shake your finger at Harrison and then capitalize off the physical style of play (which the fans prefer). Suspending him when he’s clearly dirty is the best way to go, but these fines and flags are absurd and ruining the game.

  113. johntonioholmes says: Dec 1, 2010 9:07 AM

    #
    Beer Cheese Soup says: Dec 1, 2010 1:04 AM

    You summed it up perfectly. How fans of the only team yet to be outright given a Super Bowl win have the nerve to complain about anything the league does is outright nonsensical.

    ____________

    Two things:

    1: Even if you take away the Ben TD in XL the score is still 14-10.

    2. The Patriots actually cheated–literally broke the rules to barely win all three of their superbowls you dumb bad of $h!t.

    I suggest you watch the defensing holding against the Panthers before you comment about bad officiating, as if it has only ever benefited 1 team.

    Side note: The officials have actually apologized for badly called games against the Steelers. It’s been done at least 5 times since 2002. They get effed more than they get the good calls.

  114. steelerdynasty2010 says: Dec 1, 2010 9:08 AM

    @beer cheese:
    i really wish you’d give it up dude. STOP WHINING ABOUT THAT DAMN GAME, ITS OVER!!!!!!!! was it a conspiracy when Jerame Stevens dropped that TD? PLEASE tell me how that had anything to do with the refs. must’ve been a jedi mind trick. and you tell me that you wouldnt be CRYING for a flag on Hines Ward if he had done the same thing as D. Jackson in the endzone? i think anyone who’s read a post of yours regarding the steelers knows the answer to that question. If you cant see he CLEARLY created separation (you dont have to necessarily knock the defender to the ground to be a push off) by extending his arm, then you obviously DO NOT KNOW FOOTBALL and your comments here will never again be taken seriously as anything more than envy. how bout holmgren’s rookie time management strategy? and i guess you also want us to believe that the steelers are the only team in the nfl who hold? not that it happens on EVERY PLAY IN EVERY GAME or anything…CRY INTO YOUR KLEENEX, not your keyboard, and stop posting your conspiracy theory nonsense, it really reveals you as the WHINER that we truly know you are

  115. wilddeuce03 says: Dec 1, 2010 10:32 AM

    FWIW, I’m a life long Browns fan and this is getting rediculous! That hit on Fitzpatrick was text book! Head right in the chest. Hit him as soon as the ball was out. I hate agreeing with Steeler fans but Harrison is totally being targeted by the league.

  116. cjspiller12 says: Dec 1, 2010 12:26 PM

    Bills fan here……….the hit on Fitzpatrick was text book. Bad call by the refs. Go Bills!! No doubt Harrison is being targeted. I would take him on my team in a New York minute!!!

  117. tellmeaboutitbaby says: Dec 1, 2010 1:29 PM

    For all you “experts” on the rules that caim it was an illegal hit, and deserved to be flagged & fined.

    This morning on Mike&Mike this was discussed – Mike Gloic asked Adam Schefter if this was some other linebacker would this have been flagged ro fined. His response – “absolutely not”

    Schefter even commented to Mike that he had probably hit QBs like that dozens of times in his playing career without ever getting flagged or fined & of course Mike agreed.

    But I am sure you all know so much more than those guys – just ask you – you’re an expert!

    morons!

  118. Deb says: Dec 1, 2010 2:50 PM

    Many thanks to the Ravens, Bills, Browns, and other fans who posted support. The game belongs to all of us and when the commissioner tires of targeting James, he’ll start hitting on other tough players. This is a sad time for football fans.

    Beer Cheese …

    You’re welcome to your sad obsession. But if you can’t pull your head out of your backside long enough to look at the serious issues facing the sport we love, why don’t you just sit in your room and babble to yourself about your six-year-old conspiracy theories rather than wasting our time? Sane grownups are trying to talk here.

  119. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: Dec 1, 2010 3:25 PM

    tellmeaboutitbaby says:
    Dec 1, 2010 1:29 PM
    For all you “experts” on the rules that caim it was an illegal hit, and deserved to be flagged & fined.

    ~~~~

    Completely miss the point, do you?

    The only “experts” that count are the ones that levy the fine and the two that hear the appeals. PERIOD!

    Harrison can learn to hit with his shoulder of keep doing the same thing that earns him a fine.

  120. jpmelon says: Dec 1, 2010 3:35 PM

    Intentional or not….he hit fitz in the chin. Keep whining though. Everyone else really cares about how dissatisfied you are.

    @ deb…
    MAYBE, the league is trying to enforce the existing helmet to helmet rules in anticipation of an 18 game season, but the fact that you beleive the league wants to increase scoring by hurting defenses completely discredits anything you say. The helmet to helmet rules apply to offensive players as well.

  121. 6isgr8lamehaters says: Dec 1, 2010 3:49 PM

    Refreshing to see that some folks actually get it. As a fan of the NFL, I am appalled at what God-dell is trying to do to this great game. When impartial experts debate the situation, they all come to the same conclusion. The hit was legitimate and Harrison is clearly being targeted. For those with cerebral activity, it’s easy to understand why God-dell would target a specific player who plays the game aggressively. It’s the simpliest, easiest way for him and his skirt loving cronies to get their message across to the entire league.

    IMO a low scoring defensive battle that ends 17-13 or 20-17 is a helluva lot more fun to watch than a 56-48 shoot out. The 56-48 shoot out reminds me of the NBA and how they’ve changed that game over the past few decades.

    Anyone ever wonder why the NBA is lagging so far behind the NFL, MLB, NHL and other sports in popularity at the professional level? It’s because they placed a higher value on points scored than defense played. It’s a boring ass game with a diminishing true fan base that will continue to suffe, particularly in these economic times. The only time of the year that is remotely interesting for the NBA occurs when the conference and overall finals are played. That even requires some great players and rivalries to spark fan interest. The NFL is on its way to becoming a high scoring, non-defensive game that will slowly but surely lose fans as the NBA has.

    Someone needs to step up and organize a God-ell must GO campaign to preserve what has made the NFL so great for so many decades. The shift in rules completely devalues defense and inappropriately swings the pendulum to offensive shootouts. Now, shouldn’t we all just watch arena football if that’s what we want? A shorter field with lots of points. Should be called LAME-O football. Wonder why it hasn’t caught on in popularity here in the US?

  122. johntonioholmes says: Dec 1, 2010 4:35 PM

    @jpmelon

    Helmet to helmet does not apply to offensive players. In fact, it only applies to “defenseless” players, like a receiver making a catch or a qb about to throw.

    That’s bs to me. Make it across the board!

    Secondly, Steelers fans are only mad because 70%-80% of the league plays exactly like Harrison but he’s the only one getting fined.

    I don’t believe they want to increase scoring, I just think they are making a PR move and taking it out on one player.

    They don’t care for a second about player safety, otherwise there would be 20+ fines a week. That’s unacceptable to the league so they just fine Harrison.

  123. Deb says: Dec 1, 2010 10:37 PM

    @jpmelon …

    Really? Please give me a list of the offensive players who’ve been flagged and fined LOL

    As jontonioholmes said, the helmet-to-helmet rule applies to players in a “defenseless position”–such as QBs after the ball has left their hands and receivers going up to make a catch. But the helmet-to-helmet issue is irrelevant in my discussion because James didn’t make helmet-to-helmet hits on Brees or Fitzpatrick. He was fined for old-fashioned, legal hits as part of the pass rush. The hit on Brees may have been a step late–thus the flag. But it was legal. I don’t have a complaint with the fine on Harrison for the hit on Massaquoi; I expect Steelers to make legal hits. But most of Harrison’s hits are legal.

    The issue of whether the league is trying to encourage a high-scoring game is controversial. I didn’t originally believe that myself. Now I’ll believe almost anything about Goodell. But there’s no question he’s trying to soften defensive play. That’s what this is all about.

  124. Beer Cheese Soup says: Dec 7, 2010 1:06 PM

    Deb says:

    Beer Cheese …

    You’re welcome to your sad obsession. But if you can’t pull your head out of your backside long enough to look at the serious issues facing the sport we love, why don’t you just sit in your room and babble to yourself about your six-year-old conspiracy theories rather than wasting our time? Sane grownups are trying to talk here.
    _____________

    “My” sad obsession.. Hilarious.

    Your Steeler-bias is truly legendary on these boards. For that reason, I know I will never be able to convince you of any wrongdoing related to XL, or any wrongdoing or criminal activity by any Steelers player in history, and I have quite trying.

    It’s a good thing Rae Carruth wasn’t a Steeler, or else we’d have to listen to your feeble attempts to defend him, or claim his victim somehow deserved that as well.

    I do, however, feel compelled to say that it’s no longer considered a conspiracy theory once the people involved admit the truth. Now, your “Goodell is trying to soften the game to force an 18 game season” rant… THAT is a conspiracy theory.

    See the difference?

  125. beercheeseisaknownothing says: Dec 12, 2010 5:26 PM

    Right…..

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