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		<title>By: atldiva828</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 01:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hahaha poor randy moss.. instead of his &quot;loyal&quot; team having a 6-1 record.. he now has the complete opposite.. 1-6. Good stuff!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha poor randy moss.. instead of his &#8220;loyal&#8221; team having a 6-1 record.. he now has the complete opposite.. 1-6. Good stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: deweyaxewound</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 22:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ontboltfan says: 
Nov 30, 2010 4:27 PM 
gallopingghost says:
Nov 30, 2010 2:30 PM
Bears took down one of the most explosive offense in the NFL. The Panthers game was october 10th, not sure why that came up. Before Miami, they took down Favre + AP, and before that stopped a high octane Buffalo offense (I don’t care what anyone says about that team, they are good at moving the ball downfield.). 

Oh yea, and they’d have less trouble stoppin the Chargers. And their D is twice as good.
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The panthers game came up because 1/2 CHI’s wins are against inept teams. MIN was wout their 2 starting WRs so that is another unearned win. Buffalo with the worst run D in the league is another 1/2 win. Same for the win against the DAL, another sub .500 team bumbling under Wade Phillips.

CHI has the worst OL in the league so vs SD (the top pass rush) you could expect a stomping similar to what you got against the only real team you faced the NYG.
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An &quot;unearned&quot; win? I didn&#039;t realize there was such a thing in the NFL. Is that a Canadian concept? 

Let&#039;s apply your own &quot;logic&quot; to the Chargers, and their impressive hit list--who have THEY beat?
 
Powerhouses like the 
3-8 Cards, 
5-6 Titans, 
5-6 Texans, 
3-8 Broncos, 
and 6-5 Jags and Colts (the only two teams above .500, and only one game above it)... 

What&#039;s worse--look at all 5 of their losses: 
5-6 Seattle, 
5-6 Oakland, 
5-6 STL ... 
3 LOSING teams, and only 2 losses to teams with winning records: 
7-4 KC and 9-2 NE...

Chargers aren&#039;t even the best team in their own division right now!! (and you wanna call out the BEARS?!?)

The Bears also lost all 4 of their pre-season games, and looked terrible THEN--shall we go back that far, too? 

Fact is, the Bears team you see now is not the same as the team that played in October. 
And did you forget it was Todd freakin&#039; Collins that QB&#039;d for the Bears against Carolina? 

Chicago&#039;s o-line didn&#039;t even consist of all the same players until--you guessed it--THE PAST THREE GAMES. Their o-line of the past 3 weeks is lightyears ahead of of what they fielded previously, and the stats bear that out. 

And by your &quot;logic&quot;--the Steelers needed OT and a dropped pass to get past the Bills, is that an &quot;unearned win&quot;, too? 
Does that make the Bears a better team, since they beat the Bills in regulation? 

The Bears also beat Philly and Dallas, who both beat the Giants...who you call a &quot;the only real team&quot; they faced. 
Of the 5 teams that beat they Chargers, how many of those were &quot;real&quot;? How about Seattle, who beat BOTH our teams? Are they &quot;real&quot;? 
Were those wins for Seattle earned, or unearned? 

Or, as I would contend--does it just not matter? 

Is it more intelligent to say teams just have to play who&#039;s put in front of them, and 9 times out of 10, record is meaningless, and any team can give any other team a beating on any given Sunday in the NFL ?
And that no matter what, comparative analysis like yours (team A beat team B, team B beat team C, therefore team A beats team C every time...or some variation of that) just does not work in the NFL. 

In short, your little daydream--that S.D. would crush the Bears, is nothing but a fiction in your own head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ontboltfan says:<br />
Nov 30, 2010 4:27 PM<br />
gallopingghost says:<br />
Nov 30, 2010 2:30 PM<br />
Bears took down one of the most explosive offense in the NFL. The Panthers game was october 10th, not sure why that came up. Before Miami, they took down Favre + AP, and before that stopped a high octane Buffalo offense (I don’t care what anyone says about that team, they are good at moving the ball downfield.). </p>
<p>Oh yea, and they’d have less trouble stoppin the Chargers. And their D is twice as good.<br />
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The panthers game came up because 1/2 CHI’s wins are against inept teams. MIN was wout their 2 starting WRs so that is another unearned win. Buffalo with the worst run D in the league is another 1/2 win. Same for the win against the DAL, another sub .500 team bumbling under Wade Phillips.</p>
<p>CHI has the worst OL in the league so vs SD (the top pass rush) you could expect a stomping similar to what you got against the only real team you faced the NYG.<br />
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<p>An &#8220;unearned&#8221; win? I didn&#8217;t realize there was such a thing in the NFL. Is that a Canadian concept? </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s apply your own &#8220;logic&#8221; to the Chargers, and their impressive hit list&#8211;who have THEY beat?</p>
<p>Powerhouses like the<br />
3-8 Cards,<br />
5-6 Titans,<br />
5-6 Texans,<br />
3-8 Broncos,<br />
and 6-5 Jags and Colts (the only two teams above .500, and only one game above it)&#8230; </p>
<p>What&#8217;s worse&#8211;look at all 5 of their losses:<br />
5-6 Seattle,<br />
5-6 Oakland,<br />
5-6 STL &#8230;<br />
3 LOSING teams, and only 2 losses to teams with winning records:<br />
7-4 KC and 9-2 NE&#8230;</p>
<p>Chargers aren&#8217;t even the best team in their own division right now!! (and you wanna call out the BEARS?!?)</p>
<p>The Bears also lost all 4 of their pre-season games, and looked terrible THEN&#8211;shall we go back that far, too? </p>
<p>Fact is, the Bears team you see now is not the same as the team that played in October.<br />
And did you forget it was Todd freakin&#8217; Collins that QB&#8217;d for the Bears against Carolina? </p>
<p>Chicago&#8217;s o-line didn&#8217;t even consist of all the same players until&#8211;you guessed it&#8211;THE PAST THREE GAMES. Their o-line of the past 3 weeks is lightyears ahead of of what they fielded previously, and the stats bear that out. </p>
<p>And by your &#8220;logic&#8221;&#8211;the Steelers needed OT and a dropped pass to get past the Bills, is that an &#8220;unearned win&#8221;, too?<br />
Does that make the Bears a better team, since they beat the Bills in regulation? </p>
<p>The Bears also beat Philly and Dallas, who both beat the Giants&#8230;who you call a &#8220;the only real team&#8221; they faced.<br />
Of the 5 teams that beat they Chargers, how many of those were &#8220;real&#8221;? How about Seattle, who beat BOTH our teams? Are they &#8220;real&#8221;?<br />
Were those wins for Seattle earned, or unearned? </p>
<p>Or, as I would contend&#8211;does it just not matter? </p>
<p>Is it more intelligent to say teams just have to play who&#8217;s put in front of them, and 9 times out of 10, record is meaningless, and any team can give any other team a beating on any given Sunday in the NFL ?<br />
And that no matter what, comparative analysis like yours (team A beat team B, team B beat team C, therefore team A beats team C every time&#8230;or some variation of that) just does not work in the NFL. </p>
<p>In short, your little daydream&#8211;that S.D. would crush the Bears, is nothing but a fiction in your own head.</p>
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		<title>By: touchdownroddywhite</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 20:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Falcons have beaten better teams than the Bucs, on top of beating the Bucs, and specifically have also beat or been competitive with every team TB has lost to.  There shouldn&#039;t even be discussion of the Bucs being better than the Falcons, but all that discussion will come to an end Sunday when the Falcons travel to Florida to complete the sweep.

Bucs fans can relish in the fact that their team is sitting at home eating chilli cheese dip during the playoffs, just like they are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Falcons have beaten better teams than the Bucs, on top of beating the Bucs, and specifically have also beat or been competitive with every team TB has lost to.  There shouldn&#8217;t even be discussion of the Bucs being better than the Falcons, but all that discussion will come to an end Sunday when the Falcons travel to Florida to complete the sweep.</p>
<p>Bucs fans can relish in the fact that their team is sitting at home eating chilli cheese dip during the playoffs, just like they are.</p>
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		<title>By: sdw2001</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The chiefs above the Eagles.  Riiight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chiefs above the Eagles.  Riiight.</p>
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		<title>By: flyertime</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 02:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#
gamustangdude says: Nov 30, 2010 5:18 PM

Ok Eagles Fans here’s reality

You lost to GB, Washington, Chicago, and Tennessee. Washington lost to the “Yikes” Chicago, to the Seahawks, and GB lost to Miami.

I have no idea what all this means. However this serves as a baseline format for you arguing the Falcons power rankings.

Bottom line, we are the best team in the NFC.

GO FALCONS!!!!

ONE THING TO SAY MY SOUTHERN CHICKEN EATING NO COUNT IDIOT.
WE HAVE KICKED YOUR ASS ONCE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO BEATING YOUR NO GOOD ASS ONE MORE TIME THIS YEAR!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<br />
gamustangdude says: Nov 30, 2010 5:18 PM</p>
<p>Ok Eagles Fans here’s reality</p>
<p>You lost to GB, Washington, Chicago, and Tennessee. Washington lost to the “Yikes” Chicago, to the Seahawks, and GB lost to Miami.</p>
<p>I have no idea what all this means. However this serves as a baseline format for you arguing the Falcons power rankings.</p>
<p>Bottom line, we are the best team in the NFC.</p>
<p>GO FALCONS!!!!</p>
<p>ONE THING TO SAY MY SOUTHERN CHICKEN EATING NO COUNT IDIOT.<br />
WE HAVE KICKED YOUR ASS ONCE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO BEATING YOUR NO GOOD ASS ONE MORE TIME THIS YEAR!!!</p>
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		<title>By: timtanium</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 00:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and no, Florio, your not an exception.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and no, Florio, your not an exception.</p>
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		<title>By: timtanium</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 00:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your all morons. with maybe an exception or two.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your all morons. with maybe an exception or two.</p>
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		<title>By: palinforpresidentofnorthkorea</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fail!

Cards are #33 or #38 if not lower than North Jersey Tech.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fail!</p>
<p>Cards are #33 or #38 if not lower than North Jersey Tech.</p>
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		<title>By: gamustangdude</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok Eagles Fans here&#039;s reality

You lost to GB, Washington, Chicago, and Tennessee.  Washington lost to the &quot;Yikes&quot; Chicago, to the Seahawks, and GB lost to Miami. 

I have no idea what all this means.  However this serves as a baseline format for you arguing the Falcons power rankings.  

Bottom line, we are the best team in the NFC.  

GO FALCONS!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Eagles Fans here&#8217;s reality</p>
<p>You lost to GB, Washington, Chicago, and Tennessee.  Washington lost to the &#8220;Yikes&#8221; Chicago, to the Seahawks, and GB lost to Miami. </p>
<p>I have no idea what all this means.  However this serves as a baseline format for you arguing the Falcons power rankings.  </p>
<p>Bottom line, we are the best team in the NFC.  </p>
<p>GO FALCONS!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ontboltfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kellyb9 says: 
Nov 30, 2010 3:51 PM 
@ontboltsfan: New England is ranked over Pittsburgh and Baltimore because they beat both those teams, and they have a better record. Sure their defense is young, but they looked pretty good against those teams.
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NE beat PIT but recall top WR Hines Ward, 3/5 the OL, 2/3 the DL were injured. They did beat BAL at home as BAL could do same. These ratings are tied to the record only. Both BAL and PIT have top O&#039;s and D&#039;s while NE has a top O but the D gives up 400 yds/g.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kellyb9 says:<br />
Nov 30, 2010 3:51 PM<br />
@ontboltsfan: New England is ranked over Pittsburgh and Baltimore because they beat both those teams, and they have a better record. Sure their defense is young, but they looked pretty good against those teams.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
NE beat PIT but recall top WR Hines Ward, 3/5 the OL, 2/3 the DL were injured. They did beat BAL at home as BAL could do same. These ratings are tied to the record only. Both BAL and PIT have top O&#8217;s and D&#8217;s while NE has a top O but the D gives up 400 yds/g.</p>
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		<title>By: ontboltfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gallopingghost says: 
Nov 30, 2010 2:30 PM 
Bears took down one of the most explosive offense in the NFL. The Panthers game was october 10th, not sure why that came up. Before Miami, they took down Favre + AP, and before that stopped a high octane Buffalo offense (I don’t care what anyone says about that team, they are good at moving the ball downfield.). 

Oh yea, and they’d have less trouble stoppin the Chargers. And their D is twice as good.
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The panthers game came up because 1/2 CHI&#039;s wins are against inept teams. MIN was wout their 2 starting WRs so that is another unearned win. Buffalo with the worst run D in the league is another 1/2 win. Same for the win against the DAL, another sub .500 team bumbling under Wade Phillips.

CHI has the worst OL in the league so vs SD (the top pass rush) you could expect a stomping similar to what you got against the only real team you faced the NYG.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gallopingghost says:<br />
Nov 30, 2010 2:30 PM<br />
Bears took down one of the most explosive offense in the NFL. The Panthers game was october 10th, not sure why that came up. Before Miami, they took down Favre + AP, and before that stopped a high octane Buffalo offense (I don’t care what anyone says about that team, they are good at moving the ball downfield.). </p>
<p>Oh yea, and they’d have less trouble stoppin the Chargers. And their D is twice as good.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
The panthers game came up because 1/2 CHI&#8217;s wins are against inept teams. MIN was wout their 2 starting WRs so that is another unearned win. Buffalo with the worst run D in the league is another 1/2 win. Same for the win against the DAL, another sub .500 team bumbling under Wade Phillips.</p>
<p>CHI has the worst OL in the league so vs SD (the top pass rush) you could expect a stomping similar to what you got against the only real team you faced the NYG.</p>
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		<title>By: kellyb9</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ontboltsfan: New England is ranked over Pittsburgh and Baltimore because they beat both those teams, and they have a better record. Sure their defense is young, but they looked pretty good against those teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ontboltsfan: New England is ranked over Pittsburgh and Baltimore because they beat both those teams, and they have a better record. Sure their defense is young, but they looked pretty good against those teams.</p>
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		<title>By: homelanddefense</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You Tampa fans are delusional.  Do they even have a win against a team that is above .500?  I dont care about blown calls, dropped passes, &quot;lucky&quot; wins, you need to beat a good team before you complain about your ranking.

Wins against Cle, Car, Cinci, Stl, Azr, Car, SF  WOW, those are some quality wins right there.

They had their chance to make a point against Pit, NO, Atl, and Balt and lost them all.  It doenst matter by how much, they lost.

I see they have ATL and NO remaining, beat one or both and then you have an argument.  The Wash, Sea, and Det games wont do much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Tampa fans are delusional.  Do they even have a win against a team that is above .500?  I dont care about blown calls, dropped passes, &#8220;lucky&#8221; wins, you need to beat a good team before you complain about your ranking.</p>
<p>Wins against Cle, Car, Cinci, Stl, Azr, Car, SF  WOW, those are some quality wins right there.</p>
<p>They had their chance to make a point against Pit, NO, Atl, and Balt and lost them all.  It doenst matter by how much, they lost.</p>
<p>I see they have ATL and NO remaining, beat one or both and then you have an argument.  The Wash, Sea, and Det games wont do much.</p>
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		<title>By: comeonnowguys</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;are we forgetting that the eagles were missing 2 of their cornerbacks? a 4 spot slide is a little unjustified considering our starting corners for the game were joselio hanson and demetri patterson (look them up, i got time) &quot;

I wonder how Packer fans field about you begging for a higher ranking because of injuries.

&quot;and we STILL only lost by 5 points. &quot;

Bears sat on the ball during the last quarter. If near-garbage time TDs are going to count for something, then you just made Bronco fans very, very happy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;are we forgetting that the eagles were missing 2 of their cornerbacks? a 4 spot slide is a little unjustified considering our starting corners for the game were joselio hanson and demetri patterson (look them up, i got time) &#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder how Packer fans field about you begging for a higher ranking because of injuries.</p>
<p>&#8220;and we STILL only lost by 5 points. &#8221;</p>
<p>Bears sat on the ball during the last quarter. If near-garbage time TDs are going to count for something, then you just made Bronco fans very, very happy.</p>
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		<title>By: hoobsher</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[are we forgetting that the eagles were missing 2 of their cornerbacks? a 4 spot slide is a little unjustified considering our starting corners for the game were joselio hanson and demetri patterson (look them up, i got time) and we STILL only lost by 5 points. not to mention WE TROUNCED THE FALCONS WITHOUT OUR STARTING QB. the bears havent beat a winning team save the eagles since the packers, and lets not forget that game was marred by 18 penalties called on the packers. the bears are by no means #7 quality and the eagles are by no means 4 spots down from last week because of that game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are we forgetting that the eagles were missing 2 of their cornerbacks? a 4 spot slide is a little unjustified considering our starting corners for the game were joselio hanson and demetri patterson (look them up, i got time) and we STILL only lost by 5 points. not to mention WE TROUNCED THE FALCONS WITHOUT OUR STARTING QB. the bears havent beat a winning team save the eagles since the packers, and lets not forget that game was marred by 18 penalties called on the packers. the bears are by no means #7 quality and the eagles are by no means 4 spots down from last week because of that game.</p>
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		<title>By: deweyaxewound</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really grendelg? You see &quot;no respect&quot; for the Falcons? 

Do me a favor--scroll back up...put your finger on the number 32, then count up 31 spots, and see who&#039;s at the #1 spot on the power rankings. 

See it now? 

How many weeks have they been there now? 

Then go check ESPN, SportingNews, SI, Yahoo, CBS, Fox Sports, USA Today, Women&#039;s Home Journal, Seventeen, and any other outlet you can find--if even ONE of them has the Falcons ranked lower than #3, after eating my hat, I&#039;ll post &quot;The Falcons are not only the best, but they get no respect&quot; at least once on every Falcons story on PFT between now and Friday, okay?  

Go on, run along now. 

(God I hate the fake &quot;we get no respect&quot; cries, because it completely de-legitimizes the real, authentic instances of disrespect...it&#039;s like listening to rock stars/celebrities whining about how hard their lives are...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really grendelg? You see &#8220;no respect&#8221; for the Falcons? </p>
<p>Do me a favor&#8211;scroll back up&#8230;put your finger on the number 32, then count up 31 spots, and see who&#8217;s at the #1 spot on the power rankings. </p>
<p>See it now? </p>
<p>How many weeks have they been there now? </p>
<p>Then go check ESPN, SportingNews, SI, Yahoo, CBS, Fox Sports, USA Today, Women&#8217;s Home Journal, Seventeen, and any other outlet you can find&#8211;if even ONE of them has the Falcons ranked lower than #3, after eating my hat, I&#8217;ll post &#8220;The Falcons are not only the best, but they get no respect&#8221; at least once on every Falcons story on PFT between now and Friday, okay?  </p>
<p>Go on, run along now. </p>
<p>(God I hate the fake &#8220;we get no respect&#8221; cries, because it completely de-legitimizes the real, authentic instances of disrespect&#8230;it&#8217;s like listening to rock stars/celebrities whining about how hard their lives are&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: gallopingghost</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ontboltfan says: 
CHI’s D is overcoming Cutler but they wont be playing MIA w a 3rd string QB and CAR every weekend.

Realy, Ontario Chargers fan?  (Sorry, I thought every PFT post had to start with &quot;really, ____?&quot;)

But seriously, where were you Sunday?  The Bears took down one of the most explosive offense in the NFL.  The Panthers game was october 10th, not sure why that came up.  Before Miami, they took down Favre + AP, and before that stopped a high octane Buffalo offense (I don&#039;t care what anyone says about that team, they are good at moving the ball downfield.).  

Oh yea, and they&#039;d have less trouble stoppin the Chargers.  And their D is twice as good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ontboltfan says:<br />
CHI’s D is overcoming Cutler but they wont be playing MIA w a 3rd string QB and CAR every weekend.</p>
<p>Realy, Ontario Chargers fan?  (Sorry, I thought every PFT post had to start with &#8220;really, ____?&#8221;)</p>
<p>But seriously, where were you Sunday?  The Bears took down one of the most explosive offense in the NFL.  The Panthers game was october 10th, not sure why that came up.  Before Miami, they took down Favre + AP, and before that stopped a high octane Buffalo offense (I don&#8217;t care what anyone says about that team, they are good at moving the ball downfield.).  </p>
<p>Oh yea, and they&#8217;d have less trouble stoppin the Chargers.  And their D is twice as good.</p>
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		<title>By: shallowfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[beckzhere,

&quot;The better team wins 99% of the time&quot;

&quot;The only way the Falcons will lose at home this year is if the Iggles come for the NFC Championship and all the knucklehead fans are cheering for the Falcons EX-quarterback instead of our present quarterback.&quot;

So if falcon fans, who are in the stands and not on the field, cheer enough for vick the eagles will win and be the better team ...or will the cheering give them that 1% edge...just enough to beat the falcons?

I think you just said the falcons will lose in the playoffs to a better eagles team right, or did I miss something?

Also, if the bucs beat the falcons by more than 4 points by your logic you HAVE to say the bucs are a better team than the falcons because 99% of the time the better team wins.  Last time bucs played atlanta came a yd short of taking lead with 2 mins to go.  So, if falcons lose by say 7 points you have to say not only did the bucs beat the falcons, they also loss to the falcons by less points so the bucs are clearly the better team.

Do we agree on this scenario?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beckzhere,</p>
<p>&#8220;The better team wins 99% of the time&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The only way the Falcons will lose at home this year is if the Iggles come for the NFC Championship and all the knucklehead fans are cheering for the Falcons EX-quarterback instead of our present quarterback.&#8221;</p>
<p>So if falcon fans, who are in the stands and not on the field, cheer enough for vick the eagles will win and be the better team &#8230;or will the cheering give them that 1% edge&#8230;just enough to beat the falcons?</p>
<p>I think you just said the falcons will lose in the playoffs to a better eagles team right, or did I miss something?</p>
<p>Also, if the bucs beat the falcons by more than 4 points by your logic you HAVE to say the bucs are a better team than the falcons because 99% of the time the better team wins.  Last time bucs played atlanta came a yd short of taking lead with 2 mins to go.  So, if falcons lose by say 7 points you have to say not only did the bucs beat the falcons, they also loss to the falcons by less points so the bucs are clearly the better team.</p>
<p>Do we agree on this scenario?</p>
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		<title>By: claymania52</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate to say this but the Bears may just be good. As a Packer fan, if last year we thought our team was good playing the schedule we played(which was easy) then we have to accept that the Bears have made this team work for whatever reason. With the schedules both teams have it could very well be a Packer- Bear classic at Lambeau the first weekend in january for the division title. Packers Peaking too soon, give me a break.....we played a damn good team on the road. Even good teams lose those from time to time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to say this but the Bears may just be good. As a Packer fan, if last year we thought our team was good playing the schedule we played(which was easy) then we have to accept that the Bears have made this team work for whatever reason. With the schedules both teams have it could very well be a Packer- Bear classic at Lambeau the first weekend in january for the division title. Packers Peaking too soon, give me a break&#8230;..we played a damn good team on the road. Even good teams lose those from time to time.</p>
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		<title>By: beckzhere</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Tampa and N.O. fans, 

The Falcons beat you once and we will do it again. Are you both good teams? Absolutely. But take it for what it is. No excuses. The better team wins 99% of the time. And IF we lose this weekend in Tampa, you won&#039;t hear any woulda/coulda/shoulda from this Falcons fan. 
The only way the Falcons will lose at home this year is if the Iggles come for the NFC Championship and all the knucklehead fans are cheering for the Falcons EX-quarterback instead of our present quarterback. 
Do they pull that nonsense in Green Bay when Favre takes the field with the Vikings?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tampa and N.O. fans, </p>
<p>The Falcons beat you once and we will do it again. Are you both good teams? Absolutely. But take it for what it is. No excuses. The better team wins 99% of the time. And IF we lose this weekend in Tampa, you won&#8217;t hear any woulda/coulda/shoulda from this Falcons fan.<br />
The only way the Falcons will lose at home this year is if the Iggles come for the NFC Championship and all the knucklehead fans are cheering for the Falcons EX-quarterback instead of our present quarterback.<br />
Do they pull that nonsense in Green Bay when Favre takes the field with the Vikings?</p>
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		<title>By: shaggytoodle</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[8. Green Bay Packers (No. 5; 7-4):  The Pack may have peaked too soon.

____________________________

Or ran into the team that you feel is the best in the league and only to lose by 3 (which is all they have EVER lost byt his season). It was a tough game, but they are competitive in every contest they play, I believe the Packers will be fine moving foward. Hopefully they can get another crack at the dirty birds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8. Green Bay Packers (No. 5; 7-4):  The Pack may have peaked too soon.</p>
<p>____________________________</p>
<p>Or ran into the team that you feel is the best in the league and only to lose by 3 (which is all they have EVER lost byt his season). It was a tough game, but they are competitive in every contest they play, I believe the Packers will be fine moving foward. Hopefully they can get another crack at the dirty birds.</p>
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		<title>By: grendelg</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really deweyaxewound? I see no respect for the Falcons... 

They were supposed to get plastered by the Packers this week according to the pundits. They were supposed to lose to the Ravens and show they really aren&#039;t that good. They were supposed to lose to the &#039;Aints in NO. 

I don&#039;t know if they&#039;re the best team in the NFL... And neither do you. We know that on Sunday they beat the Packers. We know that they beat the Ravens in Atlanta and the Saints in New Orleans. We know they lost in Pitt and Philly. We know they seem a lot better at home than on the road.

I&#039;d guess that of the Falcons, Packers, and Eagles any of them would probably win against anyone at home. I&#039;d put the Saints, Bears, and Bucs in the next tier and they&#039;ll probably beat bad teams and might upset one of the top teams at home. Other than that it&#039;s an &quot;Any Given Sunday&quot; deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really deweyaxewound? I see no respect for the Falcons&#8230; </p>
<p>They were supposed to get plastered by the Packers this week according to the pundits. They were supposed to lose to the Ravens and show they really aren&#8217;t that good. They were supposed to lose to the &#8216;Aints in NO. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if they&#8217;re the best team in the NFL&#8230; And neither do you. We know that on Sunday they beat the Packers. We know that they beat the Ravens in Atlanta and the Saints in New Orleans. We know they lost in Pitt and Philly. We know they seem a lot better at home than on the road.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d guess that of the Falcons, Packers, and Eagles any of them would probably win against anyone at home. I&#8217;d put the Saints, Bears, and Bucs in the next tier and they&#8217;ll probably beat bad teams and might upset one of the top teams at home. Other than that it&#8217;s an &#8220;Any Given Sunday&#8221; deal.</p>
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		<title>By: ontboltfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ATL lost to PIT wout Ben R. Records aside, the best team overall unit wise is BAL. Flacco has the best passer rating of anyone at home.

NE has no D and they are ranked above both. Please.

Huge overreaction to the PHI loss. They were wout starters at CB and DE and Vick had a down day. Wout the red zone pick they still would have won.

CHI&#039;s D is overcoming Cutler but they wont be playing MIA w a 3rd string QB and CAR every weekend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATL lost to PIT wout Ben R. Records aside, the best team overall unit wise is BAL. Flacco has the best passer rating of anyone at home.</p>
<p>NE has no D and they are ranked above both. Please.</p>
<p>Huge overreaction to the PHI loss. They were wout starters at CB and DE and Vick had a down day. Wout the red zone pick they still would have won.</p>
<p>CHI&#8217;s D is overcoming Cutler but they wont be playing MIA w a 3rd string QB and CAR every weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: deweyaxewound</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S. Much like it was nice to see the bubble get burst on all the Eagles hype, I will be happy to see when the same thing eventually happens to the Falcons. 

And did I really just read a Falcon fan playing the &quot;we get no respect&quot; card? 
 (&quot;Every week the national media says we can’t win this game or that game...&quot;)

Seriously? 

We&#039;re all going to need life-rafts soon, if the media slobber over the Falcs rises any higher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Much like it was nice to see the bubble get burst on all the Eagles hype, I will be happy to see when the same thing eventually happens to the Falcons. </p>
<p>And did I really just read a Falcon fan playing the &#8220;we get no respect&#8221; card?<br />
 (&#8220;Every week the national media says we can’t win this game or that game&#8230;&#8221;)</p>
<p>Seriously? </p>
<p>We&#8217;re all going to need life-rafts soon, if the media slobber over the Falcs rises any higher.</p>
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		<title>By: dscib</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Switch it up next week when Falcons get upset at TB and the Jets beat NE to prove they are truly #1.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Switch it up next week when Falcons get upset at TB and the Jets beat NE to prove they are truly #1.</p>
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		<title>By: deweyaxewound</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the 7 spot, Florio, but no thanks. 

Bears will continue to get doubted and dismissed and downplayed and dogged, because no one in the national media wants to (or has the ego strength to) admit how gloriously WRONG they were about them. 

But you know what? 

That&#039;s okay (even with you, Florio) because, even despite all our &quot;Bears get no respect&quot; bitchin&#039;--that&#039;s exactly how we want it, and exactly when the Bears are at their best.  

So next week, regardless of what happens in Detroit, please put us back down into the sneaky anonymity of the middle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the 7 spot, Florio, but no thanks. </p>
<p>Bears will continue to get doubted and dismissed and downplayed and dogged, because no one in the national media wants to (or has the ego strength to) admit how gloriously WRONG they were about them. </p>
<p>But you know what? </p>
<p>That&#8217;s okay (even with you, Florio) because, even despite all our &#8220;Bears get no respect&#8221; bitchin&#8217;&#8211;that&#8217;s exactly how we want it, and exactly when the Bears are at their best.  </p>
<p>So next week, regardless of what happens in Detroit, please put us back down into the sneaky anonymity of the middle.</p>
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		<title>By: somesome</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So the Ravens beat the Bills in the first drive in over time and drop 6 places, the Steelers almost lose in over time because of a dropped TD pass in the endzone and move up two places ....  thank god for next Sunday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the Ravens beat the Bills in the first drive in over time and drop 6 places, the Steelers almost lose in over time because of a dropped TD pass in the endzone and move up two places &#8230;.  thank god for next Sunday.</p>
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		<title>By: ruvelligwebuike</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So let&#039;s say the Packers gain 1 yard on 3 attempts from the goal line. Actually, let&#039;s not. Let&#039;s say they get a field goal instead of Rodger&#039;s first fumble of the year.

Would the Packers still have &quot;peaked too early?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let&#8217;s say the Packers gain 1 yard on 3 attempts from the goal line. Actually, let&#8217;s not. Let&#8217;s say they get a field goal instead of Rodger&#8217;s first fumble of the year.</p>
<p>Would the Packers still have &#8220;peaked too early?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: gamustangdude</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@bucsballer

The point is we beat GB barely or not it&#039;s still a &quot;W.&quot;  Same thing with the Saints, another &quot;W.&quot;
You barley lost to the Falcons?  More total offense and more total defense, but we barley beat the Bucs, cool the point is it&#039;s a nothe &quot;W.&quot;  This is the NFL, not college football, if you&#039;re considering a point differential as a status of &quot;ass whoopinery,&quot;  then you&#039;re not a real football fan.  90% of NFL games are close games on paper.

Don&#039;t worry you&#039;ll have another chance this weekend.  Be sure to leave more comments again next week, as the Dirty Birds earn another &quot;W.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bucsballer</p>
<p>The point is we beat GB barely or not it&#8217;s still a &#8220;W.&#8221;  Same thing with the Saints, another &#8220;W.&#8221;<br />
You barley lost to the Falcons?  More total offense and more total defense, but we barley beat the Bucs, cool the point is it&#8217;s a nothe &#8220;W.&#8221;  This is the NFL, not college football, if you&#8217;re considering a point differential as a status of &#8220;ass whoopinery,&#8221;  then you&#8217;re not a real football fan.  90% of NFL games are close games on paper.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry you&#8217;ll have another chance this weekend.  Be sure to leave more comments again next week, as the Dirty Birds earn another &#8220;W.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: drumzan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Dolphins are the most underrated team in the NFL.  And they&#039;ll prove it in week 14 vs the Jets.]]></description>
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