Skip to content

Hines Ward becomes the latest Steeler to complain about the league

Hines Ward

The Steelers continue their short-sighted assault on the NFL’s attempt to deal with the potential problems of concussions and other avoidable player injuries.

The latest?  Receiver Hines Ward, who accused the league of hypocrisy in a nonsensical rant about the league’s current stance on fining players like teammate James Harrison for hitting certain players in defenseless postures with his helmet and/or in the helmet.

Say one thing, and do another,” Ward said, per the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.  “Talk about safety, but you add two games.  Talk about you don’t want players to drink, but our major endorsement is Coors Light.  That’s all you see is beer commercials.”

Of course, those beer commercials give a lot of money to the networks, who give a lot of money to the league, which gives a lot of money to the players.

Besides, when did the NFL ever say they don’t want players to drink?  The NFL doesn’t want players to drink to excess and then drive a car, especially when the players have available to them at any time the means for getting a free, no-questions-asked ride home.

In the clip appearing below, Ward laments the rules regarding the quarterback strike zone.  “Can’t hit him in the helmet, can’t him in the knees.  Where can you hit a quarterback?” Ward said, not realizing that he’d answered his own question by identifying the top and the bottom of the quarterback strike zone.

Ward also echoed teammate Troy Polamalu’s recent criticism of the process for appealing fines, which was based on the flawed assumption that the league office resolves the appeals.  Ward claims that he’s never seen a successful appeal, even though Jets linebacker Bart Scott recently won an appeal of $30,000 in fines for not fastening his chinstrap.  Chiefs defensive end Shaun Smith likewise won an appeal of a $10,000 fine for grabbing an opponent’s crotch.

The problem continues to be, in our view, an outright refusal by the Steelers organization to set aside its short-sighted, results-driven focus on winning games now in favor of a broader view regarding the issues that could undermine the overall success of the league in the future.  Though it doesn’t help matters when guys like Raiders defensive end Richard Seymour are fined only $25,000 for decking Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger after the whistle, this franchise desperately needs some four-letter words of wisdom from Dan Rooney regarding the potential harm that men like Ward and Harrison and Polamlu and coach Mike Tomlin and even team president Art Rooney are doing to the long-term interests of the game by offering up illogical, incorrect, and/or selfishly-motivated sound bites in lieu of simply adjusting to the rules.

On that last point, we’ll have more on how the league office could put an end to the clattering chatter from Pittsburgh later this morning.

Permalink 101 Comments Feed for comments Latest Stories in: Pittsburgh Steelers, Rumor Mill, Sprint Football Live - Rumors, Top Stories
101 Responses to “Hines Ward becomes the latest Steeler to complain about the league”
  1. ladybanks says: Dec 2, 2010 10:20 AM

    I think we get how much u dislike the Steelers. Its kinda becoming blatant at this point. Nothing about what Hines said wasnt true. And if u were checking facts, which u arent, u would know that Dan Rooney himself is just as pissed about the leagues vail of hypocrisy

  2. weareluckytohavemikeflorio says: Dec 2, 2010 10:21 AM

    Rooney needs to reign in his team’s whining.
    How about taking a look in the mirror. When you lay your rearend down with dogs, you end up with fleas.

  3. steelersmichele says: Dec 2, 2010 10:21 AM

    The only difference between the Steelers players and players from other teams is that the Steelers don’t apologize.

    Did you see Seymour after the game–I’m sorry. Johnson and Finnegan–I’m sorry. I wonder if the league would be fining Harrison as much if he apologized, vowed to changed his ways, and basically kiss goodell’s a$$.

    THe league is trying to break Harrison. He’s the only one getting fined now. The first week the league was fine happy. The second week, same thing. Now, since they got everyone (except Harrison) to fall in line and do exactly what they want, there have been no other fines–except Harrison.

    You mean no one else in the league hit a QB in the chest with his helmet? Why bother fining those guys when you can give Florio more “Steelers” posts to boost his site.

    As for the drinking issue, those guys have a free ride. There are quite a few players who have been arrested more than once for DUIs, but the league won’t suspend or fine them. If you get in trouble twice for drinking and driving, I think the player should be held accountable since they aren’t following the league rules. But it appears that Goodell supports players driving drunk. He supports DUIs.

  4. The James Harrison Foundation says: Dec 2, 2010 10:21 AM

    Hey Florio, how about being an unbiased reporter? Whether you love or hate the Steelers I don’t care, but act like a real journalist and leave your irrelevant opinion out of it. You sound more like a cross between a Baltimore beat-writer and Roger Godell in the way you are handling Steelers stories lately.

    Hines Ward is entitled to his opinion, and titling the story “Hines Ward becomes the latest Steeler to complain about the league” instead of “Hines Ward speaks out against league expectations” already plants a false message in the head of your readers.

    I understand page hits are the ultimate goal, but isn’t reporting the news in a way your readers would like it reported (i.e. the facts) more important to you?

    I think I answered my own question with this post.

  5. andyprough says: Dec 2, 2010 10:23 AM

    @Florio – don’t be hypocritical. You yourself have used the same arguments against the 18 game schedule and beer commercials countless times.

    And your own examples are clearly not relevant – fastening your chin strap and groping guy’s packages are completely different activities – Ward is clearly talking about the “legislating from the bench” that is going on with respect to fining for hard hits. Not dangerous hits, not helmet to helmet hits – not even hits that have been deemed illegal by the league’s rule-making body. Legal hits that the commissioner’s office – judge, jury, and executioner – has decided on a constantly changing whim are “too hard”

    The commissioner is not following the rules that have been set forth by the league’s rule-making authorities. He has attempted to usurp all power, like Ceasar. What he does not understand is that his authority under the personal conduct clauses of the collective bargaining agreement does not extend to allowing him to determine retrospectively from week-to-week what types of hits will or will not be allowable – those decisions have already been determined by rule

  6. bspurloc says: Dec 2, 2010 10:23 AM

    he should point out that helmet to helmet hit Monday which got a penalty….. except for the fact the player had established the ball and was running up the field.
    which they league has stated helmet to helmet is OK on a runner. it is not ok on a defenseless receiver.
    that flag should never had happend.
    He should also point out how monday nights game had the INTENTIONAL GROUNDING flag not thrown even after review showed it true. but the ref said they can not throw a flag after a review… YET they did that EXACT thing for belicheat when he threw a red flag disputing too many players on the field.

  7. footballphan says: Dec 2, 2010 10:26 AM

    All they do is whine. Yesterday it was Tomlin, giving us a ‘poor me’ slant on James Harrison. “He’s got 2 kids.” Yeah, and a 50+ million dollar contract.

    Then it was Wines Hard after that (sorry, Hines Ward) complaining as Florio says, in a non-sensical rant.

    Just abt everyday it’s Harrison whining abt his inability to understand the rules that a bunch of other great defensive players don’t seem to have a problem with. How many times can you be dumb enough to lead with your helmet, James?

    Last week it was Roethlisberger, who was lobbying for Seymour to get suspended, even though NO player in the history of the nfl has EVER been suspended for fighting. Then a couple weeks before, you had Troy Polamalu whining abt the appeal process (which he doesn’t even correctly understand, and make an idiot out of himself)

    That’s Harrison, Tomlin, Big Ben, Ward, Polamalu, Rooney, and the entire fanbase doing nothing but whining the entire year, over a rule that no one else seems to have ANY problem with.

  8. clock1is1king says: Dec 2, 2010 10:26 AM

    So let me get this straight, the most successful franchise in NFL history needs to shut up about being targeted by the NFL?

    Why? The Steelers have a winning formula, and part of that formula includes imposing their will upon their opponents by playing SMASHMOUTH football.

    The thing that is going to kill football is the front office and agenda driven media shills, not the players.

    Florio, your rage at your childhood team for wanting to keep football a full contact sport is very alarming.

    What has happened to you? Why are you taking sides with the league and not the players?

  9. rustbeltbrotherhood says: Dec 2, 2010 10:27 AM

    He’s right about the expansion of the season… dumbest idea ever.

    The Coors Light endorsement… not a good argument. Fans like beer. Players shouldn’t drink. Simple.

  10. buckeye044 says: Dec 2, 2010 10:27 AM

    Did Florio write this or Patriot Peter King?

    The four letter words of wisdom from the Ambassador need to go to the league office for destroying the integrity of the game with unfair officiating.

    But then again, that is not allowed to be discussed by the “media”.

  11. realitypolice says: Dec 2, 2010 10:30 AM

    Hysterical.

    The fact that this band of retards is one of the best teams in football shows how smart you really have to be to be a football player.

    I almost fell over laughing when I read the quote “can’t hit em in the helmet, can’t hit em in the knees”, as if those are the only parts a qb has.

    I envisioned tiny beings with just knees and heads scurrying around the field with the Steelers trying to figure out where to hit them.

    And I love the way the league not wanting players to get drunk and drive around at 2:30am during the season somehow turned into not wanting players to drink.

    In a way, I feel sorry for them. I can see why someone so utterly stupid would have a hard time understanding the rules.

  12. DonRSD says: Dec 2, 2010 10:31 AM

    the Pittsburgh CHEATers strike again.

    how dare they complain when the refs handed them last 2 superbowls they won

  13. richm2256 says: Dec 2, 2010 10:32 AM

    Is it me, or is this group of former “tough guys” becoming the whiniest bunch of hypocrites ever to strap on helmets? I’m honestly getting sick of hearing all their whining.

    Hey Steelers, do us all a favor and just STFU and play the damn games. Gawd, what a bunch of Nancy’s they’ve become.

  14. tobygrizwold says: Dec 2, 2010 10:32 AM

    Just like Steeler fans. Whine nonstop.

  15. tritan306 says: Dec 2, 2010 10:33 AM

    And Steeler fans call the Ravens players “whiners”.

    Hello Pot… meet Kettle.

  16. dman19 says: Dec 2, 2010 10:33 AM

    Nice tone Florio..Spoken like a true lawyer..It’s jackwagons like yourself and Goodell that make this once beautiful sport unwatchable…Why don’t u start covering the local high scholl diving championships..Football is beyond your grasp…twerp

  17. p4ever says: Dec 2, 2010 10:34 AM

    On that last point, we’ll have more on how the league office could put an end to the clattering chatter from Pittsburgh later this morning.

    ———————————–

    Let me guess; more Dictatorship?

  18. takemytalentstosoutheuclid says: Dec 2, 2010 10:35 AM

    Maybe Hines should read this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Webster

    before he flaps his gums any more.

  19. johntonioholmes says: Dec 2, 2010 10:35 AM

    You’re awful, Florio.

    You didn’t even include the part about how Stroud should have been flagged and fined for working Roethlisberger over after the play was dead.

    Not only that, but you didn’t defer to his criticism about the league allegedly caring about player safety while wanting to add more games.

    The league is using the fines on Harrison as a window dressing to act like they are doing something about player safety. If you honestly think the NFL is trying to protect players by outlawing hits to the chest, you are more naive than any analyst should be.

    His point wasn’t that the league shouldn’t try to protect players. His point was that the league ISN’T trying to protect players.

    I would think an astute legal mind could recognize the semantics of an argument.

    I WOULD think that because I once respected your analyses.

    But it’s so patently obvious that you are in the bag for the league.
    NFL–>NBC–>PTF

    You were the last cog in a line of NFL mouthpieces too. Sports journalism is dead.

  20. erikinhell says: Dec 2, 2010 10:35 AM

    Whines Hard is at it again. This guy has put up the most hits against defenseless players (legally), but he wants to whine the most about the rules. If the NFL ever starts fining for the blindside comeback blocks he provides, he may as well retire.

  21. footballphan says: Dec 2, 2010 10:36 AM

    The funny thing is that each and every one of them have been wrong. They aren’t just complaining, they’re making themselves look like morons by not understanding the rules, fines, appeals process, where you can hit a QB, etc.

    If they had simply been complaining, that be one thing, but they’re complaining and being proven wrong at the same time. Their obvious inability to understand the rules, fines, and appeals process just make them look silly.

  22. all4patriots says: Dec 2, 2010 10:36 AM

    I like the way the Steelers play fooball, but put a microphone in front of any of them and they seem to become exposed as whiny stupid jocks who don’t even bother to learn the facts before griping about them. They don’t rise to the Bill Polian, Ladainian Tomlinson, or Terrell Suggs level of crybaby antics, but it can get close.

  23. peytonwantsaflag says: Dec 2, 2010 10:38 AM

    Has somebody checked the Steeler locker room for lead?

    – seriously, I’m a long time hater but you gotta worry about the decreasingly intelligent comments coming from out their mouths.

  24. meso0rnery says: Dec 2, 2010 10:38 AM

    As a Steeler fan, I really do wish that they would just shut up and play. If the league really is out to get them, this will only add fuel to the fire. Now what’s to stop the league from telling officials to make sure to call a few extra holding penalties on crucial third downs against the Steelers? Just focus on beating each team that you face, and take your anger out on them. Bring back the Band of Brothers. GO STEELERS!

  25. holeinone09 says: Dec 2, 2010 10:40 AM

    Florio, are you being paid by the NFL to quash and belittle anything that is said by players against the NFL, and especially said by Steelers personnel? I have been saying that the backlash against GODell and his inconsistent fining system is growing, and it’s not just the Steelers organization as you make it out to be. Do you ever listen to other experts? Yesterday, Adam Schefter said the same thing about the inconsistency of the fines, and many others have also.

    I hope the players unions adds this issue to the table. Then, when it becomes a stumbling block for the owners to continue to make their millions and millions, maybe GODell will back off somewhat. Yes, eliminate the clearly intentional illegal helmet-to-helmet hits, but stop penalizing a legal hit like Harrison put on Fitzpatrick last week.

    GO STEELERS!!

  26. citizenstrange says: Dec 2, 2010 10:41 AM

    I guess Ward is just wondering why when he is the recipient of a helmet to helmet hit there is no flag and no fine. Roethlisberger takes at least three illegal hits every game with no flag and no foul. Goodell has to start calling it both ways.

    GO STEELERS!

  27. Spoonthis says: Dec 2, 2010 10:43 AM

    Who are you Florio to tell Dan Rooney what his franchise desperately needs? A blogger with no journalistic integrity.

  28. jreiner3 says: Dec 2, 2010 10:44 AM

    Hines did get one thing right, the league does not care about player safety anymore now than they ever have. Of course his reasoning for the NFL stepping up its efforts against head trauma was wrong, its not because they want an 18 game season (although they do want that) its mainly because they dont want to be sued by some ex-player with soggy shredded wheat for brains because the NFL was negligent. Think it can’t happen how about Joe smoker vs Marlboro. The studies are conclusive playing football breaks your noggin.

  29. section731 says: Dec 2, 2010 10:47 AM

    Florio – start a website called touchfootballtalk.com – no one wants to see the game that you are selling. I don’t like the Steelers – but I love the way that Harrison and Ward play the game. Receivers should be mervous about going over the middle – that is what seperates the Jerry Rices from the Randy Moss. It is also why receivers like Art Monk, Wes Welker and Jason Avant have careers. They aren’t afraid to travel over the middle where their head might get knocked off. TO and Moss wont do that. With these rules – everyone will prance across the middle while the DBs have to watch.

  30. The James Harrison Foundation says: Dec 2, 2010 10:47 AM

    Damn Florio hook me up with tickets to next years Rookie Synopsism. Attending is the only way you could know for sure that the NFL doesnt tell players not to drink.

  31. wycoff says: Dec 2, 2010 10:48 AM

    “The problem continues to be, in our view, an outright refusal by the Steelers organization to set aside its short-sighted, results-driven focus on winning games now in favor of a broader view regarding the issues that could undermine the overall success of the league in the future. ”

    What a joke. Subjective penalties and fines for defensive hits will “undermine the overall success of the league in the future.” Right now, defenses, especially the Steelers’ defense, have no way to confidently tackle or otherwise play defense without being penalized. It’s worse than the NBA at this point

    The NFL is swiftly becoming a joke. If they want to ban tackling the quarterback or wide receivers, then they should just give them flags.

    I hope that the Steelers lead the charge of secession from the NFL to the UFL. Leave Goodell holding the bag.

  32. holeinone09 says: Dec 2, 2010 10:48 AM

    footballphan says:
    Dec 2, 2010 10:26 AM
    All they do is whine. Yesterday it was Tomlin, giving us a ‘poor me’ slant on James Harrison. “He’s got 2 kids.” Yeah, and a 50+ million dollar contract.

    Then it was Wines Hard after that (sorry, Hines Ward) complaining as Florio says, in a non-sensical rant.

    Just abt everyday it’s Harrison whining abt his inability to understand the rules that a bunch of other great defensive players don’t seem to have a problem with. How many times can you be dumb enough to lead with your helmet, James?

    Last week it was Roethlisberger, who was lobbying for Seymour to get suspended, even though NO player in the history of the nfl has EVER been suspended for fighting. Then a couple weeks before, you had Troy Polamalu whining abt the appeal process (which he doesn’t even correctly understand, and make an idiot out of himself)

    That’s Harrison, Tomlin, Big Ben, Ward, Polamalu, Rooney, and the entire fanbase doing nothing but whining the entire year, over a rule that no one else seems to have ANY problem with.

    * * * * *

    1. Harrison is not making $50M this year. It was reported that his salary this year is somewhere between $750-$900K this year, making his $125K of fines a significant portion of his salary. If he gets cut or injured and can no longer play, he does not make all that money. You should have a better understanding of NFL contracts before you make such a stupid statement.

    2. Where in the NEWS did Ben say that Seymour should be suspended? Please post a link to that story, to prove your comment.

    3. Nobody else has a problem with this? Did you read that yesterday, PFT pointed out that Suggs has a problem with it. And he is not alone.

    Thanks for making a complete fool of yourself, in your blind hatred of the Steelers.

    GO STEELERS!!

  33. ben4canton says: Dec 2, 2010 10:51 AM

    Florio,
    I love your site and really enjoy what you post but the anti Steelers postings are really starting to get old. Try watching what Jason Harrison does, you’ll see other players doing the same things in every game.

  34. deweyaxewound says: Dec 2, 2010 10:52 AM

    Speaking of illogical, incorrect, or selfishly motivated:

    “Quarterback strike zone” is a phrase and idea that anyone who’s actually played the game (besides maybe QBs) rejects as being ridiculous, illogical, impractical, arbitrary, and antithetical to the design, intent, purpose and reality of the game.

    It’s a concept that analysts, announcers, writers, and fans like to use and emphasize.

    But for players (especially on defense), and for those who truly understand the speed and intensity of the game–it’s absolutely ridiculous.

    There should be ONE call: “Unnecessary roughness/roughing the passer”, and officials should be able to use their common sense, experience and discretion to decide one simple thing:

    Was the defender’s hit on the QB intentionally unsafe, or a deliberate attempt to harm him?
    Was it “gratuitously” brutal?

    Other than that–let them play.
    The league will NEVER be able to legislate and regulate its way to a 100% injury-free game, not without compromising the competitive integrity of the game itself, and thereby ruining it.

    Dammit if they’re not trying, though.

  35. wycoff says: Dec 2, 2010 10:52 AM

    jreiner3 says:
    Dec 2, 2010 10:44 AM

    its mainly because they dont want to be sued by some ex-player with soggy shredded wheat for brains because the NFL was negligent. Think it can’t happen how about Joe smoker vs Marlboro. The studies are conclusive playing football breaks your noggin.
    _________________

    So does boxing and MMA, yet they’re still around. Assumption of the risk.

  36. takingbacksundays5 says: Dec 2, 2010 10:54 AM

    As a Ravens fan, I am loving this. Yes, I’m well aware that the Ravens are known for whining, but it’s never been like this. It’s become an every week occurrence for the Steelers now. Have you even heard so much as a peep from the Ravens about these stricter rule changes? Nope. Haloti Ngata was fined several weeks ago for a very questionable late hit, and what was his response? He kept quiet and paid his fine.

    I can’t help but think Goodell is in the Steelers’ heads now. It’s quite obvious. They are weak-willed and playing distracted. They completely wilted in the Bills game after the Harrison penalty, and I’m hoping for more of the same on Sunday night in Baltimore.

  37. kaninny says: Dec 2, 2010 10:55 AM

    Florio you just woke up this news has been HOT for almost 18 hours. I guess NBC has the muzzle on you on this one and not out scoop Bob Costas when he stirs th pot later this week for sunday nignt. Write the whole story or for those that are interested just google news Hines Ward. Hines, James Farrior, Ryan Clark, James Harrison with Mikes best buddy Ben. Unloaded on the League , the officials and the Union someone called out the union Mr. DeMarurice. Now an out burst of this magnitude had to be appoved from the top of the organization. So do not blame the players Mike there is some things bubbling under the skin of the players accross the league (Urlacher, Suggs) and it is about to reach it’s tipping point. Then you will have lots to complain about. The word is that Mr Dan Rooney was in the states last week and called his old buddy Rodger to chat being the diplomat he is. I guess that conversation did not go well. So the message needed expressed from other sources. So quit cherry picking and para phasing quotes and get the stories correct!!!

  38. semperfi24 says: Dec 2, 2010 10:56 AM

    The James Harrison Foundation says: Dec 2, 2010 10:21 AM

    I understand page hits are the ultimate goal, but isn’t reporting the news in a way your readers would like it reported (i.e. the facts) more important to you?

    ___________________________________

    Translation, I am a Steelers fan. I dont like negative stories about the Steelers. Please make all stories regarding the Steelers puff pieces. Leave the negativity for the other 31 teams that I dont root for.

    You must be new here, part of “Florio’s schtick”, is that he takes the facts of the case, and as a fan, just like all other fans, including you, he looks at the facts, he develops his own opinion on the facts, and then he writes a story about it, using his opinion. That IS profootballtalk.com. If you dont like that, go start your own website and report, just the facts, in black and white, no gray areas, no opinions, no concepts, no humor….. Look at it this way, every story Florio writes, is going to appease 31 fan bases, while irritating 1. Come back tomorrow and tell Florio the same thing when he is writing a “negative” slant on the facts when writing a story about a team you hate….

  39. blackngoldmachine says: Dec 2, 2010 10:56 AM

    The rest of the league is just turning soft like the rest of this country. Too many “time outs” and not enuff ass kickin. Everyone is worried about other people’s feelings and being politically correct. The Steelers are just too tuff for everybody. Like the famous USMC General Chesty Puller said..”if we turn soft as a nation, others will take our women and breed a heartier race”. So true…so true.

  40. maddog111 says: Dec 2, 2010 10:57 AM

    It’s the arbitrary nature of the fines that he’s complaining about. There’s no rhyme or reason to it. How can there be no flag or penalty against the helmet to helmet to hit he took two weeks ago. The play was overturned on a challenge by the Pats, a good challenge by BB, because he had not established a football move before dropping the ball. But if that’s the case, he’s a defenseless receiver, and was hit helmet to helmet. If he had made a football move, the helmet to helmet hit is fine, but it’s a fumble, which he then recovered. Can you not see why he’d be frustrated about that?

  41. realitypolice says: Dec 2, 2010 10:58 AM

    steelersmichele says:
    Dec 2, 2010 10:21 AM

    You mean no one else in the league hit a QB in the chest with his helmet? Why bother fining those guys when you can give Florio more “Steelers” posts to boost his site.

    =====================

    Did you see anyone else hit a QB in the chest with their helmet last week and not get fined?

    Are you denying that sticking your helmet in a QB’s chest is, and has been for several years, against the rules?

  42. artiesliver says: Dec 2, 2010 11:01 AM

    The Steelers don’t know how to play any other way.
    They are too stupid to not play like thugs and punks.
    There are other good teams who have adapted to the new rules but the Steelers think they are entitled to play like thugs.
    They know that if they can’t cheat and play dirty and hurt a good QB on purpose then they have no shot at winning another Super Bowl.

  43. gettape says: Dec 2, 2010 11:02 AM

    Wow…here is something refreshing and new……….A Steeler whining about the NFL, a flag, a rule, imagine trying to server one of these guys in a restaurant? The biggest babies in all of pro sports;

    1. Steelers
    2. Ravens
    3. Liverpool soccer

  44. TheDPR says: Dec 2, 2010 11:03 AM

    The Steelers get preferential treatment for decades and the first season it looks like one of their dirty players is getting “picked on” they all come out whining and crying like pee wee football parents.

    These aren’t new rules, just new penalties for rules punks like Harrison have been breaking for years.

    I used to not mind the Steelers much, being a fan of an NFC team, but these clowns are getting as annoying as the freaking Cowboys.

  45. cd_ridge says: Dec 2, 2010 11:03 AM

    Florio, do not be foolish. Even Terrell Suggs sees what is going on.

  46. easyeddie says: Dec 2, 2010 11:04 AM

    Harrison was put on notice earlier this season that he’d be held strictly accoutnable by the league because of his being a repeat offender. Why is that so hard for Whines Hard (love that name) to understand?

  47. ultimatebriand says: Dec 2, 2010 11:06 AM

    Hines Ward is 100% correct on this (and no I’m not a Steelers fan). Sorry Florio, but C’mon man!

  48. deadguy73 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:06 AM

    Good to hear the players opinions. People in Pittsburgh are sick of seeing our best players singled out and torn down. I’ve never seen any league come after a player or a team like this. How fair is it to have the Goodell’s goons screw with one of the best LB’s during the season… and its for his play… not character.

    I will be boycotting the NFL. I hope the rest of this city gets just as fed up as I am. If they want to ensure a bright future, then don’t alienate one of the most devoted fan bases.

    At least I had 30 years of real football. Goodbye.

  49. peytonwantsaflag says: Dec 2, 2010 11:11 AM

    Buck up Mr. Florio- if all these Squealer fans new how many of my Steeler-hating replies and my admittedly ad hominum attacks of their fans you scrub they wouldn’t be so quick to judge your intregity and objectivity.

  50. Omar Comin says: Dec 2, 2010 11:14 AM

    Hines as a die hard Ravens fan I can’t express how much I hate you and your stupid smirk, but I always respect your toughness. Coors Light comment is ridiculous. Drink up, but just don’t be a degenerate and get behind the wheel like tons and tons of your fellow NFLPA members who are multi-millionaires but won’t pay for a DD.

    I will however crush about 16 ice cold rocky blue mountain Coors Lights this Sunday evening before and during the game and WALK home from the stadium.. but that’s just a privilege I have.

    17-10 Purple City Bird Gang

  51. savocabol1 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:14 AM

    ladybanks says:
    Dec 2, 2010 10:20 AM
    I think we get how much u dislike the Steelers. Its kinda becoming blatant at this point.

    To you and all the other posters with a similiar comment. If you guys frequent this site enough you would know that the Steelers are in fact the team he rooted for growing up. He won’t outright say it but the Steelers are his team.

  52. mjdkid100 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:15 AM

    Another day, Another whining Steeler. All Wines Hard does is block people when they arent looking, wow, great job.

    I will agree that the fines could be more consistent, but the fact is your idiot outside linebacker constantly hits people with his helmet or in the QBs head and that’s why he gets fined.

  53. mjdkid100 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:16 AM

    #
    citizenstrange says: Dec 2, 2010 10:41 AM

    I guess Ward is just wondering why when he is the recipient of a helmet to helmet hit there is no flag and no fine. Roethlisberger takes at least three illegal hits every game with no flag and no foul. Goodell has to start calling it both ways.

    GO STEELERS!

    You are stupid. He ran into Sanders facemask. Sanders didnt lower his helmet and didnt lead with it. Ward led with his helmet and hurt himself. Then the Steelers got dominated.

  54. tlloyd23 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:16 AM

    Florio:

    Your hatred of the Steelers leads me to believe 2 things:

    1) The team you rooted for as a kid must have gotten their asses kicked by the Steelers when you were growing up.

    2)there must be more Steeler fans then anyone else out there so that your site gets more hits so you drum up the biased onsided stories…that being said…

    You and Goodell should go start a league and leave the NFL alone…If you dont want to play football and instead wanna play so watered down dirrivitive, please take the dumbass commish and go start the PFFL, Proffessional Flag Football Team…Leave the NFL that I have grown up with and everyone else has gorwn up with alone.

    Men like you, Goodell, and the other pencil pushing bean counters that have never played football but get to decide on of influence it’s fate are pathetic.

    I think jealousy and idiocracy comes from you and the NFL front office, not the players playing the game how it has been for the past 50+ years.

    As for the player safety, they men that sign up know what they are getting into, a physical game that involves risk of injury.

    By the way the team I root for has 6 Lombardi’s, how many does your team have?

    You are a tool of the league and of Goodell. Hope you enjoy this stint while it lasts cuz between you Goodell and the other talking heads who dont have a clue…the NFL will be the Ex-NFL cuz this labor situation coupled with the pussification of the NFL, Spygate being swepted under the rug, Spygate II…

    All will culminate this offseason with the UFL gets 80-90% of the NFL players becuz the NFL will be dead…hopefully the teams move as well…

  55. connie73 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:16 AM

    I live in Steeler country. I can’t believe how these
    grown men cry and cry and cry. They are making a complete A_ _ of them selves.

  56. mjdkid100 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:17 AM

    #
    ladybanks says: Dec 2, 2010 10:20 AM

    I think we get how much u dislike the Steelers. Its kinda becoming blatant at this point. Nothing about what Hines said wasnt true. And if u were checking facts, which u arent, u would know that Dan Rooney himself is just as pissed about the leagues vail of hypocrisy

    Nothing he said wasnt true? Right in the actual article you probably didnt finish reading since youre a steeler fan, PFT points out how he is wrong about appeals…

  57. bradwins says: Dec 2, 2010 11:18 AM

    Do Steeler fans ever get tired of their players being an embarrassment?

    Are Steeler players encouraged to embarrass themselves by the team’s management?

    The only way to get Steeler players to stop saying idiotic things to the media is to stop putting microphones in front of them.

    Has there ever been such a classless, clueless organization in the history of sports?

  58. tkebean says: Dec 2, 2010 11:20 AM

    Ok…call the Steelers whiners, call their fans whiners…who cares.

    Want to know why the other 31 teams in the league and their fans say that? Jealousy and envy. 6 Lombardi’s is all that matters and makes the Steelers the most successful team in the Super Bowl era.

    The league should listen to the best organization in the NFL…the Pittsburgh Steelers.

  59. pitsteelers says: Dec 2, 2010 11:21 AM

    This site was so much better years ago before it had national recognition. It is unbelievable that you would defend the NFL and their greed, but then again you know where your bread is buttered. To criticize respected players like Ward and Polamalu just shows what a weasel you really are.

  60. connie73 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:21 AM

    for deadguy73
    What are you going to do to boycott nfl????
    Stop watching the games.
    Your full of you know what.

  61. buckeye044 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:22 AM

    Hey, all4patriots

    Those microphone that are in front of them……did they come from the one’s your coach puts on the pads of his defensive players to catch the audible calls of opponents?

  62. trickbunny says: Dec 2, 2010 11:26 AM

    Funny how half of the Steelers-related posts are filled with commenters bitching at Florio for his biased affection FOR the Steelers and the other half are people who are bitching about Florio’s bias AGAINST the Steelers.

    Make up your minds, people.

  63. savocabol1 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:28 AM

    wow going back and reading these comments is hilarious. you stiller fans are something else. whine when someone attacks your team, then complain when your getting screwed. didnt hear any complaints when the refs literally handed one (if not both) of your recent superbowls.

    some of your arguments such as ‘no one gets fined but the steelers’, ‘the league/florio/world is out to get the steelers’, and ‘these hits (that knock people out rendering them unconscious/injured) didnt draw a flag so how could they be fined?’ are some of the worst arguments i have ever heard. if you were to use facts instead of passion your comments would sound more resonable instead of whining. just like your favorite team’s players, you ignore common sense facts in your feable attempt to support your team. typical stiller fans.

  64. maddog111 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:28 AM

    gettape says:
    Dec 2, 2010 11:02 AM
    Wow…here is something refreshing and new……….A Steeler whining about the NFL, a flag, a rule, imagine trying to server one of these guys in a restaurant? The biggest babies in all of pro sports;

    1. Steelers
    2. Ravens
    3. Liverpool soccer
    ———————————————–
    You lose all credibilty for referencing soccer. Get off your computer and go watch your DVR’s of the View pansy.

  65. shakenblake1 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:30 AM

    “Though it doesn’t help matters when guys like Raiders defensive end Richard Seymour are fined only $25,000 for decking Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger after the whistle, this franchise desperately needs some four-letter words of wisdom from Dan Rooney regarding the potential harm that men like Ward and Harrison and Polamlu and coach Mike Tomlin and even team president Art Rooney are doing to the long-term interests of the game by offering up illogical, incorrect, and/or selfishly-motivated sound bites in lieu of simply adjusting to the rules.”

    __________________________

    Holy run-on sentence batman!! *throws Mike a period*

  66. easyeddie says: Dec 2, 2010 11:38 AM

    deadguy73 says:
    Dec 2, 2010 11:06 AM
    Good to hear the players opinions. People in Pittsburgh are sick of seeing our best players singled out and torn down. I’ve never seen any league come after a player or a team like this. How fair is it to have the Goodell’s goons screw with one of the best LB’s during the season… and its for his play… not character.

    If they want to ensure a bright future, then don’t alienate one of the most devoted fan bases.

    ——————————-
    Who else has been singled out on the Steelers?
    They are “coming after” Harrison because he keeps on doing what they say players may not do….several times now.

    And let me see if I follow your last point. Goodell’s
    “goons” should let a repeat offender flaunt their rule and warnings because it is allienating Steeler fans?

  67. olcap says: Dec 2, 2010 11:50 AM

    The “league” and Miss goodell could easily end the hits they supposedly “want” to end, by removing the facemasks from the helmets, or by relacing the hard helmets with soft ones, like the old leather helmets.

    That the “league” and her hineyness goodell don’t do this is the indicator that they are full of nothing but hot air and horse excrement.

  68. ampats says: Dec 2, 2010 11:52 AM

    Hines Ward is the biggest whiner in the NFL.

    Maybe he can cry like he did after the Bettis AFC Championship loss.

    How did that November 17th beatdown of the Patriots work that the Steer toadies were predicting since the summer ?

    Could it be another playoff less season for the Black/yellow towels wavers ?

  69. favrecansuckit says: Dec 2, 2010 12:01 PM

    It’s obvious that the constant whining from Steeler fans rubbed off on them from the teams players

  70. deadguy73 says: Dec 2, 2010 12:11 PM

    easyeddie says:
    Dec 2, 2010 11:38 AM
    deadguy73 says:
    Dec 2, 2010 11:06 AM
    Good to hear the players opinions. People in Pittsburgh are sick of seeing our best players singled out and torn down. I’ve never seen any league come after a player or a team like this. How fair is it to have the Goodell’s goons screw with one of the best LB’s during the season… and its for his play… not character.

    If they want to ensure a bright future, then don’t alienate one of the most devoted fan bases.

    ——————————-
    Who else has been singled out on the Steelers?
    They are “coming after” Harrison because he keeps on doing what they say players may not do….several times now.

    And let me see if I follow your last point. Goodell’s
    “goons” should let a repeat offender flaunt their rule and warnings because it is allienating Steeler fans?
    ————————-
    “Repeat offender”
    B.S. I have no time to debate you. working. Don’t really care either. Harrison plays football. that is all. His play is not dirty. He plays like every other player I’ve respected over the years.

  71. deadguy73 says: Dec 2, 2010 12:12 PM

    for deadguy73
    What are you going to do to boycott nfl????
    Stop watching the games.
    Your full of you know what.
    —————–
    Turning in my season tickets for one. stop watching, and stop buying.

  72. BernardPollardIsAnAss says: Dec 2, 2010 12:28 PM

    He’s just pissed because Harrison has taken away his title as the dirtiest player in the league.

  73. footballisking says: Dec 2, 2010 12:49 PM

    Florio could you suck up to Goodell anymore???
    Sad that all the media is leaving out what Ward said about the league rejecting helmets that would be better suited to protect players

    Florio you are going to be in for this 0ff-season when the league loses this battle and Goodell is put under control then you will have to find another man crush

  74. maddog111 says: Dec 2, 2010 1:07 PM

    ampats says:
    Dec 2, 2010 11:52 AM
    Hines Ward is the biggest whiner in the NFL.

    Maybe he can cry like he did after the Bettis AFC Championship loss.

    How did that November 17th beatdown of the Patriots work that the Steer toadies were predicting since the summer ?
    ————————————————-
    Congratulations on your biggest win since winning the super bowl, six seasons ago. But you’ve got the Raiders first rounf pick, so “maybe next year”.

  75. raidernation666 says: Dec 2, 2010 1:11 PM

    As Grandpa Simpson says: “BITCH, BITCH. BITCH!!”

  76. Deb says: Dec 2, 2010 1:18 PM

    Florio continues his shortsighted assault on players who don’t appreciate seeing a colleague fined for legal hits. Since we’re not blind, deaf, or stupid, we can see from the film and still photos that the hits on Brees and Fitzpatrick did not involve leading with the helmet or helmet-to-helmet hits. So those fines could not be about concussions or other avoidable injuries.

    What were you like before NBC came into the picture?

  77. comeonnowguys says: Dec 2, 2010 1:22 PM

    “So let me get this straight, the most successful franchise in NFL history needs to shut up about being targeted by the NFL?”

    Thanks for putting this in your first paragraph, homer, and letting me know right away that there was nothing to see here.

    Can we officially give Viking fandom’s title of “Biggest bunch of officiating whiners” to Pittsburgh?

    Terrible Tear-stained Towels.

  78. goodellwearspanties says: Dec 2, 2010 1:33 PM

    It’s funny there are so many Steeler haters on this site, but I never get to see you in public. You supposed “INTERNET THUG STEELER HATER’S “, never say anything when I see you out in public wearing my Steeler’s gear. Your like ghosts or Brown’s fans, I know your there, but you never make your presence known. Please stop hiding and make it known to that Steeler fan sitting next to you at the bar this Sunday, we would love to know that you really existed. In my 28 years I have never had anyone approach me in public and say this kind of stuff to my face, – stop hiding behind a screen, you would never say it to our face if you were standing in front of us, well at least not to me (28 years). GOODELL WEARS PANTIES

  79. bigbeefyd says: Dec 2, 2010 2:29 PM

    @ladybanks:

    Read the damned article! Most of what he said wasn’t true. I am so sick of Steelers fans and their feeling that their team is either entitled to worship or a victim of all of the evil non-Steelers fans out there. Best moment of this NFL season? When Rapistburger got beeyotch-slapped by Richard Seymour and crumpled like a 7 year old ballerina who tripped over her tutu.

  80. steelersmichele says: Dec 2, 2010 2:34 PM

    realitypolice says: Are you denying that sticking your helmet in a QB’s chest is, and has been for several years, against the rules?

    Here is what I’m saying: A lot of people are saying Harrison should change the way he plays, but he won’t and he’s been playing that way for a long time now.

    That “long time” includes when he was named Defensive Player of the Year. So I am curious as to why a few years back he was rewarded for his style of play and all of a sudden he’s being punished for it?

    Or maybe what I should be saying is that the QBs should suck it up and take a hit like a man. If Ben can get hit, sacked and sucker-slapped in the face, then other QBs should be able to take the same kind of abuse.

    I would also love for my team to not talk to the media anymore about this, but if they didn’t, they’d be fined for not making themselves “available” to the media. But apparently the media loves to talk about it and so does everyone on PFT.

  81. officaloffical says: Dec 2, 2010 3:02 PM

    goddlewears panties

    let me know where you will be , ill say anything i have to say to you…

    pansy

  82. goodellwearspanties says: Dec 2, 2010 3:33 PM

    I’ll be in Baltimore for the game chump. I’ll be in the 203 section, I’m a white male, 6ft, 220lbs., wearing a Troy P jersey,Steeler’s hard hat, waving a Terrible towel. See you there punk – what color of dress should I be looking for?

  83. Deb says: Dec 2, 2010 4:23 PM

    @bigbeefyd …

    My my … what a mature, objective post demontrating that you have no personal animosity at all for the Steelers but are expressing a clear understanding of this issue.

    I love my team, but don’t worship it, so I’d hardly expect anyone else to do so. And my gripe with haters is they are so intensely focused on the Steelers that they’re missing the Big Picture: the league’s concerted efforts to neuter the game. James made himself a target with his comments. But if it hadn’t been him, it would have been someone else. Several owners, team execs, and Goodell himself have said outright that their push for an 18-game season will require “changes” in the way the game is played. Those are subtle references to the need to soften hits in a ridiculous effort to help players managed the additional wear and tear without increasing personnel costs. You’d know this if you paid attention to something other than your own pettiness.

    If you’re okay with a daintier NFL, fine. If not, you should speak up like some of the gutsier Ravens, Browns, Bills, Pats, and other NON-Steeler fans are doing … before it’s too late.

  84. Deb says: Dec 2, 2010 4:26 PM

    @raidernation666 …

    Thanks, we know you hate the Steelers. But I always respected the Raiders as a hard-hitting organization. Somehow I just can’t imagine the silver and black in skirts. This isn’t about us. This is about Goodell trying to neuter defenses. Forget Florio–and your Steeler hatred. Guys like you need to start looking at the Big Picture and speaking up before they turn our NFL into a flag league.

  85. easyeddie says: Dec 2, 2010 4:26 PM

    Ever notice how the ones who throw around empty threats on boards like this are always 6-foot something and 200-plus pounds?

  86. officaloffical says: Dec 2, 2010 4:54 PM

    Ill be there I have season tickets

    make sure you have a designated driver

  87. officaloffical says: Dec 2, 2010 4:57 PM

    as for the dress… look for green

    im gonna enjoy this , anit fragged anyone since ’73’

  88. pigspigspigspigs says: Dec 2, 2010 6:30 PM

    It is a shame that James Harrison is going to be remembered as a dirty player. If you look at how his career began and where it is now he is quite the remarkable NFL story. It almost rivals that of Kurt Warner although not as long.

    James Harrison was an undrafted free agent from Kent State. He was also cut so many times by the steelers and ravens he could have bled to death. He did not get a chance to start until he was 29 years old and in his first 3 seasons as a starter he only compiled multiple all pro teams and pro bowls as well as the defensive player of the year award. He should win the defensive mvp this year as well.

    Oh ya, he also is responsible for one of the greatest plays in superbowl history from the 2008 game and was on the roster of the 2005 steeler superbowl team.

    All-Pro Teams
    Year Team Level Voters
    2007 2nd Team All-NFL Associated Press
    2008 1st Team All-NFL Associated Press
    2008 1st Team All-NFL Pro Football Writers
    2008 1st Team All-NFL Sporting News
    2009 2nd Team All-NFL Sporting New

    This is not a player that stepped on the field as a top pick from a top school and was great from the beginning. He was going to be a bus driver if he got cut by the steelers the last time.

    I guess a couple personal fouls will hurt your legacy even if it is comparable to a bible thumping golly gee quarterback that sold groceries.

  89. easyeddie says: Dec 2, 2010 7:51 PM

    So, Harrison’s acolades should exempt him from rule against using one’s helmet as a weapon?

  90. Deb says: Dec 2, 2010 10:00 PM

    easyeddie …

    No one said that. He hasn’t been using his helmet as a weapon, as the still photos and footage clearly shows. Other commentators and and increasing number of players are saying the same thing. This isn’t about Harrison; it’s about the league trying to neuter defenses. If you’re not mature enough to have a serious discussion about a football issue, then just blah blah your Steeler hatred and don’t try to pretend you have the intellectual capacity to do anything else. I’m sure the stretch is painful.

  91. goodellwearspanties says: Dec 3, 2010 8:19 AM

    Official – no wonder your talking smack, your a Ravens season ticket holder, I fully understand your hate now, I hate you just as much as you hate me. I at least respect your hatred, as I enjoy playing you guys, always makes for a great game. As far as needing a DD, that will only be for the beer. Check on the green dress, I haven’t fragged anyone since 03′ – ooorahhhhhhh (I served also). See you Sunday, sir. Easy Eddie – ever notice how people named Eddie probably have little man syndrome.

  92. easyeddie says: Dec 3, 2010 9:43 AM

    Deb, you just accused me of not being “mature enough to have a serious discussion about a football”? Remember your calling me a racist?
    If you had stopped with “No one said that. He hasn’t been using his helmet as a weapon, as the still photos and footage clearly shows. Other commentators and and increasing number of players are saying the same thing. This isn’t about Harrison; it’s about the league trying to neuter defenses,” then we maybe this would be a serious discussion about the issue.
    One othe thing, I doubt you’d even be commenting on this issue if it was about some player on some other team and not about Harrison or the Steelers.

  93. easyeddie says: Dec 3, 2010 9:48 AM

    For the record, I’m 5′, 10″ and 190. I guess that gives me average man syndrome.

  94. maddog111 says: Dec 3, 2010 9:51 AM

    easyeddie says:
    Dec 3, 2010 9:48 AM
    For the record, I’m 5′, 10″ and 190. I guess that gives me average man syndrome.
    ———————————————-
    which translates to 5’8 and 1/2, and 205.

  95. goodellwearspanties says: Dec 3, 2010 9:58 AM

    Easyeddie – well played sir, well played.

  96. easyeddie says: Dec 3, 2010 10:34 AM

    Thanks goodellwearspanties. I appreicate your sense of humor. as well.

    By the way maddog, I speak the truth, but I assure you, I wish the 190 was the 175 of a couple of years ago.

  97. officaloffical says: Dec 3, 2010 10:52 AM

    goodellwearspanties… if you served, then the military is in real trouble.. you have made 3 tactical errors, you gave me a date/time Sunday 8:20 pm , a place, (sec 203) and a description (attire size) even though I think yopur FOS … tactical errors lead to casualties look forward to meeting you learned a few things from Charlie

    ‘i kỹ sẽ đánh bại ass của bạn’

  98. goodellwearspanties says: Dec 3, 2010 11:29 AM

    I was a Marine, we don’t run, we fight, first ones there, last ones to leave, no matter the costs, the place, or how much info the insurgents had, we were there. I will be in section 203, in the gear I mentioned, if you can find me, I would buy you a beer, sir. I have nothing but respect for my fellow veterans. I think the one thing we share the most, is that we both never really knew who “Charlie” was. See you at the M&T for some smash mouth football.

  99. Deb says: Dec 3, 2010 1:41 PM

    @easyeddie …

    Hey, I just get frustrated by the constant snark when we’re trying to discuss something that affects everyone. It’s especially annoying when it comes from people whose writing tells me they’re smart enough to be assets if they’d lend their voices to the issue.

    True, if it didn’t involve the Steelers, it would have taken me longer to recognize what was happening. I’d have probably thought the guy was just a dirty player unless I studied the film. But if you’d been around a while, you’d know I own up when I’m wrong, have taken plenty of crap defending players on rival teams, and have called out my own players for dirty hits (like Harrison for the hit on Massaquoi in the Browns game).

  100. majikbullet says: Dec 4, 2010 4:11 PM

    Deb says:

    But if you’d been around a while, you’d know I own up when I’m wrong,
    =================
    ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!

  101. bcgreg says: Dec 5, 2010 8:25 PM

    If these guys don’t like the league so much, then quit.

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!