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League should take closer look at Alosi phalanx

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The widespread presumption in the wake of Sunday’s tripping incident by Jets strength coach Sal Alosi is that Alosi acted alone, a rogue rah-rah guy who had a little too much Rex Ryan and/or Red Bull before the game.

But look at the video and/or the still image.  Alosi appears to be the first man in phalanx of six sweat-suited soldiers who were lined up like soccer players bracing for a kick.

If Alosi truly opted to throw his knee into the path of Dolphins gunner Nolan Carroll on his own, it possibly didn’t happen because Alosi caught a wild hair but because Alosi and others had been coached by someone to provide an impediment to the gunner.  And that makes whoever decided to put Alosi and others in that way partially responsible for Alosi’s apparent decision to be more active than passive in impeding Carroll’s progress.

For now, we’re not saying whether anyone is or should be responsible beyond Alosi.  But we think that the league should look into whether the Jets routinely deploy the Alosi alignment.

And when Alosi meets with the media today at 2:30 p.m. ET, he fairly should be grilled about why it was that he and five other identically-clad employees were standing foot to foot during an opponents’ punt.

We doubt that it was a coincidence.

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59 Responses to “League should take closer look at Alosi phalanx”
  1. brutus9448 says: Dec 13, 2010 2:21 PM

    It sure looks like they did it on purpose. Cheaters. I hope their season crashes and burns

  2. patsfansince73 says: Dec 13, 2010 2:26 PM

    How about a record and possible jail time? And before any of you say “is this guy nuts?” it’s not a stretch.
    It’s not the first time something like this has happened in a football game. It happens in Pop Warner, high school and even at the college level from time to time. What happens to the offender? More times than not, they are charged with assault. Yes, that is what it was. If this were a fan that ran out and did this, he would have been arrested and charged.
    Firing him would be a blessing compared to that. The man is a criminal both figuratively and literally. There is no place for someone like this in any sport at any level.

  3. Clifford Cartwright says: Dec 13, 2010 2:28 PM

    Wait a minute, Mike. Ok, so the tripping was wrong. But it is the team’s sideline and it’s out of the field of play. Can’t they stand where they want?

  4. dolphindad says: Dec 13, 2010 2:28 PM

    the question is, is this type of alignment commonplace in the NFL, or is this unusual? someone with access needs to go back look at other jets games and see if similiar attempts were made. if so, the jets should be fined, westhoff should be suspended or fired.

    lowclass NJ. even for you.

  5. Big John says: Dec 13, 2010 2:29 PM

    Great commenton NFL.com: “There is no greater ‘foul’ in any area of competitive sports [from Pop Warner or little league to NFL or MLB and the rest] than when the authority figure from head coach to coaching staff engages an opposing player who is ‘in play’ and interferes with the normal play in anyway, shape or form. And to commit such an act that could endanger the livelihood of the athlete and even have a lasting impact on the opposing team is so egregious that immediate expulsion from the team and the NFL is the very least that should be meted out against Alosi. The Jets team should also be penalized for interference in a game as well. Goodell cannot treat this one lightly. [I'm sending off a letter to the league as well...and I implore others to do so as well...this behavior is totally unacceptable.] Goodell has no compunction in levying hard fines and suspensions on players but when coaches commit acts such as Alosi’s, there should no hesitation in the swiftest of punishments. Alosi must go.”

  6. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 13, 2010 2:29 PM

    I thought the same thing. If that first guy didn’t do it, there were at least 3 others there to make a play.

  7. southbeachtalent says: Dec 13, 2010 2:30 PM

    Because they are coached to stand there. What a bunch of idiots, if Nolan would have been pushed or just gets caught up with one of them it could have lead to helmet to head contact. Those a-holes are brain-less.

  8. alltimeballa says: Dec 13, 2010 2:31 PM

    Not only did I notice this as well but the guy two spots to the left of Alosi made an attempt to do further damage to Carroll by dipping his shoulder in but Carroll was already falling so he missed him. This was absolutely premeditated!!!

  9. tnphinsfan says: Dec 13, 2010 2:31 PM

    Wasn’t it stated during the game that Ryan instructed them to stand there? I doubt he told them to pull that stunt, but then again, it is Rex Ryan. I guess you can give them credit for good knee kick, but Phins gave them a punch in the mouth back. Or maybe that was a donkeypunch? Oh well, CABS HERE!

  10. pooflingingmonkey says: Dec 13, 2010 2:32 PM

    A phalanx of no less than 3 and no more than 5!

    Regards,

    The Monarch

  11. der6495 says: Dec 13, 2010 2:32 PM

    Isn’t that Rex Ryan standing right next to the sweat suited soldiers? Interesting.

  12. knowerofallthings says: Dec 13, 2010 2:33 PM

    what a lame conspiracy theory

  13. profootballwalk says: Dec 13, 2010 2:35 PM

    And the league should be looking at the guy standing on the grassy knoll.

  14. bcozthenight says: Dec 13, 2010 2:36 PM

    Ryan gets $500,000 fine, Jets get $250,000 fine, Jets lose first round draft pick.

    Fair is fair. Cheating is cheating. Be consistent.

  15. PFTiswhatitis says: Dec 13, 2010 2:41 PM

    Geez Mike I noticed the same thing and thought it odd but its hard to believe that they were “deployed” into the Alosi alignment as you suggest.

  16. gregjenningsbrokenleg says: Dec 13, 2010 2:41 PM

    How long has this cheating been going on? What kind of advantage has this given the Jets all season? Who knows. If the Jets didn’t suck so bad they would put a * on this season for them as well.

  17. Big John says: Dec 13, 2010 2:43 PM

    definitely have the coach charged with assault like any fan would be and also dock the organization a day 2 draft pick. that’s leading by example.

  18. peytonwantsaflag says: Dec 13, 2010 2:45 PM

    I’m one of those that are calling for Alosi’s firing but this article is ridiculous.

    This “line of soldiers” may very well be there on purpose but so what? they’re allowed to be. Even if they purposely stood there to keep the runner from running out of bounds that’s their right. The problem is not in them standing there it’s the intentional tripping.

  19. 8man says: Dec 13, 2010 2:47 PM

    What’s even more gruesome is the two Jets that seemingly gravitate towards the fallen Dolphin, make sure he’s “finished” and then just run away!

    You can almost hear one say, “Heh, heh. We got him.”

    And the other reply, “Yeah. Let’s scram!”

    But seriously, is it me or was Nolan Carroll out of bounds? I mean there is the field of play(anything not in stands) and then the field of play(the area where plays must occur to legal).

  20. ineptguy6 says: Dec 13, 2010 2:49 PM

    Assuming that these people were coached to stand there, how is that cheating. They are in the designated area where members of the team may stand. If they want to line the entire sideline that falls with in the area they are allowed to stand, they can. It may be cheap or classless, but definitely not cheating or illegal in anyway.

    Alosi on the other hand, actively sought out the contact. That is illegal and way beyond the scope of the game. He should be fired if not worse.

  21. bennybob says: Dec 13, 2010 2:50 PM

    I have no doubt that the Jets would stoop to this kind of tactic on purpose. But why hasn’t anyone brought up the fact that this guy was running a yard and a half out of bounds when he was tripped?

  22. zoxitic says: Dec 13, 2010 2:54 PM

    The mind of a lawyer. Interesting allegation though. Now that I look at it, it does look like an unusual formation for “casual” bystanders. You may have something.

  23. fancyleague says: Dec 13, 2010 2:54 PM

    The league probably had enough of phalanxes after the Favre video.

  24. elgaffo says: Dec 13, 2010 2:54 PM

    as soon as I saw this picture, it looks fishy. Sure they’re “technically” on the sideline but this whole thing is just sad for the Jets. poor everything all around. how petty and small. stay classy

  25. flyinhighwithvick says: Dec 13, 2010 2:56 PM

    Please don’t start referring to this as “Trip-Gate”. There’s nothing more annoying than when some sort of controversy happens, and we have to put the term “gate” on the end of it. So the guy tripped the Dolphins player, fire him and be done with it.

  26. thataintchocolate says: Dec 13, 2010 2:58 PM

    Looks like Carroll voluntarily ran out of bounds on that return. The Steelers were flagged and forced to re-kick when their gunner “voluntarily ran” out of bounds last week. That guy Alosi is a turd but the refs are worse.

  27. ace613 says: Dec 13, 2010 2:58 PM

    Alosi-island?

  28. ampats says: Dec 13, 2010 3:00 PM

    The Jets coaches were protecting the sidelines to prevent anyone from stepping on their paper Lombardi’s.

  29. tdurk34 says: Dec 13, 2010 3:01 PM

    My first reaction to this was, WHAT? But look where the first guy is, at the corner of the team box. The the point he is almost standing right on the line. My guess it is a wall created to get the player behind and have a penelty called for running too far before re-entering the field of play. The jackass took it too far. Minumally should lose sideline access, for good.

  30. jamie54 says: Dec 13, 2010 3:04 PM

    There’s no doubt these clowns were ‘coached’ into standing just off the white outliner with their hands playing pocket pool. No coincidence it happens on a special teams play where players are regularly forced OB and, oh so conveniently, they could complain oops, excuse me for you getting in my way. Jets got caught and the hammer should be swift and fatal for these dbags.

  31. habsman says: Dec 13, 2010 3:05 PM

    So now we know the real reason the Pat’s were filming the Jet’s sideline!

  32. briguy5 says: Dec 13, 2010 3:07 PM

    People who blame the Dolphins player need to grow up. The Dolphins player should have been flagged. You cannot run downfield while out of bounds.

    BUT that is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for taking such a blatently cheap shot at a completely defenseless player, I don’t care how far out of bounds he was. A player running at full speed taking a shot to his knees could end his career. This was not an accidental collision. This was a deliberate act to hit and injure an opponent. And it is looking a lot like it was pre-mediated, not a instinct heat of the moment act.

  33. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Dec 13, 2010 3:07 PM

    Go to the video tape. This is where PFT can earn their money (not that you don’t normally) and find proof, or NOT, that they do this all the time. Look at opponents punts and if that wall is always there, then bam! I’m sure NBC has all the video you could want.

  34. marty2019 says: Dec 13, 2010 3:16 PM

    In addition to fines and suspensions, I think the guy should not be allowed in an NFL stadium for a minimum of 2 years. He can come back to the Jets eventually as their strength coach, but he cannot come into an NFL stadium, even as a spectator.

  35. hevsharpe1 says: Dec 13, 2010 3:20 PM

    Watch the video frame by frame on nfl.com. All of the other staff on the entire Jets sideline are standing another 2-3 yards behind the white line. They are also all looking in the direction of the returner. Look at the frame at :27 seconds and you can see all 6 guys standing at the line are staring straight at Nolan Carroll waiting for him and are not looking at the returner. This absolutely had to be planned by the coaching staff. The NFL needs to investigate more than just Alosi.

  36. Spoonthis says: Dec 13, 2010 3:26 PM

    Maybe the league can call Belichick to see if has has some game film on it.

  37. easyeddie says: Dec 13, 2010 3:27 PM

    Blaming the Dolphin player is some stange faulty logic to say the least. If he did commit an infraction doesn’t change the fact that the f’ing idiot strength coach stuck out his knee to interfere/trip/hurt the gunner . A member of the coaching staff interfering with the game on the field is outright cheating. Wy should he not be suspended indefinitely/fired/banned from the league?

  38. Kaz says: Dec 13, 2010 3:32 PM

    I think it’s a valid question. And disappointing for the JETS. I like Ryan, but it’s just lame to cheat when you are suppose to be that good.

  39. kimcon22000 says: Dec 13, 2010 3:38 PM

    That play was hilarious!
    Funny to no end.
    Some of you need to acquire a sense of humor.
    Maybe for Christmas ………………..

  40. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 13, 2010 3:51 PM

    @ Spoonthis

    How desperate are you to bring up Belichick?

  41. boothisman says: Dec 13, 2010 3:57 PM

    Typical Jets trash ball..

    If Harrison gets 40k for a questionable in-game hit, I can only imagine this guy should get 120k. Right, GODdell?

  42. bbb82 says: Dec 13, 2010 3:58 PM

    What an embarrassment. No surprise though, coming from this team.

  43. PanchoHerreraFanClub says: Dec 13, 2010 4:06 PM

    Of course, Carroll was running out of bounds so he wouldn’t be hit. If the one of the Jets had hit him when he was out of bound that would be unsportsmanlike conduct. A call that should have been made against Alosi (as well as tossing him out of the game). I don’t fault the refs for missing it, but there had been a booth review of it, that should have happened.

  44. billsfan27 says: Dec 13, 2010 4:16 PM

    Another black-eye for a yellow-bellied team.

  45. flapjack1231 says: Dec 13, 2010 4:20 PM

    “8man says: Dec 13, 2010 2:47 PM …. But seriously, is it me or was Nolan Carroll out of bounds? I mean there is the field of play(anything not in stands) and then the field of play(the area where plays must occur to legal).”

    Seriously, how long have you been watching NFL football? It happens every single game. 2 gunners knocked him out of bounds. In order to get back in bounds, how did you expect him to get back there? Fly? Take a cab? You are clueless.

    This looks to be a staged thing the Jets had planned or used before. Their returns were doing jack diddly all day so they may have employed this to try to turn the tides a bit. Regardless, the Jets, their players, coaches & most fans are ignorant. Leave it to them to pull off a stunt like this, staged or if he just got carried away like he says. Either way, typical Jets.

  46. canadianvikingfaniii says: Dec 13, 2010 4:20 PM

    New York Jets have their own Assassins Creed.

  47. ArtModellsPimp says: Dec 13, 2010 4:29 PM

    I think that Carroll intentionally ran out of bounds and tried to take out Alosi’s knee.

    The Miami Dolphins should be fined and lose a draft pick for condoning these illegal hits on helpless lines of coaches.

    Goodell needs to investigate before another “Alosi-gate” occurs.

    Thank you.

  48. rehuntjr says: Dec 13, 2010 4:31 PM

    Wait a minute … Six guys in Jersey wearing polyester track suits and one of ‘em is named Sal?

    Were the other guys named Vinny and Paulie and Vito and Petey and Christophuh? Are we sure HBO wasn’t filming a new Sopranos episode?

  49. patriotsworld says: Dec 13, 2010 4:33 PM

    Want to get these clowns away from the plays? Let a player take a “swing” out of bounds and do a little contact football with them.
    Looks like the jets got caught with their panfs down. The truth is I always thought there is an awful lot of people standing around the sidelines at every game. The NFL should clean the sidelines up. I mean really. What is a strength coach doing 2 yards from the playing field?

  50. cletusvandam says: Dec 13, 2010 4:36 PM

    Watching the replay yesterday I noticed that none of these guys moved to even try and get out of the way. Trying to move out of harms way is a normal persons first reaction! I think there is more here, but I doubt the league wants light shed on it so it will fine this dirtball and quickly move on NFL =WWF.
    The dirtbag that threw the knee should be fired. The rest of the morons in the line should be suspended and Rex Ryan should be fined, suspended, and forced to diet

  51. kimcon22000 says: Dec 13, 2010 4:44 PM

    The Almighty Goodall should make this legal in the league. You get too close to the sidelines and the other team’s staff may try to impede your forward progress with any appendage of the body.
    A takedown would constitute a loss of down ……….

  52. max says: Dec 13, 2010 4:50 PM

    Great commenton NFL.com: “There is no greater ‘foul’ in any area of competitive sports [from Pop Warner or little league to NFL or MLB and the rest] than when the authority figure from head coach to coaching staff engages an opposing player who is ‘in play’ and interferes with the normal play in anyway, shape or form. And to commit such an act that could endanger the livelihood of the athlete and even have a lasting impact on the opposing team is so egregious that immediate expulsion from the team and the NFL is the very least that should be meted out against Alosi. The Jets team should also be penalized for interference in a game as well. Goodell cannot treat this one lightly. [I'm sending off a letter to the league as well...and I implore others to do so as well...this behavior is totally unacceptable.] Goodell has no compunction in levying hard fines and suspensions on players but when coaches commit acts such as Alosi’s, there should no hesitation in the swiftest of punishments. Alosi must go.”

    ——

    QFT

    That post says it all.

  53. highfivefootballfan says: Dec 13, 2010 5:00 PM

    there’s obviously more than meets the eye here. Carroll was run out of bounds by two Jets, right into this “line of guidos” where Alosi clocked him with his knee.
    Like someone else pointed out, none of those guys make ANY kind of attempt ot move out of the way as Carroll is coming towards them. In fact, you can see them kind of bracing for an impact as he gets closer, right before the knee gets dropped.
    it sure does LOOK like something that was staged. The only thing I can’t figure out is why???
    The Dolphins special teams coverage is bad enough as it is…

  54. dvnelson72 says: Dec 13, 2010 5:03 PM

    I’ve never sat down and read the NFL rule book.

    Maybe someone can enlighten me.

    When a player goes out of bounds, regardless of the reason, is there a rule that dictates people on the sideline should make a reasonable effort to get out of the way, or at the least not harm the player?

    It seems to me we see running backs and wide receivers pushed out constantly. I can’t remember a player on the sideline (or coach) “bracing himself” to put a hit on the guy being pushed out. Surely it wouldn’t matter if he is outside of the white stripe.

    If a player or coach gave a forearm and laid down someone pushed out of bounds, I am willing to bet it would be an unsportsmanlike conduct. My guess would be that it would be treated like throwing a punch. You’re out.

    My point is, these guys were looking at the gunner who was pushed out of bounds. They had their tippy toes right against that white line. They didn’t try to move away at all.

    At a minimum, they were there to try and influence the gunner or have him collide with them “inadvertently”. Otherwise, they would have stepped back like any normal coach or sideline player.

  55. dvnelson72 says: Dec 13, 2010 5:06 PM

    I just watched it again. The guy next to Sally the Knee dipped his shoulder toward Carroll expecting contact.

  56. laxer37 says: Dec 13, 2010 5:09 PM

    Sorry, stopped reading after I saw the word soccer.

  57. bluvayner says: Dec 13, 2010 5:16 PM

    Imagine….. the staff actually standing on the sideline dressed in identical raingear! The horror!

    Lets see…..the bench area runs from the 30 to the 30 meaning a total of 40 yards.

    There are 53 players on a team but only 46 dress, meaning that 7 aren’t in uniform and are wearing sideline gear. Then you have 8 practice squad players who also aren’t in uniform. Plus any players who are on injured reserve which probably adds another 8 guys. Then you have all of the trainers, equipment guys, ballboys, doctors, and assistant coaches adding, what? ……another 30 people? More? Then of course you have the referees, plus the guys holding the down markers and chains.

    So….you have probably end up with 50 or 60 people …NOT COUNTING THE PLAYERS…. standing on the sideline in an area 40 yards long, and they’re all wearing team clothing. Yet you’re shocked that on a rainy day there are half a dozen people standing a yard apart wearing raingear????

  58. roynp3 says: Dec 13, 2010 6:46 PM

    Worse than Spygate!

  59. juancorsair says: Dec 13, 2010 10:47 PM

    We doubt that it was a coincidence.

    Yeah… You and Jesse Ventura.

    What next? Are you going to claim it was part of the Illuminati’s Grand Conspiracy as well?

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