Comments on: League should take closer look at Alosi phalanx

By: juancorsair

juancorsair — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 03:47:40 +0000

We doubt that it was a coincidence.

Yeah… You and Jesse Ventura.

What next? Are you going to claim it was part of the Illuminati’s Grand Conspiracy as well?

By: roynp3

roynp3 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 23:46:45 +0000

Worse than Spygate!

By: bluvayner

bluvayner — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 22:16:49 +0000

Imagine….. the staff actually standing on the sideline dressed in identical raingear! The horror!

Lets see…..the bench area runs from the 30 to the 30 meaning a total of 40 yards.

There are 53 players on a team but only 46 dress, meaning that 7 aren’t in uniform and are wearing sideline gear. Then you have 8 practice squad players who also aren’t in uniform. Plus any players who are on injured reserve which probably adds another 8 guys. Then you have all of the trainers, equipment guys, ballboys, doctors, and assistant coaches adding, what? ……another 30 people? More? Then of course you have the referees, plus the guys holding the down markers and chains.

So….you have probably end up with 50 or 60 people …NOT COUNTING THE PLAYERS…. standing on the sideline in an area 40 yards long, and they’re all wearing team clothing. Yet you’re shocked that on a rainy day there are half a dozen people standing a yard apart wearing raingear????

By: laxer37

laxer37 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 22:09:45 +0000

Sorry, stopped reading after I saw the word soccer.

By: dvnelson72

dvnelson72 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 22:06:57 +0000

I just watched it again. The guy next to Sally the Knee dipped his shoulder toward Carroll expecting contact.

By: dvnelson72

dvnelson72 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 22:03:09 +0000

I’ve never sat down and read the NFL rule book.

Maybe someone can enlighten me.

When a player goes out of bounds, regardless of the reason, is there a rule that dictates people on the sideline should make a reasonable effort to get out of the way, or at the least not harm the player?

It seems to me we see running backs and wide receivers pushed out constantly. I can’t remember a player on the sideline (or coach) “bracing himself” to put a hit on the guy being pushed out. Surely it wouldn’t matter if he is outside of the white stripe.

If a player or coach gave a forearm and laid down someone pushed out of bounds, I am willing to bet it would be an unsportsmanlike conduct. My guess would be that it would be treated like throwing a punch. You’re out.

My point is, these guys were looking at the gunner who was pushed out of bounds. They had their tippy toes right against that white line. They didn’t try to move away at all.

At a minimum, they were there to try and influence the gunner or have him collide with them “inadvertently”. Otherwise, they would have stepped back like any normal coach or sideline player.

By: highfivefootballfan

highfivefootballfan — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 22:00:34 +0000

there’s obviously more than meets the eye here. Carroll was run out of bounds by two Jets, right into this “line of guidos” where Alosi clocked him with his knee.
Like someone else pointed out, none of those guys make ANY kind of attempt ot move out of the way as Carroll is coming towards them. In fact, you can see them kind of bracing for an impact as he gets closer, right before the knee gets dropped.
it sure does LOOK like something that was staged. The only thing I can’t figure out is why???
The Dolphins special teams coverage is bad enough as it is…

By: max

max — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:50:18 +0000

Great commenton NFL.com: “There is no greater ‘foul’ in any area of competitive sports [from Pop Warner or little league to NFL or MLB and the rest] than when the authority figure from head coach to coaching staff engages an opposing player who is ‘in play’ and interferes with the normal play in anyway, shape or form. And to commit such an act that could endanger the livelihood of the athlete and even have a lasting impact on the opposing team is so egregious that immediate expulsion from the team and the NFL is the very least that should be meted out against Alosi. The Jets team should also be penalized for interference in a game as well. Goodell cannot treat this one lightly. [I'm sending off a letter to the league as well...and I implore others to do so as well...this behavior is totally unacceptable.] Goodell has no compunction in levying hard fines and suspensions on players but when coaches commit acts such as Alosi’s, there should no hesitation in the swiftest of punishments. Alosi must go.”

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QFT

That post says it all.

By: kimcon22000

kimcon22000 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:44:55 +0000

The Almighty Goodall should make this legal in the league. You get too close to the sidelines and the other team’s staff may try to impede your forward progress with any appendage of the body.
A takedown would constitute a loss of down ……….

By: cletusvandam

cletusvandam — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:36:21 +0000

Watching the replay yesterday I noticed that none of these guys moved to even try and get out of the way. Trying to move out of harms way is a normal persons first reaction! I think there is more here, but I doubt the league wants light shed on it so it will fine this dirtball and quickly move on NFL =WWF.
The dirtbag that threw the knee should be fired. The rest of the morons in the line should be suspended and Rex Ryan should be fined, suspended, and forced to diet

By: patriotsworld

patriotsworld — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:33:22 +0000

Want to get these clowns away from the plays? Let a player take a “swing” out of bounds and do a little contact football with them.
Looks like the jets got caught with their panfs down. The truth is I always thought there is an awful lot of people standing around the sidelines at every game. The NFL should clean the sidelines up. I mean really. What is a strength coach doing 2 yards from the playing field?

By: rehuntjr

rehuntjr — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:31:32 +0000

Wait a minute … Six guys in Jersey wearing polyester track suits and one of ‘em is named Sal?

Were the other guys named Vinny and Paulie and Vito and Petey and Christophuh? Are we sure HBO wasn’t filming a new Sopranos episode?

By: ArtModellsPimp

ArtModellsPimp — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:29:12 +0000

I think that Carroll intentionally ran out of bounds and tried to take out Alosi’s knee.

The Miami Dolphins should be fined and lose a draft pick for condoning these illegal hits on helpless lines of coaches.

Goodell needs to investigate before another “Alosi-gate” occurs.

Thank you.

By: canadianvikingfaniii

canadianvikingfaniii — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:20:37 +0000

New York Jets have their own Assassins Creed.

By: flapjack1231

flapjack1231 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:20:03 +0000

“8man says: Dec 13, 2010 2:47 PM …. But seriously, is it me or was Nolan Carroll out of bounds? I mean there is the field of play(anything not in stands) and then the field of play(the area where plays must occur to legal).”

Seriously, how long have you been watching NFL football? It happens every single game. 2 gunners knocked him out of bounds. In order to get back in bounds, how did you expect him to get back there? Fly? Take a cab? You are clueless.

This looks to be a staged thing the Jets had planned or used before. Their returns were doing jack diddly all day so they may have employed this to try to turn the tides a bit. Regardless, the Jets, their players, coaches & most fans are ignorant. Leave it to them to pull off a stunt like this, staged or if he just got carried away like he says. Either way, typical Jets.

By: billsfan27

billsfan27 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:16:28 +0000

Another black-eye for a yellow-bellied team.

By: PanchoHerreraFanClub

PanchoHerreraFanClub — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:06:51 +0000

Of course, Carroll was running out of bounds so he wouldn’t be hit. If the one of the Jets had hit him when he was out of bound that would be unsportsmanlike conduct. A call that should have been made against Alosi (as well as tossing him out of the game). I don’t fault the refs for missing it, but there had been a booth review of it, that should have happened.

By: bbb82

bbb82 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:58:20 +0000

What an embarrassment. No surprise though, coming from this team.

By: boothisman

boothisman — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:57:57 +0000

Typical Jets trash ball..

If Harrison gets 40k for a questionable in-game hit, I can only imagine this guy should get 120k. Right, GODdell?

By: tiffpats4eva

tiffpats4eva — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:51:11 +0000

@ Spoonthis

How desperate are you to bring up Belichick?

By: kimcon22000

kimcon22000 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:38:17 +0000

That play was hilarious!
Funny to no end.
Some of you need to acquire a sense of humor.
Maybe for Christmas ………………..

By: Kaz

Kaz — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:32:40 +0000

I think it’s a valid question. And disappointing for the JETS. I like Ryan, but it’s just lame to cheat when you are suppose to be that good.

By: easyeddie

easyeddie — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:27:39 +0000

Blaming the Dolphin player is some stange faulty logic to say the least. If he did commit an infraction doesn’t change the fact that the f’ing idiot strength coach stuck out his knee to interfere/trip/hurt the gunner . A member of the coaching staff interfering with the game on the field is outright cheating. Wy should he not be suspended indefinitely/fired/banned from the league?

By: Spoonthis

Spoonthis — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:26:38 +0000

Maybe the league can call Belichick to see if has has some game film on it.

By: hevsharpe1

hevsharpe1 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:20:59 +0000

Watch the video frame by frame on nfl.com. All of the other staff on the entire Jets sideline are standing another 2-3 yards behind the white line. They are also all looking in the direction of the returner. Look at the frame at :27 seconds and you can see all 6 guys standing at the line are staring straight at Nolan Carroll waiting for him and are not looking at the returner. This absolutely had to be planned by the coaching staff. The NFL needs to investigate more than just Alosi.

By: marty2019

marty2019 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:16:38 +0000

In addition to fines and suspensions, I think the guy should not be allowed in an NFL stadium for a minimum of 2 years. He can come back to the Jets eventually as their strength coach, but he cannot come into an NFL stadium, even as a spectator.

By: thereisalwaysnextyear

thereisalwaysnextyear — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:07:39 +0000

Go to the video tape. This is where PFT can earn their money (not that you don’t normally) and find proof, or NOT, that they do this all the time. Look at opponents punts and if that wall is always there, then bam! I’m sure NBC has all the video you could want.

By: briguy5

briguy5 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:07:12 +0000

People who blame the Dolphins player need to grow up. The Dolphins player should have been flagged. You cannot run downfield while out of bounds.

BUT that is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for taking such a blatently cheap shot at a completely defenseless player, I don’t care how far out of bounds he was. A player running at full speed taking a shot to his knees could end his career. This was not an accidental collision. This was a deliberate act to hit and injure an opponent. And it is looking a lot like it was pre-mediated, not a instinct heat of the moment act.

By: habsman

habsman — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:05:48 +0000

So now we know the real reason the Pat’s were filming the Jet’s sideline!

By: jamie54

jamie54 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:04:53 +0000

There’s no doubt these clowns were ‘coached’ into standing just off the white outliner with their hands playing pocket pool. No coincidence it happens on a special teams play where players are regularly forced OB and, oh so conveniently, they could complain oops, excuse me for you getting in my way. Jets got caught and the hammer should be swift and fatal for these dbags.