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Kraft sees “karma and chemistry” in 2010 Patriots

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In a span of six days, the New England Patriots outscored 81-10 two teams with combined records of 18-5.

And so it’s suddenly 2007 all over again in New England, without the pressure of remaining unbeaten and with a quick-strike offense that allows quarterback Tom Brady to get rid of the ball before a withering pass rush can rattle him.

Among those noticing the vibe coming from the 2010 Patriots is owner Robert Kraft, who spoke with reporters at the Patriots Charitable Foundation’s 18th annual community holiday party.

‘There’s a karma and a chemistry with this team that’s pretty special,” Kraft said, per Karen Guregian of the Boston Herald.  “You can feel it when you walk in the locker room.  Both before the game, and after the game.  What’s evolved over the last 7 or 8 games, there’s a sense of confidence.  These guys, the locker room is a very positive atmosphere.

“It’s a nuance that’s hard to understand if you don’t see it all the time.  It’s sort of like walking through a factory and you can see whether the morale of the workers is positive or not.  It’s a very upbeat kind of feeling.  There’s a camaraderie.  You see how new people come in, and they can integrate very quickly into the system because it’s so inviting.”

Asked whether that sense was absent in 2009, Kraft said, “I think so yes, from my point of view.  It wasn’t the same last year.”

In our view, the Patriots have managed to assemble on offense a collection of unselfish players who don’t lobby for the ball, but who trust Tom Brady to deliver the pig to whoever is open.  The presence of Randy Moss, who shot his hand into the air calling for the ball on almost every play and who would sulk and mope if not involved early and often in the game plan, prevented that feeling from fully taking root.

With Moss gone, Wes Welker and Deion Branch and Brandon Tate and Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez and Alge Crumpler and Julian Edelman and BenJarvus Green-Ellis and Danny Woodhead and Fred Taylor wait their turn, patiently but eagerly.  More often than not, when their number is called, they respond.

And so the Patriots are rolling.  And there seems to be no stopping them.  The fact that it seemed that way three years ago and they ultimately failed will serve only to strengthen their resolve once the playoffs commence.

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69 Responses to “Kraft sees “karma and chemistry” in 2010 Patriots”
  1. giablommi says: Dec 14, 2010 10:59 PM

    Karma. Haven’t heard that term thrown around regarding the Patriots in a while.

    Karma, haters.

  2. nyjalleffingday says: Dec 14, 2010 11:04 PM

    Awesome, perhaps I’ll get to watch them choke away another Super Bowl?

  3. bjtodd says: Dec 14, 2010 11:08 PM

    It’s a beautiful thing

  4. polegojim says: Dec 14, 2010 11:11 PM

    The Pats are a team of hard workers, period.
    That’s something Moss and many others will never grasp, and is why they’re gone.

    I appreciate Mikes comments about the current receiver corp…unselfish…eagerly wait their turn… and THEN RESPOND.

    It’s a great team to watch, and should silence the serious and informed critics and nay-sayers.

  5. tb4mvp says: Dec 14, 2010 11:11 PM

    I am so excited 4 the Patriots this year and a little bit scared. They are playing so good right now.

  6. vahawker says: Dec 14, 2010 11:14 PM

    Any coincidence that it all started when Moss was dumped?

  7. paintman34 says: Dec 14, 2010 11:28 PM

    im suprised that julian edelman isnt more involved in the offense

  8. profootballwalk says: Dec 14, 2010 11:30 PM

    A lot of the guys playing on this team weren’t even on the team in 2007 – I doubt they care about what happened that year.

    Two linemen, two linebackers two of three safeties, two cornerbacks, one running back, all three tight ends, and one of the two main wide receivers weren’t with the team then. Other than Brady and the O-line, between injuries and reloading, Belichick has already reloaded since 2007. And that team had very different personnel from the 2001, 2003 and 2004 Super Bowl teams.

    That’s why people will remember Bill Belichick as one of the very best sports coaches and minds in the history of American sport. Like it or not. He can beat yours with his, and he can beat his with yours. In today’s NFL, he has no peers – none at all. There’s Paul Brown, Lombardi, Bill Walsh, and Belichick. Throw in Red Auerbach and Phil Jackson, and that’s it in American pro sports.

  9. acerobc says: Dec 14, 2010 11:42 PM

    is cheating involved in karma?

  10. habsman says: Dec 14, 2010 11:45 PM

    Don’t forget they removed a cancer from the defense as well in Adalius Thomas.

    But the best is how Rexy got played by Belicheck. Ryan is quoted as saying he built his defense to beat the Patriots. Too bad he wasn’t paying attention to what the Pats were doing. The Pats offense isnt based on the deep threat with Moss anymore. So now, the Jets have tied up $18 mil/year for a player who will have little or no impact on games between these two for years to come. I’m convinced Belicheck waited until the Jets broke the bank with Revis before exploring trade options for Moss.

  11. db105 says: Dec 15, 2010 12:02 AM

    nyjalleffingday says:
    Dec 14, 2010 11:04 PM
    Awesome, perhaps I’ll get to watch them choke away another Super Bowl?

    At least they go to Super Bowls. Let me guess. You’re one of those simple minds that think the losing team of a Super Bowl is worse than the other 30 teams.

  12. viper21 says: Dec 15, 2010 12:20 AM

    I think the Patriots will win the Super Bowl this year.

    I think it is amazing how they have, for the most part… been under the radar for most of the season. I know they get some mention but really… they havnt been the story of the NFL this year. They been quietly putting people away lately. I think they are starting to get noticed now but…. barring injury.. they will be tough to beat in January, or February.

    profootballwalk: Great post. I agree totally. However, you did leave out one football coach who belongs in that group of great football coaches…. Tom Landry.

  13. rectumnearlykilledem says: Dec 15, 2010 12:26 AM

    Better them than Rex Ryacheat.

  14. FinFan68 says: Dec 15, 2010 12:26 AM

    Like them or not, this team has been making good decisions for a very long time. Getting rid of Moss was the smartest decision this year. Much respect for Brady, Belichick, and their owners. These guys do things the right way and it spreads throughout the entire team. (get over the cheating crap…they were the example but not the anomally) When somebody starts getting an attitude, they usually find the door (Mankins is likely an exception) Every year they have a bunch of draft picks…it’s sad when a rebuilding year still allows for a div championship,. The defense is not as strong past years but it is getting good quick.

  15. murraysons says: Dec 15, 2010 12:30 AM

    some jet fans would rather hate on the pats than face facts, that the wheels have come off and the jets are toast. njalleffinday wants to see the pats in the Super bowl more than his own team, which is a great example of jet fans

  16. bennybob says: Dec 15, 2010 12:31 AM

    If they’re truly depending on karma, they’re f$%^ked.

  17. jameswestphal says: Dec 15, 2010 12:48 AM

    nyjalleffingday says:
    Dec 14, 2010 11:04 PM
    Awesome, perhaps I’ll get to watch them choke away another Super Bowl?
    ————————————————————————
    Maybe, because you sure as sh*t won’t see the Jets win a Super Bowl. Okay, back to work, those Big Macs won’t flip themselves.

  18. nyjalleffingday says: Dec 15, 2010 12:56 AM

    @db105

    Nope, I’m one of those guys who troll the REAL simple minds with relative ease. The Pats are the best team in the NFL, no doubt. Nobody ever said their fans were smart, though.

  19. richm2256 says: Dec 15, 2010 1:01 AM

    nyjalleffingday says:
    Awesome, perhaps I’ll get to watch them choke away another Super Bowl?
    ————————————————-
    You moronic Yets fans only wish your team could MAKE IT to the Super Bowl to choke.

    And if by choking, you mean losing just one out of four Super Bowls beacuse of one incredible off-the-helmet catch, then yeah, I’ll take that.

    I hope all Jets fans aren’t as stupid as this guy.

    By the way, count me among the people who had no idea that Deion Branch had that much left in the tank. Who the hell in Seattle decided how to use this guy????

  20. hairpie says: Dec 15, 2010 1:01 AM

    this is a pretty sweet rebuilding year. just wait till the rookies mature and we can build a pass rush with the draft next year. 2 in the 1st, 2 in the 2nd, 2 in the 3rd. 6 picks in the first 3 rounds, 3 picks in the first 33. el oh el.

  21. david7590 says: Dec 15, 2010 3:07 AM

    So karma is going to catch up to them. I wouldn’t want to be them.

  22. stanklepoot says: Dec 15, 2010 3:22 AM

    #
    nyjalleffingday says: Dec 14, 2010 11:04 PM

    Awesome, perhaps I’ll get to watch them choke away another Super Bowl?
    ___________________________
    I doubt it. I may be an Eagles fan, but the Pats just look amazing right now. Better yet (for them), this new offense seems to fix the wholes that led to that SB loss. The 2007 Pats was too dependent on big plays, and when the Giants pass rush kicked in, it seriously messed with their ability to move the ball. This new offense may not be pass rush proof, but it certainly seems pass rush resistant. Rather than holding the ball to allow plays to develop all the time, the goal is typically to get the ball in play quickly. Sure, they still do some longer developing plays, but the frequency of the quicker plays forces opposing defenses to adjust their tactics, which makes it more likely that they’ll have that extra time when they want it. This offense also appears to be the answer to Belichick’s own defensive philosophy of focusing on taking away the opponent’s most important offensive weapon. You can take away any Patriot receiver you want, and this offense will hardly notice it.

  23. CKL says: Dec 15, 2010 3:38 AM

    ^^^^^
    It’s ok DB105…this Pats fan loves salty Jetfan tears. It takes a special kind of fan to take a swipe at the Pats for losing SB 42 when their own team just got debacled by the Pats 45-3 and they haven’t been to a SB since around the time a man first set foot on the moon.

    I would rather have a team with great chemistry and decent/good talent than poor chemistry and brilliant talent. Last year’s Pats were a huge disappointment because they were the first BB team that got worse as the year went on (07 they did slightly but it wasn’t as big of a dropoff) and part of that was poor chemistry. All of those guys are now gone.

  24. 8man says: Dec 15, 2010 4:50 AM

    nyjalleffingday says:
    Dec 14, 2010 11:04 PM
    Awesome, perhaps I’ll get to watch them choke away another Super Bowl?
    ———————————————–
    Envious?

    acerobc says:
    Dec 14, 2010 11:42 PM
    is cheating involved in karma?
    ———————————————-
    Double dose of envy. Double dose.

  25. 8man says: Dec 15, 2010 4:52 AM

    And all of this being said, they have three games left to determine when and where they play next. And maybe three games after that.

    Let’s just see how it goes before we start handing out titles.

    Go Patriots!

  26. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 15, 2010 5:31 AM

    Eat it, haters. Eat it! Love it! Live with it!

    Heh!

  27. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 15, 2010 5:32 AM

    @ nyjalleffingday,

    May I interest you in a dictionary, so that you can look up “choke”?

  28. responsiblechild says: Dec 15, 2010 6:17 AM

    Should Kraft really be using the word “Chemistry”….

  29. Keyser Söze says: Dec 15, 2010 6:19 AM

    acerobc says:
    Dec 14, 2010 11:42 PM
    is cheating involved in karma?****************************
    Yes

  30. drew42301 says: Dec 15, 2010 6:38 AM

    and cameras!

  31. slutnuts says: Dec 15, 2010 7:06 AM

    as a bills fan i hate the pats. i have to, its the rules.
    as a football fan i enjoy watching this team. and as someone who, again has no rooting interest (besides gambling) in the playoffs, this team will definitely entertain.

  32. dirtdawg55 says: Dec 15, 2010 7:12 AM

    Pats deserve a lot of attention right now as they are clearly the class of the league. But champions don’t get anointed in training camp or Week 14. There will be only one and there is no guarantee the Pats will be it. That defense is still vulnerable and bitter tastes from wasted past opportunities guarantee nothing other than the taste lingers there forever.

    If the bitter taste of defeat was enough to win Super Bowls the Cowboys would have won another in recent years, the Titans would have come back to win one and even the Bengals might have a case.

    Besides Pats fans, how does Kraft get a let for saying pretty much the same thing as Rex Ryan, albeit a little less profanely, obscenely and often (and less fat for that matter)? The Pats have won nothing yet. They look good now, but that counts for nothing as all of you are painfully aware.

  33. eddyjf says: Dec 15, 2010 7:14 AM

    acerobc says:
    Dec 14, 2010 11:42 PM
    is cheating involved in karma?

    ———————–

    My guess is that you post a ‘cheating’ comment everytime you see the Patriots.

    Give it a rest and go back into your hole. If you don’t have anything intelligent to say, which you don’t, stay there. This happened 3 years ago and they were penalized and moved on.

  34. iluvwikileaks says: Dec 15, 2010 7:28 AM

    You mean, “karma and cheating”, don’t you?

  35. joetoronto says: Dec 15, 2010 7:29 AM

    The coaching job that has been done this year in NE is nothing short of amazing, like it or not.

    They’re not a team full of super stars, but they are truly a TEAM.

    The only real question that remains for me is if this team can win in the playoffs, against very talented teams with big running games.

    We shall see.

  36. jackazz1 says: Dec 15, 2010 7:41 AM

    wait a minute rex said the jets are going to the superbowl

  37. 1historian says: Dec 15, 2010 8:06 AM

    acerobc and all you other haters out there –

    GET SOME NEW MATERIAL

    Some history for you – assuming of course that you can read.

    The Patriots were caught stealing defensive signals in the 1st half of the 1st game of the 2007 season. They were told to stop, they did. Would it not follow (sorry to use big words!) that the league would keep an EXTRA SHARP EYE on them after that? Of course it would.

    Any complaints since then? (Note – everybody knows! is unacceptable)

    None

    Record since then? 49-15 – a little over 76.5%

    w/Brady? 38-10 – 79%.

    They lost their 1st round choice in the 2008 draft, but since they already had choice #7 from a previous trade they dropped down to #10, getting an extra 2nd rounder in 2009, and proceeded to draft Jerrod Mayo, who became the defensive rookie of the year. Smart move? Ya think?

    They have 22 1st or 2nd round players on the 53 man squad, they have 7 choices in the 1st 4 rounds of next year’s draft, they have the best record in the NFL, they are giving up 11 ppg in the last 3 while averaging 42,

    IOW – they’re pretty good and it shows no sign of letting up

    so

    get used to it

  38. zombiepatriot says: Dec 15, 2010 8:08 AM

    Patriots fan… just ignore the fools who keep spouting about ‘cheating’. They obviously don’t know what they are talking about so why waste your time?

    Most people know little about the sport and they zero in on a small thing and parrot it for years. My favourite moment this year was being told how old the Patriots defence was and at that point how could I argue? The guy was obviously a moron who does not really follow the game but he remembers from the past how the talking heads would state they were old over and over…

    That also gets me to the whole ‘poor defence’ they keep stating about the Patriots. I haven’t taken the time but I really do wonder where they rank in the past four / five games as I really doubt it is last in the league. It seems to me that is part of the problem with cumulative statistics and it also shows how lazy the talking heads are… still if they want to call them a bad defence and the worst in the league that is fine with me as long as the W’s keep coming.

  39. 1historian says: Dec 15, 2010 8:13 AM

    Some of you really hate my Patriots, which is your problem, not mine.

    Part of the fun of being a fan, especially an old fart fan like moi is the simple fact that when they are on a roll (in this case on a 10 year roll!) you get to be loud, arrogant and obnoxious. This is OUR time and for the most part we try to be polite. But when these absurd ‘cheating’ accusations keep popping up we come to the defense of our heroes.

    Could it be that that is the only thing they have to say?

    Could it be anything else?

    One thing I don’t like about the team is that the owner, Robert Kraft, thinks that it is cool if he has Donald Krump as a guest in the luxury box.

    That s…s

    FYI – I watched ‘The Greatest Game Ever’ on TV.

  40. blackglass3 says: Dec 15, 2010 8:13 AM

    nyjalleffingday says:
    Dec 14, 2010 11:04 PM
    Awesome, perhaps I’ll get to watch them choke away another Super Bowl?

    Perhaps I’ll get to see the Jets do that one day. No, wait, the Jets are October champions, not February ones. They couldn’t make the Super Bowl no matter how many goddamn snacks Rex shoves in his fat mouth.

  41. 1historian says: Dec 15, 2010 8:24 AM

    dirtdawg55 – Good post, good points.

    The defense is young, but they are getting older fast. Since they lost to Cleveland (best thing that could have happened to them IMO) they have won 5 straight, given up 17.6 ppg. Last 4 games – 15 ppg. Last 3 – 11.3 ppg.m Last 2 – 5 ppg. And 7 on Sunday.

    BUT – They ain’t won nothin’ yet and you can bet B&B remind them of that every day.

    with all the picks they have in next year’s draft I would not be surprised to see Larry Fitzgerald in Foxboro next year.

    Bills fans – you guys have class and so does your team.

    jets fans – thanks for the laughs and keep ‘em coming!

    p.s. – classy move on Sunday – that tackle.

  42. mistrezzrachael says: Dec 15, 2010 8:25 AM

    Teams like the Ravens, jets, Bengals, Vikings..underachievers for their levels of talent…have alot to learn from watching NE.

    Am amazed that they have so many rookies playing…and still winning the way they are.

    Blowout over jets however…was the icing on the cake. To shut those bastards up…as well as their fans….did the rest of NFL a great justice.

    Even today…jets haven’t gotten over mental beating NE gave them…and they may not win again….Thats how Belichick & Brady pay people back.

    Notice they didn’t run it up vs Bears????….They have no vendetta vs Lovie….unlike Rex’ mouth.

  43. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 15, 2010 8:32 AM

    dirtdawg55 says: Dec 15, 2010 7:12 AM
    “Besides Pats fans, how does Kraft get a let for saying pretty much the same thing as Rex Ryan, albeit a little less profanely, obscenely and often (and less fat for that matter)? The Pats have won nothing yet. They look good now, but that counts for nothing as all of you are painfully aware.”
    **************************

    Are you serious, dude?

    Bob Kraft didn’t say anything remotely close to what Rex Ryan said. Actually, proclaiming that you are SB bound after not winning anything for over 40 years, promising a championship in the preseason, and backing into the playoffs the previous, isn’t the same as a team owner in week 14, after the team has clinched a playoff spot, saying that the team is successful because the atmosphere has improved.

    Patriot detractors will fabricate reasons to attack the Pats. We understand it and we appreciate it. Don’t worry about the Pats so-called vulnerable defense. That’s what we have Belichick for.

  44. semperfi24 says: Dec 15, 2010 8:43 AM

    #
    joetoronto says: Dec 15, 2010 7:29 AM

    The coaching job that has been done this year in NE is nothing short of amazing, like it or not.

    They’re not a team full of super stars, but they are truly a TEAM.

    The only real question that remains for me is if this team can win in the playoffs, against very talented teams with big running games.

    We shall see.
    __________________________________

    Havent they been doing that already? The Jets are 6 in the NFL in rushing, and Pittsburgh is 10 in the league. They didnt seem to have a problem with those teams…. The easiest way to stop the other team from running the ball, is to go on long drives resulting in TD’s. The Pats do that very well. When you are down 14+ points, you dont run it as often. I dont think stopping the run is going to be a big factor for NE in the post season

  45. all4patriots says: Dec 15, 2010 8:44 AM

    Karma = outworking your opponent in game preparations from Monday through Saturday and then not making mistakes on Sunday

  46. tiffpats4eva says: Dec 15, 2010 8:46 AM

    jackazz1 says: Dec 15, 2010 7:41 AM
    “wait a minute rex said the jets are going to the superbowl”
    *************

    Can you please post the comment in which Bob Kraft states the Pats are going to the Super Bowl?

  47. abninf says: Dec 15, 2010 9:19 AM

    “And so it’s suddenly 2007 all over again in New England”

    So that means no superbowl win.

  48. 3octaveFart says: Dec 15, 2010 9:28 AM

    Losing to the Giants in SB XLII, now that was karma.

  49. 3octaveFart says: Dec 15, 2010 9:32 AM

    No question they’re good this year.
    Maybe too good.

    Kinda makes you wonder how they’re cheating this year doesn’t it?

  50. joetoronto says: Dec 15, 2010 9:34 AM

    #
    semperfi24 says: Dec 15, 2010 8:43 AM

    #
    joetoronto says: Dec 15, 2010 7:29 AM

    The coaching job that has been done this year in NE is nothing short of amazing, like it or not.

    They’re not a team full of super stars, but they are truly a TEAM.

    The only real question that remains for me is if this team can win in the playoffs, against very talented teams with big running games.

    We shall see.
    __________________________________

    Havent they been doing that already? The Jets are 6 in the NFL in rushing, and Pittsburgh is 10 in the league. They didnt seem to have a problem with those teams…. The easiest way to stop the other team from running the ball, is to go on long drives resulting in TD’s. The Pats do that very well. When you are down 14+ points, you dont run it as often. I dont think stopping the run is going to be a big factor for NE in the post season
    *******************************************************
    Yes, in the regular season, in mostly decent weather.

    Without a doubt, long ball control drives are helping that young defense out big time.

    What happens to them when the when the offense isn’t clicking though?

    I’m not saying they can’t go all the way, crowning them right now though would be a mistake.

  51. mccourtyisland says: Dec 15, 2010 9:36 AM

    Embrace the new dynasty pats haters.

    Most of you wouldn’t know a dynasty if it slapped you accross your face. Of course you are bitter.

    Be happy that you are now witnessing the greatest QB of all time. Seeing Tom Brady play will be one of the greatest privliges of your lives.

  52. grpatriot says: Dec 15, 2010 9:37 AM

    Karma………The only fitting end would be to destroy the Giants in the SuperBowl in Dallas!!!
    No way Eli gets away from this defense….

  53. benjaminbreeg11 says: Dec 15, 2010 9:48 AM

    dirtdawg55 says:
    Dec 15, 2010 7:12 AM
    Pats deserve a lot of attention right now as they are clearly the class of the league. But champions don’t get anointed in training camp or Week 14. There will be only one and there is no guarantee the Pats will be it. That defense is still vulnerable and bitter tastes from wasted past opportunities guarantee nothing other than the taste lingers there forever.

    If the bitter taste of defeat was enough to win Super Bowls the Cowboys would have won another in recent years, the Titans would have come back to win one and even the Bengals might have a case.

    Besides Pats fans, how does Kraft get a let for saying pretty much the same thing as Rex Ryan, albeit a little less profanely, obscenely and often (and less fat for that matter)? The Pats have won nothing yet. They look good now, but that counts for nothing as all of you are painfully aware.

    ————————————————
    The only reason Kraft get away with it is he does say it with less arrogance but most importantly, he’s the owner, not the coach. I think that makes a difference. He’s essentially just a fan that owns the team.

    Your right, what the Patriots have done up to know means nothing. Rex was proclaiming the JETS superbowls bound in training camp. It’s his right and it’s entertaining, but for any seasoned fan, never mind a coach, it seems a really stupid thing to do. And that’s how Rex comes accross to most people. As just another loudmouth.

  54. pukey60 says: Dec 15, 2010 9:56 AM

    Speaking of Karma – how great would it be to have a rematch w the GMen? You know BB would love that, even thought its “just one more game.” Rumor has it that he still hates the kid in high school who stole the milk off his tray…….

  55. soaringelvis says: Dec 15, 2010 10:06 AM

    Hey, all you cheater believers out there, guess what…you’re all correct. The Pats are cheating. I know, and I’ll tell you how. It simple, one word…”Belichick.” What he brings to the game truly isn’t fair for the likes of the Ryans, Shanahans, and McCarthys.

    He’s like having a post grad Harvard student sitting across from a fifth grade debate team. All the other 31 teams continue to bring a knife to a gun fight. The Patriot locker room is like a Mensa meeting.

    Having 10% of the first 33 picks in next year’s draft…yep, you guessed it…cheating. Like taking candy from babies, one pick at a time.

    And, oh, by the way, the ball on top of Tyree’s helmet, it hit the ground. Yes, Karma is coming around – hide the kids.

  56. richm2256 says: Dec 15, 2010 10:07 AM

    dirtdawg55 says:
    how does Kraft get a let for saying pretty much the same thing as Rex Ryan, albeit a little less profanely, obscenely and often (and less fat for that matter)?
    ————————————————-
    How about re-reading that article one more time, my friend? NOWHERE in it does Kraft mention the Super Bowl or a title of any kind. He talks only of the chemistry of this year’s team compared to last season, unlike Rex Ryan who went as far as painting “Super Bowl Champs” on the team bus and talking countless times this season about the Jets going to the Super Bowl.

    I swear, you haters don’t even bother to know what you’re talking about, you hear the name “Patriots” and you automatically spew hatred.

    “The Pats have won nothing yet. They look good now, but that counts for nothing as all of you are painfully aware.”

    100% correct, which is why a real Patriots fan doesn’t come on here saying “New England is gonna KILL the (insert the opnent of the week)”.

    No, Patriots fans have learned to do their talking AFTER the game. When you think they’re unbeatable, along come the ’07 Giants or the ’10 Browns to bring you back to earth. That’s what I don’t get about you haters; the Patriots are actually one of the most humble teams in the NFL! They rarely trash talk even the biggest a-hole teams, they offer nothing but respect for even the worst team’s record and abilities. Then they quietly go out and play the best damn football that they can.

    How can anybody hate a team like that? Hell, if the Jets were like that, I’d even like THEM. No one likes a loudmouth team with a loudmouth coach, neither of whom can back up all that trash talk on the field.

  57. ninjapleazee says: Dec 15, 2010 10:20 AM

    dynasty is when you actually win the superbowl… what happened to the Jets hype?

  58. grogansheroes says: Dec 15, 2010 10:22 AM

    1historian,

    Stop trying to reason with opposing fans, it is a waste of time, as their jealousy does not allow them to comprehend.

  59. steelersmichele says: Dec 15, 2010 10:23 AM

    I’ll tell you what I see, a owner/coach/QB that somehow made a pact with the devil to play well. Because in all honesty, that’s what I have to keep telling myself when I watch them play. That somehow, Tom Brady keeps having sons because his first daughter is the sacrifice.

  60. theandy59 says: Dec 15, 2010 10:45 AM

    Can you only imagine the comments we’d be hearing from Rex Ryan if the Jets were 11-2 and coming off a convincing blow-out of the Pats and Bears? I shudder to think. As for the Patriots, we hear Brady say how, “We haven’t accomplished anything yet…we don’t have it all figured out…we’ve had defenses push us around a bit so we have a lot of work to do…” Why do you people hate this team?

  61. bostonbias says: Dec 15, 2010 10:57 AM

    In our view, the Patriots have managed to assemble on offense a collection of unselfish players who don’t lobby for the ball, but who trust Tom Brady to deliver the pig to whoever is open.

    At least other sites try to be objective. It is clear who the favorite team is here at this site. I have been reading the post here for some time. There is clear bias in the how the “journalists” post here.

  62. slutnuts says: Dec 15, 2010 11:01 AM

    @theandy59… people hate this team because they are division rivals (me), or because their fans induce that feeling (me), or because of jealousy(me)…but to pretend they arent the best football team is impossible, and because of that you have to respect them.

  63. steelersmichele says: Dec 15, 2010 11:10 AM

    theandy59 says: Why do you people hate this team?

    Because they win. People don’t mind if someone wins, but as soon as they start winning “too much” then opinions change and the team is hateable.

    People know the Patriots are good and it kills them to admit it, so it’s easier to hate them. I will admit I say I hate the Patriots all the time. The reason is they beat my team a lot–the exact opposite reason why I don’t say I hate the Browns (but then again, if McCoy proves to be the real deal, I may start hating them again).

  64. kate773 says: Dec 15, 2010 11:24 AM

    bostonbias says:
    Dec 15, 2010 10:57 AM
    In our view, the Patriots have managed to assemble on offense a collection of unselfish players who don’t lobby for the ball, but who trust Tom Brady to deliver the pig to whoever is open.

    At least other sites try to be objective. It is clear who the favorite team is here at this site. I have been reading the post here for some time. There is clear bias in the how the “journalists” post here.

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    I can’t stand people who come on here and whine about this site playing “favorites” every time a positive article is written about a certain team, or that this site clearly “hates” his/her favorite team because of a (probably deserved) negative article about them. Newsflash, the writers here don’t give a crap about your team, positive or negative. Any reading into this stuff about vendettas against your team or playing favorites with another is simply you reading what you want to read.

  65. originalsteelcurtain says: Dec 15, 2010 11:41 AM

    *Pats are hitting on all cylinders…but can take their foot off the gas in a couple of weeks when they clinch #1 playoff seed. A bye will follow.

    Don’t assume they will play at the same level in the playoffs, or that teams like Baltimore and Pittsburgh will be easy outs.

    If they make the SB, they may face a dome-friendly team like NO or Atl in the Jerry Dome.

    Don’t gloat early *Pats fans, because you haven’t won anything yet.

  66. ytsejamer1 says: Dec 15, 2010 1:01 PM

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    3octaveFart says: Dec 15, 2010 9:28 AM

    Losing to the Giants in SB XLII, now that was karma.
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    That sir, is the truth… 2007 thoughts still make me almost sick. Blech…the taste is still not gone nor will it ever be most likely. 19-0 will likely never happen, let alone just the opportunity! I say the football gods dished it back to BB in the most painful way. And it was deserved unfortunately.

    But yeah, they haven’t done anything yet…they haven’t even had a hat-and-tshirt game yet. However…this year has shown me that they can hang with the best. The last couple of years and even back to 2007…they didn’t really beat any great teams. Colts were probably the best they played in 2007 and the AFC playoffs were a cakewalk compared to 2001, 2003, and 2004. They didn’t get into the playoffs in 2008 because they couldn’t beat any good teams. 2009 was the same way…and the defense was just awful as was its coaching.

    This 2010 schedule has been brutal and they’ve handled it to perfection. It means nothing and I think they will draw on the lesson of 2007…even when you’re perfect going into the last game, it means squat until that final buzzer goes off and you’re up by 1 point.

  67. 3octaveFart says: Dec 15, 2010 1:04 PM

    #theandy59 says: Dec 15, 2010 10:45 AM

    “Why do you people hate this team?”

    Oh geez… where to begin?

    Let’s go back to the year of Spygate…

    For starters they cheated, got caught red-handed, then didn’t apologize. Anytime Belicheat was asked about it, he issued his standard “Eff you, so what?”

    All season long they ran the score up on everybody they could, going for it on 4th down with 2 minutes to go, while already being ahead by three scores.

    Then they played all their starters in the final “meaningless” game, because you know, going undefeated “meant nothing” to them. /Smirk

    Then they scheduled their victory parade and started taking orders on 19-0 shirts and books before the Super Bowl was even played. During that game, all they did was run their mouths, telling the Giants to “go home”, then invited them to THEIR victory parties.

    And then their was the fans’ “online petition” demanding to have the game replayed after they lost.
    Hmmm.. can’t IMAGINE why everyone thinks they’re such complete dirtbags.
    What a joke.

  68. semperfi24 says: Dec 15, 2010 2:01 PM

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    3octaveFart says: Dec 15, 2010 1:04 PM

    #theandy59 says: Dec 15, 2010 10:45 AM

    “Why do you people hate this team?”

    Oh geez… where to begin?

    Let’s go back to the year of Spygate…

    For starters they cheated, got caught red-handed, then didn’t apologize. Anytime Belicheat was asked about it, he issued his standard “Eff you, so what?”

    All season long they ran the score up on everybody they could, going for it on 4th down with 2 minutes to go, while already being ahead by three scores.

    Then they played all their starters in the final “meaningless” game, because you know, going undefeated “meant nothing” to them. /Smirk

    Then they scheduled their victory parade and started taking orders on 19-0 shirts and books before the Super Bowl was even played. During that game, all they did was run their mouths, telling the Giants to “go home”, then invited them to THEIR victory parties.

    And then their was the fans’ “online petition” demanding to have the game replayed after they lost.
    Hmmm.. can’t IMAGINE why everyone thinks they’re such complete dirtbags.
    What a joke.
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    Where do you people come up with this stuff, its is hysterical. I dont remember any online petition to have the game replayed, lol

    What team doesnt talk smack on the playing field, inviting your opponent to the victory party is funny, there are things alot worse than that said on the field, if you think that is awful, you are a fool.

    As far as the 19-0 stuff is concerned, that was a smart business move by Robert Kraft. If he hadnt applied for the rights to all of that stuff with the patent office, anybody else in America could have patented those rights, and then sold them to Kraft for a fortune. That wasnt arrogance, that was financially responsible.

    Also, atleast they had the balls to try to go undefeated, not like those puzzies in Indy….they came up short, that is the way the cookie crumbles, but you cant go undefeated if you dont try, atleast they tried, if you cant respect that, you probably cheer for mediocrity

  69. 3octaveFart says: Dec 15, 2010 2:54 PM

    semperfi24 says: Dec 15, 2010 2:01 PM

    “Where do you people come up with this stuff, its is hysterical. I dont remember any online petition to have the game replayed, lol”

    The Patriots Petition: Greatest Hits

    To this day, my favorite “petition” post:

    Boston Globe
    Boston police today reported finding a body in the Charles River. The victim apparently drowned due to excessive alcohol consumption. He was described as wearing black fishnet stockings, a red garter belt, a pink wig, a strap-on dildo, a Patriot’s jersey, and had a cucumber stuffed up his butt. The police graciously removed the Patriot’s jersey to spare the family unnecessary embarrassment.

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